The Secret Origin of Hordak; Mattel Toy, She Ra Enemy, Cartoon Superstar and Scorned Little Brother!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Scott Toy Guru Neitlich dives into the slightly complex but always entertaining Origin of Hec-Tor Kurr, AKA Hordak Ruthless "Leader" of the Evil Horde. His origins, his banishment, his grand plans and his death at Skeletor's hands. It's all here! Plus his scheming older brother and a look at his concept art too!
Artwork by Tom Krohne used at 4:30 mark. Awesome work Tom.
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Never was a huge fan of He-Man back in the days, but watching those videos, I realize what amazing lore this show had.
Quite epic!
@@spectorcreative1872 This is the sort of lore which could spawn a good tabletop roleplaying game/wargame. Look at Warhammer 40K... Is there any He-Man RPGs out there? I mean outside the one made in the 80s...
the show itself didn't have much coherent lore lol, but the minicomics and also all the "newer" stuff are all pretty solid
I always thought the original 4 horde-members where based on classic monsters with Hordak as a vampire, Grizzlor was the werewolf, Leech the creature from the black lagoon and Mantenna, as the least "obvious", as the Fly...
I suppose that could certainly been part of the original design idea.
Modulok = Frankenstein's Monster?
I always saw them as inspired by Skeletor and his minions: Hordak/Skeletor, Grizzlor/Beast-Man, Leech/Mer-Man, and Mantenna/Tri-Klops.
Interesting. I always saw Skeletor and his minions as Classic Monsters:
Skeletor: Skeleton
Evil Lyn: Classic Witch
Beast Man: Werewolf/Wolfman
Merman: Creature from the Black Lagoon
Trap-Jaw: Frankenstein
Check out The Masters of the Universe Drawing Challenge on Twitter and search
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Hordak: Dracula
That is a great assumption!!!
Man, that was amazing with the chronological order of events. You summed it all up very well.
Glad it was easy to understand. I was afraid with so much stuff it might get mixed up
Wow, all the points of the storylines are coming together. I really need to get the comics and get caught up on this. Great video!!!
I do hope DC will reprint all the comics in a trade one day
@@spectorcreative1872 I hope someone does, not being able to read up on this stuff anywhere has been killing me for years now. Even wikis and such haven't recapped things that I've seen.
I was able to get them for both Hanukkah and Christmas! Christmas from my mom’s side and Hanukkah from my dad’s side
Nice! He is an all tradition kinda villain
@@spectorcreative1872 You’re in CA & I’m in NYS.... it’s speaks for itself 😗😇
There is a He-Man Dreidel?
Awesome! And I wish we had gotten resurrected Skeletor, I like that ram horn inspired head piece.
He was planned as part of a big multi media event that was canned at the last minute
When I was a kid me and my friend would bring all of our masters of the universe toys to church to play with under the pews. Lol
Nice! But don't let mom see you.
Did you make them say, "Pew Pew!" XD
transformers heman matchbox, and gi-Joe came to church every Sunday for quite some time... Memories...its so funny u said this!! I cant believe I was the ONLY one doing it, atleast u admitted it..lol
Man, that was far more than I was expecting, what a huge video!
Loved it!
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This entire story needs to be made into one big live action movie. 🎦
Make it happen Sony!
Wow, this is deep deep. I can see this surviving decades
And it keeps getting better
Mattel needs to hire someone to take all these stories from the cartoons, comics, and character bios and produce a novel series.
I'm available
Or a movie series!
I would definitely buy them..
@@CapitanJusticia really? Can you imagine what kind of pc woke garbage that would be? The age of movies is over. If you want good entertainment you can forget hollywood. It’s all just sjw propaganda. With extremely few exceptions.
@@TheUrratha Yeah, just look at what Hollywood did with The Game of Thrones. 😏
It’s a shame the animated series got canceled before a lot of these ideals could be realized, hopefully the NETFLIX revival can explore these ideas
I would so watch it!
He-Man line? Because She-Ra already got its revival.
From what i see, its alot of rewriting of the end point, starting with the battle that throws Hordak into Atheria. But, from that point on its alternate universe stuff. Alternate Dispondose. This is where the new 2018 She-Ra came into play.
@@kellerweskier7214 watch it again, it's all about blossoming sexuality and very LGBT positive. I've watched the series 2.5 times with my 4 year old daughter, she loves playing Adora and being powerful!
@@scthomas1982 well that's cool
@@easygrin1127 Puking...
Loved the baby Cable cameo!! Lol
Baby cable always needs a cameo
So really, She-Ra actually has the more powerful arch enemy, plus Hordak has more troops, and She-ra has no Royal guard as back-up
She does though, she has many powerful princess and has the rebel forces.
From a certain point of view, yes
@@spectorcreative1872 From the way they interact, it seems Filmation intended for Skeletor to be the slightly stronger of the two in terms of personal combat ability and is the better planner, but Hordak has an army and Skeletor does not. That alone makes Hordak more dangerous.
Skeletor wins their fight on Horde Prime's ship one on one, and he always outsmarts Hordak, right from the first She-ra episodes where Hordak is introduced, but Hordak can buy him in robots and he knows it.
@@killingragethrowback Hordak was Skeletor's mentor.
I love your vids scott thanks man makes my day every time we get a new one
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Thanks for explaining it better!!!
Always glad to! Tell your friends. ;-)
Gifts on Arbor Day? Well done.
Everyone should have their own traditions to pass along
In history class once, we were reading about the Mongol Horde and a kid yelled out...the leader is HORDAK!!!!!
This morning i watched your video "The secret origin of skeletor" while getting dressed for work. I thought "cool, but last week, there was some other dude who explained the story of skeletor even better". Now, youtube recommended this video to me, which i started to watch and i thought to myself "man i gotta find that other dude, who explained skeletors story so well! " and i checked my timeline.
It was your Video "why does skeletor want to take over castle grayskull anyway?".
You now have another subscriber.
Well thank you and welcome to the channel!~ Topic suggestions always welcome.
@@spectorcreative1872 So i heard the netflix series will "continue" where the old series left us, so maybe you could give us a summary of what happened before we watch the new show? (i'm sorry if you already did this somewhere) I love your content !
I had the Fright Zone but none of the Horde, lol.
Well its never too late
@Pop-Actor (Rick) I did not have Panthor either.
15:17
*me, a stratos ride or die*
Scott: "shes of course confronted with eternias #1 champion..."
Me: "stratos"
Scott: "Stratos"
Me: "NO WAY"
Scott: "I mean he-man"
Me: *cries*
Oh boy...
Yet again you deliver. I never read the last few mini comics since I am a collector for boxed figures. It is awesome to see how it all goes together.
Don't get me wrong, I love all your videos. But this video is definitely top 5.
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Hordak was my favorite villain and my favorite figure. Great video as always. :)
He is pretty bad ass
7:39 "Who Wants to Live Forever?" Was the Queen single from the Highlander film
Likely..
Awesome video. Been watching all of your MOTU stuff, fantastic insights for an old school fan like me. Thank You!!
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That 02 design hordak looks bad ass
Very much so. Still want a figure of that
Still one of my GOAT villains!🤘
Sin duda, un muy interesante personaje, buen vídeo!!!!
Mucho Gracias!
Out here stringing all of the different stories together! Lol
It helps to have a spread sheet
These stories aren't a continuous arc. There are several different canons that are all retcons of each other. The comics have their own canon which is separate from the Filmation canon which is different from the 200x/MYP canon. Then there are other canons purely based on the toys. In the comic "Masters of Multiverse" the different canons are all acknowledged.
Nice. Masters of the universe revolution followed this almost perfectly. Nice to finally see this animated. So what's next? Despara vs He man, the resurrection of Hordak? Horde prime makes an entrance? Looking good story wise for season 3
This info/lore was great. Please keep up the great work!!!!
More coming! Tell your friends!
I was literaly doing bussines on a red area of my contry (it looks like a zonbie apocalipse) and found Origins Hordak just there... I have the big 3 now...
Nice
Fantastic Scott, another great video. I never understood even now how Skeletor is the apprentice of Hordak, when he is of Magic and Hordak of Science. You would think Skeletor would have been under Shadow Weaver.
It’s all a great magic circle
totaly Mass Effect only there s cloneing there this planetes in this Horde Story are massive universes space if ever Played Mass Effect different planets to travel to. different city s to see
HeNan to the Rescue for Vad bad Uncle
totaly Elric’s stories Creator of. MOTU was inspired by Rlric Mrldabone Other Dtories like Conan. Almost A Frank Frazetta Imagination but live cartoon of Fantasy SyFy Elric Meldabone Albino Elf wilder of the Eternal champion. Sword later Become The Black sword ⚔️ Eater of Souls Elric Had A brother like. Keldor & Randor are Brothers. Story is that Elric Killed His own Rais e they More Darker then Elric then later On he Runs into A warrior Called Hawkmoon can Be HeMan inspiration was Hawkmoon another Eternal Champion
Cool stuff. I loved the horde as a kid. they were the bad asses of the toybox
They certainly were!
Always loved there being more than one big bad, makes for a great dynamic and all three of them are pretty friggin' awesome too
And get cooler with each year
I thought Hordak stole Adora because he knew of the prophecy that the royal twins would rise up and destroy the horde. He tried to kidnap them both but only managed to get Adora. Then instead of killing Adora he raised her as his own and shadow weaver enchanted her
That is all there as well, I just skipped some of the small details
This was an interesting backstory. I am happy to have learned it. Very informative
Topic suggestions always welcome!
The He-Man series (among others) was a major childhood inspiration for my 'Power of Omegus!' sci-fi trilogy I came up (Omegus, 'Supreme Emperor of the Imperium Empire' being the most powerful villain in all existence, who battles against the heroic scientist/special agent Dr Todd Roone of the W.D.F.) I'd love to see a crossover with He-Man & She-Ra if I ever write my story and if it becomes popular, Omegus would be the greatest threat to Eternia if he discovered that world (as he would be to any world that has the power that he craves)
That is awesome. A sign of a good toy line is how much it inspires us in life
Power of Amogus lmao
@@cinnamonbun1379 lol
This Night Lords origin story is off the chain
I do enjoy a good chain
Since finding these comics is next to impossible without large sums of money and time, I really hope at least some of it gets used in one of the upcoming MOTU animated shows on Netflix. There is so much potential for great content here, and it would work as a series of movies to boot!
Oh me too! Or maybe DC can friggin reprint them already in a trade!!!
Damn i Had those Toys at 3:35 min. too.... So AWESOME!!😎
Nice!
And in the Richard Klosterman head cannon, in the end, everyone is brought back to life for one gigantic battle in which Faker emerges victorious with his new bestest buds Draego Man and Trap Jaw!
Seriously though, Scott, is there any way we could get a video about Draego Man? I think he's one of the absolute coolest things ever to come out of Classics! I want to know so much more about him!
I'm going in order of release, so he isn't too far off!
@@spectorcreative1872 I remember Fang man and Lizard Man in early Filmation episodes and how they just disappeared.
I was able to get the fright zone and the slime pit. It was very cool. Even had castle Grayskull. Was a lucky kid.
You were! Great time to be a kid it was
Awesome Vlog.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you.😉👍
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and the kind comment
Who doesn't want to live forever?...you're joking right?....doesn't matter, I love your love of this franchise SC, especially your intimate knowledge of the behind the scenes toy stuff...cheers rollo
Not I! And I plan to
it was called he- man and the masters of the universe since i was a kid and that was like in the 80's
Yup!
Thank you for this great summary & trip down memory lane. But is there really no complete, collection of all these stories? 😲
Alas, DC comics has not reprinted them as of yet. Let them know this is something you would like to see!
@@spectorcreative1872 Thank you for the insight! And keep up the great work 👍
I really enjoyed this video. It some ways, this was like the larger overall storyline of MOTUC. It left me with one nagging question though! Does Horde Lord have origins outside of MOTUC? Is he something adopted from the archives, or a more recent character?
If memory serves, it was the UK comics
They need to do a book collecting all the mini comics from the newer toy lines similar to the book they did with all the vintage ones.
I’ve been saying this for years
Once I met a northern German man at a hotel I worked at. He said his name checking in and I thought I missed something; I said “what’s your name again?”
“HORDAK!” He said in a thick German(?) accent.
Did you run and hide immediately?
@@spectorcreative1872 I had to check him in, I was surprised a man had the last name hordak. I had a hard time not laughing but I’m glad I didn’t or I would be pile of ash.
In another video, you said that He-Man and She-Ra cannot appear in media together, which is why there was no He-Man in the 2018 She-Ra cartoon. What about Hordak? Is he bound to the She-Ra universe as well?
Hordak is allowed because his toy shipped under the MOTU brand in the 80's. I know, its complicated...
Thank you for sharing the storyline.
I've always been a fan of princess of power since I was a kid because the storyline of evil vs good battle I felt was pretty awesome then watching GiJoe or transformers.
It was a great cartoon afternoon we once had
Warning. Do not type Hordak/Skeletor/He-man three way into a non-child safe google search
So noted.
How can I get these mini-comics?? They sound so good, but only the first few and in the big compendium.
Alas, DC has yet to reprint them. Let them know if this is something you want to see!
This was pretty interesting! I had no idea Hordak's OG design was inspired by a mask or that Bruce Timm drew the first comic about him. I'm a big fan of the latest iteration of Hordak and he has a completely different backstory. In this universe, Horde Prime is a cult leader as well as ruler of a massive empire and Hordak is a clone of his, who was thrown out of Prime's army for being disabled and therefore "worthless". Hordak wants to be accepted by Prime and tries to conquer Etheria by setting up a Horde army there, in the hope of impressing his "brother" and proving he isn't worthless. Scorpia, Catra and Octavia are amongst his army! Adora was raised in the Horde too, but defects after befriending Princess Glimmer of Brightmoon and her best friend Bow. Adora doesn't have a wicked cool battle suit/persona in the new one and certainly no buzzcut, though I can imagine some lesbians might wish she did. XD Adora forms the Princess Alliance with various royals in order to take down the Horde. An autistic princess named Entrapta gets accidentally left behind on a mission to the Fright Zone and Catra and Scorpia convince her to work for the Horde instead, as their technology expert. She starts working beside Hordak and finds out about his backstory and disability. She tells him not to be ashamed of his disability, having one herself, and that "imperfection is beautiful". Hordak falls in love with her and as a result, when Prime shows up again, he eventually kills his big brother to protect Entrapta, the woman who showed him he was worth something. It's such a beautiful love story! :)
I'm currently reading a fanfiction in which Hordak is Prime's literal brother and it's super good, especially when they find Etheria and meet lots of other familiar characters from She Ra!
Yeah, everything in this video predates the She-Ra Netflix show which went in a different direction
awesome
Right back at you
I always felt like Hordak was disrespected from the get go and was one of the biggest mismanaged characters of the whole line. I mean, they went to all this effort to create a guy who made a guy with a skull for a face seem tame by comparison. When the commercials introduced this new ultimate evil that even frightened Skeletor, I was totally on board.
So, did they take this instantly iconic design and personality and portrayed it as the ultimate evil? The biggest bad guy of all, worthy of training Skeletor and challenging both he and He-Man?
Nope, he was shuffled off to fight a bunch of rooted hair dolls and a guy with a heart on his chest. But the indignity didn't stop there! No, he was quickly demoted to second banana so he could cower to Horde Prime. His henchmen, who judging by the figures, were supposed to be bizarre and terrifying were quickly reduced to comic relief. Grizzlor wasn't a terrifying beast of legend, just another idiot. Same with Leech. And Mantenna, maybe one of the most f---ed up and scary figure designs in the line was reduced to nothing more than a clown. Modulok was like something out of John Carpenter's The Thing, but spent most of his time in front of a computer console.
And the disrespect didn't stop there. The 200X series was cancelled before we got to see Hordak truly arrive in his full glory. The comics mentioned in the video have him defeated by Skeletor. I mean the whole point of Hordak was that He-man had been defeating Skeletor time and again for the past couple of years and needed an adversary who really tested him. Yet Hordak was continually bested by Skeletor in just about every iteration, which torpedoed his whole reason for being.
Then even the toy line quickly forgot what he was supposed to be ... introducing King Hiss as the new ultimate bad guy. All of the sudden everything was Snakemen, and the Horde was kind of forgotten. Even guys like Blast Attack, who seemed like a hoard figure, were now Snakemen figures.
Yeah, the girls group kinda, well, see here: ruclips.net/video/GOONTAqPhjU/видео.html
I am currently collecting the Mega Construx MotU stuff, and I pray to the gods of Earth and Eternia they will make the EVIL HORDE actionfigs someday.
A fun line to be into
"She is confronted by Eternia's #1 champion Stratos..I mean He-man"
No no, you got it right the first time :)
I knew it!
Hordak is a comedy genius.
Tip your waiters folks...
What a story.
It really is!
I would pay good money to have this all centralized in some kind of encyclopedia or main continuity.
Dark Horse has done this! Quite a few good coffee table books are out there
I'm glad you mentioned Isaac Asimov. I love his work, I keep hunting for his older works, specifically novels
His stuff is great, and a huge influence on Star Wars clearly. I mean a character name Han in a galactic Empire?
@@spectorcreative1872 thanks for replying. I wanted to say thanks to you cause you're one of the content creators here in RUclips who actually replies to the comments from fans. Of all the channels I sub'd to, you're the one of two who actually replies 😊
Have the mini comics of the classics line(not the original) every been released as collection of books at all?
Alas, DC Comics has not yet reprinted them. Let them know this is something you want!
@@spectorcreative1872 yeah I th8nk alot of us are missing out on some amazing stories since not everyone could get the toys at the time.
Nice to see some of them in your video's though so keep up the great work.
great video
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This was awesome. What is this 2000xyou speak of ? How can I watch or read this storyline ? Thx
It is the Mike Young Production Animated series which ran 2001-2002. You can get it on DVD or it may be on a streaming service. I haven't kept up
The old filmation series also showed us that the apprentice has surpassed the master. Skeletor always seems to get the better of Hordak one on one or scheme for scheme, but Hordak has an army that Skeletor can't match and those resources keep him in the game.
And a rematch would be great
I think that both villains are a couple of hams and they try to upstage one another. The Secret of the Sword was a great movie and the action was really great. On some of the episodes, Earth was mentioned. It's too bad they didn't try to come here only in the live action movie
Pretty typical of 80's bad guys!
The funny part about all these He-Man videos explaining the origins and different characters and stuff is... if you watch the episode of "The Toys that made us" on Netflix that focused on He-Man... you'll see just how much they were just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck as far as character design. All this explanation is post hoc now that geek culture is super mainstream & demands that everything have this in depth story behind it to justifyits existence. Everything has to be Tolkien or something... truth is... they were just selling plastic, it was never that deep. But I love hearing how they ended up having to piece all this stuff together into and make it into a universe.
They're doing the same thing with Star Wars I feel like. What was supposed to be a fun little romp about Space Samurai and Space Cowboys/Outlaws 40 odd years ago now has to be Hamlet or something... it ain't that deep.
Oh it is definitely true, and a big reason with Classics since that was an adult collector line we wanted to use that to flesh out the story more and make it more epic
More isn't always best ...too much of some can be a bad thing... like if you over feed a gold fish it will die ..
@14:05 what issue is that/ DCE masters #1?
I have this figure I always wondered about its origins. Thanks for making this. I recognize it as a Mattel toy related to the he-man series. However, I was not familiar with She-Ra in depth. I like that word "zombified".
With the way the rights issues are screwed up, it is confusing to all
Hordak was my 2nd Funko Pop!
A worthy Pop. I have a video about Funko coming up soon
@@spectorcreative1872 The only He-Man/She-Ra Pops! I've got are Hordak. Trapjaw and He-Man. I bought He-Man before Christmas and I have a video about the Pop! on my channel.
this is GOLD
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Mattel sent me a free Fright Zone. It may of been the best day of my life. I believe it was due to the sheer number of entries I made to the create a character contest.
Nice! And a video on hat is coming soon BTW
Now I have to check all my comic book stores to see if this story has been collected into a PTB
It has not, but if you want to see it ask DC comics to print it!
The evil horde was the only thing that made she ra watchable!
Not the outfits?
Hordak was also the inspiration for Marvel's/X-men's Apocalypse!
Was he now? I had not heard that but I can see it
@@spectorcreative1872 Apocalypse was a last minute replacement in X-Factor. The Owl was supposed to be the Mastermind behind Frenzy, Tower and Timeshadow. Apocalypse was also supposed to be a single use villain, but his popularity brought him back. Go figure a MOTU knock off ended up getting an amazing history.
Marvels/Xmen "Apocalypse" was inspired by the entity named "Molasar" from the horror-movie "The Keep."
Then it's possible he was the inspiration for Hordak also. Hey, 2 James Bond villains, Jaws and Tee Hee were the inspiration for Trap Jaw!
@@19zach75 cool that the keep had Magneto in it!
Is there a trade paper back with this story
DC has yet to offer one. Let them know if you want this!
Good story it should be put into a omnibus.
I agree!
Also why is hordak blue in the she-ra cartoon but the toy’s limbs are grey
I always saw his design as rather vampiric. There's even the red bat motif...But a tiki mask?! I don't see it.
You really should put out a "Guide to Working in the Toy Industry" Book📚, where your knowledge is broken up into Chapters. I'm new to you channel "Begins kicking himself" and I'm playing catch up on your videos, you make it easy to find the topic your looking for but I know I've missed answers to my questions that you have already answered in a previous video, I just seen a video or comments referring to "Ideas" and why toy companies don't rush in to hear everyone's ideas do to the possibility of that idea already being in the works and accidentally being accused of stealing someone's idea when in fact that wasn't the case at all" I didn't think of that and I totally see why that rule is a rule and I like how companies have a certain section just for that situation where one can speak about a idea with a toy company without being worried about the subject biting them in the long run. I think I mentioned two ideas in a couple of our comments so sorry for doing that but you have my word those two ideas are anyone's now free and I will try not to blabber to much in that topic lol" but back to the subject, just like that topic, a Guide Book where someone like myself and others could use to research topics like that would be awesome especially in this field where there aren't many and Books will always be better then a search engine especially if the power goes out. I don't think you know how important your videos are to collectors and those who have ideas 24/7, your videos are beyond informative especially knowing that you worked and had a Direct influence on a successful Toyline as with HE-MAN, so please do us all a even BIGGER FAVOR and find a publisher and get to work on your book about the In and Out's of the toy industry, if it isn't on the best sellers list after the first week of release I will personally eat Ram Mans Hat.
Oh working on it!
@@spectorcreative1872 Awesome I look forward to buying it.
I was always a Skeletor stan, but Hordak was cool too.
They do mix well
Is all this Classic's canon? I didn't know the beginning. I thought horde prime was a part of the unnamed one and Hordak an apprentice of an old magician from Etheria.
Yes
This is different than the original. I have all the he-man episodes and seen most she-ra but I guess the story has evolved over time.
Oh yes, Classics added a lot
I would really love to see the Masters of the Universe in the Netflix She-ra. I loved that Netflix show and the way they portraitied the Princess of Power. great video! ^^/
Alas, see here:
ruclips.net/video/BLiogQTyIAI/видео.html
thanks! ❤
I feel like I missed that last mini-comic. I'll have to go back through and look through my collection. I don't remember anything about the Horde Papa either. I actually managed to get an extra Dispara and I had an Extra Adora, so I took Adora's head, hands and gun belt and swapped them with Dispara to create my own Ultimate Force Captain Adora. She looks really good too IMO.
One of my favorite figs that I didn't work on!
Did Horde Prime dip She-Ra in the Slime Pit?
Nope. Horak just raised her and Shadow Weaver kept her from remembering.
Your probably the only kid getting gifts on arbor day 🤣 really interesting video👍👍
Well how do you celebrate Arbor day?
@@spectorcreative1872 I'm not going to lie, I don't lol. When I was a kid our school planted trees, but not since elementary school have I even noticed it was arbor day till the day of or after. 🤣
i love skeletor !!!
We all do
This makes think of why the new Star Wars trilogy just didnt work for me. First they introduced Snoke and Kylo Ren, who just are not as intimidating as Darth Vader and Darth Sidious. And then they tried to reintroduce Sidious. They choose poorly. Yeah, they should have scalled the threat level up, like they did in the He-man universe. What is more frightening than Skeletor? Skeletors master: Hordak. So what the New Star Wars Trilogy should have done, was either introduce a bigger extradimensional threat, that threatens both the Empire and the New Republic. Or they should have introduced a more frightening Sith than the Emperor.... like THE Sith, the first Sith. Who is an eternal. That could have been better than what we got. But then again: it would still have failed with Rey, the most perfect, and thereby uninteresting hero ever put on the silverscreen.
Well maybe it is true (the rumor) that the new SW movies will be retconned out of existence with time travel or something
We can hope
@@spectorcreative1872 we could only hope...
i really think this is where mortalkombat got quan chi from...
Likely.
Nice
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Convoluted just only starts to explain it…
And never stops
Are these stories in comics and if they are, where can I find them?
They are in the MOTUC mini comics and the package bios. DC has not reprinted them yet. Let them know if you want them to!
@@spectorcreative1872 tell me how to contact them and I will! I bought and love the collected mini comics from the original run inn80s and 90s. I also got the newspaper collected works as well
A lot different from the toons, all I know of MOTU comes from them. I see Keith Giffen and Dan Abnett actually took a lot of inspiration from the toy lines for their 2012-2014 Masters of the Universe run in DC Comics.
And a lot of this came from the 200X series! Dean and Ian deserve the credit
@@spectorcreative1872 Information doesn't present itself. Very nice video, I'll be subscribing. 😁
The aforementioned comic book series also included something about the "Eyes of Grayskull" being two super weapons that can control time and space. I believe that was original content to that rendition only, but I thought a Castle Grayskull with insertable "Cosmic Eyes" would make a neat toy.
They also turned The Sorceress into just one avatar of The Goddess (Or whatever MOTU calls its creation myth), with Teela becoming a Snake Man style avatar of Serpos (An aspect of The Goddess), and Evil Lynn an avatar of Barbatos (Another aspect, that seeked universal destruction).
It was almost like the comic book writers were pushing fan ideas for toys. :)
what comics are shown in this video
The MOTUC mini comics issues 1-8
I've thought of a good death battle idea She Ra vs Xena Warrior.
there is also cross over story ideas I feel have potential to be movies or shows on television in a series. Masters Of The Universe was good a sequel was mentioned however it never happened.
I believe the sequel that could have bern would have revealed Hordac and Skeletor how they knew each other.
also it would have shown the separation of Prince Adam and Princess Adora.
but Hordac and the origin of the Hord can be told in a new storyline.
because there are secrets which have not been looked at or talked about.
I have wanted to know Orcos life his past and who his people are.
Shadow Weaver is another mystery like so many other characters in that world.
I think Adora being taken away from her family makes a good story.
it shows that Adora could have been with the Hord also opens up some new What If stories. letting us know different outcomes and not having the good heroes win all of the time we need that.
if there are any more ideas I would like to read up on thoughs.
A lot of this is actually covered in issue 4 of the comics!
Gotta ask, have the MOTUC mini comics ever been collected in a trade what can be got at retail?
Alas no. But let DC know this is something you would like to see!
@@spectorcreative1872 I hear it. May I ask what you think is the best channel by which to send a letter?
the story is Looking like Mass Effect