Count Dooku talks to Obi-Wan Kenobi - Star Wars Episode II Attack of The Clones - HD1080p
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![[NEW Footage] Dooku VS Yoda was almost 10X CRAZIER](/img/1.gif)
I wonder how stupid and guilty obi wan must had felt after turing out that everything dooku told him was true
Dooku was with him the whole time, so obi wan may have thought worse of him
What? Obi Wan told the council what Dooku told him. They couldn't find out who the Sith was.
Francesco Brosolo What happened with Yoda?
Abdirahman Osman he become a trans woman and now his name is Maz Kanata.
Funniest shit I've seen all day, thanks for that
“No, that is not possible. The Jedi would be aware of it.” This line is evidence of how blind the jedi were in their arrogance.
The Jedi were blind because of Sidious. Not because of arrogance. In Episode 1, they found the first Sith Lord in 1000 years. Obi Wan tells Windu and they start watching the Senate. They grow suspicious of him granting Anakin certain favors but have to tread lightly because he is now the Chancellor with emergency powers . In Ep 3, Anakin tells Windu, he immediately brings 3 other Jedi Masters to arrest him
@@dondahighhh12 The Jedi were arrogant, complacent & corrupt even without Sidious. He just brought it further to light, so to speak.
That's because Darth Sidious was WORKING with the Jedi as well. Palpatine's manipulations were charming enough to let his enemies trust and assist him. The Jedi wouldn't, at first, stand up to the leader of the Republic and the galaxy.
In a way the Jedi are like parents who view themselves as the best parents in the world and are devoid of mistakes and failing to see what's right in front of them.
For Example;
"What I told you your daughters boyfriend was cheating on her?"
Parents: No that's impossible, WE would be aware of.
Exactly what Mace said when Qui Gon told him about the return of the Sith.
12 year old me:"This guy cut off Anakins hand, he's evil!"
32 year old me:"You know, there is great validity in what he says."
32 year old you seems to no longer care that he cut off Anakin' hand. What's that say about you?
@@EmptyMan000 It says he can see things from more than one view. Dooku could have easily killed Anakin during their if he wanted to.
He was trying to stop the invasion which happen in star wars 3 and obi won said no😭
The best lies and deceit contain a huge amount of truth
@@chaing-kai-shek2862
That doesn’t justify maiming and the fact that you’re trying to by disguising it as “nuance” just says more about you.
Man, not only is Dooku genuinely telling the truth about how much he misses Qui-Gon here, he’s also being completely real with Obi-Wan that he holds him in high regard and wants to join forces, not just because of how powerful they’d be together, but because he believed everything Qui-Gon said about him. So sad how they’d be friends and brothers in arms had Qui-Gon not died.
I’m guessing you came to this scene after tales of the Jedi because I sure did
@@aman3329 definitely haha. I always had a feeling Dooku was being somewhat genuine here but also a bit manipulative, but now I believe he was being completely honest with Obi-Wan that he wanted to join forces and take down Sidious. He dearly missed his apprentice and wanted Obi-Wan to fill that void.
Yaddle: "Dooku you can't, this isn't the way" *dies*
Qui Gon: "Master! You can't do this."
*turns off lightsaber* "Nah you right..."
Not just friends, I’d argue it’d be close to a grandson grandfather relationship.
makes you wonder if Darth Tyrannus / Count Dooku genuinely wanted Obi-Wan to join him in order to kill Darth Sidious/Palpatine. I believe he did. Of course, after that Dooku would have established a personal dictatorship/Empire with him in change as a Sith Lord. However, I think that he genuinely believed (like Anakin) that this is the only way to bring "Order" to a corrupt galactic republic. Actually many authoritarian minded people today think that way.
It's funny how Count Dooku tells the truth here and the Jedi are to arrogant to hear it.
After rewatching the prequel clips, I too also feel that the Jedi were extremely arrogant, which allowed the Sith to creep up from beneath their noses. I think Dooku was actually the smart one. He realized the failure of the Jedi and ditched it.
Quinntus79 But isn't Dooku working for the Emperor? Was he being honest here or just trying to get Obi to cross over?
He was trying to get Obi Wan to cross over, but he did so using the truth.
impassable Well Count Dooku was a Sith Lord. And in accordance to the Rule of Two he eventually has to find an apprentice of his own and take the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith, by overthrowing Palpatine. After a while Obi Wan has to do the same if he joined him.
Yeah and palpy already had dooku but he was still actively trying to get annakin to join him.
R.I.P. Christopher Lee (1922-2015)
BayareaGuy06 R.I.P.
A sad day it was when he had died, a sad day it is now on which it has been announced.
BayareaGuy06 "I wish he were still alive"
+Ryan La Same here so he could have made a live action net flix show of the clone wars with all the cast in this movie
+The Battlefront He's quoting Count Dooku's dialogue in this video, stupid.
+Ryan La I see what you did there.
Dooku literally told Obi Wan straight up about Palpatine being the Sith Lord and he still didn't listen 😂
He did, he told the Jedi council about it, and I'm pretty sure they brushed it off lol
That’s the thing though. He didn’t. He said that the senate was under the control of a Sith Lord. He didn’t say Palpatine was the Sith Lord. That is significant because this shows that he was still loyal to Sidious and his plans, to a certain extent of course.
@@Alleycat20507 I still think Dooku's overall plan was to overthrow Palpatine
@@jumpcutfilms1958 no doubt
@@jumpcutfilms1958 yeah of course because he's old enough to understand that Palpatine is manipulating him but at the same time he's enslaved by the dark side so hes trying to win Kenobi trust but without revealing all the cards on the table. He said the Truth but not all of It (maybe because he fears Palpatine).
You can truly hear the honesty in his voice when he says he wishes 'Qui-Gon Jinn were still alive', it's the little things.
It was likely what turned him to the dark side in grief
@@ArchangelRG09 100%
indeed
I credit that to the wonderful actor that was Christopher Lee.
Especially after seeing Tales of the Jedi
That's a thing I always loved :
Darth Sidious was lying to the whole galaxy and everybody trusted him.
Darth Tyrannus said the truth about everything, and NOBODY took attention to his words.
Its like telling people about corruption in religion and churches. Thier vision is clouded my friend
Just like in real life
@@thatdude3977 Tips Fedora.
Him and Qui-Gon were pretty like minded with how ignorant the jedi council really was
@@thatdude3977 Corruption is found in any institution. Because it's the people who are corrupt.
Obi Wan: Calling people a traitor before it was cool
don't forget Mace Windu
Indeed I did.
+Obi-Wan Kenobi U should have joined me Obi Wan together we could destroy the sith
+Smiling Dooku I wanted to, but I couldn't.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Look what I have become because you didn't believe Dooku!
"I wish he were still alive. I could use his help right now."
After watching Tales Of The Jedi, that line hits harder now.
Makes me get why so many Jedi turn.
@@othelliusmaximus The Republic was just as evil.
The Council were political hypocrites.
And you can take the context of that line that many ways. Dooku could be saying he really did want Qui-Gon by his side to help lead the Separatists but it also shows how by the end Dooku didn’t trust any other Jedi in the order who wasn’t his old apprentice. Now if Qui-Gon did join his former master is still up to debate. I don’t think he did because what separated Qui-Gon and Dooku was their beliefs. Dooku saw the republic as too broken to fix and believed he and he alone could bring the changes needed noble yes but the belief he had all the answers that all would flourish under his command was arrogant. Qui-Gon always believed in balance among all living things for ‘mutual benefit’ and never saw himself above anyone not even ‘pathetic life forms’ or slaves that were ‘too old’ like Anakin.
@@nightwingman666 exactly. Qui Gon really walked on a Grey Jedi like path.
Tales of the Jedi added so much more depth to this scene, and Dooku himself. I love Dooku even more now than I already did.
It also open the way for him to become a force ghost. He deserve it
@@alialpaslan1950 unlikely, he died a sith
Same
@@brandonm5130 "somehow, Dooku returned..."
@@duffman18 Looking for his head, or looking for rest of his body? Both vaporized when half of the ship blew up, but it's not like vaporization stopped Palpatine. More difficult would be finding a worthy replacement for Lee. Obviously Corey Burton does excellent job voicing him, but you also need somebody to look the part as well. I guess they could do more CGI shenanigans like with Luke or refresh/modify voice of James Earl Jones for Vader, but I don't know. What's the point of having a live actor, when you can just make anything artificially.
Most underrated Star Wars villain ever. He had the badass qualities of Maul, the sypathatic aspects of Vader and the swave demeanour of Palpatine.
+SAADEM Barodo I watched it again recently. While we did not get nearly enough of his past or character, the moment when he says to Mace ''I'm sorry old friend'' I actually felt sympathy for him. That was the one time I felt this wasn't a black and white story of good vs evil. I felt the same thing about Vader in the originals. Through Dooku's awesome character, they recaptured that once or twice
+David McGinness amen brother
+David McGinness Well said
Th. Noatak Yes - such a legendary actor - only fitting that he would be a part of the Star Wars franchise.
+David McGinness there's no way count dooku is more under rated than darth maul, general grevious, and nute gunray
Wow Dooku really just told Obi-Wan the truth...about it all
+CellPerfectForm Well he lied a bit, He knew about jango, the geononians didn't seem to bother about him.
+CellPerfectForm Dooku was also manipulated by Sidious. I'm pretty sure he didnt even know Palpatine was Sidious.
Naw, Dooku knew Palpatine and Sidious were the same, Sidious revealed the truth to him early in their work together years prior to the Clone Wars. I do think Dooku fully intended to destroy and replace his master at some point, as is traditional in Sith society.
+crazysam871 Dooku knew well aware of who Palapatine really was. The problem with this movie is that it did an awful job explaining just about every detail related to .... well, anything. It was a jumbled movie with horrible dialogue and little overall direction. It wasn't until all of the Clone Wars expanded universe (comics, tv shows, etc.) that really flushed out all of the details - and within that expanded universe is where you really saw how Dooku fell, sided with Sidious, and their plans to overtake the Senate. The only downfall of Dooku was that he trusted Palpatine enough to conquer the Galaxy together ... but Palpatine fell in love with Anakin and his talent and hate and he planned on Anakin replacing Dooku early on, which of course happened. This is why Dooku was so surprised in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine okay-ed Anakin to kill him outright.
Ted Baroody Yeah, you could just see the look of shock and betrayal on his face in that scene.
Man this scene really hits different after Tales of the Jedi
Absolutely! It gives this scene so many more layers with the added context.
Literally
Yeah definitely.
I was literally going to leave a comment saying the same thing 😂
This is for me, one of the most fascinating things about Star Wars. I don't know if other franchises do the same. But, with Star Wars, they go deeper and add new elements to the events that have already happened, and give them a new twist and a different perspective.
Even while being captured Obi Wan still has the high ground.
And the sass "I hope it doesn't take too long, I've got work to do"....classic
Even being held captive obi-wan has the high ground
A true master
😂😂😂
That’s my secret, I always have the high ground!
But he's not on the ground.
but he used the low ground to defeat both grievous and maul, explain urself
"I wish he were... still alive
I could use his help right now"
That subtle bit of emotion and sadness, he truly meant that and respected his padawan's wisdom
Qui Gon was his greatest student after all
Makes a lot of sense since Qui-Gon was the one that wanted to train Anakin when Obi-Wan told him not to.
I thought he was acting to deceive obi wan.
@@bern1223 That too. However Qui-Gon was one of the several reasons why Dooku left. After he was killed by Maul, the council still tried to cover up the sith and said that qui gon died for a different reason (I forget what).
@@MegaDrainProductions how could they coer it up, didn't Obi Wan witness it with his own eyes ?
I like how the scene is set in a room that has dark and light spots, and at times you notice Dooku stopping under a light and seems to speak more truthfully as if he is speaking from the light side of the force.
Wow, that's deep
Something similar happens in the Revenge of the Sith scene when Anakin is talking to Yoda about his visions: the light in the room casts light and dark stripes over his face, symbolizing that he is conflicted between the Jedi and Sith
Nice
Genius filmmaking
Such a nice detail
I love how Dooku spits nothing but facts every time he sees the Jedi and yet they never even consider that he might not have been lying.
Yeah, Palpatine is the main public enemy here
The idea of Liam Neeson being the apprentice of Christopher Lee is so awesome.
It only makes sense the Neeson would then later train Kenobi and Batman
You forget... Christopher Lee trains Liam Neeson who trains Ewon McGregor who evolves into Alec Guinness who trains Mark Hamill.
We need a series on that... de-age them and make it!
@@toddgakk5783 you do know that Christopher Lee past away, right?
@@OverLorD768 I said to de-age him
When you have Christopher Lee in front of your camera, you know that the acting and the shooting will be exceptionally top notch.
Yeah, I've heard he was a real life Jedi and used the force to do his own camera work. That man was a true artist.
Can Yücelsen absolutely agree 👍
@@williamdavies9339 Do you understand the concept of a joke?
Camera work is very poor here imo. But his acting is great as always.
That's Sir Christopher Lee to you, peasant!
It pains me to think we'll never hear his majestic voice again. Dooku, Saruman... Rest in Peace, legend! You'll be forever missed. 😞
He was a compulsive liar. He pretended to be a super soldier in ww2. But no. Just a liar.
@@Burner-wb6pfYou’re full of shit. He was in the SAS.
@@Burner-wb6pfhe was a soldier during the war don't call him that you idiot
@@Burner-wb6pfIt's highly possible.
@@Burner-wb6pf Just like you, trying to act as someone, when in reality not even your mother remembers you. xD
The idea of Christopher Lee nurturing and mentoring Liam Neeson is nothing short of awesome.
They should had flashback scene either in Episode 1 or 2
Count Dooku deserved more screentime. He could have been such a deep and conflicted character
Considering he was a pragmatic swordsman with some philosophical basis, yes, it's kind of unfortunate he wasn't explored more deeply. So much was just implied and not expanded.
Watch The Clone Wars
Agree 👍
@John6yt yeah
In the grand scheme of things Episode 1 is skippable. Trilogy could start from Attack of the Clones, Phantom Menace is a supplemental material to fill some gaps or throw some backstory for main characters (like meeting Obi-Wan's master, how Anakin's childhood looked like, that Palpatine hails from Naboo), it's for curiosity sake and not mandatory. However that kickass final battle with Darth Maul is a must watch.
Ya know, in this scene Count Dooku doesn't really seem like a villain. He seems like a pretty reasonable dude. Of all the Siths it seems like he would have been the easiest to turn back to the light.
+awesomecdiperson
He was both. He was a very powerful Jedi and incredibly wise. Unfortunately, this made him view the others around him as as unintelligent or lacking insight like he had. Thus, they did not seek to get rid of corruption or the wrongs in the galaxy. In this way, he becomes disillusioned and leaves the Order to try to change things his way. He finds that the Dark Side could offer him the power he needed to fix things. It's like Lord of the Rings where people think they can use the Ring to stop Sauron/the Orcs/be a great ruler/etc. In the end, he becomes corrupted but never loses sight of his goal.
Imo, we see Mace Windu hint at this direction as well. Powerful, strong leader, confident, smart. He channels his dark side into his skill so as not to become a part of it. Perhaps if Anakin did not exist, I imagine Palpatine would try to control him instead.
I mean, damn, the prequels had some great ideas. Just poor execution.
Turn back to the light? Notice how Dooku never had the evil fiery eyes of the other SIth like Dark Anakin, Darth Maul, and Sidious.
He's more like Darth Traya: a grey Jedi playing both sides for his own ends.
@@xLeeroycranex Idk about Palpatine successfully turning Mace, as you see Mace rocks the purple lightsaber, which usually represents the dark jedi's turning sides, I would imagine Mace being very stubborn, he didn't even consider about killing Sidious, it is not the jedi way, mr. team killer skydick said, now mr. skydick was a liability and Mace was against him all along and thats for a good reason, Sidious had everything staged and Mace Windu was always skeptic about him, this was not his way. He was right all along.
Dooku wasn't evil, he eventually planned on killing Sidious
xLeeroycranex exactly
You don’t notice when you’re a kid but the way George Lucas wrote the story and the way the corruption sets in is so smart and well written really. The traitor is amongst the Jedi right before their eyes and they are to arrogant to think anything
palpatine did nothing wrong
@@jonniefast Ayo?
@@madduxnagel6935 Palpatine knows of an outside invading force. And knows the Republic stands no chance as is with the Jedi in power.
@@zedzed5276 So that just justifies everything Palpatine does then, just like that?💀
The Jedi order had become too complacent in their own dogma by this point.
Count dooku really embraced the full force without going too far to the dark side. Very interesting character and one of my favorites.
Reflected by how he steps in and out of the light, compared to Kenobi being haloed.
Brcause life is nevrr so binary
You need to rewatch the atrocities he commits...
His whole shtick is pretending to be a good guy and you're somehow falling for it even though the movies and shows tell you quite clearly how evil he is.
@@IcyPhilosopher The "new" medias completely flipped his character. Dooku wasn't evil. He just didn't agree with the Jedi council and saw the corruption and saw Sidious' plans as a way of fixing the corruption. Alas, he was wrong and was used.
@@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader
Yeah I've seen them. Starting down the dark side often is done with good intentions. By the time we see him in episode 2 and 3 he is completely fallen. All media shows this including Clone Wars. His reason for falling is irrelevant and the idea of trying the darkside for a good reason only to have it corrupt you is not new. He is evil by that point.
Count Dooku is a unique character.
Yea. He sort of comes off as more of a disillusioned Jedi rather than a Sith Lord. If anything, I feel like part of him was still holding onto the Light here in this scene.
Ye really is. He strikes such a strange balance of emotions. I wish he was elaborated on further
@@markrodriguez7566 he was explored a bit more in Clone Wars but even then I think that really deviates from what was shown in the film's. The TV show made him just a one dimensional villain. All the more reason for that Jedi lost audio book that's coming out
brilliant I LOve Dooku and his outfit is The coolest too
Count Dooku is basically Darth Vader if he was an old man.
What a voice Christopher Lee had...powerful enough to melt lead. RIP
He even released a metal album a short time ago (about 3-4 yrs before his death). Amazing stuff :D
Lead has a low melting point.
superbrownbrown don’t be that guy
@@user-up8ri9he3g I didn't invent elemental properties.
@@superbrownbrown well You Are That Guy Now Lol Danm
Just had to come back here after Tales Of The Jedi. Despite knowing why Dooku did the things he did already, it felt like a fresh new wound was opened actually getting to see glimpses of his downfall. He truly didn't want it to come to this.
This just proves that Count Dooku was right all this time and the Jedi Order was too blind and stupid to see it.
Dooku truly wanted to end all the corruption around him. Him pretending to align with Sidious forced him to do bad things he never wanted to do to keep up appearances.
@@dereklopez9060 In theory, but ultimately, even his "better" plan didnt work! Dooku ends up dead, Jedi die too, and Palpatine takes over anyway.
The only thing he got that he wanted was the corruption of the Senate ending (with the fact they no longer exist either)
How different would have things gone if it was Dooku and Qui-Gon VS Maul? It's interesting.
Well you know tales of the jedi aren't Canon to lucas vision right? It's basically fanfiction.
@@dain6492Thats just your opinion as tales of the jedi is in fact canon. I personally can't stand so called 'purists' for any kind of media. There are Star Wars 'purists' who think only the original trilogy is canon and that everything else, even the prequels and the EU with the Yuuzong Vong and Abeloth are not real Star Wars.
Christopher Lee is an amazing actor and the emotion in that line about Qui-Gon transcends even more so to the audience now that Tales of the Jedi is out
Tales nailed it, I love that scene so much more now. And I really loved that scene before ;)
No it doesn't. Nothing feels differebt
Fun fact: Christopher Lee famously lied about his service in WW2
@@Burner-wb6pf That's just a flat out lie from an insignificant piece of dirt on somebodies boot which you are.
@@Burner-wb6pf You really need to find a life dude, attacking someone dead, He did far more things than you, fapping at the morning.
I would absolutely join Dooku
+Henry Freeman i would trust him over a real life world leader in todays world
Him and Obi Wan would be a hell of a team
Aside from him being paired with Anakin, you mean...
So would I
Not simply because he's Christopher Lee (well, that would be a plus actually. We all know that) but because he's right. Dooku is absolutely right.
"I told you everything you needed to know on Geonosis all those years ago, Kenobi."
Furious Sherman what movie is this line from?
Andrew Rusk “Clone Wars: The Lost Missions”. It really expands on the plot of II and blends into III very nicely.
Andrew Rusk it’s not from a movie. It’s from the clone wars tv show
And reveals that he’s tyranaus
Eh, that episode was not that well done.
1:36 is actually fantastic staging and lighting to foreshadow how Dooku was a “good” Sith technically
This is so much better acted than I realize
Also, notice how Dooku is walking around the room freely in a clockwise direction whereas Obi-Wan is pinned in the center rotating counterclockwise. It's like the Jedi were not who they used to be and made several unwise decisions leading to their downfall, so their time is coming to an end. Conversely, the Sith have been waiting patiently for almost 1000 years since Darth Bane to take control over the galaxy, it is only a matter of time.
Hmm, I hadn't thought about it like that. Good call.
Holy... He's literally crying out for help. You can see pain and regret that you really couldn't see before.
Obi-Wan never fully realized what Tyranus was talking about... until it was too late.
"Tyranus? You are the man called Tyranus?"
"I told you everything you needed to know on Geonosis all those years ago, Kenobi. You should have joined me. Sifo-Dyas understood. He saw the future, which was why he helped me."
Eric Graham I remember that episode.
Part of the reason "The Clone Wars" deserves to be a part of the official Star Wars canon, and that it deserves more praise than it really gets now.
He comes off as arrogant and short-sighted here. He didn't even give Count Dooku a debate or a rebuttal. Simply stating "Nope, not siding with you" each time Count Dooku presented his viewpoint doesn't strike me as something you should say to a once great Jedi Master such as Dooku.
HiddenWen Obi-wan knew that Dooku was trying to coax him to the dark side of the Force.
He believed in the Republic, and suddenly being told something so outlandish, regardless of it being the truth, he was not going to let Dooku even twist his mind a little bit. Anakin being a good example of what happens when you let someone get inside your head. It might have been arrogant, but from his point of view at the time, a good choice.
Older Obi-wan, as the Obi-wan later on in the clone wars / ROTS, would have probably discussed it further, but that was a much older and wiser man.
"You must join me Obi Wan, we must join with Sauron"
+Thomas Williams Against the power of Sith, there will be no victory.
The Man Who Stalks You "it would be wise my friend..."
Thomas Williams *Trying to escape*
So you have chosen *death*....
+Johniscool I can't even..
Count Dooku, Ahsoka, Fives, Barris Offee.
I see a pattern here.
What about asajj ventress?!
looking back dooku had a soft spot for obiwan since he was qui gon apprentice
Count Dooku: *Tells the truth*
Obi Wan: Nah, we'll be fine.
Made me think of the Critical Drinker : "Naaaah, it'll be fine ! "
Narrator: And they were, in fact, not fine.
"It's impossible!"
*sam Neill screaming*
Except he told his Jedi masters about what Dooku told him.
Notice how in the second installment of each Star Wars trilogy, the Sith Apprentice is telling the truth that the hero refuses to believe?
Very nice touch isn't it?
Even in TLJ Kylo tells Rey that her parents are nobodies
Except Kylo isn't Sith - but Dark Side users definitely have that trait. Honestly, if I was Obi-Wan I would have joined Dooku. He doesn't seem inherently evil and the Separatist movement was actually a noble plan had it not been orchastrated by Sidious.
Suspicious Windmills no dooku here was playing the role of a noble revolutionary to lure and deceive kenobi into joining the dark side. Dooku I’m sure was going to use kenobi to further the dark side and try to kill Sidious to be the master then take over the republic. Dooku was merely showing his false moniker to kenobi not his true face
@@DarthSathion Perhaps, but I never saw him as a true sith. He doesn't have the sith eyes.
Dooku never really forgave Palpatine
Why would he? Palpatine turned a peaceful man into something he didn’t want to be expected Dooku didn’t have it as bad as Anakin did.
@@Itsnoahscott especially evident when he tries to ally with Obi Wan.
I feel like Dooku truly believes in the cause and the existence of Separatist, in episode 3 of this series he understands the people of the planet which in The Bad Batch and Clone wars we learned that Raxus was once a part of separatist alliance
Which is he was pretending to be on board with Palpatine here. Dooku was only aligning with Palpatine to get rid of him.
I am sure Palpatine was aware
Tales of the Jedi episode 4 made me come back to check this. His words about Qui Gon rings true here.
It troubles me they gave him an Blue lightsaber and not an Green Lightsaber
Not canon, nothing is canon anymore, a meaningless word like "woke"
Why did you come back after Tales of the jedi? Are you that stupid?
@@thebandit0256 Dooku's lightsaber when he became a Jedi Master in Legends is blue. Refer to his involvement in the Battle of Galidraan if you are curious.
However, also in the Star Wars Expanded Universe/Legends, he does have a green lightsaber in the standard style when he was a Padawan and Knight. That is before he created his famous curved-hilt saber. This might as well apply to Canon to an extent.
Dooku deserves to be a force ghost, he was nothing but honest.
He lied 4 times in a row before he told me the truth about the Sith being in control.
Obi-Wan Kenobi you’re right, I wasn’t there, I don’t know the whole situation and I shouldn’t victim blame. I deeply apologize for trying to play devils advocate for a situation that I only see from the outside, I don’t know what’s really happening when the cameras aren’t rolling. Once again I sincerely apologize for my severe and continuous lapse in judgement. It’s not my place and I should stay out of it until I know the both sides of the story.
Deserves? After killing so many people? He deserved jail. He might regret in moment of death but deserving is too big word.
If Vader gets to be a Force ghost it seems only logical.
@@PapapeTrue absolutely 👍
"Oh no my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake, they've gone to far, this is madness!" 🤣
Lmao, Dooku is the king of sarcasm.
So civilized
I did not hit her. It’s not true. It’s b******t. I did not hit her. I did not.
@@Thanhhuy-bj6gt Oh hi Mark
*surprised Pikachu meme*
I kinda fell mad that Dooku is represented as an evil monster in The Clone Wars, while in the movies, he is so polite and certain, aware of the good and bad and that is on the wrong side for a better good
Yeah, Filoni did Dooku dirty. He really botched the Separatists as a whole in my opinion.
Yeah i agree!
The separatist was just a group of people trying to get off Republic's hand
That was very nicely showed in that episode were Ashoka stays with an separatist boy
It's nice having an evil and merciless villan, but I prefer the polite Dooku
Christopher Lee is such a class act, he can even make the corny wooden Star Wars prequel dialogue sound great. RIP
Not to mention that he improvised a few times. Like when he salutes Yoda with his lightsaber, that was purely improvised. And in Episode III, he was supposed to say "Chancellor! Protect me!" when he was at Anakin's mercy, but Lee felt that line was so corny that he decided to just not say the line.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I've heard that Dooku was going to talk about his/Sidious' involvement in the death of Anakin's mother.
Obi Wan: Tyrannus? YOU'RE the man called Tyrannus?
Count Dooku: I told you everything you needed to know on Geonosis. All those years ago, Kenobi. You should've joined me. Sifo-dyas understood. He saw the future. That is why he helped me.
lol that clip is what brought me here
Indiana why
Emperor Palpatine Storm Bringer777's comment was from a clone wars episode, and it referenced this scene
Indiana I know I see the episode but im curious to know what brings you here rather then this is simply something dooku referenced to on the pykes planet?Or is that it?
wait wasnt sifo-dyas sidious?
look at how Lee reacts when Obi Wan tells him "i'll never join you" thats a look of resignation and regret, showing that all of what he said was actually genuine and this was his last chance to try do things from the light side. Upon learning that his last chance has failed you can see he has decided to go full tilt.
Thats exactly how I always saw it too. Its kinda a shame expanded universe stuff tends to just treat count dooku as completely cold-blooded, ruthless, and completely sith, even though it doesnt really match his portrayal here in the movies.
Top tier acting
@@lenkagamine4145 I mean in Revenge of the Sith they kinda made the character that way
@@SGK1206 well, arguably. we dont see a ton of them in revenge of the sith. Its impossible to tell what he might be really thinking behind his carefully composed visage.
Dooku was never trying to do things from the light side. He's already fully a Sith Lord in this scene, and has been for a decade. He's trying to manipulate Obi-Wan. It was the plan all along to reveal Sidious's existence to the Jedi, as well as his influence over the Senate. It was bait to build mistrust between the Jedi and the Senate, which ultimately allows Palpatine to convince the Senate that the Jedi are traitors.
Anyone here after watching the Dooku episodes in Star Wars Tales Of The Jedi?
I am
@@StarwarsFan-3131 me too bro.
Between this, what was in legends and what is now canon in Tales of the Jedi:
"I wish he were... still alive. I could use his help right now"
This quote doesn't read like "I wish Qui-Gon would stand with me." it reads more like "I wish I had never done it, Qui-Gon kept me balanced."
Obi-Wan immediately turning to say "Qui-Gon would never join you." with spite and anger resulted in a pause from Dooku. He wasn't ready for Obi-Wan's cold and unfeeling response. What he said next sounds like a panicked generic statement. And Dooku's facial expression from his prior admission seems genuine.
Dooku was ready to open up and tell Obi-Wan everything, as he then attempted to. But Obi-Wan and the Council were far too distrusting of Dooku to believe it. Dooku was many things, including deceptive. But he didn't flat out lie.
Christopher Lee was a talented Actor.
obi-wan seemed to interpret the word "help" as "help to destroy the republic" or "help to destroy the jedi", but i believe dooku really meant "help figuring out what i should do"
Dooku was corrupted by the dark side at this point
@@rootfish2671 Yeah Dooku had already turned to the dark side 10 years before this scene (as that's when he killed the other Jedi and used that Jedi's name to order the clone army, under orders from Sidious to do so). Though he always did still seem to think that he'd be able to get rid of Sidious if it came to it, and he planned to eventually do that once he'd used up every bit of usefulness that he could have got out of Sidious, but he was always quite arrogant, and so he never believed that Sidious was also planning to do the same to him all along, and to replace him with Anakin.
It’s very interesting development but I wouldn’t be too lenient on Dooku.
He made his choices and he is for the most part responsible. The Jedi’s arrogance only speed the inevitable.
Lastly, he was already committed to achieving his end goals at this point. So I don’t think there was any hope for any redemption despite lamenting the fact that he sacrificed his own morals to do it. (Kinda like Thanos)
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 This. Dooku's actions directly resulted in countless deaths & suffering and he knew this. Even though he saw the corruption of The Jedi & The Senate he could have left The Jedi Order instead of contributing to a massive intergalactic war.
the things I loved about Dooku was his manipulative gentlemen act, his fensing style saber skills and his pretty cool saber design.
a classy gentleman sith
So civilized
Black culture
Count Dooku understood that the only way to destroy the Sith was to join them and wipe them out from within. That's why this scene is so great. He knew enough about the corruption in politics and the foolishness of the Jedi. This is why he wouldn't release Obi Wan.
Not only that but he flat out told him
That's a great, great point...
You see this confirms what I always suspected about Dooku. I always got the vibe that Dooku wasn't a true Sith. He possessed none of the raw hatred or anger of Darth Vader but he possessed none of the sheer sadistic glee of Darth Sidious. He was so calm, composed, in full control of his emotions. And I mean, with respect to the Clone Wars, he seems to put a genuine effort in trying to destroy the Republic, undertaking campaigns that very easily could have destroyed the Republic had they been successful. It really strikes me that Dooku wasn't a Jedi or Sith, he was a renegade who abandoned the corruption of the Jedi Order to deal with the Sith on his own. It's a shame neither the Prequels nor TCW explore Dooku better in this regard.
And one interesting thing to note: Dooku doesn't have the bright orange eyes of a Sith Lord.
al Mamlūk I never considered Dooku a true Sih either. And I believe he too deep down still believes himself a Jedi
Man Christopher Lee can act! RIP Sir Christopher Lee 🙏 Tales of the Jedi just made you feel much more for Dooku right here, where he honestly tells him that Qui Gon always spoke highly of Obi-Wan to Dooku, and how he felt of him missing him. Cmon Obi-Wan.. listen to him!!
Who’s here after watching Tales of the Jedi?
Yeah
Me.
Been here way before that😂
Me too. Qui Gon's death was the push that set Dooku on the path to the dark side.
Dooku is more like in the middle - he knows the Jedi are arrogant scum, but also is aware of the Dark Side problems. That's whe Dooku probably has no Sith eyes - hes just pragmatic.
Kind of reminds me of Jolee from Knights of the Old Republic
@@NRGgamer he isn't grey Jedi, he has control over his anger which is something few sith can do, hence why he can hide his sith eyes, similar to Sidious
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 I don't think so. Unlike other Sith, Dooku joined the Sith only because he was disillusioned and wanted change. Unlike Darth Sidious, he had not immersed himself in the dark side.
@@aswinastro change to what though? i wouldn't trust anyone who literally takes on the name of a sith lord, i'd have no doubt that Darth Tyranus would have something to gain from telling Kenobi this stuff, plus as far as i see he was still Sidious's apprentice to the end so, there's clear dark side notion
also it is a fact that he can control his sith eyes, i recommend watching Stupendous Wave's video on it, pretty interesting
Dooku had sith eyes in The Clone Wars
I would have loved to have seen with Liam Neeson and Christopher Lee together in live action.
Oscar Schindler teaming up with Saruman would be very badass indeed
That would have been beautiful man. Rest in peace Christopher Lee!
As Would I. That Would've Been Awesome.
*sir Christopher lee
Dooku, "I could really use his help right now". Its funny Obi-Wan automatically assumes Dooku would try to turn Qui-Gon to the dark side. The way Dooku said that he probably meant if Qui-Gon were alive he'd help him see the path and turn back to the light
Neither of those is true. Qui gon already disliked the Jedi order/Jedi council along with the senate but he still remained with them out of loyalty. If Dooku had asked him for help, Qui gon would have no reason to refuse since he broadly agreed with Dooku's ideals & objectives (Salvage whatever is possible and let the Jedi order fall).
Years after watching this, it’s crazy to see that just because Dooku turned to the Dark Side, his intentions were still to get rid of Palpatine, and bring order to the republic. He straight up tells Obi-Wan Palpatines plans and gives the entire Jedi a way to end the corruption, but because he’s fallen to the Dark Side, the Jedi dismiss him. Just think of the possibilities if Obi-Wan had just listened.
I'm super lost on the stories as I only watched the movies and read a few books before the Disney acquisition. What tv series or book tells of Dooku's intentions?
That's the problem, the Jedi were too blinded by their own self-righteousness to sense what was happening, until it was too late.
Do you know how many people died, dressed up as nazi Germans in world war 2????.....human nature is what it is.
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 These dude, are not movies, ...they are lessons from God.
Obi-Wan made the right choice. Dooku is evil at this point. Some decent intentions in ridding Sidious but Dooku is POWER HUNGRY right now and first thing he would have done after killing Sidious is try to gain control of the senate and galaxy with the Clone Army AND Droid army. Just think about it.
"Oh no, my friend. This is a mistake; a terrible mistake, they have gone too far! This is madness!"
The sarcasm and sass of Dooku... 😂🤣
Fuckin great
If I thought it was bad manipulation
@G E T R E K T I don't believe you
@@LIMC46 May I ask why a Jedi Knight is all the way out here in Geonosis?
@@ahmetutkuakbulut5374 Why should I talk to a traitor? In any case, here you have a bounty hunter who tried to kill a senator on Coruscant
Growing up is realising Dooku was a strong and honest man with good long-term intentions. 😂
According to the lore he was actually pretty racist lol
@@ArtofLunatik wait how do you say that? Sources please...
@@-Retired- one of those starwars lore youtubers is where i got the info from. Dont remember which channel, but it was video that was all about count dooku.
@@-Retired- apparently he didnt like some of the other alien races in the galaxy.
@@ArtofLunatik different aliens=species not race....
With that logic all humans are racist towards certain animals like insects.I personally despise roaches. Didn't know I was racist.
Buddy I'm pretty sure that source doesn't know what racism means...
Hmph
It’s crazy that Christopher Lee was 80 in this movie. R.I.P.
I really wish Christopher Lee got to see Tales of the Jedi to see how much of a fan favorite Dooku became.
He passed away 😢😢😢
@@rokball4892 Yea since 2015
Cool that such a legendary actor like Christopher Lee was in a Star Wars movie.
ked4 Just a shame it was one of the shit ones!
Actually, I liked all the Star Wars films
ked4 lol.
He was in Revenge of the Sith so he was at least in the average one
+harshbutt they were awesome
*Dooku:* A Sith Lord runs the Senate
*Kenobi:* That’s not possible... Palpatine Runs the senate
*Dooku:* Yes by being elected Sidious is now in control of the Senate playing both sides.
*Kenobi:* That’s where you’re mistaken Dooku because Palpatine was elected Chancellor.
*Dooku:* Look man I’m trying to throw you a bone here.
I mean look at it this way: every word matters (yes I’m serious lol)
He said the Republic / a buncha senators were under the control of Darth Sidious. For all the Jedi knew Darth Sidious could’ve been an outside party. Also (I’m stretching this part a bit but...) he said 100s of Senators, not all. That could mean a bunch of things. (Think of it as if the audience doesn’t know, and got no hints.)
Sidious isn't in control of the Senate. He IS the Senate.
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn Not yet
@@tweso1499 It’s treason then
@@tweso1499 it's treason then
This hits ultra hard after seeing Dooku in Tales of The Jedi. You can tell he was heartbroken when he told Obi-Wan the whole truth and the Jedi still ignored his plea. No wonder he fell to the dark side the way he did. Dooku has always been one of my fav "What-If" characters. I'm glad we're starting to see some of his origins.
At first thought, Dooku was your typical villain but all these episodes and years later, you realise there was good in him. This viewpoint changes everything you hear coming out of his mouth in this scene. How important is a viewpoint!
I love the fact that dooku wants obi wan to join him and not anakin, cuz he knows that anakin can be powerfull, but he is disorded a wreckless, while obi wan is powerfull and decided. I just love the fact that dooku could realize that.
Speculation
Right? Anakin is just overrated. Obi-Wan is a perfect successor to the Dooku - Qui-Gon lineage.
True, because Qui-Gon was his apprentice and he was Obi-Wan's master, whereas Anakin only momentarily knew Qui-Gon, not enough to learn a great deal from him.
wrong he wanted Obi wan because knew that where ever Obi wan went Anakin would follow and if obi wan joined the dark side then It would be easy to persade Anakin too as obi wan would help him and palpatine to turn anakin.
he cared for obi wan only at the time and even called him his "granson" so that makes sense
Reading the comments below; Dooku was playing Sidious.
Dooku was more of a dark Jedi rather than a full blown Sith. He was against the corruption of the Senate, it's his main reason for leaving the order. He told Obi Wan everything in this scene. Dooku was right about Qui Gon, Qui Gon already disagreed with the Order like his Master Dooku. If Qui Gon was still around at this point he'd join Dooku. Both Jedi were men of principle.
You can tell Dooku was very fond of his apprentice Qui Gon, do you really think he'd be friendly with Sidious knowing that he gave Maul the go ahead to kill his old apprentice?
The way he speaks of him in this scene displays how missed he is by Dooku.
Dooku & Qui Gon were both ahead of the game & smarter than the members in the Jedi council.
Qui Gon also made contact with Yoda from the other side, from beyond death proving what a knowledgable Jedi he was in the Force.
Basically Dooku was the leader of the first rebellion, he knew Sidious was going to transform the Republic in to an Empire. The Trade Federation was well aware of what a ass Sidious is; due to previous dealings up until Episode 1 when he screwed the Viceroid over for his own gain in the Senate after directing them to invade Naboo.
This is the hidden irony of the prequels that most 'hardcore' Star Wars fans don't get. We're cheering on the destruction of the good guys - the CIS who are actually the first fully fledged rebellion. The rebellion in Ep 4-6 is actually the 2nd fully fledged rebellion.
We don't think of the CIS as a rebellion because Sidious is a 'Chancellor' (with unlimited power) in a Galactic 'Republic'. All he did at the end of Episode 3 was change clothes and titles of himself, the republic & painted those Venator Star Destroyers grey. His political powers went unchanged since Episode 2.
My only problem with the Clone Wars animated series is it shows Dooku as constantly frowning and thereby burns an image of an 'evil' character in to the mindset of the audience, which is actually far from what he is.
If Qui-Gon lived Dooku wouldn't join Sidious.I also think he defoed the council not republic
true
I think Dooku "joined" Sidious so he could eventually take him out. He was never truly a Sith lord
The Rebellion had heroic and positive traits, something the Separatists don't have.
Very well written
I love Kenobi's sass here.
"Well I hope it doesn't take too long, I have work to do."
Christopher Lee is nobility personified. His voice, his physicality. Another one of the great british actors that elevated everything in wich they worked, along with Peter Cushing.
1:19 I'd actually kind of like to see a prequel with Qui-Gon as Dooku's apprentice
Count dooku/qui-gon stand alone would be fucking dope (but maybe new actors would fuck it up)
@@Axelovskji if not live action they could make clone wars type show.
Obi wan=dooku
Anakin=qui gon
Ahsoka =obi wan
That would be sweet!
They could do animated but live action just isn’t possible anymore
@@smorgington Yes it is. They can use different actors as younger versions of them.
I always wondered about Dooku. He seemed like he was very much playing both sides. Someone below mentioned that he didn't know who Palpatine was. Yes, he did. He was his apprentice lol. If anyone in this movie was playing a balancing role in the force, it was Dooku.
+rclines001 dooku the true mvp lol but for real what if he was a under cover jedi?
+Ben Lowe even if he did the Jedi wouldn't believe him
He literally did here, but my guess is that judging by all the other episodes of THE CLONE WARS, the jedi where not really a smart faction at that time. Really dogmatic and blind in the faith. It is as if they where not the wise jedi they once where. Dooku prolly was, eeeeh, fuck it, fuck em all.. Also gimme these dark cookies!
That's why I like Dooku's personality the best out of all the characters, maybe even out of all (currently 7) movies. Besides the Clone Wars cartoon events, Dooku really saw how flawed the jedi were, and didn't seem to care for the sith ways either, since he's never had the eyes of a corrupted force-user.
Dooku still considered himself a Jedi but he saw how weakened and blinded by the old way and the politician' submission the Order was. He sided with the Sith only to destroy them and to destroy the corrupt Republic. He was more an anti-hero than a villain. He was bad.. for the greater good.
1:02 This hits harder after Tales of the Jedi
No it doesn't. Only an idiot thinks this scene feels different after Tales of the jedi
actually. That he have no idea that Darth maul is who killed his padawan 😕
@@guardianoftheunderworld Dooku does know Maul killed Qui-Gon
How?
After Tales of the Jedi this has a whole new meaning
I like that Dooku isn't relegated to just being Palpatine's evil apprentice. The scene here paints him as an idealist, disillusioned with the Sith & Jedi. Everything he revealed to Obi-wan here is true. If Obi-wan had believed him, they may have been able to thwart Palpatine's ascension. Or Dooku may have been telling Obi-wan all this to manipulate him later. Overall a good scene that raises some questions about the motives of the main villain.
And then Dooku says like 5-lines and dies at the beginning of Episode III. It feels like a lot of untapped potential.
I wish more people saw it like this. But it's too late now for him to have been the overarching antagonist for the prequels instead of Maul/Grievous (as cool as they were)
That’s one thing I didn’t like about The CW, it reduced Dooku to being more basic
Sidious's plans for Maul were simply as a warrior, maybe an enforcer. Maul may have succeeded Sidious as Sith Master but he couldn't have ran an empire for long. That's not what he was trained for. Dooku had to put together and lead an actual government.
"It feels like a lot of untapped potential" this sentence sums up dooku's part in the movies, one of the best characters with so few scenes
@@user-ds1wd3nc8e it sums up alot of the prequels it had great potential and although it did have great bits and did characters justice like Obi wan, there was alot of untapped potential that they laid out and never did anything with
I never realized that Dooku actually was telling the truth here. I should really rewatch these as an adult lol
They’re boring as fuck as an adult. It makes me wonder what goes on in Lucas’s brain.
@@4477superman Speak for yourself, no one
Jesus, I keep forgetting how long ago these were. Really should re-watch them (and a lot of movies).
@@4477superman yeah well, adults aren’t the target audience for these movies, contrary to what all these “old school” SW fans tell themselves.
Was he telling the truth? he's a literal servant servant of the sith lord, but makes it sound as if he's against him.
Odds are they wrote this scene without the writers themselves knowing what was going on and just forgot about it when writing episode 3.
Welp, he tried to warn them but no one listened.
And they deserve it. 😂😂😂
Anyone here after watching Tales of the Jedi?
Christopher Lee's voice is so deep and menacing.
facts
Forget Anakin and Ben, forget Palpatine and Rey, this is the most convincing grandfather-grandson relationship in the franchise.
No, I feel Ben is trash or Rey. The real ones I remember are Ben Skywalker, Anakin Solo, Jacen Solo and Jaina Solo. Not those Disney trash. Otherwise I'm with you about this grandpa-grandson relationship between Dooku and Kenobi.
Yoda and Qui Gon
This scene is very different after watching Tales Of The Jedi
If only they just listened to Dooku
Obi-Wan would have, had Dooku stayed a Jedi
At the point Dooku tells the truth to Obi-Wan, his reputation is mud. The one person who would have believed him now doesn't because Dooku ruined his own reputation by turning his back on the council. Oops.
Maul was badass, Vader was sympathetic, Sidious was sadistic and manipulative, Dooku/Tyrannus was charismatic.
Grievous was always a bit intimidating, but I think the best term for him would be monstrous.
We'll always have the Clone Wars saga.
+Lee Anderson so what is you order of sith lords from best to worst then?
On a scale of bad ass, darth maul wins, on a success rate either Tyrannus or Vader.
Lee Anderson what is it about darth maul that you liked other than his lightsaber or his badass model?
Christopher lee's acting is always perfection.
Yeah, dunno why people shit on the prequels when they have Dracula in them!
When I first saw this scene as a kid, I thought Dooku was just lying and trying to get Obi-Wan to turn to the dark side, only as an adult did I realize he really just wanted him to help stop Sideous.
After watching Tales of the Jedi, it not only makes his grieving over Qui-Gon hurt more, but also shows the absolute truth in his words.
If Obi-Wan had joined him, they could’ve overthrown Sideous and maybe things would’ve turned out differently.
See, I dont think that would've worked actually. If Dooku and Obi-Wan joined together, either one or both of them would've ended up dying.
If Obi-Wan died, then Anakin would've gone completely out control SOONER.
If Obi-Wan doesn't die from the fight and escapes, Sidious would've framed it like the Jedi tried to assassinate an innocent old man and Anakin would've turned to the Dark Side sooner.
Dooku was always doomed to fail
Who’s here after Tales Of The Jedi ?
Me lol
"You must join with me Obi-wan"
Doesn't that sound familiar? Hmmm
"We must join with him, Gandalf."
Dooku is literally just Saruman with a glowstick.
Would be cool if Qui-gon was still alive and said something like:
"Tell me, "friend". When did Count Dooku abandon reason for madness?"
That's because they are the same actor.
Vader: Join me! Together we can rule the galaxy!
Fans:
Count Dooku: Join me Obi Wan!!
Fans:
Kylo Ren: Rey, I want you to join me.
Fans: iT's A cOpY oF eMpiRE!!
JM Studios Even though the movie sucked, it was nothing like Empire.
‘I told you everything you needed to know, on Geonosis, all those years ago, Kenobi.’
This hit harder after tales of the jedi
Sir Christopher Lee was a Legend.
0:58-1:10 I believe Count Dookus words here. He may have fallen to the dark side but he still cared for his apprentice Qui Gonn. Obi wan was like a son to Qui Gonn as was he to Count Dooku. It is very rare for a sith lord to care for his apprentice even on seperate sides no less. Truly an underrated character Dooku is. Christopher played his role well.
Thats exactly my thoughts, Qui Gon's death was the final straw that drew Dooku to the dark side, you can see the pain in his face before he said he wished he was still alive
@@ArchangelRG09 It seems to me like he was hoping that obi-wan would prove him wrong about the jedi, join him, and together defeat the sith just like he says. That he's internally just "begging" obi-wan to show him that the light side can win and that they can work together to reform the republic. But obi-wan not believing him, and flat-out denying the corruption in the republic, is the final straw that makes him give up on the light side and the jedi and side with the sith.
@@lenkagamine4145 you also have a good point
Yup and I think in the end dooku 's motivation are rather clear : avenging his disciple .
-By destroying sidious ( since anyway the apprentice of the dark lord will destroy him once trained enough )
-By destroying the republic with the separatist ( who he see as responsible for the decadence of the jedi)
-By destroying the Jedi council ( that he see as responsible for Qui gon's death )
Rest in Peace Christopher Lee
Just finished Tales of the Jedi it makes so much sense now
God I love Count Dooku, he is just so cool and badass, he’s one of my favourite all time characters, it would be awesome to see him in his prime, he’s always so cool, calm and collected, if not the coolest along with the Fetts and Bounty Hunters, he is down right one of the coolest characters in Star Wars, RIP Christopher Lee
And as a bonus he has the best lightsaber in all of Star Wars
This scene alone shows how dooku was not an actual sith
He was lying
@G E T R E K T 905 he was lying about wanting obi-wan to join him for sure. he knew that Obi wan was out there on behalf of the council. he knew about jango fett (he lied that he didn't know him), so Obi wan had absolutely no reason to trust him. as yoda once said "lies and deceit are the ways of the sith" , so although what he said about sidious and the senate was true, Dooku tried to paint himself as a good guy to throw obi wan off. dooku was not stupid, just manipulative like any sith lord. if he could somehow convince Obi Wan to join him on the spot, then the search for Jango, and reporting back aobut the droid foundry would have gone nowhere. Dooku was an actual Sith, him and sidious were the best siths in putting on the political Facade. the other siths were more violent and barbaric.
@G E T R E K T 905 i agree with you 100% on this, sadly i feel like the clone wars series just disregarded such a potential storyline for dooku, and made him your generic badguy because he can
I still think that Dooku planned to recruit Obi Wan so he could become the new darth lord
@G E T R E K T 905 he helds the name Darth so hes technically a sith even tough not an extremist sith. Also in legends there were sith that were genuine good and not killer or power thirsty
"I wish he...were....still alive. I could use his help right now." You can tell how much it pained Dooku to relieve the reason why he left the Jedi Order after his last Padawan was killed and there was no investigation.
"Qui Gon Jinn would never join you!" That really stung Obi-Wan. I know it's still fresh for you but you aren't the only one who loved that man like he was family, you may have lost an adoptive father but Dooku lost his adoptive son. I mean where do you think Qui Gon got his protective streak from?
Nope, Dooku is merely manipulating Obi-Wan. He's using Qui-Gon to create a bond with Obi-Wan, to gain his trust. There's no reason to think he's actually pained here.
@@ovidiudiumea4012 Qui-gon's death is supposedly one of the reasons behind his departure from the Jedi Order. His association with Darth Sidious came only later.
@@ovidiudiumea4012 taking the acting displayed at face value would be a reason. So there is a potential reason.
@@SamvedIyer This doesn't really add up plot wise. Master Sifo-Dyas died over 10 years before the events of Ep2, and Dooku ordered the creation of the clone army right after that, under the moniker of "Tyranus". Which means Dooku had already gone rogue by the time of episode 1 (which was 10 years prior, coinciding with the creation of the clone army). So while Dooku may still have been a part of the Jedi Order when Qui-Gon died, he was definitely undermining it from within at this point. We also know he was the one who erased Kamino from the Jedi archives, which indicates he did remain in the Jedi Order for some time after he fell to the dark side.
Point being, I don't think Qui-Gon's death had any impact on Dooku's feelings towards the Jedi, as he was already covertly acting against them.
@@patinho5589 Except we know that Dooku lied, schemed, and ordered Amidala assassinated, the trio of Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme killed in a public execution, and generally has no remorse for killing any Jedi, including Obi-Wan later in the same movie (only Anakin's desperate lunge saved Obi-Wan from Dooku's killing stroke).
Dooku literally couldn’t have been more obvious at telling Obi Wan who ‘Darth Sidious’ was here.
Jedi Master Count Dooku, the Severus Snape of the prequel trilogy.