@@CaptainJetstream That's amazing! Aw man if only Count Dooku survived the Clone Wars and was a key Player during the Galactic Civil War! That is an awesome fact bro! 👌👍
Notice how Vader's breathing starts to speed up when choking the Imperial officer, signifying his rising anger and rage. God I love those little details lol
@@samtemdo8 It is suppose to happen when he talks because It is directly linked to his body lungs, so he doesn't need air to talk, only when he removed his helmet that his natural voice is used, but his suit allow him to talk and breath at the same time. It is explained in The Rise of Darth Vader.
Vader and thrawn were against the Death Star, vader because he thought the force was the ultimate power in the universe not some mechanical monstrosity, thrawn because he saw it as a waste of imperial resources and as tarkin’s vanity project
RIP Peter Cushing (May 26, 1913 - August 11, 1994), aged 81 RIP James Earl Jones (January 17, 1931 - September 9, 2024), aged 93 RIP David Prowse (July 1, 1935 - November 28, 2020), aged 85 You will be remembered as legends
@@dresheraton9276 As the equivalent of a fleet admiral and a governor, Tarkin has superiority over Vader. He's the one with the uniform, whilst Vader's just the Emperor's henchman. In Empire, Vader's given personal control over a fleet of Star Destroyers because the Emperor wants him to capture Luke. In that he only has to deal with lower down admirals and generals who he can push around and execute if they upset him.
He was just furious with the commander that had some sense in him and at Darth Vader for saying that the Force is stronger than the Death Star. And that... (Takes a bow) ...concludes the reason why he challenged Darth Vader.
Tarkin's thoughts lay just beneath his calm persona, the dude is a complete BOSS. His seething rage and hate for anyone not willing take every measure possible makes him a feared commander that even the Emperor admires when it comes to perseverance.
@@Cinemaphile7783 uh, untrue. Admiral Motti, the one Vader force chokes here, doesn't have a British accent. Neither does the officer with Vader on the Corvette at the beginning.
I like that cool admiral in white with mustaches. Doesn't move a muscle, when he sees the other guy choking he is still cool, just observes. Of all other guys in the room is most relaxed. Probably a veteran from Clone wars that have seen it all.
He's a reoccurring character in the 3d clone wars show as republic admiral, by a New Hope he's the head of the Imperial Security Bureau which are basically the secret police
He's learned to always be relaxed and to never show emotion to survive. In a government like that, when you show any sort of emotion, someone will resent you for it so you forces yourself to always look cool and like whatever is going on is something that doesn't bother you because you can easily handle it.
@@LOLMAN9538 The intro sequences of each episode do feel like they're in-universe republic propaganda sometimes, I did hear somewhere that they were meant to be reminiscent of old WW2-era US propaganda reels. Makes sense to use Yularen's voice for that given hes basically a personification of the republic's military
The actor that plays the officer is what really sells the scene. The way he actually makes it looks like he's being choked and immediately drops like a puppet with its strings cut after vader speaks is absolutely perfect
It's not just that either, it's when Tarkin says "fear of this battle station", his mouth turns into the most _subtle_ smug grin, because it more or less validates everything he just said.
The idea that tarkin is wearing slippers is hilarious For those who don't know Peter Cushing Wore night slippers because formal shoes hurt his feet. That's why he only has shots of his Upper Body
Deep down, he probably knew Motti (the officer getting choked) had it coming, but knew he still needed him around, so decided to let Vader have his moment before stopping him.
What makes Tarkin think he can control Vader he’s not a Sith Lord as he is. It’s not like he has a deactivation switch on his risk that will disable his healing system.
It's taken me this long to realise that Vaders line of "the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force" is foreshadowing of Luke using the force to destroy the Death Star
And Motti gets choked just as he’s about to fully utter the words: “Hidden Fortress,” the name of the 1958 film by Kurosawa, from which Lucas stole a great many of the scenes and character-relationships which make up this movie (it’s a good flick and worth checking out). All the sfx aside there’s quite a subtle and clever script underneath, which is how they were able to land such a cinematic titan as Guinness -so favoured by David Lean, who Lucas likewise idolised- because Alec found it such a page-turner. The pan when the two enter until Tarkin sits down is so well done as to be unnoticeable: Lean was notorious for a dislike of this camera technique leading to his using them exceptionally sparingly.
Very subtle, but it's almost like Vader is mocking Motti's inability to recognize the value of having a belief system. "Sad religion," he says, which is a lack of any faith. And thus stems Motti's obsession with technological and tangible strength, which Vader quickly nullifies by demonstrating that there very much is a greater power than technology.
@@tysargent9647 yes, it’s the first time the Emperor is mentioned, obviously audiences wouldn’t have a clue of how much more dangerous and evil he was until The Empire Strikes Back where he appeared in the hologram.
Actors here actually make a believable impression of people that are part of a large military bureaucracy. Meanwhile everyone in the First Order acts as if they were in permanent caffeine withdrawal
I love Vader’s body language. His annoyance while this idiot dares mouth him off, his smugness when choking him, and the way he immediately stands down on Tarkin’s order demonstrate his respect for him.
Yes this exactly Even when he says "I find your lack of faith disturbing" You can basically hear Vader smugly smirking I see that as a little bit of Anakin shining through always needing to show off
Although there really is not a care in the world in his tone of voice when he lets him go. “As you wish” sounds kinda like “All right all right, who gives a f**k about him anyway..” 😂😂
That's David Prowse. Empire director Irvin Kirshner stated that no one could walk with the right swagger like Prowse. You really have to swing your shoulders with each step. Also, Prowse believed his voice would be the voice of Vader so he really acted his ass off behind that mask. Lucas never told him his voice would be dubbed over and thought the reason he never called him back to loop his dialogue was that what was captured on set must have been good enough to use. He found out about James Earl Jones at the premier.
EVIL UBUNTU we don’t get to see them directly, but Vader was always crippled and with body mods. That’s why his suit has all sorts of buttons, and it’s why he can breathe and talk at the same time.
@@gagecole3398 I think he means in the history of Star Wars, Darth Vader was just a dude in a costume and his disfigurement and mods came later in the history of the franchises development
Cushing/Tarkin really does steal this scene. He enters the room first with Vader behind. He sits at the head of the table (well, as much as a circular table has a head) in the largest chair, and Vader behind him almost in the background. Vader probably wouldn't have spoken at all if that one officer didn't try to troll him. And then to top it off, Tarkin orders Vader to release the officer, and Vader does. Tarkin really does hold the Imperial officer ranks together in a way we never really see in future Star Wars films.
Cushing was a great actor - old school, but that scene was set in the script. If you can find it somewhere give it a read and you will see how the writer to set it up in the description of the 'scene' . The dialogue is secondary in this instant.
@@TrusteftIt's how the writer wrote the scene in the screenplay not about the writer telling anybody what they should be doing. It's up to the Director and Cinematographer to bring the narrative to life
Vader only spoke four times total in this scene. First one was to assure the admiral that had brought up a probable, and due to what happened the true scenario. The second was a warning to the officer gloating about the Deathstar giving him a chance to stand down. The third was literally him trolling the man while choking him. And then when Tarkin intervened, he let the man go “As you wish”. Tarkin was astonished and terrified by the power he was shown, and Vader knowing the death of an admiral here would be meaningless and wasteful.
The way Vader interacts with the two arguing officers reveals a lot about his style of command. He regards Tagge's concerns as entirely legitimate and addresses them by telling him that the recovery of the stolen plans is being prioritized. He recognizes that Tagge isn't wasting anyone's time by bringing this up, as it is a real, serious concern, and he makes sure that it's made known that this hasn't gone unnoticed up the chain of command. On the other hand, he's quite put off by Motti's flippant attitude towards the stolen plans, acknowledging that the Rebellion is indeed gaining strength and to continue to underestimate them would be very unwise. He offers a stern but not threatening warning against Motti's smug overconfidence in the power of the Death Star, knowing well that there is indeed a far greater power in the universe, and when Motti decides to mock and insult the Force, he takes action to correct him and show him precisely why he's wrong about "the ultimate power in the universe". It shows that an officer who has followed orders and does his job with diligence needn't fear any rebuke from Vader, but he has absolutely no patience for incompetence due to arrogance or short-sightedness.
But all the officers are correct in their concerns and even in the assessment that whatever Vader does is insignificant next to the power of flipping a switch and destroying a planet and Vader force choking the officer for it, only shows the other officers he's got nothing else. That's not leadership, that a classic mistake of authoritarian leaders not allowing any criticism. Vader is an extremely skilled combatant and a very powerful force user, so yes, the disrespect isn't warranted but the point stands. Compared to the Death Star, the force ability of Vader is nothing more than a party trick.
@@PeterJavi So... you imagine that Vader's force-choking of Motti was the full power of the Force, then? Also, Motti was not offering legitimate criticism, he was being an arrogant, overconfident fool who thought the Empire's newest flashy toy was the be-all, end-all of power. That was disproven at Delta Yavin. It was Motti who had nothing else and Darth Vader was reminding him of that fact. "That's not leadership, that a classic mistake of authoritarian leaders not allowing any criticism." I suggest you actually watch the movies again and pay attention. Darth Vader does not simply dismiss criticism or questions, or silence those who offer them up because he can't tolerate backtalk. He allows officers to freely express their opinions on multiple occasions and accords respect toward officers with proven competence, such as the Imperial officer who questioned the wisdom of holding Princess Leia captive, Gen. Tagge, Gen. Veers, Moff Jerjerrod (who felt he could express his opinion to Vader that the Emperor was being unreasonable in his expectations of completing the new Death Star), Adm. Piett. He even allowed Adm. Ozzel several chances until he blew the element of surprise at Hoth.
@@PeterJavi Hope you’re not comparing the Death Star to a force choke, which is nothing to Vader. 😂 Let’s not forget the amount of people required to man the Death Star. Vader is correct, the full power of the Death Star is a joke when compared to the Force as the Force is limitless.
@@PeterJavi Darth Vader is canonically at least planet level, he can hold back the water of an entire planet, ripped open a hole in the universe, is comparable to Darth nihilus who ate planets, and more. Additionally, even though the upper levels of the force are that powerful, if you’re extremely force sensitive you don’t even need to be capable of that sort of thing, as the force can guide you to the result you want. For instance, luke skywalker blew up a Death Star with force assisted flying abilities despite not being anywhere close to the death star in terms of raw power, and darth Vader is aware of this and how powerful the force is, hence his comment that the Death Star is insignificant to the force, which was proven right by Luke.
Yes that comment has obtained a significant amount of likes, therefore I shall re-word it yet maintain its structure in hopes of obtaining a similar outcome of likes for my comment. *What could possibly go wrong XD*
“Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes. Or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels’ hidden fortress.” People focus on the Force choke and Vader’s classic line, but they overlook the fact that this was actually a really sick burn. Not only does this dude call Vader a sorcerer, he plays on that by using the words “conjure” and “clairvoyance” when criticizing his efforts to recover the Death Star plans and locate the Rebels. This burn was so sick that Vader had to supplement his “comeback” with a show of force (no pun intended).
It’s an object lesson in the power of hard work. Olivier thought it terrible on initially casting him in the RSC, and told Cushing to sort it out, which it took him many years to do -his accent leaps all over the place in his initial movies; hence why Sir Laurence only gives Peter a line or two in the classic Shakespearean flicks he first made.
@@TheSALT123 (strap in) From one corner of that little island to the other, there’s a whole kaleidoscope of very distinct “British” accents: West Country, Scouse, Brum, Yorkshire, Geordie, a ranges of Scots tones, Welsh and Ulster too, and more marked subtypes, also _-at the time Olivier was the founder-manager of the Royal Shakespeare Company, that is-_ distinctly indicative of social class. Most actors, if they sought a future in the classical field, dropped their regional or class-indicative accents, through intensive elocution lessons, gravitating towards something that became known as “RP,” or _Received Pronunciation,_ instead: a slightly posh accent with which, when it was still a cultural icon, BBC radio presenters very much became associated. (People who went into professions or got top uni or school scholarships, often went through a similar journey, to make it impossible to accurately judge their precise origins the moment they opened their mouths, if their careers shot them up in the class hierarchy.) It’s only from the late 1960s onwards that, it became the fashion for actors to retain their original accents, if it marked them as having humble Working Class beginnings, that is, in the interests of gritty realism -Sir Michael Caine was the first big standout success among this second type; while the mellifluous tones which Sir Roger Moore acquired (becoming famed slightly later), are a world away from those of the son of a rough-and-ready South London policeman. But even in contemporary times, when Sir Kenneth Branagh decided, at Cambridge, to stick with acting and go to RADA, he weened himself off his original exceptional thick and recognisable Belfast tones, as well... Even back in Olivier’s time, I’d argue, most ordinary people had _two distinct accents_ too: their regional normal one, and a sort of effete rarified one they’d frequently put on, if they talked to authority or someone of a much higher social class than themselves. You can often hear this played for laughs, in television of the time, when a simple family will be having a conversation in one voice, only for the mother to put on quite another hoity-toity one, when called on to answer a ringing telephone. Notwithstanding all this, Cushing’s big problem as an actor starting out, to Sir Laurence’s intense frustration at the RSC, was that his accent and diction _just REFUSED to sit still._ (It was and is quite normal for Shakespeare’s roles to be class-bound. A prince like Hamlet will usually sound like he might be an aristocrat, naturally, while the gravedigger role in that play, of course, is as a rule expected to have the more languid diction of an ordinary rough working man -even if nobody *ever* sounds Danish! Henry V and his confidantes will usually take more affected voices, while his foot-soldiers with lines, in that play, will sound like more “simple folk;” mirroring the officer/enlisted man distinction which still exists a little bit today.) But Peter’s voice-control initially leapt about, and if you’ve a sensitive ear and watch his very early films, you can hear it _changing even mid-sentence,_ switching from having elements of one British region/class type, and variation, to the other. That was the issue he struggled with, and Cushing evidently did an immense amount of work, to end up with the clipped and intensely controlled voice, for which he would later end up rightly famous.
@@TheSALT123 Be who you are, man! You ever heard of somebody called Reginald D. Hunter? Guy from Georgia who despite brushes with the law, back home, became obsessed, as a kid, with a British TV show called _Rumpole of the Bailey,_ ended up moving to England and being a barrister’s clerk, and becoming friends with the aged author, John Mortimer, of the novels upon which that television show was based. He ended up as a pretty awesome stand-up over here. Cushing had a similarly odd trajectory, after doing theatre in Britain and being cast by Olivier he went to Hollywood and was largely a total failure. A delicate soul, it was only the constant pestering of his beloved wife that filled him with the confidence to keep trying, and he found his way back to the screen via UK television, namely, by being cast as Winston Smith in the very first televisation of Orwell’s “1984.” Perhaps the odd changeability of his voice was why he was thought such an apt choice for a dystopian future England whose history had intentionally been confused? At any rate, it’s very hard to come by, given such programmes were not routinely recorded. As for recommendations, I’d say my own favourite of his would be _Dr Terror’s House of Horrors (1965)._ Cushing felt, as an actor, that he excelled at any part with loads of props, which is why he loved doing Sherlock Holmes, and you’re lucky in that his _Hound of the Baskervilles (1959),_ can be found on RUclips as well. Peter thought his very best performance, though, was in a film called _Cash on Demand (1961),_ and luckily you can find it by searching on here too!
Probably because Han and Motti were either kids or not even born when Palpatine had Vader wipe the majority of the Jedi out so they considered The Force a myth.
At this point in the timeline, the Jedi and their legacy are considered little more than either propaganda or a hokey religion, like Han Solo states earlier in the movie.
The legendary James Earl Jones left us today. This was always my favourite quote from Vader. Though his body may have left us he will live eternal in the memory of countless people as the greatest villain of all time. Thank you for everything, Lord Vader!
1:16 "Dont be too proud of this technological terror youve constructed..." Ive never realised just how badass that line is, especially when delivered by a relaxed and unimpressed Vader.
It's like having a 40,000 ton battleship with 18 inch guns in the age of aircraft carriers. Impressive on paper and in person, but far too vulnerable to be useful. Building a second one after the fate of the first was the definition of insanity.
Tarkin’s face while this guy goes on a rant is priceless. He knows what’ll inevitable come next while they other one doubts the existence of the force. And then he hits there and watches him seemingly amused lol.
I didn't notice when I watched it as a kid, but the guy who gets choked looks to be the youngest officer in the room. The other officers are old enough to perhaps have seen a demonstration of the force before and know not to antagonize Vader, or at least when to shut up and listen. Tarkin looks like he is thinking, 'how long should I let Vader choke this guy, I hope he doesn't just break his windpipe...because I am in the middle of another great speech and do not want a dead force choked officer to overshadow my meeting.'
Tarkin being a close advisor to the Emperor knew of the force and at least in a basic manner what Vader could do. It is also likely he knew the Emperor was a sith or at least strongly would suspect it. He knew trash talking the force and force users would be an easy way to have it demonstrated on them by a sith lord.
I never experienced it but my parents did, and they said this was way better than sequels. I never saw prequels in theater though, but my brother did and he said it was good.
I was there... And I realized the banality of evil at that moment. 😒 A collection of semi competent scum trying to find out the weakest one to sacrifice to the boss.
I like how Admiral Yularen is just so chill with him being choked out. Like he saw the power of the Jedi and is legit unfazed with Vader choking the man next to him.
Yep, he's old, he saw the Jedi in their decadent/clueless apex before their fall, he knows and believes in the Force, and is probably pleased that two Force users are on top of the Empire
Absolutely! This feels like a serious discussion involving people who take their job seriously. After watching this scene, I have no doubts that every single officer present in that room earned his way up there by being intelligent and competent at what he does. A smart enemy is a terrifying enemy. Which can't be said about the First Order, who all look like a bunch of retarded, whiny babies that play with toys their parents bought them for Christmas.
The original trilogy gave the audiences quiet scenes like this one, where there is exposition and reflection. The newer ones have constant action all the time, and they never let a scene just play out. Also the British actors, for some reason, add a sense of class.
@@tengkuhafiz4174 Tarkin and Vader had just come from chasing the rebels. Tarkin has just used the battle station which is why they were talking about its powers.
I would say it made the conversation a little more ridiculous. Tarkin says the plans will be back in their hands but per Rogue One copies are very much a thing in this universe so getting one copy back wouldn't mean much.
Rogue One was a terrific film....that and The Last Jedi were my favourites of the 'new batch', although I enjoyed The Force Awakens because it introduced me to Kylo Ren and Solo was great fun. I'd rather forget that they ever made Rise of Skywalker....
@@beeg8615 I'm glad you enjoyed it my friend, at least someone got their money's worth, regarding TLJ I'm convinced history will find it a classic. Strangely, much of the criticism 'fans' gave it was very similar to what they thought of Empire Strikes Back....which is hailed as the best of the entire saga.
@@janesgems7 TLJ is awful for a multitude of reasons. It does not compare whatsoever to the criticisms of Empire at all. Rise of Skywalker is an objectively worse move overall, about as contrived as it is possible to be, but much of that was set up by the utter destruction created by TLJ. At this point they'd be better of retconning the entire sequel trilogy and sticking with the Disney+ shows. And I say this as a fan of The Force Awakens which set up many possible plot arcs that were ignored by TLJ in favour of some universe-ignorant standalone attempt at an indie film SW.
*The respect that Vader has for Tarkin is something to behold. No one other than Palpatine himself could even think about speaking to Vader that way without serious consequences (usually death). Yet even with that respect, Vader doesn't respond to Tarkin with "General" or "Sir". He just acknowledges him with a generic deadpan "As you wish." response, like Tarkin was just making a casual suggestion for appetizers for the table.*
I honestly wouldn't call it respect honestly. I think tolerance or understanding are better words. Vader doesn't really respect anyone except for Palpatine kind of. Even though a lot of stories show that Vader kinda hates palps.
Tarkin and Vader are basically equals in the Emperor's eyes. The same goes for people like Sate Pestage and Mas Amedda. They're all members of Palpatine's inner circle, who are trusted with the authority to commend his wishes to anyone below them. So Tarkin and Vader are, from a logistical and political perspective, brothers, and Tarkin is like the one brother telling the other to stop beating up the neighbor kid because he knows he'll get in trouble.
@@dooterperson Less of a destroy and more of a consume. Nihilus more or less ate lifeforce/the force rather than destroying things. He could destroy nearly anything in his path if he wanted but, for the most part he just consumed any amount of force energy he could get his hands on, until he, yes, indeed started eating the force of entire planets.
aSecondCaesar I think it's mutual respect. Vader isn't really part of the military, he's the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet which I think would outrank or maybe be the same as a Grand Moff, but no other Grand Moff would dare give orders to Vader, besides Tarkin.
Fun fact: Peter Cushing wore slippers on set because the boots didn't fit. "Bitches, I'm the only person on this whole station keeping the self-loathing space wizard in line. I wear what I like."
@Thevictoryoverhimself actually no. His boots needed to be custom made but it took 3 days too long, so he asked if he could be filmed above the waist only.
@@Warsie Also Alec Guinness, who played Obi-Wan. They were both veterans of stage and screen, neither of them thought this Lucas fellow and his Flash Gordon rubbish would amount to anything
Yeah, I wander what Tarkin had on Vader to keep him in his place. It seems to me that if Vader wanted to advance his career and get a promotion he would murder Tarkin the first chance he got.
@@TangomanX2008 Vader and Tarkin worked together during the Clone Wars and respected each other. Also, Tarkin was one of the few people that knew that Vader was Anakin Skywalker and everything that happened at the end of the Republic.
The mockery over those Senate scenes in the Prequels scared JJ off from, uh, acknowledging the status of his world at all or the larger picture (not that he really needs that much incentive anyhow there). Like So Uncivilized said about the Anti-Trilogy, "Any scene where the characters sit around and talk politics might have reminded people of A New Hope... er, I mean, Phantom Menace."
The sequel trilogies need to be nuked out of existence. Disney needs to apologize then hand the reigns over to Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau for them to do the sequel movies right. Clearly they are the only ones that really understand Lucas' vision for Star Wars and have enough respect for the story and the fans to do it the right way.
@@RoyalFusilier Sadly, what people mostly remember from the original trilogy is not the deep world building or politics, but the 'shooty-shooty' 'pewpew' fight scenes. Star wars was always founded on the politics and mythology of it's world. This is something disney has completely forgotten.
Those movies were a fucking letdown. They set up an okay premise, but never did anything with it. Finn never got to have a redemption arc, Rey was good at everything, Poe continued to be a plastic cutout marvel character, Kylo never got to be a good badguy, Luke was nerfed and humiliated. Fuck those movies
O.G empire: sits around a table like civilized gentleman and discuss their issues with grace and civility. The.....First Order: *screaming at each other and tosses their generals around like rag dolls because they have conflicting opinions*
The thing about the Empire is that they're so utterly massive and full of people that if a general or anyone on the Moff Council died or was otherwise given the boot, they could be easily replaced. Also, they were generally kept in line out of fear of getting Vadered. The First Order, despite being the Imperial fragments that fled into unknown regions following the death of Palpatine (TL;DR: A contingency plan that he had created shortly before the battle of Endor because he sensed a powerful Dark Side presence in the Unknown Regions) can't do any such thing because their numbers aren't big enough for such policy. Also, while a good number of generals in the Empire are old and seasoned and now how to act level-headed through experience, the First Order generals are relatively young with little experience in leading an army, let alone discussing their opinions without getting shrieked at.
@@revolverocelot1380 So then how is that realistic? "Once in its history" compared to how many times it was civil? So the Realistic viewpoint would be civil, because that is what occurs a good 90% of the time. Gotcha.
The guy with the sideburns is probably the smartest dude in the room, he thought militarily rather then "this battlestation will just win all the wars"
@@Crafty_Spirit I do admit this is my own interpretation (and head cannon) so take it for what it is worth. This is a scene of exposition and there is a lot we can infer by the visuals and the dialog about the nature of politics in the galaxy we are in. My answer, is that they were not on the DEATH STAR when it was destroyed. First: we see a Star Destroyer approach and then it cuts to the conference room. My opinion, the Star Destroyer was ferrying the local Commanders and Admirals to the DEATH STAR for a meeting to give their assessment of the areas they patrol and of the recent Rebel raid. A clue to this is when the Admiral says to the Commander, “Dangerous to your Starfleet Commander; not to this battle station.” It implies that the Commander has been experiencing heavy resistance in his area of patrol, which is why he worried about the DEATH STAR’s vulnerability. Second: With Tarkin as the Chief of the DEATH STAR and Vader as his X.O., there would not be any need for the numerous high-ranking officers to be present constantly. As Tarkin is privy to information that the Commander is not; hence the Commander's surprise when Tarkin reveals that the Imperial Senate has been abolished and his tone changes.
Tarkin is amazing in this scene. His furrowed brow and stern expression at seeing Vader force choke someone shows it clearly disturbs him, but he keeps his cold composure and with confidence calls off Vader like what just happened is normal
I would change one thing about this perfectly acted scene. I'd delete "Vader, release him". it should go: Tarkin: 'Enough of this!' Vader: 'As you wish'. .... The command to let the man go is implied in Tarkins "enough of this". That would subtly increase the power of Tarkin's respect vis a vis Vader
Bruh, It IS normal around there. The young blood just needed to understand that the higher you rise in the Imperial Military, the more chances you have to both Fuck Around and then Find Out about Lord Vader and the Force. Pretty sure every officer who ever retired has at least one "And then Lord Vader strangled him from across the room." story.
@@WillMartinWrites my thoughts exactly. Any former Imps who survived the war and served in close proximity to Vader have to have swapped more than a few stories. "So there he was mouthing off at Lord Vader and the next thing you knew he was struggling to breath and clutching his throat...."
it's because Vader respected the cool style of people like Palpatine or Tarkin; he hated his own "slave trash Ani" style, and tried to act/talk like a Moff
The amount of heavy lifting this scene does for the worldbuilding is great, mostly on the galactic context for the Empire and the Force. First, we already know that the Empire was preceded by the Republic, but this scene establishes that it was something of a transition or regime change, not a full-blown revolution; and furthermore that it's and ongoing transition, parts of the old government are disassembled mid-movie. We're coming in on the tail-end of an authoritarian take over, as there is no more representation for various planets, only the governors to rule over them. We've been told that the Empire is evil by the opening crawl, but the military leaders discussing how to control their nation with fear of total annihilation does a lot to make that label stick. Second, so far we've only heard Obi-wan's brief overview of the Force and what the Jedi Knights were. There, Luke has never heard of the Force, but he seems to have distantly heard of the Jedi, so it's not something new but something obscure, something from the era of the Republic, according to Obi-wan, but we don't actually know what a Jedi really IS. Ben says they have "powers" granted by some kind of galaxy-wide spiritual field, and they fought with laser swords in an era of laser guns. Then we see Vader mention the power of the Force, and they other admirals and Moffs don't question it, so they know what it is. But one of them dismisses it, ridiculing him as some out-of-touch mystic, before Vader puts his hand up and REMOTELY CHOKES HIM. Okay, we get it, the Force and the associated powers are real! (If perhaps very rare, which squares nicely with Obi-wan explaining how Vader destroyed most other Jedi.) The screenplay in A New Hope is so good!
I think it would be interesting if we found someone who doesn’t know anything about Star Wars and show him this scene only. If this is all you know about Star Wars, you’d learn quite a bit about how the empire works and what the force is.
The writing was brilliant. The constant references to things we know nothing about (Tosche station, The Spice mines of kessel, The Clone Wars, etc) did do much to flesh out the believability of that universe. Then they had to go and spoil it all in later films by explaining all those things. They only caught lightning in a bottle once, in 1977.
It's interesting, too, how Vader's power is shown to be in transition. The commander of the Death Star is not Vader and in this scene he is shown taking orders. In Empire, nobody in a gray uniform was telling him what to do.
Okay but after watching The Clone Wars "I find your lack of faith disturbing" is actually such a in character line for the person who use to be Anakin Skywalker.
"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth." - Anakin Skywalker
Yeah that was always the problem I had with Anakin. I could never see him saying any of the stuff that Vader says. Poor prequel writing and casting by Lucas.
@@TheSundayShooterhey boomer, that’s literally the point! The empire is largely homogenous humans at this time and the rebellion is quite literally based on diversity and acceptance of all. You can see that play out in the ORIGINAL trilogy. I can certainly understand being critical of the new films, which have serious flaws of all kinds, but this is not a legitimate one.
@@TheSundayShooter The First Order is also composed entirely of white men. Almost like that's a point being made about who in the real world typically does the job of oppressing others.
Yeagh, I never really considered how good that ''play chocking'' was on his part, it's so good you just assume it was special effects, maybe some of it was, but I bet most of it, was just his natural acting skill, that's crazy,
Wait.......... You mean he wasn't being choked LOL Truth be told when i watched this the first time , as he was being choked, i also felt a shortness of breath and when lord vader released him , i also took a breath LOL
I like how vader respects Tarkin. He could of easily killed the dude and tarkin really probably wouldn't of cared either way but the mutual respect between these dudes is outstanding
Tarkin definitely outranked Vader in matters relating to the Death Star. Killing one of his senior officers wouldn't bode well with Tarkin, or the program they've created. Vader's the emperor's representative, but not in charge of the Death Star.
@@carterjones8126 I mean, as long as Tarkin is in the room, he obviously has a hold on Vader. Not a leash but remember. Vader said "As you wish" not "as you command". He didn't say yes, sir or my lord. Simply waved it off because Tarkin is the only person in the room with balls
Visionary He's easily the best baddie in all of the Star Wars films (yes - better than Darth Vader) Pompous, cynical, bureaucratic and somehow all too "real" - there are people like him governing the world at the moment. Can you imagine? GORDON RAMSAY: "You call that a fucking meal?? That's a dog's fucking dinner!! Get out of my kitchen you prick!" GOVERNOR TARKIN: "Enough! This bickering is pointless!" Gordon Ramsay obeys and sits quietly down ...
+Mai Nem I agree, rather than being "the evil one" or some laughing megalomaniac, he was simply a realistic depiction of power combined with complete ruthlessness.
+Visionary You can see here what a true professional he was. Actors/actresses who worked with him always attested at how excellent, prepared, generous,and skilled he was. Christopher Lee once said of his old friend from the Hammer Studios days that Cushing knew his lines, he knew everybody else's lines, he could handle twenty different props in one scene and still keep his concentration. They don't make them like that anymore
I love how you can almost read his thoughts from his body language: "Uh-huh, sorcerer's ways, ancient religion, yep yep, you done? Cool. Now let me show you what I can actually *do*"
Young Anakin: _"I don't like sand. It's rough. And irritating. And it gets everywhere."_ Old Anakin: _"I find your lack of faith disturbing."_ Yeah, he got better.
Older is usually better as we have seen with most modern films that act with enough arrogance to think they're somehow superior to their predecessors to the point they disrespect them
Are you _kidding me?_ With all those new trans kids running around dancing and protesting, and Kamala Harris and Whoopi Goldberg yakking away, Disney's version would be a *CIRCUS!*
I also don't think that Disney/Star Wars is all that good either. But at the same time, I think that people overvalue the quality of the dialogue in the original 3 movies (as well as the prequels). That dialogue is full of uncomfortably painful lines. This isn't to say that the concepts that the dialogue was trying to express was bad, only the words used often made the dialogue disjointed or awkward. It's long been held that George Lucas wasn't particularly good at writing dialogue. He could create wonderful plots, just not good dialogue for the characters/actors.
This scene is big deal for a number of reasons. The literature reflects how the one officers disrespectful response was actually representative of how most ordinary citizens of the galaxy viewed the Jedi and the Sith. To the majority of people, there wasn't much of a difference. Both were viewed with suspicion and mistrust, and were mainly regarded as mysterious sorcerers who were known for using their strange powers to bend others to their will.
I also enjoy how everyone else is just sitting there watching and likely thinking. "Well thank the stars that it is not I whom Vader is choking this time."
"Don't be too proud of the technological terror you constructed. With the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of The Force." Talk about foreshadowing. Luke uses The Force that guide him to make the shot.
@@ranger3576 In later movies and books the Sith and Jedi were the ones fighting over the galaxy over and over again. George Lucas didnt think of them like that when he made this movie though.
There’s so much well-hidden exposition in this scene: -we get that there’s a conflict of opinion within the Imperial High Command on the efficacy of the Death Star -there’s the first mentions of the Emperor, the Senate, and the Old Republic, all of which impress the viewer on the scale of this universe -Tarkin has (some) authority over Vader, and clearly has seniority over the rest of the admirals and generals -likewise, Tarkin doesn’t take well to being questioned or subverting the chain of authority (he lets Vader choke Admiral Motti for a few long seconds, then calls further discussion pointless) -the Force and Jedi are viewed as archaic traditions by modern society (hence why Motti felt comfortable/arrogant enough to mock them in front of Vader)
Per The Emperor's orders Tarkin outranks Vader only on The Death Star so that Vader doesn't get any ideas of using The Death Star against The Emperor. As it is stated in The Rule of Two: "One to embody power, the other to crave it." Other than The Force what is the greatest power in the galaxy at that time is
It's funny how little Palpatine is mentioned before his first physical appearance in ROTJ. Sure, he had a hologram, but you really see firsthand how much he had set the Empire up to rule itself so that he could focus on becoming a literal Sith demon. Yet the mere mention of his name demonstrates his immense power.
Darth Vader calmy choking the officer with the Force and displaying his effortless power is somehow terrifying. A few seconds were enough to show the infinite gap between a mere human and a Sith lord. This scene is gold.
@@krisdphillips the Sith’s made it more enjoyable. Just like the Jedi’s made the republic a more formidable foe to the Empire. Without either it wouldn’t have been anything different then current day wars but in a space/futuristic setting
@@krisdphillips dooku is a better leader than Palpatine imo. without Palpatine's malicious oversight he could've led an actual separatist movement apart from him. He also doesn't wholehearted adhere to the sith code as he has trained more than one person. Most likely why Palpatine had him killed
That first officer actually seems like a good leader. He’s not overly arrogant and doesn’t underestimate his enemies.
He’s just as good as Thrawn.
@@Green.Guy.2187 Tagge was one of the few with a brain in that room.
@@stormbreaker415 Yeah he was clearly thinking logic in that meeting, and it's laughable that Tarkin and the others weren't.
Why does this shock people the empire wasnt incompetent.....
@@dionlarman7489 they were full of idiots.
Who ever decided to cast James Earl Jones to voice Darth Vader, and Peter Cushing to act as Tarkin, made the greatest decision in cinematic history.
Gar96 i CANT EVER imagine on earth Vader voice being any different.
german voice is by far the best one.
Christopher Lee actually chosen by George Lucas to play Grand Moff Tarkin but he refused then let his best friend Peter Cushing to take the role.
Peter Cushing was also offered the role of Kenobi but he turned it down for Tarkin
@@CaptainJetstream That's amazing! Aw man if only Count Dooku survived the Clone Wars and was a key Player during the Galactic Civil War! That is an awesome fact bro! 👌👍
Notice how Vader's breathing starts to speed up when choking the Imperial officer, signifying his rising anger and rage. God I love those little details lol
@Timbo Doonovan LOL
@Timbo Doonovan it can be both
@danielsedillo80
I never realised that til i just saw your comment. Great detail.
The sound editing in every Star Wars movie is excellent
There's no scene like this in either the prequel or sequel trilogies. Yet people still watch this
RIP James Earl Jones. The galaxy won't be the same without you
He became one with the Force [*]
No one could do Vader like he could.
Fortunately he made a deal with Disney to use his voice ad infinitum.
There is only one Darth Vader…there will only ever *be* one Darth Vader
impossible
He is darth vader
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Darth Vader is so badass he can talk and breathe at the same time.
@S D The thing is his respirator breathing sound should not be happening if he is talking.
@S D No I mean you still hear the breathing sound effect, while he is talking at the same time.
Talk, breath....And Strangle!
@@samtemdo8 It is suppose to happen when he talks because It is directly linked to his body lungs, so he doesn't need air to talk, only when he removed his helmet that his natural voice is used, but his suit allow him to talk and breath at the same time. It is explained in The Rise of Darth Vader.
Omg, I've been wondering if someone noticed it too since I haven't seen any comments on this.
That first guy talking about the Death Star's weaknesses has to be the smartest man in the entire Empire.
In the 2015 vader comic series, Palpatine actually puts him in charge and makes vader his subordinate for a while.
From what I read The First Death Star really blown up from it over heating and not the laser blast hitting it.
He is unusually wise for an organization soon to be dominated by yes men. Obviously an officer who predated the empire.
@@richardg1426 don’t forget Admiral Gender Studies invented a new way to destroy things, too.
Star Wars is dead.
Vader and thrawn were against the Death Star, vader because he thought the force was the ultimate power in the universe not some mechanical monstrosity, thrawn because he saw it as a waste of imperial resources and as tarkin’s vanity project
"Yes lets insult a guy whose clad to the bone in black armor and is seven feet fucking tall that use magic powers. What could possibly go wrong?"
No doubt. And Motti didn't exactly look like a Bruce Lee warrior, so he definitely had a "whoops, I should know my audience better" moment.
Yeah, well he was cocky and arrogant and was probably trying to show off in front of Grand Moff and the rest.
He didn't actually think he had magical powers. And all of these guys out rank him. Vader is just some lacky.
He can't help it, it's those massive Irish balls
he's only second to Tarkin
RIP Peter Cushing (May 26, 1913 - August 11, 1994), aged 81
RIP James Earl Jones (January 17, 1931 - September 9, 2024), aged 93
RIP David Prowse (July 1, 1935 - November 28, 2020), aged 85
You will be remembered as legends
Yes indeed.
1913
1931
Hmmm
Governor Tarkin was the only one just about as evil as Vader. The Emperor was worse than both.
@@lucianene7741 True
LPJack02, RIP David Prowse too, the man in the Darth Vader costume. 1935-2021.
I love that Tarkin is the only person in the entire Imperial military who can tell Vader "chill, homeboy"
He is the boss
He is an untouchable...He doesn't rule over Vader but Vader knows how to act around him. Emperor needs Tarkin.
@@dresheraton9276 As the equivalent of a fleet admiral and a governor, Tarkin has superiority over Vader. He's the one with the uniform, whilst Vader's just the Emperor's henchman. In Empire, Vader's given personal control over a fleet of Star Destroyers because the Emperor wants him to capture Luke. In that he only has to deal with lower down admirals and generals who he can push around and execute if they upset him.
Word. I recommend the Vader Session, "can I tell you something about being a Daddy...?"
Aside from Palpatine of course
Dude had some stones to challenge Vader. I'll give him that.
Like people knew he could do it too. Lol
He may have had balls, but he didn’t have brains.
Bombarded Slots of Incomprehensible Madness and what does having balls but no brains lead to.....death lol
@TheGreaterGood80 x
He was just furious with the commander that had some sense in him and at Darth Vader for saying that the Force is stronger than the Death Star. And that... (Takes a bow) ...concludes the reason why he challenged Darth Vader.
Based on Tarkin’s reaction, I conclude this is not the first time Vader’s ever done this in his presence.
Vader has poor management skills and challenges with controlling his emotions.
I guess... he finds lack of faith disturbing
Tarkin's thoughts lay just beneath his calm persona, the dude is a complete BOSS. His seething rage and hate for anyone not willing take every measure possible makes him a feared commander that even the Emperor admires when it comes to perseverance.
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And tarkin the only person besides the emperor to control Vader…as Vader he still respected Tarkin like anakin did
Glad to see so many people coming to this clip after hearing the news. Definetly an iconic voice.
"don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed" says darth vader, a technological terror
I can only picture Bloons TD when I hear technological terror
@sl0re10 Excellent foreshadowing.
@sl0re10 Han Solo saved him but i guess the force wills it
Well, no, Vader is a force terror. Technologically, he's just a walking hospital bed.
He was right. The force overcame him and the death star.
1:33 I love that Vader just strolls over to him casually. "Well, I guess I gotta fuck this guy up now."
+Saleem Frazer "Dammit, now I gotta choke a bitch."
+TJohanis42 Time for a boardroom demonstration of "don't fuck with the Vader."
yeah, i find vader kinda funny in this scene xD
***** lol.
***** lol.
Hearing them talk around the table is oddly satisfying. Just war talk, British accents, and respect. I can watch this for hours.
Notice the Empire is all English accents and the rebels are American accents? That was done intentionally.
@@Cinemaphile7783 1776 babyyyyy
@@Cinemaphile7783 uh, untrue. Admiral Motti, the one Vader force chokes here, doesn't have a British accent. Neither does the officer with Vader on the Corvette at the beginning.
@@Cinemaphile7783 the empire is based of the usa
My same thoughts. And each sentence is just epicness
I like that cool admiral in white with mustaches. Doesn't move a muscle, when he sees the other guy choking he is still cool, just observes. Of all other guys in the room is most relaxed. Probably a veteran from Clone wars that have seen it all.
Technically, Yularen was a Colonel in the Imperial Security Bureau.
He's a reoccurring character in the 3d clone wars show as republic admiral, by a New Hope he's the head of the Imperial Security Bureau which are basically the secret police
He's learned to always be relaxed and to never show emotion to survive. In a government like that, when you show any sort of emotion, someone will resent you for it so you forces yourself to always look cool and like whatever is going on is something that doesn't bother you because you can easily handle it.
@@stageblood9935 and, funnily enough, his voice actor was also the narrator
@@LOLMAN9538 The intro sequences of each episode do feel like they're in-universe republic propaganda sometimes, I did hear somewhere that they were meant to be reminiscent of old WW2-era US propaganda reels. Makes sense to use Yularen's voice for that given hes basically a personification of the republic's military
The actor that plays the officer is what really sells the scene. The way he actually makes it looks like he's being choked and immediately drops like a puppet with its strings cut after vader speaks is absolutely perfect
he set the standard for what beng choked by an invisible hand looks like and i don't think people realize that
He's over acing.
@@IronheartvsMiles no
@@IronheartvsMiles thanks for telling us you know NOTHING about acting
Yes, he reminds me of the guy who played the Roman centurien in Ben Hur.
can't we just appreciate the acting of that commander who pretended to be choked?
No because it was trash
Looked like his throat was actually being crushed
Plot twist he was actually being force choked.
It's not just that either, it's when Tarkin says "fear of this battle station", his mouth turns into the most _subtle_ smug grin, because it more or less validates everything he just said.
@@fellowdanbarber3323 🤦
The idea that tarkin is wearing slippers is hilarious
For those who don't know Peter Cushing Wore night slippers because formal shoes hurt his feet. That's why he only has shots of his Upper Body
“Reports are coming in Of-...sir, pardon my impudence, but why are you wearing bunny slippers?”
“I like to feel comfy. Continue.”
I think he has one scene in boots just before Leia is ordered into the main hub for the destruction of Alderaan but that may be a double or something
Legendary actor.
I mean look they probably were standard issue imperial navy slippers.
Lol u really did text this but I hear u
Rest in power James Earl Jones. There will never be a voice like yours. May the Force be with you and thank you for enriching my childhood
Indeed; Mr Jones was as funny and nice a guy in real life as he was threatening and sinister in his screen persona.
I love how Tarkin just lets Vader have his moment for a few seconds before telling him to release the officer.
Deep down, he probably knew Motti (the officer getting choked) had it coming, but knew he still needed him around, so decided to let Vader have his moment before stopping him.
Not even he likes d#ckriders.
Well, the fear of Darth Vader kept the local officers in line.
What makes Tarkin think he can control Vader he’s not a Sith Lord as he is. It’s not like he has a deactivation switch on his risk that will disable his healing system.
Tell that to Admiral Yularen (Left of Motti)
RIP Dave Prowse. James Earl Jones may have given Vader voice, Prowse gave him body
And Sebastian Shaw gave him a face.
@@anawesomeblaze559 And Hayden Christensen gave him femininity.
And Matt Lanter gave his past personality
All true
@@SStupendous Pardon?
It's taken me this long to realise that Vaders line of "the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force" is foreshadowing of Luke using the force to destroy the Death Star
Yep....
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
It could also be a reference to Darth Nihilus who has the ability to use the force to eat entire planets.
And Motti gets choked just as he’s about to fully utter the words: “Hidden Fortress,” the name of the 1958 film by Kurosawa, from which Lucas stole a great many of the scenes and character-relationships which make up this movie (it’s a good flick and worth checking out).
All the sfx aside there’s quite a subtle and clever script underneath, which is how they were able to land such a cinematic titan as Guinness -so favoured by David Lean, who Lucas likewise idolised- because Alec found it such a page-turner. The pan when the two enter until Tarkin sits down is so well done as to be unnoticeable: Lean was notorious for a dislike of this camera technique leading to his using them exceptionally sparingly.
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Thank you, James Earl Jones, for everything you contributed to one of the greatest characters in cinema. Rest easy
*Man is getting force chocked to death*
Tarkin: "This bickering is pointless"
Like a frustrated parent: "Both of you say sorry. ...... No, as if you mean it"
Tarkin: "Lord Vader let him go"
Darth Vader:"as you wish" *I'm about to force snap this bitch"
That's how a real gentleman addresses the situation
Having a heated debate? Walk over to them and strangle them.
Derrick Parham 😂
"Until this battle station is fully operational we are vulnerable," give the Admiral credit he wasn't wrong.
He was also right when he said, “if they got the plans they’ll find a weakness and exploit it.” And... they did
He was right....twice!
General
@@gbonkers666
And due to that foresight, he was promoted to Grand General over Vader.
@@AntasmaTheBatKing Yup General Tagge and Darth Vader were the only ones in that meeting that survived the Deathstar's destruction.
The single greatest line in any Star Wars movie. "I find your lack of faith disturbing". That was surely Darth Vaders most badass line.
Very subtle, but it's almost like Vader is mocking Motti's inability to recognize the value of having a belief system. "Sad religion," he says, which is a lack of any faith. And thus stems Motti's obsession with technological and tangible strength, which Vader quickly nullifies by demonstrating that there very much is a greater power than technology.
Apology accepted Captain Needa, is not a bad one!
He says while choking the life out of him with the force. Lmao agreed. Best line ever! Just to prove his point there is a greater power.
@@JasonFaulkner-u2r Yep, that's a good one as well.
Nope "you are as clumsy as you are stupid" is Vader's best line. And it's the best line to describe you !
The world has sadly lost another legend. Rest in Peace James Earl Jones. Thank you for bringing one of the most iconic villains to life.
Love how much Star Wars lore can be traced back to this single conversation. Tarkin is the first to utter “Old Republic”
Plus, it's possibly the first mention of the Emperor. If a guy like Darth Vader can do that much damage, what can the Emperor accomplish?
Even better. There's a extended version of this scene where Tagge (the smart one) refers Vader as a Sith Lord. In 1977.
And Vaders infamous choking technique.
@@tysargent9647 yes, it’s the first time the Emperor is mentioned, obviously audiences wouldn’t have a clue of how much more dangerous and evil he was until The Empire Strikes Back where he appeared in the hologram.
@@HawaiiKnut that is very significant, given that the word “Sith” was never mentioned in any dialogue in the original trilogy.
Actors here actually make a believable impression of people that are part of a large military bureaucracy. Meanwhile everyone in the First Order acts as if they were in permanent caffeine withdrawal
The 1st order bullcrap was beyond absurd.
Here: professional men making plans
Disney: WE’RE NAZIS AND WE’RE THE BAD GUYS RAAAAAHHHHH AAAAAAHHHHHHH
Thank you Disney
The Disney trilogy was garbage in every aspect.
..they grew up during or actually were in, WWII.
Call it an extreme form of method acting.
To be fair, most people in real life militaries are caffeine addicts
Every single military officer chugs coffee like they need it to live
It’s sad when you realize that these are all the old admirals from the Clone Wars
And one of those empty chairs was meant for Director Krennic
Sad? It should make you proud.
@@Ridley369 sad that they died in the Battle of Yavin
Cool logo brother, although I think you've turned to the dark side.
Wullf Yularen in particular
People don’t always lack faith, but when they do, I find it disturbing.
Me too Lord Vader.
Cool man.
I love Vader’s body language. His annoyance while this idiot dares mouth him off, his smugness when choking him, and the way he immediately stands down on Tarkin’s order demonstrate his respect for him.
Yes this exactly
Even when he says
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
You can basically hear Vader smugly smirking
I see that as a little bit of Anakin shining through always needing to show off
Although there really is not a care in the world in his tone of voice when he lets him go. “As you wish” sounds kinda like “All right all right, who gives a f**k about him anyway..” 😂😂
@@jesuslovesmebut8180 "I find your lack of promptness disturbing..."
That's David Prowse. Empire director Irvin Kirshner stated that no one could walk with the right swagger like Prowse. You really have to swing your shoulders with each step.
Also, Prowse believed his voice would be the voice of Vader so he really acted his ass off behind that mask. Lucas never told him his voice would be dubbed over and thought the reason he never called him back to loop his dialogue was that what was captured on set must have been good enough to use.
He found out about James Earl Jones at the premier.
plus tarken let it go on for a while to demonstrate his respect for vader
"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you have constructed..."
Ironic, coming from the man who has become a literal technological terror
It's life support suit, doesn't do much "terrorizing" on its own, now does it... dumbass.
Meh. It was just a costume here. The disfigurement and bio mods all came later.
@@andrewsheridan612 Doesn't change the Fact that Vader was an Unstoppable Force able to slay countless enemies with ease Dumbass!
EVIL UBUNTU we don’t get to see them directly, but Vader was always crippled and with body mods. That’s why his suit has all sorts of buttons, and it’s why he can breathe and talk at the same time.
@@gagecole3398 I think he means in the history of Star Wars, Darth Vader was just a dude in a costume and his disfigurement and mods came later in the history of the franchises development
Cushing/Tarkin really does steal this scene.
He enters the room first with Vader behind. He sits at the head of the table (well, as much as a circular table has a head) in the largest chair, and Vader behind him almost in the background. Vader probably wouldn't have spoken at all if that one officer didn't try to troll him.
And then to top it off, Tarkin orders Vader to release the officer, and Vader does.
Tarkin really does hold the Imperial officer ranks together in a way we never really see in future Star Wars films.
Cushing was a great actor - old school, but that scene was set in the script. If you can find it somewhere give it a read and you will see how the writer to set it up in the description of the 'scene' . The dialogue is secondary in this instant.
@@KennyTC63 One thing actors and directors "love" is writers telling them how to act a scene.
@@TrusteftIt's how the writer wrote the scene in the screenplay not about the writer telling anybody what they should be doing. It's up to the Director and Cinematographer to bring the narrative to life
Vader only spoke four times total in this scene. First one was to assure the admiral that had brought up a probable, and due to what happened the true scenario. The second was a warning to the officer gloating about the Deathstar giving him a chance to stand down. The third was literally him trolling the man while choking him. And then when Tarkin intervened, he let the man go “As you wish”. Tarkin was astonished and terrified by the power he was shown, and Vader knowing the death of an admiral here would be meaningless and wasteful.
Good description of the scene!
Rest in Peace, James Earl Jones........ We will never lack of faith you giving us.
The way Vader interacts with the two arguing officers reveals a lot about his style of command. He regards Tagge's concerns as entirely legitimate and addresses them by telling him that the recovery of the stolen plans is being prioritized. He recognizes that Tagge isn't wasting anyone's time by bringing this up, as it is a real, serious concern, and he makes sure that it's made known that this hasn't gone unnoticed up the chain of command. On the other hand, he's quite put off by Motti's flippant attitude towards the stolen plans, acknowledging that the Rebellion is indeed gaining strength and to continue to underestimate them would be very unwise. He offers a stern but not threatening warning against Motti's smug overconfidence in the power of the Death Star, knowing well that there is indeed a far greater power in the universe, and when Motti decides to mock and insult the Force, he takes action to correct him and show him precisely why he's wrong about "the ultimate power in the universe". It shows that an officer who has followed orders and does his job with diligence needn't fear any rebuke from Vader, but he has absolutely no patience for incompetence due to arrogance or short-sightedness.
But all the officers are correct in their concerns and even in the assessment that whatever Vader does is insignificant next to the power of flipping a switch and destroying a planet and Vader force choking the officer for it, only shows the other officers he's got nothing else.
That's not leadership, that a classic mistake of authoritarian leaders not allowing any criticism.
Vader is an extremely skilled combatant and a very powerful force user, so yes, the disrespect isn't warranted but the point stands. Compared to the Death Star, the force ability of Vader is nothing more than a party trick.
@@PeterJavi So... you imagine that Vader's force-choking of Motti was the full power of the Force, then?
Also, Motti was not offering legitimate criticism, he was being an arrogant, overconfident fool who thought the Empire's newest flashy toy was the be-all, end-all of power. That was disproven at Delta Yavin. It was Motti who had nothing else and Darth Vader was reminding him of that fact.
"That's not leadership, that a classic mistake of authoritarian leaders not allowing any criticism."
I suggest you actually watch the movies again and pay attention. Darth Vader does not simply dismiss criticism or questions, or silence those who offer them up because he can't tolerate backtalk. He allows officers to freely express their opinions on multiple occasions and accords respect toward officers with proven competence, such as the Imperial officer who questioned the wisdom of holding Princess Leia captive, Gen. Tagge, Gen. Veers, Moff Jerjerrod (who felt he could express his opinion to Vader that the Emperor was being unreasonable in his expectations of completing the new Death Star), Adm. Piett. He even allowed Adm. Ozzel several chances until he blew the element of surprise at Hoth.
@@PeterJavi Hope you’re not comparing the Death Star to a force choke, which is nothing to Vader. 😂
Let’s not forget the amount of people required to man the Death Star.
Vader is correct, the full power of the Death Star is a joke when compared to the Force as the Force is limitless.
@@PeterJavi Darth Vader is canonically at least planet level, he can hold back the water of an entire planet, ripped open a hole in the universe, is comparable to Darth nihilus who ate planets, and more. Additionally, even though the upper levels of the force are that powerful, if you’re extremely force sensitive you don’t even need to be capable of that sort of thing, as the force can guide you to the result you want. For instance, luke skywalker blew up a Death Star with force assisted flying abilities despite not being anywhere close to the death star in terms of raw power, and darth Vader is aware of this and how powerful the force is, hence his comment that the Death Star is insignificant to the force, which was proven right by Luke.
SHORT!?
Yes let's mock the giant who uses magic, what could possibly go wrong XD
Niklas Nordbäck He gets locked into a dark hallway...
Hilarious scene xD
Yes that comment has obtained a significant amount of likes, therefore I shall re-word it yet maintain its structure in hopes of obtaining a similar outcome of likes for my comment. *What could possibly go wrong XD*
Lol
This movie should've been renamed Star Wars Episode IV: The Magic Giant
“Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes. Or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels’ hidden fortress.”
People focus on the Force choke and Vader’s classic line, but they overlook the fact that this was actually a really sick burn. Not only does this dude call Vader a sorcerer, he plays on that by using the words “conjure” and “clairvoyance” when criticizing his efforts to recover the Death Star plans and locate the Rebels. This burn was so sick that Vader had to supplement his “comeback” with a show of force (no pun intended).
Not only mocking his religion, but mocking his very real power over the Galaxy.
I have to wonder if the ”hidden fortress” part is a nod from Lucas?
@@R_got_a_name_change actually it's a reference to an Akira Kurosawa film with the same name
The pun is always intended.
@@Tachikawa_2006 Yes... hence a nod from Lucas.
James Earl Jones the legendary voice of Darth Vader is sadly no longer with us.
Rest easy sir May The Force Be With You.
Peter Cushing just lights this scene up with his presence. Perfect diction.
It’s an object lesson in the power of hard work. Olivier thought it terrible on initially casting him in the RSC, and told Cushing to sort it out, which it took him many years to do -his accent leaps all over the place in his initial movies; hence why Sir Laurence only gives Peter a line or two in the classic Shakespearean flicks he first made.
@@michaeljames4904 brilliant piece of info. Thanks Michael👍
@@alanknotts1844 no problem, he was a splendid fellow
@@TheSALT123 (strap in) From one corner of that little island to the other, there’s a whole kaleidoscope of very distinct “British” accents: West Country, Scouse, Brum, Yorkshire, Geordie, a ranges of Scots tones, Welsh and Ulster too, and more marked subtypes, also _-at the time Olivier was the founder-manager of the Royal Shakespeare Company, that is-_ distinctly indicative of social class.
Most actors, if they sought a future in the classical field, dropped their regional or class-indicative accents, through intensive elocution lessons, gravitating towards something that became known as “RP,” or _Received Pronunciation,_ instead: a slightly posh accent with which, when it was still a cultural icon, BBC radio presenters very much became associated. (People who went into professions or got top uni or school scholarships, often went through a similar journey, to make it impossible to accurately judge their precise origins the moment they opened their mouths, if their careers shot them up in the class hierarchy.)
It’s only from the late 1960s onwards that, it became the fashion for actors to retain their original accents, if it marked them as having humble Working Class beginnings, that is, in the interests of gritty realism -Sir Michael Caine was the first big standout success among this second type; while the mellifluous tones which Sir Roger Moore acquired (becoming famed slightly later), are a world away from those of the son of a rough-and-ready South London policeman. But even in contemporary times, when Sir Kenneth Branagh decided, at Cambridge, to stick with acting and go to RADA, he weened himself off his original exceptional thick and recognisable Belfast tones, as well...
Even back in Olivier’s time, I’d argue, most ordinary people had _two distinct accents_ too: their regional normal one, and a sort of effete rarified one they’d frequently put on, if they talked to authority or someone of a much higher social class than themselves. You can often hear this played for laughs, in television of the time, when a simple family will be having a conversation in one voice, only for the mother to put on quite another hoity-toity one, when called on to answer a ringing telephone.
Notwithstanding all this, Cushing’s big problem as an actor starting out, to Sir Laurence’s intense frustration at the RSC, was that his accent and diction _just REFUSED to sit still._ (It was and is quite normal for Shakespeare’s roles to be class-bound. A prince like Hamlet will usually sound like he might be an aristocrat, naturally, while the gravedigger role in that play, of course, is as a rule expected to have the more languid diction of an ordinary rough working man -even if nobody *ever* sounds Danish! Henry V and his confidantes will usually take more affected voices, while his foot-soldiers with lines, in that play, will sound like more “simple folk;” mirroring the officer/enlisted man distinction which still exists a little bit today.)
But Peter’s voice-control initially leapt about, and if you’ve a sensitive ear and watch his very early films, you can hear it _changing even mid-sentence,_ switching from having elements of one British region/class type, and variation, to the other. That was the issue he struggled with, and Cushing evidently did an immense amount of work, to end up with the clipped and intensely controlled voice, for which he would later end up rightly famous.
@@TheSALT123 Be who you are, man! You ever heard of somebody called Reginald D. Hunter? Guy from Georgia who despite brushes with the law, back home, became obsessed, as a kid, with a British TV show called _Rumpole of the Bailey,_ ended up moving to England and being a barrister’s clerk, and becoming friends with the aged author, John Mortimer, of the novels upon which that television show was based. He ended up as a pretty awesome stand-up over here.
Cushing had a similarly odd trajectory, after doing theatre in Britain and being cast by Olivier he went to Hollywood and was largely a total failure. A delicate soul, it was only the constant pestering of his beloved wife that filled him with the confidence to keep trying, and he found his way back to the screen via UK television, namely, by being cast as Winston Smith in the very first televisation of Orwell’s “1984.” Perhaps the odd changeability of his voice was why he was thought such an apt choice for a dystopian future England whose history had intentionally been confused? At any rate, it’s very hard to come by, given such programmes were not routinely recorded.
As for recommendations, I’d say my own favourite of his would be _Dr Terror’s House of Horrors (1965)._ Cushing felt, as an actor, that he excelled at any part with loads of props, which is why he loved doing Sherlock Holmes, and you’re lucky in that his _Hound of the Baskervilles (1959),_ can be found on RUclips as well. Peter thought his very best performance, though, was in a film called _Cash on Demand (1961),_ and luckily you can find it by searching on here too!
Why in God's name would you talk shit to Vader... He's lucky Tarkin saved his life.
This! He’s creepy as fuck just walking around... I’m pretty sure this commanding officer is also aware of what he can do as well...
Probably because Han and Motti were either kids or not even born when Palpatine had Vader wipe the majority of the Jedi out so they considered The Force a myth.
@@Rezzylite I don't think so, he questioned Vader's abilities, assuming them to be mere superstition.
The officer didn't know Vader personally or seen him use the force in such a manner hence why he talked shit to him
At this point in the timeline, the Jedi and their legacy are considered little more than either propaganda or a hokey religion, like Han Solo states earlier in the movie.
'Honey, you got to be more assertive in the workplace!'
'Yes dear.'
[Hard cut to this scene]
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why are you no writing for family guy.
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Go to cinama sins
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The legendary James Earl Jones left us today. This was always my favourite quote from Vader. Though his body may have left us he will live eternal in the memory of countless people as the greatest villain of all time. Thank you for everything, Lord Vader!
1:16
"Dont be too proud of this technological terror youve constructed..."
Ive never realised just how badass that line is, especially when delivered by a relaxed and unimpressed Vader.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force
also as a deeper meaning/irony considering who is saying the line
It's like having a 40,000 ton battleship with 18 inch guns in the age of aircraft carriers. Impressive on paper and in person, but far too vulnerable to be useful. Building a second one after the fate of the first was the definition of insanity.
That technological Terror he was referring to is Facebook
Science versus faith
Every aspiring villain must learn how to roll their "R"s.
....one swift strrrrroke....
Rrrebel fortrrrress by the time this battle station is operrrational.
This bickerrrrring is pointless!
I can never be a villain then
We wheel crrrush the Rrrebellion
Tarkin’s face while this guy goes on a rant is priceless. He knows what’ll inevitable come next while they other one doubts the existence of the force. And then he hits there and watches him seemingly amused lol.
And he still told Vader "You get your point. Calm down."
I didn't notice when I watched it as a kid, but the guy who gets choked looks to be the youngest officer in the room. The other officers are old enough to perhaps have seen a demonstration of the force before and know not to antagonize Vader, or at least when to shut up and listen.
Tarkin looks like he is thinking, 'how long should I let Vader choke this guy, I hope he doesn't just break his windpipe...because I am in the middle of another great speech and do not want a dead force choked officer to overshadow my meeting.'
Tarkin being a close advisor to the Emperor knew of the force and at least in a basic manner what Vader could do. It is also likely he knew the Emperor was a sith or at least strongly would suspect it. He knew trash talking the force and force users would be an easy way to have it demonstrated on them by a sith lord.
Well there was that one old guy in the white suit named Yularen, that served under Skywalker during the clone wars.
@@Whatatwist2009 tarkin also has a clone wars arc where he works with anakin Skywalker, who happens to be one of the few Jedis that tarkin respects.
Darn it. Thank you James for bringing my favorite cinematic character to life. No computer/AI will ever compete with such an iconic voice.
Unless you were there in 1977 you have no clue just how absolutely incredible seeing this movie back then was for the first time!
I never experienced it but my parents did, and they said this was way better than sequels. I never saw prequels in theater though, but my brother did and he said it was good.
The original, pre Lucas adding kiddie theatrics was awesome!
I was there.
I was there... And I realized the banality of evil at that moment. 😒 A collection of semi competent scum trying to find out the weakest one to sacrifice to the boss.
Yes, my brother and I went because we knew how good American Graffiti was, and the preview and poster were very cool. We walked out just blown away.
I like how Admiral Yularen is just so chill with him being choked out. Like he saw the power of the Jedi and is legit unfazed with Vader choking the man next to him.
@OneLuckyWriter true
Yep, he's old, he saw the Jedi in their decadent/clueless apex before their fall, he knows and believes in the Force, and is probably pleased that two Force users are on top of the Empire
I wonder if he ever discovered Vader is Skywalker.
Wait wherw is yularan
@@filthykevin860 The guy in white
I love the acting in the old Star Wars movies. It just seemed more sophisticated.
Probably because the vast majority of them were British stage actors.
chopperbubba because 4,5,and 6 are some of the best movies ever. Especially 5, hard to top that
Absolutely! This feels like a serious discussion involving people who take their job seriously. After watching this scene, I have no doubts that every single officer present in that room earned his way up there by being intelligent and competent at what he does. A smart enemy is a terrifying enemy. Which can't be said about the First Order, who all look like a bunch of retarded, whiny babies that play with toys their parents bought them for Christmas.
You don't see acting like this in big productions anymore. Its a shame really.
The original trilogy gave the audiences quiet scenes like this one, where there is exposition and reflection. The newer ones have constant action all the time, and they never let a scene just play out. Also the British actors, for some reason, add a sense of class.
R.I.P James Earl Jones, the iconic voice of Darth Vader
That moment when you realize this was the first time the force was used onscreen
Felix Farside not from what I could see
+Felix Farside No, no, no. Vader choked captain Antilles with his mechanical hand.
+Felix Farside It's a moot point either way because Obi Wan Kenobi used the force to trick the storm troopers back in Mos Eisley
FoolYourself wasn't this first onscreen though?
Felix Farside You side pic in link, blindman?
I love how Rogue One made this meeting scene even more meaningful
Mind telling me why again
@@tengkuhafiz4174 Tarkin and Vader had just come from chasing the rebels. Tarkin has just used the battle station which is why they were talking about its powers.
I would say it made the conversation a little more ridiculous. Tarkin says the plans will be back in their hands but per Rogue One copies are very much a thing in this universe so getting one copy back wouldn't mean much.
@@tengkuhafiz4174 the empty seat on 0:35 was for director Krennic
@@華都 I was just wondering that
I still love how perfect Rogue One fits into this one scene,as that empty seat is supposed to belong to Director Krennic!
Rogue One was a terrific film....that and The Last Jedi were my favourites of the 'new batch', although I enjoyed The Force Awakens because it introduced me to Kylo Ren and Solo was great fun.
I'd rather forget that they ever made Rise of Skywalker....
@@janesgems7 I found rise of skywalker to be an enjoyable film but not nearly as good as the last jedi
@@beeg8615 I'm glad you enjoyed it my friend, at least someone got their money's worth, regarding TLJ I'm convinced history will find it a classic. Strangely, much of the criticism 'fans' gave it was very similar to what they thought of Empire Strikes Back....which is hailed as the best of the entire saga.
@@janesgems7 I predict by 2026 it will be looked back upon fondly
@@janesgems7 TLJ is awful for a multitude of reasons. It does not compare whatsoever to the criticisms of Empire at all. Rise of Skywalker is an objectively worse move overall, about as contrived as it is possible to be, but much of that was set up by the utter destruction created by TLJ. At this point they'd be better of retconning the entire sequel trilogy and sticking with the Disney+ shows. And I say this as a fan of The Force Awakens which set up many possible plot arcs that were ignored by TLJ in favour of some universe-ignorant standalone attempt at an indie film SW.
RIP James Earl Jones. You made me believe in the Power of the Force. The Force will be with you.....always.
*The respect that Vader has for Tarkin is something to behold. No one other than Palpatine himself could even think about speaking to Vader that way without serious consequences (usually death). Yet even with that respect, Vader doesn't respond to Tarkin with "General" or "Sir". He just acknowledges him with a generic deadpan "As you wish." response, like Tarkin was just making a casual suggestion for appetizers for the table.*
I honestly wouldn't call it respect honestly. I think tolerance or understanding are better words.
Vader doesn't really respect anyone except for Palpatine kind of. Even though a lot of stories show that Vader kinda hates palps.
@@theautomator8372 He has a great deal of respect for Tarkin, and I encourage you to read some of the amazing lore about the relationship.
It's probably because he had respect for Tarkin before turning into Vader, also Tarkin always treated Vader with the utmost respect.
Tarkin and Vader are basically equals in the Emperor's eyes. The same goes for people like Sate Pestage and Mas Amedda. They're all members of Palpatine's inner circle, who are trusted with the authority to commend his wishes to anyone below them. So Tarkin and Vader are, from a logistical and political perspective, brothers, and Tarkin is like the one brother telling the other to stop beating up the neighbor kid because he knows he'll get in trouble.
Well Palpatine did tell Vader he can't kill Tarkin as he is needed for his plans.
Tarkin: Fear will keep them in line
Vader: *uses fear to keep admiral in line*
Tarkin: Stop that
well.....i dont think his intent was keeping him in line
Dead people can't feel fear
To be fair, Tarkin claimed fear would keep the local systems in line. He didn’t mean it to say Vader could choke a sucker, just cause he was insulted.
tbf the point had been made, he didn't need to take it any further. the point being "mouth off again and i wont tell him to stop"
he let him choke the guy for a pretty long time yk
"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force"
Darth Nihilus: _allow me to introduce myself_
Nihilus: *proceeds to destroy planet with the power of the force*
That’s the point he was making.
@@dooterperson Less of a destroy and more of a consume. Nihilus more or less ate lifeforce/the force rather than destroying things. He could destroy nearly anything in his path if he wanted but, for the most part he just consumed any amount of force energy he could get his hands on, until he, yes, indeed started eating the force of entire planets.
There are 3 empty seats in this scene. You can see it closely, meaning Grand admiral Thrawn and Director Krennic would of say there.
But he used the force to destroy a planet, therefore vader is right
1:39 Vader chokes the guy before he can say “Hidden Fortress”, which is the name of the Japanese film that inspired George Lucas to make Star Wars
The thing I love most about Tarkin is that he can actually give Vader orders and VADER OBEYS!!!!
Is he in charge or is it a mutual respect?
aSecondCaesar I think both.
aSecondCaesar The Emperor gave Tarkin complete authority of the Death Star, so even Vader is technically on his turf.
aSecondCaesar I think it's mutual respect. Vader isn't really part of the military, he's the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet which I think would outrank or maybe be the same as a Grand Moff, but no other Grand Moff would dare give orders to Vader, besides Tarkin.
Visionary Which is backed up by Leia's comment about Tarkin holding Vader's leash.
Fun fact: Peter Cushing wore slippers on set because the boots didn't fit.
"Bitches, I'm the only person on this whole station keeping the self-loathing space wizard in line. I wear what I like."
But?? It wasn’t tho? Lmao it *definitely* wasn’t forgotten in a month
@@nintendo3030 I think that's more what he thought Cushing would think Star Wars was before the release
@Thevictoryoverhimself actually no. His boots needed to be custom made but it took 3 days too long, so he asked if he could be filmed above the waist only.
@@Warsie Also Alec Guinness, who played Obi-Wan. They were both veterans of stage and screen, neither of them thought this Lucas fellow and his Flash Gordon rubbish would amount to anything
@@loadeddice4696 Supposedly Guinness grew rather annoyed that this came to be the defining work of his career.
I feel like Tarkin is just there to make sure Vader doesn't kill any of them lmao
Yeah, I wander what Tarkin had on Vader to keep him in his place. It seems to me that if Vader wanted to advance his career and get a promotion he would murder Tarkin the first chance he got.
@@TangomanX2008 The Emperor told him to obey Tarkin
@@TangomanX2008 According to the lore Tarkin is one of the few people Vader respects
@@TangomanX2008 Vader done Tarkin a favour. Tarkin returned a favour that Vader asked. They became bros.
@@TangomanX2008 Vader and Tarkin worked together during the Clone Wars and respected each other. Also, Tarkin was one of the few people that knew that Vader was Anakin Skywalker and everything that happened at the end of the Republic.
RIP to the legend James Earl Jones. May the force ever be with you king.
This scene establishes SO MUCH WORLD BUILDING; one scene like this was all I wanted out of the Disney trilogy.
The mockery over those Senate scenes in the Prequels scared JJ off from, uh, acknowledging the status of his world at all or the larger picture (not that he really needs that much incentive anyhow there). Like So Uncivilized said about the Anti-Trilogy, "Any scene where the characters sit around and talk politics might have reminded people of A New Hope... er, I mean, Phantom Menace."
The sequel trilogies need to be nuked out of existence. Disney needs to apologize then hand the reigns over to Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau for them to do the sequel movies right. Clearly they are the only ones that really understand Lucas' vision for Star Wars and have enough respect for the story and the fans to do it the right way.
@@RoyalFusilier Sadly, what people mostly remember from the original trilogy is not the deep world building or politics, but the 'shooty-shooty' 'pewpew' fight scenes. Star wars was always founded on the politics and mythology of it's world. This is something disney has completely forgotten.
@@InformationIsTheEdgehere here ... The sequels should just be erased and retconned
Those movies were a fucking letdown. They set up an okay premise, but never did anything with it. Finn never got to have a redemption arc, Rey was good at everything, Poe continued to be a plastic cutout marvel character, Kylo never got to be a good badguy, Luke was nerfed and humiliated. Fuck those movies
O.G empire: sits around a table like civilized gentleman and discuss their issues with grace and civility.
The.....First Order: *screaming at each other and tosses their generals around like rag dolls because they have conflicting opinions*
“Grace and civility” whilst Vader force chokes anyone that annoys him.
@@scottishjedi1522 in Vaders defense
Admiral Moti had it coming.
The thing about the Empire is that they're so utterly massive and full of people that if a general or anyone on the Moff Council died or was otherwise given the boot, they could be easily replaced. Also, they were generally kept in line out of fear of getting Vadered. The First Order, despite being the Imperial fragments that fled into unknown regions following the death of Palpatine (TL;DR: A contingency plan that he had created shortly before the battle of Endor because he sensed a powerful Dark Side presence in the Unknown Regions) can't do any such thing because their numbers aren't big enough for such policy. Also, while a good number of generals in the Empire are old and seasoned and now how to act level-headed through experience, the First Order generals are relatively young with little experience in leading an army, let alone discussing their opinions without getting shrieked at.
The First Order is more realistic. The US senate has devolved into a slugfest once in its history.
@@revolverocelot1380 So then how is that realistic? "Once in its history" compared to how many times it was civil? So the Realistic viewpoint would be civil, because that is what occurs a good 90% of the time.
Gotcha.
The guy with the sideburns is probably the smartest dude in the room, he thought militarily rather then "this battlestation will just win all the wars"
His name is Cassio Tagge, and in the Disney canon, he’s actually promoted and put in charge of Vader after the Battle of Yavin for his foresight.
It’s a good thing he was a Grand General
@@severalcakes3267 Of course it didn't last and he promptly gets demoted by Sidious and then Vader Force-chokes him. Unlike here, he doesn't stop.
@@severalcakes3267 How did he survive the destruction of the Death Star??
@@Crafty_Spirit
I do admit this is my own interpretation (and head cannon) so take it for what it is worth. This is a scene of exposition and there is a lot we can infer by the visuals and the dialog about the nature of politics in the galaxy we are in. My answer, is that they were not on the DEATH STAR when it was destroyed.
First: we see a Star Destroyer approach and then it cuts to the conference room. My opinion, the Star Destroyer was ferrying the local Commanders and Admirals to the DEATH STAR for a meeting to give their assessment of the areas they patrol and of the recent Rebel raid. A clue to this is when the Admiral says to the Commander, “Dangerous to your Starfleet Commander; not to this battle station.” It implies that the Commander has been experiencing heavy resistance in his area of patrol, which is why he worried about the DEATH STAR’s vulnerability.
Second: With Tarkin as the Chief of the DEATH STAR and Vader as his X.O., there would not be any need for the numerous high-ranking officers to be present constantly. As Tarkin is privy to information that the Commander is not; hence the Commander's surprise when Tarkin reveals that the Imperial Senate has been abolished and his tone changes.
R.I.P The legendary voice of Darth Vader.. Sir James Earl Jones
Tarkin is amazing in this scene. His furrowed brow and stern expression at seeing Vader force choke someone shows it clearly disturbs him, but he keeps his cold composure and with confidence calls off Vader like what just happened is normal
I would change one thing about this perfectly acted scene. I'd delete "Vader, release him". it should go: Tarkin: 'Enough of this!' Vader: 'As you wish'. .... The command to let the man go is implied in Tarkins "enough of this". That would subtly increase the power of Tarkin's respect vis a vis Vader
Bruh, It IS normal around there. The young blood just needed to understand that the higher you rise in the Imperial Military, the more chances you have to both Fuck Around and then Find Out about Lord Vader and the Force. Pretty sure every officer who ever retired has at least one "And then Lord Vader strangled him from across the room." story.
@@decimated550
I’ve had this specific thought for years, it’s nice to see someone else bring up such a niche little criticism 😂
@@WillMartinWrites my thoughts exactly. Any former Imps who survived the war and served in close proximity to Vader have to have swapped more than a few stories. "So there he was mouthing off at Lord Vader and the next thing you knew he was struggling to breath and clutching his throat...."
it's because Vader respected the cool style of people like Palpatine or Tarkin; he hated his own "slave trash Ani" style, and tried to act/talk like a Moff
The amount of heavy lifting this scene does for the worldbuilding is great, mostly on the galactic context for the Empire and the Force.
First, we already know that the Empire was preceded by the Republic, but this scene establishes that it was something of a transition or regime change, not a full-blown revolution; and furthermore that it's and ongoing transition, parts of the old government are disassembled mid-movie. We're coming in on the tail-end of an authoritarian take over, as there is no more representation for various planets, only the governors to rule over them. We've been told that the Empire is evil by the opening crawl, but the military leaders discussing how to control their nation with fear of total annihilation does a lot to make that label stick.
Second, so far we've only heard Obi-wan's brief overview of the Force and what the Jedi Knights were. There, Luke has never heard of the Force, but he seems to have distantly heard of the Jedi, so it's not something new but something obscure, something from the era of the Republic, according to Obi-wan, but we don't actually know what a Jedi really IS. Ben says they have "powers" granted by some kind of galaxy-wide spiritual field, and they fought with laser swords in an era of laser guns.
Then we see Vader mention the power of the Force, and they other admirals and Moffs don't question it, so they know what it is. But one of them dismisses it, ridiculing him as some out-of-touch mystic, before Vader puts his hand up and REMOTELY CHOKES HIM. Okay, we get it, the Force and the associated powers are real! (If perhaps very rare, which squares nicely with Obi-wan explaining how Vader destroyed most other Jedi.)
The screenplay in A New Hope is so good!
I think it would be interesting if we found someone who doesn’t know anything about Star Wars and show him this scene only.
If this is all you know about Star Wars, you’d learn quite a bit about how the empire works and what the force is.
The writing was brilliant. The constant references to things we know nothing about (Tosche station, The Spice mines of kessel, The Clone Wars, etc) did do much to flesh out the believability of that universe. Then they had to go and spoil it all in later films by explaining all those things. They only caught lightning in a bottle once, in 1977.
It's interesting, too, how Vader's power is shown to be in transition. The commander of the Death Star is not Vader and in this scene he is shown taking orders. In Empire, nobody in a gray uniform was telling him what to do.
Think of this as a cosmic ROMAN Empire
Very good observations. This is why Star Wars' universe is loved. This film started it all and it did such an excellent job.
Okay but after watching The Clone Wars "I find your lack of faith disturbing" is actually such a in character line for the person who use to be Anakin Skywalker.
"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth." - Anakin Skywalker
“We lost something.” - Darth Vader, watching the Death Star explode
Yeah that was always the problem I had with Anakin. I could never see him saying any of the stuff that Vader says. Poor prequel writing and casting by Lucas.
@@vboccanf
Good thing the clone wars series fixed that.
Based
Coming back here to pay tribute to a legend who brought the dark lord of the sith to life. RIP James Earl Jones may the force be with you.
This is an absolutely flawless dialogue scene. It sets up so much about the world and is filled with memorable lines.
Not enough women, minorities, and handsome young men. Also, one of the characters should say "well, that just happened" at some point.
-Disney
Couldn’t agree more.
@@TheSundayShooterhey boomer, that’s literally the point! The empire is largely homogenous humans at this time and the rebellion is quite literally based on diversity and acceptance of all. You can see that play out in the ORIGINAL trilogy.
I can certainly understand being critical of the new films, which have serious flaws of all kinds, but this is not a legitimate one.
@@TheSundayShooter The First Order is also composed entirely of white men. Almost like that's a point being made about who in the real world typically does the job of oppressing others.
@@TheSundayShooterYour contribution has been considered and summarily dismissed.
That's some really good acting. You can really believe he's being choked.
Yeagh, I never really considered how good that ''play chocking'' was on his part, it's so good you just assume it was special effects, maybe some of it was, but I bet
most of it, was just his natural acting skill, that's crazy,
I think it's like a TENs unit they used probably to make the muscle move like that
Wait.......... You mean he wasn't being choked
LOL
Truth be told when i watched this the first time , as he was being choked, i also felt a shortness of breath and when lord vader released him , i also took a breath
LOL
@@martinkuliza Yeah this scene was intense. I was thinking in my head, Just let him go Vader jeez!
@@luiseduardo199 LOL..
I like how vader respects Tarkin. He could of easily killed the dude and tarkin really probably wouldn't of cared either way but the mutual respect between these dudes is outstanding
The fact that he's the only one in the room that could tell Vader to chill is the best part
Tarkin definitely outranked Vader in matters relating to the Death Star. Killing one of his senior officers wouldn't bode well with Tarkin, or the program they've created.
Vader's the emperor's representative, but not in charge of the Death Star.
They met during the clone wars and shared a similar philosophy so they got along quite well
Really ? he was an Admiral.
@@carterjones8126 I mean, as long as Tarkin is in the room, he obviously has a hold on Vader. Not a leash but remember. Vader said "As you wish" not "as you command". He didn't say yes, sir or my lord. Simply waved it off because Tarkin is the only person in the room with balls
I had to come by here & say R.I.P. to James Earl Jones who truly gave us the most famous voice in cinematic history!
When he seen Vader slowly walk towards him, that’s when he should’ve shut up
A hard lesson to learn, but some people need to be "Forcefully" choked to shut them up.
Darth Vader should've picked him up with The Force, THEN choked him.
he shouldn't have started talking in the first place
@@tsti1es damn
I like how his posture as well - he looks like he rolling his eyes and struggling to hold himself together
Peter Cushing was perfect for the role, love his cynical stare.
What do you expect from one of the greatest actors who ever lived?
Visionary
He's easily the best baddie in all of the Star Wars films (yes - better than Darth Vader)
Pompous, cynical, bureaucratic and somehow all too "real" - there are people like him governing the world at the moment.
Can you imagine?
GORDON RAMSAY: "You call that a fucking meal?? That's a dog's fucking dinner!! Get out of my kitchen you prick!"
GOVERNOR TARKIN: "Enough! This bickering is pointless!"
Gordon Ramsay obeys and sits quietly down ...
+Mai Nem I agree, rather than being "the evil one" or some laughing megalomaniac, he was simply a realistic depiction of power combined with complete ruthlessness.
+Visionary You can see here what a true professional he was. Actors/actresses who worked with him always attested at how excellent, prepared, generous,and skilled he was. Christopher Lee once said of his old friend from the Hammer Studios days that Cushing knew his lines, he knew everybody else's lines, he could handle twenty different props in one scene and still keep his concentration. They don't make them like that anymore
He was irreplaceable. A legend of the stage and cinema, as well as an incredibly charming and warm person in real life.
“I find your lack of faith.. disturbing” easily one of my favorite lines from Darth Vader
One of the best lines in the entire franchise.
"yippee!" is my favorite as Vader skips out of Wattos shop to go back home.
Or the "waaagh!" sound he makes before he cuts Lukes hand off during their fight at Bespin, thats a good one too.
@@Grathom15 the best one is "WAT" when han interrupts vader during the trench Run in a new hope.
G 'hoooaagh - oh-hooarghh!'
That Voice!
R.I.P James Earl Jones.
Legend.
Icon.
💔💔
I love how he slowly walks over while Motti is talking like "I'm gonna end this man's whole career."
I love how you can almost read his thoughts from his body language: "Uh-huh, sorcerer's ways, ancient religion, yep yep, you done? Cool. Now let me show you what I can actually *do*"
@@davidbuckley2435 if you’re trying to bold *”do”* you gotta put the asterisk on the outside of the quotation or you’ll end up with *this*”
More like «im gonna end this man»
"Oh boy, here I go choking again!"
Young Anakin: _"I don't like sand. It's rough. And irritating. And it gets everywhere."_
Old Anakin: _"I find your lack of faith disturbing."_
Yeah, he got better.
Or worse depending on how you look at it 🤔
@@jasondeaver2117 There's more in that, than we might realize.
Anakin got better, as George himself got worse. How ironic...
Yeah, it was sad to see it fall apart like that.
@@lonestar6709 nah
Lesson: Chicks are worth it when they're hot
I can't believe how good this is after 45 years
Damn! That is old! It’s practically immortal!
@@Aggression-hc3ypdefinitely looks like an 80s film. Ahead of its time for sure
Older is usually better as we have seen with most modern films that act with enough arrogance to think they're somehow superior to their predecessors to the point they disrespect them
I can’t believe Star Wars is going to be 50 years old soon. It’s a true Staple of human culture.
RIP James Earl Jones. Legend. ❤
Vader: You underestimate my power!
Obi-wan: Don’t try it Anakin! The ability to use the Force is insignificant, next to the power of the high ground!
🤣
What happens if Anakin... get this...had higher ground...
Then only Obi-Wan Kenobi would be able to stop him. Because Obi-Wan is master of the high ground.
@@lancecurry7538 well Palpatine had higher ground and did nothing so I guess is how you use it.
@@majorcoat | Exactly. Obi-Wan knew how to use it. Darth Maul didn't, though. Neither did Palpatine.
Disney could NEVER write anything as good as this scene.
Are you _kidding me?_ With all those new trans kids running around dancing and protesting, and Kamala Harris and Whoopi Goldberg yakking away, Disney's version would be a *CIRCUS!*
I also don't think that Disney/Star Wars is all that good either. But at the same time, I think that people overvalue the quality of the dialogue in the original 3 movies (as well as the prequels). That dialogue is full of uncomfortably painful lines. This isn't to say that the concepts that the dialogue was trying to express was bad, only the words used often made the dialogue disjointed or awkward. It's long been held that George Lucas wasn't particularly good at writing dialogue. He could create wonderful plots, just not good dialogue for the characters/actors.
@@crucisnh thank you lol i was just thinking that the og movies are b movies if they cam out today
Moff would be a black lady with blue hair.
every officer in the room would be an obese female, black, asian or mexican
This scene is big deal for a number of reasons. The literature reflects how the one officers disrespectful response was actually representative of how most ordinary citizens of the galaxy viewed the Jedi and the Sith. To the majority of people, there wasn't much of a difference. Both were viewed with suspicion and mistrust, and were mainly regarded as mysterious sorcerers who were known for using their strange powers to bend others to their will.
Correct.
*waves hand* The Jedi are you friends, the Sith are your enemies.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
Get a life🤣...too much information and way too much time on your hands
@@KMAN8599 get even more of a life.
RIP to a true voice-over legend ❤️
"I find your lack of faith disturbing." What a line 👏
"Enough of this, Vader release him!"
That quote should be used more often. There are a lot of people that have a lack of faith in something that others can find disturbing.
The delivery made it even better I believe
I've got an idea: Shoot that line up to Biden!
Admiral Yularan just chillin watching General Skywalker choke a man
Also he's the only one wearing white
I don’t think he knew Darth Vader was General Skywalker. I think he thought he was killed after Order 66.
@Sam Breall no tarkin was the highest imperial officer answering only the emperor himself
I think he is to shock to see Tarken in his slippers and what one of his comrades become
@@darthsidious8703 Not necessarily true
I love how chill Vader acts as he walks over to Admiral Motti like he's thinking. "Well guess I have to choke a bitch now."
Jeremy Rivers 😂
is Darth Vader gonna have to choke a bitch?!
Haha wayne vader
I also enjoy how everyone else is just sitting there watching and likely thinking. "Well thank the stars that it is not I whom Vader is choking this time."
Rip Lord Vader, may the force always be with you
"Don't be too proud of the technological terror you constructed. With the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of The Force."
Talk about foreshadowing. Luke uses The Force that guide him to make the shot.
Yep. Vader proved everyone including Tarkins wrong in the end.
Luckily for Luke, guided missiles are an unfathomable concept in this universe
I thought it would reference an old sith lord Darth nihilis. The very sith lord who consumes life from planets with the force.
In later Legends books, Palpatine used the force to destroy a planet.
@@ranger3576 In later movies and books the Sith and Jedi were the ones fighting over the galaxy over and over again. George Lucas didnt think of them like that when he made this movie though.
Man I love tarkins accent, it fits perfectly to this role
Damian Howard being from the south of England myself I must agree
There’s so much well-hidden exposition in this scene:
-we get that there’s a conflict of opinion within the Imperial High Command on the efficacy of the Death Star
-there’s the first mentions of the Emperor, the Senate, and the Old Republic, all of which impress the viewer on the scale of this universe
-Tarkin has (some) authority over Vader, and clearly has seniority over the rest of the admirals and generals
-likewise, Tarkin doesn’t take well to being questioned or subverting the chain of authority (he lets Vader choke Admiral Motti for a few long seconds, then calls further discussion pointless)
-the Force and Jedi are viewed as archaic traditions by modern society (hence why Motti felt comfortable/arrogant enough to mock them in front of Vader)
Per The Emperor's orders Tarkin outranks Vader only on The Death Star so that Vader doesn't get any ideas of using The Death Star against The Emperor.
As it is stated in The Rule of Two: "One to embody power, the other to crave it."
Other than The Force what is the greatest power in the galaxy at that time is
It's funny how little Palpatine is mentioned before his first physical appearance in ROTJ. Sure, he had a hologram, but you really see firsthand how much he had set the Empire up to rule itself so that he could focus on becoming a literal Sith demon. Yet the mere mention of his name demonstrates his immense power.
@@tinobemellow
His *unlimited* power
@@tinobemellowso empire can exist without because obi wan never mentioned him just Vader in his show and new hope
Like how in the beginning, you can see an empty chair. Most likely belonging to Orson Krennic, who died shortly before this scene.
RIP James Earl Jones, one of greatest villains in cinema history
It’s a Just an actor who Played a Villain character in the Star Wars. Evil Darth Vader, the Sith Lord, the Ancient enemy of the Jedi.
Darth Vader calmy choking the officer with the Force and displaying his effortless power is somehow terrifying.
A few seconds were enough to show the infinite gap between a mere human and a Sith lord. This scene is gold.
Force users are frightening. Imagine having ridiculous telekinetic powers that be used on you if they hate you. Yeah, fuck that.
That is to say calmly.
@@chrisnichols9014 it’s not telekenetic bozo, he can conjure storms, lightning some can even bring themselves back from the dead
@@warrioremperor6320 It very much is largely telekinetic power.
I like the way his throat moves
This is why I love the Empire, professionalism while also adding a pinch of evil
The Empire wouldn't have been so bad if the Sith weren't running it. It would have been basically what the Republic was.
@@krisdphillips the Sith’s made it more enjoyable. Just like the Jedi’s made the republic a more formidable foe to the Empire. Without either it wouldn’t have been anything different then current day wars but in a space/futuristic setting
@shut up facts
@@krisdphillips dooku is a better leader than Palpatine imo. without Palpatine's malicious oversight he could've led an actual separatist movement apart from him. He also doesn't wholehearted adhere to the sith code as he has trained more than one person. Most likely why Palpatine had him killed
They were a worthy opponent for the good guys. The First Order is a bunch of angsty teens cosplaying as the Empire
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways Lord Vader."
*Frightens him with sorcerer's ways*
Well he didnt try, he did
Quite the breath-taking demonstration, you could say.
No, try not, do or do not, there is no try.
I think he says ”sorcerous”. Meaning sorcerer-like, magical.
Against Voldemort?
The Force is with you, James Earl Jones. Always.