This scene honestly just shows how hurt John is after Cortana. Never again is he gonna turn a blind eye when something starts to go wrong with his AI companion. Last time he did that, it almost destroyed life as they know it.
For those who don´t know Red Flag It was the operation that was supposed to end the war with the Covenant but due to the fall of Reach and the death of almost 70% of the Spatans-II, the operation was never carried out. And Samuel-034 was the first Spartan to fall in combat and he was John's best friend so much that the Chief himself considered him a brother
Except she’s a copy of Cortana that never met John. Cortana became the threat she was because she met John. Had she not met John then nothing that happened would’ve. She started facing rampancy after Halo CE. It was minor amounts but the hook First Strike heavily implies it because of the Halo data. Chief was scared that he would trust another AI in general. Chief missed Cortana and he felt like he failed her.
The fact the the code is "034 Samuel" is an amazing detail. Cortana killed alot of Spartans. Lives wasted rather than spent, that was a hard lesson for Chief!
@@AngeMaru486 there was actually a book about this, the spartans were able to evacuate before the station was destroyed. Buck was there on it at the time, so leonidas really only blew up the station itself iirc
@@austinfisher1962 it happened in a book, and buck and the rest of alpha team were able to evacuate everyone before leonidas could do it, meaning she DIDN'T actually kill them all, she only managed to destroy the facility.
My hat is off to the writers, this shows the chief did not want to delete the weapon at all greatly. For those who don’t know, Samual-034 was Chief’s best friend in the Spartan II program, during the Spartans first combat against the covenant, Chief, Sam, and Kelly boarded a covenant ship and rigged it to blow. Sam had gotten hit, and his suits seal was messed up so he couldn’t escape into space with the others. Someone also had to stay behind to make sure the sabotage they set would work. John was devastated but knew that to complete the mission, he had to sacrifice the life of his best friend. To make the deletion codes a reminder of this shows that chief still has that dedication to his duty, even when deep down he wishes he could be the one to sacrifice instead of his friends.
@@ItsTheGoodStuff28 they were in the animated fall of reach but not in the original book. Only chief, Kelly, and Sam made it to the ship as the others who were using missiles off a pelican missed. It also fits better as Kelly and Sam were the first to team up with John on the first day of training
Weapon was right to be angry, John was right to be cautious, neither is wrong The Weapon wanted to be deleted, it was John who denied her deletion and formed in her the desire to keep living, of course she would see this as a betrayal John’s failure with Cortana resulted in so much death and destruction, of course he wouldn’t risk it again (anytime soon)
That’s what I’m worried about, we got a reboot but I don’t want to hear the same Cortana rampancy story over the next 20 years, we need to know this one won’t go rampant, we want to trust her…
That's called excellent writing. I'm not sure how much input Joseph Staten had on this. But the callback to Sam alone feels like something of his doing.
yah after playing this moment in the campaign, my roommate and I asked each other "What's her deal? Doesn't she already understand the threats that Master Chief had to face with Cortana?" And then later in the campaign she acknowledges how she understands his position now. Honestly the weight of this scene didn't hit at all, especially because we've spent barely any time with her.
@@kirkydaturkeyshe doesn’t know every detail of Cortana at this point, they made it that way so she wouldn’t side with her or end up being just like her when they need her to do stay on mission
Them playing the "We were supposed to protect each other... and we did" RIGHT before Chief attempts possibly the greatest betrayal of a friend in his life... god damn, that was an emotional gutpunch, and having Sam's number and name be the passcode made it hit even harder as a lore fan.
@@arunpandian294 Samuel-034 was a founding member of Blue Team alongside John and Kelly. He was like a brother to them, and would be the first Spartan killed in action after his Mjolnir was breached during their first confrontation with the Covenant.
Why is every bitch on here calling it a "gutpunch" as if chief was wrong to do what he did? He clearly wants to avoid the whole Cortana thing again so he was 100% RIGHT to do what he did
@@insertnamehere2746 That's the beauty of this scene tho, he is 100% totally in the right to do this, but it doesn't FEEL right, he is TOTALLY justified but you can't help but feel like he is betraying Weapon.
@@insertnamehere2746 i mean beyond debating right or wrong it’s a gutpunch because trying to delete the weapon is a fundamentally emotional narrative moment? like it’s a hinge in the narrative, a transition in their relationship that’s meant to effect the player?
Both he and Jen Taylor deserve awards for their performances here, especially Taylor. This is her best performance since Halo 4, especially with having to juggle Halsey, Cortana, and the Weapon all at once.
it was a perfect delivery, Samuel was his brother practically, and despite he knowing his mission, he did not wanted to resort to delete her, but still did it as he knew what happened to cortana
Man I JUST got to this part last night and DAMN it hit hard. Like... John is finally showing some humanity. Some heart. And the weight with which you can hear him speak the deletion passcodes... Especially when he gets to "Samuel."
Especially when you look at how long it takes between the "Required" prompt and the actual phrase, considering it was only a second or two for the first two locks. It takes John five FULL SECONDS before he's even able to say it, like his finger hovering over a trigger. And by the time he says it, the tone of his voice is completely different and audibly cracking.
Many will think John is a dickhead in this moment but that is far from the truth. John was right to try this, his experience with cortana is like PTSD to him, he was fearful that the weapon would end up being corrupted somehow by the harbinger and thus going rogue and causing universal destruction just like cortana. Don't get me wrong, the weapon is innocent, if anyone is to blame its cortana, because of how she went rogue it meant that John was losing trust in A.I companions so even though the weapon was innocent it didn't matter to John, he just couldn't risk another A.I becoming a threat to the galaxy, especially an A.I that is a copy of cortana If anything this scene is a lesson to both John and the player. We were with cortana every step of the way through each halo game and throughout it she was our companion, our partner, our friend, cortana was the one we trusted the most and adapted to until we lost her in halo 4, thats when we broke. Then halo 5 came and when we thought she was coming back she ended up becoming a monster and thus we lost trust in A.I companions (Not everyone will have lost trust but even so this still affects the player in many ways) after that. This is literally the player and John.
Spoilers to those who haven’t played Infinite yet By the end, Cortana redeemed herself by killings herself and Atriox when she thought that John had been killed.
@@someone-pz4dg it doesn’t really matter because she’s gone now. Same kinda situation with darth Vader, doesn’t matter because the character already made the ultimate sacrifice, they are past judgement mattering.
@@afroartist1086 while I love the story of Halo 4, god weapon balance, ammo issues, campaign designs...etc all hampered it. Story was good but could have gone with a mission or 2 more for exposition sake, cuz the lore dump by the Librarian was well, I was fine with it but a lot of my friends said it was too much of an info dump
I see a lot of people talking about Samuel-034 but I think the Operation: Red Flag reference flew over a lot of people’s heads. Red Flag was an operation towards the beginning of the war with the intent of sending the majority of Spartan-IIs to assassinate the Covenant leader and end the war early, but the objective changed when the Covenant found Reach and began its campaign to destroy the planet. Props to the writers for both giving some tribute to Sam as well as Red Flag which is a big part of Halo’s lore.
Actually it was towards the end, it was going to preceed reaches invasion, but since reach was hit, it was called off. The covie war wasnt a short one. It was a 30 year war
@@zeus28frenzy they actually planned on using reach for Red Flag ironically. The invasion of reach that we see in Halo Reach was happening when Chief and Cortana first met. The reason it got cancelled is because so many S2s were on reach and only Chief made it back to the Autumn.
@@SuperTheast Red flag was an operation to find high charity. The covenant capital. Break in and fight their way to a hierarch and kidnap him. Or all three. Which would (In theroy) Bring a swift end to the war and open up talks of negotiations. But. When it was discovered reach had been found by the covenant. The operation was canceled. And all spartan 2 teams re-deployed to reachs surface while one team stayed in orbit
@@zeus28frenzy if you go further in depth they actually wanted to use reach for Red Flag. The briefing for Red Flag was held during the events of Halo Reach and they decided to not tell the S2. They knew that hierarchs were likely to be at the site of a major important battle so they decided on Reach at that point. Unfortunately it didn’t end up happening due to the ground mission that you mentioned since as far as Chief knew he was the last remaining S2 at that point. If you read Halsey’s backstory it’ll specifically mention it. It’s just that Fall of Reach came out well before Reach so things had to be retconned
@@SuperTheast Linda made it to the Autumn too, but she was clinically dead and placed in a cryo pod to be revived at a later date. You can actually find a computer screen showing her status during The Maw on the Anniversary graphics in CE. She got revived during the First Strike novel.
This right here is what it looks like to come out of a bad break up. Man is so scarred he wasn't even going to take the chance for even a moment. You can even tell when he starts talking about her breaking protocol. Any semblance of going down a similar path to Cortona and he's ready to do what he feels he should have done back then. The regret and guilt is just eating at him constantly.
On the side (joke) she did worse then the forest fire in Australia and blew up the planet of the apes Atriox attacked the infinity to get back at her reminding her of what she said about “choices and actions having consequences!” (Bringing me back to the memory’s of the moral to farcry 4)
She kept tallkng about the beauty in the power that the ring holds, which made John tilt his head a few times. I don't blame him. When she finds out what she is, she doesn't blame him either.
Yea it’s just that the Weapon is new to everything, what she finds fascinating, John already knows it’s dangerous. Can’t blame either of them like you said
Literally almost cried when I learned that Samuel was the password…. It really hit me different because a lot of people will say “Samuel’s death hit the master chief the hardest, and he then made a promise to never lose another soldier under his command,” this is true and all but just think of the gravity of this whole thing. Samuel’s death was the moment John became the Master Chief, everything he did was in honor of Samuel’s sacrifice. It’s not just for Blue team but for humanity, it paved a road for chief to sacrifice himself in humanity’s dire needs in order to save every soul he can. This, in addition to Cortana being his closest friend next to Blue Team, it really hits you in the feels because when Chief actually shows an ounce humanity, it really becomes something special.
It's not really a betrayal, she even wanted to get deleted when found out she was supposed to. But I can't blame Chief either, image building that same bond with an AI that's supposed to be an exact copy of Cortana and watching her potentially become the same threat and losing her all over again. Chief doesn't want to be alone but he knows it's better than losing someone he loves.
@@jihigh482 What does shonen have to do with this at all? Chief feels extreme guilt about Cortana and was scared that the Weapon would end up the same way. He wasn't even going to give a chance of that happening. He *did* care about Cortana though, and he does care about Weapon- but Chief wasn't about to risk that chance.
I don't think so he was trying to prevent another Cortana incident he put his trust in an AI for years and then she betrayed him, humanity and killed trillions of people and aliens in the name of peace chief let his emotions take control of him before and he won't let it happen again.
You can’t honestly blame the chief for his action he had reason to do what he did and it was a very damn good reason. Sure what he did may seem wrong and a dick move but ever since Cortana had gone haywire chief didn’t want to have a AI like Cortana to possibly end up like her.
People keep forgetting that the Weapon was deliberately deprived of all kinds of important information. She did not even know why she was sent to lock down Cortana in the first place...or even that she was a copy of her, not until she figured it out for herself. The UNSC went out of their way to make her as naive and even childlike as possible, so she wouldn't think too hard on what she was doing. It's positively Machiavellian. When she found out the truth, she immediately accepted death rather than being faced with the prospect of becoming like Cortana. No, it wasn't deserved, but it's equally depressing that the Chief handled the situation so poorly. For someone as resourceful and tactically-astute as he is, his social skills are nearly nonexistent, a haunting, lasting reminder of the human cost of the Spartan-II program. Giving the Weapon even a little context, not even telling her that the deletion protocol existed, but simply letting her know what Cortana did, maybe what she was? It might've made her at least understand his actions. She'd still view it as a betrayal, but AIs in Halo's lore have historically known when they needed to be deleted for the greater good.
He’s not heartless, he’s just not willing take any chance with another AI companion. /spoilers At the end he learned to trust her and even let her give herself a name too.
@@Ntwadumela89 he said that he doesn’t trust her but he wants to. She’s an exact copy of cortana and he didn’t want to risk another galaxy wide threat. In the end he does decide to trust her and give her a chance.
@@timur5241 halo infinite is very open world comparing itself to doom eternal though. But id like to see a spartan go ragemod (spartan rage hehe) and do glory kills on grunts
@@kgbcommitteeforstatesecuri3315 yeah, also weapon upgrades/modes, movement & larger variation of enemies (doom has way more enemy types than all of halo games combined)
Luckily I finished the campaign just before I got spoiled. And I love it. The Weapon (Cortana 2.0) is so cute after all I've been through with her, I'd welcome her to the team.
Almost put a tear to my eye hearing Master Chief say, "Samuel." When he said "Red Flag" I thought the writers put a joke in, like when you're on a new date but the date does or shows something terrible in being a new partner which being coined as "red flag" but it seems to refer to a Campaign operation that never happened due to the fall of Reach.
The fact that the code is Redflag 034 Samuel made me scream. All these years and I don't think John will ever forgive himself nor will he forget about his best friend. I wish we had more time with him because he was a cool guy. And Red Flag was the mission that was supposed to be the biggest of them all in regards to Spartans. Was the very reason why he was given Cortana. But it all went to hell when reach came under attack.
John has somewhat forgiven himself over Samuel. He hasn’t forgotten but he realized the lesson Samuel taught him. And ironically Red Flag was going to end up happening at Reach. The events of Halo Reach actually take place during the same time period that Chief received Cortana
I wouldn't say that she's really a copy, more of a younger sister. She was created from Halsey's cloned brains the same way that Cortana was, the audio logs confirm it. It ties into the events of Shadows of Reach. There was another AI like that, Cortana's "older sister" Kalmiya or something like that.
Don’t know if anyone knows this but Steve Downes read the Fall of Reach and was engrossed with Samuel’s death so much it would impact this performance.
Besides his talk with the Pilot this is the most human Chief has ever been. Despite him not wanting to show much emotion, you can see the struggle he has. He’d rather delete her than risk going through what he did with the original Cortana all over again.
I actually love the fact that the final passcode was "Samuel". Besides being a gut punch reference, it's like a reminder to Chief one last time going "the decision you are about to make is going to take someone's life, so make sure it's spent and not wasted". The extended pause he takes before he says the name tells the player that he knows that, too.
Red Flag: The operation during the fall of reach novel to capture a high value prophet to negotiate a cease fire with the covenant. It never began because Reach was attacked. 034: Samuel's Spartan number Samuel: The first spartan to die to the Covenant. Sacrificed his life on the first mission so the Chief and Blue team could escape. (Chief and Kelly in book)(Chief, Kelly, Linda, & Fred in the mini series). You can also hear Samuel's name called out "For Samuel" if you play Halo Wars. The spartans will call it out during a fight.
They actually had planned for Red Flag to occur at Reach. The reason it never happened is because the required amount of S2s was 20-25 and that number was down to 1 surviving based off what Chief knew.
"Sam was my friend. He was my brother. He was our brother. Last time we were here, I asked Sam to trust me to take us home. To follow me. Will you trust me now? Will you follow me?"
The fact that the code for the deletion process is Samuel 034 seriously gives me the chills :( The emotion in Downes' voice as he tried to rush saying his name to try to avoid the pain of that memory.
I like that they even wrote it that way. She trying to fill the void left in Chief while Chief is shutting her out and keeping to himself for the first half.
@@JH50166 well then RUclips is busted, because when I made my initial comment, it was labeled as being posted two days ago. So you can still pound sand 🤙
"I blame myself for the universe being thrown into peril. Will I kill my best friend in order to save the universe from destruction? Back then..no...but now? It is my Duty to protect Humanity....whatever the cost" - Master Chief, John 117 War is all he knows. He's won some battles, he's lost some battles. Whether he knows it or not, he is the Pinnacle of humanity, defying the inevitable and the impossible, but without guidance (The AI) he is as lost as a 14 year old marine on a planet full of deadly aliens.
What’s the point of these programmed contingency plans if they could just disable the the deletion anyway chief was lucky he didn’t create a psycho cortana 2.0 lol it was pretty funny how bitchy she was to him after that
Thats most likely the reason only two smart ai were ever created (cortana and the weapon) because if they tried their power would be endless and if you know the story of the forerunners history is just repeating itself
@@see_me_hori1807 There are thousands of Smart AI's. The books go over them a bit. Cortana was special because she was an AI of Halsey. And Halsey gave her access to things the other AI's didn't have. Such as secretly giving her all the state of the art infiltration software from ONI.(I believe it's described in The Halo; Fall of Reach book) Unlike the other Smart AI who had to make due with the information they were given. Cortana is just able to break into anything, be it any UNSC database, ONI, Covenant, or forerunner technology. I assume "The Weapon" was given these Infiltration softwares as well. Cortana learned for a Covenant AI on how to copy herself. But each copy became more fragmented and degerated. And "The Weapon" is nothing like how Cortana copies work in the book. Even if she didn't have cortana's memories, she would still have the same sassy, spunk, sarcastic attitude cortana had. I mean if her "snapping" was something that carried over, her attitude, and her "hands of her hips sassy remarks" should as well. And forgetting all that, given "The Weapon" is an AI of Halsey she shouldn't be acting this shy, insecure, and weird, like she's a kid growing up. She's about the same age Cortana was during Halo CE. But alas, it's probably just 343's writing. Especially when we look at how needy and whiney the pilot is. Chief feels especially heroic, stoic, and a leader here because the people around him act like kids.
@@Matt-zq8cz I don't think this cortana is shy or weird. She is a bit child like in terms of curiousity. Other than that she is pretty confident in her abilities but wonders why chief is hestitant to use them. If anyone is insecure it's chief. You see it every time he lets her use a module. Also I really like the design for this Cortana. The whole uniform look .
@@Matt-zq8cz she does develop the same attitude, and she is 3~2 years younger than CE Cortana. Also, The Pilot is supposed to be like that to develop as a character, same for the Weapon.
I beat the game 3 days ago and felt the same way. I really hope that we get story DLC if they are gonna support infinite for 10 years. I'm on my second playthrough now because the game was so good 😆
This is important in how in emphasize John-117 in both responsibility and cautiousness. Remember when John said when he met Weapon first time after 6 months: "Something stopped your deletion, we need to find out why?". This kind of implies that John suspects Rogue-Cortana is posing as the Weapon by having the index divided to different sectors so she can gradual recompose herself. This scene shows that John wants to save Weapon, yet at the same time cannot underestimate Rogue-Cortana's revival, or possibility she is going to remember who she is, thus sets the deletion protocol in motion. I think Samuel-034 is not a direct deletion order, rather, is a safety protocol that the Neural-Locked AI will be deleted if strayed from the neural control. Think about: Spartan Samuel died when he left the 'sight' of John-117 to give them time to flee; Samuel-034 directive suggests that Weapon will be deleted if she breaks of Neural Connection Protocol when activated, which will force her to return to John-117's domain of control. In summary, if you think John 'betrays' Weapon, i think it is possible but unlikely, this man has the sense of loyalty that falling onto Earth wont even break him. John cannot take the risk to let Weapon take all control so carefree that resulted in devastation across the galaxy if this Weapon turns out to be Rogue-Cortana in disguise. And remember that Weapon is cloned from Ur-Cortana and the Weapon can essentially become Rogue if she inhabits her memory and index.
I don’t think the code necessarily had anything to do with the original Cortana coming back. It was more something that only Chief would use. Samuel-034 isn’t just because he left the sight of John. It showed John the Covenant could be defeated at great sacrifice. He made a promise that day to never forget him or what he did. The main thing pointing to that is Red Flag being the operation where almost all S2s were essentially wiped out. Outside of Blue team I think there was maybe 2-3 other teams one of which was Grey Team. John chose those phrases because they meant something to him personally and nobody else.
To anyone who thinks he's "betraying her", remember, this IS the Cole Protocol mentioned way back in the 1st game. He can't allow an AI to fall into enemy hands, lest the enemy learn the location of Earth. Not to mention weapons research, force deployments, and other information which could end the human race if the enemy knew it.
Red Flag - 034 ...... those are not just security codes. RIP to those who didn't make it beyond the point of Red Flag, and RIP to Sam, Spartan 034. John took it hard when his fellow spartans died in the Halo books. He beat himself up over many not making it past the augmentation process. They promised each other that they would succeed together. He felt like, as their leader and their brother, he had failed them. This game did such an amazing job at showing he isn't a machine, and to reference something like that from the first Eric Nylund Halo novel through a simple passcode is insane.
Well she said that she was supposed to help the Chief find Cortana and put a stop to her reign of terror and I think she found out that once she got Cortana probably the UNSC was going to delete her as well if I'm thinking straight or not
I think this was an attempt to stop her from being compromised by The Harbinger or something else. Obviously she shouldn’t have stopped her deletion, but I think Chief does it out of necessity and fear rather than just being heartless.
The whole time I just kept thinkin back to Johnson’s death and him telling chief to never let her go and how much cortana meant to him and why he’s so untrustworthy of this new ai
She went out to do that on her own with 0 communication with Chief, while breaking protocol, then acted offended when he was gonna delete her to stop her from being compromised
It was upsetting to watch this just seeing how much human emotion this AI has then cortana did at the start of the series and the fact that she sounds like a kid but I understand why he tried to do this with every thing that happened throughout the master chief saga What they should of added was the flash back of sargents last words to chief, besides I know sarge wouldn’t want this for chief to delete her
This scene honestly just shows how hurt John is after Cortana. Never again is he gonna turn a blind eye when something starts to go wrong with his AI companion. Last time he did that, it almost destroyed life as they know it.
It's a fucking emotional roller coaster, Like "Why?!?" then they start to show what exactly Cortana has been doing and it's like Ohhhhhhh Shit
It was also apart of his mission to destroy her. Which she understands later on
I still don't understand exactly what Cortana did that was so bad and why Earth didn't just join her
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@@raevemaeve4323 Yes?
For those who don´t know Red Flag It was the operation that was supposed to end the war with the Covenant but due to the fall of Reach and the death of almost 70% of the Spatans-II, the operation was never carried out.
And Samuel-034 was the first Spartan to fall in combat and he was John's best friend so much that the Chief himself considered him a brother
I loved that inclusion of Sam. When I first heard him say his code words I lost it. So awesome.
Also Samuel was a member of Blue Team.
*>Fall of Reach*
Noble 6, my beloved.
Also note that it’s stated that Samuel even outranked chief and the rest of blue team, he was truly skilled
Yes Samuel showed that the covenant can be defeated
He was scared she’d turn into cortana. SHE IS A COPY OF CORTANA. Chief didn’t want to risk another galaxy wide threat.
Yah I think whoever directed these campaign cutscenes failed to create the emotional impact they were trying for.
In Halo 4 and 5, people kept saying chief was too emotional, which is why they made him more direct in this one. Like how he was in CE.
@@MazdaRX7007 he went to soft in halo 5 which got him and blue team captured and manipulated by cortana in halo 5 so easily
Yet when at the beginning the Weapon said she needs to be deleted Chief didn't.
Except she’s a copy of Cortana that never met John. Cortana became the threat she was because she met John. Had she not met John then nothing that happened would’ve. She started facing rampancy after Halo CE. It was minor amounts but the hook First Strike heavily implies it because of the Halo data. Chief was scared that he would trust another AI in general. Chief missed Cortana and he felt like he failed her.
The fact the the code is "034 Samuel" is an amazing detail. Cortana killed alot of Spartans. Lives wasted rather than spent, that was a hard lesson for Chief!
Didn’t Cortana tell an AI loyal to the Created to blow itself and the facility it was on up because the Spartans there were told to stand against her?
@@AngeMaru486 The greatest lesson we can all learn from Chief is to never be a simp🤣
@@AngeMaru486 there was actually a book about this, the spartans were able to evacuate before the station was destroyed. Buck was there on it at the time, so leonidas really only blew up the station itself iirc
When i didnt see any spartans killed in halo 5 just locke and them almost?
@@austinfisher1962 it happened in a book, and buck and the rest of alpha team were able to evacuate everyone before leonidas could do it, meaning she DIDN'T actually kill them all, she only managed to destroy the facility.
My hat is off to the writers, this shows the chief did not want to delete the weapon at all greatly. For those who don’t know, Samual-034 was Chief’s best friend in the Spartan II program, during the Spartans first combat against the covenant, Chief, Sam, and Kelly boarded a covenant ship and rigged it to blow. Sam had gotten hit, and his suits seal was messed up so he couldn’t escape into space with the others. Someone also had to stay behind to make sure the sabotage they set would work. John was devastated but knew that to complete the mission, he had to sacrifice the life of his best friend. To make the deletion codes a reminder of this shows that chief still has that dedication to his duty, even when deep down he wishes he could be the one to sacrifice instead of his friends.
Wasn't spartan Frederic-104 and Linda-058 also onboard the covenant fleet with alongside Chief, Sam and Kelly?
@@ItsTheGoodStuff28 they were in the animated fall of reach but not in the original book. Only chief, Kelly, and Sam made it to the ship as the others who were using missiles off a pelican missed. It also fits better as Kelly and Sam were the first to team up with John on the first day of training
Ah ok, cool thanks!!
Don't forget Samuel jumped in to save Chief thereby getting shot which resulted in the vaccum breach in his armour.
Survivors guilt hits differently, when you see so many die instead of you. You start to wish it was you instead.
Master chief is the real one here
Can someone make a meme when Chief says, "We do it together" then immediately cuts to him trying to delete her lol
😆....👍
Similar to,
“THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!”
To
“Where have you been! It has been six months!”
LMAOO
Weapon was right to be angry, John was right to be cautious, neither is wrong
The Weapon wanted to be deleted, it was John who denied her deletion and formed in her the desire to keep living, of course she would see this as a betrayal
John’s failure with Cortana resulted in so much death and destruction, of course he wouldn’t risk it again (anytime soon)
Thanks for the input antagonist from ratatouille.
That’s what I’m worried about, we got a reboot but I don’t want to hear the same Cortana rampancy story over the next 20 years, we need to know this one won’t go rampant, we want to trust her…
@@Zachery_ I think if anything, this one would prevent that by telling John to delete her
@@Zachery_ You'll literally never get such an absurd guarantee. What the heck?
That's called excellent writing.
I'm not sure how much input Joseph Staten had on this. But the callback to Sam alone feels like something of his doing.
Good to know John still thinks of Samuel after all those years!
;_;7
The sadness in Johns voice really gets me
good to know? more like, scary to know
Rip Sam
For him since he’s in cryo constantly was relatively recent
he trusted Cortana with his life... To this day he still broken by her betrayal... Can't blame the dude...
yah after playing this moment in the campaign, my roommate and I asked each other "What's her deal? Doesn't she already understand the threats that Master Chief had to face with Cortana?" And then later in the campaign she acknowledges how she understands his position now. Honestly the weight of this scene didn't hit at all, especially because we've spent barely any time with her.
@@kirkydaturkeyshe doesn’t know every detail of Cortana at this point, they made it that way so she wouldn’t side with her or end up being just like her when they need her to do stay on mission
Them playing the "We were supposed to protect each other... and we did" RIGHT before Chief attempts possibly the greatest betrayal of a friend in his life... god damn, that was an emotional gutpunch, and having Sam's number and name be the passcode made it hit even harder as a lore fan.
Uhm,... Who is Samuel?? 034.. A spartan??
@@arunpandian294 Samuel-034 was a founding member of Blue Team alongside John and Kelly. He was like a brother to them, and would be the first Spartan killed in action after his Mjolnir was breached during their first confrontation with the Covenant.
Why is every bitch on here calling it a "gutpunch" as if chief was wrong to do what he did? He clearly wants to avoid the whole Cortana thing again so he was 100% RIGHT to do what he did
@@insertnamehere2746 That's the beauty of this scene tho, he is 100% totally in the right to do this, but it doesn't FEEL right, he is TOTALLY justified but you can't help but feel like he is betraying Weapon.
@@insertnamehere2746 i mean beyond debating right or wrong it’s a gutpunch because trying to delete the weapon is a fundamentally emotional narrative moment? like it’s a hinge in the narrative, a transition in their relationship that’s meant to effect the player?
Oh my god you can just hear the pain in his voice when he says "Samuel". What an incredible performance by Downes.
Both he and Jen Taylor deserve awards for their performances here, especially Taylor. This is her best performance since Halo 4, especially with having to juggle Halsey, Cortana, and the Weapon all at once.
@@disownership Very true. She did an impeccable job.
I'll never be the same after hearing him say Samuel
it was a perfect delivery, Samuel was his brother practically, and despite he knowing his mission, he did not wanted to resort to delete her, but still did it as he knew what happened to cortana
Man I JUST got to this part last night and DAMN it hit hard. Like... John is finally showing some humanity. Some heart. And the weight with which you can hear him speak the deletion passcodes... Especially when he gets to "Samuel."
Especially when you look at how long it takes between the "Required" prompt and the actual phrase, considering it was only a second or two for the first two locks. It takes John five FULL SECONDS before he's even able to say it, like his finger hovering over a trigger. And by the time he says it, the tone of his voice is completely different and audibly cracking.
Many will think John is a dickhead in this moment but that is far from the truth.
John was right to try this, his experience with cortana is like PTSD to him, he was fearful that the weapon would end up being corrupted somehow by the harbinger and thus going rogue and causing universal destruction just like cortana.
Don't get me wrong, the weapon is innocent, if anyone is to blame its cortana, because of how she went rogue it meant that John was losing trust in A.I companions so even though the weapon was innocent it didn't matter to John, he just couldn't risk another A.I becoming a threat to the galaxy, especially an A.I that is a copy of cortana
If anything this scene is a lesson to both John and the player.
We were with cortana every step of the way through each halo game and throughout it she was our companion, our partner, our friend, cortana was the one we trusted the most and adapted to until we lost her in halo 4, thats when we broke.
Then halo 5 came and when we thought she was coming back she ended up becoming a monster and thus we lost trust in A.I companions (Not everyone will have lost trust but even so this still affects the player in many ways) after that.
This is literally the player and John.
Spoilers to those who haven’t played Infinite yet
By the end, Cortana redeemed herself by killings herself and Atriox when she thought that John had been killed.
@@littleaqua32 I wouldn't say redeemed, because she caused the deaths of millions. You can't just kill o e dude and undo all that
@@someone-pz4dg it doesn’t really matter because she’s gone now. Same kinda situation with darth Vader, doesn’t matter because the character already made the ultimate sacrifice, they are past judgement mattering.
@@littleaqua32 Spoilers.
we dont know if Atriox died.
Cause, i just finished it on legendary and in the bonus scene, atriox is alive and well.
@@TouchthisiProduction the monke is chilling
2:24 2:34
Sam was my friend… he was my brother. Sam showed us that the covenant were not invincible, they could be beaten. But at a high cost…
No, no, no. My boi chief knows the consequence of simping waifus.
He aint simping for another Head Vtuber
...
That's his kid.
Not his waifu. His waifu is dead
this is the first time we've got some of johns character in the games and I love it
You clearly haven’t played the masterpiece Halo 4
@@JeraldOsborn 4 wasn't as great to me but yea it was in there to
@@JeraldOsborn 4 & 5 wasn't that great either, story/writing went downhill since bungie left
@@JKL_1999 Halo 4 was pretty amazing I terms of story, it just sucked in terms of every other category.
@@afroartist1086 while I love the story of Halo 4, god weapon balance, ammo issues, campaign designs...etc all hampered it. Story was good but could have gone with a mission or 2 more for exposition sake, cuz the lore dump by the Librarian was well, I was fine with it but a lot of my friends said it was too much of an info dump
I see a lot of people talking about Samuel-034 but I think the Operation: Red Flag reference flew over a lot of people’s heads. Red Flag was an operation towards the beginning of the war with the intent of sending the majority of Spartan-IIs to assassinate the Covenant leader and end the war early, but the objective changed when the Covenant found Reach and began its campaign to destroy the planet. Props to the writers for both giving some tribute to Sam as well as Red Flag which is a big part of Halo’s lore.
Actually it was towards the end, it was going to preceed reaches invasion, but since reach was hit, it was called off. The covie war wasnt a short one. It was a 30 year war
@@zeus28frenzy they actually planned on using reach for Red Flag ironically. The invasion of reach that we see in Halo Reach was happening when Chief and Cortana first met. The reason it got cancelled is because so many S2s were on reach and only Chief made it back to the Autumn.
@@SuperTheast Red flag was an operation to find high charity. The covenant capital. Break in and fight their way to a hierarch and kidnap him. Or all three. Which would (In theroy) Bring a swift end to the war and open up talks of negotiations. But. When it was discovered reach had been found by the covenant. The operation was canceled. And all spartan 2 teams re-deployed to reachs surface while one team stayed in orbit
@@zeus28frenzy if you go further in depth they actually wanted to use reach for Red Flag. The briefing for Red Flag was held during the events of Halo Reach and they decided to not tell the S2. They knew that hierarchs were likely to be at the site of a major important battle so they decided on Reach at that point. Unfortunately it didn’t end up happening due to the ground mission that you mentioned since as far as Chief knew he was the last remaining S2 at that point. If you read Halsey’s backstory it’ll specifically mention it. It’s just that Fall of Reach came out well before Reach so things had to be retconned
@@SuperTheast Linda made it to the Autumn too, but she was clinically dead and placed in a cryo pod to be revived at a later date. You can actually find a computer screen showing her status during The Maw on the Anniversary graphics in CE. She got revived during the First Strike novel.
This right here is what it looks like to come out of a bad break up. Man is so scarred he wasn't even going to take the chance for even a moment. You can even tell when he starts talking about her breaking protocol. Any semblance of going down a similar path to Cortona and he's ready to do what he feels he should have done back then. The regret and guilt is just eating at him constantly.
when she says "whats wrong with you" and the sass of "theres your grav lift" is just perfect i prefer her over the old cortana honestly
And after when she told Chief “I wasn’t talking to you” I was shocked lmao.
Sassy weapon>>>> Cortana
On Mexican Spanish sounded a little bit intimidating, it feels like a real angry woman there haha
Bro I still can’t believe she destroyed Doisac. No wonder Atriox attacked the Infinity like he did.
I mean. Atriox is not a villain anymore is he?
@@thedead073 I’m pretty sure he’s still mad about doisac so yeah
On the side (joke) she did worse then the forest fire in Australia and blew up the planet of the apes
Atriox attacked the infinity to get back at her reminding her of what she said about “choices and actions having consequences!” (Bringing me back to the memory’s of the moral to farcry 4)
@@thedead073 Probably more of an anti-villain.
@@thedead073 Atriox has good intentions but for us he is still a villain because his intentions include the defeat of humanity.
She kept tallkng about the beauty in the power that the ring holds, which made John tilt his head a few times. I don't blame him. When she finds out what she is, she doesn't blame him either.
Yea it’s just that the Weapon is new to everything, what she finds fascinating, John already knows it’s dangerous. Can’t blame either of them like you said
Literally almost cried when I learned that Samuel was the password…. It really hit me different because a lot of people will say “Samuel’s death hit the master chief the hardest, and he then made a promise to never lose another soldier under his command,” this is true and all but just think of the gravity of this whole thing. Samuel’s death was the moment John became the Master Chief, everything he did was in honor of Samuel’s sacrifice. It’s not just for Blue team but for humanity, it paved a road for chief to sacrifice himself in humanity’s dire needs in order to save every soul he can. This, in addition to Cortana being his closest friend next to Blue Team, it really hits you in the feels because when Chief actually shows an ounce humanity, it really becomes something special.
It's not really a betrayal, she even wanted to get deleted when found out she was supposed to. But I can't blame Chief either, image building that same bond with an AI that's supposed to be an exact copy of Cortana and watching her potentially become the same threat and losing her all over again. Chief doesn't want to be alone but he knows it's better than losing someone he loves.
Losing someone he loves has nothing to do with it. The fate of the galaxy is literally at stake.
This isn't some shounen crap lmao
@@jihigh482 What does shonen have to do with this at all?
Chief feels extreme guilt about Cortana and was scared that the Weapon would end up the same way. He wasn't even going to give a chance of that happening. He *did* care about Cortana though, and he does care about Weapon- but Chief wasn't about to risk that chance.
@@Nocturnewashere Ji High just doesn't know what he's talking about
Chief getting called out during this mission hurt, but felt very deserved after this.
I don't think so he was trying to prevent another Cortana incident he put his trust in an AI for years and then she betrayed him, humanity and killed trillions of people and aliens in the name of peace chief let his emotions take control of him before and he won't let it happen again.
You can’t honestly blame the chief for his action he had reason to do what he did and it was a very damn good reason. Sure what he did may seem wrong and a dick move but ever since Cortana had gone haywire chief didn’t want to have a AI like Cortana to possibly end up like her.
People keep forgetting that the Weapon was deliberately deprived of all kinds of important information. She did not even know why she was sent to lock down Cortana in the first place...or even that she was a copy of her, not until she figured it out for herself. The UNSC went out of their way to make her as naive and even childlike as possible, so she wouldn't think too hard on what she was doing. It's positively Machiavellian. When she found out the truth, she immediately accepted death rather than being faced with the prospect of becoming like Cortana. No, it wasn't deserved, but it's equally depressing that the Chief handled the situation so poorly. For someone as resourceful and tactically-astute as he is, his social skills are nearly nonexistent, a haunting, lasting reminder of the human cost of the Spartan-II program. Giving the Weapon even a little context, not even telling her that the deletion protocol existed, but simply letting her know what Cortana did, maybe what she was? It might've made her at least understand his actions. She'd still view it as a betrayal, but AIs in Halo's lore have historically known when they needed to be deleted for the greater good.
Lmao they are gonna have trust issues now 💀😂 Cortana made chief heartless
He’s not heartless, he’s just not willing take any chance with another AI companion.
/spoilers
At the end he learned to trust her and even let her give herself a name too.
@@littleaqua32 nope at the end he just becomes friends with her!!..he even says he doesn’t trust her!
@@Ntwadumela89 he said that he doesn’t trust her but he wants to. She’s an exact copy of cortana and he didn’t want to risk another galaxy wide threat. In the end he does decide to trust her and give her a chance.
@@Ntwadumela89 But he would like to...don't forget that part.
He still has a heart, it’s just been broken
The way Chief uttered Samuel's name and number hit hard.
as a doom fanboy, halo is pretty fuckin cool def gonna get into it
As an enthusiast of both, they are pretty cool. The ending of doom eternal however, reminds me of halo 3 ending.
@@kgbcommitteeforstatesecuri3315 imagine them being combined (in terms of gameplay and enemy NPCs)
@@timur5241 halo infinite is very open world comparing itself to doom eternal though. But id like to see a spartan go ragemod (spartan rage hehe) and do glory kills on grunts
@@kgbcommitteeforstatesecuri3315 yeah, also weapon upgrades/modes, movement & larger variation of enemies (doom has way more enemy types than all of halo games combined)
@@timur5241 not sure with the last statement, id have to count every type of demon and alien in halo and doom which is ALOT
Dialogue in this game is spot on
It really isn't.
@@Tres_Nueve wrong
Yes. it's golden, i honestly just started clipping some of the best cutscenes just so i could watch them again later (mine was dubbed, not English)
@@Tres_Nueve You mad dude? Infinite is the Best and most fun halo campaign I have ever played, and i'm an og halo player
Luckily I finished the campaign just before I got spoiled. And I love it. The Weapon (Cortana 2.0) is so cute after all I've been through with her, I'd welcome her to the team.
I havent even played it yet and I think she'll be one of my favorites.
Almost put a tear to my eye hearing Master Chief say, "Samuel." When he said "Red Flag" I thought the writers put a joke in, like when you're on a new date but the date does or shows something terrible in being a new partner which being coined as "red flag" but it seems to refer to a Campaign operation that never happened due to the fall of Reach.
You should uninstall tiktok
@@chad1782 never had it. Red flag has been used way before social media kid.
@@spyral1051 okay then child
@@spyral1051 why do you have 30 minute mic licking video in your archives 🤨
>says something completely unrelated to comment
>looks deeper in order to insult
>contributes absolutely nothing
The fact that the code is Redflag 034 Samuel made me scream. All these years and I don't think John will ever forgive himself nor will he forget about his best friend. I wish we had more time with him because he was a cool guy. And Red Flag was the mission that was supposed to be the biggest of them all in regards to Spartans. Was the very reason why he was given Cortana. But it all went to hell when reach came under attack.
John has somewhat forgiven himself over Samuel. He hasn’t forgotten but he realized the lesson Samuel taught him. And ironically Red Flag was going to end up happening at Reach. The events of Halo Reach actually take place during the same time period that Chief received Cortana
Definitely my favorite moment during the campaign. Nice to know that the Chief hasn't changed after all these years.
Really love seeing spoilers in the title of videos on my recommended. Really wish youtube could help dealing with these kind of things.
Right? It's so annoying when you are just minding your business and Atriox lives
@@Kronosfall91 Savage😂
"Watch it if you like,Don't if you didn't"
-YT
Instead of dislikes they should have done your idea
@@Kronosfall91 lol no he doesnt
When he said Samuel I got so happy because that’s my name and my favorite characters name, glad Chief still cares for him
bro change the title, I just got the game today and this shows up in my recomended. Thanks RUclips.
No thanks.
RUclips trolling since time immemorial 😅😅
Curse the recommendation
Dude i felt so dirty when he tried it at first but didn't continue, and when he really did it i felt so bad for both
I really like how she is not just pissed, but done with him. The line "There's your Grav Lift." was perfectly said.
Honestly you can't get mad when you're a direct copy of a galaxy wide threat
I wouldn't say that she's really a copy, more of a younger sister. She was created from Halsey's cloned brains the same way that Cortana was, the audio logs confirm it. It ties into the events of Shadows of Reach. There was another AI like that, Cortana's "older sister" Kalmiya or something like that.
She doesn’t know that though, she was just another new naive A.I trying to gain the trust of a Spartan who has been through a lot.
Can’t say I blame him
Chief is still traumatized by his ex.
I am glad new Cortana came to understand this as well.
Don’t know if anyone knows this but Steve Downes read the Fall of Reach and was engrossed with Samuel’s death so much it would impact this performance.
"Red Flag"... huh... That... Kinda sounds like Cortana and Chief's whole relationship...
Red flag it was the operation that cost the almost the 70% of the Spartans-II on Reach
@@tacoazteca225 Good to know thanks. Still... if the shoe fits
@@bruva207 Damn so much lore man
I love infinite for this
Watto: RED FLAGS
Besides his talk with the Pilot this is the most human Chief has ever been. Despite him not wanting to show much emotion, you can see the struggle he has. He’d rather delete her than risk going through what he did with the original Cortana all over again.
I actually love the fact that the final passcode was "Samuel". Besides being a gut punch reference, it's like a reminder to Chief one last time going "the decision you are about to make is going to take someone's life, so make sure it's spent and not wasted". The extended pause he takes before he says the name tells the player that he knows that, too.
Red Flag: The operation during the fall of reach novel to capture a high value prophet to negotiate a cease fire with the covenant. It never began because Reach was attacked.
034: Samuel's Spartan number
Samuel: The first spartan to die to the Covenant. Sacrificed his life on the first mission so the Chief and Blue team could escape. (Chief and Kelly in book)(Chief, Kelly, Linda, & Fred in the mini series). You can also hear Samuel's name called out "For Samuel" if you play Halo Wars. The spartans will call it out during a fight.
They actually had planned for Red Flag to occur at Reach. The reason it never happened is because the required amount of S2s was 20-25 and that number was down to 1 surviving based off what Chief knew.
when chief said Samuel … immediately having flashbacks to legends
Samuel wasn't in Halo: Legends, was he? He was in Fall of Reach, but no Legends.
@@SigTheSauceMan correct thats what i was referring to , at the time of the comment it was 2 am lmao
"Sam was my friend. He was my brother. He was our brother. Last time we were here, I asked Sam to trust me to take us home. To follow me. Will you trust me now? Will you follow me?"
I do wish you hadn't had a title like this on your video. I'm only a wee bit into the game and this popped up.
This video's title spoiled me the day this game came out, thanks for that
I was emotional when I saw the name of Samuel as the password, John's best friend and the tallest and strongest spartan.
The fact that the code for the deletion process is Samuel 034 seriously gives me the chills :( The emotion in Downes' voice as he tried to rush saying his name to try to avoid the pain of that memory.
My jaw hit the floor when he said "Samuel"
I like the new Cortona. She's innocent. And she's trying to fill the hole that The real cortana left.
I like that they even wrote it that way. She trying to fill the void left in Chief while Chief is shutting her out and keeping to himself for the first half.
It was so sad to see her dissapointed in the exposition after that. How she snitched on Chief to the pilot, the overall sassyness was just, so real
It was starting to remind me of Atreus from god of war being a brat when he found out he was a half god
Damn dude. Couldn't even wait a day to start posting spoilers. Nice 🤙
It’s been two days
And this was posted two days ago. Point still stands
@@golfoxyankee1349 you didn’t pass math did you? 9 hours ago isn’t 2 days ago
@@JH50166 Don't be so dense. Even if it was posted five days later it would still be just as lame to post a video with such a title.
@@JH50166 well then RUclips is busted, because when I made my initial comment, it was labeled as being posted two days ago. So you can still pound sand 🤙
The hurt in his voice when he says Samuel is heartbreaking
"I blame myself for the universe being thrown into peril. Will I kill my best friend in order to save the universe from destruction? Back then..no...but now? It is my Duty to protect Humanity....whatever the cost" - Master Chief, John 117
War is all he knows. He's won some battles, he's lost some battles. Whether he knows it or not, he is the Pinnacle of humanity, defying the inevitable and the impossible, but without guidance (The AI) he is as lost as a 14 year old marine on a planet full of deadly aliens.
Ayo that thumbnail tho😳
Bruh I seriously got spoiled on day 1 launch already lmao
The clickbait horde is on the marche. Turns out it arrived in the fortnite
What’s the point of these programmed contingency plans if they could just disable the the deletion anyway chief was lucky he didn’t create a psycho cortana 2.0 lol it was pretty funny how bitchy she was to him after that
Thats most likely the reason only two smart ai were ever created (cortana and the weapon) because if they tried their power would be endless and if you know the story of the forerunners history is just repeating itself
@@see_me_hori1807 There are thousands of Smart AI's. The books go over them a bit. Cortana was special because she was an AI of Halsey. And Halsey gave her access to things the other AI's didn't have. Such as secretly giving her all the state of the art infiltration software from ONI.(I believe it's described in The Halo; Fall of Reach book) Unlike the other Smart AI who had to make due with the information they were given. Cortana is just able to break into anything, be it any UNSC database, ONI, Covenant, or forerunner technology. I assume "The Weapon" was given these Infiltration softwares as well.
Cortana learned for a Covenant AI on how to copy herself. But each copy became more fragmented and degerated. And "The Weapon" is nothing like how Cortana copies work in the book. Even if she didn't have cortana's memories, she would still have the same sassy, spunk, sarcastic attitude cortana had. I mean if her "snapping" was something that carried over, her attitude, and her "hands of her hips sassy remarks" should as well. And forgetting all that, given "The Weapon" is an AI of Halsey she shouldn't be acting this shy, insecure, and weird, like she's a kid growing up. She's about the same age Cortana was during Halo CE. But alas, it's probably just 343's writing. Especially when we look at how needy and whiney the pilot is. Chief feels especially heroic, stoic, and a leader here because the people around him act like kids.
@@Matt-zq8cz I knew I wasn't the only person who felt that way about the pilot
@@Matt-zq8cz I don't think this cortana is shy or weird. She is a bit child like in terms of curiousity. Other than that she is pretty confident in her abilities but wonders why chief is hestitant to use them. If anyone is insecure it's chief. You see it every time he lets her use a module. Also I really like the design for this Cortana. The whole uniform look .
@@Matt-zq8cz she does develop the same attitude, and she is 3~2 years younger than CE Cortana. Also, The Pilot is supposed to be like that to develop as a character, same for the Weapon.
Halo announcer: BETRAYAL!
My name is Samuel, when MC said my name my heart just skipped
3:30 her face is so cute ! And her expressions are top notch ! Doesn't even blink and has a face of disgust haha
I like how Weapon is like the daughter John and Cortana could never have.
Well the title of thos video definitely didn't spoil the game :/
Bruh, the video itself spoils it.
Ikr I hate when people put spoilers in the title
@@ErenxJ itsbthe fact it's the title
This just pissed me off smh
When chief started thinking like the fans XD
I feel bad for Chief
He even blames himself for something he didn’t even do
Saddest moment of the game even more sad than the ending
How far is the ending from this scene?
@Gustavo Baeza so I’m close to beating the game. That’s unfortunate. I want more.
@@TheOtherRUclipsCommenter 4 more missions till the end
@Gustavo Baeza man i just beat the campaign and i feel you 100% can’t wait for the next chapter!
I beat the game 3 days ago and felt the same way. I really hope that we get story DLC if they are gonna support infinite for 10 years. I'm on my second playthrough now because the game was so good 😆
oh god Just like CJ said " Here we go again ".I don't wanna this to happen again.
Honestly, the “I thought we were a team…” scared me a bit, cortana flashback
Thanks for posting this I beat this part last night but I wanted to watch the scene again. It’s been in my mind all day 😂
Chief: I’ll take care of you
Also chief: sike
I felt that when she said “why won’t you trust me?”
I am ordering you..... TO SURRENDER THAT AI
No sir.
Chief:"......red flag"
Me: Hang on......
Chief:"0-3-4"
me: WAIT THATS-
chief: "Samuel"
Me: I'm not gonna cry...........*starts crying*
This is important in how in emphasize John-117 in both responsibility and cautiousness.
Remember when John said when he met Weapon first time after 6 months: "Something stopped your deletion, we need to find out why?". This kind of implies that John suspects Rogue-Cortana is posing as the Weapon by having the index divided to different sectors so she can gradual recompose herself.
This scene shows that John wants to save Weapon, yet at the same time cannot underestimate Rogue-Cortana's revival, or possibility she is going to remember who she is, thus sets the deletion protocol in motion.
I think Samuel-034 is not a direct deletion order, rather, is a safety protocol that the Neural-Locked AI will be deleted if strayed from the neural control. Think about: Spartan Samuel died when he left the 'sight' of John-117 to give them time to flee; Samuel-034 directive suggests that Weapon will be deleted if she breaks of Neural Connection Protocol when activated, which will force her to return to John-117's domain of control.
In summary, if you think John 'betrays' Weapon, i think it is possible but unlikely, this man has the sense of loyalty that falling onto Earth wont even break him. John cannot take the risk to let Weapon take all control so carefree that resulted in devastation across the galaxy if this Weapon turns out to be Rogue-Cortana in disguise. And remember that Weapon is cloned from Ur-Cortana and the Weapon can essentially become Rogue if she inhabits her memory and index.
I don’t think the code necessarily had anything to do with the original Cortana coming back. It was more something that only Chief would use. Samuel-034 isn’t just because he left the sight of John. It showed John the Covenant could be defeated at great sacrifice. He made a promise that day to never forget him or what he did. The main thing pointing to that is Red Flag being the operation where almost all S2s were essentially wiped out. Outside of Blue team I think there was maybe 2-3 other teams one of which was Grey Team. John chose those phrases because they meant something to him personally and nobody else.
It still gives me a smile the first threat Sam gave to John was “ you better help us! OR I’ll push you off one of that platforms!”
"I can show you the rings,
Deadly circles a plenty.
Tell me, Weapon, do you mind
If I disk cleanup your drive?"
I don't know what to feel about this xD
Operation: Red Flag 034 Samuel
Thats a nice detail
This scene fucking destroyed me. NGL I nearly cried.
To anyone who thinks he's "betraying her", remember, this IS the Cole Protocol mentioned way back in the 1st game. He can't allow an AI to fall into enemy hands, lest the enemy learn the location of Earth. Not to mention weapons research, force deployments, and other information which could end the human race if the enemy knew it.
The Weapon was also supposed to be deleted when Cortana was destroyed. She's only still around because Cortana saved her.
Red Flag - 034 ...... those are not just security codes. RIP to those who didn't make it beyond the point of Red Flag, and RIP to Sam, Spartan 034. John took it hard when his fellow spartans died in the Halo books. He beat himself up over many not making it past the augmentation process. They promised each other that they would succeed together. He felt like, as their leader and their brother, he had failed them. This game did such an amazing job at showing he isn't a machine, and to reference something like that from the first Eric Nylund Halo novel through a simple passcode is insane.
It makes me happy so many people know about Samuel
3:27 Good Soilders follow orders 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Star Wars the clone wars
@@Spartan_Ghost98 Yup
Fuckin spoilers. Thanks youtube
Having 034 and samual as passcodes is brilliant. What a amazing and subtle callback.
"ill take care of you" he meant that literally huh
Spartan or not, he is a human after all
I was just wondering. How did she break protocol ? I didn’t quite understand
Well she said that she was supposed to help the Chief find Cortana and put a stop to her reign of terror and I think she found out that once she got Cortana probably the UNSC was going to delete her as well if I'm thinking straight or not
She disabled her deletion protocols
I think this was an attempt to stop her from being compromised by The Harbinger or something else. Obviously she shouldn’t have stopped her deletion, but I think Chief does it out of necessity and fear rather than just being heartless.
At this point chief have seen to many spartans/humans killed by cortana it makes sense being the icon he is for humanity to be 99% careful
Cortana and it seems like cortana 2 as well can break any code
0:54 the way his head moves says it all, "awww shit, here we go again"
The whole time I just kept thinkin back to Johnson’s death and him telling chief to never let her go and how much cortana meant to him and why he’s so untrustworthy of this new ai
this wasn't a "betrayal"
more so a "doing the right thing vs doing the RIGHT thing"
This game made me wanna cry sometimes.
I can’t play this since I’m on PlayStation but gotta feel for ppl who see this and have it spoiled. Maybe wait a few weeks babyzone? 😅
Yea seriously played for a couple hours went on RUclips and instantly got this in my recommended
I'm gonna spoil so many people
yup same started playing a few hours ago and come on youtube and this is in the first batch of videos i see. brilliant
Honestly at least like put a disclaimer
So true
She went out to do that on her own with 0 communication with Chief, while breaking protocol, then acted offended when he was gonna delete her to stop her from being compromised
So in summary: master chiefs new E gir doesn't do the right thing so he tries to kill her and she then hates him but still likes him.
In bird culture this is considered a dick move.
It was upsetting to watch this just seeing how much human emotion this AI has then cortana did at the start of the series and the fact that she sounds like a kid but I understand why he tried to do this with every thing that happened throughout the master chief saga
What they should of added was the flash back of sargents last words to chief, besides I know sarge wouldn’t want this for chief to delete her
You know, you could have changed the title or put a disclaimer on it? So that you didn't spoil the whole story?
the way he says samuel sounded sad cause that was like his brother when they was young
And now she has a reason to talk shit for the rest of the game. At least I can mentally prepare now.
Well, for a few missions after that, but once she learns why, she forgives him
This honestly made me cry man fuck me this was so hard to watch