EV Myths Debunked: FAQs and Insights from My Experience
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- In this video I answer questions about the Electric Vehicle after driving one for over 1.5 years the most comon EV Myths and also answer the important questions that you had posted about EV I also got answers to critical important EV questions directly via Tata.ev officials regrading batteries on Electric Vehicles.
This video is made in #collab with Tata.EV and I was able to get answers to some critical questions directly from Tata.ev officials
0:00 Intro
1:25 EV are Expensive
5:25 Range Anxiety
8:16 Charging Time
11:36 Resale Value
12:34 Service & Maintenance
13:38 Charging at Home
15:22 Battery Stuff
18:10 Battery Life & Charge Cycles
22:33 Battery Warranty & Replacements
24:46 Charging Infrastructure
27:25 EV & Environmental Impact 
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That's the best thing about Tata. They never tell what to speak and what not. This FAQ will help many Ranjit Sir...
ask gagan chuadhry abt it 😂
@@yashkanani9811yes also Faisal khan
Why no response on the poor after sales service and HV error
Yeah because this is not a loaner review car. This car is owned by Ranjit.
few answers are misleading dude.
The unspoken fact here is that 100's if not 1000's tata ev owners are stranded on roads everyday due to HV critical alert and tata continues to brush away the issues as charging pattern etc. and in almost all cases tata is swapping battery packs after inconveniencing customers for several months.
No other ev in the Indian market has this problem except TATA. Instead of admitting the problem and fixing it, TATA continues to best around the bush and frustrate customers who have placed so much trust in tata and invested their hard earned money.
I would recommend TATA to spend money on addressing is monster problem rather than spending money on marketing.
Thanks for your "faltu gyaan"
Very well said. People facing this issue know how difficult it is life can be with a Tata EV. Tata should fix existing issues before trying to experiment with new technology. Even the new Nexon.ev has a lot of electrical issues.
Electrical problems on an EV = major NONO!
@@Ankit-ri8sv your birth on this planet= NONONO
Those who dont know abt HV critical error.
Its a sudden drop of SOC (battery %) and your Car goes to Limited Performance Mode(Limp Mode).
Usually Limp mode should be activated only below 10%. But due to Tata's poor BMS and battery quality. This can come at any % of battery.
And the battery % starts depleting rapidly.
You can be stranded in the middle of the road if you have lower battery %.
We have a community of Tata EV owners and 2/3 owners have faced this issue.
While the main culprit of this issue is the BMS (battery management system) but Tata doesn't have a resolution to this issue. Only thing they do is replace the battery with a refurbished one (Not New Battery).
Even after replacing the battery people are still facing same issue.
Resale value is pathetic - company itself giving exchange of 8-9 lakh for long range variant
So, they cleverly avoided the question of battery replacement cost.
True, looks like it is huge right now.
Well the question is why would you need to replace it since its supposed to last more than 15 yrs, though I understand your point and want to know the peice myself but stil
@@SiD-ve6zy who told that it supposed to last for 15 years. See other videos also. Many car batteries getting faulty within 3-4 years and just above 2-3 lakh km running. Currently battery cost is approx 7 lakh for nexon. It will make a deep hole in your pocket if it gets faulty just after warranty.
@@xcstony8516 yes. 7 lakh
@@ayanbrahmachary113 Ok, I was just talking about Nexon battery, and in the video Ranjit sir said it would last longer
20:36 Heavy Driver 😂, reminded me of the older meme, bete moj kardi ...
I believe that charging stations should not impose GST and CGST on customers in order to promote the adoption of electric vehicles.♻️
To answer the question that he simply danced around,a new batter costs 7 lahk and that's not including fitting the batter or shipping depending on where you are. An entire engine and transmission will not cost you that much. Insurance costs are also high for evs because the potential of them getting damaged in a crash is much more higher therefore any crash would require a battery change for safety purposes so do with that information what you will,I'll stick to my petrol and diesels until a better solution comes along. I do not think evs are the future they are merely a stopgap until a better solution is found
While I agree with you on EVs not being the future, we can also expect it to take anywhere from 8 to 10 years for a suitable alternative to IC engines to be developed and become mainstream and cost effective. So in the meantime, for someone who does travel a lot like upwards of 1500km a month it does make sense to switch to an EV for the time being from a cost savings perspective rather than continue to use ICE vehicles until the alternative comes out.
@Averageguy007 if you're rich enough to toss it after you're done with it sure but I speak for the working class and not the minority of millionaires
@@rajeshchetty5519 I also told wrt middle class only . Really rich people don't need to switch to ev to save money. Its for the working class people who need to travel a lot for work EVs make sense currently.
@rajesh Suppose if something happened like crash and battery is unharmed, but they want to change the battery for safety reasons. Does this battery change covered by insurance?
@kollabathinamanoha2141 yes but your premium will cost more than a normal car
As always, It its Ranjit, it has to be Informative, Exciting and Detailed Review.
I'm actually glad to see that Ranjit sir is still giving unbiased reviews. I've been following this channel since the Samsung Galaxy Star era and I'm glad I never left.
It's so good to see that your channel has not vanished into the abyss.
I hope your channel keeps on growing.
A much needed video topic. Thank you
"What is the impact on the electricity bill of a 7.2kW charger? How will having 2-3 ACs running in the home during the summer affect the electricity bill if there is no solar system installed? And what will be the impact on the electricity bill if there is a solar system in our home under the same scenarios?"
I hope you'll also do a video explaining about solar panels and other components that you have installed in detail just like this one
There is no range anxiety, because ev is 2nd car for him for city use, he taken into long trip😅😅
24:40 - i looked at all my electrical switches to check where that short circuit sound came from. ah man hahaha
I did the same 😂
Whenever I want real, authentic knowledge, this has always been the channel I come to.
There might be a lot of paid influencers masquerading as reviewers, but Ranjit sir's reviews are 100% real!
This is literally a sponsored video
He is not the same as he used to be so don't trust blindly
@@rameshnande640 Oh, any reason why do you say so?
@@rambot670 Following him for 8+ years so noticed some changes
@@GauravDhandhukia People just praise without any base even he ignored the battery replacement cost
12:30 Not just 50k less sir, the resale value would be less than 2 lakh or more compared to ice. There’s 0 demand for ev in second hand market.
That is at the moment, we cannot say about future
But 4lakh+ lakh you already saved at that time
@@themothialbani4523 Thats not possible because first of all you have to break even the extra cost at the time of purchase which is 3-5 lakhs and if you drive for 1 lakh kms then you will save approx 5 lakh which will take to break even so you will save just around 50k to 1 lakh after that. But when you will go to sale the car there would be very less or no demand so you have you sale your car in this example nexon ev at just around 3-4 lakhs whereas an ice nexon would sale at min 6-7 lakh and max 10 lakhs.
So after all these you would still be at loss.
@@An0nym0u5Snakewhat if someone doesn’t care about this maths and just want to drive evs for the fun and experience.
Not everything is about saving pennies.
@@ARS298 If you want to have fun you will never buy an ev.
You will get bored within a year trust me.
good episode ranjit. answers a lot of questions.
india should also have a policy regarding the safe disposal of spent car batteries. else them getting disposed unmanaged can lead to a lot of soil and water pollution.
Used EV batteries still have ~80% capacity left which can easily be repurposed to use in grid energy storage or home power backup. The battery materials can be recycled to create new batteries but till now there aren't enough highly degraded batteries in the market so not many facilities r present for battery recycling. If the government doesn't come up with a strict policy then the scope of battery recycling would become completely dependent on economic viability.
We still have some time... At least 5 more years to bring such regulation to guarantee setting up of ev battery repurposing/recycling facilities
About the power generation in indian , about 45% is from non renewable sources as of the most recent stats
Never gonna be able to buy a car, yet I watched the full video.
Maybe not now... But why can't you buy in future?
@@SumitPrasad1 I have lost all the confidence man. Stuck at a single point. I don't even wanna blame depression anymore. Its my incompetency. I know am never gonna make it. I just know it.🙂
@@hemantbhandari8342 If you are so sure, then you may be right.... However, remember one thing - time changes for everyone!
@@hemantbhandari8342Dont worry surely you will get. When I was young I never imgined I would have one but now its my 4th. Just dont loose heart and keep trying. Cars not a big deal now.
Hi hemanth, i totally understand wht you must be going from. But i just want to say that everything will be fine. Nothing in life ever happens for wrong, just hold on and give your best you can. Remember that everything in life happens for a reason and you don't always have to know reason and everything will be good at the end. We love you. Stay strong and tske care. ❤@@hemantbhandari8342
Thanks Ranjit
Confused which one to buy max or regular.
Thank u for the information
Sir practically speaking if your distance is more than 85 -90 odd km ev makes sense in a long term.....coz we need to take considerations like electricity, solar plant charges....if it's less than 80km going with ICEA still makes a lot of sense in a long term perspective
I'm still stuck at you owning a BMW, for a person using a BMW you are a simple guy dude. Respect.
What do you expect people with German cars to do ? 😂
Was that a backhand compliment 😂
18:28 Thanks a lot for this information. This is vital now. When asked TATA directly via mail, they haven't mentioned life cycles.
Excellent video Ranjit 👍 Very helpful.
Great information sir I will consider when I bought my ist car
Hi Ranjit. It was a nice session from you on EVs.
Everyone talks and asks about batteries and their life span, but no one talks about the ELECTRIC MOTORS these cars have.
I am curious to know about the motors quality, life and their specs with respect to their performance. Appreciate if you can take this in your upcoming videos.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Really help many of us
Naveen.
Actually You have to change the gear oil. E drive oil change is required and Tata Nexon requires 1.3L gear oil.Scheduled at 7500KM 30000KM 60000KM
There is no gear in Nexon EV manh..
@@themothialbani4523 EVs do have a transmission and gear for forward and reverse, so you do need oil for that. Besides the transmission oil, there is brake oil, coolant for battery and motor, and washer fluid for your wiper. And all these last very long(coolant & brake oil) or are very cheap(washer fluid) and and won't require frequent changes like engine oil.
also battery replacement cost question was not answered.. it costs around 4.5 to 7L today.
@@themothialbani4523there is physical reverse gear not by changing motor polarity
@@shresthsonkar9207 That'd be epic. Alas, let's hope for it to become a thing sooner rather than later for now.
Mr.Ranjit I’ve been watching your videos from many years and just love the content you provide just a small advice change your channel font that you put on the top right of the video and make it minimalist and modern. Good luck
Just to add some details on AC question. If one uses AC in Nexon EV Max, when it is standing for an Hour, it consumes only 3% battery per hour. So its quite efficient in that ways! Moreover, the compression performance in ICE cars is better when vehicle is movong, whereas in EV, it exactly same independent of vehicle movement status!
Ranjit sir, you should definitely start car reviewing :)
He already kind of did for a while, on his other channel.
PS I hope we get more content there
Honestly this is misleading Ranjit. Battery replacement cost question was completely dodged by tata team and you. Cost of replacement battery today is atleast 4.5L and go upto 6L. Which means today or in future the battery replacement cost is anywhere from 40% of vehicles the then value to more than that.
Not the entire battery has to be changed only a few cells has to be changed which costs around 15 to 20k
In my opinion, the battery replacement question is moot and should not weigh much while purchasing an EV.
Do you make a purchasing decision for an ICE vehicle depending upon the cost of replacing the engine?
Battery replacement is a thing that happens after around 8 years. Like the engine the performance/ efficiency drops gradually and you can always plan around that. Also the manufacturer provide a warranty for the same
@@sahilpatnihow many times do you have to overhaul your ICE vehicles ?
@@Hadtotypesomething not more than once
Never trust Collab videos from Ranjit. We all know the replacement cost of the battery. EV market is already slowing down.
Sir you have promised us that you will gonna do a long term review of S24 plus in peak summer's but you didn't. Please its request if possible pls do a long term review of S24plus or S24.
You should try disclosing the number of nexon ev vehicles that getting broke down every day on road and the pathetic service by the authorised service centers.
Looks like a promotional video. Kudos for your influencer job by not discusing about the actual issues faced by ev owners.
- owner of nexon ev from 2021
Tata is very good at marketing, and they will make sure the public takes these promotional videos sentimentally as organic which they're clearly not
I drive a tesla model y and it's range prediction and estimation algorithm is super.. Topped with super charge network... I'm able to travel without worries or panic attacks in Europe
Please mention that if you need to run ac make sure car is in ready mode else aux battery will be drained.
Sir you should also consider vehicles used for commercial purpose who might run 250kms daily and answer the battery replacement cost. For a individual user, he/she might not complete the life cycle in 10yrs.
Think it this way : if you are consistently driving 200km per day for 5y, that’s 3.6lakh km
How much will cng or diesel commercial vehicle cost for fuel and service for driving this much?
Even if you have to change battery after 5y, you have saved like 15-20L in fuel and service
Do you really care about the battery price then?
@@shresthsonkar9207 yes, it's good to know the price of battery. I am not talking about the savings from not opting an ICE vehicle, since there will definitely be recovery of the money. But what about the life cycles of the battery ?
The battery price might decrease in future, but why is that the oem do not disclose the current battery price ? If they give the current battery price, we can ourselves estimate the future price. They are neither stating the current battery price, nor the future estimates. This is not right.
It's not hard to do the math. Just subtract the price of their top model ICE car from their top model EV car. It gives you rough estimate of battery price. @@Jatayyu
Awesome video, there are many myths around EVs , thanks for busting them..
It isn’t just the car having critical issues but Tata’s service is the biggest weak link. Very unprofessional and I notice that some service centres use customer cars for training new staff (maybe other manufacturers do this too) but the way Tata treats customer vehicles during service is absolutely abysmal. Tata broke my vehicle’s charging cover and refused to repair or replace the part in question.
@geekyranjit, big fan of yours !!
Sales of EV has off late started to taper or fallen worldwide. Even Tata has revised their EV target in India from 50% to 30% in 2030.
I think the biggest drawback of any EV in becoming mainstream is the turnaround time to road.
If we compare to ICE cars where you can practically fill in the fuel and get back on road in max 10-15 mins, for EVs it might take hrs to do the same. This is taking into account best case scenario that we have enough infra for charging and there is no wait time. If infra is lacking then this turnaround time goes for a toss.
People are mistaking how much they drive on highway in first place. NHAI stats itself says that just 6 million vehicle passes tolls daily, even if 50% are cars and rest are truck bus, that’s 3million or 1% of the 300million cars in India
Reality is people mostly buy car as status symbol and local travel free from congestion of bus or from pollution/rain/heat of using bikes.
It’s like buying DSLR just because there maybe family function one in blue moon when you have to click photo without hiring costly photographers
If I have to travel long (500km) then I will prefer train or bus. For more than 500, flight. Why will I waste time on road and risk my life with all the over speeding, wrong side drivers, cattle and jaywalkers on the road?
@@shresthsonkar9207 Dont generalize your preference to everyone.. There are many people who want to go an ride with family in their car at their own speed and convenience. Also, the very process of riding on a highway is a joyful experience that people would crave for. Now don't come up with silly logic to rent a car if needed. There is a difference in driving your own vehicle and driving a rented vehicle.
@@bhanu.01 22 people have cars among every 1000 people in India. 1% of these 22 people ever go on highway. It is not my “preference” it is what the NHAI stats say unless everyone is breaking tolls and not paying anything
@@shresthsonkar9207 Now you are again giving stats about not many people going on highways. But I am talking about those people who want to drive on highways even occasionally. You said why chose petrol car when going on highway when one can opt for bus/train/flight. So you are obviously not answering to what i said and instead quoting numbers on something else.. So dont rub your idea of taking bus/train/flight on highways to others as many people would like to ride on their own car at their own convenience and speed
Usually you don't need to stop more than a usuall lunch break, the average stop for charging for me is approx 30-40 minutes, so I just plan my lunch stops that way and at locations where there are chargers from reliable providers like statiq or glida or jiobp.
Best time for this. As UP govt remove rto tax.🎉
Solid State Battery technology is also coming into picture. Next 5 years there would be a drastic change in how EVs are run...
Very well explained about battery related questions. My biggest concern were dip in range and the myth of 20%-80% chargeing.
However one question remains - what about vehicle insurance if there is any accident causing battery damage ? Is the battery included in policy or or?
You simply need to have another car in ur garage if u want an EV in its current form. They are not reliable yet and if u look into it over the entire cost of ownership then u don’t really save much. My 3 year old EV with 90k kms (battery replacement at 55k kms) is worth only about 3-4 lakhs
The KM range with EV's specifically OLA X+ is ambiguous as they boast of a 125+ range but it gives around 90KM average. Companies need to be transparent with KM range that will help in more customers moving to EV
As we all know, there are EVs with different types of battery chemistry available in the marker. Can you please suggest which one will endure the most amount of charge cycles, and also which one to buy considering India's harsh weather conditions?
As usual, loved your video and honesty...keep up your good work.
LFP is most ideal for Indian climate as it is more heat resistant and no need to follow 80% rule
Thanks for sharing the facts and these are really useful.. still I can't opt for a EV as I have a anxiety issue. And I know I can overcome it like you did a month after buying.
@@suvenduswain you can try EV rentals to see if it works for you
@geekyranjith Is it a myth or a fact that we cannot charge the Nexon EV more than four consecutive times using a DC charger? If true, can we ask the service center to change this setting if we plan to go on a long drive across India?
Why is that tata skipped the exact pricing of battery replacement? Atleast they could have given some approximate figure
No one can predict what China can do in the next 10 years. A lot of R&D is being done
Does tata ev cars have obd port? Location and usage for normal user
Why didn't consider the resale value of car while considering the cost. Approaching this video with a pinch of salt...
If you sell ev then it won’t make economically sense , try as long as possible.
In delhi 10yr old car is squashed and anywhere else resale value after 10yrs is almost peanuts
Those who say that range anxiety is not there, should consider climbs on road. My friend bought regular nexon ev, which usually gives 200 to 220 km range couldn't go beyond 120km. Infact, at one point there was 20% charge left and one climb of 1.5km dropped the range to 5%. He just bought baleno so that he can long distance. Otherwise, it is great.
This charging network that was showing also shall contain the status. Whether they are empty or occupied or working or not etc.,
2 years, almost 50000 kms, nexon ev has been great for me. Yes it’s not perfect and yes there are some hiccups but if you understand your needs, it’s a good option.
Thanks a lott for this. 👍
even after 1500-1800% charge cycle, battery still has capacity of 70%.
Some say it is better to charge battery by slow charger rather fast charger...as fast charger affects battery life
sir how is it long time usage samsung s23 ultra worthful or not
Smartly, Tata avoided telling us battery replacement costs. Could not they simply give us the cost as of today? The reason they avoided this is because it has been found that the cost can be as high as 85% of original car cost (check other youtube videos for this). So once the battery warranty period is gone and your battery fails somehow, you have to scrap the car.
How's the service with Tata??
He will never say that
Out of all persons i have a tata vehicle, there isnt a single person who said its good, everyone said its terrible
Good
Sir please make a video on ergo chairs you using
Oh I just completely forgot that you exist.
Sir, make more videos on EV and review EV cars
i have installed the charger it is 3.2kwh
but want to convert it into 7.2kwh but they are not sending the person who installed the charger and their technicians
@@vivekreddym8404 don’t buy 7kW OEM charger
Get third party charger like jio or zevpoint it’s cheaper 35k vs 50k and have features like charge scheduling, charging cap, and remote start/stop charger
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Hats Off to Geekyranjit 💘💘💘💘
Sir can you please give me your sennheiser cx 275s, I saw your unboxing video and purchased them. Now I am not finding them In the market..!
Can you suggest a solar system, which can be connected to the AC charger?
@@ramendra6285 you buy solar system for entire house (either on grid or off grid) not just for EV charging.
5kW solar setup from any reputed brand like luminous, Tata power sukam should be good
Paid almost 50K for 6 years extended warranty for 2024 Nexon EV LR
I'm a lay man & I'll not take a 1 or 1.5hrs break after every 200kms just to charge my car, end of the debate!
I'm a smart man, I'll take a loo break and stretch my legs atleast after driving 200 long kms, no debate.
@@HarshThe119 don't sit in loo for 1hr then!😅
@@pauldundigalla "...loo break and STRETCH MY LEGS..."
Read lay man Read.
@@HarshThe119 Hey smart man, nobody will stretch legs for 1hr after every 3hrs of drive.
My friend last week travelled 250 kms non stop in his byd seal and travelled back home without charging with still charge to spare.
Please do a remarkable 2 review
Hi Ranjit, it's me_ Sufal. Can you please review Toshiba Mini LED QLED TV(55 inches)!
Share your experiences with Tier one branded TVs with value for money options in TV market pls.
Btw, you don't have to say that line like' this video isn't sponsored'- we all knew it already (ALWAYS). 💚
what about electricity bill on charging EV at home
Depends on where you stay. Few states have subsidy on electric bills. Few residential areas have common chargers from solar grid. You can also install solar panel on your house and it is literally free of cost to run EV if you already have panel in your house. There is a huge subsidy from government on solar panels as well.
Ranjit sir , I am also from Hyderabad, I purchased nexon ev facelift empowered LR after seeing your 10000 km video . Today my car touched 10k . It’s a fantastic vehicle .
But I must say the service from Tata is substandard, unorganised and left a lot of to be desired . Did you face the same ?
Hopefully all metrocities will have dedicated EV dealer in few years then issue will be resolved
I own a Tata Nexon EV max, 1 year old. My experience so far is pathetic. I have clocked 15000 kms so far, and every 1000-1200km the car needs to be taken to service centre for various body noise. It has multiple issue with body wrt wielding of metal parts (those were missing).
20+ times service visit including 3 times visit from Tata plant engineers. Still there is no solution.
Apart from this car mount issue, HV critical error are more common issue.
I will recommend EVs but not from Tata, other brands dont have BMS and HV critical issue (as prominent as Tata).
He won't talk about these issues ever in a promotional video. This is just Tata doing the best theatrics.
@@sufiyanadam that right. Even Gagan Choudhury is also silent after his tour to Tata Sanand Factory. Its expected from them as its their bread and butter. But I am doing my job to educate the fact about EV.
@@udayabhanupradhan Keep it up, everyone has bias, some people are paid money to shut up while others are paid to boast about how good a particular product is and these reviews, impressions it all feels like marketing.
As a consumer and a viewer, I do not appreciate the dishonesty.
Where are you nowadays sir
Not posting any videos
Some videos are coming after time
Missing your videos
I am using Nexon 2021 clocked 54k. But gives low performance mode in 30% soc. The voltage diff between low to high is high > 750 mV. Cell Balancer is not fully functional?. I can effectively use 30-100% is 20kw out is 30kw . Hence effective range is limited to 140-160 km. So many Nexon faces the same issue . Tata never bothers about it. There may be manual provision to initiate cell balancing and details of cells to customers. Please take up this with TATA .
EVs are super silent and jerk free. Love that of EVs. But my fear of buying an EV is that after I buy, very soon the battery prices may drop or new technologies may be created, which will reduce the value of my investment a lot.
Please note that, the replacement of battery wont be done with a new one. It will be a refurbished one, with only some cells replaced.
Range anxiety will not bother you if running is just in the city BUT if you are planning to take it on trips then beware you will suffer. No public charging infra available , its only there in major Metros and nearby areas but still most of the country doesnt have it .
even if they have public chargers they are of poor quality , how? thanks to indian janta , people tend to ruin them, some have broker sockets, wiring is loose etc etc.
Ranjit ji i recently bought xuv400 but there as advertised 456 km and as shown 280 km i only get 200-230 km in Mohali, the company is not ready to listen, can you please help or shall I sell it and move back to ice as instead of range anxiety, it's the battery which looks in bad condition which the company is not ready to accept
@@viksb03 what is your wh/km? Avg trip speed? Which mode? Using L mode or not?
Try changing your driving style. Use light foot acceleration. Range will surely go upto 280-300 minimum.
What is the second channel? earlier we can see in the channels tab but that tab is missing.
Geeky ranjit rides
Can I consider s23 ultra used at 59k scratch less condi😢please reply
Yes you should
Why aren't you making videos nowadays? What are you doing currently?
I have driven my CNG Car 800 KM in day with a 6 hours break in between. So it would give me range anxiety given the fact I live in NCR and I often go to Jaipur which is approx 290 KM. So very close call.
There are multiple chargers on Delhi Jaipur route
@@shresthsonkar9207 You seemed miss my point. I don't want to stop anywhere and charge it even for 30 mins. In India Charging network is hardly reliable. Moreover their commercial electricity tariff puts the per KM cost at par with CNG vehicle.
@@manojgail I did 450km trip last week
2 charger stops (breakfast and lunch)
From home : 30kWh (full)
1st stop : 15.7kWh (30min) ₹334
2nd stop : 17.5kWh (45min) ₹367
Total energy used = 63kWh
Distance = 450km (₹701)
Distance remaining at end of trip : 80km
Total ₹/km = 1.32 (700/530)
I don’t know which cng car gives you ₹1.3/km but dream on. Maybe you don’t need to stop for food but normal ppl with family do stop.
Even if I didn’t have solar and normal home charging at ₹10/kWh, that would be still ₹1000 for whole trip, ie ₹1.9/km
Again, unless you are driving like granny and holding up the traffic for the rest of us cruising at 80kmph, I don’t think you can get ₹2/km in cng.
Also, cng range is also ~150-200km only, so if you actually really want to take advantage of low cng price, you have to keep looking for cng pumps on the way and stop every 200km just like EV or simply use petrol but then you aren’t really saving by driving cng car on petrol.
How much would the battery drain in city, if you keep getting stuck in traffic, Bangalore has humongous traffic.
EV's are more efficient in traffic then ice, u can chill with conditioned cabin without vibration and without worrying about idle fuel consumption all thanks to regenerative braking.
@srikard1564 Regenerative braking has nothing to do with idle power consumption. The higher efficiency is because there's no engine running and consuming petrol just to keep the engine running. EVs on the other hand directly consume battery power regardless of running or idling...so there's no wastage of energy just to get the engine to run
@@vinodk9123 highway load when idle is hvac which is 500-750W of power
You can run hvac for 60h while stuck in traffic for the EV to get fully discharged.
If you are stuck in traffic for 60h, a discharged EV is going to be the least of your problems
@@GokulRG regen braking recovers energy wasted as heat in brake pads of ice cars by using the motor as generator to slow down.
The biggest drain when idle in EV is hvac system using 500-750W. In ice car you have the same hvac system but lower efficiency because it is belt driven not electrically driven compressor like in case of EV
So ice car will spend fuel not only on maintaining idle rpm (1000rpm say) but also on running ac.
EV does not send any power to motor when it is not moving. If motor is getting power that means EV is moving. There is only one energy drain ie hvac
Would all of this apply to MG Commet?
I have 4Kwh load on my house and I am planning to buy an EV in a few years time. I would like to charge it on Solar, thus I would love to know as to what capacity of Solar plant would suffice for an EV? I know this has some variables like the running. Still an average answer would definitely help me get an idea around it. Thank you.
4-5kwh solar would be fine
It depends on the type of charger you install, if you setup a 7.2 K or 11 Kw fast AC charger load would be slight more than the the charger.
I have a 3.3 Kw Slow charger and my sanctioned load is right now 5 Kw, to adjust for car charger, 2 ACs and Water Motor and all other appliances.
@@deepjyotistories minimum 5kW solar is needed. Also get meter load increased to 7-10kW in case you are planning to use 7kW charger instead of 3kW
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Essentially after the battery warranty is over, it's just your luck. Purely depends on the quality of battery used by Tata. It can change from batch to batch. If by chance, your battery loses steam after the warranty period is over, your car will be a brick. Too expensive to fix and nobody will buy it without fixing a new battery.
Tata's responses are so vague. You can always say present cost of battery or the present cost of a cell. All that information are kept confidential which seems so fishy.
Regarding resale value, the answer given by Ranjit was vague. If going by the reports of several established auto journalists, resale value of these may plumment to such an extent that the savings achieved in fuel may be negated for anyone other than extremely heavy user. A lot of it is a bit of a question mark.
Also, the long distance travelling is extremely stressfull. App may be there for showing chargers but most of those chargers would be in use when we reach there and it's not like they will vacate the charger in 5 or 10 mins, you'll be stuck there most of the time. A lot of chargers are also in a defective condition.
Also, I have watched a lot of breakdown videos of several Tata EVs. All of them can't be fake.
So, its not a smooth creamy experience as Ranjith is advertising. If you're doing a detailed video, kindly include the cons and disclaimers.
Was expecting much better review than this
This is happening because evs r not selling huge discounts offered by tata but still vehicles r queuing up at dealerships huge inventory due to unreliable tata ev s. Even 2023 manufactured r available on some dealerships.
That’s happening for all vehicles since in June almost every brand had negative growth yoy and mom
Not just EV
Please check all sales stats and stop reading only headlines which are manufactured for maximum virality, minimal info
If battery prices get cheaper with time, would EVs get cheaper too in future?
Tata guys cheekily avoided the cost of battery when it needs to be replaced.
Haha, what do you expect of them? Telling the truth? No way!
very helpful video Sir, big fan of you :)
sir I am not happy or satisfied with some answers u gave me, since I am a ev owner some facts are biased and diplomatic. your information is very common for ev owners, and non ev owners might find intrested though. we will still appreciate if u consider sharing actual battery replacement cost, and other major questions. tata sc gives their customers high hopes and they also give biased and diplomatic answers like u gave. 😅
I am a Tiago ev owner. Tata evs are a good begining for our country-but overall quality and reliability can not be compared with chinese evs. I feel chinese evs should be allowed entry in India so that Indian manufacturers tighten their belts and with time give us better products. Let us not repeat the mistake we did by protecting ambassador and Fiat for 40 years. Presently Tata evs have lot of problems including random hv critical error and battery replacement. SCs do not have infrastructure to cope with this resulting in painful delays in repair time.
Excellent video but missed out on few key points which can be misleading for new buyers:
1. EV DC charging time is not equal to time taken to fill fuel. Suppose your car is running low on battery and you reach the nearest charger and already 2ppl are in queue. You will have to waste nearly 2-3hrs of your valuable time. Imagine travelling with family and kids.
2. Batteries are harmful for environment both while manufacturing and disposing. Not everyone has an individual house to install Solar - most ppl still stay in apartments without such provisions. Electricity still comes from burning coal. A very small % is actually green.
3. Tata service sucks! Either the service centre near your house is really good OR you are lucky enough not to have encountered any issues yet. Even if you get any issue, I am sure Tata might be quick enough to resolve them as you are an influencer. Imagine the plight of normal ppl.
4. EV vehicles rely mostly on software and tech. More prone to issues, breakdowns and bugs which cannot be rectified by local mechanics.
5. I am not sure how you calculated initial cost of EV. I am clearly seeing a difference in pricing of 4.5 lakhs between the top end models. If Nexon Petrol DCA gives 12kmpl mileage, one could travel approx 50k kms by burning fuel worth 4.5 lakhs. EV owners pay this cost upfront while purchasing the car and on top of this, they spend on charging their vehicle and maintainance too after the purchase!
6. Resale value of EV is much lesser than ICE engines as there are no moving parts like engine, etc.
@@aksplod > Suppose your car is running low on battery and you reach the nearest charger and already 2ppl are in queue.
Number of ev’s in India is quite low, in fact only 1% of ICE cars go to highway, for EV its even lower.
Many places have dual gun charger two EV charge simultaneously
On busy routes, you will find multiple chargers in span of few km or even at same hotel or restaurant
> 2. Batteries are harmful for environment both while manufacturing and disposing.
So does extraction refining and transport of oil. In fact battery production is one time job, oil is done for every litre that you consume.
>Electricity still comes from burning coal. A very small % is actually green.
Did you watch the video?
This was addressed already yet you say he missed this
Almost 40% of energy is green only 60% is fossil fuel. In ICE car be it hybrid cng or petrol diesel, all use 100% fossil fuel. Further, the electricity production is from coal mines in India, while 80% of the oil in India is imported from countries which then use it to fund violent activities
> EV vehicles rely mostly on software and tech.
You are free to take modern ECU driven ICE car to roadside mechanic and see if he can fix it. The lack of upskilling of roadside mechanics hasn’t stopped ppl from buying advanced cars.
If you fear so much, either take RSA service in your insurance or just don’t buy a car altogether because it is prone to breakdown. Just see how many diesel cars get bricked due to dpf and low adlblue
> I am not sure how you calculated initial cost of EV. I am clearly seeing a difference in pricing of 4.5 lakhs between the top end models.
Because EV offers one extra top model than ICE. On EV it is empowered while on ice it is fearless.
Lowest EV and ice is creative and mid is fearless (which is top for ice model)
Either compare creative ice to creative EV or fearless ice to fearless EV
> charging their vehicle and maintainance too after the purchase!
EV servicing is half of ICE and charging cost is 1/10th
> Resale value of EV is much lesser than ICE engines as there are no moving parts like engine, etc.
What kind of logic is this that more moving parts = more resale?
Gottta be the most dumb excuse I’ve heard in a while
@@shresthsonkar9207 looks like you are an EV owner.. Try to satisfy yourself by justifying your purchase with these excuses.. Good luck 👍👌
@@aksplod nice dodging, care to read first
Reply to each point if you have answer, it’s obvious you don’t thus the dodgy reply
It is higher.. uf you are not driving it more then 80kms per day