Food Theory: Why Did Subway Get SO Expensive?
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Remember the days of the five dollar footlong, Loyal Theorists? Oh, those were the good 'ol days. Now we're paying $5 for a dang 6" sub. Why on earth did Subway get SO expensive?
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Oh hey I work at subway. The issue is franchise owners buying too many stores, the stores falling apart, and the owners not doing much to help. At least for the franchise I work for.
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Nah mines the same way rn lol
Their only alternative is that someone else owns a carbon copy alternative in walking distance.
@@NotaUnicorn1331 also a lot of incompetence in that place the managers are all dumb asf and won't get anything done so I call them out atp I've probably should've been fired but subway will be subway
Same for me. Something breaks every week it feels like. I'm the only one still there after so long besides the manager and it sucks haha
Isn't the answer just corporate greed?
Hello game theory 👋
Bro, did you even watch the video?
Yes game theory
hmm
But that's just a theory of course
The number one major failure of subway was actually ignoring existing franchisees. 2010s it was very common to see 2 or even 3 subways on the same parking lot. Having to compete with a clone the only choice was price changing eachother into bankruptcy
Its the Employees demanding unfair but satisfying wages . Unfare to payor not the playee
@@osmosisjones4912but why demand higher wages when it's not suppose to be a career job in the first place?
@@thelemon597 because the people serving you lunch aren't in high school and service workers deserve to be able to live.
Like if you are fine with just after school times and weekends. Sure. Make it that only high schoolers work there. But if it's the middle of the day. All those other shifts are done by people that need to pay rent. And food and other bills
@@thelemon597I was a GM of a location making the same pay as my minor employees.
When you're running an entire store (inventory, deposits, hiring...) and making the same amount as a worker who can't even operate the slicer, you demand more or walk.
@@dutchik5107 But all those people needed to pay the rent 20 years ago too, and somehow it worked fine back then.
In Canada we had 5 dollar foot long and now we have 6 dollar 6 inch. It’s brutal
Dayum
Why is the short version more expensive than the longer version??????
Let's be honest, that 6th inch is from rounding up 👀
@@moony-v3x It's not. Key word "had."
@@diamondinmyeye6160 Thanks Turdeau!
As someone who works there, corporate does a lot of sneaky things to make sandwiches more expensive. We have to charge for extra cheese, extra meat, and the “Subway Series” subs often combine several different meats and a default of extra cheese in order to increase the price. Inflation is a factor but the fact of the matter is that we have to charge for pretty much every little thing if it’s not a vegetable or sauce.
Yep even swaping from american cheese to pepper jack, we have to charge for it. Even if you are still only having one type.
"Inflation is a factor but the fact of the matter is that we have to charge for pretty much every little thing if it’s not a vegetable or sauce."
Sounds reasonable to me. Subway has always charged more for extra meat or extra cheese. Meat and cheese don't grow on trees.
I don't eat cheese, so in my experience, the "Sandwich Artist" is routinely generous with the veggies. It literally never occurred to me to demand more--certainly not in the $5 footlong era.
Hot take: Corporate greed and inflation are a given. Maybe [some] customer greed plays a role.
I’m beginning to worry about Santi. He made a normal episode of food theory…. Is he ok? Someone should check on him.
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He probably isn't. Quick, someone find a christmas tree for him to try eating!
@@hi123452008No, that's the problem. Santi ate so many trees that they took over his body and made him sane. He isn't speaking for the trees; he IS the tree.
I blame amy..that hot cheeto lip gloss was probably expired XD
Man these guys can't even be normal anymore😭
So the higher ups take a huge cut of every restaurants sales, force each store to go along with coupons and sales that they can’t honor without going under, and cut ties with the franchisee’s if they don’t play ball?
Ya know what that sounds like?
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Corporate greed.
Just not in the form we usually encounter.
Yeah, i also made a similar point thats its still very much corporate greed also with the workers' jobs on the line.
Restaurants could have everything to go
I was gonna say Quizno's.
Yup. That's what it comes down to.
If corporate is forcing franchise owners to follow stricter rules, taking larger cuts, and franchise owners are opening more locations than they can manage that's still just greed...
If the cost of rent, cost of services and employees, cost of utilities, cost of groceries, cost of gas goes up partly because of all the free money we got over the past several years from the mass printing of tons of money, then that's still just inflation...
@@newadventurer06"Mass printing of money." So watching Faux News. That did not happen.
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@newadventurer06 You realize that these prices are in nowhere in line with the actual rate of inflation inflation. For example, the rate of inflation was 4.1% last year (2023).
Having prices rise by that percentage would be in line with real inflation. But we're clearly not seeing that reflected by nonessential food services raising there prices. While hiding the fact their inflation narrative is not back by actual numbers.
@@KSmithwick1989 Companies broke their records in profit year after year since covid. They’re swimming in money and won’t stop raising prices until they can’t get away with it any longer. That’s why McDonald’s is running that $5 meal deal. People quit buying fries according to the quarterly corporate calls. Customers stopped going or began eating less to keep it cheap. McD’s is desperately trying to get their core customer base back now.
Corporate greed with extra steps
No its voter greed and lack economic education and collages comunist indoctrination based on John lenon',s LSD fueled imagination
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no.. the point is they want to help
if it was greed they wouldnt even care abput giving you price cuts
i love telling the subway people to put as many pickles as they are allowed to on my subs, i just cant get enough pickles and the look on there faces is so funny. and sometimes they write funny things on my sub like "pickles with a side of sub"
Give me so many pickles that you begin to question my sanity and your own
I do that with olives on the meatball
I always ask for extra pickles as well.) Can't go wrong with pickles.
For me it's onions and vinegar.
never seen a comment more relatable
So the problem is corporate meddling and taking a large cut of the sales. As well as letting too many stores open too close to each other.
AKA corporate greed.
"They set up shop in Some people's nightmares" is so accurate!
I worked for subway for over 10 years and i have PTSD. I haven't worked there in over 8 years and i STILL have nightmares about it.
Subway doesn't haven a limit to how many veggies you can get. But there is an amount the "sandwich artist" is supposed to put on. You really are only supposed to get 3 olives on your 6 inch. And even thought we are supposed to listen to you whe. You ask for more, we still get in trouble after you leave for giving too much.
yeah :c
I worked at a subway while I was in high school and college and I still have nightmares over a decade later. $5 foot longs were a crazy time. Once the malls started losing their subways, then I knew times were changing.
anti: "it's not just corporate greed."
Also Santi: explains what amounts to corporate greed with extra steps
Me: oh yes, SUCH a big difference (not).
I hate to break it to you, but if if it has extra steps then it is indeed not just corporate greed
Well how is it corporate greed if the reason is the prices are to cheap you here me to cheap
Did you even watch the video? It's not corporate greed it's just the problem of bad business strategy
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 But to be fair they're still making a huge profit of the expense of franchisees. So it is still corporate greed. To force their interest and neglecting others. Normally it should be a win win or at least where the corporate gets a bigger share. But here its benefiting corporate mostly.
@@patrickiamonfire965 how is making money corporate greed that like saying he that McDonald’s over raised the prices by 5 percent because of inflation the so greedy learn the difference between geeed and being able to pay bills, employees, cost for keeping products goods
Subway got greedy. Inflation is only needed in an economy that demands expansion
A Business rising prices isn’t the only form of corporate Greed.
A Corporation taking a huge chunk of Sales from franchises IS Corporate Greed.
A Corporation Strong Arming deals at the expense of their franchises, IS corporate Greed.
A Corporation Forcing lower Prices rather than taking CEO pay Cuts, IS corporate Greed!
Food Theory (Or MORTY) suggestion: Can we have a monster hunter (world, rise, wilds,etc) food theory, about how much the protagonist eats and if it does, in fact, helps in a hunt against the giant beasts?
Yes, this needs to be an episode! All those mouth watering meals need to be analyzed.
They have to pay off their lawsuit bills somehow 😭
Maybe restaurants will no longer be sitdown
With what you mentioned about the low cost to open a franchise but the high royalties. That essentially is still greed. Subway saw how much money was coming and decided to let anyone open shop to rake in more money at the expense of the franchisee. So yes, the answer is still corporate greed, Santi.
I came here to say this too, like ok so its not greed on behalf of the franchisees necessarily, but its still Corporate Subway's greed.
You do realize the answer is corporate greed...even more literal than normal. Corporate subway is squeezing the franchise owners
I wonder who you are voting for...
I swear yall didn’t watch the video the reason is because they made things to cheap and they have to make the prices go up to not lose money and not shutdown complete
@@Justyouravergegamers coumpany greed not franchise
@@LeoLau-ip9bv what are you talking about when did I say franchise
the real question is, IS IT CAKE???
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The cake is a lie
Yes it is with their bread packed full of sugar
It’s all cake
i didn't watch the video lemme check
Subway is by far the closest food to my job and I haven't seen a single coworker get Subway in years.
We just live in an age where meal prepping at home is cheaper. That being said, even grocery shopping is also tough right now.
We just live in an age where meals are just plain expensive to make.
@Santi the answer isn't corporate greed `takes air`: Is that the franchise forces the franchisees to sell at lower prices they take a massive cut, using predatory cotracts to force their franchise owners to keep pricing low to attract more customers and have more of their own cut while leaving his people hang to dry, moreover when the location itself is not bought by Subway as you said, but also most of the equiment that it's MANDATED TOO BY CONTRACT is sold to the franchisee owners by Subway themselves at a really high markup... Or you could just say "a different approach to corporate greed".
Sooo... it's corporate greed with extra steps... interesting video, thanks Santi!
Santi: "it's not just corporate greed."
Also Santi: *explains what amounts to corporate greed with extra steps*
Me: oh yes, SUCH a big difference (not).
The fact that my tiny town (of less than 2,000 people) had a Subway in the early 2000s makes so much sense now. It closed down years ago, but no one was too upset about it because the next town over has like 6 Subways.
"It isn't corporate greed because of these reasons"
*Explains how it's corporate greed*
Very cool, thank you.
Kamala voters coping hard
So corporate lowers the prices against franchisees wills, then takes 12.5% of their sales? Then won’t make a more sustainable price because they want to keep the droves of people coming in to secure and sweeten that 12.5% of sales then leave franchisees to deal with the rest of the operations cost? Sounds like corporate greed with extra steps to me.
Corporate greed at the expense of the franchise owners is STILL corporate greed.
So it's a bad business model that was reluctant to change, and even self-sabotaged its own franchises-because corporate greed.
A side note as a subway employee of 2 years now One way franchise's try to cut cost is by having as few staff as possible working as few hours as possible, meaning its reare to see a store with more than 2-3 employees working at a time some stores only have one person doing everything during the quiet points. Many are also super strict about portion control.
So please if you go to subway and are unsatisfied do not take it out on the workers we know that things arn't great (especially the series menu, do not get me started). We try our and honestly if i could give every customer exactrly what they wanted it would make out lives so much easier, but we arnt exactly will to risk our job over a single sandwhich.
This is your daily reminder that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
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Thanks For this Santi! Love your work ❤❤❤❤
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Man I feel bad for subway. It's been one of the most chillest place I'd go enter to wind down and relax. I honestly don't even mind the prices changes or such.
I dont feel sorry for CEOs who take $20+ million salary and bonuses. Paid for by the costumers and their workers labor
Corporate greed ❌
Corporate generosity ✅
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The company squeezing more from their franchise owner's to get more money so they can boost sales numbers and thus making the workers of the subways jobs on the line if the store closes. That sounds alot like corporate greed actually
@@christianjohnson4223 not to the customer 😃
if Wawa can do $6 hoagiefest Classic Hoagies with no app requirement, why can't Subway?
To call a hoagie a subway sandwich is diabolical and disrespectful lol
That’s an apples to oranges comparison. Wawa is more than just food, it’s a gas station as well. They can afford more consistent discounts with the profit they provide with other food items, products and gas
What makes me angry is that when you ask for something extra you pay but when you remove something it doesn't get cheaper
Right? I could probably buy a new laptop with all the cheese I’ve asked not to have. At least give me a nickel for not putting cheese on that McMuffin…
Well, you said that ingredients and labor are getting more expensive, but why? If you think about it, they shouldn't.
Over time more and more work is being automated, machines replace humans, and that means labor costs go down, since a machine cutting your tomatoes is much cheaper than a human doing it. The same goes for ingredients, as technology goes forward we are able to grow more and more food out of the same fragment of land, selective crossbreeding, genetic modifications and automation keep increasing yields, yet for some reason food is not getting cheaper.
I would love to get a theory about that.
@The Food Theorists - I'm surprised the video didn't cover this, but just 3 days ago I wrote the corporate Subway office complaining about their sandwiches are now just 2 inches wide. My sandwich actually looked like a large pretzel stick. After doing some research, they dropped the width of their sandwich from 4 inches to 3 inches in September '23 and apparently have dropped the width again. I told them I was going to stop eating there as Jeresy Mike's was just down the road and was not scrimping on their ingredients. Subway still has yet to respond.
you guys could just make a spinoff called subway theory at this point
the subway near my house was owned by an older couple, their store didn’t accept coupons often and unfortunately they ended up very recently closing and divorcing.. this video definitely shed some light on why that may have been the case 😢
I was shook
“They-up they week numbers”
I’m dead okay Santi
Finally, the serious questions!!
God, I remember when it was like 2 bucks a sandwich. (I was a kid but that's what I remember)
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Subway takes 12% of franchisees' sales and that's considered low? RUclips takes 45% of ours.
But it IS corporate greed. The companies we all work for need to pay us more so we can afford to buy the rising prices of all this fast food. CEOs don't need another mansion/plane/yacht/car. People aren't getting fast food because they can't afford to choose between paying their bills or putting food on the table.
Low skill workers are worth low wages
It’s not the price that made them seem budget. It’s the literal terrible quality of ingredients. I can’t believe I pay this much for food that is so heavily processed and honestly bs. 18.95 for a footlong tuna 12” combo with a small drink, chips, and avocado?!?! It’s literally made from nothing but canned and processed foods. YOU COOKED NOTHING AND IT COSTS 20$
As a Subway employee myself I've seen people with $50+ orders and it's very very easy to get up to that feeding a couple people
Santi! Keep up the good work! Please try making the krabby Patty with matpats recipe!
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@@umuppp-e7n BOOOTTT
I mean... you were saying it's not corporate greed, then you talk about the corporation having the highest royalty fee and also giving folks the boot when they don't follow their sales and coupons.
Now I know it isn't 100% Corporate greed, but in a way, that definitely is part of it. Just not as much as most other businesses. Definitely appreciate the company as a whole trying to keep things as cheap as possible compared to other companies.
So inflation does still play a bit of a role in it.
Fun fact. I work at a subway and we don’t do a ft long for 6.99. We didn’t participate and had no consequences
Anyone else going to tell him that 4 weeks of 12.5% doesn't equal 50% a month?😊
Thats... not how percentages work???
Yeah, everyone knows that 4 weeks of 12.5% will be 12.5% per month, which equals to 50% of one week!
@@Kingston8903 It is because a month is a little more than 4 exact weeks, only exception being february.
"Is not corporate greed" proceeds to describe corporate greed...
Inflation
-almost everybody u til they reach that point where they go “no, it’s not inflation”
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The McDouble has TRIPLED in price in the same time.
I think maybe the price increase is about right, lol.
9:05 to 9:17 so uh.. the answer is corporate greed?
yes it is
That's what it sounded like to me. You can also check the width of their sandwiches and I think it's down to two inches now. After doing research online, they dropped it from 4 inches wide to 3 inches wide in Sept '23. Seems like they've done it again.
I remember there was a Subway in a Walmart and across the street next to the parking lot was another Subway. So you could be eating inside one and look out the window and see the other. I haven't been back to that area in years, my guess is that at least one of them is gone.
Burger peasant goes crazy⚡️⚡️❤️
My dad owned 2 of them and for the past 20 years its been nothing but a financial detriment for us, even now, 5 years after he sold them
Corporate Greed. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Edit: You called me out within seconds, but It's still corporate greed.
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Yep
“This sign can’t stop me because I can’t read” ahh comment 💀
Also increased food prices across the board, courtesy of Harris and Biden
Didnt start as Cooperate greed but up and until yeah
7 29 Subway being 100% franchise owned means franchisees are foot the bill for all their inventory, while corporate plays Freddy Slumlord. The real estate side of subway is most likely raising lease costs and the franchisees have no choice but to raise prices to compensate.... It is highly likely corporate greed.
Something has to be done to stop the inflation for good.
This is like saying that we need to stop time.
@@Boostd4 fr
thats not how it works
Are you suggesting price controls at QSR's, comrade? Maybe limiting growth through, say, a one-child policy?
Literally WHY did this cost change!?
I needed this
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At my location, they often do BOGO footlongs, which comes out to $5.50 per footlong. It's the only time I order.
idk if its a regional thing but i always though it was the only restraunt cheaper than just making a footlong yourself (assuming you buy everything and dont make the bread)
With food prices being what they are, even making your own footlong isn't all that cheap. I think it's pretty comparable for an individual sandwich, though you'll come ahead if you make, like, 6 of them at a time, and especially if you don't consider the time investment to do so (including prep time) to be of any value.
once upon a time it was.
If you want a sandwich during lunch time at work, it's a good thing there's a meat slicer in the breakroom 😁.
So... it happens cause of Subway expanding and taking big cuts out of every location to the point stores are competing with each other... so corporate greed 😮💨
10:16 "Subway is making to look acceptance" made me do a double take
I know a franchise owner who owns a few Subway stores. He hated $5 Footlongs because while business grew, profits shrank. More product needed to be ordered, double the employees to handle the increased volume, and significantly less profit per sandwich. He wasn’t able to opt out of the promotion either.
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Don’t care
Basically live chat
They were Dutch and I’ll, their strange language was just Frisian
Subway Hack (at least where I live)
A steak and cheese footlong is $11
A steak, egg, and cheese footlong is $8
They measure the same amount of meat and cheese in both, you just get added egg in the latter.
And they serve breakfast all day.
i’m eating a subway sandwich while watching this video
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I'm just curious, but did you notice the width of the sandwich only being about 2 inches wide now? Apparently, in Sept '23 they dropped the width from 4 inches to 3 inches and they may have just dropped it down to two inches. My sandwich last week look like a large pretzel stick.
One time I went to a tourist Subway and a single six inch long, no drink, and a single cookie costed 9$. This is in a low price area.
You guys are amazing
Once upon a time, my television told me the tale of the mythical "Five Dollar Footlong". I never did encounter such a creature. Did they go extinct, or were they never real to begin with?
5$ footlong hasn't existed in years. Its actually 11-14$ for a footlong normally.
A local subway to me (In Norway) just closed down due to people (including me) refusing to by anything from them due to their dealings with Israel and involvement in human rights violations
Wendys is making a Krabby Patty! Will we watch a theory of it on Food Theory, or Film Theory, I wonder?
subways is becoming like mcdonalds 💀💀
I remembered the $2 meatball foot long.
(In Bridgeport, CT around 2002-ish)
The answer is not corporate greed. Thank you
So the answer was corporate generosity? That’s a first
No
It ain’t the same without MatPat
My college (2008-2012) had a Subway location in the union building right next to the cafeteria. Usually prices would wind up around $12-$15 bucks for a full meal and if you wanted to take leftovers your best bet was to use a flimsy paper box to do so. The $5 Footlong fed many a hungry student and faculty member during that promotion, would come with plenty of food for leftovers, and was still cheaper than the cafeteria even if you splurged on chips and a drink. The only reason it didn't shoulder out the cafeteria entirely is because students using pre-paid meal plans couldn't use the meal points at the Subway. Whoever owned that franchise must have made a killing back then. Never would have imagined my young adult boon would have been a business owner's nightmare.
Food theory idea: in the Oreo ads where they "twist on it," is it actually the same chance for cream on the left or right or is it rigged?
FT: It isn't corporate greed this time!
also FT: Proceeds to explain it's corporate greed, but towards its employees and not the customer.
Because it's so good five-dollar footlong it rhymes.
There's also the 8 billion pound elephant in the room of agricultural subsidies to major ag corpos that insist on increasing food prices after they double dip into our taxes.
As of writing this, the amount is up to 22 billion pounds a year. It's been a while since that news story first launched.
First McDonald's now Subway? How greedy are these people?
This is the first time I have been able to watch one of the theory videos only 2-3 minutes after release.
I'm literally eating Jimmy John's while watching this.
I don’t understand how the 15 dollar sandwich’s is even working . I would imagine they have lost an insane amount of business . Even more so when I could go to a rival sandwich place and pay nearly the same price for a better quality sandwich
i work at a subway, ive been there for abt 3 months, and ive had SO MANY PEOPLE complain to be abt the $5 footlongs being discontinued. its annoying but at the same time i can understand not wanting to pay (in at least my store) $5-9 dollars for a six inch, or $9-16 for a footlong
I don't think of subway competing with McDonalds but other sub places and while the others might be cost more, the cost v quality never favors subway
Stopped at one last week. 25$ for a footlong with chips and soda. Crazy.
There's no way i'm paying that much for a mediocre sandwich.
I'd rather stay at home and make my own.
You can also check the width of their sandwiches and I think it's down to two inches now. After doing research online, they dropped it from 4 inches wide to 3 inches wide in Sept '23. Seems like they've done it again. My sandwich the other day looked like a large pretzel stick.
Let's all go to Subway and order just 1 pickle and pay them what a 12 inch sandwich cost.
I'm only at Subway for the cookies.
It's actually a really big bit of controversy in my town that all Subway's within 30-40 miles DON'T accept coupons. They'll straight up tell you no, and that their franchisee doesn't accept them. Subway even mails out paper coupons every month, only for our Subway's to say they dont accept them.
5:24 I worked for subway in college. We charged by the topping and would charge extra for extras such as double meat.