I watched Angel in french growing up, and the last line in this video was "what? Only idiots don't change their minds" Instead of "I was cool before I met you guys" and honestly idk which one is better hahahah
Detail usually missed is that Charles demonstrated more than a few times since his introduction that he had a head and potential as a lawyer long before season 5
Yeah, I love that too. Especially because I have friends like that. You know they really care about stuff, rather than just being inadvertently pretentious about something that was originally rammed down their throats. If Gunn likes something nice, cultured, whatchamaycallit - it's because he decided for himself it was worth appreciating. And I admire that. And Spike was actually very similar in that way: hard to choose between those two!
Yes charles deserved better but he was still one of the best written characters and not a trope. He had his own fleshed out stories too. Unlike some shows (cough tvd).
Gunn is great brother to his sister as he do whatever takes to keep her safe. Honoring her. He's true leader of his Robin Hood crew before he met Angel. He's good friend to Angel and his friends. I understand he's trying to be more smarter at season 5. He's already smart because he knows vampire's weakness and any supernatural evil creature's weakness. He's tough as he's survive on street with his sister while they're were little kids. He's brawn of Angel's crew.
The writers really did Gunn and for that matter Wesley a disservice. They completely neutered Gunn's character in order to exalt Wesley into this 'bad ass' when Wesley had already been a bad ass by the end of season 2. Gunn grew up on the streets and decided to slay vamps since he was a kid. He met Angel, left everything behind in order to serve a higher mission, and all they had for him was turning him into a W&H lawyer and him being the cause of Fred's death smh.
I'd actually have loved to see those two together! A man who can't stand vampires and the vampire he couldn't stay away from, it could have been great!
I actually loved him with Fred I just hated how they ended their relationship and then made him the reason Fred died that was so stupid. Although I agree with you the love triangle and the killing professor for her storylines definitely ruined his character a little Fred too it would’ve been better if she had killed the professor herself or at least let it go. Then they would’ve broken up naturally because she changed and then they could’ve set up the whole Wesley/Fred storyline instead of ruining the friendship between all three of them. But I get it the show must have drama.
Just like Xander Gunn was more useful than Xander was on the team. Gunn wasn't too smart either but at least he could fight. I always found it interesting he was able to defeat all those vampires I. The final episode. Wish he could have came onto van helsing and kick Sam butt.
I decided to watch Buffy and Angel again over last Christmas. When you binge watch them Buffy still holds up, but with Angel you begin to notice the flaws in the character writing, specifically that of Gunn. I loved Angel as a show when it aired, but watching it back now, I couldn't believe how hard i fought for it not to be cancelled.
'This is tutus, with guys, and their big ass packages jumping up and down!' 😂 Loved Charles in the earlier seasons-until the storyline with Fred. They just didn't have the chemistry.
I love how they have a chart for Angel's exes.
I think it's a chart of "People from Angel's past who might show up and cause us problems" - probably explain how Gunn knew about Spike as well.
i think i know you from a buffy server on discord- sorry that was really unrelated- but yea-
@@gayandbored5738 you talking about the buffyverse discord? I am on there.
@@kamui003 yea
@@gayandbored5738 that is me you're thinking of then. I have the same name and pfp on discord.
"She's a vampire" don't we kill em anymore! lol gunn was the man 😂
Most underrated character in the whole buffyverse i swear 😍
he deserved better from the writers ... thank you for making this !!
I was just about to write the same thing
So many of them deserved so much better, but especially Cordy and Gunn.
he's so underappreciated 🥺
Him being a dark web online vampire hunter in the new Angel comics is a cool new origin story.
I watched Angel in french growing up, and the last line in this video was "what? Only idiots don't change their minds" Instead of "I was cool before I met you guys" and honestly idk which one is better hahahah
Detail usually missed is that Charles demonstrated more than a few times since his introduction that he had a head and potential as a lawyer long before season 5
He did. He was my favourite character in Angel until Spike showed up again!
He was the most levelheaded out of the entire Angel crew and showed a lot of common sense.
Almost forgot how cool Gunn was.
I didn't
I love the little detail of how cultured Charles really is, despite growing up on the streets.
Yeah, I love that too. Especially because I have friends like that. You know they really care about stuff, rather than just being inadvertently pretentious about something that was originally rammed down their throats. If Gunn likes something nice, cultured, whatchamaycallit - it's because he decided for himself it was worth appreciating. And I admire that. And Spike was actually very similar in that way: hard to choose between those two!
he's literally the best woah
Yes charles deserved better but he was still one of the best written characters and not a trope. He had his own fleshed out stories too. Unlike some shows (cough tvd).
1:49 his face changing in this scene i lose it everytime
"Aaaagghoww did you just step on foot!" My favorite Gunn line 😂
mine too!!!
4:56 is a great description of Angel season 4
Season 4 is no where near as bad as people say it is.
@@TheJayden3977 still is a turgid supernatural soap opera tho
Totally agree !
@@TheJayden3977you're right, it's worse, even the ratings were the lowest out of every Buffy and Angel season.
I don't know how anyone could look at him and not have him be their favourite. I love Gunn so bloody much.
Ditto!
Gunn is great brother to his sister as he do whatever takes to keep her safe. Honoring her. He's true leader of his Robin Hood crew before he met Angel. He's good friend to Angel and his friends. I understand he's trying to be more smarter at season 5. He's already smart because he knows vampire's weakness and any supernatural evil creature's weakness. He's tough as he's survive on street with his sister while they're were little kids. He's brawn of Angel's crew.
i can see why fred fell for him
But she broke up with him and went to Wesley
So underused and underappreciated, but I loved him.
I do love him :)
The writers really did Gunn and for that matter Wesley a disservice. They completely neutered Gunn's character in order to exalt Wesley into this 'bad ass' when Wesley had already been a bad ass by the end of season 2. Gunn grew up on the streets and decided to slay vamps since he was a kid. He met Angel, left everything behind in order to serve a higher mission, and all they had for him was turning him into a W&H lawyer and him being the cause of Fred's death smh.
Ugh I love him so much 🥺. I would love to see one of these compilations of Cordelia she was always my favorite
I'd love to see a video of all her best moments from buffy and angel combined, I think that would be awesome to see!
gunn is a proud faith lover and an even prouder connor hater. he’s just like me fr
Gunn’s awesome.
“guys with their big ass packages” CHARLES WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY THINK OF THAT??? BISEXUAL GUNN I SEE YOU
I needed "The trust is gone" at 1:20 to be immediately followed with having the time of his life at the ballet. Gunn was great lol
an all time favourite buffyverse character of mine, what an underrated himbo legend
YESSS I LOVE HIMMMMMMMM
Gunn keeps a chart of Angel's ex-girlfriends. lol.
Hell of a wingman
Gunn one of my favorite characters in the buffyverse
You take the 30k on the left
Gunn and Harmony could've been something...
I'd actually have loved to see those two together! A man who can't stand vampires and the vampire he couldn't stay away from, it could have been great!
gunn, my beloved
I like the character of Gunn, although i think his love story with Fred (i love Fred) ruined him a lot.
I actually loved him with Fred I just hated how they ended their relationship and then made him the reason Fred died that was so stupid. Although I agree with you the love triangle and the killing professor for her storylines definitely ruined his character a little Fred too it would’ve been better if she had killed the professor herself or at least let it go. Then they would’ve broken up naturally because she changed and then they could’ve set up the whole Wesley/Fred storyline instead of ruining the friendship between all three of them. But I get it the show must have drama.
I loved him with Fred but she was better with Wesley
8 min and 4 sec of laughs😂 and love🥺 for this wonderful character...
Thanks❤
hands down this is my favorite youtube channel
“I wanna be the vampire” “I wanna be in a hot tub :(“
I kind of thought "non-evil Forest"
💯
Just like Xander Gunn was more useful than Xander was on the team. Gunn wasn't too smart either but at least he could fight. I always found it interesting he was able to defeat all those vampires I. The final episode. Wish he could have came onto van helsing and kick Sam butt.
I decided to watch Buffy and Angel again over last Christmas. When you binge watch them Buffy still holds up, but with Angel you begin to notice the flaws in the character writing, specifically that of Gunn. I loved Angel as a show when it aired, but watching it back now, I couldn't believe how hard i fought for it not to be cancelled.
Gngngngb
No.
'This is tutus, with guys, and their big ass packages jumping up and down!' 😂
Loved Charles in the earlier seasons-until the storyline with Fred. They just didn't have the chemistry.
Gunn and Fred had more natural chemistry than Wes and Fred which felt forced.
Loved his character didn’t like him hooking up with Fred
Uhhh why?
@@swagsukeuchiha7599 It just felt off.
@@Howyaduing ......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@@Howyaduing They both were sacrificed for Wesley and Lilah's sake... made the latter two more interesting though.
@@swagsukeuchiha7599 he was great with the electric girl