This fight is better than any in the sequel trilogy for one reason: it’s STORY driven. Notice how there’s barely any actual fighting going on in all of this. Even in Empire, the real conflict wasn’t really physical, but psychological. And that’s what makes the OT so special, even despite some flaws in Return of the Jedi, like the second act & ewoks. This segment alone stands out as one of the all time great Star Wars moments, and I love it!
Wait, the second act of Return of The Jedi? I would have thought people hated how the first quarter of the movie takes place on Tatooine, within the confines of Jabba’s palace and skiff, just trying to get Han Solo back into the squad. If I saw this for the first time in 1983, I would have assumed that George Lucas spent a lot of time on that one part of the movie, completely forgot that there was all of Endor and Death Star II to film, and then scrambled to get Endor done quickly while also incorporating the Ewoks for the little kids watching. Not gonna lie though, I loved Return of The Jedi, especially the final space battle.
itwontcomeout5678 I would probably say that this movie pulls a Rouge One/Endgame move in the sense that the third act makes up for almost any complaint you have had with the movie before... if that makes sense?
@@TheInvincibleH except in the instance that he's had interaction with Force ghost Obi Wan since ESB. So there's a good amount he still could have learned from him, given that he visited Luke and Yoda often enough.
" I will not fight you " Nerd fanboys : " OMMMMMGGGGGG HE TRAINED HE TRAVLLED AND DONT WANNA FIGHT LUKE IS THE MMMMMMMMGGGG HE IS THE GAAAWD " Then after luke rage a bit swing is sword left to right with no accuracy whatsoever You fanboys still be like : " OMMMMG SOOOO GOOOD WRITING " So whats good now that hes the " good guy " or the " raging guy " Cause in the end he won cause of his rage and not cause hes good xD The writing in this 3 first movies are so bad.
In the novelization of ROTJ it goes into what Luke is thinking at that moment. He decides Leia is the only hope if he fails. He can't let Vader get to her. He'll kill Vader and himself to stop that from happening.
@@Innersanctum_ Mate, the "sequels" (calling them that is a joke in and of itself) are what I wipe my ass with after trying to digest the epicness that is Episodes IV to VI.
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader’s ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around. Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
Well, Vader has been in Luke’s position before. Anakin should’ve spared Dooku, because it was not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed prisoner. In the same manner, Sidious tries to rid himself of Vader’s unrealized potential. But Luke comes to his senses and tosses down his weapon, declaring himself a Jedi in the footsteps of his father.
The parallel between Vader’s missing hand and Luke’s matching, also robotic, black gloved hand is so perfect. A gentle reminder that Luke is one bad choice away from being consumed by the Dark Side, but he continues to fight to protect rather than to attack. Best Star Wars movie
The anger that Luke felt wasn't an anger of hate, it was one to protect the ones he loves. Much more powerful than Anakin's anger he felt when he wanted to gain power to help those he loved. This movie/scene brings so many emotions that you honestly don't care about the fight itself, rather the battle to save the ones you love from the Dark Side. This movie brings a great moral, it's easy to hate and destroy, but to love and fight for something, someone else is one of the greatest gifts we can give.
but at the same time, we see that Luke looks at his own robotic hand and then back to vader's robotic hand to signify that he realizes that his anger is just like his own father's and if he continues then he'll turn to the dark side, hence why he throws away his lightsaber after his realization.
@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 vor 1 Sekunde Love and hatred is ruled in a human brain in the same section what makes both the same feeling but you as human feel it different. That makes your point pointless.
@@myamdane6895You're missing the entire point if you think this is righteous anger. This is what Palpatine wanted Luke to do. Luke's fear was triggered, just as Anakin's fear was. Fear is a very unhealthy emotion that can lead to anger and aggression. Understandable aggression? Absolutely. But can it lead to the dark side? Yes. Like Obi-wan said: "Your feelings do you credit, but they can be made to serve the Emperor"
I love the fact that Vader does the safer option by doing the saber throw instead of engaging Luke at the High ground. It suggest that Vader has learned his lesson when it comes to engaging an opponent who has the high ground.
4:04 NOTHING will EVER top this sequence for me in all of Star Wars history. The emotion is so perfect, if there was a way to convey the force being distraught by conflict it is the music in this scene. If you could see the force visually you would see energy waves flushing out of every swing from Luke as he dominates Vader's own strength.
I remember watching this in the theatre the day it was released. from 4:19 - 4:39 the entire audience, we were on our feet jumping and cheering wildly. amazing memory.
I too saw it on opening day in a packed theater. They didn’t cheer until Vader’s hand was sabered off. Then they cheered again after Vader threw his master off the ledge. They never got on their feet but a good memory regardless.
@@randyjoe8253 Wow! you were in the same theater my friends and I were? My cousins were there too, remember? Crazy! What an amazing coincidence! Not that I don't believe you but do you remember the name of the the theater and the location and the time of the showing? I do. Small world though. 🙄
Imagine if Luke didn't care as much as he did here and went... "Ok fuck this shit Sidious you're too fucking annoying and dangerous to be kept alive, I'm going to kill you because I want to practice my Jedi beliefs in peace!" (Wham!) Technically, the whole scenes from start of the Throne room was more like a family gathering and deadly argument between Father and Son. Darth Sidious you're a fucking outsider with no business butting into their family affair gtfo man.
Sidious wasn't going to defend himself. He would've willingly been a martyr for Luke's anger to just take his place knowing the only known Jedi just screwed up his chance to make things right.
UltimaKeyMaster If he don't, Luke decided not to kill him out of anger but out of the fact that as long as Darth Sidious stays alive, Luke will never be able to practice his Jedi beliefs in peace. Then went "meh" at the Dark Side and went to live happily ever after because Darth Vader suddenly doesn't seem to care that much about striking down in anger or not because he's too busy going all over the places telling everyone that he has a son and a daughter.
I love when Darth Vader says "Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me, now his failure is complete" when discovering Leia exists as well. Theres something so heavy about Anakin's absolute resentment toward Obi-wan that he views the possibility of corrupting or destroying his own children as a means of achieving some sort of victory over his former master. His darkness makes him so desperate to prove Obi-Wan is inferior - that part of him would destroy his own children just to prove that Obi-wan failed to keep them safe. What a twistedly tragic character Anakin is.
I believe anakin said all that about leia to trigger his son's rage. Mind games. I sense that anakin wanted luke to kill him. Wanted to be put out of his misery
No that's what Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious wanted him to do and not spill the beans just like Count Dooku did when Anakin Skywalker killed him. Luke wanted to strike down Palpatine because he thought: "If I kill Palpatine I end the war right? And my dad goes free no killing him."
Still one of the most emotional fights in Star Wars History. Just them talking to each other as a Father and Son. Luke wants to save his Father at all cost. But when Vader said about Leia, all the best were off. It went from wanting to save his father, to Protect my Sister. Still hits you in the feels and you watch them fighting again and Luke is so aggressive to point Vader can no longer keep up. The Story telling in this Trilogy will always be my all time favorite.
I'm old enough now to understand the significance of that line about her. He's trying to provoke luke. Vader wants to see his son's rage. Typical fatherly mind games Only a parent can bring that kinda rage outta u😅
Same! The anger Luke shows while fighting his father combined with the musical score that plays after Luke yells “Never!” still gives me goosebumps to this day, just like it did when I first saw the movie with my mom back in 2011.
Something I love about the final burst against Vader is the music. Its somber and sober, it knows whatvthis is: A Father against a Son. A fight that shouldn't be happening naturally. This isn't triumphant, this isn't glorious, this is a tragedy. All translated through music.
Palpatine wanted to know if Luke was powerful enough to defeat Vader(he was). It's basically the Dooku situation(both scenes are purposefuly similar). If Luke dies, Palpatine still has Vader as his powerful apprentice and the threat of a Jedi that could surpass Palpatine is gone. If Luke defeats and kills Vader, he gets an even stronger apprentice. It's a win-win scenario for him(until Luke refuses to kill Vader, of course)
The tracking shot past the stairs with Luke and Vader fighting behind it is one of my favorite shots in any movie, EVER!!! Especially with the amazing score on top of it!
Sometimes it feels like open disrespect how they club you in the face with lines like that. I think it might feel cool and like they're purposely echoing the original movies if they just made better shows to put these lines in.
@@TheMisterGuy don’t know wtf you’re talking about ahsoka is just about the best thing Disney has given us in Star Wars other than clone wars season 7 or mandalorian season 2
Vader hated himself after a lifetime of bad decisions. Ben was on the edge between dark and light, and the prospect of someone so strong with the force giving in frightened Luke, so much he instinctively drew his weapon. He reigned himself in, but by then his nephew saw all the evidence he needed to commit to the dark.
@@Avenger85438 hence why vader was conflicted but luke saw the light still in him, anyways thats not the point, the point is luke saw good in vader even after everything he did from hunting jedi he once knew and trained with etc to killing children, i would consider killing children a no going back momentm yet even after that luke still saw good in his father, yet luke could not see good in his own nephew and that was without ben drawing his lightsaber to lukes jedi academy
Lukáš Semecký Lol ur only saying that because you hate Ren as a character, I personally say this fight would last about 2 minutes, whilst Ren is extremely powerful, he doesn't have the experience or skill to defeat Luke.
"Obiwan has taught you well" It only just _now_ occured to me...Vader thinks Obiwan has been teaching Luke all this time... _He never learned of Yoda..._
I love how the movie handles Luke's short fall. it's not the offer of power, or anything like that. Rather it's the fact that wants to protect his sister, it overwhlems him and for a moment he slips and he falls into it. And then seeing his dad's robotic hand, the same to what he has, it pulls him back. It's the urge to protect his family that pulls him towards the dark side, and it's seeing what the dark side did to his family that pulled him out
Notice how Vader is never on the offensive in this scene. The whole fight is him blocking Luke’s attacks. And when he does try to take a swing at him, he goes for either his arms or legs as if to incapacitate him rather than kill him.
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 Here's another little fact that will get you thinking even more. In Empire Strikes Back he proposes to luke to join him and kill the empire. Vader was in conflict with many things.
@@originaler31er67 which can relate with how anakin choked padme and was tricked by the emperor that he killed her. Now he don't want the same fate happen to his son and he wants luke to join the darkside
And then disney trilogy happens... Prequels may not have been perfect, but at least their final duel was just as meaningful and emotional as this one. TROS end battle was just nonsense.
1:48 this split part was genius. Luke mentions not wanting to fight him and Vader slowly walks up the steps as if he doesn't to either. The fact they made that small clip relatively quiet before Vader struck at Luke waa smart. It genuinely gave me a jumpscare lmfao
Here's an interesting thought. When Luke was about to strike down the Emperor, did Vader block it to protect his master, or did Anakin stop Luke from falling into the Dark side the way the Emperor wanted him to?
The novel confirms Vader did it to protect Palpatine. He dien't believe killing Palpatine would be enough to turn Luke. He INMEDIATELY regrets the decision, since Luke focuses his anger on him.
YES!! I totally agree. The “good” in him saved Luke right then and there, although at that point he hadn’t fully turned back to the light and was still conflicted. Good call!
I am glad that I am not the only one who had that thought! Also, even though I had already watched the prequels, when Vader prevented Luke to kill Palpatine I came to the conclusion that even as a Sith Lord, Anakin is still the Chosen One, the end of the Sith will come by him not by Luke.
Proceeds To Cut His Own Dad Own Arm. I DoNt wAnT tO fIgHt yOu dAd! i fEeL gOod iN yOu Vader After Luke Cut His Arm : yeah you feel good in me because i was good and the bad one was you who lied to not fight and then cut someone hand then want to get help from people who his hand were cutted by you
I always liked how Luke looks at Vader's missing hand and sees it's machine and then looks at his own machine hand, and realizes he's on his way to becoming his father.
This franchise, this whole thing, the idea that it’s not a story between good and evil, but the fact that man can choose good or evil, the duality of man, is still the best and most beautiful portrayal of this concept I have ever seen. This scene specifically, portrays a concept that I, and maybe a lot of other men can relate to. The conflict between father and son. The struggle between impressing him, and still deciding what is good and what is bad yourself. I often come back to this scene when I have conflict with him. Even though as a grown man, he still somewhat scares me, I fear that my fury and anger will not just beat, defeat, overcome his shit, but will also make the process of me becoming him complete, as the Emperor says. George Lucas is a genius, and this franchise/movie remains the most beautiful piece of art I still have yet to see in my entire life.
Luke: *has the high ground* “You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I believe you won’t destroy me now” Vader: “you underestima- wait a second...”
My kids always said "Vader just gave up there, didn't really fight, that was lame". I had to explain to them that Vader didn't want to kill his son in the first place, and that when Jedi fight there is another level to it than just swinging glowy sticks around. The absolute righteous wrath Luke brought to bear completely overwhelmed Vader. That is why Luke was able to win so quickly. And when he let go of that wrath immediately after, that is when he truly won. When Vader saw that, and the punishment Luke withstood from Sidious, the decision was made. His son before anything else.
Can we just appreciate Ian McDiarmid in this? You can truly FEEL the darkness in sideous, you can feel the weight of his words, his gravitas. A truly incredible performance from a truly incredible actor.
How about when he smiles in delight after saying "and now young Skywalker you will die" and starts frying him again enjoying the pain he he is inflicting.
For all the new kids watching this, you have to understand when this film came out back in the day there simply wasn't any sci fi film like this (not that I can think of any way). There were no 4K ultra HD TV's or cameras, smart phones and all this other tech we have in our hands now. There was no RUclips or PS5 or Xbox. Now imagine the impact a film of this level had on people in a techless world.
Yoda never changed, he was always a serious Jedi until the end of his days. The same thing with Obi Wan and both had sense of responsibility even when they died and they became force's ghosts. They both lived a worst tragedy than Luke because of the order 66 and the exile for about 20 years suffering a lot. The direction Disney took on Luke doesn't have any sense.
Dameon Echol There is no real Luke. If u study sociology u would understand that people change according to their circumstances and surroundings. The “real Luke” u speak of is the Luke from 30 yrs ago/ the Luke in Last Jedi is one now. You must accept this young skywalker u have a lot to learn in life.
The last jedi makes Luke so fuckin stupid, here we see he's trying to convince and get his father back to good and in the last jedi he tried to kill Ben just because of a vision??
4:04 When Luke screams "never" and charges vader always gets me. The background music is so powerful. John Williams is a legend and No one can ever really replace him.
Very, very true. Although, I'd say that should it ever come to needing a replacement that either Michael Giacchino or Alan Silvestri would be the best choices. Not saying we *need* - or *want* - a replacement of John Williams, but if there ever is one, I'd say it's a choice between Michael and Alan.
For those arguing Luke did indeed surpass Vader once he used Jedi Fury,fully tapping into the darkside. The novel itself states that Palpatine himself was afraid of that power being used against him,with Sidious saying Luke could destroy them,with many other sources also sighting this. The novel also says that Sidious confidence in that moment was an act as Luke looked within him and sensed his fear. So Luke very briefly attained power comparable to and superior to that of Sidious but once he calms down he loses the rage boost and fatigue also sets in(as it happens after a fight is over and you calm down from rage)leaving him vulnerable,along with dropping his lightsaber like the lovable naive fool that he is. This is impressive for Vader cause he held his own against this power and Luke still had to put a lot of effort to beat him down,this solidifies that Vader is relative to Sidious power in this film,Lucas statement of EP6 Vader being 80% of Sidious makes a lot of sense under this context. Without using the darkside Luke was an equal overall tier with Vader but definetly weaker and on the lower end,with him somewhat gaining the advantage by using his aggressive feelings when kicking Vader down. But normally you can tell Vader has a definitive edge
100% agree. I've said before in conversations with people about this scene that in those fleeting moments during Luke's rage, he could've beaten almost anybody, including Palpatine himself. Palp always knew that a Luke with no restraint would be a threat, but to see it right in front of you makes that threat much more immediate and startling.
Something that crossed my mind was that Vader was right. If Luke failed here he would have certainly been able to turn Leia. The death of her planet and finally her brother would definitely tip her over the edge and make her much more susceptible to the dark side
thats exactly what happened in that "What if" comic they made if Luke's torpedo failed to take out the Death Star. Vader and Palps captured Leia again, and found out through the force the truth behind her heritage. They started to train her, and well, she went full sith
I watched the movie again yesterday and i just wonder: Why Lea? Why even Luke? Sidious knew Luke was stronger and wasnt easy to convince to become part of the dark side. It was obvious he wouldnt turn, so the whole dark side aspect was kinda irrelevant. Even more with Lea. She wasnt even a Jedi, why would they try to get her to the dark side? Im certain vader only said that to anger luke and lure him out of hiding.
@@CODA96 because Luke is the son of the chosen one and has tons of untapped potential power. Palpatine wants the most powerful force user as his apprentice, which he apparently wants to possess at some point. That fight between Vader and Luke was basically a test. between who is the most powerful force user. When Luke chose the light over the dark, this right here was a temper tantrum if anything. Palpatine finally ad someone who could beat his best servant, and this guy refused to work for him.
@@ethanharmer5151 I still dont get the whole situation at all. Luke had no reason to join the Dark Side. Literally none. Anakin joined the dark side because he believed he could save Padme with these powers. Palpatine was slowly manipulating him for years about the Jedi Council being corrupt and fueling his hate towards not becoming a master, aswell as his arrogance to be the strongest. It made perfect sense, but why Luke??? Palpatine neither manipulated him, and neither did they have Lea or Han as a Hostage. Hell, Palpatine even showed him that the rebellion is ''lost'' and everyone would die, if anything thats MORE reason to destroy Palpatine and NOT join the dark side. I really dont wanna say this, but this just feels like bad writing. Palpatine should have blown up endor while Luke was on it and be done with it. Luke had 0 reason to join him and was stronger than Vader, so Palpatine literally killed himself.
then he cuts off vaders hand and sees not flesh but machine.... just like how lukes own hand was cut off in ep 5 and replaced by a machine. he sees himself going down the same path as his father
It is so good. The final clash is insanely good. This is a cinematic masterpiece. I feel bad for whoever is leading heaven's orchestra, because when John Williams passes, they are out of a job.
It rises like a dread fear at the fearful power of good in us all.. just because you have the enemy backed into a corner and defeated doesn't mean you should beat them to death until there's nothing left. That is how evil changes travels from one form to another.
With Ahsoka: “I won’t leave you, not this time.” “Then you will die.” With Obi Wan: “I will do what I must.” “Then you will die.” With Luke: “You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I don’t believe you’ll destroy me now.” “You underestimate the power of the dark side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny.” I love this story.
and fallen order was decades before battle of yavin New Hope or even ROTJ, and was 5 years after anakin became darth vader, so at the time he was fully more powerful and at great potential as a dark lord. but as powerful as he is even at old age, yes he defintelty still have power but its not as strong as in the past, and yet he was holding back (his dark side feelings too) against luke so luke won.
Notice how Palatine said "strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete" Luke goes for him, but is stopped by Vader. Like Vader was preventing Luke from fulfilling the same fate as he once did...signs of Anakin coming back...
Vader could've backstabbed the Emperor. Luke alone, or Vader alone maybe couldn't beat the Emperor, but together they could beat him easy. If they had killed him they would both be on the dark side? Is this not what Vader wanted, to rule with his son? If he changed his mind about turning Luke then backstabbing the Emperor seems ideal, but then Vader would stay on the dark side and inevitably Luke would follow? Or was Vader so conflicted that it affected his reason? It seems, for the sake of the story, Vader had to die in order to be redeemed. Him surviving would not have done it. Say he did backstab the Emperor and then turned to the light. What then? That's not enough for redemption, also no one would ever accept Vader back in the rebellion, or new republic or whatever - the "good guys" wouldn't have him that's for sure.
Here after the Ahsoka episode and originally I thought she said that on Malachor, but she said "I won't leave you." I love how he said "I've heard that before" basically confirms that she wasn't fighting a vision of Anakin, but actually him.
I love the visual story telling in this scene. Especially when Luke's face is half in the shadow and half in the light as he is tempted by the darkside. Then when he lets his anger get the better of him he is obscured by the shadows and attacks.
Dude, I just made a comment about the same thing. I noticed it a long time ago when watching ROTJ, since it is my favorite movie of the entire Star Wars series. I brought up the "find" utility to see if anyone else possibly noticed this small but VERY crucial "tell" as far as what Luke was internally thinking and the possible future path Luke might take as far as his current choices were about to seal the deal for him. This very small cut of the scene is pretty much what sealed the deal for me on why my vote goes to ROTJ when saying which Star Wars I like best!! It really highlights the fact we all have choices in life and even in the most dire of situations, no matter how difficult it seems it might be when considering the consequences of our moment to moment choices, at the very worst it's a 50/50 decision and the easy way out never pays off like choosing what is good for us in the long run!! Thanks for being "that guy!" I was super duper hoping that someone else picked up on this very small detail given the gravity of the scene and how things turned out afterwards!
Palpatine really destroys this young man’s life and manipulates him into fighting his son and having front row seats to this fight gives him the biggest smile he’s ever had. Guy is truly evil
FUCK. DISNEY. THIS is the only version of Luke, who redeemed the galaxy's greatest monster because he felt some flicker of good within him, and would go on to marry Mara Jade and found the New Jedi Order.
Rexy Rex Yes that dance battle was way better. The last great lightsaber duel we see between people who can use them. After that the only people we see fighting with them are untrained children and crippled old men. Episode 4 onwards are basically the dark ages of lightsaber combat
It's such a shame that it's so brief, but I have to agree with you on that. RoTJ wasn't my favorite Star Wars film..I personally felt like they got kind of lazy towards the end of the saga. But that moment between Vader and Luke pretty much makes up for all of it. The music that plays when Luke lashes out is also amazing. This was always the scene that literally had me on the edge of my seat, as a kid.
Gumball im not saying its not dramatic or filled with tension. Im saying that the actual fighting isnt that great, due to Lukes lack of proper training and Vader being messed by Obi Wan in ROTS. picture luke from RoTJ (the most skilled we see him) and he gets skewered by any prequel Jedi/Sith
That shot where Luke and Vader are fighting behind the staircase all dark with the green/red lightsabers glowing and the music is my favorite moment in the entire Star Wars saga. I get the chills and want to cry every frigging time!
4:20 its pretty interesting to see how during this shot you can see darth vader's mastery over luke's. yes, Luke is winning, but look how effortless darth vader defends himself, while Luke is quite literally giving all that he has. Annakin had such a dominant prescence with the force when he was a Jedi and that cadence is still evident here. I just love that shot so much.
@@Present771 I guess I just meant in a purely physical sense. Like i get that he is losing. I just mean he’s literally using so much energy and Vader is just chillin. Lol
Love that final fight scene, Luke just flailing at random directions like a nutter. Vader must be thinking "omg noob do you even know what you're doing? you're just spamming attacks! what happened to coreography and aaaaagh my hand!"
Jared Griffin what I don't get is he cut off Vader's hand a robotic hand.so why the hell would he got so fked up even with his breathing getting all raspy like gulping for air.why would that happen when he lost his hand
He is integrated in a *cybernetic* suit that also acts as a life support system. I assume such a complex piece of technology doesn't handle being cut apart very well. Also, his integration into the suit is not without problems, and he is in constant pain from it +his injuries. He is basically a cripple and Luke just took a wheel off his wheelchair...
This fight is better than any in the sequel trilogy for one reason: it’s STORY driven.
Notice how there’s barely any actual fighting going on in all of this. Even in Empire, the real conflict wasn’t really physical, but psychological. And that’s what makes the OT so special, even despite some flaws in Return of the Jedi, like the second act & ewoks.
This segment alone stands out as one of the all time great Star Wars moments, and I love it!
you can't even compare the incredible and intense dialogue throughout this scene to any of the new ones.
Wait, the second act of Return of The Jedi? I would have thought people hated how the first quarter of the movie takes place on Tatooine, within the confines of Jabba’s palace and skiff, just trying to get Han Solo back into the squad.
If I saw this for the first time in 1983, I would have assumed that George Lucas spent a lot of time on that one part of the movie, completely forgot that there was all of Endor and Death Star II to film, and then scrambled to get Endor done quickly while also incorporating the Ewoks for the little kids watching.
Not gonna lie though, I loved Return of The Jedi, especially the final space battle.
itwontcomeout5678 I would probably say that this movie pulls a Rouge One/Endgame move in the sense that the third act makes up for almost any complaint you have had with the movie before... if that makes sense?
Anakin Vs Obi-Wan might be the best visual duel in the saga but this one holds the most meaning.
@@lebronfan8051 that's the first ever scene of star wars i saw as a kid. with the battle of heroes epic soundtrack playing. got hooked
Notice how Vader said “obi wan has taught you well” soon as Luke had the high ground
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He took the high ground not once but twice 😆
Maybe Anakin should've tossed his lightsaber at Obi-Wan, instead of doing that flip.
Nobody realises that Yoda was the one who trained him the most. Also he doesn’t even tell the Emperor cause I bet that would trigger him.
@@TheInvincibleH except in the instance that he's had interaction with Force ghost Obi Wan since ESB. So there's a good amount he still could have learned from him, given that he visited Luke and Yoda often enough.
Luke: It’s over father I have the high ground
Vader: I’m not doing that again
(throws lightsaber)
He learns from his mistakes
“Not this shit again....”
Hello there
aw shit, here we go again
"Obi-Wan has taught you well"
“I will not fight you” I love Star Wars when it’s handled by the right writers
"I've heard that before"
@@hatman3445 Exactly
" I will not fight you "
Nerd fanboys : " OMMMMMGGGGGG HE TRAINED HE TRAVLLED AND DONT WANNA FIGHT LUKE IS THE MMMMMMMMGGGG HE IS THE GAAAWD "
Then after luke rage a bit swing is sword left to right with no accuracy whatsoever
You fanboys still be like : " OMMMMG SOOOO GOOOD WRITING "
So whats good now that hes the " good guy " or the " raging guy "
Cause in the end he won cause of his rage and not cause hes good xD
The writing in this 3 first movies are so bad.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763Vader was threatening his sister. Of course he became angry. He wasn’t thinking.
@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 The writing's not perfect but it's way better than the shit that disney put's out.
I love how Luke ignores Vader's threats to turn him to the dark side, but loses his shit when he threatens Leia.
He went full protective mode is as dark as a Jedi can get not to destroy but keep those safe
You threaten my sister.
You die..!
In the novelization of ROTJ it goes into what Luke is thinking at that moment. He decides Leia is the only hope if he fails. He can't let Vader get to her. He'll kill Vader and himself to stop that from happening.
Skywalker males go ape-sh*t when it comes to the women in their lives.
Come on, who does not love his sister. (and I didn't meant in in the wrong way.)
Remember guys, this is the only true end for Star Wars.
@@Innersanctum_you can't even tolerate someone's opinion?
@@Innersanctum_ Mate, the "sequels" (calling them that is a joke in and of itself) are what I wipe my ass with after trying to digest the epicness that is Episodes IV to VI.
I agree, there is only One true end with episode 6
The star wars fandom is the worst
Saksham Sharma I think he’s making a joke about prequel memes lol
Luke: I don’t wanna fight you dad
Vader: I wouldn’t wanna fight me neither
Pizza time!
Come on Vader, Stop..
either*
Then Vader drops his Saber and starts throwing punches
Martijn Mulder doesn’t nobody learn about double negatives? ...lol
I love how when Vader is defeated he puts his hand out almost to say "Don't fall into the same trap i feel into." Love it.
Rught. I dont Vader did that to plead Luke to spare him or anything. It was more like him telling him to calm down for his own good and not join the emperor. Vader’s ulterior motive has been to have Luke join him against tge emperor, nit the other way around. Vader didn't care if he died, it was just a plead for him to stop him on the progressive track he is on.
Robotic voice says all... He knows what you don't 🫀🦻
Well, Vader has been in Luke’s position before. Anakin should’ve spared Dooku, because it was not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed prisoner. In the same manner, Sidious tries to rid himself of Vader’s unrealized potential. But Luke comes to his senses and tosses down his weapon, declaring himself a Jedi in the footsteps of his father.
Also that's the umpteenth time he lost that same arm/hand 😅
The parallel between Vader’s missing hand and Luke’s matching, also robotic, black gloved hand is so perfect. A gentle reminder that Luke is one bad choice away from being consumed by the Dark Side, but he continues to fight to protect rather than to attack. Best Star Wars movie
The anger that Luke felt wasn't an anger of hate, it was one to protect the ones he loves. Much more powerful than Anakin's anger he felt when he wanted to gain power to help those he loved. This movie/scene brings so many emotions that you honestly don't care about the fight itself, rather the battle to save the ones you love from the Dark Side. This movie brings a great moral, it's easy to hate and destroy, but to love and fight for something, someone else is one of the greatest gifts we can give.
But you fail to realize that snger to protect his loved ones is the exact same anger anakin felt when he fell to the dark side.
but at the same time, we see that Luke looks at his own robotic hand and then back to vader's robotic hand to signify that he realizes that his anger is just like his own father's and if he continues then he'll turn to the dark side, hence why he throws away his lightsaber after his realization.
@sonicartzldesignerclan5763
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Love and hatred is ruled in a human brain in the same section what makes both the same feeling but you as human feel it different.
That makes your point pointless.
Righteous anger. Similar perhaps to that of Jesus flipping the tables in the synagogue
@@myamdane6895You're missing the entire point if you think this is righteous anger. This is what Palpatine wanted Luke to do. Luke's fear was triggered, just as Anakin's fear was. Fear is a very unhealthy emotion that can lead to anger and aggression. Understandable aggression? Absolutely. But can it lead to the dark side? Yes. Like Obi-wan said: "Your feelings do you credit, but they can be made to serve the Emperor"
1:22
*Luke has the high ground*
Vader: "Obi Wan has taught you well."
Josh Siegel haha sw episode three joke
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I love the fact that Vader does the safer option by doing the saber throw instead of engaging Luke at the High ground. It suggest that Vader has learned his lesson when it comes to engaging an opponent who has the high ground.
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Also, STOLEN COMMENT ALERT!
Luke: *jumps to high ground*
Vader: *vietnam flashbacks*
*Mustafar flashbacks*
no
*idk flashbacks*
Only because Luke ain't Vader's fortunate son!
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4:04 NOTHING will EVER top this sequence for me in all of Star Wars history. The emotion is so perfect, if there was a way to convey the force being distraught by conflict it is the music in this scene. If you could see the force visually you would see energy waves flushing out of every swing from Luke as he dominates Vader's own strength.
The music always hits hard
@@travpatrick6512It's John Williams. If we didn't use his music for movies, it'd be as revered as the likes of Beethoven and Mozart were.
This was a massive part of my childhood and I remember it better than most of my education
That's right Luke protect your sister. Kill Father protect Sister from abusive manipulating burned scarred up weak man.
Music be S tier
I remember watching this in the theatre the day it was released. from 4:19 - 4:39 the entire audience, we were on our feet jumping and cheering wildly. amazing memory.
Wow. I believe you.
I dont
@@monmothma3358
Because Americans are obnoxious like that.
I too saw it on opening day in a packed theater. They didn’t cheer until Vader’s hand was sabered off. Then they cheered again after Vader threw his master off the ledge. They never got on their feet but a good memory regardless.
@@randyjoe8253 Wow! you were in the same theater my friends and I were? My cousins were there too, remember? Crazy! What an amazing coincidence! Not that I don't believe you but do you remember the name of the the theater and the location and the time of the showing? I do. Small world though. 🙄
"Obi Wan has taught you well..."
Luke standing atop the high ground.
The HIGH GROUND shall rule everything
Who would win anakin in a star fighter or obi wan with infinite highground
@@chilling_at_pontiff that means the High Ground is above the galaxy
@Obi-Wan Kenobi General Kenobi!
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"i am defenceless"
"you literally have my lightsaber and my cyborg dad guarding you, man fuck off."
CXimines he's goading
....and the full power of the Dark Side.
Imagine if Luke didn't care as much as he did here and went... "Ok fuck this shit Sidious you're too fucking annoying and dangerous to be kept alive, I'm going to kill you because I want to practice my Jedi beliefs in peace!" (Wham!)
Technically, the whole scenes from start of the Throne room was more like a family gathering and deadly argument between Father and Son. Darth Sidious you're a fucking outsider with no business butting into their family affair gtfo man.
Sidious wasn't going to defend himself. He would've willingly been a martyr for Luke's anger to just take his place knowing the only known Jedi just screwed up his chance to make things right.
UltimaKeyMaster If he don't, Luke decided not to kill him out of anger but out of the fact that as long as Darth Sidious stays alive, Luke will never be able to practice his Jedi beliefs in peace.
Then went "meh" at the Dark Side and went to live happily ever after because Darth Vader suddenly doesn't seem to care that much about striking down in anger or not because he's too busy going all over the places telling everyone that he has a son and a daughter.
I love when Darth Vader says "Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me, now his failure is complete" when discovering Leia exists as well.
Theres something so heavy about Anakin's absolute resentment toward Obi-wan that he views the possibility of corrupting or destroying his own children as a means of achieving some sort of victory over his former master.
His darkness makes him so desperate to prove Obi-Wan is inferior - that part of him would destroy his own children just to prove that Obi-wan failed to keep them safe.
What a twistedly tragic character Anakin is.
I believe anakin said all that about leia to trigger his son's rage. Mind games. I sense that anakin wanted luke to kill him. Wanted to be put out of his misery
No that's what Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious wanted him to do and not spill the beans just like Count Dooku did when Anakin Skywalker killed him.
Luke wanted to strike down Palpatine because he thought:
"If I kill Palpatine I end the war right? And my dad goes free no killing him."
Still one of the most emotional fights in Star Wars History. Just them talking to each other as a Father and Son. Luke wants to save his Father at all cost. But when Vader said about Leia, all the best were off. It went from wanting to save his father, to Protect my Sister. Still hits you in the feels and you watch them fighting again and Luke is so aggressive to point Vader can no longer keep up. The Story telling in this Trilogy will always be my all time favorite.
I'm old enough now to understand the significance of that line about her. He's trying to provoke luke. Vader wants to see his son's rage. Typical fatherly mind games
Only a parent can bring that kinda rage outta u😅
The moment Luke yells "Never" and the musical buildup with the fight and everyone still gets me everytime
Same! The anger Luke shows while fighting his father combined with the musical score that plays after Luke yells “Never!” still gives me goosebumps to this day, just like it did when I first saw the movie with my mom back in 2011.
Never gets old
@@scottishpancakes that was probably a combination of the hate he had for him killing obi wan and threatening his sister
Ironically @4:20 the best part
The Chairsofter Pretty much the best Moment in all of Star Wars
Anyone ever think that Vader actually stopped his son from striking down the Emperor in hate so that he didn’t end up like him?
In my opinion Anakin bounced back for a second here.
Sure, I'm sure Vader certainly didn't want his son to spend decades serving as a slave to the Emperor.
I think I’m a way it was confirmed in one of the sequels
Exactly what I was thinking.
That was my initial thought when I first saw this scene !!
The greatest Sith Lord ever, the greatest Force wielder ever and the greatest Jedi master ever all in the same room. Incredible.
Obi wan.
@Webby104 you could argue luke was fighting with the spirit of obi wan
@@Webby104Bro be chillin in the nether
Yoda:
@@macaroniwithdachickenstrip8684 Nah he aint
Something I love about the final burst against Vader is the music.
Its somber and sober, it knows whatvthis is: A Father against a Son. A fight that shouldn't be happening naturally. This isn't triumphant, this isn't glorious, this is a tragedy.
All translated through music.
Well said
Major props to John Williams
You gotta give it to Palpatine though for respecting the 1v1.
Palpatine was a gamer
Palpatine wanted to know if Luke was powerful enough to defeat Vader(he was).
It's basically the Dooku situation(both scenes are purposefuly similar).
If Luke dies, Palpatine still has Vader as his powerful apprentice and the threat of a Jedi that could surpass Palpatine is gone.
If Luke defeats and kills Vader, he gets an even stronger apprentice.
It's a win-win scenario for him(until Luke refuses to kill Vader, of course)
Wish I could say that for Palpatine mains in hero showdown 🤦♂️
@@grievous8475 fr
He was trying to turn Luke
I love how Vader sounds so sadistic when he says "sister"
Me too
pervert
@@robertd4100 bruh hes her father
@@namast3260 that's the idea
@@jaredbremer941 oh dear
4:04 Vader truly felt fear with that quick, desperate breath. He saw his son embrace the Dark Side.
Wasn't he trying to bait him?
@@crzahmed9707he was. I guess that he didn't expect that Luke would respond in the way that he did.
@@haywoodjexactly
I know and it's sad aswell because Luke could have killed vader in his rage and become the new sith lord that replaces vader
The tracking shot past the stairs with Luke and Vader fighting behind it is one of my favorite shots in any movie, EVER!!! Especially with the amazing score on top of it!
I like how Darth Vader keeps bringing up Obi Wan when he fights Luke almost like he's obsessed with him, which makes sense after RotS
I like that too. So many layers to this story
Me But did Vader spend 12 years on Lotho Minor eating trash food to survive?
Probably he wants to taunt Luke to reach the dark side: he killed Obi-Wan just in front of Luke and Luke was strongly upset when that happened.
It's like poetry so it rhymes
And since obi wan taught him barely anything and yoda’s the guy who actually trained him
2:12
Luke Skywalker: It's over father! I have the high ground
Vader: Not this again.. *throws saber*
Philip M your original
grammarly.com
Obi-Wan: It's over Luke, i have the high ground.
Luke: What?
Obi-Wan: Nothing.
Lol xD
Philip M
4:07 idk why but the orchestra really adds so much
Cuz it draws on all the events that lead to this moment
No kidding: this is among my favorite pieces of scoring in the Star Wars series.
its the one of the best scores in sw imo my fav
“I will not fight you” -Luke
-Ashoka
“I’ve heard that before”-Anakin
Lmao you cant leave out words from a sentence in a quote, “I will not fight you father” is the correct quote. Not the same as Ahsoka
Ashoka is hella cringa get out of here
@@TheLuc224you’re cringe
Sometimes it feels like open disrespect how they club you in the face with lines like that. I think it might feel cool and like they're purposely echoing the original movies if they just made better shows to put these lines in.
@@TheMisterGuy don’t know wtf you’re talking about ahsoka is just about the best thing Disney has given us in Star Wars other than clone wars season 7 or mandalorian season 2
Luke: ah yes, my father who has killed millions is still good.
Also luke: ah yes, my nephew is having a bad dream... *Time to kill a dude.*
Disney logic my man
I know right, he tried talking to Vader at least.
Joe Vines Disney sucks. It’s not real Luke.
Vader hated himself after a lifetime of bad decisions.
Ben was on the edge between dark and light, and the prospect of someone so strong with the force giving in frightened Luke, so much he instinctively drew his weapon. He reigned himself in, but by then his nephew saw all the evidence he needed to commit to the dark.
@@Avenger85438 hence why vader was conflicted but luke saw the light still in him, anyways thats not the point, the point is luke saw good in vader even after everything he did from hunting jedi he once knew and trained with etc to killing children, i would consider killing children a no going back momentm yet even after that luke still saw good in his father, yet luke could not see good in his own nephew and that was without ben drawing his lightsaber to lukes jedi academy
When Luke yells " Never " and unleashes all his rage on Vader after suggesting he'd turn Leia gives me chills every damn time
Me too. And the music is on point.
Actually, Luke screams "No!!"
@@drunksquirrel2051 No he definitely doesn’t😂 the subtitles AND script say never & it doesn’t even sound that much like no in the first place
He screams "Darth" you peanuts
@@lucaswest5078 uh oh. Is this another Mandela effect?
4:15 The most powerful scene ever made.
The best part was how Palpatine was complimenting them both throughout their fight, "Good...Good". 😆
Gooddddd
This Luke would have destroyed Kylo Ren in 5 seconds
I think you mean 'luke would kill Kylo and Rey in 1 second
Lukáš Semecký Lol ur only saying that because you hate Ren as a character, I personally say this fight would last about 2 minutes, whilst Ren is extremely powerful, he doesn't have the experience or skill to defeat Luke.
@@williamryder8497 Yes, I hate him because he killed Han Solo and I don't like shitty sequels either
@@williamryder8497 ok you're right, i was definitely exaggerating a little their but no doubt luke would win even if its not in a second
William Ryder you saying that ren is able to match up to someone who managed to move a black hole single handedly with the force?
Luke starts winning - Sith Lord - “gooooood”
Vader starts winning - Sith Lord - “gooooood” 😂😂😂😂
Just cool with it either way lol
Leigh Ramsay and don’t forget goooooooooood 😂😂
Palpatine never stopped playing both sides.
Glad someone notice that.
Goooood...
TROS Palps to Kylo:
Kill the girl
TROS Palps to Rey:
Ah cool you are here
2:46
"Obiwan has taught you well"
It only just _now_ occured to me...Vader thinks Obiwan has been teaching Luke all this time...
_He never learned of Yoda..._
It is because Luke is holding the high ground
Vader just can't get Obi wan out of his mind he's always thinking about him even tho he's dead 😭
I love how the movie handles Luke's short fall.
it's not the offer of power, or anything like that. Rather it's the fact that wants to protect his sister, it overwhlems him and for a moment he slips and he falls into it. And then seeing his dad's robotic hand, the same to what he has, it pulls him back.
It's the urge to protect his family that pulls him towards the dark side, and it's seeing what the dark side did to his family that pulled him out
Notice how Vader is never on the offensive in this scene. The whole fight is him blocking Luke’s attacks. And when he does try to take a swing at him, he goes for either his arms or legs as if to incapacitate him rather than kill him.
tyson66331 also he never force chocked him which he totally could do
He was trying to get him to the darkside
tyson66331 darth Vader was conflicted and was not trying to kill like so if he was he would of easily killed him
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 Here's another little fact that will get you thinking even more. In Empire Strikes Back he proposes to luke to join him and kill the empire. Vader was in conflict with many things.
@@originaler31er67 which can relate with how anakin choked padme and was tricked by the emperor that he killed her. Now he don't want the same fate happen to his son and he wants luke to join the darkside
Evil vs Good
Old vs New
Father vs Son
*This was the Ultimate Battle.*
new tho😳😳😳😳
Berd high vs low ground
And then disney trilogy happens...
Prequels may not have been perfect, but at least their final duel was just as meaningful and emotional as this one. TROS end battle was just nonsense.
interesting how you realize new becomes old, son becomes father, so will good become evil, with enough time?
Bolek Lolek the disney trilogy never happened SHUSH
1:48 this split part was genius. Luke mentions not wanting to fight him and Vader slowly walks up the steps as if he doesn't to either. The fact they made that small clip relatively quiet before Vader struck at Luke waa smart. It genuinely gave me a jumpscare lmfao
Here's an interesting thought. When Luke was about to strike down the Emperor, did Vader block it to protect his master, or did Anakin stop Luke from falling into the Dark side the way the Emperor wanted him to?
Whoa… chills.
I think it's more the latter.
The novel confirms Vader did it to protect Palpatine.
He dien't believe killing Palpatine would be enough to turn Luke. He INMEDIATELY regrets the decision, since Luke focuses his anger on him.
Emperor was so much better than Snoke
tbh glad Snoke is gone. Kylo is more intresting.
They're both pretty 2d cliché villains and are only there in order to set up Vader or Kylo. But I still love them both.
+Not so awesome guy
Kylo is just a whiny emo Vader fanboy
snoke and kylo visually are rip offs of snape and voldemort
I actually liked Andy Serkis' performance but the character itself is trash.
0:54 Darth Vader wasn't saving Palpatine... He was saving Luke
YES!! I totally agree. The “good” in him saved Luke right then and there, although at that point he hadn’t fully turned back to the light and was still conflicted. Good call!
I am glad that I am not the only one who had that thought! Also, even though I had already watched the prequels, when Vader prevented Luke to kill Palpatine I came to the conclusion that even as a Sith Lord, Anakin is still the Chosen One, the end of the Sith will come by him not by Luke.
Finally someone else who thinks the same! I’ve said this to so many people and none agreed with me but like it’s so obvious.
I request elaboration. Like was he saving Luke by not letting him kill the Emperor and fall into the dark side? Is that what it means?
@@AyushSharma-hx9sw Yes
4:20 the choreography and camera angle is simply brilliant
Anyone else here after watching Ahsoka? "I've heard that before"
Yep
*luke kicks vader down a flight of stairs*
“I will not fight you father.”
*then proceeds to cut his arm off*
When he says that, you can hear the break in his voice; he sounds like he’s about to cry.
He said this after Cidious replica about hate So by that way he decided to confront Emperor.
He just fought him
Proceeds To Cut His Own Dad Own Arm.
I DoNt wAnT tO fIgHt yOu dAd!
i fEeL gOod iN yOu
Vader After Luke Cut His Arm : yeah you feel good in me because i was good and the bad one was you who lied to not fight and then cut someone hand then want to get help from people who his hand were cutted by you
I always liked how Luke looks at Vader's missing hand and sees it's machine and then looks at his own machine hand, and realizes he's on his way to becoming his father.
Losing hands is a running theme for the skywalkers
@@IceBlueStarCat Leia managed I guess
@@Itsyaboyharry98 yeah…
And thats also the hand that mace windu lost
I wish Rey got her hand chopped off so she then can truely call herself a "Skywalker"
This franchise, this whole thing, the idea that it’s not a story between good and evil, but the fact that man can choose good or evil, the duality of man, is still the best and most beautiful portrayal of this concept I have ever seen. This scene specifically, portrays a concept that I, and maybe a lot of other men can relate to. The conflict between father and son. The struggle between impressing him, and still deciding what is good and what is bad yourself. I often come back to this scene when I have conflict with him. Even though as a grown man, he still somewhat scares me, I fear that my fury and anger will not just beat, defeat, overcome his shit, but will also make the process of me becoming him complete, as the Emperor says. George Lucas is a genius, and this franchise/movie remains the most beautiful piece of art I still have yet to see in my entire life.
Obi-Wan and Ahsoka could pierce the veil that was Darth Vader, but in the end only his son could set him free.
Luke: *has the high ground* “You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I believe you won’t destroy me now”
Vader: “you underestima- wait a second...”
Oh not this shit again
*Throws lightsaber instead*
Vader: Probably should have done this the first time
Vader: I'm not falling for the same shit twice.
He was confident that the Dark Side could beat the High Ground once. It cost him his limbs.
Ah shit here we go again
Vader: “perhaps your sister will”
Luke: “Nooooooo” *destroys his father*
Vader: “holy shit, why did I speak”
Fun fact: Luke says 'Neverrrrrrr' not 'Nooooooo'
“perhaps your she will” and "argghhhhhhh"
because vader wants to be destroyed
lmao
@@jolkzy2344 That's a lie
My kids always said "Vader just gave up there, didn't really fight, that was lame". I had to explain to them that Vader didn't want to kill his son in the first place, and that when Jedi fight there is another level to it than just swinging glowy sticks around. The absolute righteous wrath Luke brought to bear completely overwhelmed Vader. That is why Luke was able to win so quickly. And when he let go of that wrath immediately after, that is when he truly won. When Vader saw that, and the punishment Luke withstood from Sidious, the decision was made. His son before anything else.
John williams you fucking amazing artist. The soundtrack is absolutely encapsulating during that final fight
After Luke shouts “Never!” And the chorus begins is just utterly chilling and amazing
WHOA IS THAT HIT RAPPER AND ARTIST DABABY?
And they say Mark Hamill is a bad actor 🙄
Single greatest piece of music in Star Wars for me.
@@matthewpaul6904 For realz that chorus has always hit so hard when their battling right there, just so good.
@@daustin8888 He's not a bad actor, but he was admittedly the weakest actor of the OT.
Palpatine : hey kid,you must join the dark side!!!
Luke : nah
Palpatine : shit,i forget to tell him about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise.
Also palpatine: damnit, does he even know that I am the Senate?
@@wormie077 not yet
@Vansh Ruhela i am the senate
@@MAT589 This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
@@thatoneturtle7737 the negotiations were short
I knew it... in the last episode of Ahsoka series, she said "i won't fight you", and Anakin said "i've heard that before", i knew i saw it here.
"There is no conflict" and how luke snaps is my favorite parts, god that is so great
"Obi-wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete." that gives me chills, the huge amount of history in that line alone!
I read that during the scene XD
Can we just appreciate Ian McDiarmid in this? You can truly FEEL the darkness in sideous, you can feel the weight of his words, his gravitas. A truly incredible performance from a truly incredible actor.
How about when he smiles in delight after saying "and now young Skywalker you will die" and starts frying him again enjoying the pain he he is inflicting.
Well said
McDiarmid just blew my mind in this in 83.he is the devil!
Good, good.
I always loved him.
I love Ian!!
the scene as vader and luke are re-emerging from below the stairs is so powerful with the music and the energy between them
For all the new kids watching this, you have to understand when this film came out back in the day there simply wasn't any sci fi film like this (not that I can think of any way). There were no 4K ultra HD TV's or cameras, smart phones and all this other tech we have in our hands now. There was no RUclips or PS5 or Xbox. Now imagine the impact a film of this level had on people in a techless world.
The music when Luke engages him after Vader mentions his sister is off the chain good! John Williams man
That music always gets me but it’s sad though cuz I watch it over and over again. Sorry Vader. RIP😭😭😭😭😩😩😩😩😩
But when Vader mentioned his sister, I was like,”Vader! Mm ya moron you are an incapable with lord! Ya price of shit!”
jacob romero i always thought the same.
It makes this duel the best in starwars history.
If I remember correctly, it is called "A Jedi's Fury".
Vader “give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends”
Owen “Like it saved Padme?”
😂
SHOTS FIRED.
Vader might be the Lord of the Sith, but Owen is Lord of the Shade
too orginal
I think he is forced to act like that in front of Palpatine despite knowing that it's false
Luke: It’s over, father! I have the high ground!
Vader: *I’m not falling for this shit again..*
Nothing beats this moment in any of the Starwars films. Not even Anakin Vs obiwan. This is truly beautiful.
No it's dogshit pathetic. Luke swings it like a baseball bat and Vader just trips over his own legs
This is the real luke, not Disney's version
I like the new Luke.People change.Yoda had changed a lot after the fall of the Jedi,why Luke couldn´t had changed too?
Yoda never changed, he was always a serious Jedi until the end of his days. The same thing with Obi Wan and both had sense of responsibility even when they died and they became force's ghosts. They both lived a worst tragedy than Luke because of the order 66 and the exile for about 20 years suffering a lot. The direction Disney took on Luke doesn't have any sense.
Dameon Echol
There is no real Luke. If u study sociology u would understand that people change according to their circumstances and surroundings. The “real Luke” u speak of is the Luke from 30 yrs ago/ the Luke in Last Jedi is one now. You must accept this young skywalker u have a lot to learn in life.
Lol even mark Hamill himself said that he disagrees with how his character was written in the last jedi
The last jedi makes Luke so fuckin stupid, here we see he's trying to convince and get his father back to good and in the last jedi he tried to kill Ben just because of a vision??
4:04 When Luke screams "never" and charges vader always gets me. The background music is so powerful. John Williams is a legend and No one can ever really replace him.
ShiftyWolf 117 What’s the song man ?
@@hmzspc Jedis fury.
Man it just took me now to realize that luke screams "never" instead of "DARTH" like i've always thought until now.
Very, very true. Although, I'd say that should it ever come to needing a replacement that either Michael Giacchino or Alan Silvestri would be the best choices. Not saying we *need* - or *want* - a replacement of John Williams, but if there ever is one, I'd say it's a choice between Michael and Alan.
Michael Giacchino did damn good in Rogue one
For those arguing Luke did indeed surpass Vader once he used Jedi Fury,fully tapping into the darkside.
The novel itself states that Palpatine himself was afraid of that power being used against him,with Sidious saying Luke could destroy them,with many other sources also sighting this.
The novel also says that Sidious confidence in that moment was an act as Luke looked within him and sensed his fear.
So Luke very briefly attained power comparable to and superior to that of Sidious but once he calms down he loses the rage boost and fatigue also sets in(as it happens after a fight is over and you calm down from rage)leaving him vulnerable,along with dropping his lightsaber like the lovable naive fool that he is.
This is impressive for Vader cause he held his own against this power and Luke still had to put a lot of effort to beat him down,this solidifies that Vader is relative to Sidious power in this film,Lucas statement of EP6 Vader being 80% of Sidious makes a lot of sense under this context.
Without using the darkside Luke was an equal overall tier with Vader but definetly weaker and on the lower end,with him somewhat gaining the advantage by using his aggressive feelings when kicking Vader down.
But normally you can tell Vader has a definitive edge
100% agree. I've said before in conversations with people about this scene that in those fleeting moments during Luke's rage, he could've beaten almost anybody, including Palpatine himself. Palp always knew that a Luke with no restraint would be a threat, but to see it right in front of you makes that threat much more immediate and startling.
I like how the emperor is loving every moment of this. It's like he's got the premium seats in a prize boxing match
HEAD CANON:Vader blocks the lightsaber from killing the emperor cause he doesn't want Luke to turn.
now that you mention it that does make sense i miss the old star wars....
Wow. You are a genius!
True - that was in the books almost 30 years ago when I read polish translation!
Yeah, Anakin didn't want his son to turn into him. He basically save the entire galaxy from a dark Luke.
Perhaps, but it isn't like the Emperor would have let Luke hit him anyway.
He wants a new apprentice, not someone to replace him.
Something that crossed my mind was that Vader was right. If Luke failed here he would have certainly been able to turn Leia. The death of her planet and finally her brother would definitely tip her over the edge and make her much more susceptible to the dark side
“Only your hatred can destroy me.”
thats exactly what happened in that "What if" comic they made if Luke's torpedo failed to take out the Death Star. Vader and Palps captured Leia again, and found out through the force the truth behind her heritage. They started to train her, and well, she went full sith
I watched the movie again yesterday and i just wonder: Why Lea? Why even Luke? Sidious knew Luke was stronger and wasnt easy to convince to become part of the dark side. It was obvious he wouldnt turn, so the whole dark side aspect was kinda irrelevant. Even more with Lea. She wasnt even a Jedi, why would they try to get her to the dark side?
Im certain vader only said that to anger luke and lure him out of hiding.
@@CODA96 because Luke is the son of the chosen one and has tons of untapped potential power. Palpatine wants the most powerful force user as his apprentice, which he apparently wants to possess at some point. That fight between Vader and Luke was basically a test. between who is the most powerful force user.
When Luke chose the light over the dark, this right here was a temper tantrum if anything. Palpatine finally ad someone who could beat his best servant, and this guy refused to work for him.
@@ethanharmer5151 I still dont get the whole situation at all. Luke had no reason to join the Dark Side. Literally none.
Anakin joined the dark side because he believed he could save Padme with these powers. Palpatine was slowly manipulating him for years about the Jedi Council being corrupt and fueling his hate towards not becoming a master, aswell as his arrogance to be the strongest.
It made perfect sense, but why Luke??? Palpatine neither manipulated him, and neither did they have Lea or Han as a Hostage. Hell, Palpatine even showed him that the rebellion is ''lost'' and everyone would die, if anything thats MORE reason to destroy Palpatine and NOT join the dark side.
I really dont wanna say this, but this just feels like bad writing. Palpatine should have blown up endor while Luke was on it and be done with it. Luke had 0 reason to join him and was stronger than Vader, so Palpatine literally killed himself.
Anakin really has heard that before huh
4:35 I love how you can tell how emotional he is just by the swinging of a lightsaber
then he cuts off vaders hand and sees not flesh but machine.... just like how lukes own hand was cut off in ep 5 and replaced by a machine. he sees himself going down the same path as his father
Vader:
“If you will not turn to the dark side then perhaps she will.”
Luke:
“NEVER!”
Idk why but those lines give me chills.
Daniel DeHerrera same
That’s because Vader will probably do something bad to Leia (idk what exactly) to attempt to turn her to the dark side and Luke’s like “NOPE”
The music with the lines. Music tells you how you are supposed to feel in moments like this.
I always heard it as a sloppy ‘nooo’. Now I can’t unhear never and it feels cringe
@@g1keitorin765 But that was too bad for Vader since Leia died in Rise of Skywalker :(
Idk how but the music is just totally on point
John Williams man
It is so good. The final clash is insanely good. This is a cinematic masterpiece.
I feel bad for whoever is leading heaven's orchestra, because when John Williams passes, they are out of a job.
One word: CHILLS
It rises like a dread fear at the fearful power of good in us all.. just because you have the enemy backed into a corner and defeated doesn't mean you should beat them to death until there's nothing left. That is how evil changes travels from one form to another.
Agreed it’s so underrated
The atmosphere, the lighting, the music, and the emotion makes this my favorite scene in Star Wars history
With Ahsoka:
“I won’t leave you, not this time.”
“Then you will die.”
With Obi Wan:
“I will do what I must.”
“Then you will die.”
With Luke:
“You couldn’t bring yourself to kill me before and I don’t believe you’ll destroy me now.”
“You underestimate the power of the dark side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny.”
I love this story.
Almost as if hes saying: "my boy i need to teach you how to survive, it is lesson time or you will die."
Imagine bringing up that Ahsoka trash. That ain't real SWs.
Ahsoka is not NOT CANON
Only know the Luke one
After seeing how vader was portrayed in "Jedi Fallen Order" I realize just how powerful luke is to be fighting Vader
But also, Vader was SEVERELY holding back, because he didn't want to kill Luke
Coolio Star Stache so was luke he didnt want to kill his father
and fallen order was decades before battle of yavin New Hope or even ROTJ, and was 5 years after anakin became darth vader, so at the time he was fully more powerful and at great potential as a dark lord. but as powerful as he is even at old age, yes he defintelty still have power but its not as strong as in the past, and yet he was holding back (his dark side feelings too) against luke so luke won.
@@traninhlong7303 but he did go agro for a sec so technically he didn't hold back
@@xylonus vader defiantly didn't hold back in this fight. If he did he would have made kill strikes in this fight.
Notice how Palatine said "strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete"
Luke goes for him, but is stopped by Vader. Like Vader was preventing Luke from fulfilling the same fate as he once did...signs of Anakin coming back...
😭😭😭
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Vader could've backstabbed the Emperor. Luke alone, or Vader alone maybe couldn't beat the Emperor, but together they could beat him easy. If they had killed him they would both be on the dark side? Is this not what Vader wanted, to rule with his son? If he changed his mind about turning Luke then backstabbing the Emperor seems ideal, but then Vader would stay on the dark side and inevitably Luke would follow? Or was Vader so conflicted that it affected his reason? It seems, for the sake of the story, Vader had to die in order to be redeemed. Him surviving would not have done it. Say he did backstab the Emperor and then turned to the light. What then? That's not enough for redemption, also no one would ever accept Vader back in the rebellion, or new republic or whatever - the "good guys" wouldn't have him that's for sure.
Like when Anakin killed Dooku
@@klauseskelinen8168 Underrated by who? Wyho did underrate it?
Best lightsaber duel ever committed to film.
And Obi Wan vs Anakin in the Sith's Revenge
Here after the Ahsoka episode and originally I thought she said that on Malachor, but she said "I won't leave you."
I love how he said "I've heard that before" basically confirms that she wasn't fighting a vision of Anakin, but actually him.
4:05 that breathing is like he said "oh shit!"
That wasn't a breath, that was a gasp
@@FKMDC oh sorry smartsss
Bayonet charge
@@kezhasercarlawvlogs smartsss
4:10 Ma
I love the visual story telling in this scene. Especially when Luke's face is half in the shadow and half in the light as he is tempted by the darkside. Then when he lets his anger get the better of him he is obscured by the shadows and attacks.
Damn that's genius I didn't even notice that
Eh reading too much into it. Luke will never be Anakin he is too just.
Dude I never noticed that, this scene was already my fav but now nothing will ever beat it
That also happens in force awakens when Ben kills Han
Dude, I just made a comment about the same thing. I noticed it a long time ago when watching ROTJ, since it is my favorite movie of the entire Star Wars series. I brought up the "find" utility to see if anyone else possibly noticed this small but VERY crucial "tell" as far as what Luke was internally thinking and the possible future path Luke might take as far as his current choices were about to seal the deal for him.
This very small cut of the scene is pretty much what sealed the deal for me on why my vote goes to ROTJ when saying which Star Wars I like best!!
It really highlights the fact we all have choices in life and even in the most dire of situations, no matter how difficult it seems it might be when considering the consequences of our moment to moment choices, at the very worst it's a 50/50 decision and the easy way out never pays off like choosing what is good for us in the long run!!
Thanks for being "that guy!" I was super duper hoping that someone else picked up on this very small detail given the gravity of the scene and how things turned out afterwards!
Palpatine really destroys this young man’s life and manipulates him into fighting his son and having front row seats to this fight gives him the biggest smile he’s ever had. Guy is truly evil
i like how we all agree this is one of the best duel in the whole series even if it's an old one, and it's definitely the most emotional one
FUCK. DISNEY. THIS is the only version of Luke, who redeemed the galaxy's greatest monster because he felt some flicker of good within him, and would go on to marry Mara Jade and found the New Jedi Order.
Hate on Disney all you want, but at least Mandalorian and Rogue One met our desires.
@@hammerbro1947
Clone Wars???
@@dariusfarrel3228 That too.
Disney. Part of the Empire 😡
I wouldn't say fuck Disney entirely, just the sequel trilogy. I liked everything else they gave us, like the spin-offs, Clone Wars season 7, Bad Batch
"..then perhaps she WILL"
Luke: "NEVER!!!"
Vader: (gasp)!
Surprised Pikachu face
It was at this moment Annie knew...he fucked up.
Me: *O h s h i t*
He doesn't say 'Never", he just yells
@@dostap7748 yes he does listen again
Just gotta comment and say he remembered Luke saying that to him😅❤
Anakin was holding back.
No matter what their sons have done truly good father's will always protect them.
Until the vultures come.
Yes. Anakin wanted luke to kill him. Put him out of his misery. He's been miserable since amidala died.
He provokes Luke intentionally
Yup. The whole fight was a charade. Finally realized this now in my 40s
Definitely the greatest and most personal lightsaber duel,for me.
Look_over' My personal fave is Anakin vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith
Yes, people are entitled to think different opinions than you Rexy.
Rexy Rex Yes that dance battle was way better. The last great lightsaber duel we see between people who can use them. After that the only people we see fighting with them are untrained children and crippled old men. Episode 4 onwards are basically the dark ages of lightsaber combat
It's such a shame that it's so brief, but I have to agree with you on that. RoTJ wasn't my favorite Star Wars film..I personally felt like they got kind of lazy towards the end of the saga. But that moment between Vader and Luke pretty much makes up for all of it. The music that plays when Luke lashes out is also amazing. This was always the scene that literally had me on the edge of my seat, as a kid.
Gumball im not saying its not dramatic or filled with tension. Im saying that the actual fighting isnt that great, due to Lukes lack of proper training and Vader being messed by Obi Wan in ROTS. picture luke from RoTJ (the most skilled we see him) and he gets skewered by any prequel Jedi/Sith
That shot where Luke and Vader are fighting behind the staircase all dark with the green/red lightsabers glowing and the music is my favorite moment in the entire Star Wars saga. I get the chills and want to cry every frigging time!
Then they ruin it with that crappy ending. Vader should have tripped or something and then Luke gets his hand.
@Funnel Star He doesn't even know, that's why he hasn't replied in 4 months lol.
The Vigilant dumbass that reply was a month ago and you say he hasnt replied in 4? Get a fucking brain dude
@@ncrtrooper4104 lmao
@FBI you idiot he’s referring to the first reply on the thread
I love how vader said - "obi-wan has taught you well" as luke had the high ground 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Luke: "I have the high ground, father!"
Vader: "Nope, ain't fallin' for that again lol"
Vader: Aw, shirt here we go again
*throws lightsaber*
Right
Josh K lmao😂
4:19 This travelling may be the best shot in the entire Star Wars saga.
That scene is fucking awesome!
I also enjoy the scene with the imperial officers in rank as the camera pans to jerjerrod walking to greet the arriving vader.
ive always always always thought that too since i was a kid. Loved seeing that scene travel across screen. its done epic.
It is
Music is on point
4:20 its pretty interesting to see how during this shot you can see darth vader's mastery over luke's. yes, Luke is winning, but look how effortless darth vader defends himself, while Luke is quite literally giving all that he has. Annakin had such a dominant prescence with the force when he was a Jedi and that cadence is still evident here. I just love that shot so much.
@@Present771 I guess I just meant in a purely physical sense. Like i get that he is losing. I just mean he’s literally using so much energy and Vader is just chillin. Lol
He lost lol
This has GOT to be the most badass fight in the original trilogy. George Lucas just improved more and more with each movie!
2:35 "It's over, father, I have the high ground!"
"Oh, I'm not falling for that one again." **throws lightsaber**
I like how Vader says "Obi-Wan has taught you well" the minute Luke gets the high ground.
That’s actually the canonical reason he threw his lightsaber here
Luke: I have the high ground
Anakin: *Vietnam war flashbacks*
@@Mackllie *Mustafar flashbacks**
Lord Sauron good one 👆👍
Love that final fight scene, Luke just flailing at random directions like a nutter.
Vader must be thinking "omg noob do you even know what you're doing? you're just spamming attacks! what happened to coreography and aaaaagh my hand!"
apa123APA
Darth Vader: pro gamer
Luke: button masher
4:35 And yeah, the way he just gives up there. So staged
+Jared Griffin exactly
Jared Griffin what I don't get is he cut off Vader's hand a robotic hand.so why the hell would he got so fked up even with his breathing getting all raspy like gulping for air.why would that happen when he lost his hand
He is integrated in a *cybernetic* suit that also acts as a life support system. I assume such a complex piece of technology doesn't handle being cut apart very well. Also, his integration into the suit is not without problems, and he is in constant pain from it +his injuries. He is basically a cripple and Luke just took a wheel off his wheelchair...
The Green on Red is just so astechtically pleasing to me
❤💚
4:20 that dolly shot is so awesome. it’s probably one of george’s most artistic shots.