He was the best general the Republic had seen with Skywalker and took on Sith Lords and Greivous without a sweat. Only Dooku gave him trouble. Otherwise, he was nearly undefeated in battle.
Jane Rowley Not only was the story of the prequels already written before even shooting A New Hope, of course his story matches what happens in the movies. How are people so impressed by this? "Wow, it's like he already knew what was going to happen, like they just based the prequels on this scene". Yeah no shit, of course they're going to make the stories align, do people expect there to be gaping plotholes? Is that why this seems so amazing?
Guinness commanded a Landing Craft Infantry at the Allied invasion of Sicily in WWII. I bet he's drawing on those painful memories to give this scene weight.
Such a great actor! Shame he’s long gone now. He knew about Obi Wan long before even George Lucas did. He brought a lot of unexpected nobility into Ben Kenobi, so much so that George Lucas had to introduce Yoda in the next film.
When Obi-Wan said "and he was a good friend", Alec Guiness' acting was like he exactly remembered that scene on Mustafar. That's something beyond remarkable
Adam Plentl you’re right, not entirely. However, Lucas did write the general idea for the prequels. Things such as grievious, Dooku, and jango fett were created later on.
Alec guiness really acted like he knew everything from the prequels, he managed to make his character very deep without even knowing the story behind it
@@setoalgorytgm2748 No, he only knew the very basics, mostly what he says here, not even that Vader was Lukes father as that though was not even well, thought at that time.
@@theexchipmunk exactly all the stares into oblivion, the deep breaths, the snap backs to reality it's like hes fighting to get through every word and not break down in front of this kid when he could've just played it like a regular old man
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 obi wan feels like he failed anakin, because he couldnt keep him from going down a bad path. however i dont feel like he was talking about himself in that instance. anakin becoming a sith killed anakin, and birthed vader.
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174he felt like he failed his apprentice. He felt like the Jedi Order failed him, and really they did. They were blind to the machinations of Darth Sideous and how a wretched old man could warp the Republic into an Empire. He felt like by failing his padawan he had ultimately killed him.
@@domonchief Sir Alec had served in World War 2 for 3 years, including participating in the landing on Sicily. In addition, he starred in numerous war movies. He certainly had a wealth of experience to draw from to deliver this performance. I don't think there could've been a better choice of casting for Obi-Wan.
@@Ragtime_Tony if you heard the line “you served in the clone wars?” before watching or even hearing about the the tv show or anything about it in the prequels, then you probably thought “oh man I wonder what the clone wars were” or something like that.
uncanny how even though they didn't have the prequels yet, those memories were put in at the optimal time in order to make old Obi Wan's words carry more weight and pain
@@Byerly2k20 carrie fischers coke nail while prime harrison ford is betraying his wife on the set is all the lore anyone needs, anything beyond that is beating a dead horse
I’m glad I’m not the only one that it hurts too because honestly I could cry and it’s crazy that I know none of it is real but the feelings definitely are real
Obi Wan didn't kill his father though, lol. Luke's father killed Obi-Wan. Unless you mean killed in a metaphorical sense. In which case, Obi-Wan still didn't kill Luke's father.
@@tonywoods1226 Yeah, but...Anakin didn't die, so Obi-Wan couldn't have possibly killed him. He might've wanted to kill him, or let him die, but he was unsuccessful. So, I can't say any killing happened.
@@tonywoods1226 Let me just elaborate. What really happened is Anakin killed himself, when he decided to become Darth Vader. You might not agree with that statement, but I'm pretty sure that's what the movie was trying to show you.
I have no idea how Alec had the foresight to glare at R2 the way he initially does. Neither he nor Lucas knew at that point that Obi-wan and R2 had ever met, yet he still glares at R2 in annoyance for bringing the war to Luke and blowing years of covert existence.
Ive heard conflicting things. Many say lucas had the outlines of the full story before making the first movie in 1977. The lack of technology made it very difficult to create what he wanted so he had to start in the middke of the story, also he was only to make one movie at first by contract, so he had to scrap alot of it and try to make a movie that could stand on its own. But apperantly the arch of anakin falling and his children redeeming him was in the original script, not fully fleshed out. Idk what to believe lol
@@cognitivedisability9864 I thought it was pretty well known that Lucas didn't know that Vader was Luke's father until after the original was released? Or maybe he planned to tell the story of Darth Vader but not have him be Luke/Leia's dad?
The way Alec Guinness acts it almost seems like this was made after the prequels and he was told to act like he was remembering these specific moments from them. Great actor.
Lucas had a rough lore written out, he probably gave alec a little background of what obi wans origin was. Still amazing acting for what little he had.
@@mulberry8882 I will concede Lucas had the Lore but Alec Guinness fixed a lot of things. Supposedly the script was a lot more awkward and chunky before. If you want to know the difference watch the painful dialogue in the prequel trilogy vs the original trilogy.
I love how when Obi-Wan says “Don’t seem to remember ever owning a droid”, he’s talking to R2, or it looks that way. It looks as though there’s that sarcastic subtext of, “You and I both know I didn’t own you, we both know who did”
Passage of ownership is a little weird. R2 was a royal Naboo droid, but it's never explained how Anakin and Obi-Wan got ownership of him. I suspect Padme gave R2 to Anakin, but Obi-Wan likely became a co-owner given Anakin's age. With Anakin assumed dead on Mustafar and his wife dying in childbirth, either Obi-Wan and/or Leia would end up as R2. It all depends on laws and how droids are registered to their owner. It seems like merely possessing a droid doesn't automatically grant mastership similar to how the title to a car works. Regardless of the case, it's understandable to see how Obi-Wan might have been registered as R2's owner without knowing it. Or we might be looking into this too closely and that R2 is just lying, which possible given that R2 lied to Luke and C3P0 to trick Luke into removing the restraining bolt.
Luke : woops, my toast fell on the floor... :-( Obi-Wan : Darth Vador used to throw everyone's toast on the floor... the dark side once pushed him to kill your father's toast...
Well George Lucas was on set and he had most likely already thought of the entire story before he started making the prequels sooo... he probably already knew about the rough plot of the prequels. He’s still a great actor though
@@lancehitt0548 He actually did not plan on making prequels. He's said he wanted to continue Luke and everyone's story after the fall of The Empire but fans wanted to know how Darth Vader became Darth Vader, so he decided to go with the prequels.
It’s amazing how consistent George was with the timeline. The fact that he based Anakin’s downfall of off this one conversation and made it all match amazes me to this day. Disney has never put that much care into the franchise.
@@galaxyrider9599 and didn't his and Yoda's exile begin at the same time that Padmé gave birth and died? It was true until Disney came and messed up everything with their hot garbage of low effort shows.
@@carlosdgutierrez6570 obi says that anakin wanted to give luke his lightsaber. generally the prequels are trash and murder the original trilogy and thei continuity
Nah, we just accepted the term; we had heard of clones, knew what the word means. Also, even in 1977, it said, "Star Wars Episode 4" at the start of the scroll; I wanted to know where the first 3 episodes were. I learned in the book, "The Making of The Empire Strikes Back," that George Lucas had nine chapters in mind for the story.
It's crazy. When Luke says the name Obi-wan Kenobi, you can see the stress, emotional trauma, the PTSD of Kenobi in Sir Alec Guiness's face and eyes. And this was around 30 years before the prequels. Insane.
"He was the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior... And he was a good friend." These lines never hit me harder than with those flashbacks 😢
Lucas probably thought it was just a neat throwaway line. "What kind of war did his dad fight in? A Clone War? That sounds cool. Oh! The Clone WARS! That sounds even cooler." Dude probably didn't expect to spawn a whole damn 7 season cartoon.
Out of all the "before the dark times" video edits, this is STILL by far the BEST. Although some other versions are longer, with the flashbacks following a more linear recollection of events chronologically, that's not how memory works. Instead, our memories are episodic, segmented, and all appear out of order. This edit displays this fact perfectly. We remember things not in the way they have happened, but in how they made us feel. Words that trigger certain emotions, both of which you haven't heard nor experienced in years cause the most vivid yet random flashbulb images that penetrate the mind without any control of what you see or feel. Great video! Praise to Alec Guinness for the top tier performance. Man is suffering PTSD from movies that had yet to be released in 30 years.
Even though he was not fond of Star Wars...he really committed to giving it his best. That’s a good actor, almost like Mark Hamill learned from him. Even though he doesn’t like the new Disney films, he is giving his best.
I think what Mark Hamill thinks about the new Star Wars movies depends on which click-bait you are reading at that moment. Some articles use quotes taken completely out of context, and I don't believe he has ever said he didn't like the Last Jedi, just that initially he had some doubts *at scripting phase*! He later came out to say he considers TLJ a great movie. The context matters. If he really hated the movie it would have been extremely unprofessional of him to ciritize it during its marketing, no matter who you are.
One of the great things about the original Star Wars movies is their ability to make a simple conversation or even a single line hint at the fact there’s much more to this universe.
I Never really appreciated Alec Guiness' subtle acting until now. The way he pauses and thinks, the sadness in his eyes as if he actually lived through all this. Genius.
2:41 When Obi-Wan says "before the dark times" and you get a shot at Maul's hateful gaze I actually get chills sent down my spine. What an absolutely masterful edit!
@@AnomanderRevan shut the fuck up about your damn jokes. god nothing short of outright telling you laughed or got the joke will stop you from constantly peskering others about the fucking joke, Jesus Christ they can't even make a god damn statement without your annoying ass coming in all like "OMG IT-ITS A-A J-J-JO-JO-JOKE HAHAHAHA LOOK AT ME IM THE COMEDY GOD HAHAHAAH *snort* OMG like WHY SO SERIOUS????" just shut the fuck up for ONCE!
me: ... I shouldn't ... my meme side: DEW IT! "GENERAL PLEASE, HAVE A SEAT" "HELLO THERE" "ANAKIN WHEN i TELL YOU TO RUN, RUN!" "I LIKE YOUR NEW LEGS, THEY MAKE YOU LOOK TALLER" "SPINNING IS NOT FLYING" "AT LEAST YOUR A MASTER, AT GETTING CAUGHT" "SHOULD WE DISCUSS THE TERMS OF SURRENDER?" "WE WERE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR COUNT DOOKU" "WE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SHIP"
This is literally the best trailer i've ever seen. I showed it to all my friends and they agree. If the star wars movies was told like this, this would be on of the best masterpieces ever made
@@minti2355 Once he turned to the dark side Vader was ordered to hunt down remaining Jedi. He killed one, took his light saber, and turned the kyber crystal red with hatred.
2:22 is incredible. "Your father's... lightsaber." And then it flashes back to Anakin commiting a horrid war crime. That part of this video always just stabs me right in the feels.
@Mathew Alfonso-MillsTBH I kind of liked revenge of the sith, but the first two were really bad. To be fair, they did have a good story, but the terrible script ruined it for me. But to each their own I guess.
@@user-hf9hf6hw8j attack of the clones was horrible i will give you that. Phantom Menace is half garbage and half really good (good parts are Darthmaul duel and child anakins acting. legit for a child actor it was pretty damn impressive. and then i loved revenge of the sith. i think its a movie that is held back by clone wars. cause that movie was the setup to Anakins turn to darkside and they fucked it up. i think that if the setup was done actually well, then the movie would have been the second best starwars movie.
yeah seeing these clips weaved into those scenes made me see the nuances of his feelings for the first time...and I've seen a new hope 923842384938 times lol
First watching a New Hope, you kinda think he's overreacting and overacting in these scenes Then going back to it, you kinda do realize that Alec's acting is perfect after everything that happened in the prequels and the Clone Wars
Otakamerd Anakin doesn’t like sand for one reason. He lived on a planet that was all sand for years as a slave with his mother. He couldn’t free his mother from slavery and he couldn’t free himself without help. Seeing sand brings back bad memories. People just need to really listen to what the characters are saying and try to analyze what they are saying. Don’t be dumb and jump on the bandwagon. Actually think about what the characters are saying.
Obi Wan and Yoda were the only ones alive that knew who Vader was. It makes sense looking back that Obi Wan wouldn't give the information up to Luke too easily.
It is so cool to see how Ewan McGregor nailed Alec Guiness’ acting here, even the way he holds his chin when he’s deep in thought became a patented move of Obi-Wan over the years
It's really not that difficult. "You're an old veteran with PTSD . You've lived a long life and often take pauses between lines to reflect on old memories". He did a great job at acting this out, but at the same time it's not something incredibly difficult to do and everyone seems to be overacting about it.
@@LangugesLearning This. And also all the movies are based on books that existed before and I can imagine that it's only natural for actors to get to know as much as they know about their character so he probably read them before. People act as if no one knew anything about the story because the movies were not out
This edit actually truly makes sense. I understand that Alec Guinness is performance in A New Hope actually had nothing to do with any of these previous circumstances. But I always like to think that the long pauses in Alec Guinness's performance was always Obi-Wan reflecting. Come on Disney, stop screwing around and make Obi-Wan great again.
It isn't just the flashbacks, it's the absolutely incredible detail of how Alec's body language is. Seriously, look at how he moves and acts. The way how he stares into space, the way he takes a breath, the pause he takes before he speaks again, these little details he makes is what truly *sells* these flashbacks.
Yes, credit to Obi Wan's original actor for a great performance and credit to George Lucas for having the vision and foresight to nail what this scene is about in spirit long before the prequels were made... but also credit to the creator of this video for making a masterful mashup that really brings it all together in a convincing, natural, fluid, and emotionally powerful manner.
I'd argue Obi-Wan was one of the greatest Jedi to ever live, he had so many sad and horrible things happen to him in his life and he still remained a strong and capable master. Not once did he ever even show a chance of turning to the Dark Side. He had so many chances but never took the easy way out
Obi wan is the greatest jedi to have ever lived, and thats because anakin and quigon pushed him to be more than just a jedi. We’re shown early on from phantom that the order was flawed and unwilling to adapt/change.
The Story of Obi-wan is truly a... tragedy. He lost everyone that he loved and people who were around him. They keep haunting his dreams, yet he doesn’t succumb to the darkness of those. He used his own flaws to overcome the darkness.
The fact that he says Darth Vader killed Anakin, and not that Anakin is Darth Vader really says a lot more than just him covering up that he's Luke's father. That in his eyes, that really is the case. How poetic.
@Eredin Glas in return of the Jedi obi-wan as a ghost says to Luke that what he said about Vader killing his father was true from a certain point of view
@Eredin Glas that's from Empire, he tells Luke "Luke: You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father. Ben: You father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I have told you was true... from a certain point of view."
@@osmacar5331 You mean Lucas picked a random sci fi word to slap in front of "Wars", then figured out what clones had to do with anything 20 years later.
They say the old Obi-Wan actor was a WW2 veteran, and when he was talking about the Empire he was thinking of the Nazis. That's how he could make this scene so powerful.
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 which is why Vader was such a terrifying Sith Lord. In one comic he fights against a resurrected Darth Maul, and just as maul is about to win Vader ignites his own saber through his own chest to kill maul from behind him. Maul asked him “what could you hate enough to destroy me?” To which Vader responded “Myself”. Vader always refused to die, because deep down he felt he deserved to be punished to experience all this pain for what he had done. But the more anger and hate the more powerful in the dark side you become. The whole thing is such a Shakespearean tragedy.
@@ollie4425 It was actually heavily due to Kenobi's lack of attention to Anakin and his nightmares about Padme dying and him averting his attention from their relationship in the first place. But even beyond that Anakin needed Qui gon jinn to not die and remain his father figure, Kenobi couldn't do that he said it himself when he defeated Anakin "you were my brother Anakin". You realize that Palpatine entered the picture taking the place of a father like figure for him right?
One of the all time greats of acting. The pain and sorrow he captured as an old Ben Kenobi considering the clone wars wasn't even really thought of yet, was incredible. Such phenomenal unmatched talent.
Actors usually are just given notes about their characters, sometimes even great actors take that info and morph it into something of their own. George probably just told Alec Obi-wan was a jedi knight, who has seen war and the atrocities that come with it, he also saw the rise of The Empire and nearly avoided the extinction of the Jedi. His good friend, who was Darth Vader, betrayed him. So Alec being a genius actor understood what someone would feel going through all that and it showed in his performance still many years later.
Guinness was an amazing actor. Probably part of the reason he didn't like Star Wars as he seemed to think that playing a space wizard in a kids movie somehow tarnished his reputation.
Lucas said Guinness wanted to be in Star Wars because it was a fight of Good vs. Evil even when others told him to stay away from it. Never heard of Guinness saying he didn't like the movie and his role in it.
Well, yeah. According to the screenplay writer and choreographer of ROTS, Obi-Wan was an 8/10 in terms of power, while Yoda, Anakin and Sidious were alone in being a 9/10. That basically makes Obi-Wan one of the greatest Jedi of all time in terms of combat prowess alone, and that wasn't even his greatest virtue. The quote applies to him for sure.
As far as I know, Obi-Wan is the best at one of the lightsaber techniques and if I'm not lying to myself, that's the defensive one. He might have not been as force-sensitive as Anakin, but re-watch their battle and notice how Obi-Wan did not get hit once.
@@alonnie1919 Soresu, and he was not just 'a' master at it, but according to Master Windu, yes the guy who kicked Sidious' ass (confirmed by Lucas not to have been a ploy), Obi-Wan is 'THE' mater of Soresu. Only Master Yoda could hit him in combat, and he still struggled with it. If anyone wanted to hit Kenobi in battle they'd have to have either flawless Makashi, which is the fencing style and Dooku's style, or even more perfect Ataru, which is the acrobatic style and Yoda's style.
Man... the dialogue of the first movie was so good. I watched this edit 8 years ago when it first came out and it still holds up. Its amazing the story that Lucas was able to tell when you see it this way.
"He was the best Starfighter in the Galaxy, and a Cunning warrior and he was a good friend." Always gets me, hits even harder after watching Clone Wars.
There is something about the english accent that allows them to say "Tell me, young Luke..." without sounding awkward ... older english actors are perfect for jedi master roles ...
But it'd have a lot less weight without Lucas's great prequel trilogy. Imagine making such a thing and having people dislike it for years and years. Very sad.
Alec Guinness is still one of my favourite parts of the original movie to this day. The original Star Wars is the best IMO and although I love ESB, I more often go back to the original.
Let's not kid ourselves, there's still plenty of objective reason to dislike the Prequels for. They were heavily flawed films. But what they had over the Sequels is heart, and love for the story universe it waa set in. Even though I don't much care for the Prequels, and never had, I can still enjoy watching them with my nephews. The Sequels, however, were equal parts malicious, dismissive, and incompetence. They are terrible films.
@@beenjammin2118 I like to believe if it wasn't for the Clone Wars TV Show, Star Wars wouldn't have been strong as it is now. Clone Wars brought so much more life into the Star Wars Universe. If it weren't for Clone Wars, then Star Wars would be nothing but something that started as one of the best films from the sci-fi genre to another franchise that fell from grace.
"He died at the hands of then Senator and now Archchancellor Adam Sutler... Wait... Wrong villain. Then Senator and now Emperor, Palpatine, in a joint effort with sand people. And, in a way, an innocent girl called Padme. Remove any of the three influences from his life and who knows what he could have become. They are all equally to blame for his downfall." "Padme? Wait... My mother? How did she cause his death? They loved each other." "And without that distraction, without her always on his mind, he would have stayed on the straight and narrow road to becoming one of the great Jedi Masters of our time. And she would have been at the senate to cast her vote instead of leaving that brainless creature to destroy the Republic and cause the horror that is the Empire. Had it not been for their love, things would have been entirely different. We, Jedi Knights, remain celibate for a reason, Luke. We don't let emotions influence our actions. Try to remember that in the future, if you, when you hit around my age, were to meet a silly girl who wants you to teach her."
@mike bond then we won't have great characters like jango ,dooku ,yoda and obi wan ,sure it had flaws but its still a story that explains what happened
This is the best explanation I've ever seen of why Obi Wan told a "white lie" to Luke. Obi Wan simply didn't have the heart to tell young Luke the truth.
Technically it wasn't a lie, since it's now canon that Anakin and Vader are two different personalities. When Yoda said Anakin had been consumed by Darth Vader, he was telling the truth. Once he betrayed Mace, Vader became the dominant persona and Anakin was no longer in control of his actions.
Its the pauses that the creator added to this conversation with luke that made it that much more powerful. I'm a huge fan of story telling through flashbacks and this one is wonderful
What's really great is how Alec Guiness is telling Luke the story as if he knew that the Prequels would come some day and all of that would happen. There is some great "backwards-foreshadowing", if you wanna call it like that. Say what you want about the Prequels, but Lucas did some good planning.
Alec Guiness was a renowned actor at the time of IV and was the only name known by Hollywood. Lucas actually couldn’t afford him but Guiness agreed to tone movie in exchange for a cut of the profits because he read the script and knew it would be a hit
@@BenniRoR It's interesting you say that because I've always viewed this scene as one that kind of makes it seem like he really didn't have it all planned out from the beginning. I honestly think he changed the direction he wanted to go with these movies after A New Hope. I don't think Vader was originally supposed to be Luke's father and Luke and Leia definitely were not originally intended to be brother and sister. if you listen to some of the stuff he says about the clone wars it makes it seem like Anakin decided to fight and become a jedi much later in adulthood and that he knew Luke's uncle Owen way before that, but according to the prequels they really didn't have much interaction.
TEN MILLION VIEWS! Still can't believe this blew up. If you like this edit check out my other edits on the channel!
You rock, dude.
I like coming back and seeing this every now and then. It's such a good edit
It’s amazing mate thank you.
We love star wars and the story is one of the best ever told. It is still not finished.
This video is a masterpiece.
One of my favorites.
”You knew my father?”
”Yes, remarkable man. Flammable.”
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And hated sand too
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When he asked "you fought in the clone wars" he had no idea who he was talking to. This guy was the clone wars
he started the clone wars, quite litterally
He was the best general the Republic had seen with Skywalker and took on Sith Lords and Greivous without a sweat.
Only Dooku gave him trouble. Otherwise, he was nearly undefeated in battle.
It's like running into President Eisenhower and asking him if he was involved in World War II.
General Kenobi!
@@TemplarBlonic well yoda trained dooku well is why
He knew the plot of the prequels before they were made
He was literally sitting there speaking the outline of the prequel trilogy out loud
Faults but still received an oscar nomination for his portrayal. Legend.
roastedandsaltedcashews 69 the prequels were already planned before I think
The prequels were made just out of his words
Jane Rowley
Not only was the story of the prequels already written before even shooting A New Hope, of course his story matches what happens in the movies. How are people so impressed by this? "Wow, it's like he already knew what was going to happen, like they just based the prequels on this scene". Yeah no shit, of course they're going to make the stories align, do people expect there to be gaping plotholes? Is that why this seems so amazing?
Guinness commanded a Landing Craft Infantry at the Allied invasion of Sicily in WWII. I bet he's drawing on those painful memories to give this scene weight.
Such a great actor! Shame he’s long gone now. He knew about Obi Wan long before even George Lucas did. He brought a lot of unexpected nobility into Ben Kenobi, so much so that George Lucas had to introduce Yoda in the next film.
eh, probably not. Guinness famously hated star wars and phoned in the performance.
@@GameyRaccoon that was phoned in? Holy sh!t! That guy was an amazing actor!
@@kuldas9299 ikr?? One of the greatest of all time
@GameyRaccoon he didn't hate star wars he just hates the fact out of all the roles he played alot of people mostly knew him for Ben Kenobi
When Obi-Wan said "and he was a good friend", Alec Guiness' acting was like he exactly remembered that scene on Mustafar. That's something beyond remarkable
Doge Animations especially since the scene on Mustafar didn’t even exist back then. though George has already thought about it
Ikr
"And he was a good friend... shame I had to cut off his limbs..."
@@michaelwilson5114 "using forbidden move that dont suit jedi combat style, which makes that even more dramatic"
Yeah, George Lucas wrote the battle on mustafar before he wrote episode 4
The actor who did old obi wan Kenobi did this scene so well that it felt that the prequels came first then the original trilogy
Omar Helmy Sir Alec Guinness. Watch the Bridge on the River Kwai. Great film
@@PHILeeOPE I mean, the prequels were written before this movie, so I guess Lucas would've told him to act as if he lived through that time.
@@K.Y.L.E. no they weren't.
Adam Plentl you’re right, not entirely. However, Lucas did write the general idea for the prequels. Things such as grievious, Dooku, and jango fett were created later on.
@@dutcherboyd1757 You're correct. The broad strokes of the prequels were planned back then
Alec guiness really acted like he knew everything from the prequels, he managed to make his character very deep without even knowing the story behind it
He did know though
@@setoalgorytgm2748 No, he only knew the very basics, mostly what he says here, not even that Vader was Lukes father as that though was not even well, thought at that time.
@@theexchipmunk exactly all the stares into oblivion, the deep breaths, the snap backs to reality it's like hes fighting to get through every word and not break down in front of this kid when he could've just played it like a regular old man
Well it’s not like the prequels were made independent of these
@@chacesledge4185 yes but he is very deeply in the character without knowing what really happened
"He betrayed and murdered your father."
Sends chills up my spine every time...
could Obi-Wan not be talking about Vader... but instead himself?
does he think that he betrayed and then murdered Anakin...?
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 obi wan feels like he failed anakin, because he couldnt keep him from going down a bad path. however i dont feel like he was talking about himself in that instance. anakin becoming a sith killed anakin, and birthed vader.
For some reason I heard it in this edit as "betrayed and humiliated your father" and I thought that was a better line.
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174he felt like he failed his apprentice. He felt like the Jedi Order failed him, and really they did. They were blind to the machinations of Darth Sideous and how a wretched old man could warp the Republic into an Empire. He felt like by failing his padawan he had ultimately killed him.
Like Jedi and Sith are potential ,people that have 2 personalities, shaped by trauma. One gets out.
This just shows how good an actor Alec Guiness was. He makes us believe he is really having flashbacks to the movies that hadnt existed yet.
@John Wack glad it changed
@The Shadow Master He didn't tho.
His face really does have that mile-long stare that is most commonly associated with PTSD.
Timing is essential,,,
@@domonchief Sir Alec had served in World War 2 for 3 years, including participating in the landing on Sicily. In addition, he starred in numerous war movies. He certainly had a wealth of experience to draw from to deliver this performance. I don't think there could've been a better choice of casting for Obi-Wan.
“You fought in the Clone Wars” a simple line, made just to add mystery for the audience back in 1977, but oh man, oh man did it start something great.
Everyone: da fuq is clone wars
George Lucas: it’s a surprise tool that will help us later
Wait how did it add mystery?
@@Ragtime_Tony if you heard the line “you served in the clone wars?” before watching or even hearing about the the tv show or anything about it in the prequels, then you probably thought “oh man I wonder what the clone wars were” or something like that.
@@erikschiller7210 ohhhh I forgot that the prequels came after the first 3 chronologically haha, it's very confusing
@@Ragtime_Tony ye my grandfather said back in ‘77 he watched this and was very confused
“... And he was a good friend...”
Anakin: "I Hate You!!"
Anakin was already dead by then, consumed by the dark side.
That’s no moon
“They were animals and I slaughtered them like animals,I hate them”
Young Gloom He was a good friend, and flammable.
uncanny how even though they didn't have the prequels yet, those memories were put in at the optimal time in order to make old Obi Wan's words carry more weight and pain
The prequels get a lot of flack, but they're still such important entries for the franchise.
@@tailedgates9 idgaf about anything that came after 2005
@@sebastianfjorn The Clone Wars the show? Probably one of the most important parts of Star Wars world/character building and lore.
@@Byerly2k20 carrie fischers coke nail while prime harrison ford is betraying his wife on the set is all the lore anyone needs, anything beyond that is beating a dead horse
George Lucas planned it all out beforehand, and if he didn't sell it off to disney, we could have had a cool sequel trilogy.
I was expecting a meme, not this emotional roller coaster
Ikr
:*(
Official King what is the pic from I forgot the name of the song or musician
Qwerty Dude i think it’s a suicide boys album cover from SoundCloud
I’m glad I’m not the only one that it hurts too because honestly I could cry and it’s crazy that I know none of it is real but the feelings definitely are real
I thought this was going to be a meme, but it’s serious.
Same
Its both.
Same
Same
Same
Luke: Do you know who killed my father ?
Obi wan : Of course I know him, he is me
Obi Wan didn't kill his father though, lol. Luke's father killed Obi-Wan. Unless you mean killed in a metaphorical sense. In which case, Obi-Wan still didn't kill Luke's father.
@@827Drew I mean he did technically left Anakin to die on mustafar. Anakin would have died if it wasn't for Palpatine.
@@tonywoods1226 Yeah, but...Anakin didn't die, so Obi-Wan couldn't have possibly killed him. He might've wanted to kill him, or let him die, but he was unsuccessful. So, I can't say any killing happened.
@@tonywoods1226 Let me just elaborate. What really happened is Anakin killed himself, when he decided to become Darth Vader. You might not agree with that statement, but I'm pretty sure that's what the movie was trying to show you.
@Drew B Obi-Wan Kenobi left him there to die. He thought Anakin had, until he felt his presence.
I have no idea how Alec had the foresight to glare at R2 the way he initially does. Neither he nor Lucas knew at that point that Obi-wan and R2 had ever met, yet he still glares at R2 in annoyance for bringing the war to Luke and blowing years of covert existence.
Ive heard conflicting things. Many say lucas had the outlines of the full story before making the first movie in 1977. The lack of technology made it very difficult to create what he wanted so he had to start in the middke of the story, also he was only to make one movie at first by contract, so he had to scrap alot of it and try to make a movie that could stand on its own. But apperantly the arch of anakin falling and his children redeeming him was in the original script, not fully fleshed out. Idk what to believe lol
@@cognitivedisability9864 I thought it was pretty well known that Lucas didn't know that Vader was Luke's father until after the original was released? Or maybe he planned to tell the story of Darth Vader but not have him be Luke/Leia's dad?
Lmao I never noticed that glare! I love that
@@cognitivedisability9864Sure but come on R2 and 3PO being a part of the grand through-line was nowhere in anyone’s mind.
Thank you for the added lore!!!
“How did my father die?”
“We were playing The Floor is Lava. Things got out of hand... and legs.”
Yes
@Obi-Wan Kenobi Imposter
Lol
@Obi-Wan Kenobi stop the bullshit..
weilim10 fatality lol
The way Alec Guinness acts it almost seems like this was made after the prequels and he was told to act like he was remembering these specific moments from them. Great actor.
Without Guinness the Original trilogy would've sucked.
Lucas had a rough lore written out, he probably gave alec a little background of what obi wans origin was. Still amazing acting for what little he had.
@@mulberry8882 I will concede Lucas had the Lore but Alec Guinness fixed a lot of things. Supposedly the script was a lot more awkward and chunky before. If you want to know the difference watch the painful dialogue in the prequel trilogy vs the original trilogy.
@@mulberry8882 ruclips.net/video/dhkrvs_b860/видео.html This sums it up.
Alec Guiness fought in WW2 so he actually might not be 100% acting like he's seen trauma well because he has.
"you fought in the clone wars?"
luke, he was the clone wars.. :(
@Damian Howard it's a joke Bro
Wait why is my tablet getting glitc....
Gimme my fucking drone back mute
It’s like if you asked General Patton “Wait, you fought in WWII?”, and his reply is simply “Oh yes, I was an Army officer, just like your father...”
Well he did find the entire clone army so kinda
The tension and atmosphere was shattered upon realizing obi wan wouldnt be grabbing a refreshing Cerveza Cristal
Lmao💀💀
Was thinking the exact thing
Bro lol! CERVEZA CRISTAL!
It will never hit the same way again. We are all forever cursed.
Every time I watch this scene I can't help but think of Cerveza Cristal
I love how when Obi-Wan says “Don’t seem to remember ever owning a droid”, he’s talking to R2, or it looks that way. It looks as though there’s that sarcastic subtext of, “You and I both know I didn’t own you, we both know who did”
Sad r4 noises.
then proceeds to say *"Very* interesting......." instead of telling Luke his daddy-o murdered every Jedi the clones didnt get to first :(
actually R2 doesn't remember Anakin because they deleted R2's memory
@@iikills6927 R2's memory wasn't wiped -- only C3PO's.
Passage of ownership is a little weird. R2 was a royal Naboo droid, but it's never explained how Anakin and Obi-Wan got ownership of him. I suspect Padme gave R2 to Anakin, but Obi-Wan likely became a co-owner given Anakin's age. With Anakin assumed dead on Mustafar and his wife dying in childbirth, either Obi-Wan and/or Leia would end up as R2. It all depends on laws and how droids are registered to their owner. It seems like merely possessing a droid doesn't automatically grant mastership similar to how the title to a car works. Regardless of the case, it's understandable to see how Obi-Wan might have been registered as R2's owner without knowing it. Or we might be looking into this too closely and that R2 is just lying, which possible given that R2 lied to Luke and C3P0 to trick Luke into removing the restraining bolt.
Luke: says literally anything
Obi-wan: *Terrorizing Flashbacks*
I feel as though it should stay at 69 likes. 👍 hope that makes up for it
“Hey, your fly is down”
“Fly...down........FLY DOWN!...FLYING DOWN!!! WE’RE GOING DOWN!”
Luke : woops, my toast fell on the floor... :-(
Obi-Wan : Darth Vador used to throw everyone's toast on the floor... the dark side once pushed him to kill your father's toast...
Luke: How did my father die?
Ben Kenobi: We got in an altercation and-*dies*
Luke: Say hi to my father for me, and take his lightsaber with you...
😂
Brady Anderson lmaooo
Imagine being such a great actor you can act in context of movie that didn’t exist yet
Alec Guinness was a veteran of WW2, so when Lucas told him to act like he has seen unspeakable tragedy, he could. Because he has seen it in real life.
Phil Thats deep..
Well George Lucas was on set and he had most likely already thought of the entire story before he started making the prequels sooo... he probably already knew about the rough plot of the prequels. He’s still a great actor though
@@lancehitt0548 He actually did not plan on making prequels. He's said he wanted to continue Luke and everyone's story after the fall of The Empire but fans wanted to know how Darth Vader became Darth Vader, so he decided to go with the prequels.
Brain rich oh? I didn’t know that. Thanks for telling me.
It’s amazing how consistent George was with the timeline. The fact that he based Anakin’s downfall of off this one conversation and made it all match amazes me to this day. Disney has never put that much care into the franchise.
Consistent? Oh, please... "I haven't gone by the name of Obi-Wan since BEFORE you were born. "
@@galaxyrider9599 Ohh no, whatever shall we do...
@@galaxyrider9599 and didn't his and Yoda's exile begin at the same time that Padmé gave birth and died?
It was true until Disney came and messed up everything with their hot garbage of low effort shows.
Disney version:
“Somehow your father died, that’s a good question , but for another time”
@@carlosdgutierrez6570 obi says that anakin wanted to give luke his lightsaber. generally the prequels are trash and murder the original trilogy and thei continuity
"He was the best star pilot in the galaxy...and a cunning warrior...and he was a good friend."
Just break my heart won't you.
Breaks mine and yours......
Always brings a tear to my eye.
That hurt
Screw you now im sad
Duke H. I'll try spinning, THATS A GOOD TRICK!
first minute: lol meme
two minutes later: tears
Rai Blitz I gave you your 69 like
Rai Blitz same here i felt obi wans pain on losing his best friend to the dark side and then spending 20 years patiently waiting to train luke
Came for lulz, stayed for feels.
TRUEEEE
lol
Luke: you fought in the clone wars??
Starwars audience in 1977: The What
Yeah. One of many things that had us just wanting *more* for decades...
Early concepts for the clone wars were an uprising of clones
Nah, we just accepted the term; we had heard of clones, knew what the word means. Also, even in 1977, it said, "Star Wars Episode 4" at the start of the scroll; I wanted to know where the first 3 episodes were. I learned in the book, "The Making of The Empire Strikes Back," that George Lucas had nine chapters in mind for the story.
Obi-Wan: Yes, your father and I were both cartoons, once.
@@strivingformindfulness2356 then Disney took a giant shit on Gorge ideas for the sequels and rushes in without a plan and story.
It's crazy. When Luke says the name Obi-wan Kenobi, you can see the stress, emotional trauma, the PTSD of Kenobi in Sir Alec Guiness's face and eyes. And this was around 30 years before the prequels. Insane.
Being a WWII veteran will do that to you.
"He was the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior... And he was a good friend." These lines never hit me harder than with those flashbacks 😢
Indeed
Even worse if you watched the Clone Wars cartoon.
Djeffy those lines with the music gave me chills like damn they should’ve included this music in the movie
Now this is pod racing!
Try spinning, that’s a good trick!
You were my brother Anakin.
“You fought in the clone wars?”
That line... that line created so much.
(Vietnam Flashbacks)
Lucas probably thought it was just a neat throwaway line. "What kind of war did his dad fight in? A Clone War? That sounds cool. Oh! The Clone WARS! That sounds even cooler." Dude probably didn't expect to spawn a whole damn 7 season cartoon.
@@daminox
Lol, I know right? Such a tiny thing has had such a massive impact.
@@MR.ICE. Indeed, I just finished the Clone Wars the other day and it was really something else.
@@daminox don't forget a mini series from 2003
This would have been a god tier revenge of the sith trailer
Some dude Yh
nah bro people would complain that it gives away too many things and bitch about something else
It would give away too much but if they changed some of the scenes omgosh ur right
Some dude oh boyyyyy
Actually it was, i think the first one
Out of all the "before the dark times" video edits, this is STILL by far the BEST.
Although some other versions are longer, with the flashbacks following a more linear recollection of events chronologically, that's not how memory works. Instead, our memories are episodic, segmented, and all appear out of order. This edit displays this fact perfectly.
We remember things not in the way they have happened, but in how they made us feel. Words that trigger certain emotions, both of which you haven't heard nor experienced in years cause the most vivid yet random flashbulb images that penetrate the mind without any control of what you see or feel. Great video!
Praise to Alec Guinness for the top tier performance. Man is suffering PTSD from movies that had yet to be released in 30 years.
Sir Alec Guinness knew Obi Wan’s backstory better than even George Lucas did…
“How did my father die?”
“I had the high-ground.”
“What?”
“What?”
Chance Mitchell and he was on the ground lol
:_:
Best comment out
He overestimated his own power
“You’re a wizard, Luke”.
“I’m a what?!”.
Watching this you realize how rich Alec Guinness' interpretation was. It's like he knew the whole story already.
oO Anonyme Oo what makes it even more impressive is that no one knew what the backstory even was at this point. Dude was a fantastic actor
That's what I said.
amazing performance in deed
Even though he was not fond of Star Wars...he really committed to giving it his best. That’s a good actor, almost like Mark Hamill learned from him. Even though he doesn’t like the new Disney films, he is giving his best.
I think what Mark Hamill thinks about the new Star Wars movies depends on which click-bait you are reading at that moment.
Some articles use quotes taken completely out of context, and I don't believe he has ever said he didn't like the Last Jedi, just that initially he had some doubts *at scripting phase*! He later came out to say he considers TLJ a great movie.
The context matters. If he really hated the movie it would have been extremely unprofessional of him to ciritize it during its marketing, no matter who you are.
I came here expecting a shitpost full of memes, not a masterpiece to make me cry.
for real!
SAME
Same
Yeah bro, I'm so glad it wasn't a meme.
Yup, same here.
One of the great things about the original Star Wars movies is their ability to make a simple conversation or even a single line hint at the fact there’s much more to this universe.
"Your father's light sabre"
*proceeds to hand him the youngling killer 9000
"There are too many of them what are we going to do?"
edit: only 420 likes, i'm bad
@@parzingtheasian ignites his light saber while starring menacingly into the younglings eyes
@@uhamza448 youngling steps back in confusion
@@JohnsonTheSecond unexplained horror that happens but not shown cuz it's not R rated
*Youngling killer 9000*
"This is your father's lightsaber. He murdered twenty children with it."
darkAwesome100 lmao
Made me laugh in out loud, thanks
“Plus some sand people children, but hey, they don’t really count do they?”
“You can still smell some burned hair stuck between the parts. *sniff* Jere you go kid”
OOF
"You fought in the Clone Wars?"
"Yes, I was once a cartoon character, the same as your father."
“We were 2D then 3D and then we were live action again”
I have a feeling I’ve seen this comment many months ago
Yeah, I swear this is not the original comment, but it’s the same so does it really matter
@@kunaikai and then just recently before you came back with that droid, i was 3d again.
Lol
"Well, of course I know him. He's Ewan McGregor"
Before the dark times..... *looks into distance*..... before the empire.....
Shivers down my spine every time.
UpstreamNL Before the Purge, before 66...
Sir Alec Guiness had that thousand mile stare nailed down perfectly.
Get a blanket bro
UpstreamNL ikr
These edits make me incredibly sad. The story of Star Wars is a masterpiece, even if the prequels weren’t executed as well as they could.
Obi Wan should have PTSD when Han says “this is where the fun begins”
Han? It's Anakin you doofus
Unknown Error Han says it it a new hope and Anakin says it in ROTS idiot
Unknown Error that’s why he’s having PTSD he’s remembering Anakin saying it
@@gc8909 oh lol.
Unknown Error
That was pretty obvious
I Never really appreciated Alec Guiness' subtle acting until now. The way he pauses and thinks, the sadness in his eyes as if he actually lived through all this. Genius.
I like the little eye roll he gives when he says "not yet"
True. Compared to all the shit acting in the prequels and later. This is a different level
2:41 When Obi-Wan says "before the dark times" and you get a shot at Maul's hateful gaze I actually get chills sent down my spine.
What an absolutely masterful edit!
Luke: Do you know who killed my father?
Obi-Wan: Of course I know him, he's me
@@TheIsraeliRanter It was a joke, Captain Serious.
@JoGeJo he got buried deep inside in own mind by Darth Vader but he become Anakin once again.
@@Muksss Wai what?
@@AnomanderRevan shut the fuck up about your damn jokes. god nothing short of outright telling you laughed or got the joke will stop you from constantly peskering others about the fucking joke, Jesus Christ they can't even make a god damn statement without your annoying ass coming in all like "OMG IT-ITS A-A J-J-JO-JO-JOKE HAHAHAHA LOOK AT ME IM THE COMEDY GOD HAHAHAAH *snort* OMG like WHY SO SERIOUS????" just shut the fuck up for ONCE!
@@nicolerees7055 yes u
"You fought in the clone wars?"
"Yes. I was a cartoon."
stolen
And a fucking good one at that
me: ... I shouldn't ...
my meme side: DEW IT!
"GENERAL PLEASE, HAVE A SEAT"
"HELLO THERE"
"ANAKIN WHEN i TELL YOU TO RUN, RUN!"
"I LIKE YOUR NEW LEGS, THEY MAKE YOU LOOK TALLER"
"SPINNING IS NOT FLYING"
"AT LEAST YOUR A MASTER, AT GETTING CAUGHT"
"SHOULD WE DISCUSS THE TERMS OF SURRENDER?"
"WE WERE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR COUNT DOOKU"
"WE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SHIP"
Liam da Lemon! ANAKIN, CONTROL YOUR INSOLENCE THE COUNT IS CONCENTRATING
Uni BlackSister bruh you got to be joking, it’s good asf
"I don't seem to remember ever OWNING a droid."
Obi-Wan didn't forget R2D2; he's talking to R2. He's saying "I never owned you, you were a friend."
Yea, and even then, he technically didn't *own* r4 either. It's another "certain point of view" thing.
@@clickycal "Everything is true. From a certain point of view" man i love that show, it's hilarious
When he said that I know obi wan was like ‘you weren’t mine’ he had that face like he did 😂
Oh damn that’s deep
This is complete horseshit.
"I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did."
"Then my friend is truly dead. Goodbye, Darth."
Thought this was a meme but its actually an emotional piece of star wars history
same lol
This is literally the best trailer i've ever seen. I showed it to all my friends and they agree. If the star wars movies was told like this, this would be on of the best masterpieces ever made
yes
I do not know what is happening to me, but I feel I need to dub you "the senate"
Same haha
"What was my father like"
"He didnt like sand"
Bruh 500 likes 0 comments, i gotta ruin this
@@pyro1694 ahahah thanks bro and Happy New Year
He wasn't very good at playing the floor is lava...
Yeah, kept saying how it was coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
Hated sand. Disliked people. And you don't even want to KNOW his take on Sand People...
“I HATE YOU... MAKE SURE TO GIVE MY SON MY LIGHTSABER WHEN HE’S OLD ENOUGH”
- Anakin Skywalker
*takes anakin lightsaber without asking*
Haha!!
😂
Vader didn’t even know Luke was alive
@@minti2355 Once he turned to the dark side Vader was ordered to hunt down remaining Jedi. He killed one, took his light saber, and turned the kyber crystal red with hatred.
2:22 is incredible. "Your father's... lightsaber." And then it flashes back to Anakin commiting a horrid war crime. That part of this video always just stabs me right in the feels.
Imagine being so good at acting you have ptsd of a film that isn’t invented for another 30 years
Imagine making a film so bad it gives an actor ptsd 30 years in advance.
@Mathew Alfonso-MillsTBH I kind of liked revenge of the sith, but the first two were really bad. To be fair, they did have a good story, but the terrible script ruined it for me. But to each their own I guess.
@@user-hf9hf6hw8j attack of the clones was horrible i will give you that. Phantom Menace is half garbage and half really good (good parts are Darthmaul duel and child anakins acting. legit for a child actor it was pretty damn impressive. and then i loved revenge of the sith. i think its a movie that is held back by clone wars. cause that movie was the setup to Anakins turn to darkside and they fucked it up. i think that if the setup was done actually well, then the movie would have been the second best starwars movie.
@@user-hf9hf6hw8j i bet this guy likes the prequel over the original trilogy.
@@user-hf9hf6hw8j no film can be perfect
I came here expecting jokes, I left with a cold feeling down my spine
same!
You ain't lyin'
Samee
Same...
Me 2 lol
Can we talk about how amazing Alec Guinness's acting is? Legendary man.
yeah seeing these clips weaved into those scenes made me see the nuances of his feelings for the first time...and I've seen a new hope 923842384938 times lol
First watching a New Hope, you kinda think he's overreacting and overacting in these scenes
Then going back to it, you kinda do realize that Alec's acting is perfect after everything that happened in the prequels and the Clone Wars
Almost as though he watched the movies before, but we all know that was impossible
apparently he hated working on the movie
@@grandtheftmonkey77 which speaks to his professionalism I suppose. Hating your job but still giving a solid performance is pretty admirable.
This is the most moving, most non-cringe way I've ever seen the prequel trilogy and the original trilogy combined together, nicely done.
The part when he says "And he was a good friend." completely destroyed me.
100p brother
Same
That mood change, and Sir Alec's expression, truly brilliant edit.
Right? Because he wasnt a good friend. They just bickered all the time
Rinky Dink r/whoooosh ?
"What was my father like?"
"He didn't like sand"
It's rough and coarse, and it gets everywhere.
Otakamerd lol
Otakamerd Anakin doesn’t like sand for one reason. He lived on a planet that was all sand for years as a slave with his mother. He couldn’t free his mother from slavery and he couldn’t free himself without help. Seeing sand brings back bad memories. People just need to really listen to what the characters are saying and try to analyze what they are saying. Don’t be dumb and jump on the bandwagon. Actually think about what the characters are saying.
Gotham Savior so what you are saying is that.... he didn't like sand!
Gotham Savior Maybe because 90% of Star Wars fans are retarded
ive never considered how painful this conversarion must have been for obi wan
Obviously not intended at the time, but Alec Guinness' performance has an undercurrent of disquiet and guilt when he lies to Luke.
@@dmgroberts5471 If I don't remember wrong he probably though of ww2 to do it this well
there rly is something special abt star wars
It really justifies his "from a certain point of view"
Obi Wan and Yoda were the only ones alive that knew who Vader was. It makes sense looking back that Obi Wan wouldn't give the information up to Luke too easily.
Duuude, that actually adds so much emotion to this dude, I never saw this like that before.
Luke: You Fought in The Clone Wars?
Obi Wan: Yes I once was a cartoon character like your father
+Obi Wan Kenobi i need to talk to about Anakin and Padmè Relationship i need help pls
Indeed I was
+Darth Vader i am also a Sith
The best cartoon character ever
Sean Glasshoff YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT.
It is so cool to see how Ewan McGregor nailed Alec Guiness’ acting here, even the way he holds his chin when he’s deep in thought became a patented move of Obi-Wan over the years
There wasn’t anyone who could have played the part better.
Anyone can hold a chin but the eyes takes the oscar
- thehighground
He even copied his way of speaking
Imagine being such a good actor that your character has PTSD from events in a movie that wouldn't be made in 30 years.
No he’s a WW2 vet
It's really not that difficult. "You're an old veteran with PTSD . You've lived a long life and often take pauses between lines to reflect on old memories". He did a great job at acting this out, but at the same time it's not something incredibly difficult to do and everyone seems to be overacting about it.
@@LangugesLearning This. And also all the movies are based on books that existed before and I can imagine that it's only natural for actors to get to know as much as they know about their character so he probably read them before. People act as if no one knew anything about the story because the movies were not out
@@kabo2246 Wait, sorry? What books are we talking about??
@@andrew_c_b_ nvm, I must have mixed it with some other movie, I always thought that star wars had books xD (it does now but those are newer ones)
This edit actually truly makes sense. I understand that Alec Guinness is performance in A New Hope actually had nothing to do with any of these previous circumstances. But I always like to think that the long pauses in Alec Guinness's performance was always Obi-Wan reflecting. Come on Disney, stop screwing around and make Obi-Wan great again.
I see what you did there😂
It isn't just the flashbacks, it's the absolutely incredible detail of how Alec's body language is. Seriously, look at how he moves and acts. The way how he stares into space, the way he takes a breath, the pause he takes before he speaks again, these little details he makes is what truly *sells* these flashbacks.
Sorry dude but are you stalking the dude he is dead ffs
Yes, credit to Obi Wan's original actor for a great performance and credit to George Lucas for having the vision and foresight to nail what this scene is about in spirit long before the prequels were made... but also credit to the creator of this video for making a masterful mashup that really brings it all together in a convincing, natural, fluid, and emotionally powerful manner.
He actually fought in WW2 so that probably helped his performance he probably wanted for the PTSD aspect of the character to be visible
@Elden Rozy This, so much this. Most comments here do not prize or understand the power of the edit that author has done here!
Mists & Shadows Please tell me you are trolling
I truly respect obi-wan
He lost his love
He lost his best-friend
He lost his master
And he still stayed as a jedi
I'd argue Obi-Wan was one of the greatest Jedi to ever live, he had so many sad and horrible things happen to him in his life and he still remained a strong and capable master. Not once did he ever even show a chance of turning to the Dark Side. He had so many chances but never took the easy way out
@@devinbrooks3930 fr
Obi wan is the greatest jedi to have ever lived, and thats because anakin and quigon pushed him to be more than just a jedi. We’re shown early on from phantom that the order was flawed and unwilling to adapt/change.
So was his master,the one who follow the forces instead of the Jedi ways
The Story of Obi-wan is truly a... tragedy.
He lost everyone that he loved and people who were around him.
They keep haunting his dreams, yet he doesn’t succumb to the darkness of those.
He used his own flaws to overcome the darkness.
When you realise Alec Guinness never saw the prequels
😞
🥺☹️☹️☹️
@@jcarenas9410 its all about c um
NNNNNNOOOOO
SweKrieg He’s watching... from above 😇
By fare the best interpretation and edit of Obi-wan’s understanding on how he lost his best friend and brother. Tear jerking.
Tear jerking is when you substitute lube with spicy jalapeno extract
I expected a video of someone explaining why he has PTSD , not this masterpiece
I expected some sort of meme
GamingAnarchy same honestly
Same
@@GulagExpress1 me too honestly
Truly masterpiece almost crying I have to say though
I was expecting silver, but found gold.
Quality
u were expecting silver... but it was me! DIO!
@@Diabvell no joseph u can't fool us twice
@@atolllion7092 👀
i expected diamonds -and found netherite instead-
The fact that he says Darth Vader killed Anakin, and not that Anakin is Darth Vader really says a lot more than just him covering up that he's Luke's father. That in his eyes, that really is the case. How poetic.
😢
From a certain point of view
@@rustyshackleford2223 😂😂😂
@Eredin Glas in return of the Jedi obi-wan as a ghost says to Luke that what he said about Vader killing his father was true from a certain point of view
@Eredin Glas that's from Empire, he tells Luke "Luke: You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.
Ben: You father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I have told you was true... from a certain point of view."
This is the single best fan edit that I’ve ever seen.
It made me cry
What's crazy is that his facial expressions are perfectly relevant for everything even before the newer stories were completed.
Some truly masterful acting on his part
@@sollyswolly1623 or even better writing
@@sollyswolly1623 Negative. Sir Alex Guinness served in WWII. Wasn't acting.
Almost like he's an actor who was told the story and how to act in response to it
John Martinez if only more actors could do it so well 🤷🏼♂️
Realizing The Clone Wars was mentioned in the first Star Wars movie.
cjxgraphics people must’ve been scratching their heads for a while wondering “da fuck is a *clone* war”
That's cause the story was written, the CGI was not capable at the time
Right. Don't remember that
@@osmacar5331 You mean Lucas picked a random sci fi word to slap in front of "Wars", then figured out what clones had to do with anything 20 years later.
@@nobodyspecial675 Exactly how did you come up with that assumption that it was "random"? Elaborate.
"I was once a jedi knight , the same as your father"
"Then I became a jedi master , unlike your father"
OUCH
This is outrageous, it's unfair!
Ooooooooo
Rip Anakin, he's gonna need more than bacta to heal that wound
@Manek Iridius *sits down in anger*
They say the old Obi-Wan actor was a WW2 veteran, and when he was talking about the Empire he was thinking of the Nazis. That's how he could make this scene so powerful.
“You fought in the Clone Wars” a simple line, made just to add mystery for the audience back in 1977. But oh man did it start something great
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your Kids are gonna love it!"
i tried to scrub your pfp off my screen
shit! I guess you ment "...did it start shit!" the star wars movie series is a text book definition of the monotone negative slope
i fell for ur pfp
Dave Filoni with a nuclear bomb sized lightbulb above his head
After seeing this, I will never question why he aged so much after 19 years.
Exactly
The 2 suns on tattooine I believe aged him faster or something.
War is a helluva drug.
Extreme stress and trauma + desert life. Makes perfect sense.
If you want to see rapid ageing look up is presidents before and after photos not pretty
This really does put together just how tragic the story is in star wars.
If obi wan is still troubled by the clone wars, imagine what darth Vader feels?
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 he made most of those problems himself
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 which is why Vader was such a terrifying Sith Lord. In one comic he fights against a resurrected Darth Maul, and just as maul is about to win Vader ignites his own saber through his own chest to kill maul from behind him. Maul asked him “what could you hate enough to destroy me?” To which Vader responded “Myself”. Vader always refused to die, because deep down he felt he deserved to be punished to experience all this pain for what he had done. But the more anger and hate the more powerful in the dark side you become. The whole thing is such a Shakespearean tragedy.
@@ollie4425 It was actually heavily due to Kenobi's lack of attention to Anakin and his nightmares about Padme dying and him averting his attention from their relationship in the first place. But even beyond that Anakin needed Qui gon jinn to not die and remain his father figure, Kenobi couldn't do that he said it himself when he defeated Anakin "you were my brother Anakin". You realize that Palpatine entered the picture taking the place of a father like figure for him right?
Mostly for Obi Wan
Obi wan is a freakin legend. He's basically a war veteran. The fact he lived for that long is incredible.
My condolences to Alec Guinness.
It's crazy to think of how good Alec Guinness' performance was in this scene when nobody truly knew his full back story
All that story was build after his performance, so it is not so hard to adopt it.
One of the all time greats of acting. The pain and sorrow he captured as an old Ben Kenobi considering the clone wars wasn't even really thought of yet, was incredible. Such phenomenal unmatched talent.
Actors usually are just given notes about their characters, sometimes even great actors take that info and morph it into something of their own. George probably just told Alec Obi-wan was a jedi knight, who has seen war and the atrocities that come with it, he also saw the rise of The Empire and nearly avoided the extinction of the Jedi. His good friend, who was Darth Vader, betrayed him. So Alec being a genius actor understood what someone would feel going through all that and it showed in his performance still many years later.
Guinness was an amazing actor. Probably part of the reason he didn't like Star Wars as he seemed to think that playing a space wizard in a kids movie somehow tarnished his reputation.
Lucas said Guinness wanted to be in Star Wars because it was a fight of Good vs. Evil even when others told him to stay away from it. Never heard of Guinness saying he didn't like the movie and his role in it.
“Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young”
Damn.
Well, yeah. According to the screenplay writer and choreographer of ROTS, Obi-Wan was an 8/10 in terms of power, while Yoda, Anakin and Sidious were alone in being a 9/10. That basically makes Obi-Wan one of the greatest Jedi of all time in terms of combat prowess alone, and that wasn't even his greatest virtue. The quote applies to him for sure.
As far as I know, Obi-Wan is the best at one of the lightsaber techniques and if I'm not lying to myself, that's the defensive one. He might have not been as force-sensitive as Anakin, but re-watch their battle and notice how Obi-Wan did not get hit once.
@@alonnie1919 Soresu, and he was not just 'a' master at it, but according to Master Windu, yes the guy who kicked Sidious' ass (confirmed by Lucas not to have been a ploy), Obi-Wan is 'THE' mater of Soresu. Only Master Yoda could hit him in combat, and he still struggled with it.
If anyone wanted to hit Kenobi in battle they'd have to have either flawless Makashi, which is the fencing style and Dooku's style, or even more perfect Ataru, which is the acrobatic style and Yoda's style.
Straight White Male
What if I just hit o I wan lightsaber really hard.
"Do you know who dismembered my father?"
"Well ofcourse I know him, he's me."
Darth Occlus I think Obi wan killed uncle Owen some reason he likes burning people related to Luke
Man... the dialogue of the first movie was so good. I watched this edit 8 years ago when it first came out and it still holds up. Its amazing the story that Lucas was able to tell when you see it this way.
"He was the best Starfighter in the Galaxy, and a Cunning warrior and he was a good friend." Always gets me, hits even harder after watching Clone Wars.
Almost teared up when he said “and he was a good friend” and then they showed the flashes 🥲😭😭😭
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Im man enough to admit that made me cry a bit.
@@Eliace590 Sosa showed the PTSD side very well a perfect edit
I've come back to this video what, nearly 5 years? No regrets.
Lucas Film mentioning the Clone Wars, Anakin being a great Pilot, etc: “You’re not yet ready this, but your kids are going to love it!”
Holy shit back to the future
I am limited by the technology of my time
@@rix_horizon494 Imagine the prequels with the technology at the time of the og
Yet.
@@GoldenTekYT Now this is Podracing!
On a budget!
Actually if you look closely into obiwan's eyes, right after he said "and he was a good friend" it looked like he was ready to cry.
You can see why too. They were brothers and Anakin looked up to Obi-Wan like the father he never had.
Webshooters1 yeah
Alex Guinness was such an amazing actor for his time...
Shadrak94 Yeah that's what I heard.
He didn't really hate _Star Wars_; he just wanted to be remembered for his other roles, not just Obi-Wan.
It's in those pauses that soldiers take when telling a story that speaks to the pain.
His acting before the previous movies were even released is insane.
There is something about the english accent that allows them to say "Tell me, young Luke..." without sounding awkward ... older english actors are perfect for jedi master roles ...
He felt a disturbance in the force
Ikr
@macks it's still gr8 by itself
Thats Sir Alec Guiness for you
This really emphasizes Alec Guinness' acting... As a kid I never realized how heavy the pauses were, I just thought he was a slow old man. Just wow
But it'd have a lot less weight without Lucas's great prequel trilogy. Imagine making such a thing and having people dislike it for years and years. Very sad.
Alec Guinness is still one of my favourite parts of the original movie to this day. The original Star Wars is the best IMO and although I love ESB, I more often go back to the original.
Let's not kid ourselves, there's still plenty of objective reason to dislike the Prequels for. They were heavily flawed films. But what they had over the Sequels is heart, and love for the story universe it waa set in. Even though I don't much care for the Prequels, and never had, I can still enjoy watching them with my nephews.
The Sequels, however, were equal parts malicious, dismissive, and incompetence. They are terrible films.
@@beenjammin2118 I like to believe if it wasn't for the Clone Wars TV Show, Star Wars wouldn't have been strong as it is now. Clone Wars brought so much more life into the Star Wars Universe. If it weren't for Clone Wars, then Star Wars would be nothing but something that started as one of the best films from the sci-fi genre to another franchise that fell from grace.
@@beenjammin2118 they were nonsensical, all flash no substance, stupid cash grabs. Not rogue one tho
Luke: “how did my father die?”
Obi wan: “Define what you mean by ‘die’.“
"He died at the hands of then Senator and now Archchancellor Adam Sutler... Wait... Wrong villain. Then Senator and now Emperor, Palpatine, in a joint effort with sand people. And, in a way, an innocent girl called Padme. Remove any of the three influences from his life and who knows what he could have become. They are all equally to blame for his downfall."
"Padme? Wait... My mother? How did she cause his death? They loved each other."
"And without that distraction, without her always on his mind, he would have stayed on the straight and narrow road to becoming one of the great Jedi Masters of our time. And she would have been at the senate to cast her vote instead of leaving that brainless creature to destroy the Republic and cause the horror that is the Empire. Had it not been for their love, things would have been entirely different. We, Jedi Knights, remain celibate for a reason, Luke. We don't let emotions influence our actions. Try to remember that in the future, if you, when you hit around my age, were to meet a silly girl who wants you to teach her."
A man dies a thousand times before his death
Didn't Padme help to overthrow Chancellor Sutler 😂
Yup. Together with Red Skull Elrond trying to be Anonymous.
From a certain point of view
god, imagine what an amazing actor you’d have to be to look like you’re remember things that haven’t even been thought of yet
"You fought in the clone wars?"
"Fought in it? I kinda started it by finding that stupid army."
Palpatine, Dooku and Jango started it by having him cloned times 1000
@mike bond then we won't have great characters like jango ,dooku ,yoda and obi wan ,sure it had flaws but its still a story that explains what happened
@mike bond ok shut up their's peoples in this world who like the prequel like me. We didn't want your point of view so just shut the hell up
@mike bond and if you didn't like it why would you even watch this video you stupid idiot
@Vox3l-Gl1tch sorry 😔
This makes me realize how on point obiwan’s acting was.
Alec Guinness is one of the greatest actors of all time
Tbh this was before The other episodes came so its quite impressive that he could imagine exactly how his character should react
he was so good at acting he could act like he had ptsd of a movie that came out like 20 years later
@@denialz1460 he fought in ww2 so he knew what ptsd was actually like
Ptsd is really, no laughing matter. It may fade in time, but, under certain circumstances, it always returns.
You fought in the clone wars?
* Cue 6 seasons of intergalactic flashbacks *
Fought boy I was a general sent to some of the most brutal fronts in a bid by the emperor to get me killed.
Genius
Soon to be 7!
It's gonna be 7 boiiiiiiiii
AggressiveNegotiator why soon to be 7
Fans treat Star Wars better than Disney. This video is perfect! George would be proud.
3:12 "how did my father die?"
Obi-wan: "Well, I have the footage right here!"
*inserts star wars 3 dvd*
This comment made me laugh hard
Lmfao, blessed comment
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Good job, you got a laugh out of me
He was, to say the least...
'Flammable'
This is the best explanation I've ever seen of why Obi Wan told a "white lie" to Luke. Obi Wan simply didn't have the heart to tell young Luke the truth.
Technically it wasn't a lie, since it's now canon that Anakin and Vader are two different personalities. When Yoda said Anakin had been consumed by Darth Vader, he was telling the truth. Once he betrayed Mace, Vader became the dominant persona and Anakin was no longer in control of his actions.
He literally lied to him so he could use him to kill his dad.
@@Dognuhtz theres no way he would tell the truth, he wanted luke to think his father was always good and wasnt the monster he had became
Alec guiness paints the agony of wrestling with the question so well.
@@thewarner2139 so he had a multiple personality mental disorder, interesting
It seriously sounds like alec guiness is holding back tears when he says "before the empire"
Isaac Benzing except the Empire was good
Its the pauses that the creator added to this conversation with luke that made it that much more powerful. I'm a huge fan of story telling through flashbacks and this one is wonderful
What's really great is how Alec Guiness is telling Luke the story as if he knew that the Prequels would come some day and all of that would happen. There is some great "backwards-foreshadowing", if you wanna call it like that. Say what you want about the Prequels, but Lucas did some good planning.
Alec Guiness was a renowned actor at the time of IV and was the only name known by Hollywood. Lucas actually couldn’t afford him but Guiness agreed to tone movie in exchange for a cut of the profits because he read the script and knew it would be a hit
@@BenniRoR It's interesting you say that because I've always viewed this scene as one that kind of makes it seem like he really didn't have it all planned out from the beginning. I honestly think he changed the direction he wanted to go with these movies after A New Hope. I don't think Vader was originally supposed to be Luke's father and Luke and Leia definitely were not originally intended to be brother and sister. if you listen to some of the stuff he says about the clone wars it makes it seem like Anakin decided to fight and become a jedi much later in adulthood and that he knew Luke's uncle Owen way before that, but according to the prequels they really didn't have much interaction.