Watch This Before Buying a Voron Clone (Troodon 2.0)
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2023
- In this video I provide some need-to-know information concerning the Voron-inspired Troodon 2.0.
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I like that your covering a Voron Clone. The more options, the better. I think you should take a closer look at the CAN bus modification. It greatly simplifies the wiring. You only run 4 wires to the hot end (2 for power, 2 for signal). You're not running 12 to 18 wires to it. Makes the embiblical cord mod feasible. The Voron team has really been knocking it out of the park lately.
Looks like Formbot bumped the price since I released this video. Trying to negotiate a discount code for you guys. Stay tuned...
I also misquoted the build volume. It is 350x350x330, not 350x350x350.
Yes but above 280 in Z axis the teflon tube that feeds the filament becomes an issue, as it´s bending against the top cover. I don´t print above 300mm with this machine.
Looking forward to the comparison between the printers!
Again, thanks for the time you put into this. Highly appreciated!
Love your videos. Grabbed my notebook when you were installing the Updates there. Haven't done that yet, and maybe a bit concerned I'll brick the machine, lol.
You cover everything I wondered in thorough detail. Thank you and subbed.
Thanks for the sub!
Great update video.
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Cool machine , thats what i spect for a fast 3d printer today , closed for print high temp materials, fullmetal hot end ,core xy ,autobed level, and the price is reasonable for what yuo get (compere this to the last Prusa Mk4 (yes ,its a good machine , but...i think a little obsolet cartesian desing) or the Carbon X1 (yes cool machine core xy)
Thanks for this video, help me to decide to go get VORON original, in the long run original is better choice in line with upgrades.
Cheers. Happy printing.
Great info! Could you share where you got yours? So many scammers out there!
I bought directly from Formbot/Vivedino: www.formbot3d.com
Thanks for the Vids, Love the channel. Formbot has already increased the price to $999 from China and $1099 from the United States. Bummer!
Ah darn! That sucks 😔
in your opinion, do you like the troodon better than the voron 2.4?
i was looking for kits the recent week and with 3D printed parts for it (not easy as some don't list what specs it has) and a direct drive with outdated extruder i would spend anywhere from 1500 to 1800 euro which is waaaay beyond my budget
seeing the troodon 2.0 being not only a complete package with features i want, but also mostly assembled for 1100 ish euro gives me a bit more hope.
genuinely would like to hear your experience after printing with them for a while and what potential issues you might have encountered so far.
also can it perhaps connect to a laptop through USB to run klipper in a virtual machine?
I personally like my Troodon more than my Voron but that's maybe just because I've dedicated more time to it. The Troodon offers great value for the money. There are a few issues but a lot have already been addressed by the manufacturer or the community. I'm not familiar with running Klipper in a virtual machine but any way you would normally run Klipper would be viable with this machine.
No one seems to show good prints from it.
Does it actually stick up to 500mm/s print s po eeds with quality? What's the safest best max speed for good prints? Thx
You're definitely going to hit the flow rate limit at those speeds. I've only been able to hit 100 mm/s with the stock hotend before under extruding with PLA at 215. To print faster I'd suggest switching to a high flow hotend.
It seems like very good value. I have a Troodon 30x30x40 and would like another one, but preferably larger. I hope they will make a 40x40x50 of the 2.0!! - Wondering how much work it would take to heighten the print area!? - Probably too much work, right?
It seems unlikely that they'd do that to be honest. Extending the build height seems like it would be difficult as you'd need to re-do the wiring in addition to replacing the extrusions, rails and belts.
@@ygk3d Yeah, you are probably right, but they do have a large 1.0 version, so one might have a bit of hope :-)
Yes, most likely to much work to enlarge the new one. - Great videos btw 👍
Thank you for your video. I use my Troodon 2.0 for a few days. I was able to add few magic lines and plugins based on your previous videos. Now i can use 500mm/s travel moves without issue. The only issue i have is that the extruder is overheating. Example: printing benchy, PLA, 0,2mm, bed at 60°C, hotend at 220°C, print speed 100mm/s, air filtration OFF. After few minutes the extruder motor overheats, looses torque and starts to skip steps. If I use air filtration ON, i can print almost whole benchy, like 95%, then the e-motor skips steps again. If i leave the front door open this does not happen. Any idea, please? Manufacturer told me to keep the doors open :)
Thanks for your comment. Did you try turning down the stepper driver current?
@@ygk3d no, i kept stock value. Any suggestions what values should i try, please? Thank you.
@@lilbHEMI Try changing the E value to 700 beside the M906 command in your config.g (assuming you’re running RepRap).
@@ygk3d yes, i´m on stock fw. Changing the E value in M906 from 800 to 700 decreased the E-motor temp by 9°C. Thank you, I´ll keep testing.
You need to keep the doors open with PLA. If you don't the temperature inside the enclosure is high enough that the PLA softens in the extruder and will start to clog the plinthead. I believe that is the step skipping you are seeing. The extruder can take much higher internal temps without problems. I run an active chamber heater that keeps the inside at 60C and its totally fine.
I don't think there's anything that dictates a Voron "has" to be made from scratch. Voron doesn't actually sell any printers, and companies are free to make kits instead of forcing people to source individual components. But that doesn't make a Voron kit a "clone" because no company sells the "original" Voron 3D printer.
Some good points there. Although, the Troodon isn’t just a Voron kit. It’s a pre-assembled “Voron inspired” printer. Clone is just a convenient way to describe it that quickly gets the point across.
Just assembled and setup my Troodonv 2. Took me on and off 5 hours. The instructions set off well and later on some steps are missed or in the wrong order IMO anyway. Did a Benchy and came out similar to you test. Input shaping next I guess. Super printer though and very please with my purchase. In the UK so bought from China plus shipping. Arrived on 7 days.
Taylor, how about you do a video on how to get this machine updated properly. Maybe a how to use repcrap with the Troodon2.0
Is repcrap an intentional spelling?
I show the gist of it in this video and it's covered in detail on the Teamgloomy Wiki. If you're not fond of RepRap you could always convert to Klipper.
@@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse i hate my printer...yes
@@ygk3dalthough it may be covered there. I would still like a video. As I thought I was following the instructions correctly and now my printer won’t boot. Is there anyway I can get a copy of what’s on the as card on the main board from you? Not sure where to go from here.
@@DOBBSxx Hey Mike. You can grab the stock config from here: github.com/TeamGloomy/Troodon-V2/tree/stock. If you update your board.txt file before updating the firmware, the printer won't boot. To fix it, take the SD card out of the motherboard and replace the board.txt file with the stock one. Then you can update the firmware followed by the update of board.txt.
In my experience the Stealthburner is not an upgrade as such. It is better for printing PLA at high speed but it is not as good for printing ABS. If you are buying an expensive enclosed printer I don't see why you want to print PLA but that is just me.
The Canbus setups move the extruder driver from the basement of the printer to the top of the toolhead. I don't see any real benefit of moving a driver from the fan cooled basement to inside the hot enclosure.
Are the advantages of troodon over the bambu x1
Larger build plate
I saw a Troodon for sale recently and wasn't sure what it was. After seeing this video, I'll be staying far away. I guessed it would be a clone of a Voron, but looks like it strays quite a bit.
Not sure what makes you want to "stay far away". This is a solid machine at a great price point. It deviates from the original Voron design in a few ways but some of those changes are for the better.
@@ygk3d RepRapp vs Klipper by default, and a non-standard board are my major concerns
@@MallocArray I agree that a normal Octopus board would have been a better choice, rather than the custom board. However, the board is designed by a reputable manufacture (BigTreeTech) so I wouldn't be concerned about quality. I demonstrate in a prior video in this series how to convert the machine to Klipper, if that's your preference. It's quite easy and doesn't require any hardware changes besides the addition of a Raspberry Pi.