The Hemi was sooo outdated it was time. There are likely millions for sale today with very low miles you can get to retain & enjoy. The way that new Hurricane inline6 turbo is going to develop power will make the majority of buyers asking why it took so long!!!
No way I would’ve thought Ram would have came out with this 5 years ago. I don’t dislike it, but I’ll miss the Hemi. Ram should have kept the Hemi like Ford keeps the Coyote.
@@seansiew5629The 3.5 Eco"beast" is dying too. Ford announced a while back that they are paying more attention to the 3.7 and have plans to create a 4.0L turbo Inline-6. They plan on making the 3.5 a high output mild hybrid V6 using similar technology as Chrysler's eTorque. The 3.7 will take the 3.5 Ecoboost's spot while adding a single turbo to it. Coyote V8 is being replaced with a new 4.0L turbo Inline-6 that Ford is currently developing.
Households are struggling to pay rent, utilities, groceries, insurance, etc...the idea of taking on a new car payment in excess of over $1000 a month is laughable 😂
If people keep buying these trucks at ridiculous prices, they'll keep selling them at ridiculous prices. It's going to take another recession to change this
Lesson. If you don’t need a truck, don’t buy one. Perhaps a smaller vehicle would suffice?There are always good used trucks in the marketplace; no one says you have to buy new. Buying what you can afford concept has been around a long time, it’s not new. I hope the price of new trucks comes down too but there are solutions in the interim. In the meantime, there are folks and businesses who can actually afford them.
The price of raw materials is going up so it’s costing auto manufacturers more to build these cars so of course the additional cost is going to get pushed to the consumer.
Should have had a supercharged 5.7L hemi R/T truck years ago but nooooo we get a hunk of crap turbo 6 😂 power or not the 5.7L can’t be replaced by a 💩 6 cylinder
I think the truck still looks good. I don’t have an issue with the I-6 and the power numbers look good, I just wish they’d keep the Hemi as an option for the people that want it.
It’s caught on fire it was going to make its Debut at road kill nights it failed this year in a challenger. It’s a game with the government and epa the HEMI will return
Just traded my 19 Rebel for a new 23 Lunar edition Rebel. Big part of my decision to trade it in was the fear that the hemi would be going away. Looks like I was right.
Almost everyone I know loves the Hemi. I did all the maintenance, and was not hard on it and all it did was give me trouble. Exhaust manifold bolts breaking. Oil pump, timing cover leak, which I fixed at the same time as failing oil pump. Valve cover gaskets. It was a Dodge/Ram product so of course the transmission. Glad to be rid of it actually.
My cars and trucks with hemi is going to fetch a nice penny soon. Dealership are already begging to buy mine at $15,000 more than I paid. I won't have a Dodge or ram without a hemi. I guess I'll be buying mustang for now on
Honestly aside from killing the hemi, They have a great strategy. That straight 6 is going to be badass. And their ev has a 600mi range with an onboard generator…way smarter than all the pure evs.
So you have a pentastar V-6 with no drive train. Just to be used as a generator? So how much does this weigh? You have a fully functioning engine and electric motors with batteries. You lug this generator with you as added weight and use it when you need to charge up the batteries. And this makes sense how? This is green how? Insanity at its finest. Can engineers get anymore idiotic? Let’s just tell the government to get out of our business and for starts… just protect the border. And when they get that right let’s give them something easier. Good luck.
@@randylear8264 I agree, overkill for the generator. A lightweight 3 or 4 cylinder would be better. But if you have to go ev at least have a generator on board.
The strategy doesn't count for much if the base price of the trucks doesn't change. The 2023's and 24's are rotting on dealer lots because nobody wants to pay $50k for an entry level trim truck. Even if interest rates drop a couple points, the prices Stellantis wants for a new Ram truck are insane and out of touch with reality.
@@SomeoneImportantLikeYou : He is talking about the hybrid truck, the 2025 Ramcharger. It's estimated to have 145 miles of electric only range & 690 miles total range - "The All-New 2025 Ramcharger delivers a Best-in-Class Targeted 690 total miles of Range and is set to be a game changer in the world of electric pickup trucks." The all electric Ram truck is the REV - "PLATFORM AND POWERTRAIN The REV rides on the new STLA Frame platform designed for body-on-frame electric vehicles. A choice of two battery packs will sit between the rails: a 168-kWh pack good for 350 miles of range and a 229-kWh pack good for 500 miles."
An available 540 hp is nuts in a half-ton street truck. The 5.7 with 395 hp 410 tq already felt pretty strong. Id imagine that powertrain does 0-60 under 5 seconds.
Honestly, they could have re-imagined the HEMI with direct & port injection. Maybe reduced displacement & added turbo(s). kept MDS and add free-wheeling. But it's something about a truck that has to have a V8. What an era.
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Also Aluminum blocks and maybe smaller capacity with turbo charging. But I belive they made the right choice in using a straight six. That configuration is very smooth and powerful. And compared to a V8, the S6 sounds almost as good.
@@JahyMoonwalkerPeople who have never driven a turbo v6 will keep hating. I traded my tuned 2018 Raptor for a 2020 Ram Limited. Mostly because I thought we were going to be towing more often but we ended up buying a small farm instead of a RV. I liked the sound of the Hemi once I added real exhaust but it was terribly weak compared to the tuned Raptor. So not even two years later I was back in a Raptor and I had it tuned for 93 octane the first week! Not as fast as a TRX or Raptor R but it has enough to get scary in a truck and I get 20mpg on the highway.
When they introduced the 5.7 it was by far the most powerful engine in the segment and proved to be reliable. I pray rams strategy hasn’t changed. Inline 6s are usually smooth and reliable but pumping out this much power in a truck this heavy will need time to prove its reliability
I’m keeping my Hemi! And now aftermarket is gonna explode with the Hemi’s. The fan base is just as big as the LS engines. So good, now I know that parts are gonna be aplenty! Not that they’re not already. Btw, the collector value of our Hemi’s just went up as far as I’m concerned
I think they have no option but to try other things, if it works good, if it doesn't , they move on , otherwise is they live in the past, they might go bankrupt.
That range extender EV on the REV is super cool. Now you can tow to a campground and have a whisper quite, powerful generator to run the camper while recharging the truck too. You won't get stranded in out of the way locations trying to use a BEV where you can't find chargers.
I'm honestly surprised Ford didn't do that with their current PowerBoost when they did the refresh for 2024, or at least give us a plug-in hybrid for that or for the smaller 2.7 Ecoboost. I understand it would add complexity. We love our PB, but having say 20 miles of pure electric for commuting would be awesome.
@richardnavratil9661 I was definitely looking at the hybrid Ford. I had a Pacifica PHEC and it was pretty great too. Take the Pacifica, add 5 times the battery and 8 times the electric horsepower plus AWD and a big tow rating? Yes please!
@@alp3781 I’m sure there will be a lot off of MSRP. The car and truck market is changing. Intermittent fasting is actually good for you and saves money.
Terrible move to just straight up drop the V8... currently drive a Ram 5.7 my next truck will be a Ford or Chevy then ..whoever will keep offering a V8
I like the Rebel trim and the the Hurricane is an awesome motor, but I'll be holding on to my Gen 1 V8 Rebel indefinitely. It's just what a real truck SHOULD be IMO. If I get another truck it will be a diesel.
Honestly the sound from the hurricane is pretty nice. I have a Wagoneer with the standard 3.0 and love the sound of it. It's quick enough and sound much better than the 3.5 ecoboost.
Now that they are finally releasing the hurricane, they can focus on the HD hemi. The 6.4 has been falling behind the competition. Sad to see the classic go.
Finally!! A car manufacturer that builds an EV with a gas engine/generator to extend range. I've been waiting for a manufacturer to do this. This is the type of EV that has any chance of converting people from a regular gas vehicle. It's a proper plug in hybrid that will ideally never have to use the gas engine unless you're on long trips. I really hope the price is competitive though. Hopefully it's right in line with the Ford Lightening. And I really hope this isn't a flop like the BMW i3 was.
Yes, that's the real big news here. That range-extending generator is a big deal for trucks and Ram has promised 500mi+ of range. I think Ram was smart to offer both the EV and EV+. They may very well be the first truck maker to figure it all out. We already know it will have the biggest battery of any EV and Ram is targeting 800+hp.
Hopefully we see a small diesel engine hybrid truck someday. It’s frustrating that the US blocks many diesel vehicles. The vw golf gets something like 70mpg. Just imagine that engine in a hybrid like a Prius (obviously something better looking)
Longtime Ram 1500 owner here: Having driven the Hurricane in a Grand Cherokee rental recently, I can say I don’t think y’all are going to miss the Hemi. The Hurricane makes a bunch of power and is smooth as silk. Better fuel economy too, I averaged 21 mpg in mostly city driving. I’d take it in a second over a Hemi.
I have a Hemi now in my Durango and had the Ford 2.7tt before. Other than the sound, the 2.7tt was better. I6 has that buttery smooth power delivery so I have no doubt I agree with you.
I had a grand wagoner for a bit and it had the hurricane engine in it. Was very smooth and sounded nice. Averaged 18 mpg. Mostly highway and little city.
They'll still complain. Even the REV and the Banshee, once they see what they do with the Hybrid/EV side of it and it starts making clowns of the Tesla folks they'll secretly love it but bash it on the forums.
This competition is VERY nice to see! Bought a Ford in 21 but the Ram was my close second choice. Not sure I like the external aesthetics but the rest, especially that HO power is awesome!
The H.O. series SST will most likely only be available in the high trim packages. So in order to get some horse power you are probably going to have to spend $80K or more.😢
I liked the front end better. My two complaints that made me trade my '21 Ram was sightlines and fuel mileage. My Powerboost F150 is so much better in those areas but suffers in interior and ride quality compared to the Ram. It's no penalty box, but the RAM is way better on those fronts.
F150s are far more comfortable then dodge or GM on road trips. I would know I own them all and the Ford is the only one I can drive 12 hours a day and not have a sore back.
Honestly the sightlines on all the modern pickups sucks. Pretty much every medium and heavy duty commercial vehicle design has moved on to designs with sloped hoods that allow for a lot greater visibility and aerodynamics. Light duty trucks are obsessed with looking super macho to help the fragile insecurity of the guys who buy them.
@@evictioncarpentry2628I had a base cloth XL F150 loaner and drove for 11 hours only stopping for fuel/restroom and am shocked I had zero fatigue after.
Not a fan of the flush body front bumper, as mentioned, it now looks like a Durango... Not a bad update but nothing too different to look at inside or out. Im just glad GM is keeping the legendary V8 alive!
@@chadd587 I agree about Chevy, but GMC is easily the best looking truck in the segement in my opinion. This new Ram looks goofy compared to the current model, which actually looked decent...
@TheRealMediaPlug23 GM has already announced investment/development of a next gen V8 for their trucks and SUV's, the small block Chevy V8 isn't going anywhere for atleast another decade.
Some of the best engines out there are/were straight 6s... the slant 6, 4.0l jeep engine (anemic, but pretty damn solid), the 5.9l Cummins and others. I'd be more inclined to get a straight six than any of the other engines out there now.
The first few minutes of this video are like a character study of Old School Truck Men. Just imagine Tim Allen grunting phrases like “girly truck… no V8… stuck in the mud…”
I think most of the low-rpm high-power turbo engines (the ones focused around trucks) are designed for the boost, and either don’t run well or don’t put out any power if the turbo is removed. I don’t see turbo-diesel engines for sale in vehicles without the turbo, and I suspect it is for the same reason
As long as the Pentastar is sticking around for other products, it's just cheaper to keep using it instead of engineering another version of the I6... for now. Also, 3.0NA is a bit lean for a full-size truck. While the SST engines should be extremely competitive, the Pentastar is now the only NA V6 base engine. The eTorque powered inverter is cool, and I can't imagine Ram not offering something with the SST engines.
It'll eventually be phased out like the Hemi and replaced with an I4 Hurricane probably. Th 2L engine with an SRT tune was able to put out almost as much HP as the original 5.7 Hemi from the mid-2000s and probably wasn't too far off in torque. I'd really like to see an I5 and V8 built on the Hurricane platform. I'd be WAY more comfortable with a 4L TTV8 under the hood of the Ram as the HO engine as opposed to the TTI6 since it would have two more cylinders to use. More displacement, more cylinders, less stress for the same power. A 2.5L I5 would actually be a good balance between power and performance. As a bonus you get baby Viper sounds with it as well. A Ram with an I5, I6, and V8 with low displacement and decent power output would do them wonders.
@@uniqu3xperience965I always heard they were cheaper than V6s because only 1 head and 2 cams. They mostly disappeared because they don’t fit well in front wheel drive cars and truck buyers moved towards V8s
You said ford does not have a V8 in their F-150s but you can get a a V8 in the F-150 you forget to say that it's unfortunate that you didn't mention that ford still offers a V8 engine in their trucks
Finally! The EV + Range Extender is the answer. Not sure why it took so long for one of the big 3 to figure this out. I still like the GMC interior a bit more but if the base Tradesman or Big Horn comes available as EV+RE around $50k then that's a pretty solid deal, would be about $40k in many states after tax incentives
I have a 2024 Rebel ordered about to go into production. If the '25 had a V8 option, I might've been tempted to hold out until they released the '25s. But I'll stick with the '24 V8 Hemi.
Grille may take some time to get used too, but it is not a big departure from the current truck. Love the power figures of the Hurricane, but got-dang-it...LONG LIVE THE HEMI!
I'm becoming more and more a fan of the classics with every new release these automakers put out. I learned a long time ago that just because the numbers look good on paper doesn't mean it translates to a better driving experience. If this engine is so much better than the V8 you would think they would have left the V8 as an option so people could decide for themselves.
Although I'm currently driving an F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost, and I do enjoy it, I really like the Ram 1500. However with the Ford, the power, capability and fuel economy of the F150 boosted six is wildly impressive and it's the best I've ever driven. I say that because I'm happy to see Ram go this direction and taking advantage of this tech, and I think they have what it takes to be successful with it. This and the tweaked styling has only added more appeal imo.
Same here ... love my F150 3.5 all the way around. The Ram is nice looking and would be on my check list for a new truck. And enough of the soft looking comments ... the new Ram looks great.
I find it comical that those of you that are already driving a boosted 6 cylinder engine are saying that it's a great platform and a good direction to be going. Then there are the ones that haven't, like current hemi owners saying that it's a shit idea to go this route 😂
@@furion7040 there's gonna be fan boys in each camp! Gives each platform a fighting chance to exist, I like a good 8 myself. It's hard not to feel like the V8 is disappearing with this move, esp with Ram/Dodge really pushing the envelope over the last decade. But it's had a good run no question, and we may find ourselves all pinning for a V8 again in the not too distant future ha.
Same here; stick to the speed limit and the 3.5L will return much better mpg than it's rated. It takes some time to learn how to drive a turbo, I average 21 mpg in mixed driving, but at the same time if I need power it's there.
@@Steve-yr5vi you make a good point, there's totally a learning curve to the turbo and it can be really rewarding once you find the sweet spots for different driving tasks.
Have a friend who has a Wagoneer with the Hurricane 6. He's a district manager for a auto parts store and travels all over the Southeast and has 80k miles on it. No issues, and he loves the power and interior. As a mechanic of over 40 years i find the Penestar V6 a good and solid engine. I also believe RAM is developing a new hemi V8 that will be available in about 2 years. ???
I suspect we recently passed max full size pickup sales in the US. First and foremost, astronomical MSRP's coupled with dealer sales gimmicks have conspired to put the Ram out of reach for many prospects. Despite all these improvements, these new trucks are entering a shrinking market.
False lol… had to go to the other side of Canada to get my 24 Denali… sold out across Canada and continues to be sold out…. There’s definitely not a shortage of people who can afford them
@@handleymacdonald5760probably comes down to pricing in US vs Canada, i remember when the new gen civic came out it came out more expensive in the united states (even after doin the conversion of currencies) while having far fewer/cut features aswell in american models. Id assume this might be the case across the board? Pricing wise at least but idk
As a prev Limited owner with the Hemi I’m actually happy to see it gone. The Hemi was a bit weak and guzzled gas. Only thing it had going was the sound. I always preferred the Ford power trains because the turbo provides for good low end power and also were very quick. Also when it came to towing the Hemi really started to struggle. This looks like a really solid update, the interiors on the Rams have always been excellent.
Woah! That's pretty good. However, they dropped the V8. That's gonna hurt their sales figures badly. Then again, only time will tell. Toyota did the same thing, but I'm sure of their sales numbers. The Ram Charger is gonna be a big hit for the electric utilities. They've been waiting for something like this for a long time. EVs aren't there for rural electric utilities and the sales numbers will show. Great video guys! Looking forward to the Ram Charger video!
Hopefully they found a way to make the hurricane live! They've had serious issues in the grand Cherokee and grand wagoneer. Seems the oil coolers and turbochargers are extremely prone to premature failures.
Barely a decade after the Ecoboost was introduced, when everyone was criticizing Ford and lamenting turbo engines, here we are with Stellantis and GM doing exactly what Ford did. I grew up a Mopar fanboy and a Ford hater, and here I am now seriously considering jumping ship to Ford...............
I have had four 3.6L Pentastars in everything from a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Chrysler 300c, RAM 1500 WT, and a Chrysler Town and Country. All four vehicles have been excellent!
I have the SO Hurricane in my Wagoneer and it's great overall. Very quiet, smooth, powerful, etc. I have the Hemi version right now as a loaner with mine in for an oil change and some updates and even though the Hemi sounds amazing, it is noticably slower and less torquey.
They didn't change the hood at all or even the fenders. They slightly tweaked the lower plastic fender trim to fit the slimmer head lights and that's it, not body work changes. The only thing they changed on the front is the grills, headlights and bumper.
Tbh I like this. For instance the new toyota tundra changed too much for the exterior and looks awful. Interior and power train is what auto manufactures should be focusing on more than anything.
The 1987 Buick turbo 3.8L V-6 with bolt ons safely and reliably made 800+hp. Mine made over 500 with a fuel pump, injectors, adjustable pressure regulator, upgraded turbo, intercooler, downpipe, adjustable wastegate, ecm chip, catback with no cat, and home made alcohol injection from a washer fluid bottle, line and nozzle. Never upgraded the headers, throttle body, heads, springs, etc , which always added another 200hp. Blueprint, port + polish, and forged internals and they were running in the 7s with a few in the 6s 20 years ago. Such a setup can be factory tuned lean and fuel efficient with with the ability to tune it from 300hp to 800hp with little to no parts. On paper it would be an extremely low emissions vehicle but give the customer what they want at the same time, even more so if it was flex fuel capable. That’s the route I think they should go.
I love an inline six! Im excited for this! My Hemi was a great engine and love a V8 as well. But if they are leaving then the inline six should be awesome.
Two problems with that. For one this is Stellantis we're talking about here. The engine in the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer doesn't have a dipstick, so you literally can't check the oil physically unless you drain it. Even if you are willing to rely on the sensors, again we're talking about Stellantis here, you still can't check to see if there is cross contamination between the fluids or metal in the oil if a bearing is starting to let go. The other thing is while these can produce more power it's doing it with two less cylinders and high boost. Even if they build the engine with forced induction in mind you will probably still wear it out faster than the 5.7 or 3.6 if you load it out constantly. I'd feel more comfortable with a 4.8L I6 Hemi built off of the 6.4 platform and hardened like the Hellcat than the Hurricane since the engine has more displacement. It won't have to work as hard and you still get the Hemi reliability. It wouldn't be the first Chrysler inline 6 Hemi either since they've already made one I the Australian market and it was about as solid as the Slant Six.
@@DJ2226the thing about the dipstick missing,,, actually a lot of companies are actually going away with the dipstick and using sensors to check your oil, and yes I agree this is a terrible idea.
@@DJ2226 so a couple of things, the 3.0T is based off of the 2.0T that has been serving duty in the JL Wrangler since 2018. It doesn't have any known catastrophic issues and is pretty solid on performance. Where Stellantis was smart was to make the turbo system parallel as opposed to sequential like the V6s from Ford and Toyota. That means on demand boost, seamlessly and ab experience closer to a naturally aspirated engine in being linear with power delivery. As a fan of the Hemi, I'm saddened by its demise, but at least Ram has answered with big power and increased technology.
The Ram version of the L6 has always been the Cummins B series. The only issues with the newer versions are the fact that they tried to make them quieter (now have issues that didn't happen with solid lifters/cams) and the emissions systems on diesels are terrible.
@@rich7447 The newer versions of the Cummims B Series Emgomes were required to meet the emission s set forth by the EPA, and this is the way they had to do it. Even Ford and GM had to do it as well! I am a true believer in the CUMMINS ENGINES, and have had them in Dodge/ Ram pickups since 1990!
They need to bring the Dakota back as a real mid size truck (not a 3 row suv with a bed) with the hurricane i6, offer the 8 speed auto and a 6 speed manual.
3.6 Pentastar seems a bit overkill for what's basically a generator. If all they're doing is charging the battery I'm surprised they didn't use one of their inexpensive 4cyl options. Even still, I love the idea of the range extended version. No matter how they slice it, filling up with gasoline takes minutes and the infrastructure is already there to support it. And when you're running the vehicle around when at home you're going to be charging at your house. Really look forward to seeing the reviews when they come out. IMO, this is a great solution.
It takes electricity to run gas stations and to pump and pay for gas. Electricity is everywhere. No grid upgrades are needed, especially as most electric vehicles can get charged at home late night when the grid has ample and excess capacity while most people are sleeping. Gas station construction with in ground tanks is expensive. Electric vehicle chargers are cheap in comparison.
I dont think the grid is anywhere near ready for 300 million vehicles, that will take decades, not to mention all the batteries. We are decades away from electric vehicles beating engines.
Being a ram owner with a hemi engine I’m glad they made the big switch. I thought it suck that they would only offer a high output engine to the TRX truck. Here it is GMC and Chevy always have offer engines that had over 400 and something hp. But ram only stuck with in 1500 and Laramie 395 hp for decades.
If we read the market right , the novelty of electic is waning fast globally , govt fumding has stopped for them , battery manufacturers are cutting production , price of electricity costs more than conventional feul fill ups , charging time , thermal runaway , instant deadly self conbustion . Manufacturers have a few models to entertain but they are still building conventional vehicles and ALL are ready to ditch ev phev and dhevs .
Electric cars powered by lithium-ion batteries are a nightmare! Personally, I can't understand how people decide to buy these cars and park them in their garage or near their house. It's a BOMB on wheels! If it catches fire, that's all - it can't be extinguished. You can drive an excavator, dig a hole, dump your train there, bury it, and it will burn in the ground for another 3 days. This is a terrible technology!
Well. It has finally came true. The final major part that made it American was the Hemi engine and now its gone. Now the only reliable part of the truck is the ZF 8speed transmission(not counting the Pentastar V6 models). 😢
The electric option is very interesting. A gas engine that is designed to run at a specific RPM can be made to be very efficient. I am not a tree huger, but this sounds good.
Thank goodness someone came out with a straight 6 Turbo instead of a V6 Turbo. I have always loved the inline engines for boost as they are simple. I have no plans of trading my 6.7 Cummins but If i did this would probably be what I would go for if going with a turbo gas. The hemi, coyote and 6.2 are the best option if going NA.
I’m kinda excited for the range extended ram, I think that’s part of the reason why Chinese EVs are successful, many of them are range extended,but isn’t 3.6 v6 bit overkill for that purpose ? I think the 2.0 hurricane is more than enough
I think the Pentastar was the smarter choice. It's a smooth, reliable, proven workhorse that's very low maintenance (doesn't even have direct injection, so no need to worry about those expensive services). There are tons of them out there with 400k+ miles dutifully serving, I highly doubt we'll see these small turbocharged engines from any manufacturers matching them in terms of longevity and maintenance costs (and refinement).
@@omgcool7206 I see your point, I had a 2014 Jeep JK with the 3.6, zero issue, but I heard in very rare occasions it’s suffers cracking cylinder head meanwhile the 2.0 hurricane has no major issue except it being a direct injection,durability is questionable but in a hybrid vehicle with strong electric motor and battery the gas engine is rarely under stress so I think the durability issue will be mitigated , considering the Chrysler is pushing 540hp with the 3.0 hurricane, the 2.0 siblings should have decent durability too?
Huge Ram fan here, I’d like to see a factory dashcam option on these. It’s like the only thing missing other than a V8 Hemi. I’m gonna hold on to my 2023 Ram 1500 for another year or so before I buy another, let them sort out any problems with the new stuff on these trucks.
Keep in mind that the Ram 1500 is one of the most globally similar trucks made today. Folks who get them in Norway end up with a very similar truck as what is in my driveway in Indiana. Ram has to adapt to global concerns to stay efficient at their plant or they’d end up like Toyota and producing in too many countries and offering too many engine options
GM is able to do the same thing with the Silverado 1500 without sacrificing the V8. Infact here in N.Z the Silverado 1500 is only avaliable with the 6.2L.
Would love to see you guys get into the weeds regarding the 6.8 vs 7.3. Such as: gas mileage difference when empty, mildly loaded, and fully loaded. And towing differences. And what the driving experience is like: I test drove a 7.3 F-350 SRW and couldn't believe how often the traction control and transmission torque management seemed to be kicking in, to take over the throttle. That's something that was really obvious, but you guys never mentioned it, and it really feels wierd.
Good video. I'm a little surprised they didn't keep the 5.7 around or come out with a new V8 but that's the way the world is now. I don't really care for the new design the Ram trucks are starting to look more like an SUV than a truck. But I'll wait to see it in person sometimes they look better in person. Also the CEO recently said that they're going to shelve the TRX name for now.
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They might be working on a new all aluminum Hemi with direct injection and boost, but that adds complexity as well as cost, and it will be heavier than an i6. I guess that new V8 only will be available in TRX/Hellcat configurations.
Don’t give 2 sh*ts about the sound. If people want to sound like a bunch of whiney simps trying to look cool lamenting about the sound, buy GM, get one of the millions new Hemis sitting (languishing???) on the lots currently. In the meantime I will enjoy the power the new SST is going to produce that will far outperform the Hemi,,,, 😂😂😂. My dad used to always say “sh*t or get off the pot! Just make up your mind!” He would be applauding them for finally making a change necessary to compete with the current newer motors out there. The 5.7 wasn’t doing it anymore. Ford’s 5.0 sales are falling and it’s very likely to disappear as well. 80+% of torque around 2,000 rpm is very useful and invigorating,,,,, turbo is the way to go efficiently right now.
They were headed in the right direction back in 2019 and now in 2025- Left turn into the ditch. I have no issue with 6 cyl trucks (I own a 3.5 Ecoboost) but at every point I wished it was a V8. If they made a V8 turbo, It would DOMINATE the class. As far as "EV" is concerned, absolutely in the right direction. Full EV might be the future but its FAR in the future. Hybrid EV's are the near future. Good on Ram for realizing this.
I had an I-6 in a trailblazer. Zero issues sold it original transmission and engine 238k miles. (I plan to skip turbos and go from my 2011 v8 to electric.)
Okay, everyone! If you gtew up in tge 70's, *_"SST"_* actually means something to you. A double meaning, actually. There were SST toy cars, which were powered by a wheel and s rip cord; and they were amazing, for the time. Then there were the Supersonic Transport vehicles, such as tge Concorde, tge Tupolev Tu-144. So, RAM seems to be capitalizing on the acronym. I like it!
You're spot on man. Hell I wouldn't touch anything new from any company these days. They're all hot garbage, not to mention dealer markups and depreciation with FCA.
Most people who have seen my channel know that i am a huge fan of the Hemi engine family. However, i have driven the new Hurricane HO engine in the grand wagoneer (i have a review video of this, including how it sounds.) And i personally have torn down a Hurricane engine. My thoughts are that while it won't check the boxes for those who are die hard V8 fans, i still believe it's going to be a very good engine that makes great power. It's strong where it needs to be strong and seems well made. I'm less excited about the standard output model however.
You heard it here first, the "DuRAMgo" is coming. Finally. What about MPG for the new engines? So glad they went with an I-6 as that is the ideal configuration for 6 cylinders.
No more V8 hemi? End of an era right there.
correct. No more V8.
Didn’t like dodge before still don’t like them…
@@ryanfaubert2014what about the HD rams? That Cummins engine is great
The Hemi was sooo outdated it was time. There are likely millions for sale today with very low miles you can get to retain & enjoy. The way that new Hurricane inline6 turbo is going to develop power will make the majority of buyers asking why it took so long!!!
That's exactly why it's a deal breaker for me. No Hemi, no gimme.
No way I would’ve thought Ram would have came out with this 5 years ago. I don’t dislike it, but I’ll miss the Hemi. Ram should have kept the Hemi like Ford keeps the Coyote.
I don’t think Ford is keeping Coyote much longer either tbh. Its days are numbered as well.
@@d3adk964 true, the 3.5 Ecoboost V6 would replace its spot too
@@d3adk964 The Coyote is being kept for the duration of the S650 Generation, so until 2030-2032.
@@seansiew5629The 3.5 Eco"beast" is dying too. Ford announced a while back that they are paying more attention to the 3.7 and have plans to create a 4.0L turbo Inline-6. They plan on making the 3.5 a high output mild hybrid V6 using similar technology as Chrysler's eTorque. The 3.7 will take the 3.5 Ecoboost's spot while adding a single turbo to it. Coyote V8 is being replaced with a new 4.0L turbo Inline-6 that Ford is currently developing.
Fords coyote has cylinder deactivation
Households are struggling to pay rent, utilities, groceries, insurance, etc...the idea of taking on a new car payment in excess of over $1000 a month is laughable 😂
If people keep buying these trucks at ridiculous prices, they'll keep selling them at ridiculous prices. It's going to take another recession to change this
Lesson. If you don’t need a truck, don’t buy one. Perhaps a smaller vehicle would suffice?There are always good used trucks in the marketplace; no one says you have to buy new. Buying what you can afford concept has been around a long time, it’s not new.
I hope the price of new trucks comes down too but there are solutions in the interim. In the meantime, there are folks and businesses who can actually afford them.
The pain is coming and rapidly!!! Ugh!!
Yea i'll stick to my $500 30 year old Toyota. Will probably still outlast this thing too.
The price of raw materials is going up so it’s costing auto manufacturers more to build these cars so of course the additional cost is going to get pushed to the consumer.
I like the added performance, but I keep wondering what the longevity is with all these smaller, more powerful engines.
Should have had a supercharged 5.7L hemi R/T truck years ago but nooooo we get a hunk of crap turbo 6 😂 power or not the 5.7L can’t be replaced by a 💩 6 cylinder
This engine is built like a tank, it'll be fine.
history has shown us that the Inline-6 engine format is typically bullet proof.
Ford ecoboost has been relatively solid.
@@BoostedYotecan and has
I think the truck still looks good. I don’t have an issue with the I-6 and the power numbers look good, I just wish they’d keep the Hemi as an option for the people that want it.
The wouldn’t do that, because that’s what most people would get. And that doesn’t fit the “agenda” if you will.
Government is to blame for the death of the v8
V8’s are failing new emissions.
I hope this isnt a new redesign because it looks the same
Exactly. Let the market decide rather than shove the climate change hoax down everyone’s throat
420 hp 469 tq 😅 engineers were having fun 😂
To bad most of us wouldn’t understand them it’s an Italian engine
trying to attract a younger group of consumers haha
@dang5553 it's not an Italian engine. They been working on this engine for 5yrs.
It’s caught on fire it was going to make its Debut at road kill nights it failed this year in a challenger. It’s a game with the government and epa the HEMI will return
@@dang5553I mean the HeMi was built in Mexico,,, so was the hurricane
Just traded my 19 Rebel for a new 23 Lunar edition Rebel. Big part of my decision to trade it in was the fear that the hemi would be going away. Looks like I was right.
Did you get it new in 19? Or?
Almost everyone I know loves the Hemi. I did all the maintenance, and was not hard on it and all it did was give me trouble. Exhaust manifold bolts breaking. Oil pump, timing cover leak, which I fixed at the same time as failing oil pump. Valve cover gaskets. It was a Dodge/Ram product so of course the transmission. Glad to be rid of it actually.
They'll be coming out a new hemi soon enough
@@2010drive hwmi 2 cyl engine
5.7 hemi only came with etorq trash for 2023 why I stuck with my 19
RIP to the 5.7 Hemi, a great engine that will be missed!
Hold that thought....a new version may be in dev
Going to miss hearing them tick at red lights
@@josepuga3387 yea cant deny that haha
@@josepuga3387It's gonna miss seeing you trying to keep up too...👌....Lol
My cars and trucks with hemi is going to fetch a nice penny soon. Dealership are already begging to buy mine at $15,000 more than I paid. I won't have a Dodge or ram without a hemi. I guess I'll be buying mustang for now on
As a Ford F-150 owner, the Ram is a sharp looking truck! I like the mild update on the front end!
Honestly aside from killing the hemi, They have a great strategy. That straight 6 is going to be badass. And their ev has a 600mi range with an onboard generator…way smarter than all the pure evs.
So you have a pentastar V-6 with no drive train. Just to be used as a generator? So how much does this weigh? You have a fully functioning engine and electric motors with batteries. You lug this generator with you as added weight and use it when you need to charge up the batteries. And this makes sense how? This is green how? Insanity at its finest. Can engineers get anymore idiotic? Let’s just tell the government to get out of our business and for starts… just protect the border. And when they get that right let’s give them something easier. Good luck.
@@randylear8264 I agree, overkill for the generator. A lightweight 3 or 4 cylinder would be better. But if you have to go ev at least have a generator on board.
The strategy doesn't count for much if the base price of the trucks doesn't change. The 2023's and 24's are rotting on dealer lots because nobody wants to pay $50k for an entry level trim truck. Even if interest rates drop a couple points, the prices Stellantis wants for a new Ram truck are insane and out of touch with reality.
@@SomeoneImportantLikeYou : He is talking about the hybrid truck, the 2025 Ramcharger. It's estimated to have 145 miles of electric only range & 690 miles total range - "The All-New 2025 Ramcharger delivers a Best-in-Class Targeted 690 total miles of Range and is set to be a game changer in the world of electric pickup trucks."
The all electric Ram truck is the REV - "PLATFORM AND POWERTRAIN The REV rides on the new STLA Frame platform designed for body-on-frame electric vehicles. A choice of two battery packs will sit between the rails: a 168-kWh pack good for 350 miles of range and a 229-kWh pack good for 500 miles."
I WANT MY HEMI BACK!! 😭😭 I’ll just keep my 4th gen RAM express lol
Goodbye Hemi lifter tick, Hello turbo bearing squeal 😂
😂
And warped manifolds 😮
I much rather deal with broken exhaust manifold bolts on a Hemi than this engine. @@tdel8613
No company built more Turbos in the 80's than Chrysler. If anything like that the Turbos should be awesome.
You're right. That Omni GLHS was a badass little car!@@bikingD
An available 540 hp is nuts in a half-ton street truck. The 5.7 with 395 hp 410 tq already felt pretty strong. Id imagine that powertrain does 0-60 under 5 seconds.
395 hp*
Yep my parent's 2019 my dad loves it 8spd and almost 400hp. zero effort
A 6300lbs Grand Wagoneer L hit 0-60 in 4.6 secs on MT, so a 5800lbs Ram w/ 392 rear is going to be insane.
My 5.0L still spanks the new rams lol
@@evictioncarpentry2628 for now
The 3.6L v6 is a good engine and I'm glad to see the I6 back! Glad the hybrid is a generator with a electric drive only.
Honestly, they could have re-imagined the HEMI with direct & port injection. Maybe reduced displacement & added turbo(s). kept MDS and add free-wheeling. But it's something about a truck that has to have a V8. What an era.
Also Aluminum blocks and maybe smaller capacity with turbo charging. But I belive they made the right choice in using a straight six. That configuration is very smooth and powerful. And compared to a V8, the S6 sounds almost as good.
420hp and 540hp is awesome but If they drop the V8 they’re gonna lose a lot of customers! Nothing beats a good ole V8
Nothing beats a V8! Except for the engine that literally beats it in every metric.
@JahyMoonwalker no replacement for displacement. Less reliable
@@agger838 ah yes the super reliable dodge lol
@@JahyMoonwalkerPeople who have never driven a turbo v6 will keep hating. I traded my tuned 2018 Raptor for a 2020 Ram Limited. Mostly because I thought we were going to be towing more often but we ended up buying a small farm instead of a RV.
I liked the sound of the Hemi once I added real exhaust but it was terribly weak compared to the tuned Raptor. So not even two years later I was back in a Raptor and I had it tuned for 93 octane the first week!
Not as fast as a TRX or Raptor R but it has enough to get scary in a truck and I get 20mpg on the highway.
@@RSRS-ws3px yeah, it's the RUclips comment section, I have no positive expectations
As a retired tech, I will have to keep up on this Hurricane engine. I see $$$ signs working on the first gen of any!
When they introduced the 5.7 it was by far the most powerful engine in the segment and proved to be reliable. I pray rams strategy hasn’t changed. Inline 6s are usually smooth and reliable but pumping out this much power in a truck this heavy will need time to prove its reliability
I’m keeping my Hemi! And now aftermarket is gonna explode with the Hemi’s. The fan base is just as big as the LS engines. So good, now I know that parts are gonna be aplenty! Not that they’re not already. Btw, the collector value of our Hemi’s just went up as far as I’m concerned
Globalism is going to kill your expectation of aftermarket support. Welcome to the new world order.
I look forward to the 2026 when they have to bring back the V-8 because the twin turbo is crapping itself and cannot get parts.
I think they have no option but to try other things, if it works good, if it doesn't , they move on , otherwise is they live in the past, they might go bankrupt.
Nothing FCA can get parts. They're always backordered. V8 won't come back.
Lol ya probably right.
Ford's ecoboost has proved that turbos can be pretty reliable, but Ford had its growing pains at first too.
@@kinsmen1764bruh that’s not why they moved to a v6 because of the government. It’s Dodge’s fault why it went this way😂
That range extender EV on the REV is super cool. Now you can tow to a campground and have a whisper quite, powerful generator to run the camper while recharging the truck too. You won't get stranded in out of the way locations trying to use a BEV where you can't find chargers.
I'm honestly surprised Ford didn't do that with their current PowerBoost when they did the refresh for 2024, or at least give us a plug-in hybrid for that or for the smaller 2.7 Ecoboost. I understand it would add complexity. We love our PB, but having say 20 miles of pure electric for commuting would be awesome.
It will be able to power your house too in complete silence. The battery will recharge while you drive to work and run errands.
@richardnavratil9661 I was definitely looking at the hybrid Ford. I had a Pacifica PHEC and it was pretty great too. Take the Pacifica, add 5 times the battery and 8 times the electric horsepower plus AWD and a big tow rating? Yes please!
Just hold till you see how much it will cost you, out the door....LOL. Make sure you don't eat, before you enter the dealer. 😂😂😂
@@alp3781 I’m sure there will be a lot off of MSRP. The car and truck market is changing. Intermittent fasting is actually good for you and saves money.
Terrible move to just straight up drop the V8... currently drive a Ram 5.7 my next truck will be a Ford or Chevy then ..whoever will keep offering a V8
Chevy will continue to have the V8 for atleast the next decade.
The 5.0 Coyote isn't going anywhere!@@dallasfrost1996
@@dallasfrost1996Especially Ford.
I like the Rebel trim and the the Hurricane is an awesome motor, but I'll be holding on to my Gen 1 V8 Rebel indefinitely. It's just what a real truck SHOULD be IMO. If I get another truck it will be a diesel.
Honestly the sound from the hurricane is pretty nice. I have a Wagoneer with the standard 3.0 and love the sound of it. It's quick enough and sound much better than the 3.5 ecoboost.
Girly Girl sound 😂😂😂
They both sound like garbage mate.
Now that they are finally releasing the hurricane, they can focus on the HD hemi. The 6.4 has been falling behind the competition. Sad to see the classic go.
Yea I went with a Chevy HD the 2024 has a great refresh. Wanted a RAM but they are so outdated.
Finally!! A car manufacturer that builds an EV with a gas engine/generator to extend range. I've been waiting for a manufacturer to do this. This is the type of EV that has any chance of converting people from a regular gas vehicle. It's a proper plug in hybrid that will ideally never have to use the gas engine unless you're on long trips.
I really hope the price is competitive though.
Hopefully it's right in line with the Ford Lightening.
And I really hope this isn't a flop like the BMW i3 was.
Yes, that's the real big news here. That range-extending generator is a big deal for trucks and Ram has promised 500mi+ of range. I think Ram was smart to offer both the EV and EV+. They may very well be the first truck maker to figure it all out. We already know it will have the biggest battery of any EV and Ram is targeting 800+hp.
Chevy Volt was ahead of its time
Chevy Volt and BMW i3 REX also had gasoline engines to extend range.
Hopefully we see a small diesel engine hybrid truck someday. It’s frustrating that the US blocks many diesel vehicles. The vw golf gets something like 70mpg. Just imagine that engine in a hybrid like a Prius (obviously something better looking)
Love my i3...will live this one 😊
Longtime Ram 1500 owner here: Having driven the Hurricane in a Grand Cherokee rental recently, I can say I don’t think y’all are going to miss the Hemi. The Hurricane makes a bunch of power and is smooth as silk. Better fuel economy too, I averaged 21 mpg in mostly city driving. I’d take it in a second over a Hemi.
How does it tow?
I have a Hemi now in my Durango and had the Ford 2.7tt before. Other than the sound, the 2.7tt was better. I6 has that buttery smooth power delivery so I have no doubt I agree with you.
Road tests the Hurricane was 1 mpg better,performance the 6.4 was quicker than the 510 hp Hurricane from 5-60 and passing!!
I had a grand wagoner for a bit and it had the hurricane engine in it. Was very smooth and sounded nice. Averaged 18 mpg. Mostly highway and little city.
They'll still complain. Even the REV and the Banshee, once they see what they do with the Hybrid/EV side of it and it starts making clowns of the Tesla folks they'll secretly love it but bash it on the forums.
This competition is VERY nice to see! Bought a Ford in 21 but the Ram was my close second choice. Not sure I like the external aesthetics but the rest, especially that HO power is awesome!
The H.O. series SST will most likely only be available in the high trim packages. So in order to get some horse power you are probably going to have to spend $80K or more.😢
Even $80k is optimistic. Rebels approach $80k now and Limited’s approach $90k
I liked the front end better. My two complaints that made me trade my '21 Ram was sightlines and fuel mileage. My Powerboost F150 is so much better in those areas but suffers in interior and ride quality compared to the Ram. It's no penalty box, but the RAM is way better on those fronts.
F150s are far more comfortable then dodge or GM on road trips. I would know I own them all and the Ford is the only one I can drive 12 hours a day and not have a sore back.
Honestly the sightlines on all the modern pickups sucks. Pretty much every medium and heavy duty commercial vehicle design has moved on to designs with sloped hoods that allow for a lot greater visibility and aerodynamics. Light duty trucks are obsessed with looking super macho to help the fragile insecurity of the guys who buy them.
@@evictioncarpentry2628idk my 15 ram i find more comfy that my brother in laws 23 f-150
@@evictioncarpentry2628I had a base cloth XL F150 loaner and drove for 11 hours only stopping for fuel/restroom and am shocked I had zero fatigue after.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 💯 correct
They made the truck look a lot more car/suv like with the big on piece bumper, not saying its bad looking but just what i saw
it's slowly becoming more of a girl's truck
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl Most people who work a truck have abandoned 1/2 tons anyway.
Not a fan of the flush body front bumper, as mentioned, it now looks like a Durango... Not a bad update but nothing too different to look at inside or out. Im just glad GM is keeping the legendary V8 alive!
@TheRealMediaPlug23 I disagree. GM is investing in new V8's going forward and trucks make the best use case to recoup development costs.
@@blang38GM is developing a new small block V8.
If only the gm twins didn't look like crap
@@chadd587 I agree about Chevy, but GMC is easily the best looking truck in the segement in my opinion. This new Ram looks goofy compared to the current model, which actually looked decent...
@TheRealMediaPlug23 GM has already announced investment/development of a next gen V8 for their trucks and SUV's, the small block Chevy V8 isn't going anywhere for atleast another decade.
Some of the best engines out there are/were straight 6s... the slant 6, 4.0l jeep engine (anemic, but pretty damn solid), the 5.9l Cummins and others. I'd be more inclined to get a straight six than any of the other engines out there now.
2JZ, OM606, Vortec 4200, BMW B58, Ford Barra are more good examples
@@dro3m Agreed, but I was keeping it in the (former) Chrysler family.
@@skiahh Ah yes should of realized
The first few minutes of this video are like a character study of Old School Truck Men. Just imagine Tim Allen grunting phrases like “girly truck… no V8… stuck in the mud…”
I thought they might do a naturally aspirated version of the straight six as a base engine instead of keeping the 3.6 V6.
Interesting guess, but the 3.6L V6 is still there.
I think most of the low-rpm high-power turbo engines (the ones focused around trucks) are designed for the boost, and either don’t run well or don’t put out any power if the turbo is removed. I don’t see turbo-diesel engines for sale in vehicles without the turbo, and I suspect it is for the same reason
As long as the Pentastar is sticking around for other products, it's just cheaper to keep using it instead of engineering another version of the I6... for now. Also, 3.0NA is a bit lean for a full-size truck. While the SST engines should be extremely competitive, the Pentastar is now the only NA V6 base engine. The eTorque powered inverter is cool, and I can't imagine Ram not offering something with the SST engines.
It'll eventually be phased out like the Hemi and replaced with an I4 Hurricane probably. Th 2L engine with an SRT tune was able to put out almost as much HP as the original 5.7 Hemi from the mid-2000s and probably wasn't too far off in torque. I'd really like to see an I5 and V8 built on the Hurricane platform. I'd be WAY more comfortable with a 4L TTV8 under the hood of the Ram as the HO engine as opposed to the TTI6 since it would have two more cylinders to use. More displacement, more cylinders, less stress for the same power. A 2.5L I5 would actually be a good balance between power and performance. As a bonus you get baby Viper sounds with it as well. A Ram with an I5, I6, and V8 with low displacement and decent power output would do them wonders.
@@uniqu3xperience965I always heard they were cheaper than V6s because only 1 head and 2 cams. They mostly disappeared because they don’t fit well in front wheel drive cars and truck buyers moved towards V8s
You said ford does not have a V8 in their F-150s but you can get a a V8 in the F-150 you forget to say that it's unfortunate that you didn't mention that ford still offers a V8 engine in their trucks
540hp is really good! That will be smoking most cars on the road let alone trucks lol, throw a tune on the ram and people will be seeing over 600hp. 🎉
If the trains holds up. That trains isn't the same at the one in the TRX or anything that had more then 500hp before.
*transmission
It still looses in towing to GM’s 3.0 duramax. IMO that’s the best option for a half ton truck in today’s market.
Absolutely. Best engine I've ever owned.
Loses*
Loose rhymes with goose
No it wont😂 hurricane makes 240hp and 40ftlbs more
3.0 Duramax at 100 k have to remove engine to replace fuel pump and oil pump belt. No thanks....
U right@@desertfresh3740
Finally! The EV + Range Extender is the answer. Not sure why it took so long for one of the big 3 to figure this out.
I still like the GMC interior a bit more but if the base Tradesman or Big Horn comes available as EV+RE around $50k then that's a pretty solid deal, would be about $40k in many states after tax incentives
Yes, that’s the key. Needs to be mid to low $50,000 range, otherwise it would be more effective to get a lower trim and save your money.
I have a 2024 Rebel ordered about to go into production. If the '25 had a V8 option, I might've been tempted to hold out until they released the '25s. But I'll stick with the '24 V8 Hemi.
Hope you didn’t get the 5.7… Etorq is straight shit.
Grille may take some time to get used too, but it is not a big departure from the current truck.
Love the power figures of the Hurricane, but got-dang-it...LONG LIVE THE HEMI!
Pass, I’ll stick with my hemi 💪
Okay
I'm becoming more and more a fan of the classics with every new release these automakers put out. I learned a long time ago that just because the numbers look good on paper doesn't mean it translates to a better driving experience.
If this engine is so much better than the V8 you would think they would have left the V8 as an option so people could decide for themselves.
I will also stick my 5.7 hemi ❤
Ha, pass, I'll stick with my Ecodiesel/
Although I'm currently driving an F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost, and I do enjoy it, I really like the Ram 1500. However with the Ford, the power, capability and fuel economy of the F150 boosted six is wildly impressive and it's the best I've ever driven. I say that because I'm happy to see Ram go this direction and taking advantage of this tech, and I think they have what it takes to be successful with it. This and the tweaked styling has only added more appeal imo.
Same here ... love my F150 3.5 all the way around. The Ram is nice looking and would be on my check list for a new truck. And enough of the soft looking comments ... the new Ram looks great.
I find it comical that those of you that are already driving a boosted 6 cylinder engine are saying that it's a great platform and a good direction to be going. Then there are the ones that haven't, like current hemi owners saying that it's a shit idea to go this route 😂
@@furion7040 there's gonna be fan boys in each camp! Gives each platform a fighting chance to exist, I like a good 8 myself. It's hard not to feel like the V8 is disappearing with this move, esp with Ram/Dodge really pushing the envelope over the last decade. But it's had a good run no question, and we may find ourselves all pinning for a V8 again in the not too distant future ha.
Same here; stick to the speed limit and the 3.5L will return much better mpg than it's rated. It takes some time to learn how to drive a turbo, I average 21 mpg in mixed driving, but at the same time if I need power it's there.
@@Steve-yr5vi you make a good point, there's totally a learning curve to the turbo and it can be really rewarding once you find the sweet spots for different driving tasks.
Have a friend who has a Wagoneer with the Hurricane 6. He's a district manager for a auto parts store and travels all over the Southeast and has 80k miles on it. No issues, and he loves the power and interior. As a mechanic of over 40 years i find the Penestar V6 a good and solid engine. I also believe RAM is developing a new hemi V8 that will be available in about 2 years. ???
I suspect we recently passed max full size pickup sales in the US. First and foremost, astronomical MSRP's coupled with dealer sales gimmicks have conspired to put the Ram out of reach for many prospects. Despite all these improvements, these new trucks are entering a shrinking market.
False lol… had to go to the other side of Canada to get my 24 Denali… sold out across Canada and continues to be sold out…. There’s definitely not a shortage of people who can afford them
@@handleymacdonald5760probably comes down to pricing in US vs Canada, i remember when the new gen civic came out it came out more expensive in the united states (even after doin the conversion of currencies) while having far fewer/cut features aswell in american models. Id assume this might be the case across the board? Pricing wise at least but idk
As a prev Limited owner with the Hemi I’m actually happy to see it gone. The Hemi was a bit weak and guzzled gas. Only thing it had going was the sound. I always preferred the Ford power trains because the turbo provides for good low end power and also were very quick. Also when it came to towing the Hemi really started to struggle. This looks like a really solid update, the interiors on the Rams have always been excellent.
400hp weak😂 you clearly know nothing
The Coyote is a much better choice. The current 5.0 will out pull and outrun the 5.7 Hemi all day long.@@moparjr89
@@moparjr89 it is weak when it’s moving around a 5400lb truck and also when compared to Fords power trains
Woah! That's pretty good. However, they dropped the V8. That's gonna hurt their sales figures badly. Then again, only time will tell. Toyota did the same thing, but I'm sure of their sales numbers. The Ram Charger is gonna be a big hit for the electric utilities. They've been waiting for something like this for a long time. EVs aren't there for rural electric utilities and the sales numbers will show. Great video guys! Looking forward to the Ram Charger video!
They're judging that reduced sales will be more than offset by not paying the gas guzzler fines.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Yeah, that's one way to look at it.
@@revgordon91 That's the way Carlos Tavares talks about it, so it could be argued it's the only way to look at it.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Yeah, true. I do remember hearing about that. I'm sure the TRX will have a hybrid like the Tundra,
Hopefully they found a way to make the hurricane live! They've had serious issues in the grand Cherokee and grand wagoneer. Seems the oil coolers and turbochargers are extremely prone to premature failures.
Yes you are right !!!
Barely a decade after the Ecoboost was introduced, when everyone was criticizing Ford and lamenting turbo engines, here we are with Stellantis and GM doing exactly what Ford did. I grew up a Mopar fanboy and a Ford hater, and here I am now seriously considering jumping ship to Ford...............
540hp?! That is insane!
although the exhaust sound will be terrible...
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl IDK man, straight 6 exhausts have sounded fairly decent. Definitely won't be as nice as a Hemi or the 6.2L V8 in the TRX
@@Tylnorton definitely better than V6s but not against V8s
@@HSstudio.YtchnnlToyota 2jz engine with exhaust?
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl there are plenty of stock and modded I6s that sound even better or as good as a v8
no, V8 is a deal breaker for me. GM is doing the right thing to invest in developing next gen V8s
Just makes it harder to put a bumper and winch on it.
I have had four 3.6L Pentastars in everything from a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Chrysler 300c, RAM 1500 WT, and a Chrysler Town and Country. All four vehicles have been excellent!
I have the SO Hurricane in my Wagoneer and it's great overall. Very quiet, smooth, powerful, etc. I have the Hemi version right now as a loaner with mine in for an oil change and some updates and even though the Hemi sounds amazing, it is noticably slower and less torquey.
What kind of fuel mileage are u getting in your wagoneer with S.O Hurricane motor? And also what is the towing rating?
I love the new camera views more engaging in great work guys
They didn't change the hood at all or even the fenders. They slightly tweaked the lower plastic fender trim to fit the slimmer head lights and that's it, not body work changes. The only thing they changed on the front is the grills, headlights and bumper.
Tbh I like this. For instance the new toyota tundra changed too much for the exterior and looks awful. Interior and power train is what auto manufactures should be focusing on more than anything.
The pentastar will never die
Its a great engine
No more hemi? Congrats guys, you just kill a legend. You will remember 4ever...
The 1987 Buick turbo 3.8L V-6 with bolt ons safely and reliably made 800+hp. Mine made over 500 with a fuel pump, injectors, adjustable pressure regulator, upgraded turbo, intercooler, downpipe, adjustable wastegate, ecm chip, catback with no cat, and home made alcohol injection from a washer fluid bottle, line and nozzle. Never upgraded the headers, throttle body, heads, springs, etc , which always added another 200hp. Blueprint, port + polish, and forged internals and they were running in the 7s with a few in the 6s 20 years ago. Such a setup can be factory tuned lean and fuel efficient with with the ability to tune it from 300hp to 800hp with little to no parts. On paper it would be an extremely low emissions vehicle but give the customer what they want at the same time, even more so if it was flex fuel capable. That’s the route I think they should go.
I love an inline six! Im excited for this! My Hemi was a great engine and love a V8 as well. But if they are leaving then the inline six should be awesome.
Two problems with that. For one this is Stellantis we're talking about here. The engine in the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer doesn't have a dipstick, so you literally can't check the oil physically unless you drain it. Even if you are willing to rely on the sensors, again we're talking about Stellantis here, you still can't check to see if there is cross contamination between the fluids or metal in the oil if a bearing is starting to let go. The other thing is while these can produce more power it's doing it with two less cylinders and high boost. Even if they build the engine with forced induction in mind you will probably still wear it out faster than the 5.7 or 3.6 if you load it out constantly. I'd feel more comfortable with a 4.8L I6 Hemi built off of the 6.4 platform and hardened like the Hellcat than the Hurricane since the engine has more displacement. It won't have to work as hard and you still get the Hemi reliability. It wouldn't be the first Chrysler inline 6 Hemi either since they've already made one I the Australian market and it was about as solid as the Slant Six.
@@DJ2226the thing about the dipstick missing,,, actually a lot of companies are actually going away with the dipstick and using sensors to check your oil, and yes I agree this is a terrible idea.
@@DJ2226 so a couple of things, the 3.0T is based off of the 2.0T that has been serving duty in the JL Wrangler since 2018. It doesn't have any known catastrophic issues and is pretty solid on performance. Where Stellantis was smart was to make the turbo system parallel as opposed to sequential like the V6s from Ford and Toyota. That means on demand boost, seamlessly and ab experience closer to a naturally aspirated engine in being linear with power delivery.
As a fan of the Hemi, I'm saddened by its demise, but at least Ram has answered with big power and increased technology.
The Ram version of the L6 has always been the Cummins B series. The only issues with the newer versions are the fact that they tried to make them quieter (now have issues that didn't happen with solid lifters/cams) and the emissions systems on diesels are terrible.
@@rich7447 The newer versions of the Cummims B Series Emgomes were required to meet the emission s set forth by the EPA, and this is the way they had to do it. Even Ford and GM had to do it as well! I am a true believer in the CUMMINS ENGINES, and have had them in Dodge/ Ram pickups since 1990!
They need to bring the Dakota back as a real mid size truck (not a 3 row suv with a bed) with the hurricane i6, offer the 8 speed auto and a 6 speed manual.
They are making a midsize truck won't have the i6 though
If they made a Dakota with the Hurricane and a manual I would immediately make a decision I would never financially recover from.
Love my dakota
@@cap10newport95agreed!!!!
3.6 Pentastar seems a bit overkill for what's basically a generator. If all they're doing is charging the battery I'm surprised they didn't use one of their inexpensive 4cyl options. Even still, I love the idea of the range extended version. No matter how they slice it, filling up with gasoline takes minutes and the infrastructure is already there to support it. And when you're running the vehicle around when at home you're going to be charging at your house. Really look forward to seeing the reviews when they come out. IMO, this is a great solution.
It takes electricity to run gas stations and to pump and pay for gas.
Electricity is everywhere. No grid upgrades are needed, especially as most electric vehicles can get charged at home late night when the grid has ample and excess capacity while most people are sleeping.
Gas station construction with in ground tanks is expensive.
Electric vehicle chargers are cheap in comparison.
@@dvader3263 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yeah, ok. You’re not saving the planet by going all electric.
@@Thomas-qk7wf
He wasn't claiming to.
I dont think the grid is anywhere near ready for 300 million vehicles, that will take decades, not to mention all the batteries. We are decades away from electric vehicles beating engines.
Wow. All Hemi’s will be collectors. Anything 2020 and up
Being a ram owner with a hemi engine I’m glad they made the big switch. I thought it suck that they would only offer a high output engine to the TRX truck. Here it is GMC and Chevy always have offer engines that had over 400 and something hp. But ram only stuck with in 1500 and Laramie 395 hp for decades.
I love that they made the durango comparison because thats that i was thinking
If we read the market right , the novelty of electic is waning fast globally , govt fumding has stopped for them , battery manufacturers are cutting production , price of electricity costs more than conventional feul fill ups , charging time , thermal runaway , instant deadly self conbustion . Manufacturers have a few models to entertain but they are still building conventional vehicles and ALL are ready to ditch ev phev and dhevs .
Electric cars powered by lithium-ion batteries are a nightmare! Personally, I can't understand how people decide to buy these cars and park them in their garage or near their house. It's a BOMB on wheels! If it catches fire, that's all - it can't be extinguished. You can drive an excavator, dig a hole, dump your train there, bury it, and it will burn in the ground for another 3 days. This is a terrible technology!
Well. It has finally came true. The final major part that made it American was the Hemi engine and now its gone. Now the only reliable part of the truck is the ZF 8speed transmission(not counting the Pentastar V6 models). 😢
The HEMI is not dead people will not like paying 93 octane for this engine
You never even tried the engine out yet
What kind of issues is the 3.0 having already?!😂
Fire transmission lines lines. I saw a video that dodge had a hyped version in a drag pak it sucked
Dropping the hemi and keeping pentastar is a true shame
Exactly.
At least Stellantis knows how to implement a large front grill into a pleasing visual vs Toyota’s cluster F on the Tundra
idk why but the front end looks like a mustang to me
The electric option is very interesting. A gas engine that is designed to run at a specific RPM can be made to be very efficient. I am not a tree huger, but this sounds good.
front end looks like a durango
Best looking Truck i have ever Seen , Design wise they did an Amazing Job, But Heartbroken No More Hemi V8 cry😢
Thank goodness someone came out with a straight 6 Turbo instead of a V6 Turbo. I have always loved the inline engines for boost as they are simple. I have no plans of trading my 6.7 Cummins but If i did this would probably be what I would go for if going with a turbo gas. The hemi, coyote and 6.2 are the best option if going NA.
I absolutely love the Pentastar. Good economy, simple, and decent power for what it is. I hope they never get rid of this option.
It looks weird without a front bumper.
It literally has a front bumper
@@greengabe5 Well, if it does, I damn sure don't see one. I much prefer a traditional bumper like most trucks still have.
I’m kinda excited for the range extended ram, I think that’s part of the reason why Chinese EVs are successful, many of them are range extended,but isn’t 3.6 v6 bit overkill for that purpose ? I think the 2.0 hurricane is more than enough
I think the Pentastar was the smarter choice. It's a smooth, reliable, proven workhorse that's very low maintenance (doesn't even have direct injection, so no need to worry about those expensive services). There are tons of them out there with 400k+ miles dutifully serving, I highly doubt we'll see these small turbocharged engines from any manufacturers matching them in terms of longevity and maintenance costs (and refinement).
@@omgcool7206 I see your point, I had a 2014 Jeep JK with the 3.6, zero issue, but I heard in very rare occasions it’s suffers cracking cylinder head meanwhile the 2.0 hurricane has no major issue except it being a direct injection,durability is questionable but in a hybrid vehicle with strong electric motor and battery the gas engine is rarely under stress so I think the durability issue will be mitigated , considering the Chrysler is pushing 540hp with the 3.0 hurricane, the 2.0 siblings should have decent durability too?
I did consider RAM for a bot during my purchase few months ago. I bought a chevy. I guess i will continue to do so since GM will continue the V8s
Huge Ram fan here, I’d like to see a factory dashcam option on these. It’s like the only thing missing other than a V8 Hemi. I’m gonna hold on to my 2023 Ram 1500 for another year or so before I buy another, let them sort out any problems with the new stuff on these trucks.
Keep in mind that the Ram 1500 is one of the most globally similar trucks made today. Folks who get them in Norway end up with a very similar truck as what is in my driveway in Indiana. Ram has to adapt to global concerns to stay efficient at their plant or they’d end up like Toyota and producing in too many countries and offering too many engine options
GM is able to do the same thing with the Silverado 1500 without sacrificing the V8. Infact here in N.Z the Silverado 1500 is only avaliable with the 6.2L.
Toyota is the #1 automaker in the world. Again
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Would love to see you guys get into the weeds regarding the 6.8 vs 7.3. Such as: gas mileage difference when empty, mildly loaded, and fully loaded. And towing differences. And what the driving experience is like: I test drove a 7.3 F-350 SRW and couldn't believe how often the traction control and transmission torque management seemed to be kicking in, to take over the throttle. That's something that was really obvious, but you guys never mentioned it, and it really feels wierd.
I’ve been test driving these all year. That TRX with the hurricane will surprise you even though it doesn’t have the v8 sound.
Good video. I'm a little surprised they didn't keep the 5.7 around or come out with a new V8 but that's the way the world is now. I don't really care for the new design the Ram trucks are starting to look more like an SUV than a truck. But I'll wait to see it in person sometimes they look better in person. Also the CEO recently said that they're going to shelve the TRX name for now.
They might be working on a new all aluminum Hemi with direct injection and boost, but that adds complexity as well as cost, and it will be heavier than an i6. I guess that new V8 only will be available in TRX/Hellcat configurations.
Damn near Godzilla numbers for HP and torque with the standard hurricane
Impressive, but it won’t last as long as a 7.3 pushrod v8.
And Ford still offers the V8 in the F-150s still unlike with Ram to bad so sad Ford still has the V8
Don’t give 2 sh*ts about the sound. If people want to sound like a bunch of whiney simps trying to look cool lamenting about the sound, buy GM, get one of the millions new Hemis sitting (languishing???) on the lots currently. In the meantime I will enjoy the power the new SST is going to produce that will far outperform the Hemi,,,, 😂😂😂. My dad used to always say “sh*t or get off the pot! Just make up your mind!” He would be applauding them for finally making a change necessary to compete with the current newer motors out there. The 5.7 wasn’t doing it anymore. Ford’s 5.0 sales are falling and it’s very likely to disappear as well.
80+% of torque around 2,000 rpm is very useful and invigorating,,,,, turbo is the way to go efficiently right now.
It looks like a 2014 F150 got drunk and hooked up with a 2000 Silverado 1500 and this Ram is their love child or visa-versa.
They were headed in the right direction back in 2019 and now in 2025- Left turn into the ditch. I have no issue with 6 cyl trucks (I own a 3.5 Ecoboost) but at every point I wished it was a V8. If they made a V8 turbo, It would DOMINATE the class.
As far as "EV" is concerned, absolutely in the right direction. Full EV might be the future but its FAR in the future. Hybrid EV's are the near future. Good on Ram for realizing this.
Glad I got my ‘22 5.7 hemi backcountry. Freakin great truck all around !!
540hp is insane
I will be interested to see if they offer a 2 door - especially a 6.5 box 2 door.
AFAIK, the DS Classic is finally done, and the HD is moving to the DT cab. So yes, regular cab is coming, but I would bet ZERO dollars on a short box.
Me too! I know they laughed about it. I love the r/t ram. They got rid or the sport. It would be awesome if they had it with the newer style cab.
The ONLY thing cool about a ram 1500 was the HEMI.... bye dodge... 🤣😂🤣
I had an I-6 in a trailblazer. Zero issues sold it original transmission and engine 238k miles. (I plan to skip turbos and go from my 2011 v8 to electric.)
Okay, everyone! If you gtew up in tge 70's, *_"SST"_* actually means something to you. A double meaning, actually.
There were SST toy cars, which were powered by a wheel and s rip cord; and they were amazing, for the time.
Then there were the Supersonic Transport vehicles, such as tge Concorde, tge Tupolev Tu-144.
So, RAM seems to be capitalizing on the acronym. I like it!
I would NEVER buy a Chrysler with a new engine design. They need 3-5 years to figure itself out. These are going to be lemons.
You're spot on man. Hell I wouldn't touch anything new from any company these days. They're all hot garbage, not to mention dealer markups and depreciation with FCA.
The engine is literally 2.0T Hurricane with an extra 2 cylinders added on to it. The 2.0T has been on JL Wranglers since 2018.
I hate so many vehicles are getting soyfaces now
Looks great. I think the 24 Ford is a bit better though.
I looked at the 24 F150 and in my opinion they cheapened that truck out considerably but placed a higher price tag on it.
@@onthethrottle7104 in what ways? I think they’re all over priced
Single Cab Hemis are about to Sky Rocket 🚀
Most people who have seen my channel know that i am a huge fan of the Hemi engine family. However, i have driven the new Hurricane HO engine in the grand wagoneer (i have a review video of this, including how it sounds.) And i personally have torn down a Hurricane engine. My thoughts are that while it won't check the boxes for those who are die hard V8 fans, i still believe it's going to be a very good engine that makes great power. It's strong where it needs to be strong and seems well made. I'm less excited about the standard output model however.
You heard it here first, the "DuRAMgo" is coming. Finally. What about MPG for the new engines? So glad they went with an I-6 as that is the ideal configuration for 6 cylinders.