Amazon’s Return-to-Office Mandate: Why Employees Are Fighting Back

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @YoonHangKimMD
    @YoonHangKimMD 21 день назад +6

    There are not a lot of well-paying jobs now. The power is with Amazon.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  21 день назад

      @YoonHangKimMD I know what you mean. Not to mention the current AMZ stock price. Can you imagine the RSUs given each year? 😅 Also, do you think things will turn around and become a tech employee's market again? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

    • @froukehermens2176
      @froukehermens2176 19 дней назад

      So people might do the bare minimum to scrape out the money to retire early?

    • @JohnSmith-k1x
      @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад +1

      @@YoonHangKimMD NO the power is within you always, you just need to want it bad enough. It is easy to make excuses - but hard to make the good life choices.

    • @JohnSmith-k1x
      @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад +1

      @@TonyTheAntonio look everyone in the Amazon fight, stop thinking about Amazon and start making choices for your self. Invest in your self and the return on investment we be greater than any job.

    • @JohnSmith-k1x
      @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад

      @@YoonHangKimMD I am retired now And have been retired since I was 57 years old, yes I retired 10 years early. You do not need a great job if your in your bid 20’s or any age. If I was 23 working for Amazon this is what I would do-- 1. Find a night job somewhere light a janitor at a hospital,
      2. Sign up for night classes in automation systems and work nights go to school full time during the day learn your craft, one year before you graduate look for an internship or start applying g for a job in the field of automation. If you started now by the time you graduate in 2 to 4 years you will be set everywhere you look there is more and more automation, you may never be rich but you will always have good demanding job. When everyone else is still chasing there tails. Good luck and remember always make good life choices now so you can enjoy life later.

  • @Justsay_n
    @Justsay_n 19 дней назад +2

    I've been a research tech for over 30 years. We have to go to the lab to work. Many people have to go in to work to provide for society like construction workers, retailers, repair men, surgeons, etc. I see a place for remote workers in certain fields, but naturally, empathy is easy, but compassion is hard.

    • @MarieLamour-cv1jc
      @MarieLamour-cv1jc 19 дней назад

      A significant amount of positions do NOT need in-office employees. They keep pushing for green new deal bs, thus this would reduce traffic. You chose your position, so did many others that are required to be at the office or site. No reason to make everyone go in that do not "need" to. People like you are obnoxious on this issue. Less of us on the road, makes it easier for those that need to go in with less traffic. If you don't want to work at the site that is required i.e. nurse, surgeon, lab etc., then get a different career.

    • @kc6810
      @kc6810 19 дней назад +1

      Why not keep the roads less busy for the people who do have to go out to work? We all make our choices. I do home health and have to run around all day. I kinda like it but sometimes wish i could stay home but that’s impossible for the job.

    • @Justsay_n
      @Justsay_n 19 дней назад

      @kc6810 Well, you do make a good point I have to admit.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  8 дней назад +1

      @kc6810 Ditto. You do make a good point about keeping the roads less busy for those who do need to go out to work. Now that you mention it, logistics jobs like delivery, truck driving, and others could definitely benefit from less traffic. It’d make their workday a lot easier.

  • @Solstice42
    @Solstice42 6 дней назад

    Nailed it - I call it HR’s “Accelerated Attrition” strategy - put up as much friction as possible to get people to leave on their own, saving huge $$$ and bad press on layoffs. My take on any perceived ‘WFH failures’ comes more from a failure of middle management than on anything else. The managers don’t know how to operate effectively, set and negotiate proper expectations nor cultivate and motivate talent. In short, managers have a serious lack of situational awareness in the remote WFH space.

  • @keithej2
    @keithej2 19 дней назад +1

    Retired recently but we couldn't work from home during the cough. Industrial equipment service techs had to be in the factory service dept to make repairs. Had to deal with corporate and government employees "working" from home and was not impressed. Maybe they were working hard but things didn't seem to get done very quickly. I suspect Amazon isn't concerned about work efficiency. They're probably hoping a bunch of people quit so they don't have to pay layoff benefits.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      @keithej2 Thanks for sharing your perspective! I can definitely see how that would be frustrating, especially as someone who had to be on-site. It's true that not all jobs can be done remotely. And yeah, the layoff benefits angle is definitely something some people are concerned about. Given how focused Amazon is on the bottom line-I mean, they're known for quickly shutting down unprofitable ventures-it does make you wonder if this is a factor. What do you think makes this situation different from their usual approach to unprofitable projects?

  • @robtathome
    @robtathome 19 дней назад

    Hey - there's been some big changes in office work! Fluorescent lights are now LED...

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  19 дней назад +1

      Haha, good catch! Thank you for watching and pointing that out. Funny enough, after the final review of this video, I realized I should update 'fluorescent' to LED-but I decided to leave it as is. It felt like a fun way to reflect my 52 years of life experience (and memories of those flickering lights... and that guy with the stapler in the basement!). I figured someone might have a witty comment on this, and you didn’t disappoint! Cheers,

  • @JohnSmith-k1x
    @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад +2

    Stop making excuses for your failed life and get up make a plan to get your life back on track. Everyone says it is this other person’s fault, when it is yours

  • @SoloByteStudio
    @SoloByteStudio 19 дней назад

    Hey Tony, your vids are getting suggested to me now. Nice job on cracking that 300 subs, congrats :)

  • @gta4everrr
    @gta4everrr 19 дней назад

    Quite the coincidence that January 2 is literally Day 2; it's not even a Monday, which is the strangest thing about that choice. I'm literally the only person on my team who is assigned to my office. Everyone else is in Seattle. My work routine won't be impacted much at all. The only difference is now I'll have to do it in the office 100% of the time. The funny thing is that I actually prefer going in to the office 2-3 days a week. Now they're gonna be forcing me to go in 5.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      @gta4everrr Thanks for watching! I agree, January 2nd is a strange date, especially mid-week. It's interesting you're the only one on your team assigned to your office. It reminds me of my time at a consulting firm-I had to go into the Bellevue office even though all my clients were remote. So I’d literally just sit in a room and have remote meetings all day. It was ridiculous! I eventually just stopped going in, and nobody even noticed because the client was happy. It sounds like the main difference for you is just the forced 5-day in-office requirement, even though you preferred a hybrid model. If that's frustrating for you, I can only imagine how others might be feeling. Do you think this kind of policy will impact team dynamics and collaboration, and if so, for how long?

  • @jedg4746
    @jedg4746 19 дней назад

    In the 1980s and 90s, to suggest home working got you the suspect look of a crazy heretic! I could never understand the amount of hours wasted in commuting. They had to invent a word to justify it. This was a work system left over from a time when people lived in the same neighbourhood, that had somehow survived into the 20th century - no matter how far a person now lived from their place of work. Most people live on auto-pilot and do not think about why they are doing something. Yet they still want to keep commuting alive now that we have the communications tech of the 21st century! The employer problem is that working from home enables people to “work to live, not live to work.” The employers feeling of not owning you completely creates anxiety for them. Power. The people in charge are usually power and control freaks by definition. Unless these sociopaths are no longer promoted then the commuting will continue.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  19 дней назад

      You nailed it! Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. It’s wild how the old commuting model has survived so long, even when modern tech makes it unnecessary. And now, instead of embracing real flexibility, we’ve got tools tracking keyboard, network, or app activity-completely missing the point of what productivity really means. Enter the mouse jigglers to keep the system happy. It feels like employers still cling to control over trust, doesn’t it?
      What’s your take-will companies ever fully trust remote work, or are we stuck in this outdated control mindset? I’d love to hear your thoughts! 😊

  • @JohnSmith-k1x
    @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад +1

    You need to want it bad enough to make the hard life choices now so you can enjoy life later.

  • @robtathome
    @robtathome 19 дней назад

    BTW Tony - the middle ground is coffee badging...

    • @Will_0001
      @Will_0001 19 дней назад

      Still have to commute to do that

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  19 дней назад

      @robtathome @Will_0001 Ha ha, coffee badging-☕️! Time it right, dodge the traffic, and it’s practically a productivity hack, right? Who knows, maybe a techie with some RSU stocks to burn could snag a Jetson ONE. Could faster coffee badging be the next big thing? 😄

  • @michaelashby9654
    @michaelashby9654 19 дней назад

    The framing "return to office" is to place "office" into a place of normalcy that we've left to be returned to. Yet, the office is not the natural state of man to be returned to. But I notice how its framed using "return to office" or "back to office". Office work was a function of a specific and recent set of circumstances. Nobody voted to spend hours of our days stuck in traffic and to be away from family all day most days. This wasn't a conscious choice nor are we evolved for office work.
    For most of human existence, 99.999% of it, we worked with family and local community. Working from home is the normal state. We have returned to home.
    Tech is about efficiency and it should be able to free many or most from inefficient drudgery and waste of commuting and the isolation/atomization of family.
    Further, our cities do not create family friendly environments we feel perfectly safe in. (They are in other nations so it is possible.) US cities have been on a decline for many decades. But the decline accelerated since 2020 significantly. Seattle is a shell of its former already grungy self. But many if not most major US cities has seen this decline.
    I won't be going back. And the young folks need to think carefully about going back. If you normalize going back you'll be stuck in 1-2 hour gridlock daily for decades, and for nothing.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад +1

      @michaelashby9654 Thanks for watching! I really resonate with what you're saying about the "return to office" framing and the reality of commuting. I had a similar experience pre-pandemic when my company moved from Bellevue to Elliott Bay-a move spearheaded by the CEO who now runs Uber, ironically. They moved the whole Bellevue office to Seattle only to have layoffs shortly after. My commute went from 40 minutes to almost 3 hours each way. It was brutal, and I honestly wished I'd been part of the layoffs at that point. It really makes you think about the cost of that wasted time and the impact on our lives. I'm curious, have you seen any effective ways to push back against these "return to office" mandates?

    • @michaelashby9654
      @michaelashby9654 12 дней назад

      @@TonyTheAntonio You ask a very difficult question. I think being prepared to move on is the best strategy. There are now many more remote opportunities.

  • @JohnSmith-k1x
    @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад +2

    Entitle workers, Your bad life choices is not everyone else's issue, let me explain : A lot of remote workers had move away from the state they had to in person work, thinking remote work is here to stay when it started, or you had 2 cars and got rid of one because you no longer do in person work, and you got rid of the babysitter and other non essentials that come with in person work, So do to remote work you were able to shed a lot of your non essentials that you may have needed when you did in person work. So the 1st bad life choice was assuming remote work was here to stay and the 2nd bad life choice you made was getting rid of all non essentials that were needed for in person work. What do you think. ??? Thanks

    • @gta4everrr
      @gta4everrr 19 дней назад +1

      Without any clear data showing in-person work is more productive than at-home work, the only bad life choices that are being made are Amazon's. The employee's life choices weren't any one else's issue until Amazon decided to make it everyone else's issue.

    • @JohnSmith-k1x
      @JohnSmith-k1x 19 дней назад

      @@gta4everrr If you are talking about Amazon workers they can leave and find a better job, if they feel they are not being treated fairly. It is a free country you can do or be anything you want. You just need to want it bad enough to work hard to get there. Remember nothing in life that is worth wild is easy, You need to want it bad to get it. i think that is the whole point-- No one is willing to work hard and make the difficult choices to reach your goals.
      Nothing in life that is worth while is easy to get.You need to want it bad, to work hard to get it.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      Hi @JohnSmith-k1x, I appreciate your perspective. While I understand the argument about people making choices based on the expectation of permanent remote work, I don't think it's fair to label people "entitled" for adapting to a situation their company initially presented. Regardless of individual choices, forcing everyone back to the office can still create logistical and morale challenges that affect team dynamics, cross-team collaboration, and ultimately, company culture. Do you think these potential team-wide impacts are worth considering?

    • @JohnSmith-k1x
      @JohnSmith-k1x 18 дней назад +1

      @@TonyTheAntonio I think you have come to a fare assumption, just keep in mind my post you are responding to touches on more than just "entitled" but rather focuses on the broader result that people believed that remote work was here to stay, when in fact these people made life altering decisions based on this idea, and as a result those decisions have put them in a position now that they can not get out of.
      Maybe it is just me but if I was faced with this life choice of making permanent changes to my family based on a temporary situation ( that the Pandemic created remote work) with the understanding that this phase on work may not last after the Pandemic is over it would definitely play into my life choice of what to do. I believe the key component is people are making life choices based on a situation that may not last and they are failing to see this. I am a boomer (retired @ 57 ) 10 years early because I made the right life choices. entitlement is define as someone or group who feels the are due or deserve special treatment for there situation. Maybe it is me and maybe because of my age and upbringing I think different then others. If this is true I apologize. My post is never to criticize rather to enlighten others to there short coming in hopes they do not make the same mistake again. I thank you for your post and hope you are able to see past my views based on my generation.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      No need to apologize. I appreciate you engaging in this discussion. It's helpful to hear different viewpoints. I just wanted to share my thoughts in a more objective way. Thanks for your thoughts. ❤

  • @Solstice42
    @Solstice42 6 дней назад

    I would go - they missed the boat … wait until VR really gets here. I can say, my college age kid has NO interest in commuting to an office to work every day.

  • @fatherwilliam7256
    @fatherwilliam7256 19 дней назад +1

    The "return to the office mandate" across ALL companies over the last year (not just Amazon) is about productivity. Because too many workers have proven that they are not willing to be productive outside the office. If you want someone to blame, blame the unproductive ruining it for the productive. Come to think of it, that's pretty much true of everything. The unproductive ruin the world for the rest of us.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  19 дней назад

      Thank you for watching and sharing your perspective! You bring up a good point about productivity. But it makes me wonder-if an employee isn’t performing by measurable standards, why doesn’t the employer just fire them? Could it be that firing them might force the employer to reveal the data they’ve been collecting, like employee laptop monitoring? And if that’s the case, is it really good for business to rely on that kind of monitoring in the first place?
      What’s your take-do you think companies should handle unproductive employees differently, or is bringing everyone back to the office the only real solution?

    • @fatherwilliam7256
      @fatherwilliam7256 19 дней назад

      @@TonyTheAntonio I think it's up to each company how (or even if) they choose to work with and/or monitor employee productivity. Just like it's up to each employee how much effort they are willing to put into their job for the compensation on offer. I don't know the ins and outs of working at Amazon, but the traditional carrot and stick approach that fell out of favor since the plague that shall not be named, has worked better than anything else in my lifetime. And by carrot and stick I mean salary, benefits, and bonuses being the carrot, and termination being the sick. I don't know why companies started caring about anything OTHER than the competence and character of their employees since 2020, but it's wrecking entire industries. And on a personal note, it's really hard to bust you a55 and work 20 hours of overtime to achieve a goal for no appreciable benefit when the guy next to you who's just mailing it in 40 hours a week gets promoted just because he checks a box for HR.

    • @MarieLamour-cv1jc
      @MarieLamour-cv1jc 19 дней назад

      Some of us are much more productive out of the office. This is an excuse to push jobs overseas

    • @fatherwilliam7256
      @fatherwilliam7256 19 дней назад

      @@MarieLamour-cv1jc Well if they get more productivity for less cost, why would they not want to move jobs overseas?

    • @MarieLamour-cv1jc
      @MarieLamour-cv1jc 19 дней назад +1

      @@fatherwilliam7256 You think we should be sending all our jobs overseas? You sound anti-american.
      Good to know when I hire... We do extensive checks on potential employees. Comments like these, make me toss your resume.

  • @aperson1181
    @aperson1181 17 дней назад

    Yes you're correct in this video I won't be happy either but not only happy I am on the same page I would not be as productive because of all the chitchats nearby you cannot focus on concentrating. The power is always with people you don't have to buy from Amazon to pump up their stock price

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  16 дней назад

      On the Amz shopping side, I wish there was a good alternative, but I'm kind of stuck with it for now. And Prime Video is getting ridiculous-so many more rentals and purchases now. It's not the same as it used to be. So, besides just giving up and going home to work, what do you do to stay focused when things get distracting?

  • @paulgugger8987
    @paulgugger8987 17 дней назад

    They want you to quit. Anyone who has a job better hang on to it and try their best to be the last one let go! Give the other fella hell!

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  16 дней назад

      @paulgugger8987 Thanks for watching! Great point. It definitely feels like they're trying to thin the herd. Suck it up and hang in there…for now. But this isn't going to last forever. I'm hoping the balance of power will shift back towards employees in the future. What are your thoughts on how long this kind of job market might last?

    • @MarieLamour-cv1jc
      @MarieLamour-cv1jc 8 дней назад

      @@TonyTheAntonio It will last forever until AI takes over, or they bring in H1B to take over.

  • @roxeloggins
    @roxeloggins 19 дней назад

    If Trump is going to cut Early Childhood Education, why not continue with people staying home to work. As long as they are doing their jobs, should not be a problem....🤔

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  19 дней назад

      Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share your thoughts-I really appreciate it! You make a great point-if people can effectively do their jobs from home, it’s a win-win, especially for parents managing their time with young kids. On top of that, the cost of childcare these days is like another mortgage payment-it’s getting ridiculous. Remote work could play a big role in addressing broader issues like education and family support.
      What’s your take-do you think companies will ever fully embrace remote work as the norm, or is the push to return to offices just too strong?

  • @SteveBryant-h3l
    @SteveBryant-h3l 19 дней назад

    Amazon is your employer. I suspect they will call the shots. Your options as an "at will" employee are, get your ass back in the office or.... find another nanny to look after you.

    • @MarieLamour-cv1jc
      @MarieLamour-cv1jc 19 дней назад

      Okay, boomer

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      @SteveBryant-h3l Sadly. I suspect this may be the reality for most, at least in the short term. You're right, Amazon is calling the shots. So, within that context, what options do employees realistically have besides "get back in the office or find another job"?

  • @fatheadcat9958
    @fatheadcat9958 19 дней назад

    After being made redundant time after time after time I had enough and work for myself now and have for a few years. Yes I don't have as much cash, but I don't have to juggle time and life while making someone else rich anymore.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      @fatheadcat9958 Thanks for watching! That's awesome that you took control and started working for yourself. It’s definitely a trade-off-maybe less cash, but definitely more control over your time and life. I'm glad you found your way. I hope to be there someday. What's one piece of advice you'd give to someone thinking about taking the leap and working for themselves?

  • @Tsuboman1
    @Tsuboman1 19 дней назад

    Let the market decide . My gut feel is that only the best of the best gets to work from home if they so prefer. Another leverage😄 . Every one else get ready to quit or get back to your cubicle. One more thing bro. DEI is dead. It should be all MERIT where by the best person gets the job .

    • @ForgottenKnight1
      @ForgottenKnight1 19 дней назад

      Your gut feeling is wrong. Whoever took that decision at Amazon (or any other mega corporation for that matter) does not know you and doesn't give a sheet if you are "the best of the best" or not. If they demand RTO, you will do it, or fly. DEI is VERY FAR from dead, in fact, in the past year and a half it has never been more alive. It should be all merit, but it's not. The market right now is in the favour of corporations, so they get to do all this BS everywhere and get away with it, but when the cycle will turn competent people will remember how they for fired (officially or masked) and will be less eager to engage with these mega corps.

    • @TonyTheAntonio
      @TonyTheAntonio  18 дней назад

      @Tsuboman1 Thanks for your comment. If someone achieves "exalted" rep status at Amazon, I suppose exceptions might be made. But does everyone have equal access to the opportunities that would allow them to reach that level in the first place?