5th Gen idols are waaaay more concerned about brand than they are about art and music. I'm just thankful for the veteran Kpop Idols still making music. Without them I think I would checkout entirely. Kpop is big because they made waves in the MUSIC industry.
Facts, kpop is becoming a joke these days coz it's all about signing brand's deal's, going to fashion shows than actually making real music, it's like the agencies especially hybe low key train models so they debut them as kpop idols to get noticed by the public coz there's no way this magnetic song fall under the category of musicians
@@crazylittlebigthings You can still be a millennial and be born on 1995. It’s more on the era they debuted and not the timing of their debut. They debuted late, but they are still considered 4th gen cause of when they debuted.
I doubt that. When the show started Wonhee was one of the worst contestants, she was street casted and had only like 1-2 months of training. She pulled a izone minju/niziu ayaka card(ridiculous growth rate through the show), there’s no way they predicted it.
Your jealousy is showing😂😂. Their song is doing very well and their performance videos are also doing well. If Hybe had the power to make their every group successful wheres &team , fromis 9?
@@VeryTired-c7b babe, this isn't jealousy. debut songs usually don't do very well if we aren't talking about the big three. hybe has a huge influence in kpop so it's pretty obvious why illit debuted so successfully. groups under other companies usually don't do very well on their debut, simply because they're unknown. gotta take time for them to go viral
Making international fans unable to vote reminds me of Produce 101. Samuel was always top 10 until they took away international voting which highly impacted his votes
@@leot1864fr they be trying to exploit minors at the same time sexualize them its not like 2nd gen wasn't like this but its not something that is supposed to ve normalised nowadays the music is more likely sounds like it is mad3 for for tiktok purpose only with cringe worthy lyrics that doesn't even make sense
@@leot1864 lowkey I hope 5th gen music industry won't be just sped up trending tiktok songs vibe. I actually originally want the old k-pop back. And that is why Babymonster is the only kpop 5th gen group I've stanned so far because their music and concept is very much a 3rd gen music. Really tired of hearing soft and y2k concept.
@@8luvbug pls there are one of the best male vocalists in bts, twice is very spable at vocals, i mean did you hear jihyo singing? and rosé is very good to from bp, jisoo's low voice is also mestermineded
@@fangirltalent5402 it's really boring to me. I don't like baby monsters music either but at the very least the music videos are really entertaining. Magnetic was a boring song and boring music video
I will never understand the Hype for this group??? They seem lacking.... Their song Magnetic is actually quite a bop, but is it worth a win? Probably not as of now, since they have a lot of room for improvements especially the live vocals man 😭😭 So many rookie group who debuted around the same time as them that showed exceptional talents in both singing and dancing, yet they never won anything.. the votes are rigged.
@Heyitsgeorgiaxs I never said anything that it's fine? And you're the only one who assumed it is. In fact when it's always the big4's artist being chosen to win has always been rigged because the company are well-known, so their artists gets to win almost all the time because they have a lot of fan-bases that has already been established among their artist. Nugu company doesn't win awards besides being nominated, since they are new. Hybe's BTS didn't exactly paved the way for Kpop, but you should thank 2nd Gen Artists from different companies cuz they were the FIRST ones who actually introduced kpop to the world. BTS were the only one who made it so popular. Before you start to read this and think it's toxic, it's not because it's the truth. I used to be a BTS fan myself until I stopped and decided to stay as a casual listener.
@jaechuu9147 At least they sing live. I think as K pop fans, we are hypocrites. For example, Lisa lip synced her Vma performance, and she doesn't face any backlash. Then I saw some of SM entertainment groups lip syncing and again no backlash. For me as long as someone is trying, it's okay. It's better than faking it.
@@Chenbingqing what you mean flop? Attention and Hype Boy at number 1 in the charts, Ditto SOTY? NewJeans Album of the Year and Artist of the Year and you call that flop? Lol
Kpop is a business, an industry to make money. Every single thing these companies do is to make profit. Doing these types of survival shows makes them win money and brings popularity to the group they make.
I wasn't captivated by this group. I knew nothing about their survival show or any of the controversy surrounding it. I saw Magnetic in my recommended for a few days before I finally decided to check it out. Their concept or debut song didn't stand out to me like other groups have in the past, and they reminded me too much of NewJeans. It's possible that I've just outgrown kpop at this point, because none of the 5th gen groups have stood out to me so far and it feels like there's just so many of them debuting now that it's hard to keep up lol. If ILLIT becomes successful though, good for them.
"For some reason" buddy they're both under hybe and hybe is just cashing in on the y2k concept new jeans have. Hybe doesn't care about creating art they care about their brand and making money
bsh was directly working on illit... It seems to be a cheap way to get success by copying the most successful gg they have. C***blocking newjeans potential future concept. they want nj to fail. why bring in a copycat group and sabotaging nj.
I’ll it is perfect for their concept honestly. Wonhee,Moka,Minju and Iroha are perfect. I think Yunah could fit a mature concept more. But still she slays
im disappointed for iroha too bc whilst she’s amazing in the lineup, she suits a mature/ hip hop concept so much more. shes probably the best female dancer at hybe but you can’t really tell from her performances bc the illit choreo has to be fairly easy for the other members
@@MassiveGamingBeastI think its become normal for girl groups to first debut with an innocent concept since the members are still young and later on switch to a more mature concept.
@@MassiveGamingBeastI disagree, magnetic's choreo is actually very complex. High energy, dynamic precise movements. you are still able to tell iroha is definitely the best dancer there
meanwhile, I just watched some girls who also came from a survival show, and who are just in their mid teens slaying vocals but not getting enough attention.
@@aanneliise ruclips.net/video/KDGrH5Z2CmI/видео.htmlsi=nlEk-CgAmwQWaMOv 1st girl has been in King of the Masked Singer. The 2nd is the overall top 1 on the survival show with great vocals
I didn't watch the survival show. I really enjoyed the song, but I feel like if a smaller company had released that song it wouldn't have gotten popular at all. Survival shows seem like just a popularity drive for PR. Things turn out better when the members fit their concept, complement eachother and get on well with eachother -- rather than being chosen eclecticly through popularity voting
Gotta be honest it's like this for every group. If they release a song from a smaller company of course they gonna be less popular than from the big3 (+hybe) company.
Definitely another performance based group. Will heavily rely on releasing generic pop song that is targeted for tiktok just to be famous like any other hybe groups.
Preach harder!! Like new jeans txt lsfm!! Just using easy listening music and overuse TikTok trying to become trend. I swear all these Hybe groups give it a couple of year will be forgettable because of this trend songs, that will not be trendy anymore
@@sumisum2813In my personal opinion, while txt does make TikTok’s with their songs (like every other group does nowadays) I don’t think that they making their music to cater towards that. They explore several different genres each comeback and show beautiful stories throughout their music and mvs. Every group has to consider if their song with be popular/marketable or not because that’s how they will actually make money. But I don’t think that txt is doing it to a large extent, the artistic elements still clearly shine through. Idk that’s just my opinion though ㅠ.ㅠ
At the end if the day these are just girls who are trying to live their dreams and present to us something special. I can't blame them for what the company may be doing but I will root for them as all the members seem genuinely sweet and pure hearted and definitely talented
Good luck to them, sure they have the potential and talent but the kpop industry is saturated with too many of the same type of girl bands, it's hard for them to break through and stand out and offer something different
@bellearena000no one wants a song made only for the sake of virality. Their music is literally so generic withsuch empty repetitive chorus paired with another tiktok based choreography.
MNET DELETED NCT DREAM'S SMOOTHIE STAGE PERFORMANCE VIDEO AND RE-UPLOADED IT CUZ APPARENTLY IT GOT MORE VIEWS THAN ILLIT'S MAGNETIC PERFORMANCE! NO HATE TO THE GIRLS BUT THIS IS LITERALLY CHART MANIPULATION AND SO UNFAIR
@@sabrinasabna8028bcz hype is manipulating everything just to make it seems like I'LLIT is a big thing they loosing in most music shows where there's BTS members bcuz they know army doesn't play around with it comes to sabotage they call u out if,we know hybe is paying their way
What are you talking about? KBS World channel from Music Bank has 1.4M views for the performance video of Magnetic and the only video to steamroll other performance videos. Just accept ILLIT's debut went viral.
@@hbrant went viral bcz hybe paid a lot of money for them wait and see how long they will last with payola music coz it gets to an end at some point when numbers don't match
The dance is difficult ask hybe to give them simple choreo to sing live. Cause they can sing is just that they aren't in a quoir but kpop group they move too much
ALL of nj records?? Bfr now 😂 nobody in the entirety of 4th gen and 5th gen comes close to nj achievements. Nj outdid every 4th gen groups in just less than 2 years in the industry 😂
I stan Iilit, but I understand why Youngeseo, Jiwoo and jeemin couldn't debut in it... Their aura is too badass my dream line up was Dopamine group(Youngeseo, IROHA, Minju, Jiwoo and jeemin) plus Yunah
@@usergodknowswhat I'm saying I understand why she left ... In all of R u Next she never participated or enjoyed "cute" concepts she would dominate and conquer Badass Girl Crush concepts...... But she would feel out of place or in "Cute"
@@knowlesknowles2154 i kinda agree with you. I personally have watched the show and in every memory of Youngseo's performances, I never seen her doing any cute or dreamy concepts, and she tend to stick to one style - badass or girl crush. she even confessed once on camera she find it hard to relate to either Aim High or Scrum near the finale. Youngseo is literally one of my best candidates for my ideal lineup of ILLIT but its true that she might not be able to fit into something she personally found hard to conform it even if she wishes to
You can be disagree with me , but being an army and knowing how hard bts got all of this , some time it makes me angry that this new groups make it this easy , its not only that they dont get a chance to feel the music and learn about its like that their just dolls , dancing, singing, posing..
You have to be a very miserable person to expect new groups to go through horrible things just because bts went through. And I say this as Army. Get BTS's name out of your mouth and stop using them to attack the new Hybe groups.
@reginamoura2239 I'm not saying they should experience harsh thing to grow up, im saying they need to explore music and experience song writing and producing (obviously through the time nor this rookie groups) and fail at making hits and try again and gain experience, what we see now it's idol have evey thing ready for them , good music , good dance ,...,like even bts wasn't perfect at start , a lot vocal line were trying to find their color and were taking vocal lessons and they got better ove the time , what I ment frome hard ship wasn't living in small dorm or not having money, infact since they have good sources they can put thir interest into music and be more than just idoles( im not talking about this group since they just started)
I don't know why they would just debut idols who can't sing properly even after a survival show with so many good contestants. We all know for sure that it was rigged and maybe it's just Hybe now. Debuting idols who can't sing live. look at YG, they did take a lot of time but the group is ripping apart the stage every performance and saving k-pop. They can sing good, dance and visuals and the performance is also amazing. I hope Hybe can change one day and debut idols who are capable of everything.
@@talkingtofu People like you couldn’t wait to criticize someone for something. YALL do this with every single group. Like leave her the fuck alone. She fits the concept and this is the DEBUT . There will be more concepts in the future that will adhere more to each member. Clearly this concept fits Moka the best. However to say she doesn’t fit is just inaccurate.
Nah truth hurts and i can see that you’re crying. Idgaf about kpop, i just saw their mv and share my initial thoughts. Visual wise, she just looks different from the group. I’m not saying she isn’t beautiful. Stay off the internet if you’re being this overdramatic over someone you don’t know
bet no one really thinks yunah is cuter than the other 4 members. She just looks older for her age and ya’ll know it. It’s not that hard to see. You have two eyes, use it.
their encore tho. 😭 At this point, I can only think that they're famous because they're overhyped for no reason. I felt bad for the few members that can actually sing being dragged along the hate.
I kind of left kpop when BTS went to the military. But ILLIT has brought me back. All 4 songs on their debut album are incredible. They're making the genre fun for me again. Good luck ILLIT!
This is why I don’t Stan some of 5th gen they aren’t even as talented but once they are pretty enough the companies seem to ignore the talent because they prefer popularity and beauty this sucks.
@@tenzinsii I can listen to whatever tf I want to I’m just saying they like beauty over talent idols don’t sound as good anymore just say you prefer untalented people
@@Pink_Serenade and babymonster aren’t that good to be so popular anyway there’s multiple idols they are being compared to and it makes no sense because none of them aren’t even on some idols level just because one song sounds good doesn’t mean they’ll impress people more in the future because i guess companies like debuting minors because most of 5th vocals changes every song.
Honestly this just happens to HYBE groups because I saw some comments generalizing 5th Gen but there are other promising 5th Gen groups who are also working hard on their own way like UNIS and Baby Monster. Buuuuut, before some come back biting at me because BM is from YG, atleast they have music output even before their official debut like pre-debut songs. ALSO, UNIS! I swear I only believe in talents guys UNIS and BM are the groups that I really look forward to in 5th gen.
Im happy that there's nothing like this in Universe Ticket. Unis members are all from fan voting. except by the 2 members that have promoted because of their skill and pick by the judges. ❤
So many people on Twitter and my friends tweeted things like "Pre-debut ILLIT stan here!" or "PRE-DEBUT ILLIT STANS ASSEMBLE!!". I just want to state my opinion. I did not care when ILLIT was announced because the moment I saw the words "new girl group" and "survival show" I left. Every kpop fan should now that survival shows have to have SOME sort of rigging in it, and it all depends on how good they cover it up. This video only proves my point. I'm not saying their is rigging when companies alone choose but generally it's between 2 parties, not multiple.
Hybe just copying newjeans but the harsh truth is this is just ruining the kpop industry cause kpop is known for their stages and performances but because of their fresh vibes the awards shows , concerts are going to be abandoned cause fresh vibes on stages its an absurd relation so , please try to understand the difference between listening songs and stage songs.
Wdym by hybe is just copying new jeans?New jeans have a Y2K concept while illit have a dreamy/supernatural concept.I get it,their music sounds familiar,but ITS NOT THE SAME.Even if they did have have Y2K concept doesn’t mean their copying new jeans.Ok k-pop songs are not meant to be listened to and are jut for stage performances?Lol no.Songs may not look good on stage because of the choreography or music,but how does that have to do with anything ?If you don’t like their music or choreography,then fine no one ‘s forcing you to.But don’t try to hate on their concept or music,it’s quite dumb🙄🙄
Is there any single group from Hybe who can sing properly. Watching their encore, I felt like I can be an idol also without any vocal training. They were literally screaming in the name of singing
Yes, there are. Enhypen, txt, nwjs, svt and bts for me. Their raw vocals are pretty good. And then there are groups such as ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM except Minju and Yunjin respectively that REALLY need to work on their vocals :)
I’m not even a hater or anything good on the girls … but Magnetic literally sounds like a NJ song and their style is very similar to NJ, that part is not wrong 🤣
When I saw ILLIT's debut song 'Magnetic', I was so shocked. I had to double check if it was their debut. They've released such a good song with such good choreography. I really enjoyed the song, it was so upbeat. It reminded me of NewJeans but that's not a bad thing, it means they have a lot of potential to grow like NewJeans did! ILLIT's members are so talented and pretty. I am excited to see more of their songs just by their debut. The future of K-pop for me. 😊
You are Getting ahead of yourself. Win daesang in first year first before you declare that they are furture of kpop. Newjeans is still around you know. They are the top at the moment.
Sorry but the song is for kids, they targeted a trendy TikTok instead of showcasing their talent they let The song do Their jobs for them and another thing they can't dance that's why already they are dragging them that they can't dance,
Though my family are big fans of BTS, LE SSERAFIM and ENHYPEN (all Hybe artist). We are gearing more to F&F's UNIS because we see & feel the humbleness of BTS on that group that we don't see & feel in illit.
@@ratangarg3821 I get you, it's blah for you because it's real music with meaningful lyrics. Nowadays a lot of songs are just carried by catchy beats & catchy chorus & following the style of New Jeans. Unis on the other hand are focused on substance in music & character all the members are just interestingly different.
@@ratangarg3821 +Superwoman+ is bout expressing d strong will they have to survive UT & setting example 4 d fans. With lyrics like I got power, not a follower Means they want to be different. +Whatchu need+ is bout confidence. That even though they are signed by a new & small entertainment company they got what it takes to complete. +Dopamine+ Means a gift to the fans. Reward of memory, movement, motivation, mood, attention and more. +Butterfly's dream+ you what they say about Young love. It's special thing that last for a lifetime. +Dream of girls+ beautiful lyrics, means being Hopeful & maturity. & that is why i appreciate Unis more than others.
@@ratangarg3821 Superwoman: Is bout expressing the strong will in achieving dreams & setting example to the young fans. With lyrics like I got power, not a follower means they want to be different. Whatchu need: Is about confidence. That even though they are signed by a new & small entertainment company they got what it takes to complete. Dopamine: A gift to the fans. Reward of memory, movement, motivation, mood, attention and more. Butterfly's dream: You know what they say about Young love. It's special. Something that last for a lifetime. Dream of girls: Beautiful lyrics, means hope & maturity.
Calling these girls the future of kpop is only doing harm to the ACTUAL future of kpop (TXT, SKZ, ENHYPEN, BAEMON, KIOF, UNIS, NMIXX, ITZY, AESPA, TWS, etc..) They're 4-5 gen but still insanely talented. Also the future of kpop..sounds so similar..hmm (Isn't it enha's title?). HYBE earned money from first BTS then SVT, TXT and ENHYPEN and now they're burning it. They should focus on training their idols instead of debuting pretty girls with barely any skill. They have potential however the lineup could've been better
Their encore stage was a mess, if they're the future of kpop, then consider kpop dead. Can we get back to the time when kpop idols weren't just industry products but actually great singers, dancers and performers
The criticism was that they very obviously had a girl picked from the 1st episode to the last they wanted to debut. It didn't matter that there were better performers than her she got the most screen time. The original rules stated that votes were 50% Kvotes, 20% international votes, 30% producers votes. When their It girl wasn't making the cut, they moved her during the last episode to the top, changing the rules to get her in the lineup only allowing 2 girls through Kvotes, and 4 through producers votes, no vote for international voters. They wanted to have then debut as a global girl group but cut out the global voters when their girl was not popular with most of the Korean and international voters. It was totally rigged. The 2 most popular girls, with both Korean and international voters were eliminated the episode before the final made no sense.
Things were very rocky during their predebut days, but i hope people would give them a chance and realize their potential. Even though your faves didn't make it, these girls are still human and are only victims of thar rigged show. Nevertheless, they're still trainees who worked very hard and dreamed to be an idol for a long time. Let them prove to you that they are worthy of being chosen in the lineup (even though they already did with Magnetic). Let's all move on from the past and help pave the way for ILLIT's success as a group. Please give them a chance ❤️
YOU were wrong 💀Fans of hybe artists know this: Hybe has its problems but releasing good music is not one of them. Hybe groups will always have good music: BTS, SVT, TXT, Enhypen, Le Sserafim, NewJeans, TWS, Boynextdoor, ILLIT: all have good music every comeback… Hybe guarantees good music and ensuring members have a good relationship with each other
The only survival show where I wholeheartedly voted was R u next after I-land. The show was going well until they decided to rigged the voting system at the last episode and those who haven’t watched the show yet you guys should go and watch it from start then trust me you would also feel bad for those three amazing talented girls who should have deserved to debut rather than some girls from this group
It's not girls fault there ia a saying that's don't judge book by its cover and now hybe is the most successful company and biggest company so its really easy for rookie group to become barn ambassador its nit shocking I know it is so soon but hybe knows how to promote new groups and its best for them as long as company paid and treat them better that matter the most and yeah hybe artist never disappoint us I hope people's support them
If I'm not mistaken"ILLIT" also had a controversy about plagiarism, not the one that it sound like new jeans, but it's about the dance cover they do I guess, by using other artist dance steps and putting it on other song. Not sure though just correct me if I'm wrong
Now, hold on ILLIT isn’t the future of K-pop there are so many other groups to debut yet so we can’t call them The future of K-pop lol but their debut album is amazing 🤩
ENHYPEN title is future of kpop. But actually im a belift stan. I'm an youllit and an engenes so it's okay if they are called future of kpop too!! a girlgroup version cause boygroup version is enhypen. ILLIT AND ENHYPEN ARE SIBLINGS SO YEA
@@here_to_STAY_and what even an stay doing here?, shut ur mouth they're better than the Illit as you should know Mind Yourself and not write comments everywhere randomly to attack for nothing , stop being so mad Yeah illit are not Kpop Future & nwjns aren't, bm are not No one deserves. Abt enhypen it's their official title.🫡 Not kpopies calling a Svt member "kpop future" , calm down guys this is over
@@kkultteokkiewhy do you have to be so rude and aggressive? You can have an opinion, but just because someone’s a fan of a group that isn’t being talked about in the video doesn’t mean they can’t enjoy their music and content as well. You accused the person of randomly attacking, but that wasn’t even an attack, they were asking why the commentor was bringing up enhypen under an illit video; if anything, you are the one attacking someone randomly. As for the “future of kpop” thing, they’re all the future because the present affects the future. Not just one group represents Kpop because all artists are different. Do better.
I don’t follow kpop news lately because it’s stressing but I’m going to say not every group gets the success they have planned some flop while others succeed but at the end of the day everyone criticizes because no one has anything better to do
I think we're heading to the era where all we hear and see are about Tiktok challenges and music, brand deals, ambassador this and that. No more legit kpop.
Even though the current line up is the best for their concept. They wasted the other trainees time. They were more talented trainees that did not need to go through the psychological trauma of a survival show if the line up and concept was already figured. They didn't need that extra promotion they are from HYBE! So why not just debut them from the start without the show
not to sound defensive. there are benefits for the others to appear actually, because they get the chance to hone their skills further and nurture pre-debut fanbases, and its not a waste of time as what some people believe. for example, Bang Jeemin, who is eliminated from R U Next, is now going to take part in iland 2 and she already amassed a great following from her previous R U Next fans and the current iland 2 fans, and this will be beneficial for her to have some degree of support to help her debut, and probably the group in the long run. some of the eliminated trainees also, in their interviews, consider R U Next as a transit point for them to rediscover their new sides and enhance skills that they need to hone and improve.
@@imasuenrhema4825 it’s okay for you to have your opinions, and disagreements are bound to be present here and there. The thing is, there can also be people who took offence and might argue with you at some views you have even if you never meant to let this happen, and there are others who can beg to differ with you in a more respectable manner. I myself have gone through or witnessed such situations before here and there
But they didn't even sing in their debut song, The song was literally computer-generated and the chorus is what ????? Tun- tun tun tun tun tun......???
So, like blackpink, red velvet and twice, and got7, and icon, and nct members are the privileged ones cause they are debuted in big 3 back in the days? And are they overrating?
@@QWERTY-xj8feyou just see 5 asian girls doing a cute & light concept and think they're like newjeans that's a bit weird also none of their songs sound nothing like newjeans more like loona, fromis or tripleS
My final line up was -- Iroha Jeemin Yunah Minju Youngseo Jiwoo (Cz Chanelle jihyun jeongeun were already eliminated)! Yes i was quite disappointed with the line up but i wasn't harsh on them. I'm glad this happened - jeemin is in i-land 2 i hope she debut this time. And for the rest i hope to see them future. At the end of the day Everything happens for a reason. Lastly i followed immediately when ILL-IT 's Instagram Twitter were created but the followers were so less like K and after their debut the account on if reached 1 million after 2-3 days of their debut.. I'm happy for them and hope they will drop more great Music!!
For the rigging part, I thought that too cause everything looked so fishy. Same as the "Unis" group, like barely any of the girls had a real reaction, they seemed like they knew it already to me. But beside this, I really really like them (ILLIT), I love this Bubbly/Magical kinda vibe, also Moka looks like a Lolita everytime I see her, she is so cute. But beside the cuteness, each member since the show, grow up so much, I remember Wonhee being really bad with expressions, but now she is doing much much better, she improved a lot. I also love Minju voice, I don't know but it hits me kinda different, her tone is unique. Iroha is such a great dancer, I don't know if it is just me, but she is the Maknae, but looks the oldest to me, her vibe just hits different, and she is only 15! Plus she has this HipHop vibe that always gets me. (I love the HipHop vibe) And then Yunah, what everyone thinks or at least I think, should be the leader! She has that leader vibe to me.
The future!? 😭 They're literally newjeans 2.0 with mediocre vocals and nothing new to offer to the industry. The producers of the mini album did an extraordinary job though, so the credit should go to them 💞
Being mad at them for going to fashion week is like being mad Willow Smith is releasing music because her father helped with the spotlight 😅 A LOT of pop (western included) is rigged with unfair advantages. It’s just how it is. There’s plenty of talent and charisma out there, and a select few of people just get lucky. 🤷🏻 If you want to support more authentic organic roots, go look to independent local artists uploading to social media. Don’t expect it out of the Kpop group-producing machine, lol. With that said, I enjoy this group. They’re charming and I wish them the best.
5th Gen idols are waaaay more concerned about brand than they are about art and music. I'm just thankful for the veteran Kpop Idols still making music. Without them I think I would checkout entirely.
Kpop is big because they made waves in the MUSIC industry.
Try listening to Unis especially the b side. But i prefer their live oerformances since they usually sing live
Yes. Now days Kpop is becoming more visuals than their music style.
Why is kpop so quick to declare fifth gen? Newjeans is still around as 4th gen and it is not even their second year yet!
Facts, kpop is becoming a joke these days coz it's all about signing brand's deal's, going to fashion shows than actually making real music, it's like the agencies especially hybe low key train models so they debut them as kpop idols to get noticed by the public coz there's no way this magnetic song fall under the category of musicians
@@crazylittlebigthings You can still be a millennial and be born on 1995. It’s more on the era they debuted and not the timing of their debut. They debuted late, but they are still considered 4th gen cause of when they debuted.
Hybe probably just wanted to create some popularity by doing the whole “R u next” they probably already had selected all the members beforehand
No.
Fr , this can happen
I doubt that. When the show started Wonhee was one of the worst contestants, she was street casted and had only like 1-2 months of training.
She pulled a izone minju/niziu ayaka card(ridiculous growth rate through the show), there’s no way they predicted it.
@@Kororozinhouw probably for some members but most probably predicted since nothing seems to match up
that's every show ever
It's a fact that the only reason why illit are already popular is because they debuted under hybe.
truee like i have so many groups i think would succeed if they debuted in hybe
Your jealousy is showing😂😂. Their song is doing very well and their performance videos are also doing well. If Hybe had the power to make their every group successful wheres &team , fromis 9?
@@VeryTired-c7bwhy is that jealousy? Its a good point they mentioned.
@user-rr5ik8dn5j I'm not jealous. Hybe, just have luck with debuting successful and popular groups. The company is very well known.
@@VeryTired-c7b babe, this isn't jealousy. debut songs usually don't do very well if we aren't talking about the big three. hybe has a huge influence in kpop so it's pretty obvious why illit debuted so successfully. groups under other companies usually don't do very well on their debut, simply because they're unknown. gotta take time for them to go viral
I dont mind the company chosing the members, but they have to be clear about it
Just like JYP did with vcha
And JYP decided not to include a trainee of JYPE. He is fair and a looker for talent.
After Sixteen (literally 99% went on to debut in Itzy, Twice, solo and kiss of life), I like JYPE shows. Vcha was another ✨success✨
Making international fans unable to vote reminds me of Produce 101. Samuel was always top 10 until they took away international voting which highly impacted his votes
And the produce lineups were always excellent so maybe they were onto something.
Except no one actually likes Samuel
@@andedosithis.
@@urhypeboy You guys are obviously stans and are just hating. If he wasn't popular, he wouldn't have been so popular and made it so far.
@@andedosiThis. It’s like people who have made their living in the music industry know more about music and creating groups than stan Twitter. 😏
Bring back the BTS , blackpink, exo, got7, twice, red velvet , nct, seventeen era.
i'll go with twice..blackpink transitioned to fashion..not expecting too much...music from them...
@@JELPKNthey all working on solo and group albums as we speak sooo
Omg yessss 5th gen is a disaster
@@leot1864fr they be trying to exploit minors at the same time sexualize them its not like 2nd gen wasn't like this but its not something that is supposed to ve normalised nowadays the music is more likely sounds like it is mad3 for for tiktok purpose only with cringe worthy lyrics that doesn't even make sense
@@leot1864 lowkey I hope 5th gen music industry won't be just sped up trending tiktok songs vibe. I actually originally want the old k-pop back. And that is why Babymonster is the only kpop 5th gen group I've stanned so far because their music and concept is very much a 3rd gen music. Really tired of hearing soft and y2k concept.
Just watched their encore, good luck to Kpop if illit is its future 😂😂
if this is kpop's future, then we all gonna become deaf
@@corvus-- you mean teaser before nj do smtg big
I mean Kpop fans proved they didn't care about vocals when they made BTS, Twice, and Blackpink the top groups.
@@8luvbug pls there are one of the best male vocalists in bts, twice is very spable at vocals, i mean did you hear jihyo singing? and rosé is very good to from bp, jisoo's low voice is also mestermineded
@@kpop_euphoria_ All of those groups have average to below average vocalists
My god their vocals is 😭😭😭, is a big lie, except for the only one girl during encore.
After 5th gen finally becoming a thing I think I've officially outgrown it!
Also I'm sorry to say magnetic is polarizing. Some people like it but some people don't. It's not liked or loved by everyone.
@@user-jo3pt1pt4w Ikr there's nothing exciting in that song. Seventeen is the only reason I am still holding on to kpop lol
@@fangirltalent5402 it's really boring to me. I don't like baby monsters music either but at the very least the music videos are really entertaining. Magnetic was a boring song and boring music video
@@user-jo3pt1pt4wGlad i'm not the only one thinking this way. Stans are acting like it's some revolutionary sht but the song is so boring to me 😂
@@ayanobadass949 same here and I listened to the whole album and all of it was boring to me
I will never understand the Hype for this group??? They seem lacking.... Their song Magnetic is actually quite a bop, but is it worth a win? Probably not as of now, since they have a lot of room for improvements especially the live vocals man 😭😭
So many rookie group who debuted around the same time as them that showed exceptional talents in both singing and dancing, yet they never won anything.. the votes are rigged.
@Heyitsgeorgiaxs I never said anything that it's fine? And you're the only one who assumed it is. In fact when it's always the big4's artist being chosen to win has always been rigged because the company are well-known, so their artists gets to win almost all the time because they have a lot of fan-bases that has already been established among their artist.
Nugu company doesn't win awards besides being nominated, since they are new. Hybe's BTS didn't exactly paved the way for Kpop, but you should thank 2nd Gen Artists from different companies cuz they were the FIRST ones who actually introduced kpop to the world.
BTS were the only one who made it so popular. Before you start to read this and think it's toxic, it's not because it's the truth. I used to be a BTS fan myself until I stopped and decided to stay as a casual listener.
@jaechuu9147 At least they sing live. I think as K pop fans, we are hypocrites. For example, Lisa lip synced her Vma performance, and she doesn't face any backlash. Then I saw some of SM entertainment groups lip syncing and again no backlash. For me as long as someone is trying, it's okay. It's better than faking it.
Companys like Hybe doesnt look for talent Hybe is only interested in the looks of an idol
Bang si hyuk
Then what is NewJeans for you? One of the best girl groups from hybe when it comes to singing too.
@@MadaraxUchiha no there songs are floped
@@Chenbingqing what you mean flop? Attention and Hype Boy at number 1 in the charts, Ditto SOTY?
NewJeans Album of the Year and Artist of the Year and you call that flop? Lol
@@MadaraxUchiha hybe pay for them 🤢🤮
Why bother making survival shows at all? Just straight up make a group and that's it, is that so hard?
Because it works, it gives them hype. Watchers get invested and feel personally connected by debut time. $$$
bruh asking questions with obvious answers. all of these are business so it's all about the $$$
@@ImMichelle93 Yeah so those fans could feel special by saying "I've been stanning them before they debut"
Why bother watching and supporting it?
Kpop is a business, an industry to make money. Every single thing these companies do is to make profit. Doing these types of survival shows makes them win money and brings popularity to the group they make.
I wasn't captivated by this group. I knew nothing about their survival show or any of the controversy surrounding it. I saw Magnetic in my recommended for a few days before I finally decided to check it out. Their concept or debut song didn't stand out to me like other groups have in the past, and they reminded me too much of NewJeans.
It's possible that I've just outgrown kpop at this point, because none of the 5th gen groups have stood out to me so far and it feels like there's just so many of them debuting now that it's hard to keep up lol. If ILLIT becomes successful though, good for them.
Agree with you 😊
watch Babymonster's recent comback from YG Entertainment (Same company who made BlackPink)
i stan unis because all of them can sing live. and youngest member is just 12 years old. very talented
Maybe you can like UNIS. I always stan by talent and not just a pretty face , and ya the baby monster also.. not a fan but they're good.
They really are like a twin of NewJeans ... I also got confused coz they have similar vibes of Newjeans for some reasons
"For some reason" buddy they're both under hybe and hybe is just cashing in on the y2k concept new jeans have. Hybe doesn't care about creating art they care about their brand and making money
Hybe artist have the worst vocals out there. Hello Sakura!😂😂😂
@@sero.4296explain what you think y2k is
@@beepboop449 🤖
bsh was directly working on illit... It seems to be a cheap way to get success by copying the most successful gg they have. C***blocking newjeans potential future concept. they want nj to fail. why bring in a copycat group and sabotaging nj.
I’ll it is perfect for their concept honestly. Wonhee,Moka,Minju and Iroha are perfect. I think Yunah could fit a mature concept more. But still she slays
im disappointed for iroha too bc whilst she’s amazing in the lineup, she suits a mature/ hip hop concept so much more. shes probably the best female dancer at hybe but you can’t really tell from her performances bc the illit choreo has to be fairly easy for the other members
@@MassiveGamingBeastI think its become normal for girl groups to first debut with an innocent concept since the members are still young and later on switch to a more mature concept.
I agree with you.
@@MassiveGamingBeastI disagree, magnetic's choreo is actually very complex. High energy, dynamic precise movements. you are still able to tell iroha is definitely the best dancer there
@@MassiveGamingBeast I think Iroha can pull off mature and cute concepts
Without the company trying? What are you talking about lol, all of that was the company trying
People like you made ill-it name.
Y'all hate them so hard that now everyone is checking them out.
Jokes on you!
@@reginamoura2239yeah ikr, idk why is the hate on illit is so forced like tf did they do to y'all haters
You're a cry baby
meanwhile, I just watched some girls who also came from a survival show, and who are just in their mid teens slaying vocals but not getting enough attention.
who? would love to check them out
@@aanneliise ruclips.net/video/KDGrH5Z2CmI/видео.htmlsi=nlEk-CgAmwQWaMOv
1st girl has been in King of the Masked Singer. The 2nd is the overall top 1 on the survival show with great vocals
@@aanneliisei think he talking about UNIS
baemon?
Unis
I didn't watch the survival show. I really enjoyed the song, but I feel like if a smaller company had released that song it wouldn't have gotten popular at all.
Survival shows seem like just a popularity drive for PR. Things turn out better when the members fit their concept, complement eachother and get on well with eachother -- rather than being chosen eclecticly through popularity voting
It applies for all group under big companies.
Gotta be honest it's like this for every group. If they release a song from a smaller company of course they gonna be less popular than from the big3 (+hybe) company.
if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound?
Definitely another performance based group. Will heavily rely on releasing generic pop song that is targeted for tiktok just to be famous like any other hybe groups.
Preach harder!! Like new jeans txt lsfm!! Just using easy listening music and overuse TikTok trying to become trend. I swear all these Hybe groups give it a couple of year will be forgettable because of this trend songs, that will not be trendy anymore
Following their seniors!💀
@@sumisum2813Newjeans has good music
@@bunnygirlmantra it’s not that good
@@sumisum2813In my personal opinion, while txt does make TikTok’s with their songs (like every other group does nowadays) I don’t think that they making their music to cater towards that. They explore several different genres each comeback and show beautiful stories throughout their music and mvs. Every group has to consider if their song with be popular/marketable or not because that’s how they will actually make money. But I don’t think that txt is doing it to a large extent, the artistic elements still clearly shine through. Idk that’s just my opinion though ㅠ.ㅠ
5th generation groups that are actually underrated and have good music and talent are kiss of life, babymonster for me up till now
baemon are talented, but have good music?…
@@chaettosthey have good music ofcourse! Like that, monster. It has catchy vibes no boring 2YK
@@sumisum2813 sheesh was totally a vibe and didn’t make my ears feel like they were getting my grandmas toenails shoved up them!
They need to give baemon songs that don't sound like bp reject songs
out of Gen 5 GGs, only Kiss of Life and BabyMonster have the vocal and rap prowess.
At the end if the day these are just girls who are trying to live their dreams and present to us something special. I can't blame them for what the company may be doing but I will root for them as all the members seem genuinely sweet and pure hearted and definitely talented
This!
Good luck to them, sure they have the potential and talent but the kpop industry is saturated with too many of the same type of girl bands, it's hard for them to break through and stand out and offer something different
Frr that's what I am saying
who's who they all look the same...cant distinguish them 1 by 1 haha
Exactly this concept is now getting overused
so true, like just new jeans song
@bellearena000no one wants a song made only for the sake of virality. Their music is literally so generic withsuch empty repetitive chorus paired with another tiktok based choreography.
MNET DELETED NCT DREAM'S SMOOTHIE STAGE PERFORMANCE VIDEO AND RE-UPLOADED IT CUZ APPARENTLY IT GOT MORE VIEWS THAN ILLIT'S MAGNETIC PERFORMANCE! NO HATE TO THE GIRLS BUT THIS IS LITERALLY CHART MANIPULATION AND SO UNFAIR
Okay I need the names of who hurt Haechan pls & ty
Are you kidding other music shows like inkagayo music they are even not close the views illit has more this comeback nctdream flopped just accept
@@sabrinasabna8028bcz hype is manipulating everything just to make it seems like I'LLIT is a big thing they loosing in most music shows where there's BTS members bcuz they know army doesn't play around with it comes to sabotage they call u out if,we know hybe is paying their way
What are you talking about? KBS World channel from Music Bank has 1.4M views for the performance video of Magnetic and the only video to steamroll other performance videos. Just accept ILLIT's debut went viral.
@@hbrant went viral bcz hybe paid a lot of money for them wait and see how long they will last with payola music coz it gets to an end at some point when numbers don't match
illit & New Jeans can do Rock,paper,scissors or Flip a coin on who’s gonna CB, when they will just get the same songs! hahaha.
Help💀
Fr
True 😂
If this is the future of kpop then were doomed
Ikr ☠️
Someone’s mad baemon still hasn’t won a music show in 7 months 😏
@@HeHeeHeeheHe No lol
If you only know HYBE in kpop, then yes lol
If you only know HYBE in kpop, then yes lol
People now are more like company-biased. They supported groups who debuted from big companies. Talents and beautiful songs seems don't matter at all
Now? It has always been like that
So far most of their members are only lip singing. Defeats the purpose of doing live performance. Thats just dancers with recorded voices.
The dance is difficult ask hybe to give them simple choreo to sing live. Cause they can sing is just that they aren't in a quoir but kpop group they move too much
@@ni-kingtaehyunjkyoongs2758 they cant sing tho. even not moving at all
illit taking all of newjeans records show that hybe is fraudulent
They want them to be the next newjeans and I see they are succeeding.
ALL of nj records?? Bfr now 😂 nobody in the entirety of 4th gen and 5th gen comes close to nj achievements. Nj outdid every 4th gen groups in just less than 2 years in the industry 😂
Nope ..newjeans debut is still iconic to me
I stan Iilit, but I understand why Youngeseo, Jiwoo and jeemin couldn't debut in it... Their aura is too badass my dream line up was Dopamine group(Youngeseo, IROHA, Minju, Jiwoo and jeemin) plus Yunah
what are you talking about? youngseo was going to debut but she left
@@usergodknowswhat I'm saying I understand why she left ... In all of R u Next she never participated or enjoyed "cute" concepts she would dominate and conquer Badass Girl Crush concepts...... But she would feel out of place or in "Cute"
She was trainning with nwjns members. I don't think concept was the issue
@@joonobug it might not have been..... But in my opinion she wouldn't have fitted in this concept in my humble opinion
@@knowlesknowles2154 i kinda agree with you. I personally have watched the show and in every memory of Youngseo's performances, I never seen her doing any cute or dreamy concepts, and she tend to stick to one style - badass or girl crush. she even confessed once on camera she find it hard to relate to either Aim High or Scrum near the finale. Youngseo is literally one of my best candidates for my ideal lineup of ILLIT but its true that she might not be able to fit into something she personally found hard to conform it even if she wishes to
You can be disagree with me , but being an army and knowing how hard bts got all of this , some time it makes me angry that this new groups make it this easy , its not only that they dont get a chance to feel the music and learn about its like that their just dolls , dancing, singing, posing..
You have to be a very miserable person to expect new groups to go through horrible things just because bts went through.
And I say this as Army.
Get BTS's name out of your mouth and stop using them to attack the new Hybe groups.
@reginamoura2239 I'm not saying they should experience harsh thing to grow up, im saying they need to explore music and experience song writing and producing (obviously through the time nor this rookie groups) and fail at making hits and try again and gain experience, what we see now it's idol have evey thing ready for them , good music , good dance ,...,like even bts wasn't perfect at start , a lot vocal line were trying to find their color and were taking vocal lessons and they got better ove the time , what I ment frome hard ship wasn't living in small dorm or not having money, infact since they have good sources they can put thir interest into music and be more than just idoles( im not talking about this group since they just started)
Thank god for saving this 16-19 yo girls from that
I don't know why they would just debut idols who can't sing properly even after a survival show with so many good contestants. We all know for sure that it was rigged and maybe it's just Hybe now. Debuting idols who can't sing live. look at YG, they did take a lot of time but the group is ripping apart the stage every performance and saving k-pop. They can sing good, dance and visuals and the performance is also amazing. I hope Hybe can change one day and debut idols who are capable of everything.
Right. Baby monster one of the only 5th gen that impresses me
@@tylerlet9378agreed
Nowdays talent doesn't matter .they will be popular and get support if they came from a big company
And also visuals...
Тоже самое говорили об айлолах 4го поколения
I feel like thier line-up is best suited for thier concept
Yunah doesn’t. She looks so mature compared to other members
@@talkingtofu People like you couldn’t wait to criticize someone for something. YALL do this with every single group. Like leave her the fuck alone. She fits the concept and this is the DEBUT . There will be more concepts in the future that will adhere more to each member. Clearly this concept fits Moka the best. However to say she doesn’t fit is just inaccurate.
@@talkingtofuI feel like the company knows more than fucking you when it came to selecting trainees for their debut. You antis are so fucking annoying
Nah truth hurts and i can see that you’re crying. Idgaf about kpop, i just saw their mv and share my initial thoughts. Visual wise, she just looks different from the group. I’m not saying she isn’t beautiful. Stay off the internet if you’re being this overdramatic over someone you don’t know
bet no one really thinks yunah is cuter than the other 4 members. She just looks older for her age and ya’ll know it. It’s not that hard to see. You have two eyes, use it.
i am tired of bland y2k concept
What if yg turned babymonster into monster high vibe,like the outfit,make up it's gonna diff in other k-pop group like BP it going to be iconic
not sure you understand what y2k is
You are tired,then make a new one
Same
I agree kpop today is the worst 😡😡😡I am a fan of SM town I use to hear Super Junior, TVXQ, SNSD, FX and more..
I think you are an ILLIT fan KOOKIELIT. You didn't point out their live singing abilities.
She's gatekeeping ILLIT. Lol
their encore tho. 😭 At this point, I can only think that they're famous because they're overhyped for no reason. I felt bad for the few members that can actually sing being dragged along the hate.
"magnetic" sounds like "cupid" by fifty-fifty
Fr
I kind of left kpop when BTS went to the military. But ILLIT has brought me back. All 4 songs on their debut album are incredible. They're making the genre fun for me again. Good luck ILLIT!
if this is the future of kpop, then i’ll stick to just watching kdramas.
baemon and kiss of life future of kpop
Nmixx and purple kiss just stop following hybe
This is why I don’t Stan some of 5th gen they aren’t even as talented but once they are pretty enough the companies seem to ignore the talent because they prefer popularity and beauty this sucks.
Ok don't lol. They are relevant without your enjoyment
@@tenzinsii I can listen to whatever tf I want to I’m just saying they like beauty over talent idols don’t sound as good anymore just say you prefer untalented people
@@janeeseiji oh really? 5th gen is not good? do you know about baemon and kiof... wow
@@Pink_Serenade please think about what the fuck i said and stop being dumb. I said SOME. S O M E. READ FFS
@@Pink_Serenade and babymonster aren’t that good to be so popular anyway there’s multiple idols they are being compared to and it makes no sense because none of them aren’t even on some idols level just because one song sounds good doesn’t mean they’ll impress people more in the future because i guess companies like debuting minors because most of 5th vocals changes every song.
If they get promoted properly they will definitely succeed 💯
Honestly this just happens to HYBE groups because I saw some comments generalizing 5th Gen but there are other promising 5th Gen groups who are also working hard on their own way like UNIS and Baby Monster. Buuuuut, before some come back biting at me because BM is from YG, atleast they have music output even before their official debut like pre-debut songs.
ALSO, UNIS! I swear I only believe in talents guys UNIS and BM are the groups that I really look forward to in 5th gen.
its crazy how ppl hype them up cause if other groups released a song like that it wouldnt even reach the top
Im happy that there's nothing like this in Universe Ticket.
Unis members are all from fan voting. except by the 2 members that have promoted because of their skill and pick by the judges. ❤
Just like TWICE, they listened to fan voting and picked the most talented. Thats how Momo and Tzuyu got in the final lineup. UNIS so Twice coded
So many people on Twitter and my friends tweeted things like "Pre-debut ILLIT stan here!" or "PRE-DEBUT ILLIT STANS ASSEMBLE!!". I just want to state my opinion. I did not care when ILLIT was announced because the moment I saw the words "new girl group" and "survival show" I left. Every kpop fan should now that survival shows have to have SOME sort of rigging in it, and it all depends on how good they cover it up. This video only proves my point. I'm not saying their is rigging when companies alone choose but generally it's between 2 parties, not multiple.
Hybe can get away with putting idols who doesn't know how to sing,,,,only beauty and dance a bit would be okay because they're hybe...
Kpop is being messy and messy and actually i'm not surpriseed anymore the 5th gen is going to be the worst gen in the whole kpop 😢😢
4th gen is kinda unbeatable…
riize and kiss of life would save 5th gen dw
@@Hellokitty_391those dirty ass groups💀 rise is flopping💀
@@Hellokitty_391😂😂
the 5th gen music is too good, but the fans are DISGUSTING
Hybe just copying newjeans but the harsh truth is this is just ruining the kpop industry cause kpop is known for their stages and performances but because of their fresh vibes the awards shows , concerts are going to be abandoned cause fresh vibes on stages its an absurd relation so , please try to understand the difference between listening songs and stage songs.
Wdym by hybe is just copying new jeans?New jeans have a Y2K concept while illit have a dreamy/supernatural concept.I get it,their music sounds familiar,but ITS NOT THE SAME.Even if they did have have Y2K concept doesn’t mean their copying new jeans.Ok k-pop songs are not meant to be listened to and are jut for stage performances?Lol no.Songs may not look good on stage because of the choreography or music,but how does that have to do with anything ?If you don’t like their music or choreography,then fine no one ‘s forcing you to.But don’t try to hate on their concept or music,it’s quite dumb🙄🙄
@@mishuramim2006 They are very similar to newjeans and you can't deny that.
Is there any single group from Hybe who can sing properly. Watching their encore, I felt like I can be an idol also without any vocal training. They were literally screaming in the name of singing
Yes the one who single handily saved them from bankruptcy.
BTS.
Yes, there are. Enhypen, txt, nwjs, svt and bts for me. Their raw vocals are pretty good. And then there are groups such as ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM except Minju and Yunjin respectively that REALLY need to work on their vocals :)
the only ones who can't are le serrafim and illit
I’m not even a hater or anything good on the girls … but Magnetic literally sounds like a NJ song and their style is very similar to NJ, that part is not wrong 🤣
For me best girl groups in 5th gen are Babymonster, Kiss of Life and New Jeans.
newjeans is 4th gen not 5th
i think illit would be worth it to hype up if it's Jiwoo, Jeemin, Chanelle, Youngseo, Iroha and Minju.
@kookielit Did you make this video before or after Babymonster debut countdown special? 😂😅
When I saw ILLIT's debut song 'Magnetic', I was so shocked. I had to double check if it was their debut. They've released such a good song with such good choreography. I really enjoyed the song, it was so upbeat. It reminded me of NewJeans but that's not a bad thing, it means they have a lot of potential to grow like NewJeans did! ILLIT's members are so talented and pretty. I am excited to see more of their songs just by their debut. The future of K-pop for me. 😊
Not me I’m sorry those girls didn’t deserve it because they were other girls more advanced
I didn’t watch the series. But the video/song is very lack luster. It’s kind of like a forgettable b-side.
You are Getting ahead of yourself. Win daesang in first year first before you declare that they are furture of kpop. Newjeans is still around you know. They are the top at the moment.
They will not outsold NewJeans tho ❤
Sorry but the song is for kids, they targeted a trendy TikTok instead of showcasing their talent they let The song do Their jobs for them and another thing they can't dance that's why already they are dragging them that they can't dance,
Though my family are big fans of BTS, LE SSERAFIM and ENHYPEN (all Hybe artist). We are gearing more to F&F's UNIS because we see & feel the humbleness of BTS on that group that we don't see & feel in illit.
But super women is blah
@@ratangarg3821 I get you, it's blah for you because it's real music with meaningful lyrics. Nowadays a lot of songs are just carried by catchy beats & catchy chorus & following the style of New Jeans. Unis on the other hand are focused on substance in music & character all the members are just interestingly different.
@@ratangarg3821
+Superwoman+
is bout expressing d strong will they have to survive UT & setting example 4 d fans. With lyrics like I got power, not a follower
Means they want to be different.
+Whatchu need+
is bout confidence. That even though they are signed by a new & small entertainment company they got what it takes to complete.
+Dopamine+
Means a gift to the fans. Reward of memory, movement, motivation, mood, attention and more.
+Butterfly's dream+
you what they say about Young love. It's special thing that last for a lifetime.
+Dream of girls+
beautiful lyrics, means being Hopeful & maturity.
& that is why i appreciate Unis more than others.
@@ratangarg3821
Superwoman:
Is bout expressing the strong will in achieving dreams & setting example to the young fans. With lyrics like I got power, not a follower means they want to be different.
Whatchu need:
Is about confidence. That even though they are signed by a new & small entertainment company they got what it takes to complete.
Dopamine:
A gift to the fans. Reward of memory, movement, motivation, mood, attention and more.
Butterfly's dream:
You know what they say about Young love. It's special. Something that last for a lifetime.
Dream of girls:
Beautiful lyrics, means hope & maturity.
@@ianavegnon856new jeans style isn’t even new. It’s cutesy vibe matched with 2YK, a concept that is already popular and known
Calling these girls the future of kpop is only doing harm to the ACTUAL future of kpop (TXT, SKZ, ENHYPEN, BAEMON, KIOF, UNIS, NMIXX, ITZY, AESPA, TWS, etc..) They're 4-5 gen but still insanely talented. Also the future of kpop..sounds so similar..hmm (Isn't it enha's title?). HYBE earned money from first BTS then SVT, TXT and ENHYPEN and now they're burning it. They should focus on training their idols instead of debuting pretty girls with barely any skill. They have potential however the lineup could've been better
Their encore stage was a mess, if they're the future of kpop, then consider kpop dead. Can we get back to the time when kpop idols weren't just industry products but actually great singers, dancers and performers
Idk girlie, have you seen that encore tho??? 😭
AYO. Everyone was criticising ILLIT before their debut. But the girls are actually great! Their songs and concept is great!
It has nothing to do with the girls it’s the producers
Which songs? Magnetic 😂bfr
The criticism was that they very obviously had a girl picked from the 1st episode to the last they wanted to debut. It didn't matter that there were better performers than her she got the most screen time. The original rules stated that votes were 50% Kvotes, 20% international votes, 30% producers votes. When their It girl wasn't making the cut, they moved her during the last episode to the top, changing the rules to get her in the lineup only allowing 2 girls through Kvotes, and 4 through producers votes, no vote for international voters. They wanted to have then debut as a global girl group but cut out the global voters when their girl was not popular with most of the Korean and international voters. It was totally rigged. The 2 most popular girls, with both Korean and international voters were eliminated the episode before the final made no sense.
@@ajamzmom4882Still talking about the show? Time to move on, it's over.
@@ajamzmom4882Jiwoo was not popular with Koreans. Quit lying.
Things were very rocky during their predebut days, but i hope people would give them a chance and realize their potential. Even though your faves didn't make it, these girls are still human and are only victims of thar rigged show. Nevertheless, they're still trainees who worked very hard and dreamed to be an idol for a long time. Let them prove to you that they are worthy of being chosen in the lineup (even though they already did with Magnetic). Let's all move on from the past and help pave the way for ILLIT's success as a group. Please give them a chance ❤️
Inorganic views in spotify lol!
Hybe is tooooooo obv payola
Ok if these girls are the future then oh boy good luck to kpop
Hybe seriously needs to help these girls vocals
YOU were wrong 💀Fans of hybe artists know this: Hybe has its problems but releasing good music is not one of them. Hybe groups will always have good music: BTS, SVT, TXT, Enhypen, Le Sserafim, NewJeans, TWS, Boynextdoor, ILLIT: all have good music every comeback… Hybe guarantees good music and ensuring members have a good relationship with each other
Idk about all that
All these groups are carrying kpop RN 🥳
Amen @@hi.laulau
Excuse you, but SVT before joining hybe still produces good music.
Go watch the new groups live performances, ur ears will be bless
i think its better that the company decides the lineup because they know better what works better for the concept
Thats true, but making fans believe there votes have impact on the line up isn't great.
the only illit member who can song is a rejected trainee of babymonster
She left herself lol
The only survival show where I wholeheartedly voted was R u next after I-land. The show was going well until they decided to rigged the voting system at the last episode and those who haven’t watched the show yet you guys should go and watch it from start then trust me you would also feel bad for those three amazing talented girls who should have deserved to debut rather than some girls from this group
When NewJeans debuted, they sang in live, but ILLIT not, ILLit has a easy dance and they don't sing in live.
All hybe groups sang live ngl
Yeah they can sing live but some are not. Other says they need a vocal lessons.
Ppl gotta remember, a company needs to protect their earning potential. If they wanna make a lineup change due to concept/whatever, they should.
So if Hybe already known who will debute then there was no point for the show.
They wanted pre debut popularity and $$$$
The ERA of BTS ,BP , TWICE, GOT7, Seventeen, Btob, bigbang, red velvet , nct was just-.✨
The only 4th gen group i listen to are SKZ and TXT. ✨✨✨✨
Babymonster is the real future of K-pop
It's not girls fault there ia a saying that's don't judge book by its cover and now hybe is the most successful company and biggest company so its really easy for rookie group to become barn ambassador its nit shocking I know it is so soon but hybe knows how to promote new groups and its best for them as long as company paid and treat them better that matter the most and yeah hybe artist never disappoint us I hope people's support them
If I'm not mistaken"ILLIT" also had a controversy about plagiarism, not the one that it sound like new jeans, but it's about the dance cover they do I guess, by using other artist dance steps and putting it on other song. Not sure though just correct me if I'm wrong
Hybe payroll. She just mentioned her opinions and calling them big.
Now, hold on ILLIT isn’t the future of K-pop there are so many other groups to debut yet so we can’t call them The future of K-pop lol but their debut album is amazing 🤩
A real great future would be if companies follow what KISS OF LIFE is doing lol, thats a group
Why are people so mean Here Like give them a Chance i Like their music it doesn't Sound Bad so why all this hate
I quite liked the song magnetic until the BaebAebAeBaEbAebaE part came 💀💀
You're opinion
@@adoraeble no kidding, also your*
@@UlajNarasifen im sorry i didn't realize that i made a mistake
ENHYPEN title is future of kpop. But actually im a belift stan. I'm an youllit and an engenes so it's okay if they are called future of kpop too!! a girlgroup version cause boygroup version is enhypen. ILLIT AND ENHYPEN ARE SIBLINGS SO YEA
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tf u bring them into this?
@@here_to_STAY_and what even an stay doing here?, shut ur mouth they're better than the Illit as you should know
Mind Yourself and not write comments everywhere randomly to attack for nothing , stop being so mad
Yeah illit are not Kpop Future & nwjns aren't, bm are not
No one deserves.
Abt enhypen it's their official title.🫡
Not kpopies calling a Svt member "kpop future" , calm down guys this is over
Stays are more annoying @@here_to_STAY_
@@kkultteokkiewhy do you have to be so rude and aggressive? You can have an opinion, but just because someone’s a fan of a group that isn’t being talked about in the video doesn’t mean they can’t enjoy their music and content as well. You accused the person of randomly attacking, but that wasn’t even an attack, they were asking why the commentor was bringing up enhypen under an illit video; if anything, you are the one attacking someone randomly. As for the “future of kpop” thing, they’re all the future because the present affects the future. Not just one group represents Kpop because all artists are different. Do better.
I don’t follow kpop news lately because it’s stressing but I’m going to say not every group gets the success they have planned some flop while others succeed but at the end of the day everyone criticizes because no one has anything better to do
This is so true though, finally someone said it
I think we're heading to the era where all we hear and see are about Tiktok challenges and music, brand deals, ambassador this and that. No more legit kpop.
Even though the current line up is the best for their concept. They wasted the other trainees time. They were more talented trainees that did not need to go through the psychological trauma of a survival show if the line up and concept was already figured. They didn't need that extra promotion they are from HYBE! So why not just debut them from the start without the show
not to sound defensive. there are benefits for the others to appear actually, because they get the chance to hone their skills further and nurture pre-debut fanbases, and its not a waste of time as what some people believe. for example, Bang Jeemin, who is eliminated from R U Next, is now going to take part in iland 2 and she already amassed a great following from her previous R U Next fans and the current iland 2 fans, and this will be beneficial for her to have some degree of support to help her debut, and probably the group in the long run. some of the eliminated trainees also, in their interviews, consider R U Next as a transit point for them to rediscover their new sides and enhance skills that they need to hone and improve.
@@WJHallyuLover8365 Hmm Good point. personally I still feel it's unnecessary though.
@@imasuenrhema4825 it’s okay for you to have your opinions, and disagreements are bound to be present here and there. The thing is, there can also be people who took offence and might argue with you at some views you have even if you never meant to let this happen, and there are others who can beg to differ with you in a more respectable manner. I myself have gone through or witnessed such situations before here and there
@@WJHallyuLover8365 Yh I think you're right. I think we can agree to disagree on this one. I like your points though
Exactly just don't do a survival show if y'all are gonna debut members according to the concept
Tbh I dont stand ILLIT but I do wish the best for them they are getting to much hate. Hybe is the one you should hate on
But they didn't even sing in their debut song, The song was literally computer-generated and the chorus is what ????? Tun- tun tun tun tun tun......???
Agreed
You clearly didn't listen the song so pls listen to it first😊
what?
Stop talking nonsense. They sang the songs live.
The chorus is clearly dance focused
Dont forget the other theory thats subtly understandable, is that Youngeseo Parent's wanted to focus on her studies instead of debuting.
Payola group from HYBE... what's new...
They look identical, have weak voices and no presence. They are so very bland.
Finally someone said it.
True.I don’t understand why they’re so popular
I agree with you. No visuals and it's hard to get attached to them even if I'm trying my best for them
ILLIT feels like a new jeans spinoff, hope i am wrong
theyre milking out the newjeans concept fr. watch once newjeans comesback nobodys gonna pay attention to illit their clones
Debuting under a big company has it's privileges. But debuting under HYBE? That company is a whole new level of privilege, hype, and overrating.
So, like blackpink, red velvet and twice, and got7, and icon, and nct members are the privileged ones cause they are debuted in big 3 back in the days? And are they overrating?
Although it was quite rigged but i still think that they might have a bright future...i like thier concept
How the show and voting worked was clearly stated from the beginning.
But they're so newjeans replica, but I'll wait and see after a few comeback if they will change their concept.
@@QWERTY-xj8fethey aren’t 💀 newjeans does y2k while illit does y3k, anime dreamy style
@@minjunim0 I dunno man, I just can't unsee and unhear newjeans from illit's magnetic, though I also wish thats not the case for me.
@@QWERTY-xj8feyou just see 5 asian girls doing a cute & light concept and think they're like newjeans that's a bit weird also none of their songs sound nothing like newjeans more like loona, fromis or tripleS
Girl, you just make anything up for views. 95% of the info is an opinion or not based in facts.
So we can now expect this to be the norm: you cant debut without controversy.
My final line up was --
Iroha
Jeemin
Yunah
Minju
Youngseo
Jiwoo
(Cz Chanelle jihyun jeongeun were already eliminated)!
Yes i was quite disappointed with the line up but i wasn't harsh on them.
I'm glad this happened - jeemin is in i-land 2 i hope she debut this time.
And for the rest i hope to see them future. At the end of the day
Everything happens for a reason.
Lastly i followed immediately when ILL-IT 's Instagram Twitter were created but the followers were so less like K and after their debut the account on if reached 1 million after 2-3 days of their debut.. I'm happy for them and hope they will drop more great Music!!
girlgroups under hybe is more pouring their money for creating tiktok MUSIC than focus on their artist vocal training....
For the rigging part, I thought that too cause everything looked so fishy. Same as the "Unis" group, like barely any of the girls had a real reaction, they seemed like they knew it already to me.
But beside this, I really really like them (ILLIT), I love this Bubbly/Magical kinda vibe, also Moka looks like a Lolita everytime I see her, she is so cute. But beside the cuteness, each member since the show, grow up so much, I remember Wonhee being really bad with expressions, but now she is doing much much better, she improved a lot. I also love Minju voice, I don't know but it hits me kinda different, her tone is unique. Iroha is such a great dancer, I don't know if it is just me, but she is the Maknae, but looks the oldest to me, her vibe just hits different, and she is only 15! Plus she has this HipHop vibe that always gets me. (I love the HipHop vibe)
And then Yunah, what everyone thinks or at least I think, should be the leader! She has that leader vibe to me.
But when it comes to Unis, most of the members are all rounder. Especially when it comes to vocal, they are all visuals too
The future!? 😭 They're literally newjeans 2.0 with mediocre vocals and nothing new to offer to the industry. The producers of the mini album did an extraordinary job though, so the credit should go to them 💞
The jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Being mad at them for going to fashion week is like being mad Willow Smith is releasing music because her father helped with the spotlight 😅 A LOT of pop (western included) is rigged with unfair advantages. It’s just how it is. There’s plenty of talent and charisma out there, and a select few of people just get lucky. 🤷🏻 If you want to support more authentic organic roots, go look to independent local artists uploading to social media. Don’t expect it out of the Kpop group-producing machine, lol.
With that said, I enjoy this group. They’re charming and I wish them the best.
I still miss chanelle
why is this discourse reminded me of when Itzy debuted lol and Illit just debuted, let's not get carried away
Honestly i feel like they had chosen on whom to debut before the show ended.
No problem at All , it doesn’t matter if u don’t like them , all the members are living with their dreams .