King Hss and his Snake were always a curious mystery to me as kid, as I had to come up with my own backstory as a kid of him usurping power back from snake mountain. Lucky the 2002 Heman series came out and confirmed I was on the right track!!! I so love the lore further explored!
@@ehenyorFor some reason, I'm picturing Scott doing the Pitch Meeting, MotU, but cramming in WAY too many "___ is tight!" than RG does. I find that really funny. I dunno.
I would have killed for a Lady Slither figure! It would have been awesome. I get so excited at the thought of expanding the line and mythos. The mini comics were amazing
I always wished Cobra teamed up with King Hss! Wouldn't it be cool if Globulous( and Cobra-la citezens) were a further sect of Snakemen whose Cobra symbol were based off Serpos, the Snake God?
The Snakemen were a favorite faction of my older brother and I ever since the vintage line. In fact, it was the only faction where we had mostly doubles of from the MOTUC series. We even gotten doubles of them from the 200x line, though that may not have been intentional due to us needing to other them by the case either from BBTS or Mattel - I don't recall.
As a kid, I truly enjoyed fighting bad guys against each other more than good guys VS bad guys. I don't know exactly why, maybe because when they are all bad, there are no limits!
Absolutely loved the Snake Men as a kid especially that great mini comic the first 3 came with...great story great art..one of the best mini comics of the line. Ever notice the similarty to Zartan from GI Joe both have a snake allegiance both are masters of disguise both have a kind of Robin from Batman eye mask both...
Next to the Horde, they are the coolest faction. On another note, if people take the time to look at them, snakes are some of the most beautiful and unique creatures on the planet. They are cool asf.
I want to agree, but I saw a king Cobra, in a glass enclosure, raise up, and look me in the eye. I was mid-40s, and six feet tall. Garter snakes are cool.
The Snake Men were always MY faction, Rattlor my favorite original figure. Serpentine King Hiss is my favorite classics figure. A lot of people bitch about that one, but as far as a toy and a representation of an established character, it could not be more amazing. I treasure it.
I was never a fan of The Unammed One creating the Snake Men. I like King Hiss being the boss. I do like Gorpo as an antagonist, as well as Lady Slither and her castle. Great video as always Scott.
@@spectorcreative1872 I enjoy all of your videos Scott. I'm very grateful for your contribution to MOTU. Although I didn't collect Classics, mostly because I was late to the party and live in the UK💲😭, I watched every Pixel Dan review video on them and loved the bios and new characters. It's really cool you're so accessable to the fans!
Great Video :) I always like your story telling and how things came to be and origins in Masters of the universe. And would have been great to see Lady Slyther in animation in 2002 cartoon :)
I wonder if they had made her in Classics (or if they ever both come out in Origins 🤞) could you attach King Hiss' top to her tail and make a 100% snake monster? ooooh🤓 then swap in Squeeze's arms and Snake-Face's head 😆😁😆😃😄 Mattel, the race is on: either you manufacturer this or I will be forced to 3D print it 😄
I was 4 when the toys first came out so I was the right age to be there for whole length of the line. The Snake men were some of my favourite ones especially Squeeze and snake face.
200x King Hiss I remember the first time I saw this character it was amazing and terrifying. When he defeated the Sorceress I honestly was in shock. I do love my 200x Classics King Hiss a magnificent figure.
The snake men are some of my favorite MOTU figs! Some of the concept characters shown in the video would have been awesome if they'd made it to production.
I was at the tail end of my childhood toys days when the Snake Men came out and I definitely thought they were cool.. but middle school, boys, and more "adult fare" was calling my name at that point. This was when all the MOTU stuff got handed down to my brother and he rode it out until the Turtles took over.
@@spectorcreative1872 Ed: This was quite an coincidence. I just went for a stroll to look for some SW-figs at different second hand stores... Long story short: I ended up at a street flea market, spotted a Toxic crusaders fig, and *King Hiss* him self 😄 I got both of the for ~2USD. Shore, poor Hiss had lost one of his arms, and his human disguise was gone, but you want to display him in his true form any way. And regarding the arm..? Well, lets just say that He Man cut it of (or maby Skeletor did it) 😄
Very interesting, I never really thought of the Snake Men back in the 80s, but I admit that they never got their potential realized. Their appearance in the early 2000s was astounding to me, and I loved how things could have tied together (and wish they had). I am reminded of a question I had though. How does She-Ra's sword with its transforming power match up with He-Man's sword?
Love the Snake Men because of the King of the Snake Men mini-comic. I always wished we could have gotten every Snake Man that appeared in that mini-comic as a figure in MOTUC.
Love the Snake Men. Great designs, great figures, and great fun! I especially like all the real-world inspirations of their designs, including the eyelash viper for one of the swappable Snake Men Warrior heads. It always puzzles me when people say "Sssqueeze doesn't look like a snake!" They should look at emerald tree boas, the inspiration for the character -- an atypically big, long snout full of teeth, just like Sssqueeze. Or even more hilarious, when they call Tung Lashor a frog, because they argue that his feet and hands "don't look snakey enough." Yes, they actually argue about how snake limbs should look. Snake limbs. Snake. Limbs. Let that sink in. If they wanted realistic snake limbs, that'd be limited to two tiny, one-clawed spurs on the hips of just the constrictor-themed characters. 🤣
@@TitularHeroine We have slow-worms in our neck of the woods, similarly legless lizards. I used to have a pet skink, who looked like a snake with teeny little legs. He was called Ssslink.
Really love when the topic is about history of motu,.i really love the snakemen faction yes they are colorfull and full of gimmiks on vintage toys maybe thats why.,i have read once that thses guys overthrow the rulers of eternia when they arrived and those were the race of webstor the spider like humanoids,dont know if they drove them to their extinction thats why webstor is the only one left.,then they rule preternia for a millennia
Hey Spector I've got a question/video idea. You spoke before how the license for He-Man reverts to Universal in 2023. If you were managing the license for Universal and could decide who got what license to create product, who would you choose and why? Would you let Mattel keep it? Mattel keep part of it and license out to other manufacturers? Would you try to separate the kids line and the collector lines by manufacturer or have them all in 1 house? Domestic or International? Etc. I think it would be a fun, speculative video to see.
I didnt really watch the 200x show regularly....just several episodes at the time..but this video sure explains who the Snake Men are. I didnt really know their past or backstory. As a kid in the 80s they came out late as you mentioned and i dont remember any kid having them.
@@spectorcreative1872 ..whats funny i bought all 3 seasons and been too lazy to watch it. Guess im gonna start now...the Revelations show dissapointed me. Then he man flashbacks teela has is too much and ruins it for me.
I remember those 200X Snake Men figures. They were the variants my brother and I had and we integrated them with our Classics. Some of them (like Rattlor) were awesome, but Snake Crush Skeletor sucked. My friend growing up had an older brother who had the original Snake Men, as they were the only figures available when he was a kid. I remember him showing me his Rattlor and Tongue Lashor and figuring out they hand gimmicks by mistake. They were cool figures.
Wait, wait wait... you mean to tell me that Orko... precious little Orko... just... did a *genocide* based on a torture that was implemented by Thanos?!
@@spectorcreative1872 your knowledge of the Masters of the universe brand is unrivaled by anyone working in Hollywood You're the only one I can trust to get This property told the right way. 100% Facts
Scott. Was it ever explained/ did you explain why they all have the same staff as Hssss? All except for Squeeeeeze of course? And if Hsssss' shield is the Shield of Ka and Teela had the Staff of Ka, what is the significance/provenance of the generic snake staff?
@@oansun I just had a look and it doesn't explain the 4 generically named Snake Staffs which is what I was curious about. I only really mentioned Teela in reference to the Ka Staff and Shield. There is no entry for the Snake Staff in the Compendium that I could see.
@@MrHemanclix he does. As well as the same staff in a different colour. They all do except Squeeze who had a differently design of staff. Always been curious as to why.
I remember the original 3 ( Hiss, Rattlor, and Tongue Lashor) in 86. I never got the others that came out in 87 because I never saw them. Wasn't Squeeze originally named Tanglor?
I was 5 -6around the time of 200x and I absolutely loved the snake men season king hiss was so badass he could beet skeletor with little effort not to mention snake armour heman being a absolutely amazing outfit change it just all worked really well for me only problem I couldn’t find a lot of the toys I think I had 6-7 in total never ever found king hiss tho😭
Spector creative is also the creator of my fav action figure 2 pack I own snake armour heman and king hiss classics 2 pack it’s the only one I HAD To open it was too badass😍😍
@@spectorcreative1872 But also hinted in the 90's comicbooks. Hsss say something like "Even if Khan is not a true Snakeman, he sure acts like one. And I think he would side with me if the moment showed itself...."
Another great video sir- so thank you very much! I really liked the old Snake Men (comics/ toys) & loved how 200x expanded on it. An then the gates were blown open- so awesome! Were there any Snake Men that didn't make the cut?
Hi Scott! Thank you very much for the video, it has been very illustrative and complete. I am a big fan and a student of the continuity that you created in the Classics line, always well explained in the bios. I like how you unified the most outstanding elements of the different media. After the information desert that was the 90's, and the abrupt end of the 200X toy line and its TV series, something like that was necessary. But after watching this video I have a question. In it you clearly mention that three races were used to create the DNA of the Snake Men (the Lizar People from Eternia... the Caligars from Eternia, like Whipash... and the race of Lyzzor, from the NA), while in the Classics bios are mentioned two races (the Lizard People from Eternia, again... the Klybians from Draphos, like Saurod) and we never knew which race was the third. Please could you clarify this matter? What do we take for valid? I am translating the Classics bios in Spanish language for the Spaniard and Hispanic American fandom, respecting the beautiful and academic way in which all the descriptive texts of the vintage figures were translated, very similar to the antique medieval Spanish lenguage. This information can be very helpful. Thank you very much for your attention, Scott! :)
Great video. Any idea if there were any plans in the 1980's to release more "snap-on armor" to King Hiss? Even as a kid I though that was a given to give King Hiss the ability to disguise differently. It could have been sold like the Weapon pak, but with three-four different snap on armors/parts
Loved the old mini comic introducing the Snakemen. The Snakemen appeal to kids judging by my two boys. Got MOTUC Serpent King Hsssss delivered yesterday. Want to surprise my kids by changing the head on King Hsssss to the half transformed head to see when they notice. Then put the big snake body up.
I always thought it'd be cool if the snake man had holographic chest plates a similar to the visionaries then you can show some pretty cool differences between the characters
In you're research at Mattel, were you able to find the original plans as to who the Unnamed One was going to be, back in the day? Surely it must have been a time-displaced Keldor..?
Quick question if you please the extra snake man and snake women when you look up snake-men online it shows that supposed to be cannon from the He-Man Masters of the x-series you know the good one besides original lol could you do a video on them sometime if you have time preciate it and thank you
Heya, sir (And anyone who's tried it and would know). With 200x being 6" scale, do their accessories work with vintage at all? (I'm guessing not armor because they look to have a more slender build). Thank you! This was a pretty great episode. Who wouldn't love snake men?!
L ove The SNAKE Men! They're my favorite baddies. Can you add some more flavor as to the origins of the concept overall in the beginning, ie was the trope of an ancient Alien / Reptile race being locked in another dimension and freed it derived from LoveCraft's the Nameless City? Is there any information on the development of that part of the story line?
@@spectorcreative1872 @Jason The overused trope of reptile - especially *_anthropomorphic_* reptile - races/species/characters in being evil in media is getting really, *_really, REALLY_* emotionally tiring there - at least for me - which is why I *_*LOVE*_* the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Extreme Dinosaurs animated T.V. show and toy product line franchises so much there: the main protagonists are *_anthropomorphic_*_ _*_*reptiles*_* - anthropomorphic turtles and dinosaurs, respectively, there!!! "Can't anthropomorphic reptiles be 'good guys' *_FOR ONCE_* in media???!" is what I often think of there when it seems like anthropomorphic reptile characters are always relegated to the villains/'bad guys' side in media.
He wasn't, in some of the comics. In the mini-comics, though, he was released at the same time as Snake Face and Sssqueeze, so he got lumped in with them.
When I was a kid I had ratlor Kobra Kahn and king hiss. I wanted the other snake men. But not long after that time I started collecting other action figures and stopped playing with He-Man figures.
yes! my Son and I have been talking about that. she's the only Classics figure I ever bought, and I bought her specifically for my Son off of BBTS recently. I never could have one when I was a kid, there was no figure of her back then, and her being too tall shouldn't be a problem, cuz she's king of a monster, right? so we're wondering, museing with each other: where are her legs and feet? does she even have any? is she like Orco? no face, just eyes peering out from under a hood. scary 😱 lol how is it that Orco isn't terrifying? ☺️🧙♂️
I always thought Tongue Lasher was a frog-man. More of an amphibian than a reptile. And his "special power" should've been a hallucinogenic poison that secretes from his skin. Just like any brightly colored frog would. Maybe that would be a whole new character... "Trip-or" ! accessories: disco ball and glowsticks.
Tung lashor was a favorite of mine, I always knew he was a snake due to the Snake symbol emblazoned on his chest. I did think his hands and legs were froglike though.
Hey Spector what categories do you UL this under also how do you avoid having comments disabled for the COPPA BS? I am a big Ray Harryhausen Stop Motion fan Clash of The Titans being one of my favorites along with his Sinbad movies and Jason and Argonauts. I thought Lady Slither or so was based on ADnD like the Marilith or Lillend or Lamia Noble as she is really pretty like the remake of Clash though I kinda prefer Wraith of The Titans for the newer ones. I don't own any of the snakes it goes back to Set or just cold blooded reptiles you can't read their emotions or reactions. They should have made a cooler leader then an Orko knockoff who is hardly menacing or as cool as that one Female who I think was one or sorta resembles em. I got some Simpsons Series 4 then 11 I have Larry Burns the Rodney Dangerfield. I never seen them talk so if were able to do a video on that ever showing how inter active environments work to make them say things or talk I'd really enjoy seeing it.
@@spectorcreative1872 Thanks maybe it was a fluke as YT has been acting really weird lately. I keep getting emails before something is even uploaded saying they put it in 18+ but the time I got don't add up or the hours ago its really odd. I think they see my staff in the scan thinking its a rod or something it started about 2 weeks ago. Then when trimmed this Super Gogeta it was disabled comments unless I did that when set for Allow all by mistake. I got nerve damage so I jump around or spasm so its possible I double clicked or move the roller just strange heh. Its not like you can talk to anybody on here or ever get an answer so hehe :). I don't add in anything that appeals to them just showing a thing in a box is about as boring as it gets right ;).
At the time the Snake Men action figures were released in 1986, I wondered what had happened to Kobra Khan. I've always wondered what connection Kobra Khan had to the Snake Men.
If I was to make an educated guess, I assume Thoth Amon to be the template for King Hsss. As much as Thulsa Doom had been for Skeletor. It might be necessary to mention, that the character James Earl Jones was portraying in Conan the Barbarian had actually been misnamed. He actually embodied Thoth Amon, a wizard, which runs a snake cult, and with a knack of turning into snakes. The true Thulsa Doom, as shown in the comics based on Robert E. Howard’s creation actually is an undead (lich) wizard with a skeleton head…mmh, wizard with skeleton head…
@@spectorcreative1872 If you refer to your video of how and why the Snakemen were created, I had already watched that. Still you can not deny the striking resemblances to the comics of Robert E. Howard. May it be He-Man/Oo-Larr (Conan), Teela (Red Sonja), Skeletor (Thulsa Doom), and King Hsss (Thoth Amon). www.pinterest.com/pin/827536500258434402/ twitter.com/i/events/893188683184164866
I remember as a kid being super excited when the 200X snakemen started coming out and was bummed when they had a more animated, stylized, less 'Horsemen' look. Do you have any insight as to why that happened? Edit: oh and I also wanted to say, from the moment the Unnamed One was revealed I loved him and his story. Just to finally see a Trollan living up to his magical potential was awesome!
5:12 The tail end of a line is TIGHT! 9:28 The Unnamed One's name is not Grogu? 10:48 "Was!" I mean "was"! Grogu in a *blender?!* Seriously though. Was Dri-Elle one of the Trollan Overlords?
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King Hss and his Snake were always a curious mystery to me as kid, as I had to come up with my own backstory as a kid of him usurping power back from snake mountain. Lucky the 2002 Heman series came out and confirmed I was on the right track!!! I so love the lore further explored!
Glad you enjoyed! Please feel free to share around with others, it helps the channel a ton!
I also didnt know the back story of snake men
This is the most educational content on RUclips. Thank you for these amazing videos.
Well what a kind thing to say!
The 3 evil powers of Eternia: Skeletor, King Hss and Hordak! How I love this Lore!!!
Lore is tight
Lore is tight
@@spectorcreative1872 you need to get a screen pitch made. ;)
@@ehenyorFor some reason, I'm picturing Scott doing the Pitch Meeting, MotU, but cramming in WAY too many "___ is tight!" than RG does.
I find that really funny. I dunno.
@@TitularHeroine He can do it! It's super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
Scott, I love your videos. I decree that you are not allowed to ever stop making them.
We must not forget that the Snake Men also gave us the greatest line evee spoken in a TV commercial: "Tongue Lashor, whose evil tongue lashes..."
True that
It may be possible that King Hiss character took inspiration from the villain of Conan the Barbarian, Thulsa Doom (Mr. James Earl Jones).
Jamessss Earl Jonessssss🐍
Without a doubt!
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Another influence might have been the Serpent Men from the Hyperboran/Lovecraft mythos, which started with Robert E Howard's King Kull.
Thulsa Doom is from kull before conan the barbarian
I would have killed for a Lady Slither figure! It would have been awesome. I get so excited at the thought of expanding the line and mythos. The mini comics were amazing
Thanks, was made with so much love
I always wished Cobra teamed up with King Hss! Wouldn't it be cool if Globulous( and Cobra-la citezens) were a further sect of Snakemen whose Cobra symbol were based off Serpos, the Snake God?
I can see that
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The Snakemen were a favorite faction of my older brother and I ever since the vintage line. In fact, it was the only faction where we had mostly doubles of from the MOTUC series. We even gotten doubles of them from the 200x line, though that may not have been intentional due to us needing to other them by the case either from BBTS or Mattel - I don't recall.
Toy memories are the best
loved the snake men,especially in the 2000 series. and that classic artwork brings back memories! :)
Oh boy do they!
As a kid, I truly enjoyed fighting bad guys against each other more than good guys VS bad guys. I don't know exactly why, maybe because when they are all bad, there are no limits!
I am glad the 200x series made them an important part of the story and some well deserved coverage
Me too!!
Absolutely loved the Snake Men as a kid especially that great mini comic the first 3 came with...great story great art..one of the best mini comics of the line. Ever notice the similarty to Zartan from GI Joe both have a snake allegiance both are masters of disguise both have a kind of Robin from Batman eye mask both...
7:00 that snake trooper looks cool, Like the horde trooper, just more intemidating.
they were sold in classics
Indeed
Next to the Horde, they are the coolest faction. On another note, if people take the time to look at them, snakes are some of the most beautiful and unique creatures on the planet. They are cool asf.
I want to agree, but I saw a king Cobra, in a glass enclosure, raise up, and look me in the eye. I was mid-40s, and six feet tall. Garter snakes are cool.
True be that
@@vernonsanders9696 Are you sure that wasn't Cobra Commander after Serpentor had him turned into a real snake :-)
Love snakes. Fascinating creatures.
The Snake Men were always MY faction, Rattlor my favorite original figure. Serpentine King Hiss is my favorite classics figure. A lot of people bitch about that one, but as far as a toy and a representation of an established character, it could not be more amazing. I treasure it.
That is awesome
Love the design on 2003 King Hiss. His human looking face reminds me of of Bill Nighly from UNDERWORLD, with a dash of Egyptian design look.
The Egypt did it for me!
I was never a fan of The Unammed One creating the Snake Men. I like King Hiss being the boss. I do like Gorpo as an antagonist, as well as Lady Slither and her castle. Great video as always Scott.
I appreciate you still enjoyed the video and took time to comment!
@@spectorcreative1872 I enjoy all of your videos Scott. I'm very grateful for your contribution to MOTU. Although I didn't collect Classics, mostly because I was late to the party and live in the UK💲😭, I watched every Pixel Dan review video on them and loved the bios and new characters. It's really cool you're so accessable to the fans!
This was awesome! Loved the Snake Men as a kid.
Many do!!
I love the battle of the snake-men storyline in the reboot of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe 2002!
One of the best parts of an already great show
Great Video :) I always like your story telling and how things came to be and origins in Masters of the universe. And would have been great to see Lady Slyther in animation in 2002 cartoon :)
If only she could have been included!
@@spectorcreative1872 That would have been really great :) And am anticipating your next video and wishing you a great weekend :)
The snakemen faction is the best faction in motu, with vibrant colours and amazing sculptures, specially motu classics and neca stactions!
They have many fans!
Looking forward to watching this later.
Glad to hear it!
Is it later yet?
@@ehenyor it will forever be later.
I hope they make lady Slithers castle for origins
I wonder if they had made her in Classics (or if they ever both come out in Origins 🤞) could you attach King Hiss' top to her tail and make a 100% snake monster?
ooooh🤓 then swap in Squeeze's arms and Snake-Face's head 😆😁😆😃😄
Mattel, the race is on: either you manufacturer this or I will be forced to 3D print it 😄
Me too
I was 4 when the toys first came out so I was the right age to be there for whole length of the line. The Snake men were some of my favourite ones especially Squeeze and snake face.
Mine too
every barbarian hero needs a snake based villian
👍👍👍voiced by James Earl Jones 🐍
Clearly. and clearly
@@MrHemanclix that goes without saiyng ^^
200x King Hiss I remember the first time I saw this character it was amazing and terrifying. When he defeated the Sorceress I honestly was in shock. I do love my 200x Classics King Hiss a magnificent figure.
Snakes are pretty fan scary
@@spectorcreative1872 Yeah, perhaps... but snakes don't scare me! (I'm referring to *_real-life_* ones, here.) 🐍
The snake men are some of my favorite MOTU figs! Some of the concept characters shown in the video would have been awesome if they'd made it to production.
You are not alone in that
I was at the tail end of my childhood toys days when the Snake Men came out and I definitely thought they were cool.. but middle school, boys, and more "adult fare" was calling my name at that point. This was when all the MOTU stuff got handed down to my brother and he rode it out until the Turtles took over.
Many of us were
All time favorite movie: Clash of the Titans
Another great video! Thanks Scott
Glad to inform and entertain
thank you so much. This was an awesome video. Love the snake men. thank you for history.
So glad you enjoyed!!
Its so cool to see these background stories, and hear about the marketing plans.
I also loved the plans and sketsches including the PMS-coloring =)
So glad you enjoyed so much!
@@spectorcreative1872
Ed:
This was quite an coincidence.
I just went for a stroll to look for some SW-figs at different second hand stores...
Long story short: I ended up at a street flea market, spotted a Toxic crusaders fig, and *King Hiss* him self 😄
I got both of the for ~2USD.
Shore, poor Hiss had lost one of his arms, and his human disguise was gone, but you want to display him in his true form any way.
And regarding the arm..? Well, lets just say that He Man cut it of (or maby Skeletor did it) 😄
Very interesting, I never really thought of the Snake Men back in the 80s, but I admit that they never got their potential realized. Their appearance in the early 2000s was astounding to me, and I loved how things could have tied together (and wish they had). I am reminded of a question I had though. How does She-Ra's sword with its transforming power match up with He-Man's sword?
Yeah that was when they came into their own
Another great video
And another thank you from me to you
Thank you very much for making this interesting video. I`m in love with Kobra Khan. He was my very first MotU figure back in the day.
One of mine too
Love the Snake Men because of the King of the Snake Men mini-comic. I always wished we could have gotten every Snake Man that appeared in that mini-comic as a figure in MOTUC.
Oh such a great mini comic
Love the Snake Men. Great designs, great figures, and great fun! I especially like all the real-world inspirations of their designs, including the eyelash viper for one of the swappable Snake Men Warrior heads.
It always puzzles me when people say "Sssqueeze doesn't look like a snake!" They should look at emerald tree boas, the inspiration for the character -- an atypically big, long snout full of teeth, just like Sssqueeze. Or even more hilarious, when they call Tung Lashor a frog, because they argue that his feet and hands "don't look snakey enough." Yes, they actually argue about how snake limbs should look. Snake limbs. Snake. Limbs. Let that sink in. If they wanted realistic snake limbs, that'd be limited to two tiny, one-clawed spurs on the hips of just the constrictor-themed characters. 🤣
I googled that and can totally see it!
Very cool. The "Snake. Limbs." thing made me think of glass snakes -- not snakes at all but limbless Iizards.
@@TitularHeroine We have slow-worms in our neck of the woods, similarly legless lizards. I used to have a pet skink, who looked like a snake with teeny little legs. He was called Ssslink.
@@Beedo_Sookcool Awesome.
Really love when the topic is about history of motu,.i really love the snakemen faction yes they are colorfull and full of gimmiks on vintage toys maybe thats why.,i have read once that thses guys overthrow the rulers of eternia when they arrived and those were the race of webstor the spider like humanoids,dont know if they drove them to their extinction thats why webstor is the only one left.,then they rule preternia for a millennia
I'll get to a Webstor history soon!
@@spectorcreative1872 🤓👍😄 wooo hoo!
Hey Spector I've got a question/video idea. You spoke before how the license for He-Man reverts to Universal in 2023. If you were managing the license for Universal and could decide who got what license to create product, who would you choose and why? Would you let Mattel keep it? Mattel keep part of it and license out to other manufacturers? Would you try to separate the kids line and the collector lines by manufacturer or have them all in 1 house? Domestic or International? Etc. I think it would be a fun, speculative video to see.
I'll add that to the video list!
Would you revive Classics???
I didnt really watch the 200x show regularly....just several episodes at the time..but this video sure explains who the Snake Men are. I didnt really know their past or backstory. As a kid in the 80s they came out late as you mentioned and i dont remember any kid having them.
If you can ever get ahold of it on DVD I say check it out!
@@spectorcreative1872 ..whats funny i bought all 3 seasons and been too lazy to watch it. Guess im gonna start now...the Revelations show dissapointed me. Then he man flashbacks teela has is too much and ruins it for me.
That sword was also one my “pocket toys!”
Oh that might hurt
I remember those 200X Snake Men figures. They were the variants my brother and I had and we integrated them with our Classics. Some of them (like Rattlor) were awesome, but Snake Crush Skeletor sucked.
My friend growing up had an older brother who had the original Snake Men, as they were the only figures available when he was a kid. I remember him showing me his Rattlor and Tongue Lashor and figuring out they hand gimmicks by mistake. They were cool figures.
Yes he did
Wait, wait wait... you mean to tell me that Orko... precious little Orko... just... did a *genocide* based on a torture that was implemented by Thanos?!
Think of it more as self defense
I remember having the Rattlor action figure as a kid...the rest is a haze...Another interesting and insightful take..Thanks guru 😉
Glad you enjoyed and it brought back good memories
If they ever make a big screen movie for He-man you spectre creative must be the consultant/ screen writer 100% Facts
I wouldn’t say no!
@@spectorcreative1872 your knowledge of the Masters of the universe brand is unrivaled by anyone working in Hollywood
You're the only one I can trust to get
This property told the right way.
100% Facts
My cousin had all the snake men. They were awesome. Another great video btw.
Cousins always had the good stuff
@@spectorcreative1872 I know! Not fair lol
I know that "The Unamed One" gets a bit of hate but I actually like him. He's pretty cool looking and I like his backstory too.
I thought so too
When you say Sssqueeze's name, you gotta sell it, bruh. Stress the multiple S's... Sssssssssqueeze! 😂
Of course!
Heh. I had a pet skink as a youngster, but since he looked more snake than lizard, I called him Ssslink.
@@Beedo_Sookcool 😂😂😂
Will we get a video about the towers from the preternia playset
Yup
Snake Men rules!
Agreed
Love that Earl Norem art. He lived in my state and I didn't find out until after he had passed away. Man, if I had known....
I met him once. Was very honored
Scott. Was it ever explained/ did you explain why they all have the same staff as Hssss? All except for Squeeeeeze of course? And if Hsssss' shield is the Shield of Ka and Teela had the Staff of Ka, what is the significance/provenance of the generic snake staff?
Tongue Lasher came with a dragonfly thing (if I remember correctly)
yes it was explained in the bios. It is on page 452 of the character guide and compendium
@@oansun I just had a look and it doesn't explain the 4 generically named Snake Staffs which is what I was curious about. I only really mentioned Teela in reference to the Ka Staff and Shield. There is no entry for the Snake Staff in the Compendium that I could see.
@@MrHemanclix he does. As well as the same staff in a different colour. They all do except Squeeze who had a differently design of staff. Always been curious as to why.
I'll be getting to that in a future video!
I remember the original 3 ( Hiss, Rattlor, and Tongue Lashor) in 86. I never got the others that came out in 87 because I never saw them. Wasn't Squeeze originally named Tanglor?
Yup. He was even called that in one of the mini-comics.
Yup and Snake Face was Medusa man
@@spectorcreative1872 Why not Snake- e- Faces tho??
Love the London Editions comics introduction of these, too.
Nice!
So Gorpo has no connection with the Horde, right? Anyhoo, I do appreciate the fact that you gave Lady Slither certain mammalian features...
Nope. He is his own thing
Like the best emoticon:
Parenthesis, space, lower case O, space, capital Y, space, lower case O, space, close parenthesis.
Noice.
I was 5 -6around the time of 200x and I absolutely loved the snake men season king hiss was so badass he could beet skeletor with little effort not to mention snake armour heman being a absolutely amazing outfit change it just all worked really well for me only problem I couldn’t find a lot of the toys I think I had 6-7 in total never ever found king hiss tho😭
Spector creative is also the creator of my fav action figure 2 pack I own snake armour heman and king hiss classics 2 pack it’s the only one I HAD To open it was too badass😍😍
Snake man at arms is too cool I love that plot thread
One of the best parts of the show
I seem to remember that Cobra Khan was in Skeletor's army because he was a decendent who's race was begining to lose their snakegenes.
As explored in the 200X show!
@@spectorcreative1872 But also hinted in the 90's comicbooks.
Hsss say something like "Even if Khan is not a true Snakeman, he sure acts like one. And I think he would side with me if the moment showed itself...."
Another great video sir- so thank you very much! I really liked the old Snake Men (comics/ toys) & loved how 200x expanded on it. An then the gates were blown open- so awesome! Were there any Snake Men that didn't make the cut?
Well we certainly wanted to do a lady slither fig
I wonder if Lady Slither's lower torso would fit with Hiss' upper....
Well the male and female figures did not really have compatible heads so...
Hi Scott!
Thank you very much for the video, it has been very illustrative and complete.
I am a big fan and a student of the continuity that you created in the Classics line, always well explained in the bios. I like how you unified the most outstanding elements of the different media. After the information desert that was the 90's, and the abrupt end of the 200X toy line and its TV series, something like that was necessary.
But after watching this video I have a question. In it you clearly mention that three races were used to create the DNA of the Snake Men (the Lizar People from Eternia... the Caligars from Eternia, like Whipash... and the race of Lyzzor, from the NA), while in the Classics bios are mentioned two races (the Lizard People from Eternia, again... the Klybians from Draphos, like Saurod) and we never knew which race was the third.
Please could you clarify this matter? What do we take for valid?
I am translating the Classics bios in Spanish language for the Spaniard and Hispanic American fandom, respecting the beautiful and academic way in which all the descriptive texts of the vintage figures were translated, very similar to the antique medieval Spanish lenguage. This information can be very helpful.
Thank you very much for your attention, Scott! :)
So glad and really happy to have you as part of the channel
Great video. Any idea if there were any plans in the 1980's to release more "snap-on armor" to King Hiss? Even as a kid I though that was a given to give King Hiss the ability to disguise differently. It could have been sold like the Weapon pak, but with three-four different snap on armors/parts
Surprisingly the designers hated the way hssss turned our so they weren’t really big on new armor parts
I feel like you could do a whole video on the confusing origin of Blast-Attack.
It’s coming…
This is good. Thank you.
Thrilled you are enjoying!
Fun fact, the first motu styled Snake man figure was released by a knock off line before motu released any snakemen
lol do you mean Galaxy Warriors? Idk if thats actually a "fun fact" but yea Kobraa is who you mean
@@oansun close. Its actually snake man from remcos warrior beasts which came out in 82
I'll add that to the list
@@superermac55 Hydraz?
@@TitularHeroine no Snake man, he was purple, had a long tail
Loved the old mini comic introducing the Snakemen.
The Snakemen appeal to kids judging by my two boys. Got MOTUC Serpent King Hsssss delivered yesterday. Want to surprise my kids by changing the head on King Hsssss to the half transformed head to see when they notice. Then put the big snake body up.
Oh yes! See the video linked at the end
I always thought it'd be cool if the snake man had holographic chest plates a similar to the visionaries then you can show some pretty cool differences between the characters
Oh that would be awesome
Was lady slither Your original creation? I really wish she was made into a figure
Yes, but Axel did the visual
Which comics are you showing? , i would like to read them
If you had the money to not re-use parts, how would you design the transformed King Hsss's lower half?
King Hsss always has legs, he doesn’t have a snake lower half
@@spectorcreative1872 Yes, how would that even work? Just a bunch of snake tails? I think the right choice was made here!
In you're research at Mattel, were you able to find the original plans as to who the Unnamed One was going to be, back in the day? Surely it must have been a time-displaced Keldor..?
Alas, if there were any nothing could be found
It could have been setting up something awesome! Instead we got Gorpo.
So why did Rattlor and Tsung Lasher later join the Horde?
See their bios in the MOTUC line!
Can you do an episode on how MOTUO and WWEternia has been reusing sculpts from MOTUC?
Sure Nick! I’ll add it to the list
@@spectorcreative1872 my name is still not nick, but I’m excited to see the video!
I am curious how Saurod fits into the relation with all of them (Lizard people, Snake Men, etc..?
Quick question if you please the extra snake man and snake women when you look up snake-men online it shows that supposed to be cannon from the He-Man Masters of the x-series you know the good one besides original lol could you do a video on them sometime if you have time preciate it and thank you
See here as well as part 2 of this: ruclips.net/video/NbtXuC9uJbU/видео.html
That's an awesome story
Heya, sir (And anyone who's tried it and would know). With 200x being 6" scale, do their accessories work with vintage at all? (I'm guessing not armor because they look to have a more slender build). Thank you!
This was a pretty great episode. Who wouldn't love snake men?!
It’s one of those kinda sorta fig by fig basis things
I hate the idea of losing man at arms to the snake men.
Not everything always works out
Are you assuming the Unnamed One’s Gender?
No, I know what it is, I created him
So how did rattler and tongue Lasher get sent to the horde?
That is a video for another Time
11:53 Is "Trolla" (sp?) another planet or just another continent?
It is another planet in another dimension
I believe the snake man were heavily Base off by the serpent man from Robert E Howard and HP Lovecraft respectedly
See the origin of the snake men video for the full scoop! (At the end screen)
L ove The SNAKE Men! They're my favorite baddies. Can you add some more flavor as to the origins of the concept overall in the beginning, ie was the trope of an ancient Alien / Reptile race being locked in another dimension and freed it derived from LoveCraft's the Nameless City? Is there any information on the development of that part of the story line?
Yes that is part of what happened between King Grayskull's time and Hssss being released in He-Man's time
@@spectorcreative1872 Was it inspired by Lovecraft though?
@@spectorcreative1872 @Jason
The overused trope of reptile - especially *_anthropomorphic_* reptile - races/species/characters in being evil in media is getting really, *_really, REALLY_* emotionally tiring there - at least for me - which is why I *_*LOVE*_* the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Extreme Dinosaurs animated T.V. show and toy product line franchises so much there: the main protagonists are *_anthropomorphic_*_ _*_*reptiles*_* - anthropomorphic turtles and dinosaurs, respectively, there!!! "Can't anthropomorphic reptiles be 'good guys' *_FOR ONCE_* in media???!" is what I often think of there when it seems like anthropomorphic reptile characters are always relegated to the villains/'bad guys' side in media.
Wonder why Blast Attack was put with the Snake Men
He wasn't, in some of the comics. In the mini-comics, though, he was released at the same time as Snake Face and Sssqueeze, so he got lumped in with them.
@@Beedo_Sookcool I didn’t think he was exactly a “member” but I feel like a lot of classics collectors tie him in with the Snake Men
Answers are coming
I've realized that a lot of these MotU videos are Scott covering Mattel's initial concepts, then expanding with his Head Cannon in Classics.
I find his head cannon pretty interesting though. Keeps me engaged for the duration..usually
Well considering my « head cannon » was actually on toy packaging and in mini comics it is kinda official
@@spectorcreative1872 True
@@spectorcreative1872 So it's canon, canon..not so much head...😅
When I was a kid I had ratlor Kobra Kahn and king hiss. I wanted the other snake men. But not long after that time I started collecting other action figures and stopped playing with He-Man figures.
Yup, and that is why they are a bit unknown
I think that shadow weaver is half trollan and half etherian
yes! my Son and I have been talking about that. she's the only Classics figure I ever bought, and I bought her specifically for my Son off of BBTS recently. I never could have one when I was a kid, there was no figure of her back then, and her being too tall shouldn't be a problem, cuz she's king of a monster, right?
so we're wondering, museing with each other: where are her legs and feet? does she even have any? is she like Orco? no face, just eyes peering out from under a hood. scary 😱 lol how is it that Orco isn't terrifying? ☺️🧙♂️
She is human under there
So you were the Roger Sweet of this character and Axel was the Mark Taylor 😉
Except we like each other
I always thought Tongue Lasher was a frog-man. More of an amphibian than a reptile. And his "special power" should've been a hallucinogenic poison that secretes from his skin. Just like any brightly colored frog would.
Maybe that would be a whole new character... "Trip-or" ! accessories: disco ball and glowsticks.
Oh yes, thé designers all thought he was a frog man too
Tung lashor was a favorite of mine, I always knew he was a snake due to the Snake symbol emblazoned on his chest.
I did think his hands and legs were froglike though.
if the snakemen worshipped the unnamed one, then what about Serpos?
right?
They did not worship the Unnamed one, he was the boss.
@@spectorcreative1872 so where does Serpos come in at? also, does the unnamed one worship Serpos?
Hey Spector what categories do you UL this under also how do you avoid having comments disabled for the COPPA BS? I am a big Ray Harryhausen Stop Motion fan Clash of The Titans being one of my favorites along with his Sinbad movies and Jason and Argonauts. I thought Lady Slither or so was based on ADnD like the Marilith or Lillend or Lamia Noble as she is really pretty like the remake of Clash though I kinda prefer Wraith of The Titans for the newer ones. I don't own any of the snakes it goes back to Set or just cold blooded reptiles you can't read their emotions or reactions. They should have made a cooler leader then an Orko knockoff who is hardly menacing or as cool as that one Female who I think was one or sorta resembles em. I got some Simpsons Series 4 then 11 I have Larry Burns the Rodney Dangerfield. I never seen them talk so if were able to do a video on that ever showing how inter active environments work to make them say things or talk I'd really enjoy seeing it.
I honestly don’t know anything about comments or how they get disabled
@@spectorcreative1872 Thanks maybe it was a fluke as YT has been acting really weird lately. I keep getting emails before something is even uploaded saying they put it in 18+ but the time I got don't add up or the hours ago its really odd. I think they see my staff in the scan thinking its a rod or something it started about 2 weeks ago. Then when trimmed this Super Gogeta it was disabled comments unless I did that when set for Allow all by mistake. I got nerve damage so I jump around or spasm so its possible I double clicked or move the roller just strange heh. Its not like you can talk to anybody on here or ever get an answer so hehe :). I don't add in anything that appeals to them just showing a thing in a box is about as boring as it gets right ;).
At the time the Snake Men action figures were released in 1986, I wondered what had happened to Kobra Khan. I've always wondered what connection Kobra Khan had to the Snake Men.
If I was to make an educated guess, I assume Thoth Amon to be the template for King Hsss. As much as Thulsa Doom had been for Skeletor. It might be necessary to mention, that the character James Earl Jones was portraying in Conan the Barbarian had actually been misnamed. He actually embodied Thoth Amon, a wizard, which runs a snake cult, and with a knack of turning into snakes. The true Thulsa Doom, as shown in the comics based on Robert E. Howard’s creation actually is an undead (lich) wizard with a skeleton head…mmh, wizard with skeleton head…
Check out the video linked at the end for the scoop!
@@spectorcreative1872 If you refer to your video of how and why the Snakemen were created, I had already watched that. Still you can not deny the striking resemblances to the comics of Robert E. Howard. May it be He-Man/Oo-Larr (Conan), Teela (Red Sonja), Skeletor (Thulsa Doom), and King Hsss (Thoth Amon). www.pinterest.com/pin/827536500258434402/ twitter.com/i/events/893188683184164866
I also would like to make a note of the Snake Men from the Conan series,
And those from the Pellicidar books!
Man, we need that Lady Slither's lair 😮
I remember as a kid being super excited when the 200X snakemen started coming out and was bummed when they had a more animated, stylized, less 'Horsemen' look. Do you have any insight as to why that happened?
Edit: oh and I also wanted to say, from the moment the Unnamed One was revealed I loved him and his story. Just to finally see a Trollan living up to his magical potential was awesome!
Glad to hear it! Made with love
I have the Classics Unamed One and still dont know who he is
Yay! Thanks!
Glad you liked!
5:12 The tail end of a line is TIGHT!
9:28 The Unnamed One's name is not Grogu?
10:48 "Was!" I mean "was"! Grogu in a *blender?!*
Seriously though. Was Dri-Elle one of the Trollan Overlords?
No, they existed eons ago.
Tongue lasher may be one of my favorite figures but he’s also the ultimate dirty joke.
Indeed
Am I the only one thinking that King Hiss and Lady Slither can have two 69s at the same time?
Yes. Just you
@@spectorcreative1872 ☹😊🤫