The WORST Books I Read in 2022 🥴 Bad Werewolf Romances, Murderous Children, Cannibalism, and more

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  • @TheMetamorphoses2003
    @TheMetamorphoses2003 Год назад +3652

    Cindy out here cosplaying Jughead Jones

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +849

      HOW DARE YOU

    • @natanbcpc
      @natanbcpc Год назад +510

      She doesn't fit in and she doesn't want to fit in

    • @ilovegarlicbreadandice
      @ilovegarlicbreadandice Год назад +81

      CALLING CINDY SOMEONE FROM RIVERDAL LMFAOOOOOOOO

    • @TheMetamorphoses2003
      @TheMetamorphoses2003 Год назад +66

      @@withcindy Omg I got pinned. Such an honor.
      Anyway, even though you were cosplaying as Jughead Jones in this video, Cindy, you have so much more personality and wit than that "weirdo who doesn't want to fit in"
      Anyhow, great and funny video as usual. Btw, the Shiver excerpts made me physically cringe.

    • @riihatesyou
      @riihatesyou Год назад +45

      if you haven't noticed, she's different

  • @edmund5553
    @edmund5553 Год назад +4126

    "Werewolfs actually hit the two things that i'm interested in which are : Hot dumb muscular man who are loyal to you, and cute dogs." Classic Cindy forgetting that she's also a closeted furry, but we all know the closet is made of glass

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +552

      Shhhh

    • @beckymcdonald9529
      @beckymcdonald9529 Год назад +36

      You got read

    • @hellbreakfast1590
      @hellbreakfast1590 Год назад

      @@withcindy C'mon, come to FWA or MFF or somethin' and do a bad book reading. You know who likes books? You know how likes *dissing on bad books?* Fucking furries. That's right. All the internet knows us as drama, and you can, too.

    • @tiffanykim2773
      @tiffanykim2773 Год назад +11

      😂 Dddddaaaammmmmm

    • @lizzyfredrick2363
      @lizzyfredrick2363 Год назад +16

      Sounds like she'd really like Adastra

  • @victoriah4648
    @victoriah4648 Год назад +3093

    The "My husband would never abuse our child! He's..... Swedish!" quote has to be the funniest one of 2022

    • @jeremyusreevu237
      @jeremyusreevu237 Год назад +54

      Imagine a crossover between Problem Child and Baby Teeth.

    • @hanbigim
      @hanbigim Год назад +5

      yes

  • @brunetteartist24
    @brunetteartist24 Год назад +2441

    The most interesting thing about the moonlight child is the fact that the author is named Karen McQuestion

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +731

      That's gotta be a pseudonym

    • @GunnarTobus
      @GunnarTobus Год назад +149

      I honestly didn’t think you were serious until I looked it up.

    • @YazzyFairy
      @YazzyFairy Год назад +97

      I knowww- I could stop looking at the cover because of the name, it was very distracting

    • @brkh96
      @brkh96 Год назад +5

      What the heck

    • @keiley99
      @keiley99 Год назад +40

      “When else would she be washing dishes if not 3am”
      Me watching this whole video after scrubbing my entire kitchen at 11 am: 👀

  • @mauramargaretharahmidin2265
    @mauramargaretharahmidin2265 Год назад +2683

    Who needs spotify wrapped when you have cindy telling you the worst books she read year round 😍😍

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +308

      The best kind of wrapped, for haters

  • @jade-mack
    @jade-mack Год назад +379

    baby teeth made me begin a "birth-control" list on goodreads shoutout to my iud

  • @dandelionroots
    @dandelionroots Год назад +1991

    shiver is def the kind of book that you cannot read unless you're 13 and/or have read it at 13 and now nostalgia blinds you to everything that happens in it during re-reads

    • @dandelionroots
      @dandelionroots Год назад +259

      the funny thing is that i cannot, for the life of me, remember if I actually read this book, or if my sister talked SO much about it when she was 13 that I've just internalized her descriptions of what happens. Like I know I STARTED the book, but did I finish it? Did I read the two sequels? (The fourth one was never translated, and I didn't know english well enough then to read a novel in it) Who knows. I certainly don't! It's the great mystery of my literary history (rhyme unintended)

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +280

      Do you speak from personal experience

    • @dandelionroots
      @dandelionroots Год назад +106

      @@withcindy very likely considering that u read those passages and a part of me was like, that's kinda weird, but my reaction was still 'awee', coming deep, deep from within whichever part of my soul is still inhabited by 13 yo me 😂 man being a 13 yo 'girl' (or adjacent. or thought to be) really is something else haha, especially when you mix up neurodivergency in there

    • @ThumperCat01
      @ThumperCat01 Год назад +113

      I can confirm, I read the series at 13/14 and it will forever be 5 stars because of that 😄

    • @aundy9019
      @aundy9019 Год назад +34

      So true my 12 year old self read all four books

  • @atlaskat7980
    @atlaskat7980 Год назад +87

    I wasn't shocked at all by the ending of Tender is the Flesh. He never once stopped treating Jasmine like an object, specifically his possession. And having sex with a person who cannot consent? From the start I was like this man has NOT started seeing her like a human being

  • @JuniperJadePR
    @JuniperJadePR Год назад +278

    I had a dream where Rysand fought Swedish Dad. All they did was yell about how much they respect women while slapping each other.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +71

      who won

    • @JuniperJadePR
      @JuniperJadePR Год назад +74

      @@withcindy The dream ended before the fight did. I'd like to imagine that they tired out and agreed to a tie because that's true equality in their eyes.

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Год назад +46

      @@JuniperJadePRWould Rhysand say “I’m willing to keep going… but it’s your choice?”

    • @JuniperJadePR
      @JuniperJadePR Год назад +26

      @@animeotaku307 Sounds like something he'd say since he's a feminist.

    • @Ejsoskrmfucosj
      @Ejsoskrmfucosj Год назад +7

      @@JuniperJadePR LMAOOAO

  • @antoarzamendia
    @antoarzamendia Год назад +455

    When I heard ''but what about the argentinians'' I was so excited to hear about my country that I forgot this was a ''worst books I read'' video 😭😭😭😭

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +98

      I'm sorry to ur country

    • @agosgonzalez12
      @agosgonzalez12 Год назад +11

      Yo leí el titulo y vi cadaver exquisito en la miniatura y me la re bajo sjdj amo ese libro

    • @JustKrin
      @JustKrin Год назад +9

      Como otro argentino que ve a Cindy, debo admitir que el canibalismo sobre ser vegano es muy real acá

    • @r.s.5522
      @r.s.5522 Месяц назад

      I am finishing tender is the flesh, and I am absolutely mesmerized. It is one of the best books I have read in recent years. Yes, you can be proud of her

  • @annamaja4379
    @annamaja4379 Год назад +1215

    I have never felt less patriotic as a Swede than reading Baby Teeth.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +207

      I'm so sorry

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 Год назад +56

      You read it too?? You poor thing. I think the people subjected to this need to form a support group

    • @lizzietoons
      @lizzietoons Год назад +10

      Hope youre ok

    • @annamaja4379
      @annamaja4379 Год назад +28

      I got recommended it as a “must read”🥲 I did a Masters in English lit so I’ve read my share of genres and topics but this was something else man😂

    • @wyatt778
      @wyatt778 Год назад +3

      You poor thing

  • @Halfling4
    @Halfling4 Год назад +967

    Cindy could make a 5 hours video about bad books and it still wouldn't be long enough. The comments, the criticism, the sarcasm, I NEED MORE

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +158

      Maybe one day a book will be ridiculous enough to make it happen

    • @athena_k
      @athena_k Год назад +13

      @@withcindy let's all hope

    • @YW2324
      @YW2324 4 месяца назад

      Same 😄

  • @JanAgaton
    @JanAgaton Год назад +1482

    "i'll accept cannibalism, but i'll be damned if i ever become vegan" lmaooo true af

  • @giuliafornaciari9235
    @giuliafornaciari9235 Год назад +527

    "I think we're taking a dark turn here and not in a way that enhances the narrative" just entered my dictionary.
    I'll be stealing this with ✨NO SHAME✨.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +69

      U have my permission

    • @JustKrin
      @JustKrin Год назад +9

      A more elegant way of saying that not every subversion of expectations is good or smart

  • @culicibae
    @culicibae Год назад +642

    I loved the end of Tender is the Flesh because the whole time I was thinking "They want me to believe this man is different from everyone else? Bet."

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +208

      tender is the flesh just proves men aint it

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +11

      It's like oh a weird romance. . . Naaaahhh.

    • @aimisofea7964
      @aimisofea7964 Год назад +12

      can someone tell us people who dont mind spoilers what the ending was? as well as the midway point that cindy referred. im so curious🧐

    • @illchangemyusernamewhenith9130
      @illchangemyusernamewhenith9130 Год назад +63

      @@aimisofea7964 I'm not sure entirely but I think the midway point might be when the author includes a very unexpectedly weird sex scene. And the end is a twist because throughout the whole book this man is talking about loving and caring for this woman and their child. But once she had the child he instantly murdered her and planned to eat her. He only wanted the child all along. To me it was a suprise but maybe I'm dumb

    • @valeriaosorio4111
      @valeriaosorio4111 Год назад +65

      @@Topdoggie7 I didn't really see it as a romance, more like a power imbalance relationship in which the protagonist tries to convince himself he's different from the rest because he cares about her, or at least that's what I though.

  • @cityofnumbersix
    @cityofnumbersix Год назад +334

    Also Maggie has talked about the Shiver series and has eluded that it’s not something she wanted to write, but something that her publisher encouraged to write in order to get her feet in the door. She’s said she’s not even really into werewolves, which is why a lot of it is more wolf based then the classic depictions. I can’t even really blame her either tbh, there is a rift between writing for passion and being able to use authorship as a career and sometimes a persons gotta do what a persons gotta do. Still can’t bring myself to read it, though. Same with her first duology. It does go to show how far you can develop your writing, though. Whenever I feel kinda bad about how good her writing is in compassion to my own I just think of these early works and remember that writing is a SKILL that we hone.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +115

      omg so she was just phoning it in?! good for her LOL

  • @Sylarah15
    @Sylarah15 Год назад +882

    Honestly, I respect the hustle. If the Shiver series was what was needed for Maggie Stiefvater to a) get that money and b) get enough connections in the publishing industry to further her career, I say good for her. She used her money and clout to publish actually good/interesting books that showed significant growth as an author, which is more than some authors can be bothered to do.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +260

      Gotta get ur foot in the door somehow !!

    • @Nachtmusiks
      @Nachtmusiks Год назад +21

      Sarah J Maas who?

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +75

      @@Nachtmusiks SJM is far from skilled. Her own editors quit on her.

    • @acandycrushsagajourney6215
      @acandycrushsagajourney6215 Год назад +7

      @@Topdoggie7 WHAT REALLY OMG

  • @anee.778
    @anee.778 Год назад +38

    the part of cannibalism rather than vegetarianism is actually a kinda reference to a book that took place at a civil war in Argentina (el matadero) the quote would roughly translate "a stomach used to meat won't be satisfied with vegetables". Highschool reminiscing ~

  • @sennza
    @sennza Год назад +599

    I couldn’t get over the fact that the guy in tender is the flesh was basically committing bestiality. Like even if you didn’t view it that way there was still a complete power imbalance like girly had the education of a fetus

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +182

      yea it was GROSS

    • @tammy5466
      @tammy5466 Год назад +96

      I agree with you but let's not call it bestiality because..... she was a human. I would compare it to just grape.

    • @sophiethepegasus
      @sophiethepegasus Год назад +114

      @@tammy5466 Idk as someone with NO CONTEXT so don't take what I say seriously, i think there's something a bit strange about comparing low education to bestiality???

    • @user-np9lb1xh7k
      @user-np9lb1xh7k Год назад +20

      @@sophiethepegasus yeah that rubbed me the wrong way too..

    • @tammy5466
      @tammy5466 Год назад +34

      @@sophiethepegasus well yeah I agree but the main problem is there's no consent to give by the receiving party

  • @TKZells16
    @TKZells16 Год назад +246

    Tender is the flesh was one of my top reads actually, it felt like a bad relationship that everyone kept telling you “he’s no good! He’s gonna hurt you” and it turns out they were right. Still loved it though 😂

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +75

      tbh the book rly did prove that men aint it

    • @batgal5471
      @batgal5471 Год назад +40

      I also really enjoyed “tender is the flesh” but I read it with the knowledge it was like a really disturbing horror movie and you weren't supposed to root for the main character at any point (imo of course)

  • @gillianglover8472
    @gillianglover8472 Год назад +237

    I loved the ending of Tender is the Flesh lmao! I was scared there was going to be a “happily ever after” with the main character and that poor girl, so I was just happy it wasn’t that.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +60

      tru a happily ever after would have sucked!

    • @BooksInTheVoid
      @BooksInTheVoid Год назад +34

      I loved Tender Is the Flesh as well. the main character read like 'I'm not like these other sheeple' so the ending was pretty good.

  • @ruqaiyafawaz5666
    @ruqaiyafawaz5666 Год назад +305

    shiver is my villain origin story, it just kept getting worse - and i had NO technical analysis skills as a teenager so this is saying a lot 😭

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +49

      Dude I'm astounded how bad it was

  • @sunnyy_
    @sunnyy_ Год назад +192

    When it comes to Shiver, I really think Maggie used the Twilight craze to break through in the publishing world. I haven't read Shiver, but I absolutely love The Raven Cycle and I know that series was her passion project that she worked on for a decade before publishing it and rewrote numerous times. Compared to that, I think Shiver was just means to an end. And you know what, I can totally respect that

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +41

      i support the hustle!! u gotta do what u gotta do

  • @NiniNonsense
    @NiniNonsense Год назад +463

    I was OBSESSED with Shiver 12 years ago. Honestly, I had a great time reading the series in middle school and it’s been nice to see Maggie’s writing improve over the years

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +145

      Maggie set out to do a paranormal romance for middle schoolers and she did it !!!

    • @DinosourousRexx
      @DinosourousRexx Год назад +9

      Yes, I LOVED that book in middle school. I’m sure I wouldn’t appreciate it so much now, but it’s a great book for the target audience.

    • @aimun5255
      @aimun5255 Год назад +11

      It's amazing to me she wrote both the shiver trilogy and the raven cycle/the dreamer series, the rANGE

  • @majonnaise
    @majonnaise Год назад +291

    my toxic trait is being more and more interested in reading baby teeth every time Cindy talks about it just becaste the father character sounds fucking hilarious and it just all sounds like a fever dream

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +75

      its a good read if ur morbidly curious

    • @Butchcavalier
      @Butchcavalier Год назад +22

      i've started imagining the Dad from Fairly Oddparents in his place tbh

    • @queenofdisaster3480
      @queenofdisaster3480 Год назад +4

      I liked it, but it’s very… weird. If you go into it w no expectations, and knowing that half the book is written from the little girl’s point of view and half from the mother’s, you might like it. However, I also love the author’s style and I’ve read another book by her before, so it could be that

  • @skylarjohnson7779
    @skylarjohnson7779 Год назад +107

    Cindy: animal meat is poisonous
    Me: so they're just vegetarian, which is the rational thing to do.
    Cindy: so they eat people
    Me: why did I think this was going in any other direction?

  • @manonsei4140
    @manonsei4140 Год назад +152

    as an argentinian, i regret to inform you that me and my friends would talk about stuff like inflation before class when we were like, 13. i am unfortunately an exposition giving teen

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +37

      are yall ok??

    • @manonsei4140
      @manonsei4140 Год назад +57

      @@withcindy the argentinian economy is constantly in shambles. we very much are not

  • @TheFlowerbeast
    @TheFlowerbeast Год назад +158

    Youre right about movie vs book. Movies can be flashy to the point it's kind like a parody and becomes it's so bad, it's so good. But when it's a book, it doesn't have the same appeal. Because when you're reading, you're forced to use your own imagination, to see yourself as the characters. With movies, you can detach yourself and just watch the characters do their businesses.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +29

      Yeah I think we can afford a little more grace for movies because they're so visual!

    • @bloopsagain
      @bloopsagain Год назад +3

      This makes me think that in a Movie Fan/Book Reader relationship, the movie fan is a pillow princess while the reader puts in the time

  • @belthegreat8961
    @belthegreat8961 Год назад +89

    I read shiver when I was 11-12 and while I could not tell you anything about that book but I did eventually develop an obsession with trashy werewolf romances, so clearly Maggie did something to my adolescent brain 💀

  • @jackcullen5085
    @jackcullen5085 Год назад +229

    Our favourite time of year - Cindy ✨reading✨ books that she's read. (Get it? Get it? Like drag queens reading? Get it?)

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +51

      Gotta read them for filth

    • @bug688
      @bug688 Год назад +5

      no we dont get it whos reading again

    • @tiffanykim2773
      @tiffanykim2773 Год назад +5

      🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +73

    “Asymmetrical Dyed Hair B***hes”. Standing ovation for that line and also, ONE FOR THE MERCH LINE!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +213

    ‘They Never Learn’ would be a great CW Show. Instead of Mr. Fitz being trouble, Aria takes over the English Department and takes on all the bad boys.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +73

      Mr Fitz needs to have died

    • @amyg8176
      @amyg8176 Год назад

      @@withcindy I don’t remember exactly what happened with fitz in the books but I feel like he might have died

    • @psychicsocial
      @psychicsocial Год назад +4

      @@amyg8176 He was arrested, as he should.

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +1

      He needed to suffer.

    • @amk881
      @amk881 Год назад +9

      I said it in a comment that I think got buried but Sweet/ Vicious is a show with the same premise! I think it’s from like 2016 but it was ahead of its time. It was a satire about taking down rape culture about bad ass sorority girl. It was actually funny and nuanced.

  • @evaggeliatseliou9329
    @evaggeliatseliou9329 Год назад +70

    The whole building up ( 15:28 - 15:36)to the line "would you f@ck a cow" was UNHINGED 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I DID NOT see it coming, I almost stabbed myself with the knife I was using to butter my toast!! I am still crying laughing while writing this...omg....I love this channel.... can't wait for the vlog where you dive deeper into this crazy story!! 😵‍💫😵‍💫🤣🤣🤣

  • @Alexfolledemoi
    @Alexfolledemoi Год назад +246

    First book completely missed the part where the vast majority of sexual assaults actually occurs within the family circle. In most cases, the perpetrator is your significant other or a family member 💀

    • @ladyredl3210
      @ladyredl3210 Год назад +13

      Yup. Completely awful book, anyone who might get something out of it can’t because it’s awful.

    • @XOmangoXO
      @XOmangoXO Год назад +50

      That’s true in general, but the book was set on a college campus with student victims, where rates of SA by someone you don’t know or just know at an acquaintance level are much higher
      Edit: I’m by no means defending the book, I read it back in March and didn’t like it

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +10

      @@ladyredl3210 Mostly it was popular with teens and college students who survived SA and wanted revenge. So there's the audience.

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +7

      The perpetrator in the first book WAS someone she knew and friends and family though?

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад +3

      @@XOmangoXO This. It's flawed but the setting is rife with SA situations irl.

  • @rusteepixls
    @rusteepixls Год назад +63

    i’m never getting over reading the werewolf character from shiver describe himself as a “leaking womb” that book was really… a book

  • @mally6101
    @mally6101 Год назад +78

    not to be gross and sappy but cindy is forever my comfort booktuber. thanks for making us happy this year bestie. ur vids made the year more bearable 💘

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +13

      🥺🥺 ty so much!!

  • @TheFlowerbeast
    @TheFlowerbeast Год назад +54

    Just realized that it's only Cindy's booktube videos I've faithfully watched. I think I am growing out of booktube but I will forever watch Cindy

  • @melodye14
    @melodye14 Год назад +31

    The way you described basically the cognitive dissonance in Tender is the Flesh reminds me of the sentient chickens farming other chickens in Bojack Horseman. The latter are bred as livestock and given hormones, so it's fine, they're just food lol.

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +10

      thats exactly how they processed the same rationale!! lol

  • @josephguenther4775
    @josephguenther4775 Год назад +41

    I remember the Shiver series being interesting for the fact that the bubblegum pink "villain" was actually made into a deep, human character, and in the last book she is the protagonist. But I read it a long time ago...

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +7

      Oh that's an interesting concept!

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +4

      Oh that's an interesting concept!

  • @dianaandherbooks
    @dianaandherbooks Год назад +80

    Shiver was the first Maggie Stiefvater book I read. It was weird and really forgetable so I never continue the series. I read the raven circle after and I couldn't believe it was written by the same person.

  • @TheBeeesKnees
    @TheBeeesKnees Год назад +55

    i didnt know i would go into this video and be THRUST BACK INTO MIDDLE SCHOOL. I read the whole shiver series in like a week in 8th grade. you literally got me whiplashed and flashbacking into that time. agree with everything you said about shiver. why did middle school me swoon over being sniffed. a simpler time bruh

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +17

      SWOON OVER BEING SNIFFED??????

    • @TheBeeesKnees
      @TheBeeesKnees Год назад +15

      @@withcindy I SAID WHAT I SAID. kids so lucky nowadays with fairy smut. you had to take what you could get my middle school library was DRY ASF

  • @ManicChangeling
    @ManicChangeling Год назад +62

    I read Shiver at like 16 when it came out and loved it lol. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the original hardcovers had colored ink matching the cover for the whole book and it was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen.

    • @holly27796
      @holly27796 Год назад +2

      Oh yeah, and then you’d go back to a book with regular colored ink and it would mess with your head.

    • @lexirivera01
      @lexirivera01 Год назад +2

      YES!! The blue, green, and reddish brown. God it was so wicked honestly. It’s so painfully nostalgic

  • @moonbunny1812
    @moonbunny1812 Год назад +35

    cindy have you ever thought maybe the reason why you are upset that the characters dont struggle in the books is because you struggled too much in your life? 😭😭

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +14

      Maybe ur onto something

  • @iamam7y
    @iamam7y Год назад +21

    When I was at SDCC this summer, Maggie was in a panel and mentioned that Shiver was written to be more about fitting in and finding yourself than a werewolf story, which is why she thinks so many middle schoolers appreciated it when it came out. Since a lot of people are commenting here that it was a foot in the door for her, I'm assuming the wolves were for the marketing, but the fitting in was the story she actually wanted to write. And overall she seemed almost uncomfortable talking about the series.
    I loved it when I read it in early high school and had brought it with me for her to sign for the nostalgia (and I already have TRC signed) and she jokingly asked if it made me cry. I have never cried at any book/movie and when I told her no she seemed quite pleased that I didn't and said she never does either. So add all that with your comments Cindy and I'd think Maggie would agree with your assessment.

  • @jamesdale8405
    @jamesdale8405 Год назад +18

    there’s something so therapeutic about listening to cindy talk about the worst books i’ve ever heard about

  • @chance757
    @chance757 Год назад +97

    the title already has me intrigued lmao bad werewolf romances are my SHIT 😭🥴🤡

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +19

      I WISH it was trashy fun but alas...

    • @jocelinetrancoso9112
      @jocelinetrancoso9112 Год назад +2

      Try reading blood and chocolate then

    • @chance757
      @chance757 Год назад +1

      @@jocelinetrancoso9112 already have 🤣

  • @MichelleGrondine
    @MichelleGrondine Год назад +18

    when the video starts out “it has as much nuance as book twitter is capable of” you know it’s going to be a good one

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +22

    BABY TEETH had 2 Parts. It’s a separate dimension of discourse. So pleased to see it featured here.

  • @nityabudamagunta8983
    @nityabudamagunta8983 Год назад +65

    Cindy! If you want a good feminist book that is nuanced, I HIGHLY recommend Kaikeyi by Vaishanavi Patel (it's also a mythology retelling from the "villian's" perspective, the main character is aro/ace, and it's just very good in general)

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +13

      do u think i would enjoy it with no knowledge of mythology beforehand?

    • @nityabudamagunta8983
      @nityabudamagunta8983 Год назад +11

      @@withcindy Yes! The book is very accessible to anyone! I am coming in from a biased perspective, since I grew up on the story of the Ramayana, but I think it does a good job at explaining anything you need to know, and diverges from the source material, so you don't need any prior knowledge!

    • @nityabudamagunta8983
      @nityabudamagunta8983 Год назад +4

      @@withcindy It doesn't hurt to have just a very basic outline of what happens in the Ramayana, since it helps show where the stories diverge, but you should be able to understand everything without.

  • @Topdoggie7
    @Topdoggie7 Год назад +11

    They Never Learn is SA revenge for all SA victims but past that, it's not a lot. But abuse victims need that feels good content in a world that doesn't care about them. Booktok has no idea how not deep it really is.
    -A casual They Never Learn fan

    • @yearlywise8003
      @yearlywise8003 Год назад +5

      Ngl The Female of the Species is lowkey everything They Never Learn was trying to be (in terms of SA/how characters respond to it).

    • @machinegunlament
      @machinegunlament 3 месяца назад

      No bro, everything totally has to be an analytical intersectional gender-inclusive libfem social critique! Women aren't allowed to enjoy violence and revenge bro

  • @meganknight5262
    @meganknight5262 Год назад +30

    I’m glad to see that you didn’t suffer from Ms. Maas this year. A needed break ❤️❤️

  • @jmb1922
    @jmb1922 Год назад +12

    If you want a book like Moonlight Child that actually goes into the psychological aspects of trauma and discusses both the good and bad of the foster care system I would highly recommend A List of Cages by Robin Roe. One of my favorite books of all time plus she used to be a social worker so you can tell she put a lot of care into it.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +78

    Cindy: “You somehow find entertainment in that.”
    Me: “It’s entertaining PERIODT. Why do you think we unsubscribe every other day?”
    (Just kidding)

  • @noahmurphygordon1928
    @noahmurphygordon1928 Год назад +48

    "I'll accept cannibalism, but I'll be damned if I become a vegan" lmao

  • @user-wt7ic5qo6h
    @user-wt7ic5qo6h Год назад +34

    I read shiver couple years after i read the raven cycle and i was so terrified that i just halucinated how good trc was or was not in my right head while reading it cause how did the same person wrote something like that just a few years before

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +15

      LMAOOO maggie did what she had to do to make raven cycle happen

  • @Nachtmusiks
    @Nachtmusiks Год назад +63

    Basically Cindy just want the characters to struggle more. I thought we're reading for the escapism 😶

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +39

      I need an outlet for my struggles

    • @rachael5300
      @rachael5300 Год назад +20

      Personally I am escaping my boring ass uneventful life by reading about characters STRUGGLING

    • @ngtskynebula
      @ngtskynebula Год назад +4

      @@rachael5300 The way I see myself in this, I-

  • @LoraK31
    @LoraK31 Год назад +28

    When I was in middle school, my friend told me to read the Shiver series and I accidentally started with the second book, Linger. I totally didn't realize until halfway through and I just ended up going on to the 3rd book and never reading the 1st because I didn't give a shit about the main romance, but there was a secondary romance that started in the 2nd book that my 13-year-old brain latched onto. The fact that I could skip the 1st book and still understand the story tells you everything you need to know about this series lol

    • @MadameCorgi
      @MadameCorgi Год назад +4

      Haha, I did the same thing! Didn't realise till halfway through. Also read a book about fairies about the same time and the main character was obsessed with naming types of phobias. I thought it was the best thing ever written

    • @dslaughter3555
      @dslaughter3555 Год назад +2

      Omg I did the same thing but I started with the third book and I literally didn’t even notice until I got to the end of the book and realized that the first two books were being promoted on the back cover. And the fact that I never once was confused and questioned whether I missed something says a lot.😭😭

  • @mpd1732
    @mpd1732 Год назад +15

    I was misreading it as "*Tinder* is the Flesh" and was wondering when the dating app was going to come into play 💀
    (Although, that mental prompt did sound like a more intriguing premise to me than what the actual plot was, lol)

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +6

      tinder is the flesh just sounds gross lolol

  • @ramshafarooq
    @ramshafarooq Год назад +12

    NAUR I WAS SO EXCITED TO READ TENDER IS THE FLESH DKLSNDN
    cindy please make a video on creepy books that leave you thinking, "wtf did i just read?" but like in a GOOD way

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +5

      I'm still waiting to finish a book like that LOL

    • @ramshafarooq
      @ramshafarooq Год назад +1

      @@withcindy you should read haunted by chuck palahnuik! i LOVE it

  • @bobpasta9600
    @bobpasta9600 Год назад +10

    I thought the ending for Tender is the Flesh was the perfect ending for the message the author was trying to convey. Because you think that just maybe the main character will finally see Jasmine as a human being but all he saw her as all his feelings were because she was carrying his child. As soon as Jasmine and the child were separate he didn’t see Jasmine as human. Much like how women are viewed as objects and how their value is attributed to the children they create in the real world.
    Also the bestiality aspect the a lot of people seem to have is fascinating because the “head” are humans. Even without proper education they are shown to be capable of higher thought and the characters in the book acknowledge at-least somewhat that the head are human beings. So is it the readers who view the head as inhuman?
    (I’m probably reading way to much into it lol)

  • @acomn85
    @acomn85 Год назад +10

    i've been aimlessly walking around thailand for six hours during my layover and i'm finally home and a cindy video is just what i needed

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад

      Omg I was in Thailand last month

    • @acomn85
      @acomn85 Год назад

      @@withcindy my cindy arc fr

  • @holly27796
    @holly27796 Год назад +1

    YES SHIVER VIDEO PLEASE! I adored the snot out of those books as a teen and I would love to re-examine them with you!

  • @cheyennekchua
    @cheyennekchua Год назад +15

    That starting quote was a ride on its own...
    Thank you Cindy for another great video for me to repeatedly watch over and over 💙

  • @medussaa8061
    @medussaa8061 Год назад +5

    I just want to comment that in the scene with the teenagers in Tender is the flesh the MC didn't help the puppies because he is an asshole. He doesn't even think about saving them. I remember there were no feelings of anger nor guilt from that dude.

  • @DoodlymeIYA
    @DoodlymeIYA Год назад +10

    Seeing Shiver on the thumbnail unlocked my repressed preteens memories 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @yenu4683
    @yenu4683 Год назад +3

    I would love to see a whole video of you autopsying Shiver. It’s all in good fun, and Maggie has improved so much.

  • @Kittenz624
    @Kittenz624 Год назад +36

    Shiver is just astounding to me not just because the writing is shockingly bad but because it does not even seem like it could have been written by the same author who wrote the raven cycle.
    For someone with such a distinctive and dare I say it, quirky, voice in TRC and call down the hawk, the writing style of Shiver is just completely different. Maggie, the glow up was insane good for you

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +10

      i wanna know what maggie was going thru while writing shiver

  • @sgt.ponpon
    @sgt.ponpon Год назад +5

    "werewolf looking like Mitchel Musso"😂😂
    I laughed so hard.
    Oh, Cindy you are amazing!

  • @musicalnerds101
    @musicalnerds101 Год назад +4

    Make the shiver video!!! I used to love those books and I love Maggie’s other books too so I think it would be fun to revisit these. Also I think it’s good to think about how published authors aren’t perfect and can improve throughout their career!

  • @gingerjessietalks7685
    @gingerjessietalks7685 Год назад

    Great video. I'm extremely excited for your further content on Tender is the Flesh.

  • @Louise-wk5yf
    @Louise-wk5yf Год назад +1

    I'm excited for your Tender is the Flesh video. As much as I was invested for that book it was weird and crazy. 😂

  • @TeamJacobBlackWolfie
    @TeamJacobBlackWolfie Год назад +5

    Shiver is litterally my most favorite book... I mean tbf, I did read it when I was like 16 and going through it, and now, 10 years later it may just be nostalgia... But I have read and listened to this book far too many times to count. Ive read the next 2 books, Linger and Forever, as well. I love those too.

  • @lunar-lovelyy
    @lunar-lovelyy Год назад +13

    hope you’re doing well and recover from these books soon!

  • @mmm_high
    @mmm_high Год назад

    i love watching you ramble and roast books so YES PLS POST THOSE VIDEOS

  • @rheamilner949
    @rheamilner949 Год назад +1

    Love your take on "Tender is the Flesh", Cindy! ❤

  • @sabinah.
    @sabinah. Год назад +13

    OH MY GOD, I remember Shiver, because my English teacher recommended it to our whole class in like, 8th, 9th grade? I'm pretty sure it came out during the height of the Twilight phase, and the text being printed in blue ink was noteworthy enough to mention lol. I tried reading it because she gave all of us free copies, but I never got very far. Oohh my god this is so funny, memory unlocked 😂

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +2

      why would ur teacher do this to u

    • @sabinah.
      @sabinah. Год назад +2

      @@withcindy the author may or may not have been visiting the school soon? still, embarrassing for her.

  • @adelect447
    @adelect447 Год назад +5

    I've seen this 4 weeks ago, saw Cindy didn't like Tender is the Flesh, and then a different booktuber said it was their (I think) 2nd best book of the year and I was like "I need to get to the bottom of this, I need to know which is true." so I read Tender is the Flesh and I've learned my lesson - Cindy is always right.
    and now I have to live with the knowledge of everything that happens in that book 💀

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +2

      HAHAHAHA omg

    • @adelect447
      @adelect447 Год назад +1

      @@withcindy I'm sorry I didn't believe you, queen. From now on when Cindy says it's a bad book then it's a bad book.

  • @Moerighan
    @Moerighan Год назад +1

    Getting high and listening to Cindy talk about all the books she found ridiculous this year is the best Christmas present.

  • @dreamofsomeepiphany3502
    @dreamofsomeepiphany3502 Год назад

    I put your videos on while I do my very boring work and the time literally flies by me! Thanks for making my mind numbing job entertaining!

  • @annasleseplatz5381
    @annasleseplatz5381 Год назад +10

    I love it when Cindy is talking trash about Books 😍

  • @elenamuzzioli3862
    @elenamuzzioli3862 Год назад +5

    I think a book that has a similar concept to tender is the flesh is "sirene" by Laura Pugno. She's an Italian author and I don't know if an English translation exist, but it has been a really good book for me. It describes a distopian world where sirens became a slaughter creatures and It's interesting because even if they are treated as animals they are very similar to humans. I really recommend it.

  • @lrose5522
    @lrose5522 Год назад

    icb my notifs for you were turned off! i just happened to see this video in the recommended and realized i hadn't seen you in too long. can't wait to hear about all the worst of the worst books of 2022

  • @fttoma
    @fttoma Год назад

    Cindy the two hours review and commentary about baby teeth is the best thing about the book 🤣💗💗

  • @pichii
    @pichii Год назад +5

    I dont know about reading Baby Teeth but I sure as hell enjoyed your review of it! 🍼 🦷

  • @no_thanks5711
    @no_thanks5711 Год назад +3

    As someone who just wrote a final paper about fictional cannibalism and Tender is the Flesh, I feel so seen by your review… the novel, its prose, and its concept are far more interesting to analyze than to read. Like with people straight up talking about assault and eating babies, live amputation, literally beating puppies… it got to the point where it was almost comedically macabre and just exhausting. I get what the author is doing by displaying the worst of humanity in this dystopia, but, like you said, the whole thing lost steam and felt like parody by the end.
    TLDR, Your next video can’t come soon enough. Keep up the good work!

  • @Erika-pq7ip
    @Erika-pq7ip Год назад +1

    Your Baby teeth videos were probably the best ones I watched on booktube this year

  • @shaylinsimmons
    @shaylinsimmons Год назад

    Turning on notifications to make sure I don’t miss the reading vlog of Tender is the Flesh

  • @viscorner4
    @viscorner4 Год назад +5

    I thought for a second Cindy was gonna talk about Baby Teeth the whole time without mentioning the dad being Swedish and I was about to get offended, but all is well

  • @katie2606
    @katie2606 Год назад +5

    I have seen some of the most extreme, violent horror movies and thought I'd be fine with Tender is the Flesh, but I'm like fully scarred from that book. I read it in September and I can't get it out of my head. I literally need to bleach my brain.

  • @kidneystonequeen
    @kidneystonequeen Год назад

    This is the first video of yours ive watched and i love your humor and your takes on everything, definitely watching more (especially the vids on books you didnt like lol)

  • @xaninart
    @xaninart Год назад +1

    Cindy please I NEED a video of you talking about Shiver, at least the first book. I genuinely was EXHAUSTED when I finished it and I was like, fifteen, and now I'm 25 and I think it broke me completely to the point of no return. And I have read The Raven Cycle and it is beautifully written, i could not BELIEVE IT when I discovered that the author wrote both sagas. Everyone around me loved Shiver back then and I felt so crazy because I was CONVINCED it was bad. So yeah I would love a review from your perspective but I don't want you to suffer it, it would be amazing if you could buddy read it with someone because at least share that insanity of a journey

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Год назад +13

    So it’s called “They Never Learn” but she has been covering her tracks so they don’t know there is connection between the deaths, so what lesson is she trying to teach?

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +7

      I guess they never learned to track her down

  • @YinYangAngel55
    @YinYangAngel55 Год назад +3

    "my wolf, my wolf" sounds eerily similar to "mate, my mate". Gives me ACoTaR vibes

  • @clowncxnt
    @clowncxnt Год назад +38

    ready to add all of these to my reading list in 2023 just to anger and entertain myself 💅🏻

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +17

      Ur a masochist I see

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 Год назад

      Get those nails red and ready for the pain train, woo!

  • @calicognocchi
    @calicognocchi Год назад

    I would LOVE to see a video where you make questions and choose a book for each one, like those book challenges that were popular in booktube years ago hahaha. But with more interesting questions like the worst writing, the best development from a character, the best commentary, etc. I think it would be a great way for us to understand you better when you talk about those things in other reviews, we would know what you mean by bad writing, for example. Also it would be a great way for you to talk more about specific aspects, which sometimes you can't do because your reviews would be too long

  • @silvercookies
    @silvercookies Год назад +6

    Shiver wasn't Maggie's first book she had published two faerie books before the first book being Lament. Shiver was her first big book though and yes it like a lot of YA paranormal romance books that came out around the same time (Hush, Hush; Beautiful Creatures, Fallen) was being released by publishers to attract the Twilight audience. I like seeing the old work of big artists cause its inspiring to newbies to see hey your stuff may be meh now but you can greatly improve!

  • @emoverhere
    @emoverhere Год назад +5

    my favorite video of the year every year LET’S GOOOOOO

    • @withcindy
      @withcindy  Год назад +1

      I see you love being a hater

    • @emoverhere
      @emoverhere Год назад

      @@withcindy i just think that a little bit of hate is healthy, adds spice to my emotional palette

  • @wynnekelly-buttfield2685
    @wynnekelly-buttfield2685 Год назад +2

    Oh Shiver, I have literally not read that in forever and I'm laughing/cringing at those excerpts because man I remember literally being obsessed to the max with this series 🙈 however...Sinner, the spin off following Cole and Isabel, I still love that to bits and reread it regularly (so maybe you might be interested in giving that a try?)

  • @chrisbonweenie9136
    @chrisbonweenie9136 Год назад

    My first video of yours! Had this saved for a while and finally watched it. Our humor is super similar - loved your energy ❤

  • @blank_5001
    @blank_5001 Год назад +5

    A book i recommend in place of “They Never Learn” is A Certain Hunger by Chelsea G Summers! i’m currently reading it! It reminds me of american psycho writing but with a food critic instead! You’ll have to look into it!