I'm not going to buy this card, but I cannot stop watching. The 3.5-slot cooler does not disgust me, but rather piques my curiosity like a multi-car pileup. I cannot look away.
my previous card was a 3 slot card (2080 super) and I grew to really like the thicker card. my 3080 looks puney still to me.
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@@nickgarcia1292 GTFO. I do NOT want three slot cards, and I surely will NEVER get a four slot monster. (3.5 my ass. Does it block three slots apart from the one it's in? It's a four slot card.)
@@tordb agreed. Newegg keeps running out of them. But they are saying more are on the way. still showing $1099 with the $50 rebate and copy of spider-man
I appreciate that they include the GPU support. When I tell people to "gaze in awe at the gargantuan size of this thing" I don't want to be suffering from "unsightly droopage".
"Wow that's absolutely amazing ! 10% more performance more, truely NVIDIA are showing them who is the boss here!" That's what people would say if the card wasn't 2200USD. Even at 1300/1400USD this would be considered stealing. And 480W. Come on guys, the crown is already liquid from all that heat.
Yeah! And that boss ain't mother nature! It's Nvidia and they ridiculous power draws! That thing needs an entire solar array to itself to make it green.
@@Th3Fly1ngCow my 3090strix oc I cannot get above 80c on core and 90c on memory when feeding it the full 480w and running stress tests, and its on air. Temps never get that high when just gaming. Going from 400w to 480w gives like 2% performance increase so yes the whole thing is ridiculous and pointless but i got it at msrp with a 10% voucher on top, this 4 slot thing id never let near my pc, my strix at 3 slots is stupid enough 😂
@@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ in 1440p which most 3080 users are using, the two gpu perform identical, and when rtx is on 6800xt=dog shit. Not to mention dlss which shits on fsr
In 2010 I was able to buy a flagship GPU (That 'only' needed 2x 6-pin) as a student and still afford to eat the remainder of the semester... 12 years later, I'd prefer to not spend in excess of a month's wages before tax on a GPU Thanks nVidia
@@TheSaintsVEVO I remember how crazy it seemed to actually pay over $600 for that card. Other than the single outlier of the 8800Ultra, cards for so long (at least single-GPU cards) had settled into a nice spot where $300 got you something nice in the upper-middle range, and going flagship meant spending maybe a little over $400. Now $300 buys you something on the secondhand market that was midrange 5 years ago and $600 is practically the price of entry to buy any new GPU.
I paid $1700 (tax included) for my 3080 ti. And I love it 🙂. Have it overclocked for an average 5% performance bump. That already beats a stock 3090 and only puts it 7.8% short of the 3090 ti for the games i play at 4k 120hz. From the RUclips 4k gaming benchmarks I've seen and my calculations from my own 3080 ti 4k gaming benchmarks with modest overclock. I'll wait til 4080ti in 2023 🤣☠️. And that'll be faster than 3090 ti and at a lower price - probably the price of current 3080 ti. And that seems the more strategic choice for me. And for others with a 3080ti lol.
did you get a founders edition? thats what i got, paid 1199+ tax at best buy. for 1199 we pretty much stole it w what happened to gpu pricing. i couldnt believe the asus 3080ti coming in at over 2k dollars. literally damn near 1k over nvidia msrp is just plain stupid. i could have gotten the evga as well as they had both. i chose the fe as the perf difference was negligible between the 2 and the extra 220 bucks stayed in my pocket.
$2200 is what I paid for my whole ass PC--and even that I know I overpaid, but premades with a 3070/5900X in the height of the GPU apocalypse was about as decent a price as I was liable to find it.
New atx connector 12+4oin can feed upto 600W to gpu. Its told to be futu3of computing, but I dont think its going to be future of low end gaming gpus. Anyway current latest budget Nvidia is 3050 with 130W, so nobody knows what gpu makers going to try to sell as budget and at what their created budget level of prices. I have feeling that gpu technology doesnt catch design and demand reasonable level of energy saving. I remember passively cooled gpus with heatsinks only, although it was told, those not recommended for gaming, still power draw looked lower overall.
This is especially crazy when you think just how much graphics power Apple have managed to get into their M1 chips while using a fraction of the power for the ENTIRE SoC, never mind a CPU, RAM, Motherboard etc all on top of an already power hungry GPU.
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@7Skidoo [citation needed] There are separate pro cards. These are for idiots with too much money. AKA "whales".
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@@gstormcz The "budget level prices" are dictated by the market, not by manufacturers. AKA "demand side economics". If the market won't buy at what the industry would like to demand, they don't sell, and then they *will* go down with the price.
@@b.s.7693 I can't wait for the 7900 XT to come out, it's supposed to be 50-60% faster and boast the same efficiency whereas the Nvidia 4080 or 4090 will be saturating +600 watts power draw just to keep up on an older and larger architecture lol. Talk about inefficiency.
@Paul's Hardware: There is a lot of good detail in your chart @5:23 but a crucial detail missing is each card's launch date (or availability). If we know when things have been released we will better be able to see how performance is changing over time.
I'd like to see these reviews revisit the 3090 ti now that it's at $1499. It's looking a lot better at this price. I just bought one a few days ago. No regrets.
Cards becoming so thick and expensive and power hungry, means we are hitting some limits in technology. Gpu now uses more than double the power of the rest of the system. Costs the most too. Pc gaming is losing its charm like this.
@@thecrowdfunddeepdive7032 uhmm. No. Cards are using more and more power. While at the same time implementing technologies to upscale the resolution. If the hardware would have been making amazing advancements. We would see a lot more performance at the same power levels. Sure there is improvement over time. But we have seen high power usage on cards before in the past. And the only thing that can solve that is smaller transistors. But we are soon hitting limits on how small transistors can be on current technology. The solution for better performance at this point is. More chips, more power.
Early leaks about the 3090ti were that it was going to be a boutique card purely to remind the public that Nvidia is still "on top" in terms of performance. Low and behold, just like Paul demonstrated, it tops the benchmarks, but at what cost? Two year old technology with insane power draw and a price clearly designed for a small market segment. It's just not worth it. This is why I don't get excited for niche hardware like this, no matter how good it is... And even "good" is debatable given the alternatives and what the average user needs to game comfortably.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j 1000? They'll sell 1000 just to high end compute companies in Asia Pacific alone. As Steve at Gamer Nexus suggests, it's not for gamers, it's an RTX Titan that is just made available to gamers, irrespective of how it is marketed.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend that kind of money for a 10% upgrade, assuming they already have a 3090. 3090s are best used for 3D movie production with their huge amount of memory.
Don't belive it, it's only like 1% more cudas and 1% faster memory it's obviusly due to the clocks , if you have a non reference 3090 the diference is les than 2-3% in performance, I mean if you have a good card you can unlimit the power draw and basically have the same card.... anyways incredible disrespectfull move from Nvidia to us (3090) owners that pay an incredible amount of extra and unworth money to have the best GPU of the GEN and now they drop this at the end of the gen....
@@randomhobbies5796 I got the 3090 evga ftw3 ultra, I swaped the thermalpads for the vram and it's pretty cold with normal airflow and rocks at 2'1+ ghz with better performance on some games that the 3090ti showed in this video
I got one delivered today from Amazon. The EVGA FTW black gaming 3090ti is at $1,299. If you have an amazon card you get 5% cash back on it or can choose 12 payments at 0% interest. I haven't installed it yet as I had to upgrade my cpu and mb, which those don't come until next week.
@@ravenrpg3865 I bought the suprim x 3090ti recently. Found it for a good price new n sealed. Crazy part it was less than my 3080ti ftw3 cost me when prices were higher! Rock on!! Now im trying to sell my new open box 3080ti ftw3 with cool my gpu copper plate and kritical pads for 750. Not one bite on it!
To celebrate the 3090ti launch I've been watching the reviews through an old Pentium m 755, intel extreme 2 graphics, and 2 gigs of ddr running at 400mhz in dual channel.
My favorite benchmarks are the one where in 2K the card reaches close to 300 fps, as if there are any monitors that could even display such an increase in performance. I'm still chilling with my rtx 3080, I honestly don't know what the 3090 ti was made for but I guess yeah it does a really good job at it.
I think Paul's right. It's a halo product among halo products, designed to stage off the 6900 XT from claiming it's the best for the last few months before next gen comes out.
its made for 4K, and for that a lot of these cards are still not even good enough to keep 60+ in all scenarios. 4090ti is where it will be at for that sweet 4k 144hz
It's made to test a 2k msrp and also to see if people will pay an extra 500 dollars for up to 10% gains. Wait 6 months and get the 40 series or 70 series cards.
I'm so glad I found this card at this time, I've been wanting to upgrade my 6 year old CPU for 3 years now, and I'm finally starting to build my super tower. This coupled with a 5800X3D and 32G 3800 CL16 DDR4 all on a Dark Hero... liquid cooled. I cant wait for this card to come in.
That's gonna be a beast, bro. I ordered mine on Amazon now that it got discounted and I let go of my XFX 6900 XT Limited Black, which was a total powerhouse. Price hurts, but I already learned from 2020. Grab a lifeboat for when the tide rises, because land won't be seen for a while. 😩
@@gulfmclarenf1296 Yeah I've been using it, it's a big fucking card.. too bad my super tower doesn't support a 3 slot gpu vertically. But it's flawless. What an upgrade!
I'll stick with my 6900 XT from XFX, my benchmarks on that card are higher than the 3090 and just barely under the 3090 Ti when comparing to your results (except ray tracing). I'm very happy with it so far minus ray tracing performance. As my first AMD GPU, I am very impressed. I'm a believer now. AMD is better than I was led to believe a year ago.
RDNA 1 had a rough start with the drivers, but they got ironed out. RDNA 2 was full steam ahead, and if rumors are to believed, RDNA 3 may take the raster performance crown entirely. I'm expecting Ampere-or-better levels of ray-tracing.
AMD is very competitive in the current gen and it’s only looking to get hotter. The main edge that NVidia currently has isn’t so much in raw performance but software and tech. Stuff like Ray tracing, DLSS, DSR, cuda, etc. are the main selling points for team green right now. But AMD is doing great with their cards, and are hopefully catching up in the tech department.
I only play in optimized games like escape from tarkov and as they are a smaller companies that make these games they tend to run much much better on intel cpu/nvidia gpu systems makes amd a non starter unfortunately. I love what amd did with 5th gen ryzen and may purchase a 5800x3d to upgrade a 2600x system I have laying around.
The Suprim X is the fastest air cooling based variant you will be able to find by a couple of fps (5fps difference maybe). I also ordered one and it should arrive in a few days. Actually, I already ordered the card before, but it was dead on arrival and had to be sent back, now a new one directly from MSI is supposed to arrive in the coming days. The 12 gigs of my current Asus rog Strix OC 3080ti are not nearly enough, especially for my modding use. Just playing modded Skyrim in 4k makes 12 gigs of vram look like a complete joke and it becomes a stutter fest, unfortunately. I already was skeptical if it would be enough when I got it, but people talked into me and I decided to get it. Big mistake when I look back now.
Well, I've already said that I think these are worth it over the 3090 based on improved designs, but the benchmarks actually are somewhat impressive; the 3090Ti really does make the difference between playable and not playable at 4K or consistent 120 at 1440p EDIT: I'm looking at the 1% lows, btw
I've had my eye on this card since I saw your video on the giveaway build you put this card in. Happy to say that after months of being patient and checking Amazon literally everyday, I just bought this card for $1200 brand new on Amazon. Yay!!
Checked the Nvidia store and not only was it in stock (first time ever), it remained in stock 10 minutes later. This benchmark alone is enough to show even the bots think it's not worth purchasing.
I was lucky enough to pick up the regular SUPRIM 3090 back then. The beefy 2.5 slot cooler in that was already very good. I wonder if this crazy overkill 3.5 slot cooler is just a dumb way to differentiate it, lol.
I went with ryzen 9 5900x rx6900xt they were gave me the same gaming performance as 3090 I don't care about other things thinks what I saved 800 dollars😇
@@soniccage7045 I know more than enough to say this, unlike you. I can say w/e I want to cause I can always back it up. You are just way too irrelevant so I'm not gonna spend my time educating you. Consider yourself lucky that I even replied to you once. Notif disabled.
My only complaint w the new card is that none of them have USB-C outputs. As someone who uses pen displays, I miss being able to use only one cable lol
I just got the EVGA's FTW3 Ultra's 3080 Ti for $1,080 off Amazon new, at the end of July 2022. The 3090 ti of same spec was 1700 at the time, 2 weeks later the 3090 ti FTW3 U was $120 difference! Since I needed the extra memory for work it was an easy decision. 3080TI is no slouch though esp. the FTW3 version. At the time, (august 5th 2022) $120 trade-upgrade, for this amazing brickhouse made some sense The ftw3U 3090 Ti is very quiet and cool with less pass-through cooling, opting for a blower design with the super THICK backplate.... Thanks for the content! I hope you all are able to get what you've needed/wanted after these rough few years!
Yah I just got this a few days ago and I couldn’t believe how friggin big this beast is. Had to switch my front fans just so it would fit. And since I only paid a grand for this card I’d say it’s was pretty bang for buck. More so when this card was 2 grand just a few months ago.
Could you put this GPU in an old pc with a 4 generation I7 as an example with the proper power supply and get improvement better than GTX series still how big the CPU bottle neck would it be ???????
Being a 3090 owner, I hope that with this release nVidia does a little more tuning for the 3090 to eek out a little more performance to consistently get it above the 3080ti.
hmmm the memory junction temperature is interesting....that's a neat feature :P over 3090 ....but some 3080s were hot too ...without memory on the back
MSI model on Ebuyer in UK is £1979.99, Zotac AMP extreme is £1,879.97, The ASUS one coming soon with AIO 240m coolers and the killer Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme waterforce with a 360m rad and AIO pump on top of an already high power draw
Great video, I'm like 130 :-) Thanks for including MSFS2020 benchmarks because it's the only value we MSFS2020 VR flyers need to know. Now those prices need to drop or better to wait for the 4090...
Not sure if this is the place, but I have a probing Paul question: I would like to upgrade somewhere in late 2022/2023 with future-proofing and upgradeability in mind, as my 4790k + GTX 1070 is starting to show its age. My current idea is to wait for AM5 + DDR5 + PCIe 4.0 motherboard, DDR5 RAM when pricing drops next year and a 30xx/40xx GPU. How would you go about maximizing future upgradeability in a new build? Thanks!
Also my brother gave me the go ahead on putting a parts list together for his new PC we're going to build together. I'm totally going to plagiarize your resent build guides! Thanks Buddy
I'm currently planning out another build and can afford RTX 3090ti but is it worth it considering factoring in the cost of a 1200 to 1500 watt power supply and a case with good airflow. Probably not at the price to performance ratio. Back to waiting for the 3080 to go below the $1000.
Thank you for not feeding the meme, and also for keeping benchmarks entertaining by avoiding premature judgements during the presentation of the benchmark results.
I've had an Asus ROG version for a couple weeks, from my contact in the ROC, and it's a beast like no other. A real mammoth of a card. At the max OC I was able to achieve, it was peaking at nearly 650W... for the card alone.
I’m so confused as to why your 3090 is relatively scoring so low compared to other cards though? Is there something anecdotal we should know about your 3090 used in testing?
Still rocking my Suprim X 3090 just fine. I am pretty sure i can pass next 2 generations with ease, Edit: Actually i was expecting a PSU higher than 1k watts for that as i use a Dark Power 12 Tita 80+ with 1k watts for the non ti 3090.
Hi sir, I have a question for you! I am having a msi meg x570 godlike motherboard with rtx 2080ti. Can my x570 be used with rtx 3090ti? I'm planning to upgrade my GPU. Thanks!
Hi Paul/anyone, Sorry for asking about a 1 year old vid but.. why does the 3090 get beaten by the 3080Ti and (even a 3070Ti once) in quite a few places? It seems to be at the 1080 where things get wierderst, then at 1440 too sometimes.. but.. why would that be ? Looks like they tie or it beats the 3080ti by a smidge at 4k.
I hope I don't inquire in something you've covered before, but sometime in a new video, would you please elaborate on how certain resolutions dodge being CPU bound? Thanks Paul 💪
Paul, you should really do a "catch up on GPU's" videos. With prices coming down and actual choices in stock, it would be good to know what you recommend for 1080p, high refresh 1440p etc.
If you are getting this for VR, like I did, research first, it seems there is a hardware issue that prevents this card from being normally used for VR, you will need a display port signal booster. I spent a whole day trying to use my headsets and non of them worked until I contacted nvidia and they told me the problem. It sucks.
The dual bios feature on cards is very stupid. I mean, who bothers opening his case to flip the switch on/off? My card (MSI 6600 XT Gaming) has much better design, the GPU fans are completely off unless the GPU starts being hot. In practice, they are always off when I'm doing desktop stuff, and still off if I'm playing low-GPU usage games like Fall Guys. They only turn on when I'm playing graphic intensive games. It's awesome, no bios switch required.
Pretty interesting how efficient the 3090 ti can be. Saw the Igors lab video and got myself a 3090 ti and will limit it to 300w. I mean as it’s almost the same cost as the 3090 or 3080ti and in some instances even cheaper why not
Yes, as a financial advisor I agree with you. It is not the best Gpu for price/performance. More interested about the full hd benchmarks that show a 10% fps average improvement. Maybe the best option is to buy it on the used market when the 4000 series come out. -Niccolò Flori
Great review Paul! It would be interesting to see performance per watt by generation- the wattages on new high end cards just keep going up - are Nvidia running out of runway on a per CUDA core perspective, does just adding more cores add performance in a linear fashion; or are the cores themselves are becoming more performant?
Hi, I’m looking for anyone to help with figure something out so I’m new to building a pc but I want to know if my motherboard will support quad channel because I want to run 4 sticks of ram but it says dual channel if I put 4 sticks of ram same brand and everything would it still work or would I have to get one with specific quad channel support??? And my motherboard is an asus rog strix x570-e gaming with a ryzen 7 5800x
Still think that was the Reason why Nvidia wanted to get ARM. And i still think that this will be a Thing at some Point. AMD just explained how 3D V-Cache works and they also made clear that you can put other Things on there as well. Not only Cache.
There are computers than that 3090 ti. But nvidia cannot make none of that, they have neither required licenses nor even close to the required technology. Say they partnered up with arm, samsung and some mobo maker, it still would make 0 sense to make such a thing. Although fyi, there are older motherboards with integrated graphics. Well, most processers have graphics anyways. It's 100x more likely that intel would do such a thing than nvidia. Is the point. Kinda.
Pretty sure its just stock footage but the previews for your benchmarks in the top right are very stuttery. Is this actual gameplay from the 3090Ti as I'd class that kind of jittering as unplayable. Its notable in more than one game.
Good video... altho realistically.. i can nvr see myself buying this card even if its readily available.. think a 3080 or 6800xt/6900xt is more efficient cost to performance
Hey Paul, I have a question as I'm watching this video. I have an EVGA Supernova 1000 P2 80+ Platinum power supply, I've used it now in 3 complete upgrades over the last 5 years of my personal rig, Do PSUs of this high-grade intensity have a life expectancy or am I doing good? I posted this on your Twitter as well.
5 years is within minimum expected. Most good ones last 7-10 years, also it doesn't just pop one day, sometimes its a slow death because it starts to lag in transient response timing, you'll know it when ya see it kinda thing tho. Anytime ya statt something that pull's a lot juice it'll start Blue screening or etc. Also something worth mentioning for PSUs like 2016 or older it may not hold up to the random spiking that the 30 series is known for. Ge the 3080 is speced for 350 watts, sometimes it spikes to 450 Watts for like 5-10ms and the psu craps the bed. Hope that's helpful!
@@Dracossaint Very cool thanks for the info and response! I have the 5900X and MSI 3090 Ventus at the moment and everything is running stable, knock on wood.
I'm not going to buy this card, but I cannot stop watching. The 3.5-slot cooler does not disgust me, but rather piques my curiosity like a multi-car pileup. I cannot look away.
my previous card was a 3 slot card (2080 super) and I grew to really like the thicker card. my 3080 looks puney still to me.
@@nickgarcia1292 GTFO. I do NOT want three slot cards, and I surely will NEVER get a four slot monster.
(3.5 my ass. Does it block three slots apart from the one it's in? It's a four slot card.)
@@nickgarcia1292 My AORUS Master is a 3 slot card and it's only a 3070 Ti. It does however... run REALLY cool.
Indeed, it is like a slow motion train wreck and I can't stop watching it :p
Going to have to see what the Two Steve's think as well, ha....
Kudos for the use of "pique"
They're new for $1200 right now lmao. Hats off to anyone who waited, you deserve it.
just got one for $1099 with a $50 rebate from newegg.
@@dano5238 $1154.99 at Microcenter right now. Still about $500 too high.
@@tordb agreed. Newegg keeps running out of them. But they are saying more are on the way. still showing $1099 with the $50 rebate and copy of spider-man
@@dano5238 same here it was a steal
I got mine last week at £1120
Thank you for your time. **Goes back to only spending $2200 for used automobiles**
Still loving my 2080 Ti from pre-Covid, aging nicely, consider myself lucky
Actually anything above 700$ for a GPU is overspending in my opinion.
We should force the chinese GPUs into our market in order to force these greedy manufacturers put up fair prices!
well people use their pc's more than others use their car, from that perspective it's not that expensive
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j there are not many professions that could justify the cost from an investment standpoint
I appreciate that they include the GPU support. When I tell people to "gaze in awe at the gargantuan size of this thing" I don't want to be suffering from "unsightly droopage".
"Wow that's absolutely amazing ! 10% more performance more, truely NVIDIA are showing them who is the boss here!"
That's what people would say if the card wasn't 2200USD. Even at 1300/1400USD this would be considered stealing.
And 480W. Come on guys, the crown is already liquid from all that heat.
Most higher end AIB 3090s were already 450-500 watts including the 3090 Suprim X.
@@Mildly_Amused which did them not good because they can’t use it on air 😂
Yeah! And that boss ain't mother nature! It's Nvidia and they ridiculous power draws! That thing needs an entire solar array to itself to make it green.
@@Th3Fly1ngCow my 3090strix oc I cannot get above 80c on core and 90c on memory when feeding it the full 480w and running stress tests, and its on air. Temps never get that high when just gaming. Going from 400w to 480w gives like 2% performance increase so yes the whole thing is ridiculous and pointless but i got it at msrp with a 10% voucher on top, this 4 slot thing id never let near my pc, my strix at 3 slots is stupid enough 😂
@Estxsy never buy this trash unless you need to work with it
Amazing card - but what i got out of this is my choice of getting a 6800xt was a good one.
You don't know how lucky you are honestly :(
they selling for 850 now
Not as good a choice as mine of getting a 3080
@@那人冷靜一點 3080 performs worse than 6800xt
@@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ in 1440p which most 3080 users are using, the two gpu perform identical, and when rtx is on 6800xt=dog shit. Not to mention dlss which shits on fsr
In 2010 I was able to buy a flagship GPU (That 'only' needed 2x 6-pin) as a student and still afford to eat the remainder of the semester...
12 years later, I'd prefer to not spend in excess of a month's wages before tax on a GPU
Thanks nVidia
980ti is honestly still good. Wish they still made gpus like that
@@TheSaintsVEVO I remember how crazy it seemed to actually pay over $600 for that card. Other than the single outlier of the 8800Ultra, cards for so long (at least single-GPU cards) had settled into a nice spot where $300 got you something nice in the upper-middle range, and going flagship meant spending maybe a little over $400.
Now $300 buys you something on the secondhand market that was midrange 5 years ago and $600 is practically the price of entry to buy any new GPU.
This card makes my 3080Ti that I bought at MSRP look like a bargain.
I hear ya there
Same lol
I paid considerably over MSRP for mine. You absolutely got a bargain.
I paid $1700 (tax included) for my 3080 ti. And I love it 🙂. Have it overclocked for an average 5% performance bump. That already beats a stock 3090 and only puts it 7.8% short of the 3090 ti for the games i play at 4k 120hz. From the RUclips 4k gaming benchmarks I've seen and my calculations from my own 3080 ti 4k gaming benchmarks with modest overclock.
I'll wait til 4080ti in 2023 🤣☠️. And that'll be faster than 3090 ti and at a lower price - probably the price of current 3080 ti. And that seems the more strategic choice for me. And for others with a 3080ti lol.
did you get a founders edition? thats what i got, paid 1199+ tax at best buy. for 1199 we pretty much stole it w what happened to gpu pricing. i couldnt believe the asus 3080ti coming in at over 2k dollars. literally damn near 1k over nvidia msrp is just plain stupid. i could have gotten the evga as well as they had both. i chose the fe as the perf difference was negligible between the 2 and the extra 220 bucks stayed in my pocket.
Wow this card is a performance beast and now I'll continue using my gtx 1050 ti laptop
$2200 is what I paid for my whole ass PC--and even that I know I overpaid, but premades with a 3070/5900X in the height of the GPU apocalypse was about as decent a price as I was liable to find it.
I must be the only one that is sick and tired of the 3 fan, too expensive, too large, too heavy, too power hungry graphics cards. They are ridiculous.
This one of this examples on which we look back some day say: what a waste of ressources
New atx connector 12+4oin can feed upto 600W to gpu. Its told to be futu3of computing, but I dont think its going to be future of low end gaming gpus. Anyway current latest budget Nvidia is 3050 with 130W, so nobody knows what gpu makers going to try to sell as budget and at what their created budget level of prices.
I have feeling that gpu technology doesnt catch design and demand reasonable level of energy saving.
I remember passively cooled gpus with heatsinks only, although it was told, those not recommended for gaming, still power draw looked lower overall.
This is especially crazy when you think just how much graphics power Apple have managed to get into their M1 chips while using a fraction of the power for the ENTIRE SoC, never mind a CPU, RAM, Motherboard etc all on top of an already power hungry GPU.
@7Skidoo [citation needed] There are separate pro cards. These are for idiots with too much money. AKA "whales".
@@gstormcz The "budget level prices" are dictated by the market, not by manufacturers. AKA "demand side economics". If the market won't buy at what the industry would like to demand, they don't sell, and then they *will* go down with the price.
The 6900XT looks to be a boss of efficiency, power, and cost here.
Absolutely. The 6900 XT is the Gentleman here whereas the 3090Ti is power boozing freak
It would cost much more if it wasn’t being outsold 5:1
@@GreysprunkiyayWell good thing it's being outsold then
@@b.s.7693 I can't wait for the 7900 XT to come out, it's supposed to be 50-60% faster and boast the same efficiency whereas the Nvidia 4080 or 4090 will be saturating +600 watts power draw just to keep up on an older and larger architecture lol. Talk about inefficiency.
@@luminatrixfanfiction
Maybe the best RDNA 3 card can get even more in some games.
@Paul's Hardware: There is a lot of good detail in your chart @5:23 but a crucial detail missing is each card's launch date (or availability). If we know when things have been released we will better be able to see how performance is changing over time.
I'd like to see these reviews revisit the 3090 ti now that it's at $1499. It's looking a lot better at this price. I just bought one a few days ago. No regrets.
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Just bought one for $1099, first build and I’m very excited!
@@AR-tj1no it will be fun! Enjoy my friend! 👍
Cards becoming so thick and expensive and power hungry, means we are hitting some limits in technology. Gpu now uses more than double the power of the rest of the system. Costs the most too. Pc gaming is losing its charm like this.
That isn't reality. Things are advancing faster than ever. Its actually scary.
@@thecrowdfunddeepdive7032 uhmm. No. Cards are using more and more power. While at the same time implementing technologies to upscale the resolution. If the hardware would have been making amazing advancements. We would see a lot more performance at the same power levels. Sure there is improvement over time. But we have seen high power usage on cards before in the past. And the only thing that can solve that is smaller transistors. But we are soon hitting limits on how small transistors can be on current technology. The solution for better performance at this point is. More chips, more power.
@Male Sensitivity Ohh if you choose Apple then you don't care for overpaying for hardware anyway.
@@MrMastadox Oh, snap. LOL Oh, oh, so true.
@@MrMastadox u talk like u are genius than engineer
Wow. The takeaway here is that the AMD RX 6900XT is absolutely amazing.
and 6800xt is almost as powerful.
Amazing, drink spitter post here🤣🤣🤣
Yeah 98 degrees peak on an open test bench is so amazing.
@@EldenLord. Still cooler, faster* and less power hungry** than a 3090 Ti :3
* Not always
** Always
I'm torn. I can't decide between this or eating for a year.
Early leaks about the 3090ti were that it was going to be a boutique card purely to remind the public that Nvidia is still "on top" in terms of performance. Low and behold, just like Paul demonstrated, it tops the benchmarks, but at what cost? Two year old technology with insane power draw and a price clearly designed for a small market segment. It's just not worth it. This is why I don't get excited for niche hardware like this, no matter how good it is... And even "good" is debatable given the alternatives and what the average user needs to game comfortably.
Yeah I can’t even imagine playing games at a high enough resolution to justify this.
problem for nvidia is, miners are not paying for those prices anymore. they'll sell maybe 1000 of these gpus not much more
In 6 months this card is obsolete, totaly usless to buy now, especially considering the price.
the ozone layer has just been lost. why why why why 850 watts
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j 1000? They'll sell 1000 just to high end compute companies in Asia Pacific alone. As Steve at Gamer Nexus suggests, it's not for gamers, it's an RTX Titan that is just made available to gamers, irrespective of how it is marketed.
Only a little over $1K on amazon at the moment. Cheaper than the 3080 I bought two years ago.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend that kind of money for a 10% upgrade, assuming they already have a 3090.
3090s are best used for 3D movie production with their huge amount of memory.
I work in a local PC hardware shop, and there are quite a few people out there who want the latest and greatest no matter the cost.
Don't belive it, it's only like 1% more cudas and 1% faster memory it's obviusly due to the clocks , if you have a non reference 3090 the diference is les than 2-3% in performance,
I mean if you have a good card you can unlimit the power draw and basically have the same card.... anyways incredible disrespectfull move from Nvidia to us (3090) owners that pay an incredible amount of extra and unworth money to have the best GPU of the GEN and now they drop this at the end of the gen....
I got 3090 strix and it's hard to keep the vram cool plus the fans are failing now 🤦♂️
@@randomhobbies5796 I got the 3090 evga ftw3 ultra, I swaped the thermalpads for the vram and it's pretty cold with normal airflow and rocks at 2'1+ ghz with better performance on some games that the 3090ti showed in this video
High resolution VR sim racing and flight sims. That’s what I want if for.
Such a beast, they are out there for reasonable prices now. Makes me maybe want to pick one up!!
I got one delivered today from Amazon. The EVGA FTW black gaming 3090ti is at $1,299. If you have an amazon card you get 5% cash back on it or can choose 12 payments at 0% interest. I haven't installed it yet as I had to upgrade my cpu and mb, which those don't come until next week.
@@ravenrpg3865 I bought the suprim x 3090ti recently. Found it for a good price new n sealed. Crazy part it was less than my 3080ti ftw3 cost me when prices were higher! Rock on!! Now im trying to sell my new open box 3080ti ftw3 with cool my gpu copper plate and kritical pads for 750. Not one bite on it!
To celebrate the 3090ti launch I've been watching the reviews through an old Pentium m 755, intel extreme 2 graphics, and 2 gigs of ddr running at 400mhz in dual channel.
2:09 "This card has that new 𝟙𝟚𝕍ℍℙ𝕆𝕎𝔼ℝ connector" 😂😂😂
My favorite benchmarks are the one where in 2K the card reaches close to 300 fps, as if there are any monitors that could even display such an increase in performance. I'm still chilling with my rtx 3080, I honestly don't know what the 3090 ti was made for but I guess yeah it does a really good job at it.
I think Paul's right. It's a halo product among halo products, designed to stage off the 6900 XT from claiming it's the best for the last few months before next gen comes out.
its made for 4K, and for that a lot of these cards are still not even good enough to keep 60+ in all scenarios. 4090ti is where it will be at for that sweet 4k 144hz
You people can't just stop complaining. Imagine whining because the card produces very high FPS in 1440p. It's better, it will last longer, slow one.
In what game?
It's made to test a 2k msrp and also to see if people will pay an extra 500 dollars for up to 10% gains. Wait 6 months and get the 40 series or 70 series cards.
Thanks Paul you made the only 3090Ti review I actually liked 👍 Well done.
I'm so glad I found this card at this time, I've been wanting to upgrade my 6 year old CPU for 3 years now, and I'm finally starting to build my super tower. This coupled with a 5800X3D and 32G 3800 CL16 DDR4 all on a Dark Hero... liquid cooled. I cant wait for this card to come in.
That's gonna be a beast, bro. I ordered mine on Amazon now that it got discounted and I let go of my XFX 6900 XT Limited Black, which was a total powerhouse.
Price hurts, but I already learned from 2020. Grab a lifeboat for when the tide rises, because land won't be seen for a while. 😩
My 5800x3D paired to the 3070ti is a monster, but 8gb of VRAM wasn't enough. I can't wait for my 3090ti!
@@gulfmclarenf1296 Yeah I've been using it, it's a big fucking card.. too bad my super tower doesn't support a 3 slot gpu vertically. But it's flawless. What an upgrade!
I'll stick with my 6900 XT from XFX, my benchmarks on that card are higher than the 3090 and just barely under the 3090 Ti when comparing to your results (except ray tracing). I'm very happy with it so far minus ray tracing performance. As my first AMD GPU, I am very impressed. I'm a believer now. AMD is better than I was led to believe a year ago.
RDNA 1 had a rough start with the drivers, but they got ironed out. RDNA 2 was full steam ahead, and if rumors are to believed, RDNA 3 may take the raster performance crown entirely. I'm expecting Ampere-or-better levels of ray-tracing.
AMD is very competitive in the current gen and it’s only looking to get hotter. The main edge that NVidia currently has isn’t so much in raw performance but software and tech.
Stuff like Ray tracing, DLSS, DSR, cuda, etc. are the main selling points for team green right now. But AMD is doing great with their cards, and are hopefully catching up in the tech department.
Same love mine also
Man your benchmarks must be so rigged😂
I only play in optimized games like escape from tarkov and as they are a smaller companies that make these games they tend to run much much better on intel cpu/nvidia gpu systems makes amd a non starter unfortunately. I love what amd did with 5th gen ryzen and may purchase a 5800x3d to upgrade a 2600x system I have laying around.
Got it brand new for $1k. Thing is nuts
You happy with yours so far?
I would personally like to see a list of all the 3090 ti variance how they would rank against each other
The Suprim X is the fastest air cooling based variant you will be able to find by a couple of fps (5fps difference maybe). I also ordered one and it should arrive in a few days. Actually, I already ordered the card before, but it was dead on arrival and had to be sent back, now a new one directly from MSI is supposed to arrive in the coming days. The 12 gigs of my current Asus rog Strix OC 3080ti are not nearly enough, especially for my modding use. Just playing modded Skyrim in 4k makes 12 gigs of vram look like a complete joke and it becomes a stutter fest, unfortunately. I already was skeptical if it would be enough when I got it, but people talked into me and I decided to get it. Big mistake when I look back now.
Well, I've already said that I think these are worth it over the 3090 based on improved designs, but the benchmarks actually are somewhat impressive; the 3090Ti really does make the difference between playable and not playable at 4K or consistent 120 at 1440p EDIT: I'm looking at the 1% lows, btw
I've had my eye on this card since I saw your video on the giveaway build you put this card in. Happy to say that after months of being patient and checking Amazon literally everyday, I just bought this card for $1200 brand new on Amazon. Yay!!
I just bought one for $1100 on Amazon 😬
Checked the Nvidia store and not only was it in stock (first time ever), it remained in stock 10 minutes later. This benchmark alone is enough to show even the bots think it's not worth purchasing.
What 3090 did you use in this test ???
Looks really bad card
I was lucky enough to pick up the regular SUPRIM 3090 back then. The beefy 2.5 slot cooler in that was already very good. I wonder if this crazy overkill 3.5 slot cooler is just a dumb way to differentiate it, lol.
no, it needs it since it uses more power.
I went with ryzen 9 5900x rx6900xt they were gave me the same gaming performance as 3090 I don't care about other things thinks what I saved 800 dollars😇
@@kunalboken8122 AMD gpus are terrible. I would rsther buy a gtx 1080 ti for 500 euros than rx 6900XT for 300 euros no joke.
@@PahEz you have no idea what you're talking about
@@soniccage7045 I know more than enough to say this, unlike you. I can say w/e I want to cause I can always back it up. You are just way too irrelevant so I'm not gonna spend my time educating you. Consider yourself lucky that I even replied to you once. Notif disabled.
just curious - are the radiator fans on a pull or push configuration?
6:10
My only complaint w the new card is that none of them have USB-C outputs. As someone who uses pen displays, I miss being able to use only one cable lol
I just got the EVGA's FTW3 Ultra's 3080 Ti for $1,080 off Amazon new, at the end of July 2022. The 3090 ti of same spec was 1700 at the time, 2 weeks later the 3090 ti FTW3 U was $120 difference! Since I needed the extra memory for work it was an easy decision. 3080TI is no slouch though esp. the FTW3 version. At the time, (august 5th 2022) $120 trade-upgrade, for this amazing brickhouse made some sense The ftw3U 3090 Ti is very quiet and cool with less pass-through cooling, opting for a blower design with the super THICK backplate.... Thanks for the content!
I hope you all are able to get what you've needed/wanted after these rough few years!
I’ll stick with my 6900xt until the 4000 series is released
Yah I just got this a few days ago and I couldn’t believe how friggin big this beast is. Had to switch my front fans just so it would fit. And since I only paid a grand for this card I’d say it’s was pretty bang for buck. More so when this card was 2 grand just a few months ago.
For MSFS at 4K, this thing is an absolute beast!
at 8:18, how come the 3080ti beats the 3090?
Could you put this GPU in an old pc with a 4 generation I7 as an example with the proper power supply and get improvement better than GTX series still how big the CPU bottle neck would it be ???????
always my goto for reviews...thanks paul
I'm gonna build my next PC inside this GPU.
Being a 3090 owner, I hope that with this release nVidia does a little more tuning for the 3090 to eek out a little more performance to consistently get it above the 3080ti.
Probably not😑
Didn't they already upgraded DLSS which kinda does that across the entire series ?
hmmm the memory junction temperature is interesting....that's a neat feature :P over 3090 ....but some 3080s were hot too ...without memory on the back
Thanks for adding MSFS 2020 to your benchmarks
MSI model on Ebuyer in UK is £1979.99, Zotac AMP extreme is £1,879.97, The ASUS one coming soon with AIO 240m coolers and the killer Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme waterforce with a 360m rad and AIO pump on top of an already high power draw
true, though the aio pump noise is really an issue when not gaming. had it for a couple of days and sent it back.
More gains over 3090 than I expected. Good for people with more money than they'll ever need.
Just ordered mine on Amazon today for $1100 plus tax. Will see if it makes a big difference IMO to my EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3. If not, I'll return it.
So how did it go btw? Have u kept it or returned it
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@@MollyAintIt Maybe it ate him.
Great video, I'm like 130 :-) Thanks for including MSFS2020 benchmarks because it's the only value we MSFS2020 VR flyers need to know. Now those prices need to drop or better to wait for the 4090...
Not sure if this is the place, but I have a probing Paul question:
I would like to upgrade somewhere in late 2022/2023 with future-proofing and upgradeability in mind, as my 4790k + GTX 1070 is starting to show its age. My current idea is to wait for AM5 + DDR5 + PCIe 4.0 motherboard, DDR5 RAM when pricing drops next year and a 30xx/40xx GPU. How would you go about maximizing future upgradeability in a new build? Thanks!
Also my brother gave me the go ahead on putting a parts list together for his new PC we're going to build together.
I'm totally going to plagiarize your resent build guides!
Thanks Buddy
I'm currently planning out another build and can afford RTX 3090ti but is it worth it considering factoring in the cost of a 1200 to 1500 watt power supply and a case with good airflow. Probably not at the price to performance ratio. Back to waiting for the 3080 to go below the $1000.
Thank you for not feeding the meme, and also for keeping benchmarks entertaining by avoiding premature judgements during the presentation of the benchmark results.
Just got this GPU today! thanks for the info paul!
Nice review, as always Paul.
Dont know waht kills you first, the heart attack of the price tag, the power bill or the GPU used as a blunt weapon.
Hey! Does the Supreme X fit on the Thermaltake Tower 100? I need your help!!!
@Paul's Hardware, can you tell if there is a big difference in any of your numbers if you would have been trying the GPU with a Win11 installation?
I've had an Asus ROG version for a couple weeks, from my contact in the ROC, and it's a beast like no other. A real mammoth of a card. At the max OC I was able to achieve, it was peaking at nearly 650W... for the card alone.
Ok but why tho
@@eastcoastoverlord because it's easier for manufacturers to squeeze more electricity into components than doing real optimization
Hey Paul, will the new intel i9-12900KS / Asus Rog Max z690 hero ddr5 support ddr5 ram higher than 5200mhz? like say 5600mhz ram?
just a question but how many times have you run these benchmarks for your average scores and fps?
I’m so confused as to why your 3090 is relatively scoring so low compared to other cards though? Is there something anecdotal we should know about your 3090 used in testing?
How it compare to the 3090 Suprim X ?
(Im getting same score in Port Royal on mine in a lazy built pc).
Still rocking my Suprim X 3090 just fine. I am pretty sure i can pass next 2 generations with ease,
Edit: Actually i was expecting a PSU higher than 1k watts for that as i use a Dark Power 12 Tita 80+ with 1k watts for the non ti 3090.
Hi sir, I have a question for you! I am having a msi meg x570 godlike motherboard with rtx 2080ti. Can my x570 be used with rtx 3090ti? I'm planning to upgrade my GPU. Thanks!
Those numbers are all over the place... Definitely seems like different drivers were used. When the 3080 is beating the 3090 something is wrong.
A question I had as well. How recent are his 3080/3090/6900 XT numbers?
With how much this card is the 6800xt/6900xt are looking amazing at their price points.
Curious if the card will pull more from the PCIe slot than 75 watts
I have the Power Color Red Devil RX 6900xt, in OC mode, I never reached near the 94.6c that you have listed. What card are you using for your tests?
Hi Paul/anyone, Sorry for asking about a 1 year old vid but.. why does the 3090 get beaten by the 3080Ti and (even a 3070Ti once) in quite a few places? It seems to be at the 1080 where things get wierderst, then at 1440 too sometimes.. but.. why would that be ? Looks like they tie or it beats the 3080ti by a smidge at 4k.
Did you re-test Flight Simulator with all cards? Looks like a game update effect to me (back in summer 2021).
weird that it has such an advantage in flight simulator but not in cyberpunk? were the benchmarks accurate?
“Oh and you get a mouse pad too”
i had a question....what is the ram and speed you use for the test bench?
I hope I don't inquire in something you've covered before, but sometime in a new video, would you please elaborate on how certain resolutions dodge being CPU bound? Thanks Paul 💪
I got the FTW3 Ultra 3090 Ti this morning on Newegg. Gonna do a comparison to the 3090 Kingpin.
Paul, you should really do a "catch up on GPU's" videos. With prices coming down and actual choices in stock, it would be good to know what you recommend for 1080p, high refresh 1440p etc.
3080 Ti is the class act I'm going to get... at the END of April..... Certainly no FOOL would buy it on the first.
hashrates? mem junc temps?
Does the 3090 ti FE run cooler than the Suprim X ?
If you are getting this for VR, like I did, research first, it seems there is a hardware issue that prevents this card from being normally used for VR, you will need a display port signal booster. I spent a whole day trying to use my headsets and non of them worked until I contacted nvidia and they told me the problem. It sucks.
The dual bios feature on cards is very stupid. I mean, who bothers opening his case to flip the switch on/off? My card (MSI 6600 XT Gaming) has much better design, the GPU fans are completely off unless the GPU starts being hot. In practice, they are always off when I'm doing desktop stuff, and still off if I'm playing low-GPU usage games like Fall Guys. They only turn on when I'm playing graphic intensive games. It's awesome, no bios switch required.
odd question i got into the pc world about 2yrs ago i have a mini pc do i have to get a mini graphics card...? lo
Just buy a Graphics card that fits in the case. You probably need a smaller 2 fan, like a zotac.
9:13 performance of the 6800XT and 6900XT is impossible
Pretty interesting how efficient the 3090 ti can be. Saw the Igors lab video and got myself a 3090 ti and will limit it to 300w. I mean as it’s almost the same cost as the 3090 or 3080ti and in some instances even cheaper why not
were did you even buy this card specifically?
What is going on with the 6800XT beating the 6900XT in some of these tests?
Yes, as a financial advisor I agree with you.
It is not the best Gpu for price/performance.
More interested about the full hd benchmarks that show a 10% fps average improvement.
Maybe the best option is to buy it on the used market when the 4000 series come out.
-Niccolò Flori
Отличное видео. Автор молодец всё по полочкам разложил. Сеасибо
Great review Paul!
It would be interesting to see performance per watt by generation- the wattages on new high end cards just keep going up - are Nvidia
running out of runway on a per CUDA core perspective, does just adding more cores add performance in a linear fashion; or are the cores themselves are becoming more performant?
Hi, I’m looking for anyone to help with figure something out so I’m new to building a pc but I want to know if my motherboard will support quad channel because I want to run 4 sticks of ram but it says dual channel if I put 4 sticks of ram same brand and everything would it still work or would I have to get one with specific quad channel support??? And my motherboard is an asus rog strix x570-e gaming with a ryzen 7 5800x
Hash rate?
These are not mining cards, buy a CMP card or ASIC instead
@@directionlessvelocity lol cmp 90hx is 50%
lower hash rate for the same power.... and same cost
At this rate the 5080 will be a standalone computer - integrating a mobo/processor, hd and ram into the build.
Still think that was the Reason why Nvidia wanted to get ARM. And i still think that this will be a Thing at some Point.
AMD just explained how 3D V-Cache works and they also made clear that you can put other Things on there as well. Not only Cache.
@@flimermithrandir interesting.
@@flimermithrandir nah, not really.
dunno how serious you are but that aint how it works.
Not that it wouldn't be possible, but it doesn't make sense in so many ways, what you said.
There are computers than that 3090 ti. But nvidia cannot make none of that, they have neither required licenses nor even close to the required technology.
Say they partnered up with arm, samsung and some mobo maker, it still would make 0 sense to make such a thing.
Although fyi, there are older motherboards with integrated graphics. Well, most processers have graphics anyways.
It's 100x more likely that intel would do such a thing than nvidia. Is the point. Kinda.
Pretty sure its just stock footage but the previews for your benchmarks in the top right are very stuttery. Is this actual gameplay from the 3090Ti as I'd class that kind of jittering as unplayable. Its notable in more than one game.
Good video... altho realistically.. i can nvr see myself buying this card even if its readily available.. think a 3080 or 6800xt/6900xt is more efficient cost to performance
Hey Paul, I have a question as I'm watching this video. I have an EVGA Supernova 1000 P2 80+ Platinum power supply, I've used it now in 3 complete upgrades over the last 5 years of my personal rig, Do PSUs of this high-grade intensity have a life expectancy or am I doing good? I posted this on your Twitter as well.
5 years is within minimum expected. Most good ones last 7-10 years, also it doesn't just pop one day, sometimes its a slow death because it starts to lag in transient response timing, you'll know it when ya see it kinda thing tho.
Anytime ya statt something that pull's a lot juice it'll start Blue screening or etc.
Also something worth mentioning for PSUs like 2016 or older it may not hold up to the random spiking that the 30 series is known for.
Ge the 3080 is speced for 350 watts, sometimes it spikes to 450 Watts for like 5-10ms and the psu craps the bed.
Hope that's helpful!
@@Dracossaint Very cool thanks for the info and response! I have the 5900X and MSI 3090 Ventus at the moment and everything is running stable, knock on wood.
Where the heck can I get ones of these?
I would be much more interested in a rundown of all available APUs
Who else came to watch Paul's video first? Excellent!