"Your truest friends are the ones who defend you when you're not around" Obi Wan was truly Anakin's friend, the fact Anakin couldn't see that when he turned is sad
I always marveled at the backround of scenes in the prequels. The clones that are stationed on that base and the wookies, all of them are chilling and getting equipment together to transport on their next mission. It is fascinating to me and I want to see more of it. The backrounds leave so many questions, I want to see more of it.
One of my favorite scenes in the prequels...you get a sense of the evil that is in the ambiance. The culmination of the Siths efforts to take over, is brewing.
That's one of my favorite aspects of Revenge of the Sith, the lingering foreboding atmosphere of the film. Revenge of the Sith honestly might have the best moods/atmospheres of the entire saga. So many complex and interesting tones in the scenes
I noticed the similarity / reversal of the trio's Ep II conversation Episode II: Anakin is sent on a assignment Obi-Wan is skeptical Mace Windu and Yoda are confident in Anakin Episode III: Anakin is sent on a assignment Obi-Wan is confident in Anakin Mace Windu and Yoda are skeptical Goes to show how much has happened during the Clone Wars that drastically changed their opinions
I love this scene because of the scenery's symbolism. The Jedi are riding in the gunships, meaning they are in the thick of things, and the sun setting especially, as it approaches nightfall, so does the end of the jedi
It was actually sunrise, before Obi Wan departs for Upatu. The final Coruscant “sunset on the republic” is when Anakin is in the council chambers, weighing things in his heart about padme when he finally decides to make for Palpatine’s office. (Both Padme and Anakin are looking out the windows at the sunset)
"He will not let me down. He never has...Oh, except for that time he attacked Dooku by himself and nearly got us both killed." Lol ;) I like how Obi-Wan sounds so much like Qui-gon here.
@@mikeyhassan6060 You are correct. But as awesome as Pac was, it's hard to imagine him as Mace Windu coming up as a hardcore rapper. On the other hand, he was kind of poetic and philisophical, maybe he could have done something special with the role?
They all misread it all the Jedi including Yoda were arrogant thinking that for “balance to be restored” the dark side must be destroyed but don’t realized that dark and light have to exist anakin in a way did bring balance just not in the Jedi’s favor by extinguishing al the light and have some force sensitive people out there
@@bryanperez4061exactly Corrupt Jedis are numerous, while the small numbered Siths are the ones that are religious in the Force? The prophecy basically said for Anakin to balanced it out, by trimming the Jedi in number, and then cleansed the Sith, so Luke can start over
I think this was the point where Obi-Wan finally understood why were Qui-Gon had fights with the Council. He really need his master's wisdom now in this situation.
The level of worry in mace and yoda’s voices is unreal. They know this goes one way or another. Obi wan tries his best to seek reason but he had already started down the dark path at that time
There's some wonderful stuff in Stover's novel. I may be paraphrasing but Kenobi and Yoda talk about if ending the war tomorrow meant killing each other, they would do it EXCEPT Anakin. Kenobi says 'Anakin is loyal to people - not principles.' Something like that. I love that part! Basically, Anakin is fiercely loyal and expects loyalty in return. I don't think the Council showed him any kind of loyalty. He felt the Jedi were using him. At least Palpatine LISTENED to him.
Palpatine "listened" to Anakin only to learn how he could use him for his own purpose, which was to rule the galaxy. He regarded Anakin expendable just like Dooku, and was willing to sacrifise him at the end of Episode VI when he saw a better replacement in Luke.
Which is not the Jedi way, he's operating completely opposite of the Jedi way but he gets away with a lot because of "the prophecy". He consistently given a longer leash than others because it's as though they think, "What's the worst that could happen? He'll figure it all out eventually as he gets older." They have no idea what's brewing in the background, though.
@@fitnessfan1529 Palpatine utilized the tactics of a proper predator. He isolated Anakin from his other peers, played on his vulnerabilities and insecurities, fostered his mistrust of the Council, put him in situations that intensified that mistrust.
This was a BIG mistake made by the Jedi. You NEVER put someone as emotionally immature and volatile as Anakin in the role of a double agent. They asked for trouble. It was good that this "assignment" was kept off the record. They must've known this could blow up in their faces.
Because that would defeat the object of forming as few personal attachments as possible. This was the very path to the dark side for Anakin. Besides, Shmi didn't need "saving" all that time. She eventually got married and was happy. Apparently it was Dooku that arranged the kidnapping of Shmi to set things in motion. If Anakin had truly learned to let go, he couldn't be manipulated in this way.
You can tell none of them was happy about the future but do not know what else to do at this point that would not simply make things even worse. Palpatine was very clever putting the Jedi in a no-escape situation.
The Jedi were assholes. They are partly to blame for Anakin's turn. After watching TCW, I never looked at the Jedi the same way. Obi-Wan was the only one that truly believed in Anakin. So sad.
assholes they were but wrong they were not. Destiny it was that of anakin's, lord vader meant to be. Dark Lord did he destroyed in the end. Prophecised did it become of his destiny to bring balance to the force if he had not cross over to the dark side in the first place
chav if you are trying to speak like yoda, try learning japanese and you will notice that yoda constructs his sentences in english as if he was speaking in japanese “order of words, etc”
Even though Anakin turned to the darkside. I like that Obi Wan stood up for Anakin, while the 2 old fools was talking shit. It shows Obi Wan cares about Anakin
Ninj Yang Productions republic loves Anakin padme loves Anakin obi wan loves Anakin ashoka love Anakin qui gon love Anakin not the whole Jedi bull crap
This is so funny that in the second movie mace told obi stop doubting ani and have faith in your own padawan and in the third movie its opposite roles lol
Two vastly different situations Anakin was tasked with defending a senator as a Padawan now he’s much stronger and basically in bed with a sketchy old career politician who has enough political power to shift galactic history. But I get what you’re coming from in a way it doesn’t make much sense for him to be okay with either situation.
@@thegreatid3595 a large amount of star wars fans told me that mace is jealous, afraid of Anakin and hates him ever since he met him as a child... So i never assumed mace would be so kind towards Anakin.
There's actually a truth in that Obi-Wan, for all his flaws, knows Anakin well enough to understand him and mentoring. In Episode II, Anakin was admittedly very unstable and cocky, and while his fighting skills are top notch, his overconfidence undid him. After that Anakin (though not without missteps) managed to be much more mature and understanding during the Clone Wars. Plus, Anakin's confusion and unstability had different groundings, rather than mere cockiness, is having trust and companionship issues, which is why Obi-Wan objects about sending Anakin to spy the shady chancellor. Obi-Wan knows Anakin is vulnerable, but by Episode III he does believe Anakin cold be a great Jedi if he's just fostered the right way, as their final farewell before the falling ot is something to go with.
I believe this scene really shows the de facto “trifecta” leadership of the Jedi order to basically Obi-wan, Mace, and Yoda. Had the Jedi been successful is overthrowing the Emporer and the corruption in the senate these 3 Jedi would be the most powerful masters in the galaxy. I believe the rest of the council was not aware of Anakins assignment. The assignment was most likely procured but Mace and supported by Yoda and pushed to Obiwan to offer to Anakin. It really minimized the Jedi order and made the council look less than equal parts. I believe the Emporer foresaw this before Yoda which gave him the advantage because of his constant close contact with Anakin.
Ahsoka and Obi-Wan got Anakin’s back, but unlike Ahsoka who doesn’t trust the Council, Obi-Wan had to do his duties for what’s best for the Jedi and the Council
The defiance the Jedi concil had towards Anakin is the main reason for him turning to the dark side. They did nothing to understand him. They were already behaving like this when he was only a 9 years old boy. They were blinded by their arrogance. Instead of trying to help Anakin, they let him down. Instead of trying to understand him, they rejected him. Obi-Wan also had his part in Anakin's fall. He wasn't the right master for him. He was a friend, but not the master he needed.
VegnaChaos 86 Palpatine would’ve made sure Qui gin died though. Everyone Anakin has that was keeping him in the light Palpatine took care of. He used Padmé to his advantage and made him turn against and duel his master. I doubt it would’ve been different with Qui-Gon.
Up to that point, he gave Obi-Wan no reason to believe he’d let him down. They were galactic war heroes and best friends. As Anakin said in the show, he is not Obi-Wan’s failure, he made his own decisions on what path he would follow. I think that distinction is extremely important when discussing his character, because prior to Anakin taking responsibility everyone assumed he lived his Vader days in constant regret.
Obiwan was a big brother to his fellow orphan brother who both have compelling different views due to one being raised with human emotions and the other was trained since being a youngling
@@Shawn-363 wasn't that Yoda"s point in this scene. The Jedi misread the prophecy in their arrogance of thinking that they would remained unchanged. How is that balance?
@@davemac9563 right! Vader's sacrifice didn't do anything to bring balance to the force -according to Disney- but brought only a temporary peace that lasted until Palpatine started making his moves "behind the courtains" and revealed himself again -in a very... strange way-. So... who actually fulfilled the prophecy? 🤔 has it been fulfilled yet? Just random thoughts..
Tippy Art Productions lol nope, that is the 41st Elite Corps, they were the ones in Kashyyyk ya dingus. Also the 104th wasn’t even a thing when EPIII came out. They were created for TCW.
U see if Anakin and Kenobi went to madalore as Maul intended this would’ve never happened, They probably would’ve caught maul and maul would’ve told them the knowledge they seeked
He did bring balance to the force, the Jedi our numbered the sith. So when anakin and the empire killed off most of the jedi. He did what the prophecy said.
The Jedi treated Anakin in the worst way possible. They went on about the 'Chosen One' prophecy stating that they only trained him cause of that + Midichlorian count but on the other hand they always distrusted him because of his lack of control on his emotions and quick temper. Recipe for disaster as you get a cocky unstable jedi with distrust towards the council.
Mace Windu should’ve trust Anakin for telling him Palpatine was a Sith Lord. Anakin was given the task to spy on Palpatine and when he finally did the job, He should’ve let Anakin join him with Kit Fisto and the other Jedi Masters to confront Palpatine. Mace Windu shouldn’t have attempt to kill Darth Sidious, he should’ve just cut off Sidious’s hands, and he would face trial. Anakin was right when he said “It’s not the Jedi way” to kill. All of this could’ve happen, if and only if, Mace Windu just trusted Anakin.
You know since the clone wars I began to wonder: did yoda consider anakin a friend? Funny how the order fell just bc it's leaders fail to help a boy who wanted to be free ( yet jedi denied him even that)
I don't think that's strictly true. Anakin wanted to be free, but he also wanted more than that. He wanted to be connected to others. This is what drives his reluctance to say goodbye to his mother, his lust for Padme and his surrogate father/son relationship with Palpatine. As a kind of measure against such emotions, the Jedi try to minimize those connections which can be exploited and lead them to the dark side. Anakin simply refused to curtail his emotions. He used them to get more powerful, but they were ultimately his downfall. Because he did the opposite of letting his mother go, he lost a piece of himself in that Tuskan slaughter. He fully indulged in his relationship with Padme. He exhibited a range of his emotions he couldn't control before the Clone Wars even started (love, fear, arrogance, anger, jealousy, hate, anxiety...). More than freedom, Anakin wanted power. His ambition started from a good place (of wanting to free people), to being personal (never wanting to lose people he loved), to being for the sake of power (because he felt he was entitled to it). I'm not sure how the Jedi could've stopped Anakin basically being who he was.
None of the Jedi except obi wan and qui Gon thought Anakin should've been accepted into the order. He was too old, he had mixed powerful emotions that distracted and ate at him, and obi wan was too inexperienced to have his own Padawan.
Obi Wan: Master Windu didn't his Astromechs save ur life Obi Wan: Master Yoda didn't he had your back when you went on that adventure to follow Qui Gons voice Obi Wan: let us not forget we expelled his innocent Padawan and he still remained loyal to us Yoda: yeah but Fuck that
@@abdulazimnaushad Obi Wan and Plo were the only ones who believed Ahsoka was innocent and plus she was off world with Anakin at the time of the bombing so that would of exonerated her
Yoda should have done SOMETHING when anakin and him spoke in private. That was a clear cry for help, and it revealed much potential for evil and alot of pain. He should have prepared or reacted with the help of other jedi or at the very least tried to help anakin out
What more could he have said ? He basically told anakin stop letting your fear control your thoughts and train your mind to let go of the things you fear to lose there’s so many ways that he could’ve interpreted that but I definitely understood yodas point.
Nah. Yoda actually cared about and trusted Anakin to some degree, but not to the extent like Obi-Wan or Ahsoka. I mean Yoda was the very Jedi who knighted Anakin, he was the Jedi who assigned a padawan to Anakin and tried to help him learn to let go via his mentorship of her. Also Anakin trusted Yoda to a degree as well. He had Yoda's back when he went on a spiritual journey after learning of Qui-Gon's becoming one with the force. Also remember when Anakin had his nightmares about Padme he went to Yoda for help, showing the degree of trust he had in him, even though Anakin felt dissatisfied and upset by Yoda's words.
The blindness of the Jedis at full display here, relying on the prophecy instead of their feeling. This being the reason why Qui-Gon would distance himself from the current jedi teachings.
WHAT? Qui-Gon was relying on nothing but prophecy when he brought Anakin to the council in the first place. He was going to disregard them on training Anakin. I don't know how it would've turned out but Qui-Gon didn't have to deal with the situation they were in. War and politics weren't on the Jedi to-do list. They were manipulated by the master manipulator who engineered a war where he controlled both armies and propaganda. I'm not sure how Qui-Gon would've navigated those waters.
Obi-Wan: "With all due respect Master, is he not the ch-" Windu: "I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GOTDAMN THING!.......................... you were saying?"
I really would like if they made a what if movie/trilogy where Anakin doesn’t turn to the dark side. Growing up watching specially clone wars made me really attached to Anakin, I loved the relationship he developed with obi wan and all other characters, I loved the romance he had with padme and how much he cared for her, it really broke my heart how things ended for him, although I don’t really trust Disney after what they did in the sequels
Only if Yoda and mace treated Anakin like he was one of the master jedi, which he certainly had the credentials and skills to be, the sith would never have taken over again. They literally watched him grow up in the temple, how could you not treat him with more love and affection for goodness sake. I get very emotional when my preschoolers graduate and move on each year and I only spend around 10 months with them!
Man if anakin hadn't pulled up on mace windu putting work in on Sidius he could have had a happy life instead of being a cringe, angry , monster and had a life with padme but noooooo dummy had to go and ruin his chances being naive.
Windoo: It's very dangerous putting them together Obi Wan: so will put them together then? Yoda: the Darkside clouds everything, yeah put them together we will.
Unorthodox being: Wanting to save the lives of his fellow clone troopers and jedi alike. At least according to the clone wars, he disobeyed orders along with ahsoka to rescue plenty of jedi and clones. The jedi order would have left most of them for dead.
That was not balanced, yoda had only a few more years of life he died 25 years after revenge of the sith, obi wan was not even close to Vaders power, he barely defeated Anakin in revenge of the sith. Thats not balanced, 2-2 its not the balance
I really never understand what the Jedi Order would have done if Anakin revealed he was with Padme? Boot him out? He's one of the most powerful people in the Galaxy.
True, he was too much of an asset in the war and too popular for them to kick him out during the clone wars, I think they would’ve done it after the clone wars if they wanted to kick him out of the order for breaking the code
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"Your truest friends are the ones who defend you when you're not around" Obi Wan was truly Anakin's friend, the fact Anakin couldn't see that when he turned is sad
Obi Wan was the only Jedi master who always stood up for Anakin
qui gon too
Cringy Autist ashoka and padme
not in episode I
And Ahsoka. However, as Maul put it, she was only a part-timer.
UltronicPlasma but hey there family to him everyone the Jedi except obi wan doesn't care for him
I always marveled at the backround of scenes in the prequels. The clones that are stationed on that base and the wookies, all of them are chilling and getting equipment together to transport on their next mission. It is fascinating to me and I want to see more of it. The backrounds leave so many questions, I want to see more of it.
Boba Fett agree
Watch the clone wars series
I feel you man. Love the atmosphere of this movie and the atmosphere of the prequel era in general.
But all the backgrounds in this movie are terrible looking cartoons. They break the immersion more than world build because of how shit they look.
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I grew up with these movie, therefore it doesn’t bother me that much.
One of my favorite scenes in the prequels...you get a sense of the evil that is in the ambiance. The culmination of the Siths efforts to take over, is brewing.
+Williwo Man Because screw reason.
That's actually Emperor Palpatine's theme that you hear at 0:32.
@@ichhabegenug7865 which is what makes it even more powerful. Even though we knew what would happen...the tension was just amazing
That’s the part where the Jedi get screwed and evil trying to take over
That's one of my favorite aspects of Revenge of the Sith, the lingering foreboding atmosphere of the film. Revenge of the Sith honestly might have the best moods/atmospheres of the entire saga. So many complex and interesting tones in the scenes
I noticed the similarity / reversal of the trio's Ep II conversation
Episode II:
Anakin is sent on a assignment
Obi-Wan is skeptical
Mace Windu and Yoda are confident in Anakin
Episode III:
Anakin is sent on a assignment
Obi-Wan is confident in Anakin
Mace Windu and Yoda are skeptical
Goes to show how much has happened during the Clone Wars that drastically changed their opinions
Oh, man. That's a good point.
I actually kinda noticed that, too.
Oh wow I never picked up on that.
Wow there is a switch in confidence
How the tables have turned
I love this scene because of the scenery's symbolism. The Jedi are riding in the gunships, meaning they are in the thick of things, and the sun setting especially, as it approaches nightfall, so does the end of the jedi
Good eye!
I think it was a morning.
I think you're overestimating George Lucas here. given how shitty his films are, I highly doubt he had such imagery in mind
@@chriskindler10 nah, revenge of the sith has a lot of symbolism like this one through all the movie
It was actually sunrise, before Obi Wan departs for Upatu.
The final Coruscant “sunset on the republic” is when Anakin is in the council chambers, weighing things in his heart about padme when he finally decides to make for Palpatine’s office.
(Both Padme and Anakin are looking out the windows at the sunset)
"he won't let me down, he never has."...proceeds to let him down massively.
Imagine being those 2 clones behind them listening thinkin…”ahh sheeeet Mace droppin shade on skywalker 👀, Rex gonna wanna hear this”
"He will not let me down. He never has...Oh, except for that time he attacked Dooku by himself and nearly got us both killed." Lol ;) I like how Obi-Wan sounds so much like Qui-gon here.
*20 years later on the Death Star. Obi wan-I guess he let me down.
Writing4Jesus and when he murdered a whole Tuskan Raider village
Writing4Jesus I mean he also saved him from getting killed in that same fight also.
In the novel after that discussion, he was also thinking, "How can Anakin trust us if we don't trust him?"
“He won’t let me down. He never has.”
Remembers Episode 2
Yeah about that
Samuel Jacksons facial expressions are gold in this scene. Its nice knowing a little piece of the Hood is in Star Wars.
Man stfu with these stereotypes sh!t
Fun fact tupac was originally supposed to play mace windu before his untimely death
@@mikeyhassan6060 No he don't passed the test.
Mace windu is probably the most serious character Samuel ever played
@@mikeyhassan6060 You are correct. But as awesome as Pac was, it's hard to imagine him as Mace Windu coming up as a hardcore rapper. On the other hand, he was kind of poetic and philisophical, maybe he could have done something special with the role?
I just noticed that at 0:32 after Yoda says "a prophecy that misread could have been" that Emperors theme subtly plays
A powerful and intimidating foreshadowing of the dark future that awaits ahead
They all misread it all the Jedi including Yoda were arrogant thinking that for “balance to be restored” the dark side must be destroyed but don’t realized that dark and light have to exist anakin in a way did bring balance just not in the Jedi’s favor by extinguishing al the light and have some force sensitive people out there
I’m abit late but the theme song was perfectly placed and I got shivers down my spine
@@bryanperez4061exactly
Corrupt Jedis are numerous, while the small numbered Siths are the ones that are religious in the Force?
The prophecy basically said for Anakin to balanced it out, by trimming the Jedi in number, and then cleansed the Sith, so Luke can start over
I think this was the point where Obi-Wan finally understood why were Qui-Gon had fights with the Council. He really need his master's wisdom now in this situation.
One of the most underappreciated scenes and one with the best climate. The tension starts piling up rapidly from this moment.
The level of worry in mace and yoda’s voices is unreal. They know this goes one way or another. Obi wan tries his best to seek reason but he had already started down the dark path at that time
There's some wonderful stuff in Stover's novel. I may be paraphrasing but Kenobi and Yoda talk about if ending the war tomorrow meant killing each other, they would do it EXCEPT Anakin. Kenobi says 'Anakin is loyal to people - not principles.' Something like that. I love that part! Basically, Anakin is fiercely loyal and expects loyalty in return. I don't think the Council showed him any kind of loyalty. He felt the Jedi were using him. At least Palpatine LISTENED to him.
Palpatine "listened" to Anakin only to learn how he could use him for his own purpose, which was to rule the galaxy. He regarded Anakin expendable just like Dooku, and was willing to sacrifise him at the end of Episode VI when he saw a better replacement in Luke.
@@fitnessfan1529 That's what palpatine does he replaces every apprentice to a stronger one.
Which is not the Jedi way, he's operating completely opposite of the Jedi way but he gets away with a lot because of "the prophecy". He consistently given a longer leash than others because it's as though they think, "What's the worst that could happen? He'll figure it all out eventually as he gets older." They have no idea what's brewing in the background, though.
@@fitnessfan1529 Palpatine utilized the tactics of a proper predator. He isolated Anakin from his other peers, played on his vulnerabilities and insecurities, fostered his mistrust of the Council, put him in situations that intensified that mistrust.
So in other words, Palpatine ruined Anakin’s life
This was a BIG mistake made by the Jedi. You NEVER put someone as emotionally immature and volatile as Anakin in the role of a double agent. They asked for trouble. It was good that this "assignment" was kept off the record. They must've known this could blow up in their faces.
"I don't trust him"
"I find your lack of faith disturbing" *Cuts his hand*
Obi Wan: He will not let me down. He never has
Mace Windu: Looks at him like BITCH PLEASE.
0:32 Windu face - funniest thing ever
Save his mother for 10 years we could have. Did not we did.
LOL wow that is actually so true
Because that would defeat the object of forming as few personal attachments as possible. This was the very path to the dark side for Anakin. Besides, Shmi didn't need "saving" all that time. She eventually got married and was happy. Apparently it was Dooku that arranged the kidnapping of Shmi to set things in motion. If Anakin had truly learned to let go, he couldn't be manipulated in this way.
I like how this discussion about their secret plan to spy on the chancellor is right in front of a couple clone troopers just looking out the door
You can tell none of them was happy about the future but do not know what else to do at this point that would not simply make things even worse. Palpatine was very clever putting the Jedi in a no-escape situation.
The Jedi were assholes. They are partly to blame for Anakin's turn. After watching TCW, I never looked at the Jedi the same way. Obi-Wan was the only one that truly believed in Anakin. So sad.
Mace deny him denied him everything
Over jealousy and bitch fits
assholes they were but wrong they were not. Destiny it was that of anakin's, lord vader meant to be. Dark Lord did he destroyed in the end. Prophecised did it become of his destiny to bring balance to the force if he had not cross over to the dark side in the first place
Trying to play Yoda I was...OR..prefer would you, on me playing jar jar instead?
Mesa big daddy angry...in big poo poo
chav if you are trying to speak like yoda, try learning japanese and you will notice that yoda constructs his sentences in english as if he was speaking in japanese “order of words, etc”
Even though Anakin turned to the darkside. I like that Obi Wan stood up for Anakin, while the 2 old fools was talking shit. It shows Obi Wan cares about Anakin
Made their last lines even more tragic.
Anakin was like a brother to obi wan
true!!! - BUT SADLY - THEY WERE RIGHT
Ninj Yang Productions republic loves Anakin padme loves Anakin obi wan loves Anakin ashoka love Anakin qui gon love Anakin not the whole Jedi bull crap
kathy m there bs because Anakin prove himself but no he killed a sith Lord and not a rank of master dumbass
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
0:33 I love the little head nod Mace gives. It's like, "You're damn right is was."
Windu, later on in the film: "I really wanted to be wrong about this."
Damn, it never gets old when Yoda speaks.
This is so funny that in the second movie mace told obi stop doubting ani and have faith in your own padawan and in the third movie its opposite roles lol
Two vastly different situations Anakin was tasked with defending a senator as a Padawan now he’s much stronger and basically in bed with a sketchy old career politician who has enough political power to shift galactic history.
But I get what you’re coming from in a way it doesn’t make much sense for him to be okay with either situation.
@@thegreatid3595 a large amount of star wars fans told me that mace is jealous, afraid of Anakin and hates him ever since he met him as a child... So i never assumed mace would be so kind towards Anakin.
There's actually a truth in that Obi-Wan, for all his flaws, knows Anakin well enough to understand him and mentoring.
In Episode II, Anakin was admittedly very unstable and cocky, and while his fighting skills are top notch, his overconfidence undid him.
After that Anakin (though not without missteps) managed to be much more mature and understanding during the Clone Wars. Plus, Anakin's confusion and unstability had different groundings, rather than mere cockiness, is having trust and companionship issues, which is why Obi-Wan objects about sending Anakin to spy the shady chancellor. Obi-Wan knows Anakin is vulnerable, but by Episode III he does believe Anakin cold be a great Jedi if he's just fostered the right way, as their final farewell before the falling ot is something to go with.
damnn they all knew he was dangerous
I believe this scene really shows the de facto “trifecta” leadership of the Jedi order to basically Obi-wan, Mace, and Yoda. Had the Jedi been successful is overthrowing the Emporer and the corruption in the senate these 3 Jedi would be the most powerful masters in the galaxy. I believe the rest of the council was not aware of Anakins assignment. The assignment was most likely procured but Mace and supported by Yoda and pushed to Obiwan to offer to Anakin. It really minimized the Jedi order and made the council look less than equal parts. I believe the Emporer foresaw this before Yoda which gave him the advantage because of his constant close contact with Anakin.
You really see the similarities. Obi wan was always on Anakin's side and would vouch and fight for him just like how Anakin did for Ahsoka.
Ahsoka and Obi-Wan got Anakin’s back, but unlike Ahsoka who doesn’t trust the Council, Obi-Wan had to do his duties for what’s best for the Jedi and the Council
That's why The Student and the Master always have an bond its Sacred
And then they act shook when Anakin turned.
The defiance the Jedi concil had towards Anakin is the main reason for him turning to the dark side. They did nothing to understand him.
They were already behaving like this when he was only a 9 years old boy. They were blinded by their arrogance. Instead of trying to help Anakin, they let him down. Instead of trying to understand him, they rejected him.
Obi-Wan also had his part in Anakin's fall. He wasn't the right master for him. He was a friend, but not the master he needed.
If Qui-gon didn't die i think he would of been his master and he would of helped Anakin become the jedi he should of been
VegnaChaos 86 Palpatine would’ve made sure Qui gin died though. Everyone Anakin has that was keeping him in the light Palpatine took care of. He used Padmé to his advantage and made him turn against and duel his master. I doubt it would’ve been different with Qui-Gon.
@@deku2949 Truth, Plagueis and Palpatine definitely feared Qui Gon more than any other Jedi, even Yoda
I want an alternate continuity trilogy where Qui-gon survives so badly.
Obi wan never defied the council. THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE. Qui Gon would've done something about Anakin and Padme
Obi wan was the only jedi master who always support anakin
Obi-Wan will never forget this conversation.
Up to that point, he gave Obi-Wan no reason to believe he’d let him down. They were galactic war heroes and best friends. As Anakin said in the show, he is not Obi-Wan’s failure, he made his own decisions on what path he would follow. I think that distinction is extremely important when discussing his character, because prior to Anakin taking responsibility everyone assumed he lived his Vader days in constant regret.
Obiwan was a big brother to his fellow orphan brother who both have compelling different views due to one being raised with human emotions and the other was trained since being a youngling
the prophecy was right. anakin indeed destroyed the light and the dark force by killing the emperor and the jedis.
The Jedi’s destruction is not a part of the prophecy according to George
Until Disney was like “hold my beer” to this prophecy
and non-force users on other planets using the death stars, oh wait-
@@Shawn-363 wasn't that Yoda"s point in this scene. The Jedi misread the prophecy in their arrogance of thinking that they would remained unchanged. How is that balance?
@@davemac9563 right! Vader's sacrifice didn't do anything to bring balance to the force -according to Disney- but brought only a temporary peace that lasted until Palpatine started making his moves "behind the courtains" and revealed himself again -in a very... strange way-. So... who actually fulfilled the prophecy? 🤔 has it been fulfilled yet?
Just random thoughts..
i like how windu is the first one who realized anakin's true face, even before yoda
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the fear of the jedi turned into the fear of Anakin which made him a sith
the fear, in the end, no matter who feels it, makes it all wrong
At least we get to see the Wolfe pack at the end
Tippy Art Productions lol nope, that is the 41st Elite Corps, they were the ones in Kashyyyk ya dingus. Also the 104th wasn’t even a thing when EPIII came out. They were created for TCW.
U see if Anakin and Kenobi went to madalore as Maul intended this would’ve never happened, They probably would’ve caught maul and maul would’ve told them the knowledge they seeked
I miss this old star wars feeling the prequels and originals gave us, the new Star wars films and shows are really lacking that feeling
And after all the hate prequels got.
That’s because the sequels aren’t old yet you ignorant child
At :37 pause Mace Windu's face
How did I never notice the BARC speeders arriving in the base until now?
0:23 ! Building in background looks like the later Imperial Med center/ Palpatines Med Center where anakin gets his „treatment“.
found the scene i was looking for
Mace windu : I don't trust him mother f-ucker.
He did bring balance to the force, the Jedi our numbered the sith. So when anakin and the empire killed off most of the jedi. He did what the prophecy said.
Fr I watched these so many times it’s like they created him they knew how powerful he was and knew he had anger in him they pushed him away
Those two clones in the back the whole trip: "Why do they get to sit down?"
The Jedi treated Anakin in the worst way possible. They went on about the 'Chosen One' prophecy stating that they only trained him cause of that + Midichlorian count but on the other hand they always distrusted him because of his lack of control on his emotions and quick temper.
Recipe for disaster as you get a cocky unstable jedi with distrust towards the council.
They really earned their fate
Disney: This isn't can-
Windu: I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GODDAMN THING
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“You were saying?”
Mace Windu should’ve trust Anakin for telling him Palpatine was a Sith Lord. Anakin was given the task to spy on Palpatine and when he finally did the job, He should’ve let Anakin join him with Kit Fisto and the other Jedi Masters to confront Palpatine. Mace Windu shouldn’t have attempt to kill Darth Sidious, he should’ve just cut off Sidious’s hands, and he would face trial. Anakin was right when he said “It’s not the Jedi way” to kill. All of this could’ve happen, if and only if, Mace Windu just trusted Anakin.
Anakin is the biggest rule breaker in the order he’s in no position to talk
My favorite part of this great scene is right after yoda speaks and mace windu nods like he already knew what was bouta happen
i love scenes that show the backgrounds of the war like in this one
I simply like clone trooper armor and the old Lego mini figures from ROTS are simply wonderful
You know since the clone wars I began to wonder: did yoda consider anakin a friend? Funny how the order fell just bc it's leaders fail to help a boy who wanted to be free ( yet jedi denied him even that)
I don't think that's strictly true. Anakin wanted to be free, but he also wanted more than that. He wanted to be connected to others. This is what drives his reluctance to say goodbye to his mother, his lust for Padme and his surrogate father/son relationship with Palpatine. As a kind of measure against such emotions, the Jedi try to minimize those connections which can be exploited and lead them to the dark side. Anakin simply refused to curtail his emotions. He used them to get more powerful, but they were ultimately his downfall. Because he did the opposite of letting his mother go, he lost a piece of himself in that Tuskan slaughter. He fully indulged in his relationship with Padme. He exhibited a range of his emotions he couldn't control before the Clone Wars even started (love, fear, arrogance, anger, jealousy, hate, anxiety...). More than freedom, Anakin wanted power. His ambition started from a good place (of wanting to free people), to being personal (never wanting to lose people he loved), to being for the sake of power (because he felt he was entitled to it). I'm not sure how the Jedi could've stopped Anakin basically being who he was.
None of the Jedi except obi wan and qui Gon thought Anakin should've been accepted into the order. He was too old, he had mixed powerful emotions that distracted and ate at him, and obi wan was too inexperienced to have his own Padawan.
Obi-wan words...
He formed an attachment.
Obi Wan was the only Jedi who was not jealous of the power Anakin possessed.
I am not brave for politics.
5 beers later = This Comment Section.
Obi Wan: Master Windu didn't his Astromechs save ur life
Obi Wan: Master Yoda didn't he had your back when you went on that adventure to follow Qui Gons voice
Obi Wan: let us not forget we expelled his innocent Padawan and he still remained loyal to us
Yoda: yeah but Fuck that
Yep they mistreated Ahsoka too which only made Anakin more angry.
@@abdulazimnaushad Obi Wan and Plo were the only ones who believed Ahsoka was innocent and plus she was off world with Anakin at the time of the bombing so that would of exonerated her
Reminder that anakin in fact did put an end to the sith by killing sideous.
0:40 They would've fallen out of the gunship 😂😂😂
The chosen one has fallen.
YODA💯🐐
Yoda should have done SOMETHING when anakin and him spoke in private. That was a clear cry for help, and it revealed much potential for evil and alot of pain. He should have prepared or reacted with the help of other jedi or at the very least tried to help anakin out
What more could he have said ? He basically told anakin stop letting your fear control your thoughts and train your mind to let go of the things you fear to lose there’s so many ways that he could’ve interpreted that but I definitely understood yodas point.
he was too much old, it was a mistake from qui gonn
''A prophecy that misread by Disney could have been.''
It is funny to think how some people believe that Yoda really cared about Anakin. He always felt as much contempt for him as Windu.
Even after Naboo, it was YODA who STILL didn't want to train Anakin.
He did not dislike Anakin he just wasn’t sure about him
Nah. Yoda actually cared about and trusted Anakin to some degree, but not to the extent like Obi-Wan or Ahsoka.
I mean Yoda was the very Jedi who knighted Anakin, he was the Jedi who assigned a padawan to Anakin and tried to help him learn to let go via his mentorship of her.
Also Anakin trusted Yoda to a degree as well.
He had Yoda's back when he went on a spiritual journey after learning of Qui-Gon's becoming one with the force.
Also remember when Anakin had his nightmares about Padme he went to Yoda for help, showing the degree of trust he had in him, even though Anakin felt dissatisfied and upset by Yoda's words.
Mace is partly responsible for anakins downfall.
No he isn’t. His words were completely true.
I can’t believe this movie will be 20 years old in 3 years
The blindness of the Jedis at full display here, relying on the prophecy instead of their feeling. This being the reason why Qui-Gon would distance himself from the current jedi teachings.
WHAT? Qui-Gon was relying on nothing but prophecy when he brought Anakin to the council in the first place. He was going to disregard them on training Anakin. I don't know how it would've turned out but Qui-Gon didn't have to deal with the situation they were in. War and politics weren't on the Jedi to-do list. They were manipulated by the master manipulator who engineered a war where he controlled both armies and propaganda. I'm not sure how Qui-Gon would've navigated those waters.
Obi-Wan: "With all due respect Master, is he not the ch-"
Windu: "I DONT REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GOTDAMN THING!.......................... you were saying?"
The crazy thing is the prophecy was misread by them, because even though Anakin did bring balance he did it in a way that the Jedi weren't expecting.
I really would like if they made a what if movie/trilogy where Anakin doesn’t turn to the dark side. Growing up watching specially clone wars made me really attached to Anakin, I loved the relationship he developed with obi wan and all other characters, I loved the romance he had with padme and how much he cared for her, it really broke my heart how things ended for him, although I don’t really trust Disney after what they did in the sequels
0:12 A alien brushing his hair😂
Only if Yoda and mace treated Anakin like he was one of the master jedi, which he certainly had the credentials and skills to be, the sith would never have taken over again. They literally watched him grow up in the temple, how could you not treat him with more love and affection for goodness sake. I get very emotional when my preschoolers graduate and move on each year and I only spend around 10 months with them!
Anakin was the kid in the other class that you barely knew or care about.
Chills
Man if anakin hadn't pulled up on mace windu putting work in on Sidius he could have had a happy life instead of being a cringe, angry , monster and had a life with padme but noooooo dummy had to go and ruin his chances being naive.
Mace: "I don't think the boy can handle it..."
Narrator: He did, indeed, not handle it.
Love how yoda slicks back his hair but he has none lmao
Windoo: It's very dangerous putting them together Obi Wan: so will put them together then? Yoda: the Darkside clouds everything, yeah put them together we will.
Windu was right as usual.
The goats
Obi wan you know what ive become....
Darth vader
He *really* *was* going to destroy the Sith and bring balance... just 3 episodes later, Yoda.
Obi one and Windu bought me food and drinks for the night lol
0:21-oh he will...
Along with all the jedi First
My favourite scene, this is
Bad movie taste, you have
@@antonimartinez9961 bullshit, you are
my too
He will not let me down....
Darth Vader: "ROFL!(heavy breathing) "
Yoda has watched all sequels.
According to this discussion, Disney throw the prophecy to the trashcan with the new trilogy...
The prophecy said the Sith would be destroyed... but it never said it would stay destroyed.
Wonder why anakin turn evil🤔 no trust
Panther123ism well you can't blame them. Anakin jedi's ways were unorthodox. He wasn't a normal to other Jedi.
he turned evil because he couldn't control his anger - and because he was selfish and arrogant
kathy m He turned to the dark side much more because of Padme. "The fear of lost is a path to the dark side"
Unorthodox being: Wanting to save the lives of his fellow clone troopers and jedi alike. At least according to the clone wars, he disobeyed orders along with ahsoka to rescue plenty of jedi and clones.
The jedi order would have left most of them for dead.
kathy m psh the Jedi order and the council is the be. Blamed as well
Anakin did bring balance to the force after he join the dark side, 2 sith ( Vader and the emperor ) and 2 Jedi ( yoda and obi)
That was not balanced, yoda had only a few more years of life he died 25 years after revenge of the sith, obi wan was not even close to Vaders power, he barely defeated Anakin in revenge of the sith. Thats not balanced, 2-2 its not the balance
@@filipecasanova6719 is way more balance than the ratio of 10,000 to 2 or 3 before order 66
Palpatine's prophecy is what Yoda is implying.
Is there anyplace in Star Wars lore where they give more background on "the prophecy" and what that's all about?
The Jedi try to bring peace, but they never actually spread their teachings to the common or poor folk, just those of high status.
They take in any force sensitive child, no matter race or class
No.one trusted anakin...the Jedi were to slow to see this coming
I really never understand what the Jedi Order would have done if Anakin revealed he was with Padme? Boot him out? He's one of the most powerful people in the Galaxy.
True, he was too much of an asset in the war and too popular for them to kick him out during the clone wars, I think they would’ve done it after the clone wars if they wanted to kick him out of the order for breaking the code
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
It was said you would destroy sith not join them