Completely agree. This is what I thought the video was going to be, after seeing the thumbnail. They should either have a space on the chest piece that it can go on (resized if needed), or allow you to choose multiple locations to put it on (such as shoulders like H3).
I'm not going to spend £20 for an armour bundle when all I want is the gloves. I would spend £20 if I could pick through the bundles for the individual items I actually like
This has been one of my biggest complaints about the store along with them vaulting stuff. If I could just buy the parts that I want instead of whole bundles, and if things didn't get vaulted for no reason, I would be happy with the Halo Infinite store. Selling individual parts for a dollar each would also give those 30+ item bundles more value at 20 bucks.
Honestly I hate the vaulting I wish it was like reach where you could just look at the catalogue and buy it whenever and I also wish you could earn credits in game 😭
@@king_dot he's not talking about that, stuff like fractures you still cant buy in the store... why is that? thats literally the fomo shit they wanted to avoid
Bundles should give you a deal on items that would be more expensive if they were all bought individually. And then on top of that, returning bundles and items featured in the shop should be discounted which I think they already started doing. Edit: also why can’t we save our own armor kits to quickly switch sets. This should’ve been a thing by now because I’m pretty sure people have been asking for it.
@@SG_Exel yes glad to hear that. It’s a simple thing but I feel like it’s going to be almost necessary with the amount combinations especially if more cross core is implemented. Scrolling through the armor and coatings is getting wild. Also they should make the “favorites” filter stick and not make you set it every time.
Agree about the prices, that's a point nobody ever talks about is how Infinite's store is actually cheaper or equal to pretty much all the big f2p games out there. Big agree on this point too
IMO, the biggest issue is the coatings. That colour wheel picture is what 343 uses to create a coating. It takes them 5 seconds to create a new coating and sell it for 20$. IMagine how much customization we would have if we ourselves could edit those 8 or 9 options on that colour wheel. It would be insane. But instead, we're going to have 5 thousand coatings that are all very similar (like H5's visor issue). If I can't pick my colours, I don't care what armor I have. Sell coatings as something like the nailpolish, camo, bats, and so on that are COATINGS, and are applied ontop of the spartans. don't sell the colours themselves. I want my purple & gold spartan =(
This video sums up what I am feeling now with the store and armor customization. I don't have a problem with 343 making money off the customization to keep Halo Infinite's multiplayer free-to-play. But the amount of thinking and calculating it took to make some of my armor cores look sick without spending a ton of money was a lot of work. I'm at a point now where all of my cores are customized to my liking, while trying to only by bundles of stuff where I would use at least 60% of the stuff in the bundle. That still took buying at least 3-4 bundles where I only use like 1 or 2 armor pieces from them. 343i, if you guys read this, the helmet and coating cross-core additions were some of the best updates so far. It made some of my investments and all the work I have done in battle passes and events so so so much more worth it. I want to keep supporting the work y'all do by buying more armor components or coatings if they look awesome and go with the look I want for my spartan. That being said, though, the justification for each purchase becomes harder and harder if the price of admission for an entire bundle keeps outweighing the benefit of getting a couple of armor pieces or a coating that I want to use from it.
Now, comments like this is what I call a proper criticism. I salute you sir. Sure, I love Infinite and it annoys me to no end to see hate comments here and there. But Infinite do need criticisms for the game to be better. You sir, are one of those people that gives good criticism and hope that criticisms like yours can be heard so that 343 can improve the game 👍👍
Everyone talks about this very issue. I’d be spending so much more if they were individually. Cause I care less about most of the stuff outside of the weapon style mods and the effects. I didn’t spend any money in season 4 because it was not worth it to me. So they lost a whole year from me in season 4 because of it. And I spent just as little in season 3. And it’s gonna be the same for season 5. They’ve lost so much money from me cause of the bundles
Other game devs' such as 343 should take notes from how DE handles warframe. Imo they have the best monitisation system a free game could have - theres a plethora of free rewards that you can earn through gameplay - you can buy items individually (the only ones you have to directly pay for are the ones designed by fans as they earn a cut of it) - the premium currency is tradeable (although cosmetics arent) most cosmetics are giftable - theres a premium bundle that releases every few months thats quite pricey but most players i know gladly purchase them, not because the game forces you to spend money, but because they want to buy them, they want to support devs putting effort into a free game. Although warframe has a much more in depth customisation system and is a very different type of game, i still think halo could take a few pages from their book.
You actually reminded me of a video I was gonna make a long time ago! So thank you for that reminder! I'll mention your comment in the video when I make it, that is if you don't mind of course!😄
@@JohnDJ08 Making the best of a bad situation that I can't change does not make me a shill. I'm not excusing their prices. The entire point of this video was to try and help make everything cheaper.
Only issue other than this I have with halo infinite is…. That they have still yet to add the glorious operator helmet from reach like where’s my helmet at 343 :(
If 343 did sell them individually, the bundles could be used as a discount price, like when you buy it as a single piece it's 100 credits, but if they buy it as a bundle, your spending 50 credits on all the pieces, which could incentives people still buying the bundles but also gives them the option to pay for one item, like if you like the cool helmet, the gloves and coating in a bundle maybe get the entire bundle rather than all those piece individually
If they sell individual pieces, they're going to cost anywhere from 3-8 dollars, which, to be clear, I'm fine with. But don't kid yourself: individual armor pieces will not be $1.
Seeing more RUclipsrs talking about this & I’m glad. Most stuff we’ve talked about has been fixed & now that we’ve managed to get a solid foundation for the game w forge, ai, & cross core helmets, I think this should be the next thing we really push. The shop is flawed af, there’s so many items I’d like to get but won’t because they’re part of an overpriced bundle. They probably just don’t feel like coding a transactional function for every item
A thing to note is fortnight sells parts of a bundle separately. I can count the number of bundles i got there on one hand. But not even all my fingers and toes could account for one off skins and emotes I payed for
@@SG_Exelyep. this video is super relevant to me this week as well. I really really like the Life Thief AR model. I will not pay 22 USD for it. screw that.
Totally agree and is a sentiment I've seen tossed around a couple of times. The way I would do it is in each bundle every armor piece individually is 3 bucks a pop and things like coatings and spartan ID's are a buck. Then price the entire bundle like 10 or 20% cheaper than buying all the items individually. I'm sure a lot of people like my self wanted 1 specific armor piece but then were turned away from it because it was in a bundle. This way people who wanted a specific armor piece can get it and people who want the entire bundle will get a nice discount for doing so. It will ensentivise more people buying cosmetics and help earn 343 more money.
This video needs so much more attention! I think individual armour pieces should be purchasable for cheaper, with bundles containing multiple items for cheaper than the cumulative price of all individual items. Also I think the FOMO tactics need to be scrapped, with all items in the store being there after release. I think this would generate more money for 343 and Microsoft asuming the playerbase continues to grow (as more players are returning as of late). Another thing for me is cosmetics no longer being available due to being awarded in time limited events... It kinda sucks since the game was very hard to play from launch until recently. So many players missed out. These should definitely be brought back. An idea would be to have event items always being available, but maybe locked behind challenges. Since games like Halo 3 proved this to be popular.
I’m just glad we can actually customize at all still. I think if 343 had it their way they’d have fully converted to armor kits instead of the modular system
You are 100% correct. This is something I’ve thought since day one of this game. Let me buy things individually, and allow bundles for those who would wish to purchase several items they may want. For instance, I would’ve bought some of that flood armor if I could buy individual pieces. I rock ODST helmet with right Security and left Mk V shoulders. If I were to truly get everything I wanted to make my Spartan into a Flood Spartan, I have to spend $40 just for the credits to get the three or so pieces I want from two different sets, even with the sale for buying them together. 343 lost out on what could’ve been $10 because of a bunch of other crap I don’t want. Same goes for emblems and poses. There are some sick ass poses in the game, but I’m not gonna buy $20 worth of stuff I don’t give a damn about for just a pose. I have my armor sets that I like and I have my emblems I like. I’m not gonna shovel out $20 for something that should cost $2 or less.
EXACTLY! Having things be modular would help them soo much because they miss out on many transactions. Too many turn offs for bundles. Some of the Chimera and Eaglestrike bundles had really cool stuff but I didn't go for em bc cross-core hadn't yet been implemented, and I was only interested in a few items. Compare that to Firefall helmet which was 200 credits or something, and I use that often
I think technically that means you get more stuff for your buck in Infinite. However... I do wish we could buy the bundles a bit cheaper, like 25% and then buy all pieces individually. They said they were working on it a while back, but we have not gotten any updates about it. Edit : I think the other biggest issue rn is matchmaking. It's so algorithmic that it keeps setting you up for failure if you do too well. Mint Blitz has a video about it. I wish they would just remove SBMM in casual lists.
Ah yes I remember the days where I could play a game and earn things through experience and play time. But now I have to open my wallet just for a simple all black armor coating. Makes you think…..
I agree, the shop itself isn’t all bad but I definitely would prefer to just get the one thing I want rather than a whole bundle but like you said bundles aren’t that bad it just sucks that I gotta pay 10 to 20$ if I want a helmet. If they were to change the shop I know I would be willing to spend more money
I would like an armor core randomizer that randomly changes which core I use every couple games or so. That way, I can use more of the items I've unlocked/ paid for
Halo infinite needs a store like warframe has were you can buy items individually or in bundles.i used to play alot of warframe and i can tell you that I have spent more money on cosmetics when I have the option of buying it individually. They can even add a system similar to tenogen where they can add community made cosmetics.
An open Catalogue of items would be so much more great in the store. You couldn't have made a better speech on this topic. Something I must address is that there is now a glitch where the voices of all Spartans are at Default. To me, that drifts even further from the freedom of Customization. Even the Chimera Armor Core hasn't allowed players to access to a Female Voice. I could go on and on, but one at a time here.
I would also add that we can’t have multiple chest/helmet attachments equipped at once even tho many don’t clip/interfere with one another and Reach had this feature on practically every helmet. Spartan Dinh from the MP cinematics can be seen having the Machete and his signature fanged red chest plate, and we should be able to as well.
Yea I've been hearing a lot of people saying this for quite some time now, it probably comes down to it being less profitable for 343 (even though realistically, all the store BS is really pushed by the execs at Microsoft/Xbox)
Yes. Items should be individual and there should be bundles. Ive been saying it since launch. I actually thought this video was gonna be about how they need to update old equipment to match the color of the coatings lol
One sad thing is that event items won't return so they are lost, it would be cool if they added like a separate legacy events or smth like that so that returning players can get them too
So glad to finally see someone else who sees that infinite's bundles are about the same price as literally every other free to play live service game like it. You also hit the nail right on the head with the real issue.
@@SG_Exel No problem! Always great to see halo fans who don’t blindly hate infinite because 343 = bad but instead try to figure out what is actually bad about it.
@@EbagStudios 343 made a great game, they're just not quite used to live service yet! I love halo, and I will be sticking with it until the games stop being made! (unless they totally destroy its identity)
Been wanting a rocket league/Apex style match to match randomization setting in Halo. All the free stuff we unlock but you have to go and click it every time you wanna use it vs having 5 items favorited and having them cycle.
Ngl when i saw the thumbnail i had assumed it was assassinations, which isn't also a bad to have back. But i do agree that the shop should atleast allow us get that helmet, chest, shoulder pads, etc separately. I also think that we should atleast earn credits in game as well, cause everyone probably at this point has already finished the battlepass for season 5 and ofc not having to buy credits whenever that bundle is in the 2000s. Atleast have another way is all I'm saying that isn't just to buy or go through that battle pass thats already finished.
I WILL be doing a video about assassinations coming back! It is on the schedule trust me, they are one of my favorite features of the game and I will be talking about it mark my words!
Still no playable Elites. Some people won't ever touch these games again unless they come back. Like me. Still no dual-wielding. Still plagued with in game stores, passes, and terrible progression. Still no real freedom of customization. Instead locked to pre-made color patterns and Emblems, as well as armor options still being tied to the moronic "core" system. Why not have a Spartan or Elite, then make them fully customizable like every other Halo game before Halo 5? Oh wait... greed There's still many more problems
THIS!!!!! This is what I’ve been talking about since launch! I want to be able to buy visor colors and helmets etc. but I don’t want a shoulder pad and armor effect along with it that I’ll never use. Also I don’t understand why there’s no operator helmet at all that has always been my go to helmet back since reach
Well the reason 343 has these Bundles is because players buy them. As you said they probably would have more transactions overall if they implemented your better system, but the total value would realistically be less than they currently have with their sales. I know people who bought 10-20€ bundles because of one Helmet or Weapon Addon, so we see that people still buy bundles even if annoyed
Im against paying for armor, BUT if they had full cross core and items separately purchasable, I WOULD spend $2 on the samurai sword utility, and a few coatings that catch my eye
Would love to see new chest pieces that replaced your chest instead of attaching over it, similar to halo 3 instead of halo reach, just like you can replace your whole shoulder you should be able to replace your chest armor with something else allowing for more unique shapes of armor that don't look too bulky
Im pretry sure you can purchase some stuff individually, but for some dumb reason you have to go to the customize option, select the helmet yo havent bought, then it says “go to shop” and it lets you but it individually but this doesnt work for everythig theyve ever released only some stuff
Close! The knife on my chest that is circled in the thumbnail is something that I bought for 500 credits. It was only the knife that it came with and a couple of emblems and stickers. So technically it was still a bundle, I would have rather just bought the knife set for like 200 credits, you know what I mean? I never use the emblems anyway.
ive been saying this forever, I would actually drop 3$ for a helmet every couple weeks, or 2$ for a colour combo. I am not buying anything though because the bundle that comes with the helmet I want has items I do not want, and I cant justify dropping 20$ knowing Ill only use the helmet.
I completely agree. whilst most people are angry at 343 for the shop even being there, I personally feel as that it's fine as halo infinite's multiplayer is a free live service, and so it's completely justified that it exists. I personally feel the issue is exactly as you state in this vid and your examples show how the pricing is not the issue.
Bundles( ‘best value’ ) Build a bundle (slightly more expensive) Single items (reasonable but worst value) As much as I hate microtransactions this imo is the best way to do it for both sides, overall prices would need to be lowered and more players buying single items amounts to more profit over time
I have a 3D printed model of that helmet that I made with my own 3d printer at my house. And I'm painting its original halo 5 pattern on it. I. Love. My. Halo 5. Scout. Helmet. It's not called Celox, I don't care what 343 tries to change it to. It's called SCOUT. And it is mine.
I fear the day they finally add assassinations back into the game. Another customization slot that you can't earn... Wonder how much those will go for each...
Something I don't like is if I wanna have the Flame shoulder's with the Flame helmet I can't and I dislike that, allow each armor piece to have a Effect its really not that hard to code in (seriously I've done it in my personal game, which I'm still working on and hope to have out sometime soon but I'm not rushing as I'd prefer to release a polished game instead of a rushed one)
As somebody that plays this in a 3rd World country, if i even feel hesitant to buy a battle pass for $10 each, i'm NO way spending more than that for an armor set when i just want the helmet or the shoulders. Also, the coatings are MAD expensive, wanna buy a rare coating? well, pay almost the price of a BP, wanna cool helmet attachment? SAME THING! Honestly, the shop is sooooo much FOMO for me, and i really would to see changes for coatings and individual pieces of equipment. -Coatings should be cheaper -You should be able to buy any piece separetely -I think SOME bundles like the Flood one that costs 2800 credits is just INSANE, therefore, lower the prices of some of them. More bang for buck, 343, and you will profit a whooooole lot more!
I think another problem is that a lot of stuff either won't be available ever again, or it won't be available again until a certain time period. I stopped playing a week after launch, everyone should know why, and I just came back to find armors I would love to either earn or pay for, but I can't because it was a timed challenge or bundle last year
I'd even be happy if for example they took a ten dollar bundle with ten things but you could sell one individual thing for 1.50 or 2 dollars so 343 made more money but you can still buy individual things
You can actually get individual pieces, but im not sure if it works all the time. If it was previously in the item shop and you see it in the armour hall, simply click on more info and go to the store. You’d be able to buy them separately.
You are both right and wrong. Yes, you can buy anything you want from the armor hall, but you are also required to buy everything that was in the bundle when it was released.
Two things I want more then removing bundles, let me buy vaulted stuff, AND let me buy older event passes so I can earn or buy the content I missed for XY or Z, they are doing it this seaosn but what about past seasons? I missed JFO and shoulder pads Becuase I was in Vermont for the week
Y'all forgetting we still can't choose our own custom colors. Coatings are cool but bloody hell, let me select a primary and secondary color by default and then allow us to use coatings for special camos/patterns and what not!
We need better customization for chest pieces. Them being color locked to some gray-scale that was pre-determined ruins about 75% of the options we have
Bundles should stay and aren’t or ever were an issue. Bundle prices are an issue because they were actually affordable for what was in the bundle. Sky Marshall was around 800 credits it’s now 1,800 credits. Mind you it has 3 items in it yet they raised the price by 10 dollars. While you should be able to buy items individually bundles offer more. Bundles that offer 20+ items make 100% sense why they’re 2000 credits
Can we also mention how even though we've got cross-core coatings now, the store bundles still sell us a coating for each individual core? Why hasn't that changed yet?
The problem is that there's an "economy" surrounding it at all. The fact you need to pay for anything besides the game is disgusting. Our standards keep slipping and that's why these business practices keep getting greasier.
While I do agree with you, 343 has made the choice and I don't think they're going to change their mind about it. I would make a video covering that exact topic, but honestly I don't have enough influence for what I say to matter. But maybe they wont lock everything in the game behind a pay wall next time! We can always hope!
Free multiplayer where I don’t have to pay for map packs, and where 10 dollars gets you season 2-whenever-they-stop for free. Cross-core is coolio yo, but thats the biggest problem with the game aside from SBMM and the custom games browser.
i think it would just be a lot better if every armour part that you can buy can just be bought by its self and just remove the shop and you would get the parts the same place you equip them
I think Valorant does this the best way (despite their prices being god awful) they at least let you purchase separately at a slight markup compared to buying the whole bundle for a discount
I also don’t think it’s fair to put Reach armor behind a pay wall or timed events. Just put the rest of those items in another battle pass or something.
I completely agree, I made this topic my first one to cover because it seems relevant enough to get traction and it also seems like one of the easier problems to solve for sure!
Can't forget since Halo is a FPS and you only get to enjoy seeing your customization and $$ when you're in the menu, in a vehicle/using a turret, or dead in game.
Now, I’m still not a fan of the pricing of the items (that’s just me not liking current micro transactions prices as a whole), But, I know it won’t change (until they find a more profitable method). So, a way to improve this, why not have each parts purchasable individually but, make the bundle a ‘discounted’ price. If you want to buy just the one piece, you can. But, if you want most of the whole set, get the bundle.
This video NEEDS to go viral and get 343s attention. This is a big issue with the store. Completely agree with you, thx for the video!
No, thank YOU for the comment! Everything helps out when you're a tiny channel, so I'm glad to see that so many people like it and agree with me!
There is a problem no one talks about, and that's that most chest pieces cover up your emblem. Why even have an emblem at this point?
Completely agree. This is what I thought the video was going to be, after seeing the thumbnail.
They should either have a space on the chest piece that it can go on (resized if needed), or allow you to choose multiple locations to put it on (such as shoulders like H3).
And weapon emblems look stupid on different weapon models, all they have to do is move the emblem.
They need to put them on the shoulder pads like wtf?
They should let us choose where the emblem is like on the other side of the chest or on the armored that's covering it or on the shoulder
All I’m gonna say. If Halo had Armor Core level of customization…. It would be incredible.
I'm not going to spend £20 for an armour bundle when all I want is the gloves. I would spend £20 if I could pick through the bundles for the individual items I actually like
Seriously dude I feel the same way! And custom bundles would be an interesting idea!
If i want a emblem, i dont wanna pay 20$ for the whole bundle, i would rather get the one item for 5$.
This has been one of my biggest complaints about the store along with them vaulting stuff. If I could just buy the parts that I want instead of whole bundles, and if things didn't get vaulted for no reason, I would be happy with the Halo Infinite store.
Selling individual parts for a dollar each would also give those 30+ item bundles more value at 20 bucks.
Honestly I hate the vaulting I wish it was like reach where you could just look at the catalogue and buy it whenever and I also wish you could earn credits in game 😭
I mean you can buy vaulted bundles now you just have to do it from the customization menu instead of the shop
@@king_dot he's not talking about that, stuff like fractures you still cant buy in the store... why is that? thats literally the fomo shit they wanted to avoid
Bundles should give you a deal on items that would be more expensive if they were all bought individually. And then on top of that, returning bundles and items featured in the shop should be discounted which I think they already started doing.
Edit: also why can’t we save our own armor kits to quickly switch sets. This should’ve been a thing by now because I’m pretty sure people have been asking for it.
I actually was going to make a video about having preset armor loadouts! Great minds think alike!
@@SG_Exel yes glad to hear that. It’s a simple thing but I feel like it’s going to be almost necessary with the amount combinations especially if more cross core is implemented. Scrolling through the armor and coatings is getting wild. Also they should make the “favorites” filter stick and not make you set it every time.
*hopes 343 takes your comment to heart*
Agree about the prices, that's a point nobody ever talks about is how Infinite's store is actually cheaper or equal to pretty much all the big f2p games out there. Big agree on this point too
IMO, the biggest issue is the coatings.
That colour wheel picture is what 343 uses to create a coating. It takes them 5 seconds to create a new coating and sell it for 20$. IMagine how much customization we would have if we ourselves could edit those 8 or 9 options on that colour wheel. It would be insane. But instead, we're going to have 5 thousand coatings that are all very similar (like H5's visor issue). If I can't pick my colours, I don't care what armor I have.
Sell coatings as something like the nailpolish, camo, bats, and so on that are COATINGS, and are applied ontop of the spartans. don't sell the colours themselves. I want my purple & gold spartan
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i miss being able to pick my own colours :(
There's pieces I'd buy at a lot more than a dollar, but I'm still not buying the whole bundle at 15 to get at one thing
That is the exact problem that I have, and I definitely want it solved too!, only time will tell!
Same…there certain armor pieces I only like from bundles but I don’t pay too much for it
This video sums up what I am feeling now with the store and armor customization. I don't have a problem with 343 making money off the customization to keep Halo Infinite's multiplayer free-to-play. But the amount of thinking and calculating it took to make some of my armor cores look sick without spending a ton of money was a lot of work. I'm at a point now where all of my cores are customized to my liking, while trying to only by bundles of stuff where I would use at least 60% of the stuff in the bundle. That still took buying at least 3-4 bundles where I only use like 1 or 2 armor pieces from them.
343i, if you guys read this, the helmet and coating cross-core additions were some of the best updates so far. It made some of my investments and all the work I have done in battle passes and events so so so much more worth it. I want to keep supporting the work y'all do by buying more armor components or coatings if they look awesome and go with the look I want for my spartan. That being said, though, the justification for each purchase becomes harder and harder if the price of admission for an entire bundle keeps outweighing the benefit of getting a couple of armor pieces or a coating that I want to use from it.
Now, comments like this is what I call a proper criticism. I salute you sir. Sure, I love Infinite and it annoys me to no end to see hate comments here and there. But Infinite do need criticisms for the game to be better. You sir, are one of those people that gives good criticism and hope that criticisms like yours can be heard so that 343 can improve the game 👍👍
Everyone talks about this very issue. I’d be spending so much more if they were individually. Cause I care less about most of the stuff outside of the weapon style mods and the effects. I didn’t spend any money in season 4 because it was not worth it to me. So they lost a whole year from me in season 4 because of it. And I spent just as little in season 3. And it’s gonna be the same for season 5. They’ve lost so much money from me cause of the bundles
Other game devs' such as 343 should take notes from how DE handles warframe. Imo they have the best monitisation system a free game could have
- theres a plethora of free rewards that you can earn through gameplay
- you can buy items individually (the only ones you have to directly pay for are the ones designed by fans as they earn a cut of it)
- the premium currency is tradeable (although cosmetics arent) most cosmetics are giftable
- theres a premium bundle that releases every few months thats quite pricey but most players i know gladly purchase them, not because the game forces you to spend money, but because they want to buy them, they want to support devs putting effort into a free game.
Although warframe has a much more in depth customisation system and is a very different type of game, i still think halo could take a few pages from their book.
You actually reminded me of a video I was gonna make a long time ago! So thank you for that reminder! I'll mention your comment in the video when I make it, that is if you don't mind of course!😄
@@SG_Exel yeah of course! I dont mind
@@JohnDJ08 Making the best of a bad situation that I can't change does not make me a shill. I'm not excusing their prices. The entire point of this video was to try and help make everything cheaper.
Only issue other than this I have with halo infinite is…. That they have still yet to add the glorious operator helmet from reach like where’s my helmet at 343 :(
There's so much content that they can add from other games, I'm sure they'll get to it eventually!
If 343 did sell them individually, the bundles could be used as a discount price, like when you buy it as a single piece it's 100 credits, but if they buy it as a bundle, your spending 50 credits on all the pieces, which could incentives people still buying the bundles but also gives them the option to pay for one item, like if you like the cool helmet, the gloves and coating in a bundle maybe get the entire bundle rather than all those piece individually
That's a great way to implement this change! Thanks for the comment!
If they sell individual pieces, they're going to cost anywhere from 3-8 dollars, which, to be clear, I'm fine with. But don't kid yourself: individual armor pieces will not be $1.
@@thewaffle003 it was mainly for an example price i know they wouldnt sell things for a dollar
Seeing more RUclipsrs talking about this & I’m glad. Most stuff we’ve talked about has been fixed & now that we’ve managed to get a solid foundation for the game w forge, ai, & cross core helmets, I think this should be the next thing we really push. The shop is flawed af, there’s so many items I’d like to get but won’t because they’re part of an overpriced bundle.
They probably just don’t feel like coding a transactional function for every item
A thing to note is fortnight sells parts of a bundle separately. I can count the number of bundles i got there on one hand. But not even all my fingers and toes could account for one off skins and emotes I payed for
I've done the same plenty of times as well. Sometimes the items just go better with some stuff you already got!
@@SG_Exelyep. this video is super relevant to me this week as well. I really really like the Life Thief AR model.
I will not pay 22 USD for it. screw that.
@@noobking111 lol ABSOLUTELY NOT! I wouldn't pay that much either!🤣
Totally agree and is a sentiment I've seen tossed around a couple of times. The way I would do it is in each bundle every armor piece individually is 3 bucks a pop and things like coatings and spartan ID's are a buck. Then price the entire bundle like 10 or 20% cheaper than buying all the items individually. I'm sure a lot of people like my self wanted 1 specific armor piece but then were turned away from it because it was in a bundle. This way people who wanted a specific armor piece can get it and people who want the entire bundle will get a nice discount for doing so. It will ensentivise more people buying cosmetics and help earn 343 more money.
This video needs so much more attention!
I think individual armour pieces should be purchasable for cheaper, with bundles containing multiple items for cheaper than the cumulative price of all individual items. Also I think the FOMO tactics need to be scrapped, with all items in the store being there after release. I think this would generate more money for 343 and Microsoft asuming the playerbase continues to grow (as more players are returning as of late).
Another thing for me is cosmetics no longer being available due to being awarded in time limited events... It kinda sucks since the game was very hard to play from launch until recently. So many players missed out. These should definitely be brought back. An idea would be to have event items always being available, but maybe locked behind challenges. Since games like Halo 3 proved this to be popular.
I’m just glad we can actually customize at all still. I think if 343 had it their way they’d have fully converted to armor kits instead of the modular system
To be honest I wish we could customize the cookie palettes
You are 100% correct. This is something I’ve thought since day one of this game. Let me buy things individually, and allow bundles for those who would wish to purchase several items they may want.
For instance, I would’ve bought some of that flood armor if I could buy individual pieces. I rock ODST helmet with right Security and left Mk V shoulders. If I were to truly get everything I wanted to make my Spartan into a Flood Spartan, I have to spend $40 just for the credits to get the three or so pieces I want from two different sets, even with the sale for buying them together. 343 lost out on what could’ve been $10 because of a bunch of other crap I don’t want.
Same goes for emblems and poses. There are some sick ass poses in the game, but I’m not gonna buy $20 worth of stuff I don’t give a damn about for just a pose. I have my armor sets that I like and I have my emblems I like. I’m not gonna shovel out $20 for something that should cost $2 or less.
EXACTLY! Having things be modular would help them soo much because they miss out on many transactions. Too many turn offs for bundles. Some of the Chimera and Eaglestrike bundles had really cool stuff but I didn't go for em bc cross-core hadn't yet been implemented, and I was only interested in a few items.
Compare that to Firefall helmet which was 200 credits or something, and I use that often
I think technically that means you get more stuff for your buck in Infinite. However... I do wish we could buy the bundles a bit cheaper, like 25% and then buy all pieces individually. They said they were working on it a while back, but we have not gotten any updates about it.
Edit : I think the other biggest issue rn is matchmaking. It's so algorithmic that it keeps setting you up for failure if you do too well. Mint Blitz has a video about it. I wish they would just remove SBMM in casual lists.
I really want more flood events, also flood prosthetics
Ah yes I remember the days where I could play a game and earn things through experience and play time. But now I have to open my wallet just for a simple all black armor coating. Makes you think…..
I agree, the shop itself isn’t all bad but I definitely would prefer to just get the one thing I want rather than a whole bundle but like you said bundles aren’t that bad it just sucks that I gotta pay 10 to 20$ if I want a helmet. If they were to change the shop I know I would be willing to spend more money
I would like an armor core randomizer that randomly changes which core I use every couple games or so. That way, I can use more of the items I've unlocked/ paid for
Interesting concept 🤔
Halo infinite needs a store like warframe has were you can buy items individually or in bundles.i used to play alot of warframe and i can tell you that I have spent more money on cosmetics when I have the option of buying it individually. They can even add a system similar to tenogen where they can add community made cosmetics.
An open Catalogue of items would be so much more great in the store. You couldn't have made a better speech on this topic.
Something I must address is that there is now a glitch where the voices of all Spartans are at Default. To me, that drifts even further from the freedom of Customization. Even the Chimera Armor Core hasn't allowed players to access to a Female Voice.
I could go on and on, but one at a time here.
I had no idea about that! Thanks for the input, I'll have to check that out!
I would also add that we can’t have multiple chest/helmet attachments equipped at once even tho many don’t clip/interfere with one another and Reach had this feature on practically every helmet. Spartan Dinh from the MP cinematics can be seen having the Machete and his signature fanged red chest plate, and we should be able to as well.
Yea I've been hearing a lot of people saying this for quite some time now, it probably comes down to it being less profitable for 343 (even though realistically, all the store BS is really pushed by the execs at Microsoft/Xbox)
Yes. Items should be individual and there should be bundles. Ive been saying it since launch. I actually thought this video was gonna be about how they need to update old equipment to match the color of the coatings lol
not a bad suggestion!
One sad thing is that event items won't return so they are lost, it would be cool if they added like a separate legacy events or smth like that so that returning players can get them too
I remember being lied to... my friend told me that depending on where you have your knife determine your assassination 😅
Yo! That would actually be awesome! Or maybe depending on the knife it would use it for a unique assassination? That would be SICK!
@@SG_Exel yeah! Exactly. Honestly though, I hate that the knife is an armour attachment
@@Ramazvous I completely agree, but I'm assuming that's the only way they could get it to work sadly. Maybe not, who knows?
So glad to finally see someone else who sees that infinite's bundles are about the same price as literally every other free to play live service game like it. You also hit the nail right on the head with the real issue.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I put a lot of thought into the video through the whole creation process!
@@SG_Exel No problem! Always great to see halo fans who don’t blindly hate infinite because 343 = bad but instead try to figure out what is actually bad about it.
@@EbagStudios 343 made a great game, they're just not quite used to live service yet! I love halo, and I will be sticking with it until the games stop being made! (unless they totally destroy its identity)
Some Items can be bought outside of bundles but 100% agree with you here
id spend way more if it was the way you've described(buying singular items)
There are other problems with the customization options like we should be able to put more than 1 attachment on helmets and chest if possible.
I really hope we get a gen 2 armor core someday🤞🏼🤞🏼
I would kill for that! I want my Halo 5 armor back asap!
That paired with like making some credits when losing or wining a match might be a perfect fix. 10 credits if you lose and 20 if win.
Been wanting a rocket league/Apex style match to match randomization setting in Halo. All the free stuff we unlock but you have to go and click it every time you wanna use it vs having 5 items favorited and having them cycle.
3:30 "Halo 5 has my favorite armor sets" HAHAAAAAHAAAAAA
Heavily agree. There are about 5 things in the shop id buy individually
I really do wish that they let you individual things instead of a whole bundle. But they’re too greedy to make that change though.
I'm hoping we can fix that!😁
Not only do chest peices cover up the emblems making them useless, the old ones need to be color coated to each armor core instead of being grey.
There’s one more problem
There are not playable elites
I will be covering that soon!
Ngl when i saw the thumbnail i had assumed it was assassinations, which isn't also a bad to have back. But i do agree that the shop should atleast allow us get that helmet, chest, shoulder pads, etc separately.
I also think that we should atleast earn credits in game as well, cause everyone probably at this point has already finished the battlepass for season 5 and ofc not having to buy credits whenever that bundle is in the 2000s. Atleast have another way is all I'm saying that isn't just to buy or go through that battle pass thats already finished.
I WILL be doing a video about assassinations coming back! It is on the schedule trust me, they are one of my favorite features of the game and I will be talking about it mark my words!
Still no playable Elites. Some people won't ever touch these games again unless they come back. Like me.
Still no dual-wielding.
Still plagued with in game stores, passes, and terrible progression.
Still no real freedom of customization. Instead locked to pre-made color patterns and Emblems, as well as armor options still being tied to the moronic "core" system.
Why not have a Spartan or Elite, then make them fully customizable like every other Halo game before Halo 5? Oh wait... greed
There's still many more problems
When you finished your sentence at 2:44 - 2:51 I said out loud "Damnit, He's right!"
I was hoping he would say that the armor emblem always gets covered but he is 100% right
That is also a very annoying issue, I agree.
THIS!!!!! This is what I’ve been talking about since launch! I want to be able to buy visor colors and helmets etc. but I don’t want a shoulder pad and armor effect along with it that I’ll never use. Also I don’t understand why there’s no operator helmet at all that has always been my go to helmet back since reach
I'd have to spend 46 bucks to have my ideal spartan which sucks.
I'd buy coatings all the time, but I'm not paying $8 for one color, when colors are becoming cross-core more and more.
Fomo bundles and the lack of modular classic emblems and coating color customization are my big issues.
Well the reason 343 has these Bundles is because players buy them. As you said they probably would have more transactions overall if they implemented your better system, but the total value would realistically be less than they currently have with their sales.
I know people who bought 10-20€ bundles because of one Helmet or Weapon Addon, so we see that people still buy bundles even if annoyed
Im against paying for armor, BUT if they had full cross core and items separately purchasable, I WOULD spend $2 on the samurai sword utility, and a few coatings that catch my eye
Would love to see new chest pieces that replaced your chest instead of attaching over it, similar to halo 3 instead of halo reach, just like you can replace your whole shoulder you should be able to replace your chest armor with something else allowing for more unique shapes of armor that don't look too bulky
Agreed. Id love to buy single things
Everything needs to be cross core compatible plain and simple.
Im pretry sure you can purchase some stuff individually, but for some dumb reason you have to go to the customize option, select the helmet yo havent bought, then it says “go to shop” and it lets you but it individually but this doesnt work for everythig theyve ever released only some stuff
Close! The knife on my chest that is circled in the thumbnail is something that I bought for 500 credits. It was only the knife that it came with and a couple of emblems and stickers. So technically it was still a bundle, I would have rather just bought the knife set for like 200 credits, you know what I mean? I never use the emblems anyway.
ive been saying this forever, I would actually drop 3$ for a helmet every couple weeks, or 2$ for a colour combo. I am not buying anything though because the bundle that comes with the helmet I want has items I do not want, and I cant justify dropping 20$ knowing Ill only use the helmet.
I completely agree. whilst most people are angry at 343 for the shop even being there, I personally feel as that it's fine as halo infinite's multiplayer is a free live service, and so it's completely justified that it exists. I personally feel the issue is exactly as you state in this vid and your examples show how the pricing is not the issue.
Bundles( ‘best value’ )
Build a bundle (slightly more expensive)
Single items (reasonable but worst value)
As much as I hate microtransactions this imo is the best way to do it for both sides, overall prices would need to be lowered and more players buying single items amounts to more profit over time
Finally another player wearing the halo 4 & 5 scout helm, I love it
I have a 3D printed model of that helmet that I made with my own 3d printer at my house. And I'm painting its original halo 5 pattern on it. I. Love. My. Halo 5. Scout. Helmet. It's not called Celox, I don't care what 343 tries to change it to. It's called SCOUT. And it is mine.
This is the exact point I've been trying to make for months! THANK YOU. 😂
You're so welcome! lol
I fear the day they finally add assassinations back into the game. Another customization slot that you can't earn... Wonder how much those will go for each...
I have the same problem with the store. I hope 343 sees this.
My only problem is the lack of player collision but sadly I’m pretty confident they’re never going to fix it.
Why do you think that?
@@SG_Exel Why do I think that’s a problem or why do I think it won’t get fixed?
Something I don't like is if I wanna have the Flame shoulder's with the Flame helmet I can't and I dislike that, allow each armor piece to have a Effect its really not that hard to code in (seriously I've done it in my personal game, which I'm still working on and hope to have out sometime soon but I'm not rushing as I'd prefer to release a polished game instead of a rushed one)
Not a solution but some customisation can be brought when viewing in the armour hall
Yes you are correct but you are still forced to buy the whole bundle
As somebody that plays this in a 3rd World country, if i even feel hesitant to buy a battle pass for $10 each, i'm NO way spending more than that for an armor set when i just want the helmet or the shoulders. Also, the coatings are MAD expensive, wanna buy a rare coating? well, pay almost the price of a BP, wanna cool helmet attachment? SAME THING!
Honestly, the shop is sooooo much FOMO for me, and i really would to see changes for coatings and individual pieces of equipment.
-Coatings should be cheaper
-You should be able to buy any piece separetely
-I think SOME bundles like the Flood one that costs 2800 credits is just INSANE, therefore, lower the prices of some of them.
More bang for buck, 343, and you will profit a whooooole lot more!
I think another problem is that a lot of stuff either won't be available ever again, or it won't be available again until a certain time period. I stopped playing a week after launch, everyone should know why, and I just came back to find armors I would love to either earn or pay for, but I can't because it was a timed challenge or bundle last year
I completely agree, if they're gonna charge for items in a shop then they should definitely keep them out permanently.
I ABSOLUTELY 1000% agree! thanks for bringing this up.
I'd even be happy if for example they took a ten dollar bundle with ten things but you could sell one individual thing for 1.50 or 2 dollars so 343 made more money but you can still buy individual things
You can actually get individual pieces, but im not sure if it works all the time. If it was previously in the item shop and you see it in the armour hall, simply click on more info and go to the store. You’d be able to buy them separately.
You are both right and wrong. Yes, you can buy anything you want from the armor hall, but you are also required to buy everything that was in the bundle when it was released.
Two things I want more then removing bundles, let me buy vaulted stuff, AND let me buy older event passes so I can earn or buy the content I missed for XY or Z, they are doing it this seaosn but what about past seasons? I missed JFO and shoulder pads Becuase I was in Vermont for the week
I'd love to be able to purchase individual pieces. Hope 343i decides to do that in the future. Great video, mate. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Y'all forgetting we still can't choose our own custom colors. Coatings are cool but bloody hell, let me select a primary and secondary color by default and then allow us to use coatings for special camos/patterns and what not!
Sadly I don't think we'll ever get that option again. Hopefully the next video I'm making will provide a better solution!
We need better customization for chest pieces. Them being color locked to some gray-scale that was pre-determined ruins about 75% of the options we have
Only being able to put more then one attachment on your helmet
Still need Red VS Blue and classic yellow shields options
Yeah, it has a problem. It’s one I covered; there’s not enough good Big Team Battle maps. They need to not keep us waiting.
I’ve bought stuff but I know I’d be happy 100% of my purchases if the system worked this way.
Once sold in shop, the second half of the season with a big update they should have a single item purchase.
I REALLY hope they just charge me the $60 next game instead of going free to play this whole paying for armor and this and that blows.
Bundles should stay and aren’t or ever were an issue. Bundle prices are an issue because they were actually affordable for what was in the bundle. Sky Marshall was around 800 credits it’s now 1,800 credits. Mind you it has 3 items in it yet they raised the price by 10 dollars. While you should be able to buy items individually bundles offer more. Bundles that offer 20+ items make 100% sense why they’re 2000 credits
You tricked me, I thought this was about assassinations😢. Which we need for the most for player expression. To make my Spartan mine.
Can we also mention how even though we've got cross-core coatings now, the store bundles still sell us a coating for each individual core? Why hasn't that changed yet?
The problem is that there's an "economy" surrounding it at all. The fact you need to pay for anything besides the game is disgusting. Our standards keep slipping and that's why these business practices keep getting greasier.
While I do agree with you, 343 has made the choice and I don't think they're going to change their mind about it. I would make a video covering that exact topic, but honestly I don't have enough influence for what I say to matter. But maybe they wont lock everything in the game behind a pay wall next time! We can always hope!
Bro you used to have to put in a quarter every time you wanted to respawn 💀
@@Zacvh1wow true 😂
Remember mappacks? I'd rather optional cosmetics than that any day.
Free multiplayer where I don’t have to pay for map packs, and where 10 dollars gets you season 2-whenever-they-stop for free. Cross-core is coolio yo, but thats the biggest problem with the game aside from SBMM and the custom games browser.
i think it would just be a lot better if every armour part that you can buy can just be bought by its self and just remove the shop
and you would get the parts the same place you equip them
True. I once bought in the store and it was a emblem bundle of 2 for 200 credits. I am not going in there and spend 40 bucks for 2 items I want.
I think Valorant does this the best way (despite their prices being god awful) they at least let you purchase separately at a slight markup compared to buying the whole bundle for a discount
You had me panicking in the first half lol
It would make them so much more money because more people will buy single peaces than people will buy the whole thing
personally, im not going to buy a bundle if i don't think 50% of the bundle at least its worth it
I completely agree!
It's got more than one last problem for example no campaign content
I also don’t think it’s fair to put Reach armor behind a pay wall or timed events. Just put the rest of those items in another battle pass or something.
THIS. This is a well done video about this topic.
Halo infinite still has a lot of problems. Season 5 got me back for awhile though since season 2
I completely agree, I made this topic my first one to cover because it seems relevant enough to get traction and it also seems like one of the easier problems to solve for sure!
The fact that people are ok with paying $20 for skins is insane to me.
I guess it depends on the person, but I hate it fr.
Can't forget since Halo is a FPS and you only get to enjoy seeing your customization and $$ when you're in the menu, in a vehicle/using a turret, or dead in game.
Now, I’m still not a fan of the pricing of the items (that’s just me not liking current micro transactions prices as a whole),
But, I know it won’t change (until they find a more profitable method).
So, a way to improve this, why not have each parts purchasable individually but, make the bundle a ‘discounted’ price. If you want to buy just the one piece, you can. But, if you want most of the whole set, get the bundle.
Miss earning armor with credits or achievements. Felt so much better then spending my hard worked for money on a silly little in game aesthetic.