A Custom 419ci Supercharged LS3 Puts Down Big Pump-Gas Power - Engine Power S9, E18 & 19
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- We’ve got big plans for this aluminum block! That includes stroking it to 419 ci, along with a fully-forged rotating assembly that’s ready for a power adder! Then, our GM long block gets a big blower and a versatile EFI setup before proving what it can do in the dyno cell!
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - Build Overview
02:13 - Mockup
05:04 - Balancing Tech
13:47 - Correct Clearance
17:09 - Building The Block
30:43 - Custom Paint Job
33:33 - Supercharger Install
36:43 - Dyno Pull
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And here i thought Whipple fell off the table. boy i was wrong
I have a number that has been embedded in my brain since I was 16 years old (73 now). As a coal mine apprentice electrician in England, I attended college & studied electrical, mechanical and mining sciences. I learned from Professor Hedley (mining sciences) that the perfect (and worst) possible mixture of Methane Ch4 and air underground, is 14%. Now add coal dust to the mix. Here's the number y'all can use as a reference when trying to imagine what combustion pressures are like in an engine such as the one the guys just built. And why ARP makes some of their head bolts withstand 230,000 psi of tensile stress and stretch. If & when the above mixture is ignited, it expands (explodes or rapid-burns) at the rate of four (4) miles per second. Imagine that happening in you truck engine at 6,000 times per minute. Y'all are welcome, have a nice weekend.
It's quite slow compared to the 186,000 miles per second that light travels at.
@@bigboreracing356 I measured it with an app on my Galaxy S-9.
@@brianwood7480 😂😂
@@bigboreracing356 it would change a whole lot of thinking about the universe, and stuff in general.
Nobody needs arp studs it's just people don't know how to build motors. U figure gale banks don't even use arp studs.
I don't think most people can appreciate the amount of information that balancer is capable of ! Super impressive! Thank you!
Just 1 cubic inch away from greatness
Always cracks me up when such care is taken to coat appropriate areas with ARP lube, and the brush that's used looks like it was used to clean the gutters on the house.
Im digging those two piece valve covers. Very clean look
This is incredible! The accuracy in your builds is phenomenal! Thank you for sharing this video, it's something most of us can only dream about. Screw the sugar plums dancing in my head, this beats that by a mile.
Sounds like a BOT response!!!
Are you going to bot respond on all of their videos? This is not the first one I've seen.
Aluminum heads are so nice! I grew up with cast iron. As a 17 year old 125 lb, grabbing hold of a slant 6 head while leaning over the fender…
Wow guys, you really out did yourselves. That engine is gorgeous. And friggin powerful. Great content guys. Thank you
Never ever get enough of SBCs!! Badass small block!🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪💪
When he says "well,the budget is blown"... Thank God,they finally did something we all do lol..
I'm not even a car guy but I absolutely love learning about the builds and watching what they create........they are masters at their craft!!!
I watched a ton of your stuff as a kid on TV. Absolutely amazing content. You guys rule.
It has always amazed me when people scrimp on fasteners. I use nothing but ARP on everything. If they make it I use it. I even have ARP on my carb linkage. I'm building a 1000+hp Chevy I6 292, 6-71 NOS, duel quad for my 53 Chevy pickup drag and drive. Thank you for your time.
Of of the most foolish places to be cheap is on fasteners I agree 1000%
It's always fun watching you guys build a badass motor ..... or, a daily driven street engine!
This LS is very well built.
Every episode is so fascinating and educational. Awesome numbers on the dyno with your conservative tune. Always looking forward to more.
I may be wrong, but this might be one of the most powerful engines Pat and Frankie have built so far
They built a Ford 460 to like 1100hp
I understand wanting more of the younger generation to get involved but nothing beats experience!
You definitely still should’ve plugged the towers in the valley. I have the same ICT Billet cover and after a few months I had oil pressure issues. Pulled back apart to plug the towers and fixed the issue
Yea I thought the same
Awesome, with a show car build! I'd love to see an identical engine, but where you both don't hold back, and push for as much power as possible with tuning!
PaT , You are king at engine building ! I hope you guys do a lot more of , or at least Carcass will do more 4 cylinders with Electronically controlled fuel and air all of that stuff
Honestly my favorite part of the entire build was the dyno session, especially watching the headers slowly start to glow after a few seconds in the higher rev range at WOT🤣 Solid engine!
Lol pat was very impressed, those valve covers look nice
Great work guys. I'm a die hard Ford fanatic but as a true gearhead we respect all builds. My daughter and I truly love watching the new episodes and hell we probably watch the old ones 12 to15 times a piece. The whole PowerNation family are a great group of people and from all of us on this side of the tube, we hope y'all keep the episodes coming merry Christmas and happy holidays to y'all and all your families
As much as I enjoy these shows I would really appreciate the total parts price of the engines as built
Just kno it's a lot
I would also like to know a good estimate of actual build time vs build in front of the camera time which is 5X longer.. labor is also an expensive cost
@@bigboreracing356 true but I think it would be easier for the show to add the information at the end.
Do yourself a favor and look at " Richard Holdener " on RUclips. He builds junkyard builds as well and takes you step by step with dyno results. Guy is best builder on RUclips
Thank you for your time and effort filming this and posting it, very enjoyable.
That is best looking built engine my friend in 2022 , Let alone I've ever seen Outstanding Son !
GORGEOUS build gents. nice work.
I wish I could have you guys build me an engine for my 98 Sonoma. Your work is amazing... 😉👍🏼
Man !! Such a beautiful build !! You guys truly are mechanically gifted !! Thanks for sharing this build with us! I was watching cleetus McFarland and he says his give away truck is a stock coyote 5.0 with no upgrades besides a whipple on it and it seems to be a beast !! Have you guys done anything like this ? I’m considering doing a 5.0 whipple build like this for my Lincoln town car . ( everyone loves a hot rod lincoln )
idk when you're building for boosted engines you really need to consider your clearances... if they just slapped the supercharger on it it might run excellent but someone correct me i believe its in your best interest to at minimum re-ring it and make sure the compression ratio is within range.. but someone correct me because I don't know the specs right off the top of my head.
The balancing tech portion of the video blew me away! What a neat piece of tech.
Awesome episode. Don’t usually watch ls videos but I’m glad I watched this one.
Awesome tech, great job on this one!
I wish I could have something similar for my 87 C10! I would die happy!
That’s one impressive machine. Wow.
This was a great one, good job guys.
Great build keep up the good work💯👍
Just stumbled on to this channel, absolutely love this kind of content. Subscribed!
Frankie and Pat love watching yall 🙏🫡
I love how pat gets super annoyed at Frankie when he cuts him !!! When there dinoing the engine hahaha!
Great job guys .
9:27, I have those SAME Mega Meals in my freezer at home. Those things are a life saver after a long day and you don't feel like making anything.
Killer build , i recon that would make 1000hp easy if you push it a smidge more
@@bigboreracing356 based on the build it should easily take more boost happily
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@@danieldavid8209 I’m just in here blowing up engines , one at a time
That crank balancer is insane. I remember watching old Mr. Paola balancing my crank many years ago, I can understand why some people think it's voodoo. I think he did it by instinct and intuition as much as by measurement.
Safe to say, his machine wasn't anywhere near that fancy. But that was 30 years ago, too. And the machine was really old at that point.
I can not think of a single shop who measures and spends this much detail.
:(
Sooo, 419 ci is about a 6.8 to 6.9 liter engine. I'd have punched it to 7 liters and settle for a 427, this setup is pretty awesome. Great build, these dudes are awesome!
@@bigboreracing356 I believe the answer to your question can be found in the title of your channel skippy! Please buy yerself a 34 oz cup of Joe, yer pancreas needs some synthetic caffeine!
you cant bore this type of block to 4.125 bore ( 7 liters with 4inch stroke crank). It doesn't have siamese bores like the ls7 block does.
@@juliennacer8871 So what other options are actually available to have a 7 liter block?
@@frankbob4043 aftermarket blocks, almost all of them have siamese bores. Look at dart blocks.
@@juliennacer8871 Exactly my line of thinking.
,,,,,Awesome.............I recognized CWT from the great Eng Pro Expo vids last month............I'm old school , and Balanced my Harley [5 piece crankshaft] via the S & S cycle kit instructions...Weighing the connecting rods is difficult , as to get accurate info .......Thanks for informative videos................
Free idea, CVT Supercharger. 🤩 for variable boost ranges .
Wow, great episode.
That is one very spicy unit. I love it.
I've worked in an old school machine shop with an old guy that ballanced cranks with a machine that used a strobe light and some other crazy stuff I didn't understand at the time that definitely made me think it was voodoo. He built a ton of winning racecar engines, so I guess he was good at voodoo. That modern ballancer makes it where my 10 year old son could do it. That's awesome.
❤🎉 love your show / great craftmannship 🎉🎉🎉
Casey and the boys at Wegner make some badd ass LS stuff!! The Whipple kits, accessory kits, and those awesome 2 piece valve covers are great! Their LS based race engines aren't slouches either!
nice build guys
Great video, that engine is Fu#% amazing. Nice work guys.
Very nice indeed. Well done boys.
Good job guys 🙏
I like what you have done with the boy....lol.... You guys are bad ass, good team!!!!
Another awesome video 👍👍👍👍👍
The LS platform is bar none the most useful platform gm ever put out into the world.
i do find it amusing how the American engine build community is amazed how much difference proper blueprinting/balancing makes to an engine, their European counterpart have been doing this for decades creating horsepower from much smaller engines. its insane the outputs they are getting from small block V8's today from simple science and not just massive volume
'For good street manners', lol. That is a good saying.
love to see some builds on gmc big blocks
Kevan ...Ummm if you have had the pleasure of seeing any Big Block how to video's well then you have seen them all . The Tall deck Truck blocks like the 366 the 427 that came in many GMC 6500 series trucks Ive not personally seen used in performance application now that's not to say you can't ..
im talking about the big block v6 and i6 big blocks or the 637 v8 from 67 to 72.
My friends and I used to build 10k RPM small block Chevy engines. Really, all the secret sauce was in the balancing. Prior to balancing, we would weigh each part of the rotating assembly, find the lowest weight, and remove material from all the others to match. This was done to an accuracy of 0.01 grams plus or minus 0.0025 grams. As we worked, everything was stored in an acetone bath so any debris or oil would automatically be removed. The acetone was blown off, and the part allowed to dry for several minutes in a box heated to 100F to keep everything at a consistent temperature while we worked. Everything was then vaccume sealed in plastic as a cylinder set. This keeps everything clean and together when sent to the balancing shop. The shop we used had an optional balancing with a much higher rotation speed. I think most shops rotate the crank around 500RPM. Our guy was able to balance at 3000 to 5000 RPM. The higher speed makes the forces greater, thus the balancing machine more sensitive. Since we used them all the time, they had balancing weights machined specifically for us. They could add washers to the weights to match the rotating mass to the tolerances in which they were matched. This was a great deal of manual labor, but for teens, it was a very lucrative operation. I think we ended up building a little over 50 engines when we were doing this. All the blocks and crankshafts were pulls from junkyard cars. We only would get 4 bolt main blocks, mostly 350s.
@@bigboreracing356 Such a well thought out responds with deep knowledge displayed of motor design and fabrication. I bow to your genius. Please oh great one, teach us lowly peasants more.
Yeah none of that extra was helping. The balance shop probably laughed when you left. Do you think the weights are that precise in a running engine with oil slinging around? carbon/oil deposits? You just heard an expert tell you there is no secret sauce. That is what is referred to as snake oil.
This was great. One improvement you could have made was with all the detail you went into the engine, could have explained how this twin-screw compressor is superior to the TVS roots type. It was glossed over
The twin screw isn't superior to the tvs lol. That is an old out of date way of thinking. Why do you think it takes at least 3 liters to even match what the 2650s are doing I mean if the twin screw was "more efficient" it would be the other way around. And when it comes to heat soak the tvs doesn't heat soak any more than a twin screw unless you're way overspinning it which is tough to do considering how many rpm a tvs can turn. The modern tvs are very efficient and pound for pound will make more power than a twin screw displacement for displacement the only way a twin screw can exceed a tvs performance wise is with a decent bit more displacement it certainly isn't gonna do it at the same displacement so therefor the whole more efficient crap is a bill of false goods people have been sold
I think you're asking the wrong questions. TVS vs. Lysholm is as was said, outdated. Both are good designs and the new fifth gen Whipples have moved them up alongside the Magnuson blowers.
What I suspect that you are thinking about is some of the older Eatons and the old roots X-71 series blowers. Everything has its place and use, it depends on what you want to do. If you want some explanations on what each style of supercharger can do, there are plenty of videos out there showcasing that.
Wow, when I put those cam specs into an overlap calculator, it came back with 19deg, that’s huge 😵
Love me some of that Wegner Automotive Research bling on that LS. They are the kings of LS power. Wisconsin born n raised!
The best silicone to use is THE RIGHT STUFF(this is what it is called-15 minutes set up & it seals right away-Germany silicone-NAPA availablity if you not sure where to get it) this silicone is awesome stuff.
The best to use is what works for the job and how you do it.
The video turned out to be impressive. 😀
I like the longer upload format.
Love it !
Well done gents
Every time I see them advertising ARP I think of the guys in my Lowbuck LS group that reuse bolts and make way more HP then they should.
@@bigboreracing356 I realize that. They put ARP on every build
@@bigboreracing356 I used some on my motor build and I had to pay for them. I didn’t say it was bad hardware.
@@bigboreracing356 Yep. It was really just a joke man
@@bigboreracing356 Probably so. Like I said it was just a joke really.
30:11 woah black betty bam-ba-lam
Yall scare me. I love it!
Just when I think you can’t outdo yourself and you knock this one out the park. Dream build and would love you guys to see what max limit HP you could attain one day using the largest GM 632 crate motor.
What is the point? That engine was simply built to be what it is. Unless you redo it and make it something entirely different, it is what it is. What should they do with it? GM used a bunch of weird GM parts on that thing, so what would you change?
What a great video… 👍🏻😎
Awesome!
Love it .
I was really looking forward to them adding race gas to it to see it do 9 instead of 830 ish hp. I know with that pulley & a lil more timing it’ll be damn near 1000+
I've wanted to stuff one of these in a 3rd gen camaro for ages!
During the intro when he said one thing leads to another and the budget gets blown. I laughed and my wallet cried because that's exactly how I ended up building my ls3 in to a 417ci 🤣
Pound Feet and Power Horse!!!
As few more machines and yall can do your own machine work!❤
What an awesome build! I love everything about it… except I can’t believe you didn’t throw some race gas in and rev it to 7k!!! I know that’s not the purpose, but to a hot rodder, that race has dyno sheet would look awesome at the car shows!
Lets see a Godzilla build. Price to power..
Now this is very interesting
As always awsome. I kinda miss the start up and tuning part.
Holy Crap!..."THE BELTANATOR"
With a supercharger or turbo(anything that compresses air into the cylinder) compresstion ratio is better at 7.5 or 8 to 1 because you can put higher cylinder pressur because you can make more engine power making more engine power. I understand that in this day & age with engine controls & materials are better that it's a different world but somethings don't change due to longevtity. More power to you!!!!!!
The paint booth is cool, I've never seen one
Badass SBC!!!🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪💪💪
Nice Paint Job on that Block - that Aluminum shouldn't ever Rust - lol !
Exactly and POR 15 at that🤦🏻♂️. I’m sure it was bc of sponsors but still
Wow un programa fantastico..
Amazing work fellas 👍👍👍👍you guys are awesome
Brand Racing has a good video on crank balancing.
I'm sure u could pull a little more power but wow does that engine look good!!!
👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽 always awesome videos
I used to watch these shows, all the different versions. Then I realized they were nothing but a half hour commercial for the sponsors.