Imagine, if the afterlife is real, the moment someone, at some point, will have to explain Marie Anne Dufosset exactly what the f*ck went down with this book exactly
@@teifan6674 I would feel so bad like imagine being Marie Anne Duffoset. She was falsely accused as a witch, died a horrific death, then ended up in some stupid ass book with a demon kid, a swedish man and a doormat mom. Like I can't tell which one is worse honestly.
The author missed an opportunity for a real plot twist; I would have immediately redeemed this book if it turned out the dad wasn't even Swedish the whole time
This book is like the extended form of that tweet that's like "why do we blame deadbeat dads for not being around, and never question if the kid just has bad vibes?"
It doesn’t matter if the mom went wrong somewhere or if the kid is a menace, because I think we can all agree that the real villain of the story is the dad.
Mom: Forces kid to eat until she chokes. Doctor: Was there anything that could've caused her to act out like this? Mom: We wanted to give her a Swedish name.
i mean admittedly she might not remember it the same way as Hannah does. I remember my parent, who is the sweetest person ever, once threatening to leave me in a forest. She says she did so after I repeatedly stated I wanted to run away from home and leave them, I don't remember that part, so I can't confirm, but I'm inclined to believe it since I had a phase like that. She didn't mean to scare me as much as she ended up doing, and I didn't tell her. The point is, children prioritize differently, so while it doesn't make the act less traumatizing for Hannah, it would explain why the mom doesn't have it as a massive incident What I can't get over is how they not once think she could've picked sexual behavior from them fcking in the living room at like 9:30 ...
As someone on the spectrum, books like this bring me back to those autism mommy blogs where they would act like their disabled kid was literally the spawn of satan or something. The whole mentality feels so ableist and gross.
This entire book in a nutshell Hanna: I'm going to torture mommy in a way that no child should even be able to think of much less pull off Mom: oh no my husband - who is swedish - our child is demented Dad: nah honey she didn't mean to bite off your finger :) Mom: wow you are so swedish **they bang as Hanna watches**
Imagine someone reading this comment before watching this and the previous video, then saying "WTF? There's no way it's that bad." Well, that fictional strawman has a big storm coming.
Tbf in the book (if I’m remembering correctly) she learned “hieroglyphics” from a school project, which is a thing I can remember doing as a kid. But said hieroglyphics aren’t actually accurate, they’re kids drawings. So I’m assuming that’s actually what the author was trying to insinuate, but the idea of a kid actually taking the time to code in hieroglyphics is so much funnier.
Not to mention in the first part of Cindy’s rant, the kid spells bitch and fuck but spells weak as “week” (mind you, the misspelled weak was in the same sentence as correctly spelled fuck)
Honestly as a former kid with an ancient Egypt hyperfixation, you can find (extremely oversimplified, probably) translations online of hieroglyphics into Latin letters, so you could probably use that as a code if you wanted. But a 7-year-old can't do this level of complex planning. If one could, the problem isn't just that she's evil, it's that she's not being challenged enough in school and needs to skip a grade or several (and maybe that's part of why she's acting out; she's bored. That doesn't justify why she hurts people, but her parents need to start giving her more advanced books and homeschooling materials to use).
i can kinda understand that bit actually. seeing violence/disturbing content on a screen is one thing, and it can feel very detached from reality, especially for a kid. you don't fully process the real-world repercussions and get desensitized to seeing violence. but that doesn't necessarily translate to committing those acts in the real world. so experiencing the actual effects of witnessing something horrific like that where someone is bleeding and wailing in pain could definitely be an "oh sh*t" moment, because she'd never dealt with the effects in real life before. hopefully that makes sense. but the book altogether is really inconsistent and bad, so i don't think the author put that much thought into it lol.
@@sincerely-sparrow While I agree I still think pictures of real life corpses look so different than the ones from TV that they look disturbing. If it was said that the kid used images from horror movies or police procedurals maybe it would have made more sense.
Honestly? With the amount of unhelpful, counterproductive things the husband did in this book, I feel like it would have made more sense for him to have ACTUALLY been confirmed to be abusing the kid. If all the putting off talking about it and dismissing her aggressive behavior was for the sake of his wife not finding out what was actually going on. Maybe the kid could have been mad at her mom for not noticing? Idk, I'm just trying to think of ANYTHING that would have made more narrative sense than whatever this book tried to do. I guess the real horror was the bad books we read along the way.
Look I know it's an hour after she said it but I'm still not over "He's Swedish" as a reason he can't be an abuser. It's living rent free in my mind. Edit: this author is just obsessed with Sweden. That's the book
If Swedish men were confirmed to Never Be Abusers then like... wouldn't the women of the world just all flock to get a Swedish husband? Sounds logical to me, since that would ensure domestic abuse wouldn't be a problem for themselves or their future children. It really just sounds dumber the further you take it.
I know nothing about the author, but I feel like she had a fling with a Swedish guy (or just fantasized about one) so she wanted to include the random knowledge she gleaned in one of her books
It just astounds me that the wife didn’t divorce her husband for being so dense and dismissive when it came to their gremlin of a child. Like either that Swedish “D” was that good, or she’s a masochist. No man or child is worth this headache💀💀
@@withcindy we love seeing a strong empowering woman lead who does nothing but get oh so tormented by her special needs child and fight with said child for attention from the husband 😍
I agree, but I also feel like it's a very common relationship dynamic :/ not the devil child part obviously but fathers completely checked out of their children's problems, specially more serious ones, and mothers having to handle everything on their own
@@kerollaynemoreira7536 true, which could have been an actually interesting point for the author to explore instead of literally no character development and craving that good swedish d
Kinda feel like the book would've been more interesting if the author had leaned into the horror of like 'women being pressured into having a kid she doesn't actually want and then has a hard time connecting with her kid who picks up on that' instead of whatever weird freudian relationship and demonization of special needs kids is going on. And i'm still not over just how oblivious (and swedish) the husband is. this rant was a delight :D
This plot is just so frustratingly contrived. I hate that the author painstakingly points out the plot holes in their own work and does nothing to rectify them. The mom never takes a goddamn picture of the daughter's shenanigans despite mentioning it like 7 times.
@An Alias But she does talk to the husband about Hanna's shenanigans, and he gaslights the shit out of her. Anybody would've taken as many pictures and videos as possible, as proof she wasn't losing her mind or wasn't being high. Also, as an author, that's the kind of stuff you notice very easily when you write your first draft, so you can rewrite a better plot in your next drafts. This means the author either published their first draft or the script hasn't been edited properly. In both cases, where is the professionalism? (Probably smashed under the author's bed like Hanna's potato)
Not gonna lie I thought the mom was in an abusive relationship (or an unhealthy defendant) relationship with the husband. The way he’s so neglectful of what’s going on at home, dismisses the daughter’s behavior and mom’s concerns, lashes out his anger at the mom,how the mom is so isolated and alone, the mom’s line that was like she wasn’t really happy until she met her husband and the way she’s instantly concerned with what the husband will thing when she’s physically hurt in a way her appearance is affected (ie her hair cut and cheek burn). All of this had me side eyeing the husband.
as someone with a personality disorder who knows a bunch of people with ASPD, im sickk of stories where small children are diagnosed with "sociopathy" because they're acting out, and then frame the kids as these "sick and twisted demon children". like, first of all, personality disorders are most often developed from trauma. Usually childhood and generational, mine is a little bit of both. Second of all, kids aren't diagnosed with ASPD. Minors with ASPD are diagnosed with a conduct disorder (CD), and the diagnosis is changed to ASPD if the symptoms persist into adulthood. Just goes to show how little people know or care about mental health, this is surface-level google shit!
@@BooksandBuns honestly, even strong, self declared mental health "allies" treat ppl with stigmatised disorders like this. i wouldn't be surprised even if this book was presented as some sorta genuine educational piece.
Very upsetting I can't I say was diagnosed in my 20s been told that you can't feel sympathy don't you know you do it more being an autistic child that you're evil and you have no feelings actually affect your later life
Welp, as a swedish preschool teacher this book is a nightmare on so many levels lmao. I think what weird me out the most is that if the author really wanted ro write a story about children lying about witches and the devil and have the whole Swedish thing be relevant, they could easily just have switched the French witch to a swedish one. We have a whole thing about Easter witches and children back in the day describing being kidnapped by witches and taken to meet the devil and even watching him have sex with the witches. There's plenty of disturbing stuff to reference and it would make the constant "he's swedish" less irrelevant.
@@blearyeyedchangelingWait is Pewdiepie actually not popular anymore? I have never cared for his channel at all, but has he fallen from grace or something?
"i wish I had a gun, too" is much more frightening than that stupid monologue. This is a kid. The author was trying so hard to make a psychopathic character but everything is laughable, so the character ends up being pathetic instead.
@@withcindy Just finished the video and I want to say, thank you for your service! Sometimes I want to read "bad/weird books" for entertainment purposes but my attention span says otherwise.
aside from all the craziness that happens in this book, the amount of "..." when anyone talks is driving me nuts. whenever they have a conversation, it's like they're just loading 😭😭
I loved listening to Cindy reading it ngl. Makes it easy to imagine they're saying "dot dot dot" out loud whenever they don't know how to finish a thought lol
The worst part is that, while the kid is absurdly resourcefull and her motivations make no sense, the parents are sadly realistic. My sister is a lawyer who does a lot of child support lawsuits, and really there are people who are as dense and in denial about their own family as Alex is (specially if their child has developmental issues or is neurodivergent), not to mention fathers who just expect the mother to do all the work in rising a child and runaway to the gym or the office everytime their spouse brings a problem. Suzette reaction at the end of "now that the pesky brat is gone I can finally enjoy my swedish saussage in peace, this is all I ever wanted from life" is also sadly accurate, seriously people *go to therapy before even consider having a baby, it doesn't matter how optimistic and hopeful you feel about life THALK TO A THERAPIST FIRST*
"Maybe daddy was mistaken. Maybe the other children weren't clever enough to cojure ways to handle their problems." My jaw is on the FLOOR. WHAT was she smoking and when she wrote this????
Honestly as someone with IBD, I’m surprised the mom’s condition didn’t get brought up more. Stress worsens symptoms. She would be in immense abdominal pain from all the fear and anxiety. Yes she’s on treatment, but even on treatment you can experience flare ups and symptoms. I wouldn’t doubt that the author brought up Crohn’s disease just to add the diarrhea scene and that’s it.
As a mixed-race nurse who regularly gets hit with "Yeah, but where are you REALLY from?", this hurt my soul. Also, that doctor should have called General Protective Services to report Hanna's behavior.
christ, i have some major issues but i never had to be worried about being asked where i’m “really” from. that sounds exhausting. wish for the best for you.
Dude you're dramatic as fuck, it's an easy question, what's your ethnicity? What's the country you descend from? How is that offensive? Just admit that you're so ashamed of your country of origin you'd get all sensitive when it's mentioned
The fact that this kid wasn’t reported to CPS years ago is both surprising and not surprising. I can equally believe no one would report obvious abuse and also believe that they report what isn’t abuse (in the book logic that Hanna is just Like This and totally not being abused by her parents) and get the parents arrested.
@@Wired_User In the state I live in, General Protective Services is called when a very young child commits a serious delinquent act. If the doctor suspects Hanna's parents are abusing her (which would likely be the case in real life), they, as a mandatory reporter, HAVE to call CPS. Not reporting could result in legal penalties including jail time.
After hearing the ending, the thing I don’t really understand is why we leave out the forced chewing thing being the root of Hanna’s justification. In her own recounting of the scene, she’s doing things to get on her mom’s nerves: dropping food on the floor, spitting it into her mom’s face. Her mom shoving the food into her mouth is the only time she really reacts to Hanna’s actions, so just make it that she’s trying to get the same reaction again. Like, her father has no boundaries for her, obviously, but this incident showed Hanna’s that her mom *does* and she tries to get her to react again because she is curious about it or something. And write that she’d read some weird scarring stuff when her babysitter abandoned her one time so she knows weird stuff. I don’t know-it all feels like an AI tried to remake ‘We Need To Talk About Kevin’.
So I feel like if the main character just decided to get a divorce and give the dad full custody of the kid, everyone would have been happier. Although i feel like the kid is like any cartoon villain who loses their entire identity when they finally win and she’d get really bored really quickly lol Also, i remember when i was a kid and thinking i was so smart trying to ‘trick’ my parents but it was always for like… mcdonalds or getting a treat at the store, and that shit never worked lmao i think the author watched The Orphan once and then wrote this mess
I agree, this really feels like a really badly written but insane version of The Orphan. Probably because that movie has a really good but specific twist. You can't copy that twist without people knowing you copied that movie.
@@fanaticaH I read some articles about Natalia Grace Barnet a few years back. Spoiled the twist for me, but truth is stranger than fiction sometimes lol
as someone who deals with sensory overloads the part about boy and a helmet made me squirm there was no need to include direct violence against a disabled kid on the page :/
I don't know a single swedish man, but I feel the need to apoligize to every single of them after hearing about this book. They did you so dirty, king. Or got your ass exposed, one or the other. Edit: I just finished the video and the ending was the most anticlimatic thing ever. I thought this was going to end with someone being killed but no, just with a vague promise of the kid someday doing something without any of us ever having a clue of what that something even was. It's like all set up, not pay off at all.
It would be pretty neat if the story was just about the daughter pretending to be a witch to freak out her mom only for the mom to break down and go crazy. Also in my version the kid is a normal child and not this possessed lolita monstrosity.
@@withcindy Honestly I was fully expecting that too, like if it wasn't the dad gaslighting her, then there'd be some reveal that the Hanna pov was the Mom demonizing her and she was skewering everything. Then the photo collage and tic-tac stuff happened and I was like "oh"
I would like something like this, it would have been like a modernized version of The Turn of the Screw (but different from The Haunting of Bly Manor). On The Turn of the Screw the nanny starts thinking the mansion is possessed by ghosts when it's just her not being adjusted to live on a place like that. Soon she starts thinking the kid she's caring for is possessed just because he was expelled from school from bad behavior, even when it was obvious that happened because his parents died and he was trying to cope.
if i had a dollar every time cindy's neighbours walked into the hallway while she's recapping a sex scene, i'd have 2 dollars, which isn't a lot, but for cindy's sake, can we please keep it at 2 dollars?????
The weaponised incompetence of the husband is definitely a form of abuse tbh. What a horrible man Also the narration had me pissing myself 😂☠️ what even
The point about how it would be more realistic for her to be possessed also made me realize it would also just...be scarier. Like, at some point in writing this, the author had to ask herself "Hmm, what's scarier: the idea of an innocent child being controlled by a supernatural force and made to do horrible things against her will, or an Evil Prank Baby?" and she went with the Evil Prank Baby
Honestly this book would've automatically raised a step if the actual reason the kid is so fucked is because the dad is such a horrible father that constantly enables the kid. Like Idk I think it would make more sense for the kid to see it as a way to push the dads boundaries and just test what she could get away with, probably not ever truly understanding consequences because the dad basically doesn't give her any, rather than just "Mommy was mean to me once multiple years ago, this means war 🤬🤬🤬" like obviously yea what the mom did was horrible, but it just feels so weird that that's the sole motivation for it?? Especially when the dad acts the way he does.
The way the book ends makes me feel like the author was planning to write a sequel with the kid executing her next plan to manipulate and torture her parents. You may not be out of the woods yet I fear
The sequel where she gets out and her dense parents had another kid that the mom actually likes and who is so sickeningly angelic and pure that it vomits rainbows. So of course Hanna trying to kill it is the plot.
as a swede i usually get a bit excited whenever sweden is mentioned abroad since it’s a pretty small country but atp i just never wanna hear it mentioned again 😭 i will say though it’s funny how you said the dad avoids conflicts, that’s so on brand of him. swedish culture means avoiding confrontation at allllll costs
Tell me about it! I met the woman living next to me for the first time just a few months ago, when she was nice and rang my doorbell to tell me there was a package waiting outside my door. We've both been living here for over 10 years. 💀 (insert obligatory: 'not all swedes', of course)
My culture meanwhile is "confrontation at all costs" and as much of a pain as it seems it sounds much better than being married to a man like the one in the book ☠
You need to read "the Bear" by Marian Engel - such a messed up novel about a librarian's sexual encounter with a grizzly bear (yes you heard right) and somehow won several awards in Canada
so, my personal take on this book is that both of hanna's parents are abusive and her behavior is at least partially a result of that. her mother obviously lashes out at her, and obviously started doing that *before* hanna began exhibiting dangerous behaviors; given that she chokes hanna and later grabs her, we can establish that, partially due to her social isolation, hanna may see these behaviors as normal, even if she also picks up on her mother's desire to hide her own bad behavior from her father: thus, hanna mirrors her mother in this way. her mother is clearly struggling with her own dissatisfactions and desire to go back to a time before she had a baby, and takes that out on hanna. meanwhile, it sounds kind of like a stretch that her father would be sexually abusive at first. but he treats her specially, so that even his wife is jealous. he lets her get away with everything. he avoids talking about her problems at all costs, which could be interpreted as a refusal to acknowledge guilt and the pain he's inflicting on her. and it is very rare for non-abused children to have an interest in sex; this is furthered by the disgusting passage in which hanna wonders why her parents 'never let her join them' or however it was stated. she demonstrates a lack of sexual boundaries, also common in sexually abused children. her simulating having sex with the devil under the mask of playing as marie-anne can be read as a child deriving self-destructive enjoyment from recreating their trauma. and her 'war' with her mother for her father's attention and love is extremely disturbing. obviously these circumstances wouldn't excuse hanna's behavior, but children in harmful situations act out. they may suppress all emotion as a way to survive. they may torment others as a way to feel they have power in a life in which the only power they've ever seen displayed was used to cause harm. they plan, sometimes fastidiously, to get away with these things which they may be punished for, yet are the most frequent interactions they've seen. finally, there *is* some evidence pointing to a potential link between childhood abuse and psychopathy. i haven't read this book, though after having seen this and all the absurdity-and-poor-writing-masquerading-as-horror in it, i will. and if i remember, i'll edit this comment with notes after i do.
It is shitty if the author really was trying to make the mom look like a bad mom for missing her pre-kid life. Especially since she’s really the only parent. As a newish mom I’ve had guilt sometimes missing my pre-kid life. Being a parent is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. It’s okay for parents especially moms to mias their pre-kid life, good parents just realize that the sacrifices are worth it
This is an underrated comment! I would totally recommend Nightbitch for an empathetic portrayal of that exactly this. I’m not a mom but it still had me in tears.
i'm convinced this book is actually a horror story about marrying the wrong dude and having a kid with him. like - the kid is a caricature of a 'terrible horrible no good very bad' kid, but the husband? fucking enraging.
As a former "troubled child" I HATE the way the author characterizes the child. When I was little, I directed my emotional turmoil inward, but I could have lashed out at others just as easily. When kids (or anyone who doesn't know how to process complicated emotion) is hurting they lash out or lash in. Also, how did the author write the mom nearly making the daughter choke and then end up deciding that the kid was evil? WHAT??? At nine years old I would write insulting notes about myself, but only got in trouble when I wrote it on school property, because who cares about a kid's self-hatred problem? I bit my friend's coat as a way to lash out when I felt abandoned by her. Was that ok? No, but it's very similar to the kid in this book trying to bite the kid's arm, so that's when I realized that her behavior was consistent with lashing out from emotional trauma. I'm just confused by the lack of empathy demonstrated by the author and mother character. I didn't get help until I tried to end myself (literally) while at school in 3rd grade. First I got suspended, and then got a therapist. The lack of curiosity from the adults in my life did nothing to help me cope. Maybe that's why I'm so mad at this book.
Love how the father actually starts strong for once, saying it's dangerous and a violation, and then just backpedals immediately when the daughter feigns ignorance. Like, beside the complete the disregard for his wife's safety and not listening to her, we already know he is an awful and neglecting husband, your daughter just told you she doesn't understand something and he lets it fall instead of explaining it. That's not loving your daughter too much, it's not caring about her.
“one kick and that kid is gonna eat shit on the curb” FOR REALLL I CANT 😭😭 i loved these two videos you put out, thank you again for making the rant interesting despite this extremely infuriating book
As a therapist who works almost exclusively with children and teenagers (which of course means having to work with their parents as well and have all sorts of reactions to our work) who're deeply traumatized, often having hallucinations, delusions, and other symptoms that horror movies love, the amount of times I went -.- at how everything in this book is handled is ASTOUNDING. I'm also an author myself, which only made these two videos more impossible to look away from.
the descriptions of the violent child in this are giving me war flashbacks from my job as a preschool teacher, lol. though if a child acts like that, the solution isn't ''oh maybe this child is evil'', it's ''hey we recommend this child be evaluated by a professional so we can support them better," and also maybe a call to CPS. unfortunately the "whaat, she would never do _that!_ her? never!" is a very, very normal thing for parents of kids like this to say. which is deeply unhelpful to the children, and I hate the amount of times it's happened in real life.
Dad asked for proof that Hanna caused that kid problems but don't most schools, especially preschools/kindergartens have security cameras in the class rooms and halls to make sure that if something happens to the kids there's video evidence (doubly so if it's a school of special needs kids)?
You know, this book could have been a creepy novel about demon possession, an intense story of a woman and her child with conduct disorder, a PSA about ableism in family, but no. We got buffoonery and bad Swedish porn ft. Children of the Corn
How come the therapist didn’t report for a welfare check when the mum told her the concerning information that looks like she’s being sa’d, she just like did nothing except tell their suspicions to the person they suspected of being the a’er
They were just like hm this is concerning behaviour, could this be happening? if so could this be him? hm maybe let’s check his computer for anything concerning, they find the disturbing search history on his computer and then nothing happens the whole plot there is dropped
The therapist didn't report even though in the US they're legally mandated to report these things to CPS. The doctor toward the end of the book also didn't report that this woman is either being physically abused by her kid, or is convinced that her child is a danger to her and thus could be a danger to the child... Either way you should be reporting that to CPS or a similar authority. Medical doctors are also legally mandated to report these things (this is why your doctor asks, or should be asking, whether you feel safe at home, at some point during every checkup. If you say no or tell them you're being abused, they have to report that).
Going just by your description. The strangest thing about this book is the lack of interaction with other people unless it's about the child. Seems so odd this child pretty much never sees any kids their own age or interacts with them and the mother doesn't seem to talk to anyone for friendly reasons. Seems like only the husband talks to other people and that's due to work.
Yeah like I have several friends who were homeschooled and it's like...they still went to parks and played with other kids? And like indoor play gyms or something, like there's even homeschool groups that organize co-ops and field trips, like I'm pretty sure rich Boujee parents like these would be into that? And the mom doesn't have a single friend either? No one from her old prekid life who also went on to have kids? No mom groups? You mean to tell she didn't like at least look at a mommy fourm and go "Does anyone else's child start peeing and pooping themselves long after potty training? It feels like it's out of spite but idk 😐"
According to the author in an interview for another book she had written called “Wonderland” she says: And both characters share at least one aspect of Stage’s childhood. “I remember very strongly how misunderstood I felt as a child,” says Stage, “and how hard I tried to make myself understood, and I just couldn’t. “And the other part of it is, I feel like kids are very sensitive and very receptive. Because they haven’t mastered language, like with Hanna, or mastered how the world works, it’s very hard for them - because they have a different perspective of what’s normal - to make anybody understand them.”
@@Cat-uo4vw Honestly, objectively, I don't disagree with the sentiment. I think kids feeling misunderstood and unable to verbalize what they feel to be understood is a theme that is not only universal but can be pretty compelling....PROBLEM IS She went about showing that in ALL THE WRONG WAYS
The biggest mystery of this book is what S-tier voice training taught this girl how to have a NATURAL French accent. I know it was stressed before, but it bears repeating that that’s RIDICULOUSLY HARD
It’s pretty common for writers to not be very good at writing children. But this book really is on its own level. Utterly embarrassingly bad, even for an incredibly schlocky thriller.
This book is honestly a wonderful teaching device!!! Don’t let a Swedish man bust a nut inside you. Truly an invaluable lesson we should all take to heart.
8:50 actually Cindy when my sister was like, 3, she was a whiz at getting through baby-proof contraptions. She never even did anything bad or dangerous once she unlocked them, she just enjoyed the challenge of figuring out how they worked. Once she figured them out, it was a solved puzzle, her work was done, she moved on.
29:08 - OHHHHH so that's why the mom was deliberating about their traditions and holidays while in the tub earlier! It was a clumsy attempt by the author to set up that Walpurgis Night is approaching! So we had some reference as to what it is when the dad brings it up to the kid! Too bad it was done so shoddily. Could the author really not find a better place to reference this than directly after the child gave the mom a collage of dead people? 💀
Yeah, I drank half a bottle of calpol (strawberry flavoured cold medicine - not sure if you have it in the us) when I was 4. Thought I was taking care of myself one morning when I was feeling woozy, and that my parents would be proud of me. The hospital trip was not fun - I still have difficulty giving blood.
When I was nine months my parents found me in the bathroom with an open ibuprofen bottle and red dye all over my mouth Turns out I just sucked the dye off all the pills and spit them on the floor when I was done, but I don't think either of them ever recovered from the heart attack lol
This whole book just reeks of "author thinks children are evil nasty little gremlins" and rather than just choosing to remain child free, decided to make it everyone else's problem instead.
Gee, I don't like children much, but even I wouldn't write any child like this. Even the character who grows up to be a murderer was just a child once, whom I have sympathy for (he's not a murderer because of trauma, but he learned values that he took to the extreme. I just have sympathy for how it could have been different)
the mom may be stupid, the kid might be a nightmare, but the dad actually made my blood boil. i don't think i could have made it through this book without chucking it through the window
I guess the guys falukorv was too fat for her to give up or something. No seriously, I feel like the only reason she still likes him is that she never dated anyone before him and she dont have any outside contact except for him.
I've been so hyped for this since finishing the first part lmao - idk how this book even got published??? Maybe they were hoping the shock factor alone would push sales
“My real happy ending would of been just not starting this book in the first place” is such a mood. I’m so glad I finally found someone who hates this book as much as I do.
The "darker" scenes in this book always just felt pointless and for pure shock value. Reminds me of something another RUclipsr I watched said: "It's like a PIzza Cutter, all edge with no point"
@@lemonicowo Haha 😭 I think you found the reason why I have had the ear infection for 3 weeks. Thanks I feel like I am finally starting to recover a little 😊
@@Topdoggie7 Thanks 😊my doctor told be about that so I have been really careful. It’s good you managed to recover before it really got to your brain. Hopefully mine isn’t that bad, I’ll see soon when I go ENT.
8:45 FYI, child-resistant lids are only designed to make it more difficult for children 4 and under to get into a container. Thhey will not stop all kids from opening the bottle and are mainly meant to slow them down. (MY 2 y/o opened a child-resistant medicine lid once.) By the age of 5, nearly every child will be able to open a child-resistant lid. By 7, ,any normal child should be able to do it. (Coming up with a plan to fill capsules with flour to make her mom sick is something else altogether. Pretty absurd.)
Fun fact: If you take a drink every time someone acts like an idiot you will wake up next to Marie Anne Dufosset in heaven
RIP Marie Anne Dufosset u would have loved ur legacy
Imagine, if the afterlife is real, the moment someone, at some point, will have to explain Marie Anne Dufosset exactly what the f*ck went down with this book exactly
@@teifan6674 I would feel so bad like imagine being Marie Anne Duffoset. She was falsely accused as a witch, died a horrific death, then ended up in some stupid ass book with a demon kid, a swedish man and a doormat mom. Like I can't tell which one is worse honestly.
I cackled like a witch when I read this HELP
@@kaiser9598 do not be publicly known you'll be next 😭😭
The author missed an opportunity for a real plot twist; I would have immediately redeemed this book if it turned out the dad wasn't even Swedish the whole time
That would be hilarious
yes
As a swede, that would be the best thing ever, i don’t want to be associated with this book in any way 😅
and his obsession with swedish traditions was just him overcompensating 😭
I'm screaming
This book is like the extended form of that tweet that's like "why do we blame deadbeat dads for not being around, and never question if the kid just has bad vibes?"
Omg ur right
I have never seen that tweet but that's So Funny lmao like who the hell thinks that
Lmao
Honestly this book gives the mom a great out to divorce her husband and say “fuck them kids”. And I would support her for it.
It doesn’t matter if the mom went wrong somewhere or if the kid is a menace, because I think we can all agree that the real villain of the story is the dad.
100%
The SWEDISH dad
@@jexil4066right, thanks for reminding me. They really should've mentioned that more with how important it was to his character.
Mom: Forces kid to eat until she chokes.
Doctor: Was there anything that could've caused her to act out like this?
Mom: We wanted to give her a Swedish name.
💀💀💀💀
ikr? i thought the mom was going to bring up that one time she almost caused her child to choke on her food after force feeding her but no💀
honestly at that point she probably regrets that the kid DIDN'T choke to death lmao
That would actually be a good skit. I wonder if there are other instances she forgot
i mean admittedly she might not remember it the same way as Hannah does. I remember my parent, who is the sweetest person ever, once threatening to leave me in a forest. She says she did so after I repeatedly stated I wanted to run away from home and leave them, I don't remember that part, so I can't confirm, but I'm inclined to believe it since I had a phase like that. She didn't mean to scare me as much as she ended up doing, and I didn't tell her. The point is, children prioritize differently, so while it doesn't make the act less traumatizing for Hannah, it would explain why the mom doesn't have it as a massive incident
What I can't get over is how they not once think she could've picked sexual behavior from them fcking in the living room at like 9:30 ...
the therapist’s explanation of Hanna’s behavior was like a breath of fresh air it was the most coherent this book was the entire time 💀
Probably bc she didn't use any ellipses
Frankly I’m sick and tired of stories where special needs children are acting “like that” on purpose to spite their parents.
Yeah it's not a good look
As someone on the spectrum, books like this bring me back to those autism mommy blogs where they would act like their disabled kid was literally the spawn of satan or something. The whole mentality feels so ableist and gross.
ikr. it just makes us a target for more hostility
Seriously. And let's not forget that horrendous description of the *special kids school* in part 1 💀💀💀💀💀
the homestuck police agrees w u
Alex could literally be replaced with an IKEA sign and nothing would change
FACTS
Atleast IKEA has tasty meatballs
@@AdaTheWatcher Alex apparently has tasty meatballs and a firm butt
Feminist win 🥳💃✨ Man in novel fails sexy lamp test! 🤩💖😍🔥
Lmao
Imagine having a burn victim wheeled into your ER and the first things she says to you is "Where are you from? No. Where are you REALLY from?"
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Reminds me of this State Farm ad
@@ThatEnbyAkutagawaKinnie Oh my god 😂
My villain origin story fr
This entire book in a nutshell
Hanna: I'm going to torture mommy in a way that no child should even be able to think of much less pull off
Mom: oh no my husband - who is swedish - our child is demented
Dad: nah honey she didn't mean to bite off your finger :)
Mom: wow you are so swedish
**they bang as Hanna watches**
LITERALLY THOUGH
Imagine someone reading this comment before watching this and the previous video, then saying "WTF? There's no way it's that bad." Well, that fictional strawman has a big storm coming.
🗿🗿🗿
The dad would literally compliment Hannah on how strong her bite is and tell her that biting off her mom's finger wasn't really nice >:(
😭😭😭 this comment killed me ⚰️
I love that the kid knows Egyptian hieroglyphics but then she has to google how to start a fire lmao 🤨
Special interests be like that
Tbf in the book (if I’m remembering correctly) she learned “hieroglyphics” from a school project, which is a thing I can remember doing as a kid. But said hieroglyphics aren’t actually accurate, they’re kids drawings. So I’m assuming that’s actually what the author was trying to insinuate, but the idea of a kid actually taking the time to code in hieroglyphics is so much funnier.
Not to mention in the first part of Cindy’s rant, the kid spells bitch and fuck but spells weak as “week” (mind you, the misspelled weak was in the same sentence as correctly spelled fuck)
Honestly as a former kid with an ancient Egypt hyperfixation, you can find (extremely oversimplified, probably) translations online of hieroglyphics into Latin letters, so you could probably use that as a code if you wanted.
But a 7-year-old can't do this level of complex planning. If one could, the problem isn't just that she's evil, it's that she's not being challenged enough in school and needs to skip a grade or several (and maybe that's part of why she's acting out; she's bored. That doesn't justify why she hurts people, but her parents need to start giving her more advanced books and homeschooling materials to use).
That kid literally said "I can excuse dead bodies but I draw the line at blood" I am BAFFLED
Make it make sense
i can kinda understand that bit actually. seeing violence/disturbing content on a screen is one thing, and it can feel very detached from reality, especially for a kid. you don't fully process the real-world repercussions and get desensitized to seeing violence. but that doesn't necessarily translate to committing those acts in the real world. so experiencing the actual effects of witnessing something horrific like that where someone is bleeding and wailing in pain could definitely be an "oh sh*t" moment, because she'd never dealt with the effects in real life before. hopefully that makes sense. but the book altogether is really inconsistent and bad, so i don't think the author put that much thought into it lol.
@@sincerely-sparrow While I agree I still think pictures of real life corpses look so different than the ones from TV that they look disturbing.
If it was said that the kid used images from horror movies or police procedurals maybe it would have made more sense.
it doesn't even make sense because earlier she made that other kid bleed when he hit his head on the wall
I can buy that. Its like the difference between seeing blood in movies and in real life. I have some anecdotal evidence to back it.
Honestly? With the amount of unhelpful, counterproductive things the husband did in this book, I feel like it would have made more sense for him to have ACTUALLY been confirmed to be abusing the kid. If all the putting off talking about it and dismissing her aggressive behavior was for the sake of his wife not finding out what was actually going on. Maybe the kid could have been mad at her mom for not noticing? Idk, I'm just trying to think of ANYTHING that would have made more narrative sense than whatever this book tried to do. I guess the real horror was the bad books we read along the way.
literally anything else would have made more sense LOLLL
Wait I’m 5 minutes in. That ISNT the twist????
@@k80_ you poor thing
Yah, and then maybe the reason shes so sweet with her dad is to try and appease him?
This book for me is a mix of Orphan, The twin and a brazilian book story I read about child abuse... Its like perfectly mixed :'I
Look I know it's an hour after she said it but I'm still not over "He's Swedish" as a reason he can't be an abuser. It's living rent free in my mind.
Edit: this author is just obsessed with Sweden. That's the book
NEVER forget he's swedish
If Swedish men were confirmed to Never Be Abusers then like... wouldn't the women of the world just all flock to get a Swedish husband? Sounds logical to me, since that would ensure domestic abuse wouldn't be a problem for themselves or their future children.
It really just sounds dumber the further you take it.
I know little about Sweden but this book is a crime they should pay for
I know nothing about the author, but I feel like she had a fling with a Swedish guy (or just fantasized about one) so she wanted to include the random knowledge she gleaned in one of her books
It just astounds me that the wife didn’t divorce her husband for being so dense and dismissive when it came to their gremlin of a child. Like either that Swedish “D” was that good, or she’s a masochist. No man or child is worth this headache💀💀
She's devoted to him because she has nothing else going on in her life I guess
@@withcindy we love seeing a strong empowering woman lead who does nothing but get oh so tormented by her special needs child and fight with said child for attention from the husband 😍
I agree, but I also feel like it's a very common relationship dynamic :/ not the devil child part obviously but fathers completely checked out of their children's problems, specially more serious ones, and mothers having to handle everything on their own
@@withcindy Didn't the book imply she had a child just so her husband didn't leave her?
Makes it more depressing.
@@kerollaynemoreira7536 true, which could have been an actually interesting point for the author to explore instead of literally no character development and craving that good swedish d
Kinda feel like the book would've been more interesting if the author had leaned into the horror of like 'women being pressured into having a kid she doesn't actually want and then has a hard time connecting with her kid who picks up on that' instead of whatever weird freudian relationship and demonization of special needs kids is going on. And i'm still not over just how oblivious (and swedish) the husband is. this rant was a delight :D
i think thats what the author was trying to go for? but it ... was not executed well
We Need To Talk About Kevin- author did that, but execution was way better than whatever this book was.
@@firstnamelastname-zf3gg ooh adding that to my to-read list
Have you read The Push by Ashley Audrain?
Totally. It feels like the author watched The Babadook and The Exorcist and misunderstood them both.
Oh yes, the daily reminder not to have children. Or a Swedish husband. Cindy delivers again!
Never forget
Why is it that everything I've heard about Swedish men so far has been negative 💀
@@shakirashipslied9721 Because it is a funny joke, dunno what you've been hearing. XD
@@katewilson9723 Literally so many things 💀 from majority alt-right, stalkers, too weak and whatever. It has been a moment.
Same. This book really did Swedish men or kid dirty
the writing of this book kind of reminds me of those autism moms who act like their kid is actively malicious and plotting against them
As someone from Sweden, the Swedish terminology in this is book something you would read in a IKEA catalog lmao
I think the author is swedish??
Not after this book
@@ellawasberg3317 🤣🤣🤣 jajajaha
@@withcindy I may not be swedish yet I feel obligated to apologize for this book.
Is it called Walpurgis night in Sweden? I always thought that name was German and google is saying Swedes call it Valborg
This plot is just so frustratingly contrived. I hate that the author painstakingly points out the plot holes in their own work and does nothing to rectify them. The mom never takes a goddamn picture of the daughter's shenanigans despite mentioning it like 7 times.
Lol it's like if the characters think about it that somehow absolves the lack of logic
Ah yes, another instance where I yell "ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR PROBLEMS DOES NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY" at a book
Tbh I think it's partly just the mother going "I don't want to upset my shitty husband I'm gonna deal with this quietly on my own"
@An Alias But she does talk to the husband about Hanna's shenanigans, and he gaslights the shit out of her. Anybody would've taken as many pictures and videos as possible, as proof she wasn't losing her mind or wasn't being high.
Also, as an author, that's the kind of stuff you notice very easily when you write your first draft, so you can rewrite a better plot in your next drafts. This means the author either published their first draft or the script hasn't been edited properly. In both cases, where is the professionalism? (Probably smashed under the author's bed like Hanna's potato)
Also why the fuck is the mum constantly like napping and falling asleep around this asshole child? Why would you ever leave her unsupervised?
Not gonna lie I thought the mom was in an abusive relationship (or an unhealthy defendant) relationship with the husband. The way he’s so neglectful of what’s going on at home, dismisses the daughter’s behavior and mom’s concerns, lashes out his anger at the mom,how the mom is so isolated and alone, the mom’s line that was like she wasn’t really happy until she met her husband and the way she’s instantly concerned with what the husband will thing when she’s physically hurt in a way her appearance is affected (ie her hair cut and cheek burn). All of this had me side eyeing the husband.
the husband is the real villain
as someone with a personality disorder who knows a bunch of people with ASPD, im sickk of stories where small children are diagnosed with "sociopathy" because they're acting out, and then frame the kids as these "sick and twisted demon children". like, first of all, personality disorders are most often developed from trauma. Usually childhood and generational, mine is a little bit of both. Second of all, kids aren't diagnosed with ASPD. Minors with ASPD are diagnosed with a conduct disorder (CD), and the diagnosis is changed to ASPD if the symptoms persist into adulthood. Just goes to show how little people know or care about mental health, this is surface-level google shit!
Are you surprised? The author literally had the dad call the kids in Special Ed the R slur 😩
@@BooksandBuns honestly, even strong, self declared mental health "allies" treat ppl with stigmatised disorders like this. i wouldn't be surprised even if this book was presented as some sorta genuine educational piece.
Very upsetting I can't I say was diagnosed in my 20s been told that you can't feel sympathy don't you know you do it more being an autistic child that you're evil and you have no feelings actually affect your later life
ok
im so glad to see someone point this out oml
has the dad ever had a single smart thought in his life
Never
No. It's too full of Swedish thoughts
@@curleyqreviews9793 LMAOO
He hasn't had a thought in general.
@@curleyqreviews9793 😩😂💀
It's the way this singular book is so absurd that it spawned a rant video longer than the total ACOTAR trilogy rant 👁👄👁
ACOSF would beg to differ
I've been obsessed with this book for years because of just how insane it is
The real horror of this book is having to put up with that man.
period
Welp, as a swedish preschool teacher this book is a nightmare on so many levels lmao. I think what weird me out the most is that if the author really wanted ro write a story about children lying about witches and the devil and have the whole Swedish thing be relevant, they could easily just have switched the French witch to a swedish one. We have a whole thing about Easter witches and children back in the day describing being kidnapped by witches and taken to meet the devil and even watching him have sex with the witches. There's plenty of disturbing stuff to reference and it would make the constant "he's swedish" less irrelevant.
Maybe she didn't want negative things to be associated w swedish??
@@withcindy Then why is the husband the worst possible thing one could associate with Swedish?
@@ZundelArt only pewdiepie has him beat for worst swede
@@blearyeyedchangeling Don't forget Notch. That man makes Pewdiepie look like Greta Thunberg.
@@blearyeyedchangelingWait is Pewdiepie actually not popular anymore? I have never cared for his channel at all, but has he fallen from grace or something?
As a pharmacist, I doubt even I can properly fill capsules so perfectly. I guess this brat is gonna steal my job now
Lmaoooo
"i wish I had a gun, too" is much more frightening than that stupid monologue. This is a kid. The author was trying so hard to make a psychopathic character but everything is laughable, so the character ends up being pathetic instead.
LOL I'm like dude ur a child... Chill
@@withcindy Just finished the video and I want to say, thank you for your service! Sometimes I want to read "bad/weird books" for entertainment purposes but my attention span says otherwise.
aside from all the craziness that happens in this book, the amount of "..." when anyone talks is driving me nuts. whenever they have a conversation, it's like they're just loading 😭😭
FORREAL LIKE COMPLETE A DAMN SENTENCE
I loved listening to Cindy reading it ngl. Makes it easy to imagine they're saying "dot dot dot" out loud whenever they don't know how to finish a thought lol
This book has consumed my every thought these last few days. I’ve never wanted more to know how a book ends and I actually feel ashamed about it
Prepare to be let down
Me too, I’ve been on the edge of my seat waiting for this part 2
its kind of like a car crash
@@MaxEverywhereSystem its exactly like a car crash.
It was so anticlimactic I'm so upset
The worst part is that, while the kid is absurdly resourcefull and her motivations make no sense, the parents are sadly realistic. My sister is a lawyer who does a lot of child support lawsuits, and really there are people who are as dense and in denial about their own family as Alex is (specially if their child has developmental issues or is neurodivergent), not to mention fathers who just expect the mother to do all the work in rising a child and runaway to the gym or the office everytime their spouse brings a problem. Suzette reaction at the end of "now that the pesky brat is gone I can finally enjoy my swedish saussage in peace, this is all I ever wanted from life" is also sadly accurate, seriously people *go to therapy before even consider having a baby, it doesn't matter how optimistic and hopeful you feel about life THALK TO A THERAPIST FIRST*
True, neurotypical parents be like that sometimes (too often)
This reinforces my phobia of children and Swedish men
Good
I've always been scared of kids they freak me the hell out.
"Maybe daddy was mistaken. Maybe the other children weren't clever enough to cojure ways to handle their problems." My jaw is on the FLOOR. WHAT was she smoking and when she wrote this????
YEA.......
Honestly as someone with IBD, I’m surprised the mom’s condition didn’t get brought up more. Stress worsens symptoms. She would be in immense abdominal pain from all the fear and anxiety. Yes she’s on treatment, but even on treatment you can experience flare ups and symptoms. I wouldn’t doubt that the author brought up Crohn’s disease just to add the diarrhea scene and that’s it.
As a mixed-race nurse who regularly gets hit with "Yeah, but where are you REALLY from?", this hurt my soul.
Also, that doctor should have called General Protective Services to report Hanna's behavior.
christ, i have some major issues but i never had to be worried about being asked where i’m “really” from. that sounds exhausting. wish for the best for you.
Dude you're dramatic as fuck, it's an easy question, what's your ethnicity? What's the country you descend from? How is that offensive? Just admit that you're so ashamed of your country of origin you'd get all sensitive when it's mentioned
The fact that this kid wasn’t reported to CPS years ago is both surprising and not surprising. I can equally believe no one would report obvious abuse and also believe that they report what isn’t abuse (in the book logic that Hanna is just Like This and totally not being abused by her parents) and get the parents arrested.
@@Wired_User In the state I live in, General Protective Services is called when a very young child commits a serious delinquent act.
If the doctor suspects Hanna's parents are abusing her (which would likely be the case in real life), they, as a mandatory reporter, HAVE to call CPS. Not reporting could result in legal penalties including jail time.
Would you want to get in involved with some weird white woman’s drama? Better to be safe and sorry…
Plot twist: the Swedish dad isn't actually Swedish and suddenly has no character whatsoever
He just simply disappears
🤣 This is my fave comment so far
He's reads like a guy who backpacked in Sweden for like two weeks and made it his whole personality.
He took a DNA test and was like 0.05% Swedish and decided it was his personality.
Him having no character is still pretty much a fairly Swedish thing, so it fits either ways.
i hate the trope of disabled/special needs kids abusing their carers like we arent at a MUCH higher risk of abuse from them
After hearing the ending, the thing I don’t really understand is why we leave out the forced chewing thing being the root of Hanna’s justification. In her own recounting of the scene, she’s doing things to get on her mom’s nerves: dropping food on the floor, spitting it into her mom’s face. Her mom shoving the food into her mouth is the only time she really reacts to Hanna’s actions, so just make it that she’s trying to get the same reaction again. Like, her father has no boundaries for her, obviously, but this incident showed Hanna’s that her mom *does* and she tries to get her to react again because she is curious about it or something. And write that she’d read some weird scarring stuff when her babysitter abandoned her one time so she knows weird stuff. I don’t know-it all feels like an AI tried to remake ‘We Need To Talk About Kevin’.
This feels like a family guy fever dream with this kid being an evil Stewie trying to kill Louis while Peter is just “huh? I’m Swedish”
So I feel like if the main character just decided to get a divorce and give the dad full custody of the kid, everyone would have been happier.
Although i feel like the kid is like any cartoon villain who loses their entire identity when they finally win and she’d get really bored really quickly lol
Also, i remember when i was a kid and thinking i was so smart trying to ‘trick’ my parents but it was always for like… mcdonalds or getting a treat at the store, and that shit never worked lmao i think the author watched The Orphan once and then wrote this mess
TBH would have been hilarious to see the dad deal with the kid as a single parent
No, but what if the plot twist is that the mom gets a new boyfriend and the kid finds out about him and becomes obsessed with HIM.
I agree, this really feels like a really badly written but insane version of The Orphan.
Probably because that movie has a really good but specific twist. You can't copy that twist without people knowing you copied that movie.
I think she wanted a "we need to talk about kevin"
@@fanaticaH I read some articles about Natalia Grace Barnet a few years back. Spoiled the twist for me, but truth is stranger than fiction sometimes lol
as someone who deals with sensory overloads the part about boy and a helmet made me squirm
there was no need to include direct violence against a disabled kid on the page :/
Gotta show how EDGY Hanna is
I don't know a single swedish man, but I feel the need to apoligize to every single of them after hearing about this book. They did you so dirty, king. Or got your ass exposed, one or the other.
Edit: I just finished the video and the ending was the most anticlimatic thing ever. I thought this was going to end with someone being killed but no, just with a vague promise of the kid someday doing something without any of us ever having a clue of what that something even was. It's like all set up, not pay off at all.
Your country has a lot to answer for!
😔
The euphoria I felt when I looked up the author and realized she isn't Swedish. We literally don't claim her lmao
It would be pretty neat if the story was just about the daughter pretending to be a witch to freak out her mom only for the mom to break down and go crazy. Also in my version the kid is a normal child and not this possessed lolita monstrosity.
Yeah I think that would've been more interesting. Or a story about the mom's ableism demonizing the child who is actually just a regular kid
@@withcindy Honestly I was fully expecting that too, like if it wasn't the dad gaslighting her, then there'd be some reveal that the Hanna pov was the Mom demonizing her and she was skewering everything. Then the photo collage and tic-tac stuff happened and I was like "oh"
You know what they say "there's no bad ideas, only bad execution"
I would like something like this, it would have been like a modernized version of The Turn of the Screw (but different from The Haunting of Bly Manor).
On The Turn of the Screw the nanny starts thinking the mansion is possessed by ghosts when it's just her not being adjusted to live on a place like that. Soon she starts thinking the kid she's caring for is possessed just because he was expelled from school from bad behavior, even when it was obvious that happened because his parents died and he was trying to cope.
@@fanaticaH This sounds interesting is it a movie or a book?
I- thought he was gonna throw her in the fire pit 37:18 I’ve never been more disappointed
Same! I was so proud of him for two milliseconds, and then nope, still a doofus.
I wish lmao
It would have been like that scene in Twilight
@@sunettas9738the one where the vampire sparkles? I haven’t read or watched twilight.
It's like the author watched "We Need to Talk About Kevin" and wrote a book that was less disturbing, but harder to get through.
Honestly it feels like she fed The Orphan and We Need to Talk About Kevin to an AI and this came out.
literally all this book is We Need to Talk About Kevin and Orphan combined but a badly executed version.
if i had a dollar every time cindy's neighbours walked into the hallway while she's recapping a sex scene, i'd have 2 dollars, which isn't a lot, but for cindy's sake, can we please keep it at 2 dollars?????
why does this always happen to me
The weaponised incompetence of the husband is definitely a form of abuse tbh. What a horrible man
Also the narration had me pissing myself 😂☠️ what even
this dad was such a bad husband and father that even the women from a court of thorns and roses wouldn't settle for him
The point about how it would be more realistic for her to be possessed also made me realize it would also just...be scarier. Like, at some point in writing this, the author had to ask herself "Hmm, what's scarier: the idea of an innocent child being controlled by a supernatural force and made to do horrible things against her will, or an Evil Prank Baby?" and she went with the Evil Prank Baby
Omg the whole inexplicable "how to draw" interlude had me howling...this book is insane...
LOLLLL WHAT WAS THE POINT OF IT
Honestly this book would've automatically raised a step if the actual reason the kid is so fucked is because the dad is such a horrible father that constantly enables the kid. Like Idk I think it would make more sense for the kid to see it as a way to push the dads boundaries and just test what she could get away with, probably not ever truly understanding consequences because the dad basically doesn't give her any, rather than just "Mommy was mean to me once multiple years ago, this means war 🤬🤬🤬" like obviously yea what the mom did was horrible, but it just feels so weird that that's the sole motivation for it?? Especially when the dad acts the way he does.
the way literally anything else could have been better
two hours later and I still don't know why tf this book is called Baby Teeth. that's the bigger mystery!
There was indeed no baby and no teeth
The way the book ends makes me feel like the author was planning to write a sequel with the kid executing her next plan to manipulate and torture her parents. You may not be out of the woods yet I fear
she has considered writing a sequel!
Can we start a petition to get her to stop? 😆
Is it bad that I low-key want a second book so that I can listen to Cindy rant about it ??👀👀👀
The sequel where she gets out and her dense parents had another kid that the mom actually likes and who is so sickeningly angelic and pure that it vomits rainbows. So of course Hanna trying to kill it is the plot.
@@Starburst514wait, is this official or are you speculating? I can’t tell.
as a swede i usually get a bit excited whenever sweden is mentioned abroad since it’s a pretty small country but atp i just never wanna hear it mentioned again 😭 i will say though it’s funny how you said the dad avoids conflicts, that’s so on brand of him. swedish culture means avoiding confrontation at allllll costs
Lol maybe he is an accurate character then
iiiiinteresting
Tell me about it! I met the woman living next to me for the first time just a few months ago, when she was nice and rang my doorbell to tell me there was a package waiting outside my door. We've both been living here for over 10 years. 💀
(insert obligatory: 'not all swedes', of course)
My culture meanwhile is "confrontation at all costs" and as much of a pain as it seems it sounds much better than being married to a man like the one in the book ☠
@@verybarebones where are you from?
You need to read "the Bear" by Marian Engel - such a messed up novel about a librarian's sexual encounter with a grizzly bear (yes you heard right) and somehow won several awards in Canada
I think I might have heard of this
Sis should've just gone for the other type of bear.
When people say they are into bears, this isn't what we are referring
im sorry what
This has to be a joke right? (Please tell me it’s a joke.)
I’m delighted there is a Part 2 to this. One hour isn’t enough for iconic master…pieces of s**t.
I couldn't bear to make a 2 hour video
so, my personal take on this book is that both of hanna's parents are abusive and her behavior is at least partially a result of that. her mother obviously lashes out at her, and obviously started doing that *before* hanna began exhibiting dangerous behaviors; given that she chokes hanna and later grabs her, we can establish that, partially due to her social isolation, hanna may see these behaviors as normal, even if she also picks up on her mother's desire to hide her own bad behavior from her father: thus, hanna mirrors her mother in this way. her mother is clearly struggling with her own dissatisfactions and desire to go back to a time before she had a baby, and takes that out on hanna.
meanwhile, it sounds kind of like a stretch that her father would be sexually abusive at first. but he treats her specially, so that even his wife is jealous. he lets her get away with everything. he avoids talking about her problems at all costs, which could be interpreted as a refusal to acknowledge guilt and the pain he's inflicting on her. and it is very rare for non-abused children to have an interest in sex; this is furthered by the disgusting passage in which hanna wonders why her parents 'never let her join them' or however it was stated. she demonstrates a lack of sexual boundaries, also common in sexually abused children. her simulating having sex with the devil under the mask of playing as marie-anne can be read as a child deriving self-destructive enjoyment from recreating their trauma. and her 'war' with her mother for her father's attention and love is extremely disturbing.
obviously these circumstances wouldn't excuse hanna's behavior, but children in harmful situations act out. they may suppress all emotion as a way to survive. they may torment others as a way to feel they have power in a life in which the only power they've ever seen displayed was used to cause harm. they plan, sometimes fastidiously, to get away with these things which they may be punished for, yet are the most frequent interactions they've seen. finally, there *is* some evidence pointing to a potential link between childhood abuse and psychopathy.
i haven't read this book, though after having seen this and all the absurdity-and-poor-writing-masquerading-as-horror in it, i will. and if i remember, i'll edit this comment with notes after i do.
Thank you for your thought-out comment. If only the author had cared even a fraction of the way you do here.
It is shitty if the author really was trying to make the mom look like a bad mom for missing her pre-kid life. Especially since she’s really the only parent. As a newish mom I’ve had guilt sometimes missing my pre-kid life. Being a parent is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. It’s okay for parents especially moms to mias their pre-kid life, good parents just realize that the sacrifices are worth it
This is an underrated comment! I would totally recommend Nightbitch for an empathetic portrayal of that exactly this. I’m not a mom but it still had me in tears.
i'm convinced this book is actually a horror story about marrying the wrong dude and having a kid with him. like - the kid is a caricature of a 'terrible horrible no good very bad' kid, but the husband? fucking enraging.
As a former "troubled child" I HATE the way the author characterizes the child. When I was little, I directed my emotional turmoil inward, but I could have lashed out at others just as easily. When kids (or anyone who doesn't know how to process complicated emotion) is hurting they lash out or lash in. Also, how did the author write the mom nearly making the daughter choke and then end up deciding that the kid was evil? WHAT??? At nine years old I would write insulting notes about myself, but only got in trouble when I wrote it on school property, because who cares about a kid's self-hatred problem? I bit my friend's coat as a way to lash out when I felt abandoned by her. Was that ok? No, but it's very similar to the kid in this book trying to bite the kid's arm, so that's when I realized that her behavior was consistent with lashing out from emotional trauma. I'm just confused by the lack of empathy demonstrated by the author and mother character. I didn't get help until I tried to end myself (literally) while at school in 3rd grade. First I got suspended, and then got a therapist. The lack of curiosity from the adults in my life did nothing to help me cope. Maybe that's why I'm so mad at this book.
Love how the father actually starts strong for once, saying it's dangerous and a violation, and then just backpedals immediately when the daughter feigns ignorance. Like, beside the complete the disregard for his wife's safety and not listening to her, we already know he is an awful and neglecting husband, your daughter just told you she doesn't understand something and he lets it fall instead of explaining it. That's not loving your daughter too much, it's not caring about her.
“one kick and that kid is gonna eat shit on the curb” FOR REALLL I CANT 😭😭 i loved these two videos you put out, thank you again for making the rant interesting despite this extremely infuriating book
ur welcome boo
As a therapist who works almost exclusively with children and teenagers (which of course means having to work with their parents as well and have all sorts of reactions to our work) who're deeply traumatized, often having hallucinations, delusions, and other symptoms that horror movies love, the amount of times I went -.- at how everything in this book is handled is ASTOUNDING. I'm also an author myself, which only made these two videos more impossible to look away from.
This kid could've helped me pass Latin with her linguistic gift what the-
LOL IKR
the descriptions of the violent child in this are giving me war flashbacks from my job as a preschool teacher, lol. though if a child acts like that, the solution isn't ''oh maybe this child is evil'', it's ''hey we recommend this child be evaluated by a professional so we can support them better," and also maybe a call to CPS.
unfortunately the "whaat, she would never do _that!_ her? never!" is a very, very normal thing for parents of kids like this to say. which is deeply unhelpful to the children, and I hate the amount of times it's happened in real life.
Dad asked for proof that Hanna caused that kid problems but don't most schools, especially preschools/kindergartens have security cameras in the class rooms and halls to make sure that if something happens to the kids there's video evidence (doubly so if it's a school of special needs kids)?
Hanna hacked it
The real horror is Cindy's neighbor hearing that passage without their consent. Even Hanna can't conjure this diabolical act.
You know, this book could have been a creepy novel about demon possession, an intense story of a woman and her child with conduct disorder, a PSA about ableism in family, but no. We got buffoonery and bad Swedish porn ft. Children of the Corn
The day this gets Portuguese Subtitles, I'll send this to all my family as a excuse to stay single and never have kids 🤣🇧🇷💕
I wish RUclips kept the option for ppl to submit captions!
Same but in french...
How come the therapist didn’t report for a welfare check when the mum told her the concerning information that looks like she’s being sa’d, she just like did nothing except tell their suspicions to the person they suspected of being the a’er
They were just like hm this is concerning behaviour, could this be happening? if so could this be him? hm maybe let’s check his computer for anything concerning, they find the disturbing search history on his computer and then nothing happens the whole plot there is dropped
Very good point!!
The therapist didn't report even though in the US they're legally mandated to report these things to CPS. The doctor toward the end of the book also didn't report that this woman is either being physically abused by her kid, or is convinced that her child is a danger to her and thus could be a danger to the child... Either way you should be reporting that to CPS or a similar authority. Medical doctors are also legally mandated to report these things (this is why your doctor asks, or should be asking, whether you feel safe at home, at some point during every checkup. If you say no or tell them you're being abused, they have to report that).
that little preview at the beginning got me thinking the husband threw the kid in the fire and i was actually intrigued lol
I wish
Going just by your description. The strangest thing about this book is the lack of interaction with other people unless it's about the child. Seems so odd this child pretty much never sees any kids their own age or interacts with them and the mother doesn't seem to talk to anyone for friendly reasons. Seems like only the husband talks to other people and that's due to work.
Yeah like I have several friends who were homeschooled and it's like...they still went to parks and played with other kids? And like indoor play gyms or something, like there's even homeschool groups that organize co-ops and field trips, like I'm pretty sure rich Boujee parents like these would be into that?
And the mom doesn't have a single friend either? No one from her old prekid life who also went on to have kids? No mom groups? You mean to tell she didn't like at least look at a mommy fourm and go "Does anyone else's child start peeing and pooping themselves long after potty training? It feels like it's out of spite but idk 😐"
i really question what events happened in this authors life for this to exist,, this was an insane ride
Those events did not involve editing
a toddler pushed her mom off a cliff Cruella-style.
A series of unfortunate events
According to the author in an interview for another book she had written called “Wonderland” she says:
And both characters share at least one aspect of Stage’s childhood.
“I remember very strongly how misunderstood I felt as a child,” says Stage, “and how hard I tried to make myself understood, and I just couldn’t.
“And the other part of it is, I feel like kids are very sensitive and very receptive. Because they haven’t mastered language, like with Hanna, or mastered how the world works, it’s very hard for them - because they have a different perspective of what’s normal - to make anybody understand them.”
@@Cat-uo4vw Honestly, objectively, I don't disagree with the sentiment. I think kids feeling misunderstood and unable to verbalize what they feel to be understood is a theme that is not only universal but can be pretty compelling....PROBLEM IS She went about showing that in ALL THE WRONG WAYS
The biggest mystery of this book is what S-tier voice training taught this girl how to have a NATURAL French accent. I know it was stressed before, but it bears repeating that that’s RIDICULOUSLY HARD
It’s pretty common for writers to not be very good at writing children. But this book really is on its own level. Utterly embarrassingly bad, even for an incredibly schlocky thriller.
never thought there'd be a day where i'm cheering on a dad throwing his kid
Not u supporting child abuse!!!
Same 😂🖤
This book is honestly a wonderful teaching device!!!
Don’t let a Swedish man bust a nut inside you. Truly an invaluable lesson we should all take to heart.
8:50 actually Cindy when my sister was like, 3, she was a whiz at getting through baby-proof contraptions. She never even did anything bad or dangerous once she unlocked them, she just enjoyed the challenge of figuring out how they worked. Once she figured them out, it was a solved puzzle, her work was done, she moved on.
This is a chaotic video title and I think I need a minute to unpack it all. Don't mind me
Take all the time u need
29:08 - OHHHHH so that's why the mom was deliberating about their traditions and holidays while in the tub earlier! It was a clumsy attempt by the author to set up that Walpurgis Night is approaching! So we had some reference as to what it is when the dad brings it up to the kid! Too bad it was done so shoddily. Could the author really not find a better place to reference this than directly after the child gave the mom a collage of dead people? 💀
LOOOOL We love subtle nuanced foreshadowing ❤️
she had to mention the fart because it made me laugh cindy. can i have some goddamn happiness
fine. have your fart! *poot*
Kids definitely can open child safe bottles. I got posion control called on me cause I ate a bunch of vitamins. I was like 9.
oh nooooo
Yeah, I drank half a bottle of calpol (strawberry flavoured cold medicine - not sure if you have it in the us) when I was 4. Thought I was taking care of myself one morning when I was feeling woozy, and that my parents would be proud of me. The hospital trip was not fun - I still have difficulty giving blood.
When I was nine months my parents found me in the bathroom with an open ibuprofen bottle and red dye all over my mouth
Turns out I just sucked the dye off all the pills and spit them on the floor when I was done, but I don't think either of them ever recovered from the heart attack lol
This whole book just reeks of "author thinks children are evil nasty little gremlins" and rather than just choosing to remain child free, decided to make it everyone else's problem instead.
I'm sure they author has a certain attachment to the kid as all writers do with their characters. But like..... Lol
Gee, I don't like children much, but even I wouldn't write any child like this. Even the character who grows up to be a murderer was just a child once, whom I have sympathy for (he's not a murderer because of trauma, but he learned values that he took to the extreme. I just have sympathy for how it could have been different)
the mom may be stupid, the kid might be a nightmare, but the dad actually made my blood boil. i don't think i could have made it through this book without chucking it through the window
The husbands favorite snack is definitely Swedish Fish LMFAO
The mom straight up just needs to divorce her swedish meatball man omg
She has nothing else going on in her life to be devoted to anything else
I guess the guys falukorv was too fat for her to give up or something. No seriously, I feel like the only reason she still likes him is that she never dated anyone before him and she dont have any outside contact except for him.
I DNFed this after a few chapters so I didn't know how it ended. Thank you for your service queen
It's what I'm here for
I can't believe I'm saying this but even Stig from Tall Girl had a more rounded personality than the Swedish husband.
I've been so hyped for this since finishing the first part lmao - idk how this book even got published??? Maybe they were hoping the shock factor alone would push sales
Prob relying on shock factor lol
Sometimes after Cindys roasts i wanna read the books myself just so i can sympathize and understand the pain Cindy had to go through for us
the new way of being an influencer
I did this with acosf and it was not worth it lol
“My real happy ending would of been just not starting this book in the first place” is such a mood. I’m so glad I finally found someone who hates this book as much as I do.
"...he hates pornography, we don't really know why..."
my brain: because he's Swedish
I am convinced this was either a retelling of a fever dream or the author was high whilst writing.
The "darker" scenes in this book always just felt pointless and for pure shock value. Reminds me of something another RUclipsr I watched said: "It's like a PIzza Cutter, all edge with no point"
may cindy find peace after the amount of times she said daddy and mommy
Thank you
Finally, something painful enough to distract me from my ear infection!
Time for another type of ear infection
you’d think “😈😈😈 yummy yum yum” would prolong the ear infection
(fr tho get better soon ear infections suck ass!!!)
Get better soon, I had one earlier this year threaten to eat my brain! Be careful!
@@lemonicowo Haha 😭 I think you found the reason why I have had the ear infection for 3 weeks. Thanks I feel like I am finally starting to recover a little 😊
@@Topdoggie7 Thanks 😊my doctor told be about that so I have been really careful. It’s good you managed to recover before it really got to your brain. Hopefully mine isn’t that bad, I’ll see soon when I go ENT.
8:45 FYI, child-resistant lids are only designed to make it more difficult for children 4 and under to get into a container. Thhey will not stop all kids from opening the bottle and are mainly meant to slow them down. (MY 2 y/o opened a child-resistant medicine lid once.)
By the age of 5, nearly every child will be able to open a child-resistant lid. By 7, ,any normal child should be able to do it. (Coming up with a plan to fill capsules with flour to make her mom sick is something else altogether. Pretty absurd.)
i think we can all agree that this husband's "personality" was the scariest part of this horror story
I think this would've worked better as a comedy than a psychological thriller, had me crying in laughter every time the dad was involved