I'm so excited that Penelope and Colin's romance is taking centre stage this season. Nicola and Luke have the best chemistry, and you can tell that they really like and respect each other in real life. ❤
Same lol but it also happened to fall on a day that I needed recovery from the night before but like...the universe works in mysterious ways cause I Would've taken the day off nonetheless.
I loved that so much! She didn't cried or got angry, but handled the situation with such grace and confidence. Its a shame showrunners made her so different from the books. I kinda dislike mamy actions of Penelope in the show
I do really wish that they had stayed somewhat close to the book's timeline as Penelope was much older and many of her decisions in the book were based on her situation of being much older and having an unrequited love for Colin. Some following character motivations were also partially inspired by Benedict's love story, so it's a bit sad to miss some of these things.
this is the first book series that I've read before the shows!! Excited to see how its going to play out. I hope the show has its own charm and is able to keep up with the amazingness of the book!! :D
I think to the end of Season 3, we're gonna see the ball where Benedict meets Sophie, and obviously, we're gonna have to wait with him for their story to be unmasked.
1:40 Actually no, in the story’s Regency setting Penelope’s proclamation is not ridiculous at all - aristocratic girls back then started looking for a husband and got married at 17-18 years old, so a girl who was still unmarried at 22-23y.o. (meaning 5-6 years after her debut into society) was absolutely and very much considered a spinster and out of the (marriage) game….Penelope’s statement is really quite spot on. Most importantly her statement is absolutely 1000% historically accurate; check any *_*non-fiction*_* history book (and no, Jane Austen's novels are not history books....they're romantic fiction, which means they’re not accurate despite having been written in the same era) and you'll see for yourselves -- why historians and history professors see most of today's historical romance novels as nothing but drivel. **In the regency (and victorian) age girls did get married before reaching **_20_** years old, at 21-22 they were already viewed as in “decline” and were unanimously considered spinsters by 23-24y.o. onwards. Debutantes were very much expected to find a suitor and get married within their first or second season, as the longer it took to find a match the lesser chances they had to actually find not just a **_worthy_** one (the primary and final goal) but one at all since every new season brought in a crowd of new younger and fresher girls.** If you think it sounds like a market, it’s because it was. The label “the marriage market” is not something invented by romance writers.
Friend, I suggest you need to read the Marriage Act of 1753. Again, most existing research (please, for the love of God, Google it) firmly shows that women in the era typically married between the ages of 22-27. That's in their mid-twenties, not their teens. People did not actually really want teenagers marrying for most of the same reasons they don't want them marrying today.
That's more Victorian than Regency. The age at which a girl was out in society (and if part of a certain class, partaking in the social season) varied between families. Some are out at 15 (like Lydia in P&P) but they were few and far between. It was considered too young and most younger sisters had to wait for their elder sisters to be married before they were allowed out in society. There's a difference between the class of people we see depicted in Bridgerton vs the landed gentry we see depicted in Jane Austen's books and so that's why her characters are a bit older before they're considered on the shelf (see Charlotte Lucas and Caroline Bingley). Of course, her novels are fiction but closer to the truth of the time than what we can get from works that are written in the present day.
@@s6r231 It’s both Regency and Victorian, but if in the Victorian era the marrying age got raised up a bit Regency was still a lot influenced by the previous century - when if parents so decided girls could have been married off as early as 14-15 years old.
@@s6r231 It's not, though - median age at first marriage actually dropped a bit in the Victorian era, and again in the 20th century. A quick Google will show that the median and mean age at first marriage in the regency era was in the mid twenties for women, and mid to late twenties for men. Austen wrote fiction, but the net result for most of her heroines was earlier than average marriage because of wealthy men - but even then, the only one of her main characters who definitively marries before age of majority is Lydia Bennet, who has to because she ran away with Wickham. In reality, even wealthy women seldom married before they reached their legal majority. If you want to hark to Austen for more similar examples to Bridgerton, look at the Elliots, and how Elizabeth is still presented as a perfectly marriageable women in her late 20s/early 30s. Also, please, please remember that the author of the Bridgerton novels does not accurately represent the period or the social class at all. They have very scant research, and many demonstrable inaccuracies. It's fine for the show to make up whatever it wants, it's not fine for us to take that as representation of actual period norms.
@@LucienSabre But they didn't. Please, just Google. Go to JSTOR. Use any academic archive you like, but there is a fair amount of information on median age at first marriage for both Regency and Victorian England, and pretty much nobody was marrying off their daughters before they attained legal majority at 21. Marrying off a 14 year old would have been an actual scandal.
I haven't watched Bridgerton since season 1. Just saw last episode, season 3. I am excited for Colin and Penelope romance and pending marriage!! I will be watching again.🤩
Its always been colin. And Penelope in the featherington house, oh and i knew ,Penelope was Mrs W,since the very beginning of Episode 1. Its all in the Name.
A lot of people here need to read the Clandestine Marriage Act of 1753 and 1836 before they go spouting off about average ages of marriage in the Regency and Victorian period. There's a lot of people here who are just flat-out wrong about median age of marriage in the era, and need to stop getting their historical knowledge from bodice rippers.
@@bukolaalale8260 these last two seasons we clearly knew that Pen was in love with him. It is not that part that annoys me. It is the Colin’s part that annoys me. It is rushed … overnight he liked her because he kissed her because she begged him to - not even because he wanted it from the start… common
The one thing I was very disappointed with romancing, Mr. Bridgerton. They didn’t mention anything of Penelope featherington musical talent in the show, but in the book it does. if any of us rate through the book, we are now Penelope featherington In the books can play the piano, wondering why Netflix decided not to go with having her knowing how to play the piano just wondering
In the context of the show, it seems 16 was earliest introduction though Daphne was introduced at 21 (and it is implioed her success is why Violet was fine with her other daughters going out earlier than Daphne).
Not at her age, the books had her almost 30 which back then and in the books was spinster age. It's only a couple years along with other girls still being single.
@Ashbrash1998 The youngest you could start marrying was usually as young as 13. If If you go from when Pen started she was 16. Let's not even go into fictional time passing. If she was 16 in SS1 in 2020. That means she is now 20-21. Kate was too old at 26. A daughter with 0 prospects and 2 married sisters was a spinster. And she wasn't even the youngest in the books. Felicity was younger and 'out' and had secured a suitor.
@@jameyst.peters4678 Except you couldn't start marrying as young as 13 - English law put age of majority at 21 during the Regency. Kate actually wasn't "too old" at 26, but merely a year or two older than the average bride for the period. A 22 year old with 2 married sisters was just . . . not yet married.
25 years old was already considered *an old maid* during that time frame, you the narrator should not be the ridiculous one if you only did your research properly
The book and the show weren't trying to be accurate. And the show already AGED UP the characters so it doesn't apply. An older lady sure bit not exactly spinster age yet.
Speak for yourself! I loved his book. (Of course, I read it years ago and hope the show updates it to take out some of the negative aspects of it) but I loved the Cinderella kind of story quality of it.
I was so enthusiastic about this season... Now I am just disappointed. The acting and writing are poor, and they leave some details from the book behind and Pen is approached as a drama queen. 😢
@bukolaalale8260 I did not expect the book to be approached in detail, but they ruined Penelope character. She is a strong character in the book and in the series it is too boring and predictable.
I'm so excited that Penelope and Colin's romance is taking centre stage this season. Nicola and Luke have the best chemistry, and you can tell that they really like and respect each other in real life. ❤
I admit, I took the 16th off from work to binge watch the fisrt 4 😅
Omg same!!! I CANT WAIT 😂
Same lol but it also happened to fall on a day that I needed recovery from the night before but like...the universe works in mysterious ways cause I Would've taken the day off nonetheless.
@@funkycrawler619 I hope ur recovery goes by fast
And rewatch 😂
@@NickyRose333 Thank you for this kind words
It now makes sense why Cressida got a spotlight in first four episodes of season 3. Excited for next 4 episodes, sounds like they’ll be fun!
In the book she calls him out when he says he will never marry her. “I never asked you to marry me.”
I loved that so much! She didn't cried or got angry, but handled the situation with such grace and confidence. Its a shame showrunners made her so different from the books. I kinda dislike mamy actions of Penelope in the show
I do really wish that they had stayed somewhat close to the book's timeline as Penelope was much older and many of her decisions in the book were based on her situation of being much older and having an unrequited love for Colin. Some following character motivations were also partially inspired by Benedict's love story, so it's a bit sad to miss some of these things.
Well, she has a different motivation now; insufferable sisters and mama
this is the first book series that I've read before the shows!! Excited to see how its going to play out. I hope the show has its own charm and is able to keep up with the amazingness of the book!! :D
I think to the end of Season 3, we're gonna see the ball where Benedict meets Sophie, and obviously, we're gonna have to wait with him for their story to be unmasked.
Hopefully, it'll only be a year, cuz they said they've already begun work on it
I think they're gonna do Fran's story next because they're already setting her up in this season.
Francesca was married for a while ( can't remember how long), before she her story with Michael.
Plus the writers also said they've begun writing season 4.
Francesca story will take a while. Marriage, sadness, then love
1:40 Actually no, in the story’s Regency setting Penelope’s proclamation is not ridiculous at all - aristocratic girls back then started looking for a husband and got married at 17-18 years old, so a girl who was still unmarried at 22-23y.o. (meaning 5-6 years after her debut into society) was absolutely and very much considered a spinster and out of the (marriage) game….Penelope’s statement is really quite spot on.
Most importantly her statement is absolutely 1000% historically accurate; check any *_*non-fiction*_* history book (and no, Jane Austen's novels are not history books....they're romantic fiction, which means they’re not accurate despite having been written in the same era) and you'll see for yourselves -- why historians and history professors see most of today's historical romance novels as nothing but drivel. **In the regency (and victorian) age girls did get married before reaching **_20_** years old, at 21-22 they were already viewed as in “decline” and were unanimously considered spinsters by 23-24y.o. onwards. Debutantes were very much expected to find a suitor and get married within their first or second season, as the longer it took to find a match the lesser chances they had to actually find not just a **_worthy_** one (the primary and final goal) but one at all since every new season brought in a crowd of new younger and fresher girls.** If you think it sounds like a market, it’s because it was. The label “the marriage market” is not something invented by romance writers.
Friend, I suggest you need to read the Marriage Act of 1753. Again, most existing research (please, for the love of God, Google it) firmly shows that women in the era typically married between the ages of 22-27. That's in their mid-twenties, not their teens. People did not actually really want teenagers marrying for most of the same reasons they don't want them marrying today.
That's more Victorian than Regency. The age at which a girl was out in society (and if part of a certain class, partaking in the social season) varied between families. Some are out at 15 (like Lydia in P&P) but they were few and far between. It was considered too young and most younger sisters had to wait for their elder sisters to be married before they were allowed out in society. There's a difference between the class of people we see depicted in Bridgerton vs the landed gentry we see depicted in Jane Austen's books and so that's why her characters are a bit older before they're considered on the shelf (see Charlotte Lucas and Caroline Bingley). Of course, her novels are fiction but closer to the truth of the time than what we can get from works that are written in the present day.
@@s6r231 It’s both Regency and Victorian, but if in the Victorian era the marrying age got raised up a bit Regency was still a lot influenced by the previous century - when if parents so decided girls could have been married off as early as 14-15 years old.
@@s6r231 It's not, though - median age at first marriage actually dropped a bit in the Victorian era, and again in the 20th century. A quick Google will show that the median and mean age at first marriage in the regency era was in the mid twenties for women, and mid to late twenties for men.
Austen wrote fiction, but the net result for most of her heroines was earlier than average marriage because of wealthy men - but even then, the only one of her main characters who definitively marries before age of majority is Lydia Bennet, who has to because she ran away with Wickham. In reality, even wealthy women seldom married before they reached their legal majority. If you want to hark to Austen for more similar examples to Bridgerton, look at the Elliots, and how Elizabeth is still presented as a perfectly marriageable women in her late 20s/early 30s.
Also, please, please remember that the author of the Bridgerton novels does not accurately represent the period or the social class at all. They have very scant research, and many demonstrable inaccuracies. It's fine for the show to make up whatever it wants, it's not fine for us to take that as representation of actual period norms.
@@LucienSabre But they didn't. Please, just Google. Go to JSTOR. Use any academic archive you like, but there is a fair amount of information on median age at first marriage for both Regency and Victorian England, and pretty much nobody was marrying off their daughters before they attained legal majority at 21. Marrying off a 14 year old would have been an actual scandal.
Of course i agree. Happy tuesday afternoon, Kirsten. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well.
I love this post. Thank you! One correction is that Colin told his stupid friends he would never court, Penelope, not his brothers.
In the book, he tells his brothers.
I haven't watched Bridgerton since season 1. Just saw last episode, season 3. I am excited for Colin and Penelope romance and pending marriage!! I will be watching again.🤩
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Feels like they randomly chose clips from the show to insert between talking points. Countless clips make zero sense
I was up at 3:30am band binged the first half
Midnight in Seattle. 🎉
Didn't Penelope ask for the kiss after she read his journal and hurt his hand?????
Chapters later, yes
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YES YES YES PLEASE. Book 3❤
Its always been colin. And Penelope in the featherington house, oh and i knew ,Penelope was Mrs W,since the very beginning of Episode 1. Its all in the Name.
A lot of people here need to read the Clandestine Marriage Act of 1753 and 1836 before they go spouting off about average ages of marriage in the Regency and Victorian period. There's a lot of people here who are just flat-out wrong about median age of marriage in the era, and need to stop getting their historical knowledge from bodice rippers.
I sure hope that Penelope will not be Lady Whistleton and start a new life with Colin and being away from her family
Would the show be better if Eloise was lady whistledown ? Maybe she will take over from Penelope
Love them all
I think they should have waited next season to let their story flourish, this season seems rushed because the romance is like appearing overnight…
Its not overnight. It's 2 seasons in the making. Plus when friends get together, it's pretty fast coz all the courtship part won't matter
@@bukolaalale8260 these last two seasons we clearly knew that Pen was in love with him. It is not that part that annoys me. It is the Colin’s part that annoys me. It is rushed … overnight he liked her because he kissed her because she begged him to - not even because he wanted it from the start… common
@@ilhame7638 true and they infact were trying to cover four stories making it so clumsy for four episodes
The one thing I was very disappointed with romancing, Mr. Bridgerton. They didn’t mention anything of Penelope featherington musical talent in the show, but in the book it does.
if any of us rate through the book, we are now Penelope featherington In the books can play the piano, wondering why Netflix decided not to go with having her knowing how to play the piano just wondering
You forget. You could get married much younger then. She is considered old for a wife
In the context of the show, it seems 16 was earliest introduction though Daphne was introduced at 21 (and it is implioed her success is why Violet was fine with her other daughters going out earlier than Daphne).
Not at her age, the books had her almost 30 which back then and in the books was spinster age. It's only a couple years along with other girls still being single.
@Ashbrash1998 The youngest you could start marrying was usually as young as 13. If If you go from when Pen started she was 16. Let's not even go into fictional time passing. If she was 16 in SS1 in 2020. That means she is now 20-21. Kate was too old at 26. A daughter with 0 prospects and 2 married sisters was a spinster. And she wasn't even the youngest in the books. Felicity was younger and 'out' and had secured a suitor.
@@jameyst.peters4678 Except you couldn't start marrying as young as 13 - English law put age of majority at 21 during the Regency. Kate actually wasn't "too old" at 26, but merely a year or two older than the average bride for the period. A 22 year old with 2 married sisters was just . . . not yet married.
25 years old was already considered *an old maid* during that time frame, you the narrator should not be the ridiculous one if you only did your research properly
The book and the show weren't trying to be accurate. And the show already AGED UP the characters so it doesn't apply. An older lady sure bit not exactly spinster age yet.
@@Ashbrash1998 well from where I am, up until the latter 20th century 25 was already considered past its prime
25 years was actually about the median age of marriage during Regency England, so no - not even close to an old maid.
I need to correct you on something. A Spencer is anybody that's out for more than 3 years that was her third season That's what made her a Spencer
Was Lord Debling a tv show thing?
I've never saw this series
You have 12 hours go now 🤏
cant wait :D
Saying Cressida, but meaning Marina?
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I am a Ms. Mojo fan, but I am disappointed how out of sync the audio is with the video. As storytelling goes, it is disingenuous.
Is Penelope the oldest ?
In the show, she’s the youngest, with two older sisters. In the books, she’s the third of four sisters.
ngl im mad as hell that they split it into two parts. it's so inconvenient
i couldn’t care less about benedict. the only two interesting characters are penelope and eloise.
Speak for yourself! I loved his book. (Of course, I read it years ago and hope the show updates it to take out some of the negative aspects of it) but I loved the Cinderella kind of story quality of it.
Benedict story is great. The guy who seems to like unconventional ladies
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I was so enthusiastic about this season... Now I am just disappointed. The acting and writing are poor, and they leave some details from the book behind and Pen is approached as a drama queen. 😢
Don't expect complete book to screen. Just enjoy them both differently
@bukolaalale8260 I did not expect the book to be approached in detail, but they ruined Penelope character. She is a strong character in the book and in the series it is too boring and predictable.
For the last fucking time Can you do a video of unsold live action animated tv pilots please don’t banned me
No lol. You're very demanding and rude for someone with more forehead than children.
They lack chemistry. It is so forced. Nicola is not as arr3sting as the first and second leading ladies.
oh they absolutely have chemistry. i just think the first 4 episodes of season 3 focused too much on other storylines instead of Polin.
Chemistry is there