What Happened to She-Ra
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From Masters of the Universe to Netflix, She-Ra has seen a massive change from when she was first created. I want to take a dive into her history and really look at where the Netflix series took the character.
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I LOVE SHERA
✨Adora can pile drive me any day✨
1:12:43 2002 He man explain better the sword and an chosen sistem. Is a worth watch
Hello there negative can you tell me what happened to Max Steel and Pacman and the ghostly adventures or Action man or Savage dragon?
I’m pretty sure Razz just experiences time non-linearly. I believe this because she mentions Adora to Mara and is clearly confused when she goes back.
the statement that I go with is Razz is a living paradox
Yes, also Stevenson said that Razz stopped experiencing time loops once Adora broke the sword.
@@athena3268 dang didn’t know he said that
There were even theories where Razz might actually be Angela who got sent back in time.
I loved Razz as it was basically Dimensional/Temporal Dementia.
I know you didn’t point out Glimmer’s character growth too much in this video, but I always felt like her progression in the series was the perfect foil to Catra. Glimmer and Catra both made awful decisions as young teens who gain a lot of power. The scene with the two of them talking on Hordak’s ship felt like the climax of both of their arcs and made me realize how similar they are. And once Glimmer could be forgiven, it made it easier to forgive Catra as well, even if she was on the wrong side of the war for so long.
I agree I personally love glimmer arch....
I know right? They are the perfect parallels to each other.
Agreed
YES
Thank you
I hate people who hate glimmer, if you love catra u have no right to downright loathe glimmer
You missed the way they foreshadowed Micah not actually being dead when Angela says her goodbyes, because as she leaves he seems to remember and tries to tell her that he's on Beast Island. None of my friends believed me when I told them that after S3 lol.
Omg yes! I noticed tht while rewatching with my boyfriend, it was a super nice touch!
I did not notice that! nice catch on the detail 😭 I wouldn’t have known if I didn’t see this comment lol
I caught that on my first watch! And then immediately started sobbing once Angella sacrificed herself because they would never be able to be together.
@@cami_cosmos Oh god same, I was so heartbroken!
i saw it the first time it was so sad
Entrapta makes sense if you look at her as heavily neurodivergent-coded. She's moved on from the "betrayal" of her friends back to her hyperfixation of First Ones tech
I just kind of assumed everyone would read her that way. She reads pretty transparently as someone with autism/ADHD and low (but not non-existent!) empathy. She does care about people, but she doesn't really understand the things they feel or why they feel them, nor is she particularly good at understanding her own emotions.
She's canonically autistic, actually!!! :D
according to a random wiki I found, Entrapta was written to be autistic. One of the writers was/is, herself, on the spectrum and wanted to show that representation in the show.
they didn't manage to execute the neurodivergent-coding very well which is something that really bothers me. I love Entrapta though.
@@dragon1130 Entrapta is some of the best autistic representation in media ever. I have autism too and they perfectly capture the concepts of hyperfixation and not being able to understand others emotions.
I normally don't like the trope of "I love you" saving the day, but for She-Ra, it was a well earned resolution.
Besides, it represents the climax to both Adora's and Catra's arc, one not being able to love and the other one thinking she didn't diserve to be loved
It's because their relationship was so strong and it was just special. They grew up in a place where Love was seen as a weakness and the thought of loving never crossed their minds. They didn't know what it was, that being said they probably have loved each other even when they were young but didn't realise.
Now that they're older they realise that wanting to have someone around, needing them, wanting to be close to them and feeling like all is lost without that person is _love_. The admiration and feeling like it's destiny to be united. Quite literally the universe was trying to keep them apart but in reality they were the ones keeping it together.
Where's queen Angela?
@@alejandrocervantes3624 in a pocket dimension
Probably because it tied there arcs to a logical conclusion, Catra had to learn to show love and that affection wasn't a sign of weakness, and Adora's character arc is about understanding that she's worthy of love and more than how others can use her. It works really well with the characters and makes sense
The queer prom motif is absolutely due to Molly Ostertag being a writer for the prom episodes of both She-Ra and Owl House. She’s the common denominator there. I like to think she’s giving queer people the gay prom we all deserve since a decent amount of us were not out for our own proms.
SHE ALSO WROTE A SERIES CALLED THE WITCH BOY SERIES GO READ IT
RIGHT 🤍
didnt realize she wrote the owl house prom episode. also considering queer kids are still being banned from prom for wearing the wrong clothes or bring their partner as a date i salute her.
@@lucanusafrost And Girl from the Sea!
Honestly I couldn't care less about queerness and representation, but damn Catra looked sharp in that suit.
I know it's kinda weird to comment on someone's appearance in a video, but i think you nailed whatever look you were going for
Only time I've done that was for Izzy's videos
Are they a woman or a man i dont understand. Im new
@@alessandroalpacino9707 yes
@@alessandroalpacino9707 they have a nonbinary sticker on their microphone so i would guess that thay are nonbinary but im not sure
They go by any pronouns as stated in their social media accounts. And she is nonbinary
“Cough in my face, i want to catch the princess” is probably the greatest sentence ever said in the history of mankind.
“No, no, cough in Bow’s face.”
@@imdoingfine_ yes! He deserves the princess.
@@gailasprey7787 he is already?
I actually empathize with everybody that Catra hurts. I dated someone with a lot of issues like Catra and she took out all of her anger out on me just like Catra did to Scorpia. I feel like Scorpia deserved so much better and it just hurts me inside.
Catra is an abuser and she deserves to change but far from her victims. She needs a fresh start far from Adora, Scorpia and her other victims. Abusers tend to fall into old and familiar habits if they stay with people they have a history abusing, so yeah, Catradora is horrible and Scorpia deserved better than to forgive Catra who didnt even apologize to her
She did! She did end up with Perfuma, though, so that’s good. I wish she would have seen earlier that not only did Catra not feel the same way, but that Catra truly didn’t care at all about her.
@@IsThisUsernameAvailable chill its just a cartoon ship
Catra is a child abuse victim who kept being abused as a teenager by Hordak and Shadow Weaver of course she lashed out, she is a better person now
@@IsThisUsernameAvailable they are kids not monsters, chill. Community and love heals, not isolation.
“Except Hordak, he’s really the only one who’s not complex”
Season 3 Hordak: hold my character development-
This XD
Only downsides of this video:
1. No talk about Scorpia’s singing
2. We didn’t talk about that episode with Kyle Rogelio and Lonnie in the forest
Also referring to Catra and Adora as sisters
How do most people think about Scorpia singing? I get major second-hand embarrassment but maybe that’s just me
@@sashannesupremacy It's definitely not just you, but I'm very susceptible to second-hand embarrassment.
My only real gripe is that Hordak is far better than Negative seemed to think he was. In my opinion, at least. I will admit to "The Empire was Right" bias, which has made me root for basically any Vader lookalike and also be on the side of "bad guys" by default rather than support the "good guys", but I was honestly leaning more towards the Hoard's side when I was watching.
Also, I stand by the opinion that Adora's a Villain Protagonist. She never truly left the Hoard and only had a problem with the destruction it was causing. Furthermore, the Hoard itself is a Villain Protagonist, to the point where basically everyone on Etheria was a protagonist, especially when Big Brother came and suddenly it's "Everyone v Lord Prime". When the creators put so much effort into making the villains likable, give them so much downtime screentime, and developed them so deeply, it's hard-to-impossible to hate them. Except Shadow Weaver and Hoard Prime. They can burn in Hell.
@@bluesbest1 you have a point
Fun fact Kyle lonnie and Rogelio are in a polymarous relashionship according to noelle
As a person with an emotionally abusive mother I like catra's character a lot because she's real with how she reacts to the about, she becomes toxic and self destructive. The show doesn't glamorize her abuse and trauma but it also doesn't demonize her, she didn't magically become good because the show demanded it, she became 'good' because she wanted to, confronting her toxic behaviour, standing up against her abusers, having a support group and trying.
Also I love how that pet she gets acts like a therapy pet and a representation of her emotions
I adore how when she chooses to leave again she finally has someone to physically stop her from making another mistake
I don’t think Season 5 was Catra’s full redemption. Just the start of it. Most of Season 5 was focused on mentally healing which is great honestly.
@@wobblezapper2374 Which is cool but I dislike that this start of redemption immediately gets accompanied by the romantic relationship between her and someone she routinely abused for years.
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 Your right, she should’ve had some more time by herself to work on her. A relationship wouldn’t be good immediately, I’m not a psychologist but Catra needs more time to get better, AND APOLOGIZE TO SCORPIA AND EVERYONE ELSE SHE HURT
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 I feel like abuse and being on different sides of a war are different things
Adora is like a golden retriever.
Stronk.
Loyal.
Tries her best.
Sometimes dumb af.
So she’s my dog? 😂
that’s me in a nutshell i’m a golden retriever like adora and look like her weirdly i even do the same hair style it’s scary tbh
Blonde
@@everyonegetselfears1444 i mean how else would u describe her (ps is ur username a pjo reference :D)
Definitely sometimes dumb af
I get the chills whenever i see catra's "I'm sorry", especially because she herself established that she would never apologize
I know what you mean it’s the “I’m sorry”that makes it such an impactful scene for me as well
I’m not sure if you noticed but if you go back to the scene where Angela is all like “Glimmer needs me” you hear Micah tell her he’s not dead. I think the line is “wait, Angie, Angela I’m not-“ and then he gets eaten by the universe collapsing.
It's such subtle but great foreshadowing
@@wafflebean9828yeah, I noticed after watching for the 5th time😂😂😂
Micah was teased to still be alive during the reality altering portal stuff, as when Angela was saying goodbye to him as just a "memory", he suddenly realised what was going on and called for her to wait
I NOTICED THAT AND I DIED INSIDE WAHHHH😭😭😭
A bit of a correction, She-ra was made because of the popularity of He-man with girls specifically Teela. But there was one problem they couldn't make money off of it since the toy line was aimed at boys. Thus the idea to make a show and toy line specifically aimed at girls was born. This basically created the American magical girl market.
Also I wouldn't say that the Netflix adaptation was popular with fans of the original She-ra.
@@nenakarra2579 1. Kevin Smith dug his own grave and the backlash against him was what he created by being toxic himself.
2. All of the ones I've across don't care for it. But they don't really care for Twitter either especially after they attacked that kid for liking the original.
It's an okay series of it's own right. But as someone who grew up with she ra the origional I feel more connected to that series than this one.
Sad to see how they fucked up the original for some sjw feminist anime version of it.
@@cia1985 What exactly is SJW of the remake? The LGBTQ rep? We've always existed lmfao, I hate it when people act like we're a new thing created for wokeness. We're not. We're people, and we like to see people like us in media. I personally thought the OG show was boring, I love the new one especially bc it's one of the only kids shows with lesbian protagonists, which would have definitely helped me realize who I was if I'd seen it as a kid, but I respect that everyone has different tastes. They didn't do anything to the original - they're two different shows.
Considering that the creators of the new show cept calling the old fans manchildren and sexists to the point that the original VO for She-Ra came in and told them to chill, makes sense why it was not popular with the fans.
I watched She-ra with my siblings
My older sister(19-20 when we watched) literally screamed at the kiss from excitement, she got used to not seeing gay characters not be confirmed like that
My little brother(7-8) liked the show cuz of the action and he didn’t really mind the romance but he thought it was “good for them:0”
Ur sister is 19-20and watches that with u:00 omg my sister would have been like: :/ she's the same age
@@Cosmo_1128 im 19 and i was so happy when any not straight character showed up/ showed to be in a same sex relationship. I couldnt contain my happines tbh.
Two based siblings.
"These bitches gay! Good for them. Good for them."
I love how darn on the nose "light spinner" and "shadow weaver" are as names. Similar concept, except one is pretty sounding and the other is spooky. It fits so well with all the other names in the show just being a modified version of a word that encompasses the character.
Glimmer glimmer powers
Bow archer
Seahawk sea captain
Mermista mermaid princes
@@DishonorableMentions452Catra is a cat
@@Ck87JF woah
@@Ck87JFentrapta makes traps, perfuma does plant things, netossa tosses nets, frosta does frost things
wait till you realize the reason behind the sorceress Castaspella’s name
Bow being a princess is everything we all needed
Fr and how did no one notice your comment 😂
The reason Catra had trouble ajusting to being with Adora and Glimmer and Bow and Entrapta on the ship was because she wasn’t ready to see herself as redeemed. She never considered herself redeemable, which was why she was adamant that she sacrificed herself to save Glimmer. Shadow Weaver, on the other hand, never wanted any sort of redemption but also was not ever conflicted about her morality. Shadow Weaver only really sought power or revenge, and her death isn’t really a redemption like Catra’s would have been.
Shadow Weaver: even in the end she was traumatizing people.
The She-Ra reboot single handedly carried my entire summer in 2020 😭
There's also rumors of a live action developed by Amazon Prime that has no relation to the Netflix version, are you guys interested in watching it if it comes out? (no pun intended-) If it doesn't come out, blame Kyle.
Same. It was the second show we watched during that summer trying to fight boredom. Along Infinity Train and digimon Tamers. Good times.
The amazon prime one is supposed to resemble the original not the reboot so Ig it'll be real different. Don't expect them to do what Netflix did cause that can create a legal battle for copyright
I'll watch it and look forward to it! I love Shera and have been open to the different iterations of her through the yrars!
I feel kinda left out cuz I only watched the show this year😭but I got rly hooked up in the series and now is definitely one of my fav shows
Omg can people pls just let cartoons be cartoons
Honestly the only way I’d accept a live action She-Ra is if they go full Xena. Just full cheesy fun action nonsense.
"The first episodes were not the best episode."
I think we can all agree on that.
And unfortunately, no second chances at first impressions
I remember starting it way before it blew up and getting bored and dropped it after the first ep. It got way better as it went
I thought they were great personally, but I watched it after all the hype died down and wasn’t expecting much since I was completely unfamiliar with the original. I thought it was a great setup for a fun girly magic time, and then as the series went on I was like ‘wait hold up this is actually amazing’ lol.
I started to watch it when the last season just came out but I am not sure about other people but I LOVED the first episodes
@@powergamer2593 yeah, first episodes are great. At least the first two are, I’m kind of impressed by this comment jaja
I liked the she ra ending a lot. Adora always saw herself as a hero bc other people told her that. Shadow Walker told her that she's a hero and responsible for everyone's mistakes, mainly catra's. The Kingdoms people view her as a weapon, the lost civilisation does and even she does. When she loses her powers she loses a part of herself. She blames herself for it. Later she tries to sacrifice herself, as a hero would, and Catra begs her to not do that. Catra loves her and can't stand Adora destroying herself. Adora is told that she shouldn't just act like others want her to act, but instead also perusing what she wants to persue.
Am I the only one that’s wants to know more about Scorpia and her people? Cause if I remember correctly when Scorpia went to to the ruins of her kingdom with Emily there was a ruin with a Scorpion on it and when Emily pointed it out, Scorpia got uncomfortable.🤔
It’s implied the horde killed them in Light Spinner
Also the first ones,did the show just leave them as ambiguous and up to the viewers to theorize about? Something in season 3 actually gave me the idea that the 'first ones' are actually human civilisation thousands of years into the future but I can't remember what gave me that idea
@@fruity4820 The first ones are Eternians who arrived on Etheria in the distant past and turned the planet into a bomb. Eternia is the planet from He-man
@@fruity4820 I'm confused on why they're called the First Ones when it's implied humans were already on Etheria before them and that humans on modern day Etheria don't even seem to be related to them. To put this in American terms, it would be like if a white guy claimed that his ancestors were from the Kingdom of Dahomey.
One thing this show lacks: more Kyle, Rogelio and Lonnie. I wish we would see more of their polycule relationship at least in the end
Some people noticed how there was more beef between Lonnie and Catra. During S5, Catra had her interactions with the princesses and tried to help them. So after the finale with the Horde gone, I'm wondering how Catra could get along with the three.
Their whole relationship is the most forced and toxic afterthought of a relationship I have ever seen! Lonnie and Rogelio do nothing but pick on and use Kyle as a scapegoat/punching bag. Lonnie and Kyle can't and don't try to understand anything Rogelio says so they just ignore him. And Rogelio and Kyle just.....do what Lonnie says. Like....how is that good for ANYONE?
GUYS! They dont have a relationship. This was just Noelles headcanon, but it isnt canon to the show. Rogelio and Kyle on the other hand are confirmed
@@xfabian21 Noelle *is* the creator of the show and most the characters tho. So I'd say the headcanon of the creator is canon. Just my opinion, don't quote me on that.
@@little0legend but like we've never seen them romantically involved in the show. Kyle and Rogelio are seen blushing and holding hands. (also they adopted the demon child)
In regards to She-Ra as a Magical Protector, what I got from the series is that She-ra is like the Spirit of Aetheria. Not really a protector of the universe but specifically that planet as a kind of combined power of all the magic in the planet. She-ra never had anything to do with the First Ones until they found the planet and created the sword to basically steal the power of She-Ra for their Superweapon. Magic existed on the planet before, First Ones just added all the tech parts to make it "magitek" presumably because that's the only way they could control the magic.
Exactly, Razz even spelled that part out.
It does make you wonder why only first ones are She-Ra. Like when the first ones created the sword did that just permanently identify a first one as the designee for the power, and the planet was just like "well this works" from that point on. And even though we never touch on it because they wanted this to be its own standalone series assuming that the background lore from he-man is the same, does Adora being the descendant of King Grayskull have anything to do with it. Just the fact that Adora is the first She-Ra in like A thousand years kind of implies that an eternian has to be She-Ra
@@noremac7216 it's not only First Ones who are She Ra. Razz told Mara "She Ra existed way before your people came here"
@@athena3268 yeah but every shera we've seen was the first one and during the thousand years when there were no first ones on etherea there was also no Shera. I'm aware of the power comes from aetheria I'm just saying it seems like when the first ones created the sword using a runestone they seem to permanently designate one of their own kind as She-Ra from that point on
@@noremac7216 the reason there was no She-Ra in a thousand years was because the First Ones had harnessed her in the sword until it was broken.
Okay but Catra knew the whole time in season 3 that she wasn't in the right reality but wanted to live in the dream and it parallels really well with what Angela does. Angela gives up the dream but Catra cant.
She might've started to become aware, and repressing it. but it isn't until the forrest that she actually remembers everything.
i’ve always wished they showed more of adora’s life with the horde before she left, especially her fighting in their army. more of her and catra’s friendship would’ve been nice too. that way, when she does leave for bright moon, it’s way more impactful and makes her transition to the rebellion more interesting. instead it feels like they just jumped right in and tried to give us a bunch of flashback scenes to make up for it.
I actually loved Gimmer in s4. It really cemented her as my favorite character along with Catra. I was actually all for the conflict between Glimmer, Adora, and Bow.
I hated glimmer in that part, but I was ok for her idea about treatening the hode guards, but the way she treated ger friends was horrible. I really liked her redemption so it's all for good in the end
@@amity_mittens_blight yes, exactly. I wouldn't say I agree with everything she's done but I loved to see her inner conflict and display her arguably worst traits. I love stubborn and headstrong Glimmer but that season shows the danger of her going too far with her once admired traits. It's nice to see her go dark and come back from that with a learned lesson to find balance and listen to others.
@@shakirav8981 yes, yes, yes, I agree
aEhEm
Double Trouble
THIS!!
Negative’s character arc in this video is everything.
I've seen a lot of people complain about how awful Glimmer is in later seasons, and how she just becomes a horrible person. But imo, personally, I think it has a lot to do with the loss of her mother. While it isn't an excuse, it could be an explanation. Not to mention the world literally falling apart while she has to deal with that grief. I honestly feel for Glimmer a lot. It must be really difficult to have to take on the role of queen after losing a mom. Not just in her coronation episode, but in every episode afterwards, especially when she lashes out at her friends.
Also to your Question: Why a Failsafe for a Superweapon.
Well, two options:
Number one: The First ones bilt the Failsafe in case the Superweapon in any way malfunctions. It _is_ a Superweapon. You don't want it blowing up in your face.
Number two: The _Rebels_ built the Failsafe, without the rest of the First ones knowing.
Either way, Failsafe makes perfect sense to me
i want a prequel with mara so baddddd! i also want to know more about the 1st one, their whole world , ideals , etc. hoping someday netflix will consider this
I want a spinoff (?) with Adam/He-Man too
@@Quinhala11 YAS !!!
YES OMG THIS
@@Quinhala11 maybe a she-ra/ he-man crossover?
One of my gripes with the show is that Adora practically unlearned all of her brainwashing in the Horde so easily (even in the original show, I think, but it’s been such a long time since I’ve binged). It would be so interesting to see how Adora’s brainwashing conflicts with her She-Ra abilities and her questioning if she even deserves them in the first place. I did also miss Adam, but that was something I could look past (but seeing someone who made Adora feel the way she made Catra feel would have also been interesting!)
Isn’t that like all of season 5 tho ?
Catra and shadow weever cause adora to not access her powers properly
Adora has a very strong moral compass to the point of self sacrifice so i think thats why she unlearned the hordes brainwashing so easily
eh, I wouldn't say she unlearned her brainwashing. She moves on from "etherians bad" real quick, I agree-but her childhood programming stays with her for the entire show. Having to be perfect, thinking she's worthless if she doesn't make mistakes, feeling responsible for other people is all things she picked up from the horde.
@@marwansobhy7050 so true
Honestly, as much as so many people on the internet will critique it, there really hasn't been a show that gave such a satisfying ending in a while, and I can't help but love the show.
Gonna be honest, I never shipped the characters (except for like, Mermista and Sea Hawk) but I also never saw Adora and Catra as sisters. I also have a warped sense of pacing so I enjoyed S5 quite a bit and really didn’t have any griefs over it. I actually really enjoyed the whole show and started watching it right when it came out, hooking on and waiting for seasons and binging them. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I don’t mind the ships at all, so it’s not really a big deal to me how they turned out (though I did freak out a bit when Adora and Catra kissed, since I wasn’t expecting that *at all.* But yeah, I really didn’t have any problems with it personally.
wow did i make this comment bc ive said all of this before 😭😭😭
Big same. Though I only recently watched the show this year, so I was somewhat expecting them to get together given all the ship fanart and the overarching gradual redemption arc chemistry going on. But yeah I could’ve had it either way and be fine, and I definitely didn’t see them as sisters.
Huh, I wasn't surprised with the Catra/Adora thing at all, I thought the show went through quite a lot of effort to imply there was something there.
@@hannessteffenhagen61
Yeahhhh I’m just kinda blind and also, I really wasn’t expecting representation in a show to be honest. But it was mostly me being blind ngl.
@@sleepdeprived_inc. Ah fair, am used to quite a bit of gay baiting, but given they already had several open gay couple s, several more characters implied to be gay or bisexual, and not even an attempt at a romantic subplot with Adora and any of the... two regular male characters (if you don't count the horse)...
4:03 S1
25:34 S2
37:57 S3
48:31 S4
1:04:44 S5
The part where Light Hope goes “Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t do it. Don’t… Do it.” it gives me chills 😩
I think she-ra is kinda like the avatar, when one incarnation dies there’s some magical natural process that chooses the next one. The sword is only a tool to channel her power and kinda build up magic within it and makes it easier to use the magic and was manufactured by the first ones to control she-ra, possibly making the she-ra think she is dependent on the sword like adora does at first and in a way limiting she-ra. Maybe originally the universe was more connected or something and she-ra did protect the entire universe instead of just etheria but the first ones were greedy
I think the sword was designed to channel She-Ra’s powers so that the host wouldn’t learn to use them naturally and would become reliant on the sword like we see with Adora, as well as adding a physical component to the weapon activation (good ol’ two-factor identification). But I also have a theory that it somehow forced She-Ra to choose a host from the First Ones race, because otherwise there should have been other She-Ra’s incarnated before Adora came through the portal
I know I think the exact same thing and wish a video would be made about it
@@ThriftyFangirlbut adora had magic when she was a baby
(EDIT: before yall kill each other in the comments, I don't think Catra is fully redeemed yet, but she is making an effort , which is a great start. As I've said, she has a long way to go, but the progress she is making shouldn't be undermined either.
I highly recommend watching *Five by Five Take's* She-Ra analysis videos, particularly the ones on Corridors, and Score Appreciation, as it highlights the pinnacle of great writing in the show imo.)
Though I admit the overall story with Etheria, First Ones, She-Ra, and Prime are a bit confusing; where the show really shines most is the characters and the complex relationships they have with each other (and the audience).
I love how the show explores dynamics between characters, and why they do the things they do. I am especially awed at how they wrote Adora, how they addressed the "chosen one" trope and made her relatable. She's not just some badass hero, she's more than that--- she's human, with her own struggles and her own flaws.
Even Angela had her time to shine. The parallels established between Angela, Glimmer and Shadow Weaver, Adora, and Catra were masterfully done imo.
Catra though, is my favorite. I love how they had her descend further and further into darkness; but at the same time, you could see that she's a good person that's been hurt time and time again and needs help accepting help. She was a child, and not every child thats been abused grows up knowing better. She had to realize for herself that she was wrong, she had to admit it to herself that what she was doing, no matter how hurt she was or no matter how much she wanted to be useful, wasn't right. She was hurting those she desperately craved. In the end, she made the same decision that Adora did at the very first episode. She recognized her errors and strived to do better, even at the cost of herself. When the show ended, it wasn't the end of her redemption. She still had a lot of making up to do and will continue to for the rest of her life, but saving Etheria was a good start.
In the end, this is a show about Choices. A show about light and dark Corridors. Hordak was banished, but he chose to rule Etheria in a desperate hope for approval. Shadow Weaver chose to meddle with dark magic, she chose the Horde, she chose to be cruel and manipulate literal children. Angela chose to protect her own children, even at the cost of her life and being at odds with Glimmer for years. Adora chose to leave, she chose to go against what everyone else wanted her to be, she chose to fight for herself. Catra chose to stay, to fight for herself at the cost of others, then, she chose to fight for the one who always believed in her, she fought for her own happiness, not survival.
We are a product of our choices, not our circumstances.
I liked the lore of the first ones and horde prime.
That's because of copyright. They had to be vague about He-Man lore (castle Grayskull, Eternia) because He-Man lore is owned by different rights holders.
Toxic Lesbian relationships. Yay…
@@Polychi1998 cry about it lol
To me Catra's redemption didn't really feel all that earned and felt incredibly rushed. She seemed more bent on wallowing in her self-hatred and belief that everyone around her hated her than really trying to change, and while that got a bit better as time went on, it still felt rushed to me. She was an sympathetic and complex character, but ultimately frustrating and difficult to watch. At least for me - I acknowledge my bias as someone who has an abuser who is similar to Catra in that they were just cruel to everyone around them (including me) because of their own internal issues. Catra is always towing the line between 'she doesn't really know how else to act because of the abuse she's suffered' and 'her being an abuse survivor doesn't justify or make sympathetic some of her more horrible actions' (like literally being responsible for Glimmer's mother's death and trying to harm or kill Adora constantly). By the time we get to Catra's redemption, it's hard for me to sympathise with her, she treats absolutely everyone like shit, and the time they give for her to grow and change is so little, it just doesn't feel satisfying. It's honestly the main reason I will never rewatch the show. Catra is too frustrating and triggering of a character.
Stevenson: "I think telling a lesbian romance is not the same story as telling a straight romance. The dynamics are very different and it's not something that I think can fit into the classic, straight romance archetype. Early on, when we weren't able to be open about the nature of these characters' relationships or what the story was, we just kept getting branded with the word "sisters." As any woman who loves women knows, it's something that's very hurtful that comes up a lot. Straight people have trouble wrapping their heads around the nature of a lesbian or Sapphic relationship in any way. It's like "oh these two women have very strong feelings for each other," I'm going to translate that through the lens of sisterhood because that's what I understand. Letting that happen or think that's how these two characters can have that intense connection, this level of caring about each other, that's the easiest way to get it to that point where that relationship has the weight it needs to have."
So she says this and yet she thinks it's a good idea to have the two characters raised by the same person who had a parental influence by both throughout childhood? Also how ironic that she states straight and lesbian relationships are different when the main lesbian ship in her show fits the toxic straight relationship archetype.
@@Lemoncakelover678 Well I'm sure they have them have the same parental figure to explore this very dynamic that they mention. Also, they say they are different from straight relationships, because of how lesbian relationships are perceived as sisterly not because straight relationships are toxic and lesbian ones are not. By saying the show "fits the toxic straight relationship archetype" you are erasing actual WlW relationship experiences that can very well be toxic and complicated. I honestly could relate to Catra and Adora's stories and dynamic, and it helped me process a very toxic (non-straight) breakup with someone more then any straight romance could. Noelle does a very good job at exploring how one's childhood trauma can impact the people and relationships around you, which isn't a "straight relationship archetype" in anyway, but a human one that we all can experience.
@@Lemoncakelover678 lmao how is it toxic
And yet, her lesbian romance was exactly like a straight romance. Weird how that works isn’t it. Just as toxic
@@BabyGirlTiny it wasn’t toxic
i agree with she-ra being an almost perfect show. the only issue i have is how clunky the plot feels at times. when the princess were being recruited in season 1, it was always at the third try thay they got them. in season 5, you could tell they were cramming in as much of catra's redemption arc and best friend squad moments as they possibly could, so the finale could make sense. i feel that could have been better handled, but there's also production and direction issues that have an effect on that. overall, the show really shines with it's characters and connectivity, to the point the plot feels like it's just enough to serve the themes stevenson wanted to convey (cycles of abuse, healing, love, etc, etc). every aspect of the narrative serves it's purposes well or perfect. it's feels very polished, which is sadly rare.
please cover the dragon prince if you want! it's very, very good!!
problems with nextflix wanting a required amount of seasons and then saying "this has to be the last one".
ya know, that kind of shit. Most of season 2 was made for the sole reason as to fill space
I do agree there could've been a bit more time, but I think when tracking Catra's mindset throughout the seasons, it led up to the turn in "Corridors" pretty well, even if would've been nice to see more reconnecting with the group. Thematically though, I think the show was incredibly tight in tying together the purpose everyone and everything had in it.
I agree abt the pacing tbh. Of course season 2 and three were all just one season which it was annoying that that got split. But also I kinda wish season 5 was split into separate seasons with the same standard number of episodes to better explore some of that character development. Again though Netflix is kinda unreasonable with production half the time.
5th season was clearly Natflix pulling the plug and the writers trying to cram everything they wanted to achieve into one season. You can feel it on your skin that everything moves way too fast and things don't get the space they need to develop.
@@frankieking6980 I think 26 episodes would’ve still been too much.
Maybe more like 15-18.
I think it’s pretty believable they got the 52 episode amount total, and despite what Akuma suggests, I think the time chosen was used for all the right things, even if more could’ve been in a couple places like Catra bonding with the gang. There’s enough there to buy into her redemption and how the show concludes, but it would’ve been nice to see more.
I always feel like catre gets a lot of bad rap for being a genuinely bad person for so long, but I always really liked it because it shows a realistic journey of someone coming to terms with their own bad behavior and making better choices to try and have a more peaceful life. I loved how they didn’t just redeem her though death at the end, she got to grow into a new person.
I think a lot of people hate her bc a lot of people also love her character
She's a great villain and everybody loves a great villain and if they get redeemed and get a super cute ending just got to love them more
@@edenisok894she literally almost destroyed the universe
I agree. I think that part of the problem is that Catra had such a good written descent into villainy over the first four seasons, that her redemption arc felt a bit rushed and underwhelming.
@@fogheaded3866 On the other hand she was the first to throw herself into oblivion, so it was meant to be murder suicide and that was after the good guys watched how her abusiv mother figure almost chocked the live out of her for not surrendering after given the most spiteful offer of mercy. And they stoped Shadowweaver because glimmer ran out of magic not because they had pity on Catra. The worst part is that had they not rushed into the fright zone Entrapta would've stoped the experiment and maybe Adora and Catra would talked about the actual reason for her anger. Ultimately giving Shadowweaver a second chance was a far greater risk than given Catra one.
Finished the video. And I just wanna say. The ending of she-ra made me cry. A lot. This show hits home so hard. And honestly, if it existed when I was younger, I would have accepted myself sooner. Things like She-ra are so important for queer youth and I am so happy with the ending. I honestly don’t know if anything can match how amazing an experience She-Ra was.
Maybe for queer acceptance but the main ship, catradora does send a message that being in a relationship with your abuser is okay which would make queer audiences be in those abusive relationships.
@@Lemoncakelover678 Nah its fiction. You should not look up to fictional characters. Homer and Marge are funny but I wouldn't want to be in Homer and Marge's relationship. You are supposed to take fiction with a gain of salt.
ah yes, it's important for young gay kids to learn that even if your supposed best friend continually abuses you, it's only because they secretly love you. This definitely won't contribute to any sort of problems later on in life
@@randomthoughts0829 You should never look up to fictional characters under any circumstances. Only idiots do that. You should look up to real people who have done good things. Also, anyone with a brain would know it's just a cartoon. I laugh at Wille E Coyote and I don't try to blow people up with dynamite.
@@icecreamhero2375 Children watch this show. Some children wouldn't know any better. Yes, the magic and tech are clearly not real in this show, but the realationships between the characters seem realistic-ish. Kids might already have someone being abusive towards them and then try to say everything was ok because they had "changed" While some older kids may get the memo, some have already been manipulated. To be fair, though, most kids will watch a cartoon and not overanilize it, or even remember it. So this might not even be a problem in the first place :p
I’d love to see you break down The Dragon Prince or Tales of Arcadia, two other fantastic animated Netflix series. The Owl House and Amphibia as well!
Yes!
I wish more people in general would talk about Tales of Arcadia
The Dragon Prince season 4 when???
@@Syndersis That's the real question, tbh
@@mikemorro140 yeah its great
Not to be controversial or anything, but if you look at Catra fitting the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder- she's pretty solidly locked in there.
Fits of explosive anger followed by intense fear of a "Favorite Person" abandoning/leaving them and further acting out because they're so stressed and afraid the person will leave. No sense of identity/self without Adora around, childhood trauma/neglect at Shadow Weaver's hand, and risky self-destructive behavior that comes from self-loathing and the want to feel something other than shame and guilt for hurt that may have been caused to others.
Catra acted horribly throughout, and saying she lines up with a disorder isn't me trying to say all her horrible actions should be excused.
But when looking at those actions, the framing of the show, with its almost explicit Narcissistic Parenting terminologies and tones in Catradora scenes with Shadow Weaver with Adora being the "Golden Child" and Catra being the "Scapegoat", it feels intentional.
Catra at the very beginning was basically "abandoned" by her favorite person Adora in the first couple of episodes, and she could have come with her in that moment- but we don't always make the right decisions or ones like "let's join the opposing side and abandon the only home we've ever known" in just a few moments on an active battlefield.
So then she was physically and mentally abused even worse from then on without Adora there to be Perfect and distract Shadow Weaver from it.
Shadow Weaver even admits she sees herself in Catra and that's why she hates her lmao, that's textbook Narcissist parent!!
From what I know about the creators of the show, I think these things were intentional. Recovering from a bad family can be a lifelong journey, one where you run the risk of being like the abuser if you're complacent, or having to take so much time to unlearn the survival mindset you've had to learn in order to survive in a place where you were treated badly. I give Catra a little more grace because of that.
It's important to note here that Borderline Personality Disorder is not necessarily a life-long condition: with compassion and a lot of working on oneself, one can "lose" the diagnosis.
I think these dynamics line up with the portrayal of complex relationships and developing emotional intelligence for younger people, and that She-Ra made a very creative step forward and has given some kids in unhappy situations the language or theory they need to even slightly start recognizing that they aren't the problem!!
If seeing any of what I said helps adjust your perspective on the series even a little bit, or makes you want to go back and listen for the terminologies themselves, then I'm content. Thanks!
Catra is a wonderful character for representation of mental health, particularly important with heavily stigmatized disorders like BPD. I wish I had grown up with something like this show. It would have made my own struggles much easier to see them portrayed in fiction in such a raw way, still having that hopeful happy ending.
@@IceFireofVoid Exacty. She is "broken" more often than she is stable, and her symptoms aren't pretty, but they are traceable and highlighted by the show itself. I understand that the way she treated Adora was unfair and cruel, but the whole point of the show is that Adora *loves* her and knows that she is capable of breaking the cycle. So when she finally doesn't seem to believe in Catra anymore, that's what causes her to change for the better. Because she can't let down the only person who cares about her, and she can't keep living off of spite and fear anymore.
Honestly, for me at least, Catra is still one of the most frustrating and difficult to watch character's even knowing this. She's sympathetic but also sometimes intensely abusive, and it honestly reminds me of an actual abuser I have. She's an extremely well-written character overall but I just can't get over how quickly her redemption happened and how fast her relationship with Adora was mended. Maybe Adora just has the support system and emotional health to forgive Catra, but that still doesn't really justify her seemingly getting into a romantic relationship with someone who literally tried to murder her and destroy her life multiple times only months prior to them getting together. I would absolutely never let an abuser that close to me so soon after their supposed redemption, and Catra still has a long way to go to unlearn a lot of her toxic behaviours. Like to me, as a kid who was abused, Catra's character was just triggering and made me feel like the actions of abusers can be easily swept udner the rug despite the fact that they've caused intense amounts of harm. Catra is never _really_ held accountable for a lot of the harm she caused. And all the people who should be genuinely hurt by her actions are for the most part over it. That would not be encoruaging or affirming to me as a kid who experienced abuse from people with unresolved trauma of their own.
stevenson actually has BPD themselves! so it probably was intentional
@@Lisa_Flowers i totally agree... it's kinda ridiculous how they went about it
Loved this! Quick note tho, Mica being alive was definitely set up. When Mica and Angela are talking at the end of 3, Angela says none of this is real, and that he's dead. When she flies away, Mica blinks like he's remembering something and reaches out to her and yells, "Wait, Angela, I'm not--" but then his part of reality is taken.
Glimmer is so well written, in that I hate her actions and behaviour in later seasons SO much, but her choices are very believable given her circumstances and character flaws
She -Ra was truly a wild, magical, intense, whirlwind of a show. Watching this video reminded/refueled my love and appreciation for this show.
Razz is a non-linear character.
She simply experiences time differentely from us "linears".
What I love is Hordak’s actor is the voice of Darius in Owl House. Love that. And I verbally went “Yes” when Catra and Adora kissed. It was just beautiful.
Oh shoot I didn’t know that Hordak is such a vibe and I didn’t say anything at the end I just sobbed hysterically😅😅
I clicked faster then catra could say "hey adora"
Yea no, u can't be that fast
That's impossible 💀
G O D I M P O S S I B L E
24:57 in that scene the princesses basically function as extension cords through which Shera channeled the power of the rune stones into her sword (the key to the planet) but I guess we can still call it the power of friendship.
"Extension cords"
underrated comment
You should've mentioned how Netossa literally told Glimmer that her weakness was her HUBRIS.
And how Netossa and Spinnerella are a blatant representation of Stevenson and their wife, Molly Knox Ostertag (i mean Netossa literally says "That's my wife!")
Aimee Carrero, AJ Michalka, Lorraine Toussaint, Lauren Elizabeth Ash, and Jordan Fisher are all in this series, AND I LOVE IT! We got princess Elena, Stevonnie, Dina Fox, and Holden Dippledorf!
I remember when I was younger and shera was new on Netflix my parents found me watching it and told me “don’t watch that it’s an adult show” so, I didn’t. Now a few years later I’ve watched all of it, kissed girls, and changed my gender. So much for “protecting” my mind.
honestly, this review of you doing she-ra really makes me want a review on what your thoughts were about Voltron and how that one crashed and burned
great video btw, the points you'd had made on catra and Adora's relationship and catra, in general, were just yes
They did voltron but better tbh, the same plot points and everything, but voltron just HAD to f up representation lmao
I kind of hope he looks at a Precure season sooner later, since he covered a few magical girl stuff at this point.
Please I can't take that pain
No but like- I NEED that video
@@Frostyblustar it was good, really good. But the last few seasons were just... bad. It’s like they were so crunched for time they had to cut a million corners.
(I personally think it was bad at 7-8, 6 was weak but not bad, and everything before that was good and enjoyable)
Actually Catra was PROTECTING Scorpia when she told her not to save her from jail. She said "they'll take you down with me".
Catra is strange, one minute she cares about you and the moment after she tries to kill you, then she cares again about you but can't stand by your side simply because no and run away. I really can't stand her
@@amity_mittens_blight she simply hates being vunurable that's why she protects Scorpia (in this instance) and Entrapta (warning her not to go to Hordak's sanctum after Hordak had CHOKED her) on season 2-3 by acting mean. On season 5 she's starting to be vunurable for the first time, now that she's away from that toxic, abusive environment she grew up in.
@@amity_mittens_blight get out of the toh fandom and unkin amity then babe, none of us want you there w that foul attitude ;)
@@amity_mittens_blight she has trauma and also is a cat, lmao so
@@amity_mittens_blight people with trauma tend to act the way like Catra acts. I did act same way but not anymore
I'm aware others have already explained this, but: She Ra is an ancient Etherian guardian spirit - one of the planet's Princesses - who was active long before the First Ones showed up. The First Ones, who were expert at magitech, created the Sword of Protection to control the She Ra - the Sword makes it easier to manifest the She Ra, but it also limits the She Ra to First Ones. Then the First Ones perpetrated the Heart of Etheria project, evacuating their people from the planet before firing the weapon (possibly against Horde Prime, possibly against some other threat) only for Mara to go rogue and abort the attack by withdrawing the planet into Despondos, a separate dimension. With no First Ones on the planet, but the Sword of Protection still active, there was no She Ra until Light Hope kidnapped Adora and then Adora discovered the Sword. Of course, by that point, Hordak had intervened and the attunement between the scorpion Princess and their crystal had been lost, so it's not until Scorpia connected that the weapon could be brought back online.
Something the series never makes a big deal of is that, while Horde Prime was evil, the First Ones were also pretty bad - as it turns out, they were an outside force that colonised Etheria and attempted to extract the planet's natural resources to fuel their own civilisation - and the only other planet we know they visited, their exploitation of its natural magic left it vulnerable to Horde Prime. While individuals like Mara and the Friends of Mara were good people, in general, the First Ones were also baddies, in the patrician-coloniser tradition.
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On a completely unrelated note, if you're interested in planned storytelling, I recommend checking out Babylon 5 which was originally planned as a 5 season story arc and ended up as 5 seasons, a handful of TV movies and a couple of aborted spinoff series (one didn't make it past pilot thanks to SciFi wanting to not do space programs; the other got cancelled after half a season for not fitting TNT's profile), though corporate politics meant that the latter portion of the season 4 and most of the season 5 we got were somewhat different than what were originally planned.
About a decade earlier, botched first contact between humans and Minbari led to the Earth-Minbari War, and almost the extermination of humanity. In order to try to prevent another war, humans decided to build a space station in neutral territory to be a place where aliens can make first contact and establish diplomatic and trade relations without as much opportunity for misunderstandings to get out of hand. Babylon 5 was the fifth attempt, and the first (and last) station to complete construction and come online. We follow a core cast of about a dozen command crew and alien diplomats as they deal with interstellar politics and assorted minor crises with the initial largely episodic approach gradually transitioning into the main arc of the series (and revealing that the early episodes weren't as stand-alone as you might think). It takes a while to get going (not helped by the lead actor for the first season having some serious mental health issues that ultimately forced him to leave the show) but it's a triumph of long-form storytelling that went unrivalled by anything short of the Battlestar Galactica reboot.
In season 4 Glimmer isnt crazy, shes just struggling with ruling, and juggling being a queen to her friends. She is a young queen in a war. I think her character is very interesting and goes through a lot of changes both good and bad
I'd say my only major criticism of this show is its animation. It's not bad per se, but it isn't particularly good either? It's completely serviceable and it doesn't look wrong or broken, but compared to its contemporaries It's lacking.
What annoyed me about the animation was that the sword would disappear and appear randomly - they really didn’t care about consistency between shots
i really liked the art style but the animation sure had it's flaws and it lead to some hilarious screenshots
The fighting scenes are so slow tbh, i kinda wish it has that same spark as toh's fighting scenes but then again... BUDGET
overall the story was great and well established i think that what made me get into this show
@@Kateypops true, also the height difference feel inconsistent because I've been trying to figure those out and it's confusing.
But also about the sword, not related to what you said but in several episodes Adora let go of the sword but still remained as she ra. In the episode white out she let go of the sword and turned back into Adora.
I'm guessing that was because she wasn't in her right mind at the time, yk, infected she ra then drunk Adora.
But I'm wondering how does this work?
She needs the sword to transform,but she doesn't need it to stay as she ra, and how does she decide when to detransform
@@faefindingawilltolive fr lmao
I believe that the only thing I would've added to the show would be maybe more focus on Mermista and Frosta because Mermista was left in charge even though his dad was alive and Frosta was basically obligated to be Queen since her parents died, but other than that I love this show so much.
as much as I love catra and adora's dynamic from all perspectives and I really want them to just be together and have their happily ever after I think they both have a lot of mental healing and maturing to do before they can commit to a relationship
This show is such a beautiful, big fat middle finger to the whole "chosen one" trope. Showing that thrusting a destiny onto someone isn't what makes them a hero but that their own actions and choices do.
46:37 When they enter Entrapta's lab she's surrounded by robots of which two resemble Scorpia and Hordak. She might not have fully remembered evrything but it was enough to build robot versions of her friends.
i love entrapta. i love how a lot of her character falls under fridge/subtext. you can read in this scene she's remarkably bitter/upset about being ditched by everyone, and yet she doesn't let it on to adora. she instead says "if they break i can make new [friends]" about the robots, "i HAD a lab partner" in past tense, "it was nice being friends with you" like a goodbye forever, because as far as she's concerned it probably is one. entrapta knows that in the real world she's knocked out cold, and wherever she wakes up after the portal, she is not going to be safe, but she doesn't ask for help, thinking that she doesn't deserve it because she's bad at friendship and has been playing villain. she just says goodbye instead.
one thing that kills me about the very first season and why catra stayed with the horde is that adora has been witness to all the physical abuse catra has suffered, and to catra, this made the horde obviously evil. now what catra must hear is that all the pain she went through wasnt enough for adora to realize she should leave the horde. (which isnt to say adora wasnt abused, she absolutely was, but her abuse was much more emotional abuse than physical)
She saw Adora's switching sides as a betrayal. They "Stole" Adora from her, though she promised she would remain on her side. In Catra's mind love is a finite commodity, only given if you deserve it.
Five by Five Takes has a pretty good video called "Why Catra matters." It explains how the abuse she suffered pushes her to make really bad decisions, but that make sense to her.
It was more she was just taught it was okay. She grew up with it and thought it was normal. Shadow weaver likely just told her this is how discipline works.
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Indeed, to her this is the "normal" environment and joining the princesses is the crazy step. People sometimes forget that if you grow up in an abusive environment that becomes your norm and you might have no clue about there being something else. Adora was given a lot more slack and this allowed her to make the leap when she was confronted by Glimmer and co. Adora grew up with the idea of behind useful to the Horde so she switches sides, Catra's relationship is one where things are terrible so in her eyes the enemy would so many times worse ...
Off topic: Negative's hair looks AMAZINGGG, like howwww???😭
Edit: DAMNNNN A WHOLE 1 HOUR LONG VIDEO, LEMME GO GRAB MY SNACKS-
Edit 2: Adora can pile drive me anyday...
Angela’s “trapped forever between dimensions outside of time and space” non-death could have been used as a co-op to bring her back later, and in so glad they committed to it
With how everyone talked up She-Ra, I expected it to suck but good enough to kill time and for the earlier seasons I felt like I was right. Catra, Entrapta and Scorpia were the only reasons I kept watching it because Adora and Glimmer annoyed me to hell and back. Adora is just so boring to me and got the hero treatment again and again so it really pissed me off. But then Season 3 happened, it surprised me with its potential and every season after was jaw dropping in its amazing quality. Every problem I had with the show seem so miniscule with the way they handled the whole story and characters. It deserves every high praise and I wished there were more shows like this to be honest. An overarching plot that treats its characters with respect, it's phenomenal at giving them complex motivations and relationship dynamics. Adora and Glimmer grew so much in the story that I just can't bring myself to be upset with their characterization and that rarely happens! To love all the characters like this? To have them actually change over time? This show is so good!
I completely agree with you 100%. I loved Glimmer and Adora from the first episode but the way they did pretty bad things with little to no consequences kinda annoyed me as well. Until season three hit and that season immediately made the show better for me. The emotions from season three and forward just felt so raw and real, and Adora certainly improved greatly. And so did Glimmer (well after season four atleast). I just like to think that the way season one and two were handled was just build-up for what was going to happen next, because it just feels like that to me. And if that's what they were going for, then it worked perfectly (in my opinion). I also loved Catra, Entrapta, Scorpia, all of the other Princesses, Glimmer's parents, Double Trouble, Wrong-Hordak and so many others. All in all, I agree with your perspective and the show worked for me in a similar way it worked for you.
The reason it's getting good is because they hired Chuck Austen into the team.
I also watched she-ra for entrapta, scorpia, catra.
i really liked how later in the show, they looked in to the whole kind of hero/saviour's sacrifice trope. All the martyrdom instilled into adora from shadow weaver as well as light hope's manipulative training made her ready to sacrifice herself for her friends and etheria on multiple occasions. But when she was finally allowed to take a step back and see what she wanted she was able to overcome it. To me that was the turning point from her being just a goofy hero to a more nuanced one.
I watched for Entrapta and Hordak too. And I love how character whose name is made the word glitter is constantly reminded to not do war crimes
My favourite thing about She-ra (other than the amount of amazing representation and inclusivity) has to be that they make the villains redeemable, sympathetic characters that you can easily relate to. the story telling is absolutely incredible and I adore the series (pun intended).
also the only real criticism ive heard is about horde prime not having the same personal grudge or satisfaction to take down for adora as hordak and catra would.
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They talked about Angela like she's dead but the way they described it it sounds like she's trapped in an empty (out of phase) void forever unable to die or return in a state of perpetual sacrifice.
The text of the show only says Adora would have been trapped and therefore died, like mortals do, but Angela is very immortal.
At first I thought they were doing double reverse denial and then where gonna bring her back, after it was over I figured calling it a "death" was for the kids watching.
Catra and Glimmer are the best characters.
I love how they’re narrative foils. Someone made a great video about it
1:14:40 The reason Adora has trouble connecting to She-Ra is because Adora’s ability to become She-Ra is dependent on her relationship with her friends (which is a theme in the series) - Adora wants to protect her friends and that is what triggers her ability to activate She-Ra. But in this exact episode, Shadow Weaver is hard at work driving a wedge between Adora and Catra. Naturally, because of the history between Adora and Catra, and because of the latent feelings of love between them, Shadow Weaver’s manipulations are wreaking havoc on Adora’s mental and emotional state.
Hell, when Catra abandons Adora in the next episode, Adora rapidly spirals downward into an almost suicidal state, seemingly losing her will to live.
Edit: Also, the reason she's struggling with the She-Ra form in the episode before that is because she is forced to fight against friends who have been mind-controlled, and she can't bring herself to actually hurt innocent people.
Shera is always a fave since I watched her and her bro in the 80s. Not a fan of Netflix Shera but I watched it all and respect its fans that enjoy it!
Thank you so much for not bad talking the show simply because it wasn’t ur cup of tea.
@@zanilairi4930 no problem!
@@LowellLucasJr. respect👍
@@zanilairi4930 wish some of 2018 fans did. I’m always worried the toxic fans will find my 80’s She-Ra posts
I find that people who watch the 80s version don't enjoy the recent version better so I just want to know what didn't make the cut for you
Ngl I haven't watched She-Ra, but the part where she said "I didn't know being a princess was CONTAGIOUS!" Got an ugly snort out of me 😂
A whole hour and more about she-ra. I know this is gonna be gooooooddd
"I don't like to call a show perfect, but I have a hard time thinking of others words to describe this show"
Exactly.
My only major complaint is that Catra and Adora's relationship seemed a bit too cobbled together for the sake of being a relationship. Otherwise, while there are plenty of things that you can pull apart and nitpick in this show, it really is a wonderful story that I think has every right to be widely enjoyed.
i totally agree but it was said that ND was not certain production will let catradora pass in the finale untill the last season but i totally agree thwy definitely didnt get as much character development and healing in the end as many people would like and it felt a bit rushed
I LOVE this show so, so much. There’s a reason I keep recommending it to all of my friends. Honestly atm my only very minor annoyance about it is that I and plenty of other fans would have loved at least a couple OVAs or a movie or something to give us some aftermath because we can’t get enough of such a wonderful story. That, and just typically my favourite character ended up being one who doesn’t have all that much screen time or much of an arc, so it would’ve been nice to see them having to interact more.
"Adora can pile-drive me any day."
You know, I gotta mention that I don't think that Hordak conquering multiple planets was a thing that was brought up/mentioned. So I'm not sure if he really did anything explicitly bad in that regard. He kinda always hit the 'scientist-y' kind of vibe. I might be wrong though. And if I am, please, do correct me on this. And I'll add an edit in confirming it.
Horde Prime did, Hordak probably didn’t. He’s just a clone in this version. Horde prime even reprimands Hordak for starting his own empire
Hordak says he was one of Horde Prime's best generals
@@MrJstorm4 I don't recall the context on him saying that, but Hordak also did a lot of (possibly false) self-inflating in the name of being "worthy" of Horde Prime in the seasons leading up to the actual reveal of Horde Prime. So it wouldn't surprise me if that was a bit of a fib.
Especially coupled with the confirmed backstory that "Prime declared him defective and sent him on a suicide mission that ultimately left him stranded on Etheria" per the wiki. We can reasonably assume his "defectiveness" was present upon spawning since he's not a person who grew from babydom, but someone who iterated fully formed and therefore his consciousness is not nearly as old as we anticipate based on his appearance. So he is left on the battlefield to die, he rebels against Horde Prime there as well (emphasis of his "aberrant" thinking/the "defect"). We don't have really any concrete evidence that he was one of the best. Horde Prime himself doesn't say it that I recall-- unless you count when he reconditions Hordak, which I argue is too different a context to apply here, especially since it was fanfare that just fed Horde Prime's ego and wasn't based in any proven action on Hordak's part.
By the way, Adora was having problems connecting with She Ra back on Etheria because 1. Shadow Weaver was back 2. she had returned to the Fright Zone, so in short, it's PTSD. Plus Shadow Weaver was telling her that CATRA was confusing and distracting her (homophobic coding) when Catra was the reason she had managed to transform into She Ra in the first place.
For the mechanics of who is She-Ra works. She-Ra was a protector who was chosen by Etheria itself and the sword was made by the first ones to hijack the process and make sure only their kind could be She-Ra.
Glimmers mom dying at the end of season three was the biggest plot twist 10-year-old me ever experienced cause I always watched films if the main characters die they did come back to life that was my first experience where it didn’t happen and let me tell you It shook me to my CORE 😭😭
Before you come at me with “ what about The Lion King? “ I never watched that until I was 11 you can show me but I watch She-ra first
@@Jgumyjymghjvmhvj you watched she-ra BEFORE the lion king????
@@ryomahoshi4529 yea…. Awkward 😭
Fun fact: in that D&D themed episode, When Frosta talksabout her plan she says she'll break in with some Ice armor which makes her look alot like blaster blade
I think the only lingering plot hole in this series was that Bow -- is that how you spell his name? -- was glowing in the final battle of the first season, which *seemed* to indicate that he was a princess. But in season two when they were all fighting together he didn't glow, and it was never addressed again. I feel like they added that back when it was supposed to be a one season show, and just didn't think about what it would mean in subsequent seasons.
I loved this version of She-Ra. I binged five seasons for the two minutes they proclaimed their love for each other.
58:30 In season 3 when Angela says goodbye to Micah, he looks away for a moment, before suddenly looking back and saying, "Wait, I'm not-!"
When I first saw this, I was like: "Wait... is he not dead?"
So it's been planned since at least that point!
About the "Micah is alive" twist, there really wasn't any foreshadowing, since literally nobody had any idea he could even be alive.
EXCEPT
In the AU after Catra opened the portal, when queen Angela was talking to Micah, just as she began flying away he shouted (as he finally realised that it was an AU) "Wait, I'm not--" then he was devouered by the light breaking the universe
That's when I realised, and I think that was the only indication ever to tell that he was still alive
I think the double trouble deserves Their own video, they’re an amazing character and honestly I think they’re one of the most interesting pieces of the She-Ra universe, if only because I love them as a character
Angela isn't technically dead, she's just...trapped! Forever! In a timeless space, probably, and even if time passes, she's immortal! If they ever do a movie, they really should make it about saving her.
"We removed the cushions..."
"..."
"... most of the cushions."
ONE OF MY FAVOURITE BITS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Loved the voice actor casting for this show
king micah’s return was actually foreshadowed in the episode where angela dies. as she flies away and he regains his memories, he yells “I’m not dead!”
I love She-Ra. It looks gorgeous, the story is cool, the characters have depth like ALL of them and it`s so nice to see a show that doesn`t use stereotypes and tropes. There are different personalities and sexualities and identities and that`s so freaking beatiful.
This series broke me and rebuilt me in so many ways, specially catra, I relate to her a lot, I’ve also been hurt so many times in my life that I also push people a side when I feel terrible, catra is such a relatable character that watching her story develop a king everyone else felt perfect, She-Ra is an amazing show and I couldn’t recommend it enough.
I just had problems with She Ras botchy world building. There seemed to be something wrong with the scale of the world. It seemed to fluctuate from big to extremely small. And there's a lot of worldbuilding elements in regards to their military and countries structures are so illogical that it bothers me everytime I even briefly think of it. But I could ignore these a little because I did like their character writing.
Yeah I 100% agree. I mean, the frost and sea kingdoms were supposed to take up huge sections of the planet but we never even a glimpse within the cities? I constantly forgot that it was a whole planet and not just a country. The supposed travelling distances versus how long the show took for the characters to get there just didn't add up. I wish we had really gotten a better picture of the scale of the planet they were on instead of just staying in more or less the same location the entire show and then on the last season just going into SPACE. Unfortunately it just made the show a little confusing 😕
Also who is taking care of their kingdom when they go fighting? That was never address from what I saw.
personally for me the world building was so ass it made the show almost unwatchable. The plot holes it created alone were astounding. The setting and environment of a show is extremely important, I've never seen a show mess it up this bad. The scale of the world is all over the place, the locations feel hallow and the background characters seemed so void of life that their existence only ever being slightly believable was when the main characters interacted with them. We basically got no context to how the horde operated or even came to be making the motives and war feel pointless (if u could even call it a war), some lines didn't even make sense like when Scorpia mentioned bowling. Why on earth would the horde have a bowling alley??? Etheria overall feels like a wasteland filled with almost empty kingdoms and one bad place which itself isn't developed well, with space filled with other planets that conveniently speak english (how did they have a name for planets and space if they didn't know it existed anyway?). Entrapta at one point was used as a tool for a lazy way to write off an excuse for every technological plot hole. The horde itself is the most non threatening place ever when it is so easy to break into and they give jobs to people like candy (how did Catra even manage to become second in command? isn't she like 17? is the horde that small? and how is the horde so easy to leave?) All questions that will never be answered because this show couldn't decided to make princess prom segments or tell a story about what abuse does to people. I could go on and on but this is all the patience i had to write.
@@isabellek-q3183 Agreed. And the sad part of this was, the setting is extremely interesting. They could have explored Etheria properly like how Avatar explored their world. There were so many plot lines they could have done about how fringe colonies were falling to the horde. Maybe do a worldbuilding plot line about how horde soldiers are just invaded colonies forced to convert. Maybe up the stakes a bit by digging deeper into how the princesses have some political beef with eachother due to resources or something. This setting had so much potential and none of it was even glanced at.
@@isabellek-q3183 i completely agree. it is such a shame because the show could have been amazing, if only they had taken the time to make it all feel real, developed and filled in the countless amount of huge plot holes. it makes me really sad actually but you explained this perfectly.
18:40 This hilarious thing is that you put that funny clip from Avatar right there, and two seconds later, Adora is hanging on the side of a mountain by a hairpin...just like Azula did in Avatar. 20:37 It's always funny to me that when we start going on about Catra's trauma, they always just blow past the fact she literally put out Octavia's eye in spite.
The main problem I have with the show is the relationship between Catra and Adora. It is toxic. Adora spent the whole show growing and becoming her own person. Catra spent the whole show spiraling in a state of depression. When she decided to leave at the end I was like "Yes, girl, live for YOURSELF, learn to live for YOU!" And...then she goes running back. I wish she still would have chosen to leave after she helped Adora save the day. The whole series was her obsessing over her crush. The relationship will fall to pieces if she doesn't get that time she needs. I wish she still left at the end. Asking Adora to wait for her. This would have been the nest ending. They could have jumped to the future and shown a scene of her returning so it ended on a high note. Also the mark on Adora's chest at the end was in the shape of a heart. I knew it wouldn't work without a kiss. Also you can't spell adorable without Adora! XD
Thank you!! The fandom doesn't seem to realize how toxic their relationship is
On the heart in the new form: I also saw a nice theory of how the new shera form has symbolism of her friends. The heart for bow, her "tiara" kinda resembles catras head-piece, and the wings on her boots for glimmer. It's one of the most beautiful magical girl transformations i ever saw