i read 3 colleen hoover books and my life has been changed... for the WORST

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @gabrielafrancois7175
    @gabrielafrancois7175 2 года назад +3754

    Thank you, Mel, for confirming why I will NEVER read CoHo. She won't get a penny of mine or a minute of my time.

    • @magdaibrahim3195
      @magdaibrahim3195 2 года назад +158

      I never read a single book of hers but I know they're all trash, thank god my friend has a copy of her "it ends with us" book so I borrowed it to confirm why I have a hatred for her without helping her gain money when there's much better books out their that deserve the attention.

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +51

      @@magdaibrahim3195 imo it ends with us could’ve been amazing it just lacked good writing oh well… my friend got me verity I’m scared to read it not cause it’s a horror book but bc of the writing🙄

    • @magdaibrahim3195
      @magdaibrahim3195 2 года назад +13

      @@ranyaal3013 Well good luck to both of us reading her books because I can literally feel the headache that I'll be getting if I even manage to read any of her books. I'm so tempted to just give the book back to my friend cuz I can't stand bad writing

    • @Parkervandev
      @Parkervandev 2 года назад +32

      I always borrow my friend’s books (she’s obsessed with CoHo). It’s also hilarious to see how oblivious she is to the abuse , I should probably keep an eye on her though.

    • @magdaibrahim3195
      @magdaibrahim3195 2 года назад +21

      @@Parkervandev lol have you tried talking to her and showing how messed up the books are? She's probably new to reading cuz there's no way that someone that has read for years and seen actual good books would like CoHo's books

  • @little.prince
    @little.prince 2 года назад +4083

    “We looked at our son’s big balls and laughed.”
    I haven’t read Hoover ever and I probably won’t ever, I really do not wanna know the context to that line. 😂

    • @rudainareaz8762
      @rudainareaz8762 2 года назад +582

      the context somehow makes it worse because they're STEP SIBLINGS 😭😭

    • @bruh......2005
      @bruh......2005 2 года назад +196

      I quitted this book months ago, but after reading that line.... I don't think I'm missing out on anything good

    • @Iloveyouruikamishiro
      @Iloveyouruikamishiro 2 года назад +26

      Yes the balls he is playing... Yes... It is just the balls he is playing with...

    • @Dreaming_Aya
      @Dreaming_Aya 2 года назад +8

      @@Iloveyouruikamishiro is it sport balls or body part balls ??

    • @Iloveyouruikamishiro
      @Iloveyouruikamishiro 2 года назад +14

      @@Dreaming_Aya Oh no, why does my comment sound so wrong-

  • @OwOchakoUwUraka
    @OwOchakoUwUraka 2 года назад +3333

    idk how the bookmedia girlies got the feels from coho all i got was second hand embarrassment

    • @paperbackfern
      @paperbackfern 2 года назад +55

      Literally

    • @Nathi98
      @Nathi98 2 года назад +104

      I listened to another Booktuber's review on November 9
      All I got was the heebie jeebies

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +125

      No the way she uses literal TRAUMAAAA as a plot twist?

    • @sudelara2991
      @sudelara2991 2 года назад +97

      Probably cause non of them are actual readers and have only began getting into reading recently

    • @luvforhui
      @luvforhui 2 года назад +20

      @@ranyaal3013 i think i saw somewhere that shes been in an abusive relationship before and this was her way to cope? so maybe thats the reason? or shes just really fucking weird

  • @graceallsop8705
    @graceallsop8705 2 года назад +3074

    ur the breath of fresh air we needed because I was getting really worried that people were willing to die for colleen

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +17

      Oh honey they still are…. But yknow cant be mad at it ig?

    • @zoerose3478
      @zoerose3478 2 года назад +87

      @@ranyaal3013 I can and I will

    • @canwegetmuchhigher729
      @canwegetmuchhigher729 2 года назад

      They can die than

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +10

      @@zoerose3478 of course you can this is a whole comment section that just doesn’t like her writing personally but if you do read as much as you want. In my opinion she had good ideas she just doesn’t execute them in a way that I would prefer

    • @zoerose3478
      @zoerose3478 2 года назад +73

      @@ranyaal3013 I was just kidding tbh but honestly these books have become so popular I think it genuinely is causing harm especially to younger women and girls reading them, we really do need people with platforms to tell them that these books/their messages/themes are not to be taken seriously 🤷‍♀️ as much as people may enjoy reading them

  • @booksyesterday
    @booksyesterday 2 года назад +1264

    my university book club read november 9 together, and let me tell you that weeks meeting was RUTHLESS

  • @perkins1198
    @perkins1198 2 года назад +1835

    Confess was my first Collen Hoover and last. “She writes like she’s sending a tweet” sent meeeeee because YES. Her book lacked SO much depth, care, and thought. Im convinced they are lifetime movies in book form. Thank you for mentioning that we’ve all fallen in love with books that didn’t represent their topics/content correctly, but we can and should do better moving forward. ❤

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +44

      YES SHE LACKS SOOOOOOO MUCH DEPTH JT ENDS WITH US HAD SOME BUT SHE REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE MORE WRITING CLASSES

    • @fyysha
      @fyysha 2 года назад +11

      By this point shes just writing smut for her own pleasure and publishing them because she knows she'll make money from it 🙄

    • @jurassic900
      @jurassic900 Год назад +1

      Confess was also my first CoHo book and probably the last. I read it after seeing the tv show and I quite like both of them so I don't want to tarnish that feeling with these clearly inferior other books.

    • @kthsnriki9895
      @kthsnriki9895 Год назад +4

      even tweets are more entertaining than her books tbh

  • @sapphic_snail
    @sapphic_snail 2 года назад +724

    Fun fact (not really):
    November 9th used to have a rape scene in it, but CoHo had to change it because there was backlash. 😬
    Caleb Joseph has a really good video that talks about it: “A complete history on my feud with Colleen Hoover”
    Edit: tysm for the likes! I really appreciate it 💙

    • @klee5981
      @klee5981 2 года назад +96

      love to see Caleb finally being vindicated lol

    • @alinaschmidt7330
      @alinaschmidt7330 2 года назад +2

      Doesnt it kinda have a rape scene in it ? Or at least almost

    • @sapphic_snail
      @sapphic_snail 2 года назад +50

      @@alinaschmidt7330 Yeah, I mean she didn’t really want to do it, soooo I would consider that rape. Idk, I’ve never actually read the book, I’ve just watched people (Caleb Joseph) discussing it. 😂

    • @Duhgel
      @Duhgel 2 года назад +52

      Caleb ahead of his time, he's a gem

    • @eyesfullofstars13
      @eyesfullofstars13 Год назад +53

      @@alinaschmidt7330 I’m pretty sure the main character said “stop” during an intimate moment. She said it’s because ‘she didn’t know if she wanted it or not’ or something. Colleen Hoover probably wanted to make it seem OKAY by writing that. I get that some people think that the main character wasn’t thinking when she said ‘stop’ but nooo it’s literally SA

  • @brionasky
    @brionasky 2 года назад +1029

    So let me get this straight, CoHos mom was in an abusing relationship and she writes books with toxic abusive relationships and glamorizes them. I don’t understand why she does this

    • @Books-and-coffee0
      @Books-and-coffee0 2 года назад +103

      For this exact same reason. Because she grew up with this kind of abuse going on in her life and this is the normal for her.

    • @Duhgel
      @Duhgel 2 года назад +130

      @@Books-and-coffee0 ms gurl did not revisit her past then, no growth fr

    • @natu99_12
      @natu99_12 2 года назад +10

      wtf she doesn't glamorizes them

    • @Itzezyyyy
      @Itzezyyyy Год назад +121

      @@Books-and-coffee0 so she writes to cope then just profits off it whilst sending the wrong message to her fans? Sickening

    • @emotionaldamage9894
      @emotionaldamage9894 Год назад +66

      she thinks that's how she copes, she doesn't need to write books she needs therapy asap

  • @theapenning8944
    @theapenning8944 2 года назад +905

    I've never read any Colleen Hoover books and this video just cemented that I never will.

    • @KayReads__
      @KayReads__ 2 года назад +16

      Same here!!

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +21

      Don’t waste your time😍 I have verity on my shelf and it’s haunting me I might read it and update YALL….

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +11

      @@KayReads__ ALSO YOU ARE STUNNINGGGG NATURAL BEAUTY😩

    • @KayReads__
      @KayReads__ 2 года назад +7

      @@ranyaal3013 thank you so much!! ☺️😘

    • @ranyaal3013
      @ranyaal3013 2 года назад +1

      @@KayReads__ of courseeee

  • @ashoknegi5482
    @ashoknegi5482 2 года назад +428

    My opinion on collenhover. :
    1. She can write good RED FLAGS.
    2. She writes only red flags and romanticising it.
    3. she gives her character no background. Her books include a burn scar patient( November 9) . She pulls up this history and emotion in the girl that makes us belive she has no self esteem. However that isn't the problem. Maybe fallon is just super insecure. I don't blame her. But what gets on my nerves is that throughout the book, its never touched on again. Thus, she gives information that is crucial for the story like handing out pamphlets for a concert with no date on it. Its a flat graph.

  • @valeriaramos72
    @valeriaramos72 2 года назад +706

    can we talk about how in November 9th they make a comment about how the main character doesn't like books with insta love and the whole book is literally insta love

    • @zaynashamim
      @zaynashamim 2 года назад +117

      I think it was supposed to be some sort of ironic, quirky thing that failed miserably 😭😭

    • @klee_.fangirl
      @klee_.fangirl 2 года назад +66

      I think it was supposed to be ironic but it failed and came off as cringe

    • @namkia205
      @namkia205 Год назад

      And Ben doesn't even love her he even f*cked his dead brothers wife

    • @laa3078
      @laa3078 Год назад

      i liked it

  • @Rwebs
    @Rwebs 2 года назад +402

    The comments on this video pass the vibe check. So happy to know I’m not alone in my confusion in how everyone thinks CoHo is like the author out there 😅

  • @tangerinenoises
    @tangerinenoises 2 года назад +1684

    The fact that you called her "Mrs. Hoover" made me laugh because that's what my non-reading boyfriend calls her. As a extreme bookworm, I often call him for nearly four hours every day (excessive, I know) and tell him about the most recent book I'd read. Well. Let me tell you, after It Ends With Us, he begged me to read more Mrs. Hoover books because he thought it was hilarious how I droned on and on about that terrible book. Safe to say, I'll never purchase another Mrs. Hoover book for myself, but if he happens to buy me one for Christmas, I'll be reading it and telling him my very, very unkind review

  • @hadacristalina
    @hadacristalina 2 года назад +146

    I would never forget CoHo for this line in Ugly Love: "we both laugh at our son's big balls" like wtf was that😭

  • @deniseflaibam4813
    @deniseflaibam4813 2 года назад +429

    Somebody convinced me to read November 9 after I hated Ugly Love, promising it would be "the best romance story ever, and that it would redeem COHO to me"......... I relate to your pain in so many levels in regards of this experience. It hurts. You echoed my soul in this video. The fact that it is sold as a ROMANCE, that a person came to me and said that this story was THE BEST I honestly have no words in english portuguese or spanish (and if I spoke another language, I wouldn't be able to find a word in it too).

    • @lipglossgirl50
      @lipglossgirl50 2 года назад +30

      november 9 is fucking. awful. worst book i’ve ever read and i’m so passionate about that

    • @mat3372
      @mat3372 2 года назад +22

      Sometimes I am amazed when I read such books, because then I think of the complex plots, unforgettable scenes full of emotion, and well-characterized characters that I find in ao3 fanfiction and wonder how publishers manage to publish such crap.

    • @deniseflaibam4813
      @deniseflaibam4813 2 года назад +6

      @@mat3372 yes???? there are so many AMAZING books out there. Here in Brazil one of coho's books was the top 1 seller of the year and that's my villain origin story T_T

    • @mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524
      @mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524 Год назад +2

      I trusted pple and read ugly love after my disappointment with it ends with us , girl i never felt angry reading a book as i did while reading it so definitely not giving November 9 a chance cuz it seems way worse lol

  • @mylenebelanger6981
    @mylenebelanger6981 2 года назад +353

    I guessed the plot twist in November 9 in the first chapter 😂 the way he talked about her scars i thought was soooo suspicious .... like he wanted her to stop feeling sorry for herself so HE could move on

  • @yoongoongi4349
    @yoongoongi4349 2 года назад +504

    I was ruthlessly TRICKED into reading my second Colleen Hoover book last weekend and I literalllly felt like I needed therapy after and I had to pause midway to rant and rave to my friend for almost an hour just to make it through.

    • @shamrockkisses83
      @shamrockkisses83 Год назад

      So reading a book made you need therapy! First world problems. Bet you have one of thoes fancy water cups and are rude and don't tip servers

    • @yoongoongi4349
      @yoongoongi4349 Год назад +9

      @@shamrockkisses83 No actually I live under a bridge and only drink water out of the armpits of frogs

    • @Ich-Existiere-Nicht
      @Ich-Existiere-Nicht Год назад +2

      ​@@yoongoongi4349Without context this is comment is so funny. ✋🏻😭😂

  • @p1kkuma
    @p1kkuma 2 года назад +340

    Seeing other people’s positive reviews on CoHo books honestly just makes me question whether we read the same book or not lol

    • @kookiecream7259
      @kookiecream7259 2 года назад +38

      Almost an year ago I gave it ends with us 5 stars now I will give it 2 stars. Trust the growth process

    • @paulahernandez2470
      @paulahernandez2470 Год назад +5

      Happened the same to me but with the series of the maze runner, worst series I have ever read boring as hell but everyone loves them and I don't get it. Those books put me to sleep in 2 minutes

  • @abigailsledd
    @abigailsledd 2 года назад +72

    Caleb Joseph has a great video about his longstanding criticisms and ""feud"" with Colleen Hoover if anyone in the comments wants some more breakdowns of her writing :))

  • @ro.demigodcos
    @ro.demigodcos 2 года назад +49

    And yet the saddest thing about her books is that the covers are genuinely so pretty. I think that it's so annoying that bad books such as hers get cute covers, yet most good books have lowkey shirty ones

    • @katiethewise
      @katiethewise Год назад +2

      exactly

    • @enyakarkkainen9523
      @enyakarkkainen9523 Год назад +5

      That's so true! I've also noticed that with Japanese books, not light novels (they have some pretty good covers). Some great Japanese thriller books have some generic, low quality stock flower photos with a Microsoft Word font on them and I'm like ??? and the book turns out to be great (example: ユージニア). I know, never judge a book by its cover, but if it didn't get the 直木三十五賞 prize I wouldn't have even considered reading it. Same can be said about books in all other languages.

  • @nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
    @nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme 2 года назад +383

    I lose a few thousand braincells every time I see the girls in my class gushing over a colleen hoover book. Bestie, I know there's smut in that and you're fourteen.

    • @mkay2998
      @mkay2998 2 года назад +46

      likr fr tho, just got out of my wattpad phase and i thought 'why not give romance book a go?' then i saw all the hype, i was so confused so i pulled up some reviews AND HERE WE GO LMAOOO , it's crazy cuz not many girls in my class have/had wattpad so i can see why they get excited but babes pls stop idolizing coho

    • @briellejade._
      @briellejade._ Год назад +9

      @@mkay2998 Yeah, there are much better popular books with smut that they can read instead. I don't even think Coho's books should be marketed as romance, except maybe Heart Bones which I surprisingly did like.

    • @ishikajoseph
      @ishikajoseph Год назад +5

      lmaoaoao same, almost any girl ik in my grade has read coho book and they liked it, heck i have this girl who made a video about toxic men but said coho ones was an exception

    • @nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
      @nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme Год назад +1

      @@ishikajoseph oh no

    • @sofitssofi
      @sofitssofi Год назад +12

      I'm a teacher and I see the kids read this and wonder if I should say something. I am genuienly worried

  • @ishaagarwal165
    @ishaagarwal165 2 года назад +303

    The biggest issue i have with the writers writing such wattpad -fanfics kinda books is that if you are publishing your work, so that people would Literally PAY to read your work, just atleast make your work worth the readers Money AND Time. Because i can literally find no difference whatsoever between a few CoHo books and the Wattpad/ao3 stuff I've read,if anything some wattpad books are even better than some of her books and EVEN HAVE A PLOTLINE FOR GODS SAKE.!!
    And honestly it just makes my blood boil even thinking about the fact that there are so so so many amazing writers out there who are not appreciated enough just beacuse a large mass of readers ( INCLUDING some people in their early 20's) invest in CoHo and such other writers.
    Also, tbh i personally feel that CoHo books are for the people who didn't go through their "Wattpad" phase in their early teens , and are thus making up for it it in their adult years by such books.Not to mention the fact that those books are literally sold as a romance genre books, but clearly contain A LOT MORE than just that. It also needs to be pointed out that just because your books has a bit of smut in it doesn't mean it is a romance book.

    • @kaewasyul
      @kaewasyul 2 года назад +72

      I feel the smüt in AO3(and sometimes even plot) is better than coho. AO3 writers are diff breed i swear!

    • @ishaagarwal165
      @ishaagarwal165 2 года назад +15

      @@kaewasyul EXACTLY my point.!

    • @lapissalem9478
      @lapissalem9478 2 года назад +9

      wattpad has some good books

    • @kaewasyul
      @kaewasyul 2 года назад +22

      @@lapissalem9478 ao3 is sm better tho😭

    • @asterisk_fr
      @asterisk_fr 2 года назад +19

      please, wattpad has great books, i hate that everyones saying "some". Many wattpad books have even gotten published as real books the "How To Be The Best Thirdwheel" for instance. Wattpad is where stories live and all those smut and fanfics arent real books honestly. But Wattpad is a great platform for readers and writers

  • @ErinaBleu
    @ErinaBleu 2 года назад +21

    what you said at the end about "if it gets people reading that's one thing, but i do think there's bigger conversations to be had" because YESSSS i love that some books/series/authors get popular online because it gets people into reading. BUT. there are WAY better things that people could be reading that DON'T normalize abuse (and are written better).

  • @salmaramirez4578
    @salmaramirez4578 2 года назад +153

    YESSSS FINALLYYYYY!!!!!!!! I’ve just read one Colleen Hoover book before and it was Ugly Love, and I never understood why everyone liked it so much but I was not wrong girl. You brought every valid point in that book 👏🏻

  • @eda.98
    @eda.98 2 года назад +155

    Ugly Love was my first and definitely last CoHo book omg. This book is so so bad and the “my God, Rachel” scene was just the last straw for me WTFFFF

    • @Hidden_kpopstan
      @Hidden_kpopstan 2 года назад +14

      Omg same!! My brother got it for me on Christmas cause I wanted to try her books and…never again

    • @Neha_Sidar
      @Neha_Sidar 2 года назад +5

      Same goes for me. For the hype I bought the book and it was awful.

  • @Garci_BH
    @Garci_BH 2 года назад +123

    I haven’t fully read a Colleen Hoover book because every time I pick one up it don’t pull me in or I dnf. I’m so glad someone is calling her out on books that be so hyped for no reason. I don’t ever plan on trying to read her books ever again so I’m just going to take your word and my experience for it.

  • @Theofficialskzdormricecooker
    @Theofficialskzdormricecooker 2 года назад +32

    I've seen few girls in my class read those and tell me that she is a great writer and they genuinely love it, I can tell they love it because they look so excited when they tell me that, I always thought her books were not really to my liking but lately I've been concerned with what my friends have been reading

  • @lionmuesli4321
    @lionmuesli4321 2 года назад +80

    My "favourite" "funfact" about CoHo is that November 9 had a glorified SA scene that got edited out after the author got backlash for that scene. Like w h a t?!

  • @circusm0use
    @circusm0use 2 года назад +102

    to be completely honest, i used to really enjoy colleen hoover's books (except for ugly love, i gave that shit 1 star since the beginning). i went through a whole CoHo phase during the middle of the year, but looking back i can't believe i missed all the red flags in her writing. upon reflection, i started realizing how problematic and harmful her books were and i had to do some self reflection on why i ever enjoyed the books to begin with.

    • @chilling_koala
      @chilling_koala 2 года назад +31

      At least you realized these things. But what's up with the girls who doesn't? They end up with the Miles's, Ben's and Dean Holder's of the world

    • @p1kkuma
      @p1kkuma 2 года назад +24

      Good on you for reflecting on yourself! And I’m glad you were able to realize it!

    • @deannascorner8112
      @deannascorner8112 2 года назад +9

      I’m very much going through this reflection period too…

    • @natu99_12
      @natu99_12 2 года назад

      @@chilling_koala and what's wrong with ben or dean?

    • @FirstnameLastname-zq8oy
      @FirstnameLastname-zq8oy Год назад +3

      @@natu99_12 is this a joke. I don’t know much about dean but from what I’ve heard about November 9, Ben is a massive walking red flag.

  • @galaxygrl_
    @galaxygrl_ Год назад +15

    November 9 is literally a psychological horror

  • @asterisk_fr
    @asterisk_fr 2 года назад +16

    Babe, tysm for this, i will never read Mrs. Hoover ever again. I read a bit of Ugly Love and honestly its been a nightmare, a total wattpad fanfic and everytime i look at her picture she looks so innocent- Tysm for the review though, steering clear of this writer at all costs, subscribing now

  • @Marie-es9nu
    @Marie-es9nu 2 года назад +52

    I read „Ugly Love“ because it was so hyped on social media and when I tell you that it was horrible I'm just telling the truth. I've never picked up a ChHo book since then and I've never been happier

  • @arminarlert6011
    @arminarlert6011 2 года назад +31

    I love how we are finally speaking up about CoHo not being a good writer

  • @monkebrainiac
    @monkebrainiac 2 года назад +55

    never read a book from this author but i loooved caleb joseph's vid about this author cause it was so fun and informative and im so glad i pressed on your vid too lmao youre so funny and also reallyyyy well spoken. i dont have to read these books thanks to u

    • @luvforhui
      @luvforhui 2 года назад +18

      even funnier bc his like 15? yr old self hated her from the beginning lmao. a 15 yr old can identify that these books r not worthy of so much praise rather than 30 yr olds 💀

    • @monkebrainiac
      @monkebrainiac 2 года назад +6

      @@luvforhui true lmao hes been at her from the staaaart XD

    • @Duhgel
      @Duhgel 2 года назад +4

      @@luvforhui he's a pioneer fr

  • @Diaryofahappyadult
    @Diaryofahappyadult 2 года назад +17

    Thank You Thank You so much for saying the truth and especially highlighting the misogyny part. It is so sad to see that young teenage girls actually think that her books are romantic and loving. My foot! Similarly books like Twisted love is another hell on earth that is written to make women go against each other for stupid guy's attention but I loved your observation.

  • @picklepirate
    @picklepirate Год назад +16

    I LOVE this video. Colleen tells instead of showing.
    I hate when she tells us how “hot” someone is, and is trash at actually writing character development.
    Every page is like horrible porn acting.
    Total lack of subtlety.

  • @jasminedickson1063
    @jasminedickson1063 Год назад +1

    Immediately new fav booktuber, editing and video format on point and you just seem like a bestie xx!!!!

  • @samanthayates4753
    @samanthayates4753 2 года назад +40

    Yes!! I read This Ends With Us - the trauma-dump trauma-driven plot upset me and made me so uncomfortable. I also hated the writing. You could not pay me to read anything else from her 🙃

  • @astrawwberri
    @astrawwberri 2 года назад +48

    Just saw my middle school classmates reading CoHo and giggling about it. For them, it must have been a GIFT FROM THE HEAVENS. Can’t wait till they mature and cringe at it 😂😂😂

  • @erinartypants6673
    @erinartypants6673 Год назад +2

    After reading through the comments, I feel like I have found my people! Mel, you are such a hero!❤

  • @kidneystonequeen
    @kidneystonequeen 2 года назад +9

    This is my first video of yours, found it as I was looking for a scathing review of Hoover's books lol and im only a few minutes in but I have to say I love your editing style and the little visual elements you have throughout the video as well as the depth you go into in the reviews, im excited to watch more!

  • @JennaKiely
    @JennaKiely 2 года назад +52

    November 9 clout is wild to me!!! I feel like I read a different book from the people that said they love it!

  • @nikkicarothers4773
    @nikkicarothers4773 2 года назад +7

    I am so glad I found this!! I thought I was the only one that couldn’t stand her books. I read Ugly Love and my friend has convinced me to give her another chance with It Ends With Is and I’m struggling to finish it 😩

  • @aleksandrakoc1431
    @aleksandrakoc1431 Год назад +7

    Language is not toxic. Ugly love I mean. It's just bad writing. I started reading this book to see what the hype is about. I was laughing reading this. I used to read fan fic blogs that's were better written. I honestly can't believe book like this was even published

  • @margar3181
    @margar3181 Год назад +2

    I love your reactions/faces while reading. 😊

  • @janeelizabxth
    @janeelizabxth Год назад +2

    Does anyone feel like Mel is just so much more knowledgeable no intellectual than other booktubers? She’s so real, aware, and insightful

  • @nejumadar
    @nejumadar 2 года назад +43

    I’m sorry you had to go thru this pain 😭 I’ve never tried a CoHo book because they just don’t sound like the kinds of books I’d reach out for and this video just cements the fact I will definitely never reach out for one.

  • @herseriallife
    @herseriallife 2 года назад +24

    I also read November 9, DNFd it 35% in. Decided to pick up the audiobook where I left the ebook and decided to rate it 2⭐️😅. The love interest gave me the creeps and the big reveal was wrong on so many levels… So 💯% agree with your review and your decision to never read this author. 🎉❤

  • @Nectareads
    @Nectareads 2 года назад +141

    Honestly, I used to love Colleen’s books, but i think the thing for me is… I started reading fantasy right after, and there’s so much more description in that genre. And even HD Carlton has a lot more depth, so it’s not a romance thing. It’s just a Colleen thing. My favorites were Ugly Love, Nov 9, and Maybe Someday. Either people lack the intelligence that other books (better books) contain, or they are purely there for storylines and not the writing. For instance, in Confess, the first chapter spoke about the main character losing her virginity at 15. Like detailed, and I… dnf automatically. I think colleen is a beginner author for adults tbfh. Like when people are just getting back to reading or just starting out. By all means, you do you, but there’s so much cringe and lack of effort half the time.
    I will also say that I 100% believe that these books could be so good if it weren’t CoHo writing them. If there was more character development, a better range of descriptive words, more effort put into these characters where they didn’t seem so manipulative and toxic, etc.
    ANOTHER THING: I spent ages 15-19 in the most toxic relationship. I haven’t been in a toxic one since, I l think? But I also never went to therapy yet due to financial problems. (I am 25). So, I will admit I am a bit desensitized to these things as well, and as much as I’d like to say so, I can’t always differentiate toxic behavior. Having lived my entire teen years dating someone who would constantly put me down emotionally and mentally, it’s still hard to know when something is considered toxic, as my experience is different and my own. Same with any other victim. I still have issues in my relationships now because of this. It is hard to tell the difference sometimes in kindness and toxicity. Especially when gaslighting and manipulation is present (which I’ve come to learn a lot of CoHo books have). So, like Mel says, we can’t always blame the person for liking CoHo as most people have become desensitized as a society, but we can definitely talk about the issues present.

    • @thelibbrary
      @thelibbrary 2 года назад +9

      YES. I used to LOVE CoHo until I started reading more and realizing...yikes

    • @Jana-fs2qf
      @Jana-fs2qf 2 года назад +5

      I've read a couple of CoHos books, and they are the books you read for thoughtlessness and sheer entertainment. You don't need to put a lot of thought or effort into her books and its easy and fast paced. That is why I think she is so popular in the first place. I enjoy that sometimes.

    • @alexandraseabrook9242
      @alexandraseabrook9242 2 года назад +5

      I agree with what you said here--especially about this COULD be decent storylines with someone else authoring them. For me, it seems like CoHo is totally not self-aware and it shows in the writing. For example, it is absolutely OK and possible, and even needed sometimes to write about manipulative, toxic relationships. But when you have your female characters just accepting this behavior from their lovers, not questioning it, and normalizing it--it sends a strange message to readers. How about some original thought from the female characters? How about a female character who chooses through character development to walk away from that type of relationship? How about subverting the narrative that every single woman ends up in a manipulative relationship in the first place? Heck, even exploring a relationship where a female is toxic and her male partner must work for personal growth would be more interesting.
      CoHo comes so close to the point and yet still misses it.

    • @Nectareads
      @Nectareads Год назад

      @@Jana-fs2qf yesss!! As long as you go in open minded and not expecting the best thing you’ve ever read (personally), they can be good for slumps because they’re quick and short!

    • @FirstnameLastname-zq8oy
      @FirstnameLastname-zq8oy Год назад +1

      I disagree that CoHos book are good beginner books for adults 💀 I’m sorry but no grown adult should be reading CoHo books and enjoying it lmfaoo. I can excuse teenage girls reading those books because a lot of teenagers go through a phase of reading cringey wattpad fanfiction which they soon grow out of, but adults reading CoHo books for fun gives me second hand embarrassment 💀💀

  • @fkiffen1625
    @fkiffen1625 Год назад +13

    I read it ends with us, it starts with us and ugly love so far and honestly since getting into reading and actually good literature I’ve been placing those books on shelves further and further away from the GOOD books that I own, because it literally just feels disrespectful towards my good books to put miss colleen next to them on the same shelf.

    • @enyakarkkainen9523
      @enyakarkkainen9523 Год назад +1

      I'd tell you to donate them to a library, but I'd feel really bad for the librarian and the unsuspecting readers that frequent said library. 💀

    • @saraimarks3044
      @saraimarks3044 Год назад

      It Ends With Us was okay, but I didn't like the writing style. Ugly Love was traumatizing for me. It was a little too much for me, considering that I'm a sixteen year old, but I wanted to read it and I didn't even finish it.

  • @Bea_v_
    @Bea_v_ 2 года назад +24

    I read Verity and thought it was interesting. I haven’t been very interested in other CoHo books because I heard that most are toxic. I almost bought one of her "romance" books out of curiosity of the hype, but I’m glad you made this video. I now have no desire to find out what her books are about by reading them myself 🙃

    • @canwegetmuchhigher729
      @canwegetmuchhigher729 2 года назад +6

      Verity is her only good book imo because it's thriller. Her romance books are dogshit.

    • @roselane8152
      @roselane8152 2 года назад +6

      I didn't like Verity either, so shallow in all aspects.

    • @Bell_414
      @Bell_414 Год назад

      I read somewhere that Verity is inspired from a book named Rebecca, which is a gothic and dark themed book. Maybe you could check that out too

  • @toodlesx_x
    @toodlesx_x Год назад +8

    Because of Booktok, I was so ready to buy a good amount of her books and then I learnt. It's safe to say money was saved

    • @enyakarkkainen9523
      @enyakarkkainen9523 Год назад +1

      Same. I rarely buy English books, but when I do, I buy them in bulk. I bought one ebook of hers to test the waters, fully intending on buying more later, and mentally defenestrated myself.

  • @simranpreetsingh7363
    @simranpreetsingh7363 Год назад +1

    Yes b, I didn’t appreciate her writing too much either and I could never put my finger on it. You’re amazing at what you do!!

  • @gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476
    @gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476 2 года назад +6

    I love watching people tearing CoHo's books up, loved the vid!

  • @viir.lfc94
    @viir.lfc94 2 года назад +97

    I've never had an interest in reading Colleen Hoover but after this video I am 100% sure I will never read one single line from her. I've looked up the plot twist to November 9th and man, that's terrible. I'm so sorry that you had to go through this, I really am sorry 😂

    • @kaewasyul
      @kaewasyul 2 года назад +16

      same girl! i just watch these reviews for fun just to remind myself how reading colleen hoover is a waste of time

  • @christinerondeau474
    @christinerondeau474 Год назад +3

    Thank you so much for confirming my thoughts. I've only read 2 CH books and that's it. I'm done.

  • @cupidsangel5472
    @cupidsangel5472 2 года назад

    ur reading set up is such a vibe fr. Like the lighting, food, drinks, everything is such a vibe. Making me consider starting a reading routine lol

  • @hannahkay6964
    @hannahkay6964 2 года назад +5

    so many good points were made 🙌🏽 literally nodding along with you 😅

  • @mybookishdelights4767
    @mybookishdelights4767 2 года назад +18

    Ugly Love was the last book I read from her and I hated it. The final scene that was super sad (from his flashbacks) took me by surprise and traumatized me so much and I will never forgive her for that. Freaking warn a person!

  • @rachaelm7084
    @rachaelm7084 2 года назад +10

    I 1000% agree with you! These books need to come with large print disclaimers and a telephone number for the nearest helpline.

  • @MacSusi10
    @MacSusi10 2 года назад +13

    I've read one of her books years ago. Don't remember which one but still remember that the story started with happy vibes and turned into dark and depressing one. It was so disturbing that I was forced to open a bottle of wine to get through reading it. Never again.

  • @SabinesBookNook
    @SabinesBookNook 2 года назад +10

    I read Confess this year to see whether I still liked her work (I also liked it when I was around 16 years old, just like most girls who read it right now) and I DESPISE HER WORK omg. It's so toxic and the men are THE WORST. Every time someone buys a CoHo book in my bookstore, I'm like noooooo whyyyyy 😩😩😩 there are so many books that have an amazing romance without the toxicity

    • @Alyse_bell
      @Alyse_bell Год назад

      Can you recommend some good romance authors or some good books in that genre?

  • @DJ_1981
    @DJ_1981 2 года назад +2

    Just found your channel and I'm ready to binge! I love your intro with the ramen. I had to go grab myself a bowl before continuing lol

  • @crimsonkiss13
    @crimsonkiss13 2 года назад +21

    Thank you for pointing out the toxicity of these "romance" books. Every time someone asks if I've read them I say no and it isn't my kind of read. Cause I would be doing the same as you in this video 🤣

  • @ehtishamulhaq5101
    @ehtishamulhaq5101 2 года назад +70

    thank god..finally someone like me who realizes Ugly Love is problematic. so so problamatic. I DNFed it because it was getting horrible with every line.

    • @saraimarks3044
      @saraimarks3044 Год назад +1

      I do as well. It was really disturbing and I was so uncomfortable that I couldn't even finish the book.

  • @hanluvs
    @hanluvs Год назад +4

    yall look, everyone keeps saying "stop jumping on the hate train" "why Is everyone just starting to hate her" "the switch up" like girl, first of all I AM DRIVING THAT DAMN TRAIN, second of all, her books SUCK and I mean it, who the fuck writes about "we laughed at our sons big balls" RIGHT BEFORE THE SON DIES?? LIKE DO YALL UNDERSTAND THIS WOMAN WAS THINKING OF THIS? SHE LITERALLY WAS LIKE "lemme make them laugh at their to-be-dead sons big balls right before tragedy" LIKE SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS WRITING... ITS SO FUCKING CRAZY OMG

  • @theflea9091
    @theflea9091 2 года назад +8

    it's so weird and concerning that people seem to think this is the peak of literature or something

  • @isabellajontz
    @isabellajontz 2 года назад +4

    great comments! i felt the same way about colleen hoovers writing

  • @Ssaihra
    @Ssaihra 2 года назад +19

    YES! The books are awfull, I'm scared and also worried about Colleen like those men exist in her life or what? Really, having all the goosebumps right now but you're flawless in those reviews and in expressin yout opinions!

  • @bisoudange
    @bisoudange 2 года назад +12

    OKAY SOOOO I was recommended to read this book Ugly Love, in fact I did read a bit. As soon as I read the first chapter, I shut the book and threw it at my friend's face. I think in the worst chapter itself when Miles muttered "Rachel" in his sleep (I don't remember anything honestly) it was a red flag for me.

  • @hadeel_K
    @hadeel_K 2 года назад +1

    Thumbs up for the video 👍🏻 this year I was looking forward to reading colleen’s romance books I started with ugly love, then verity and finally November 9! It’s safe to say I’m not a fan and will never pick up or recommend her books. The dynamics of her main characters showcase the beginning of a typically abusive relationship. My main problem is the conclusion and the message her books send to readers, especially young vulnerable easily impressionable readers. Well done for creating this video and real analysis 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @liareads8475
    @liareads8475 Год назад +5

    I read Verity (my first CoHo book) after seeing all the posts and videos about how everyone was loving her. I finished the book and I was upset since I hated the experience. After looking more into it, her books have a lot of red flags stuff sold as romance. I’m not about romanticizing all these.
    I was so uncomfortable reading Verity the entire time and that’s not what I want to feel when I’m reading. Reading is my form of escapism. I don’t want to be uncomfortable about it.

    • @ScrapIrma
      @ScrapIrma Год назад

      Verity was my first CH book too. It was so poorly written and developed. Her female characters are pathetic and. Ot inspirational for women

  • @Ninquellote
    @Ninquellote 2 года назад +5

    “Fu*k the book, I need help” that really got me 😂❤

  • @JamieReads_1
    @JamieReads_1 2 года назад +4

    Yes, I feel you, girl. I have read 2 of her books and never again for myself. One of the ones I picked up was November 9. I hated both books I have read from here. 🖤💚🖤💚

  • @aiden14412
    @aiden14412 Год назад +1

    It's good to see finally RUclips channels talk about coho books ! I was wondering why we never see the problem in this platform unlike twitter / Instagram

  • @lilyschwartz.
    @lilyschwartz. Год назад

    I’m loving your reactions and appreciate your commentary 🙌

  • @july3817
    @july3817 Год назад +9

    Ugly Love: sounds like something I would hate-read if I had an assignment on it
    It ends/starts with us: no, just no
    November 9: would rather read my organic chemistry book

  • @zhisu2665
    @zhisu2665 Год назад +1

    also I just noticed the orange cat in some scenes cracks me up

  • @jennyram6321
    @jennyram6321 2 года назад +9

    Yay another book RUclipsr to watch! And she’s funny? Subscribed! Also, as a glasses wearing girly, how do you not have makeup on your glasses at the end of the day? 😅

  • @proseandcons7730
    @proseandcons7730 Год назад +1

    I’ve read CoHo ‘ugly love’ when I was 18-19 (mind u not that many years ago) and at the time I didn’t mind it, but I never liked the book enough to continue with her books. Then I saw what other people had to say about her books and honestly I’m sooooo glad I did, because the negatives outweigh the positives and the undertone of abuse and toxicity in her books is revolting. I think she needs to seek professional help and reflect on how she romanticises these red flags and the massive impacts they have on her younger audiences and the ways in which they perceive love, relationships and even family dynamics.
    I agree wholeheartedly with everything you touched on sis! Keep at it❤

  • @jill8573
    @jill8573 Год назад +2

    I hope you do an update of new books from her.

  • @billiep1603
    @billiep1603 2 года назад +2

    You’re so brave to go through this for content 💕 CoHo makes me gag I could never do this

  • @lorifrederick2367
    @lorifrederick2367 Год назад +2

    I had "Ugly Love" in my hands at B&N. Carried it around the store. Put it down and picked up "Snow Hare", "Secret History", and "The Stolen Book. " (happy with my decision to put Ugly Love back down, you saved me!) Right now, I am reading "Babel."

  • @tearoses9940
    @tearoses9940 Год назад +2

    I’m the last person working at my summer job (everyone else is going back to school), and someone left It Starts With Us on the shelf. I’m kinda tempted to take it home and read it, just to see how bad it is lol

  • @adalisnegron4411
    @adalisnegron4411 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your honesty. I thought I was the only one that hated her books.

  • @herseriallife
    @herseriallife 2 года назад +5

    I just love your review of Ugly Love so much. I agree with every thing you said. And after reading 3 CoHo books, I have yet to read a book from this author that weren’t some kind of toxic and problematic. My final try will be Verity.

    • @kaewasyul
      @kaewasyul 2 года назад +1

      please tell me how it was once you finish reading it. i personally hate colleen hoover works, but people say verity is different and itsthriller(and i like thriller genre). so pleas can ya tell me how it was after you read it?

    • @herseriallife
      @herseriallife 2 года назад +3

      @@kaewasyul I should read Verity this month as it’s on my TBR, and I don’t want to bring it to 2023. I’ll let you know if it’s worth the hype (I also heard it’s a fan favorite!)

  • @Ayah.Papaya
    @Ayah.Papaya Год назад

    I see Strange the Dreamer and Muse of Nightmares on your shelf!!! I just finished Muse.. and OMG IT WAS SO GOOD!

    • @Ayah.Papaya
      @Ayah.Papaya Год назад

      Omg I also just noticed Circe and the entire Skyward series! I’ve only read skyward and starsight tho

  • @leighcochran8276
    @leighcochran8276 Год назад +1

    Hey! I decluttered every CoHo book I had a few days ago. I never grabbed for her books.

  • @LovelyLiz337
    @LovelyLiz337 Год назад +1

    This is the first video I have seen of yours. I like your opinions and definitely subscribing 😊 Also you are gorgeous 😍

  • @Nathi98
    @Nathi98 2 года назад +5

    I heard the ending of November 9 from another Booktuber's review - it was negative, don't worry - & I was livid!
    Fallon apologises to Ben for the fire he caused that nearly got her killed?

  • @mary-annv2140
    @mary-annv2140 2 года назад

    I am so glad you made this video because I almost picked up a few of the books in this video to give them a try myself and I think it would have just upset me. (I had seen someone in the past calling out the toxicity in the relationships but then they started blowing up on tiktok so I thought maybe they just interpreted it wrong or something) anyway, thanks for enduring for us!

  • @m69nlight
    @m69nlight 2 года назад +3

    thank you for this honest review of Ugly Love things had to be said

  • @bhavananadig7842
    @bhavananadig7842 Год назад +1

    I watched the cat look up to Mel screaming NOOO (4:14) and then just scream back and leave so many times that that's all I'm taking away from this video. I came for the rant and took away the gif of this scene.

  • @charliescozycorner
    @charliescozycorner 2 года назад +41

    In defence of Colleen, she has said that the relationships in her books aren’t to be desired because they are toxic relationships but at the same time, for the life of me I don’t understand how her books are so popular, the writing just isn’t for me

    • @AK-rx8gp
      @AK-rx8gp Год назад +6

      She says that but in so many of her books those abusive relationships end in happily ever after and act like the abuse wasn't abuse and was okay so.. what is she trying to say..

    • @spencerw4160
      @spencerw4160 Год назад +1

      She’s literally just write self indulgent toxic romance, people are angry because the books aren’t meant for them and don’t know they can just not read them lol

  • @racheldecker633
    @racheldecker633 2 года назад +6

    Yessssssss!! I read It Ends With Us a couple of months ago and hated it! I was seriously so confused- like why do people love these books!?!? I Tried again with Ugly Love just this week because I thought for sure I was missing something and I should give it another try… now I’m 100% sure I can live my life never reading another Colleen Hoover again 😆.

  • @johnnam1380
    @johnnam1380 Год назад

    Off-topic, but I am OBSESSED with your glasses! Where are they from?

  • @LilRedWitch
    @LilRedWitch Год назад +5

    Silver lining is that CoHo single handedly gave therapists jobs and more clients 💀

  • @enyakarkkainen9523
    @enyakarkkainen9523 Год назад +3

    Preach!!!
    I buy ebooks and then their physical counterparts if I end up enjoying them (because I like it when I have tangible possessions :D), so when I decided to start reading more English books and bought It Ends With Us online, I immediately asked for a refund afterwards 💀. I will NEVER be caught dead with a Colleen Hoover book in my hoard. Period.

  • @kyliedark2169
    @kyliedark2169 Год назад +3

    Hey i just thought of a break up line related to this
    "Your are like collen hover male leads. Toxic"

  • @IvartheScientist
    @IvartheScientist Год назад +3

    i have found my people. i thought i was misreading these books since everyone LOVES them so much!! i’m like wait did we not read the same thing orrrr???