Surfers crack me up. They try to promote chill vibes, aloha mentality, unity, peace, etc. YET, are the most elitist and clicky group ever. They run around like lil gang groups (not on my turf I’m a local! lol). I get it needs rules, boundaries, etc. it’s just ironic.
Isn’t this the same guy who said if anyone comes to his home break in Hawaii he’ll drop in on them every time because he’s a local and deserves it?? 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Not really what he said… he said when people come to his home break and don’t have etiquette then locals will use localism as a tool keep order…. In other words you don’t take turns and think you are entitled to every wave with no turns then they are going to teach you by doing what you are doing to everyone else back to you. He never said he is just going to drop in on non locals every time and that since he is a local he deserves it. He said since they are the locals they need to keep order at their spot so it doesn’t turn into a Malibu situation. Skateparks work the same way, the asshole is the person who comes to the spot thinking they don’t need to share and causes issues that push the locals to resort to keeping order. No one owns the spot, but you can’t expected to go up in a spot and have no etiquette with no repercussions just because no one owned it…. If you are in the grocery store with a full cart and just decide to cut the whole line of people who have already been waiting then you are gonna piss everyone off…. It’s common sense, this is not much different other than the fact the person cutting typically does it multiple times before the locals finally say ok, no more of this prick. You have the idea of what localism is as all wrong. It isn’t bullying, if anything the stingy mf who thinks sharing doesn’t apply to him is the initial bully. I’m sure someone probably said something as well by the time everyone decides fuck it we are dropping in on him everytime. The person this happens to usually had a chance to realize what they were doing was frowned upon but continued anyways because “you don’t own the wave” “I can ride whatever one I want”. It’s simple take turns and you won’t be treated like a dick. Sharing is caring.
Haha could you imagine if thos edequette happened at a real wave like pipe. People would die everyday. So cal surfers are the biggest cowards, no one left down there to regulate.
Did you not tell the world that you would drop in on Strangers when they are surfing Pipeline? Maybe you get the same on a Break where you are the Stranger...
@@dialysisdude1079 He dont snake people while they are up and riding, you can get killed at pipe doing that. Whats going on here is just moronic. Malikook at its finest
He literally has a video where he and Makua compete for how many people they can burn at Rockies. And yes, they drop in on many people already on the wave @@woodnbikes
Or go learn far far away from others until you are ready. And/ or watch the good surfers and learn, not put their life in danger. We get angry because dumb people hurt others duh
Most breaks I’ve been to, the experienced surfers share the waves and follow etiquette and it’s pretty easy to spot the newbies. It’s a non-issue at most spots as you can just surf around them, and they’re too new/in survival mode to understand etiquette. You can teach the mediocre surfers proper etiquette so they don’t drop in on you, typically just takes one or two heads up and they get it. With that said, Malibu, this spot is a joke. It is a great wave, but you just have way too many ppl there on a given day. It’s always madness.
@@Finntheagent that’s ridiculous. You do not learn shit from watching someone do a thing you need to try and fail and do it over many times. Have you never tried to learn a new skill/hobby? You sound like someone chronically online all day
@@kylehutchison4216 right on, I assumed this was the case 90% of the time realistically, most people with hundreds of hours in something are aware enough to tap a newbie on the shoulder and give some tips to help everyone involved have a better time.. the internet makes me forget that sometimes lol Edit - only been to Malibu once and wasn’t to surf, but I can only imagine
Think of it this way you are skating a half pipe and 1 -2 people drop in on you that’s a complete dick move. He’s talking something along the lines of when a good wave comes locals get priority not a free for all everyone go at once.
surfing has become joke-like everywhere even in Aus and NZ (spent half my life in each) any good break is swarmed as soon as there's a sniff of swell, since ~ 2008...then there's Bali: 2nd, 3rd rate waves packed with instagramming European gronks and gladiatorial yet not necessarily capable Brazilians
@@Odhege8262okay, well tell any Hawaiian born local that and I'm sure you'll get a different opinion, but that place is run by rules. Etiquette only gets you the ability to paddle out and sit in the lineup. Then you'll figure out what the rules are 🤙
@@FluffyAlpaca81 I'm sorry. i take it back. He's actually a rich Philadelphia jew. It's hilarious hearing a guy named 'rothman' talking about localism in Hawaii. Maybe he confused the beach sand for the sand in the desert.
Last time I served First point Malibu was about 15 years ago and it was pretty good. Not too many people out. Yeah now it's different. Same with third point.
I grew up a 45 min drive north of there and it’s crazy how much the surf culture changes. The Ventura/ LA county line (clowny line) is where it begins. Rincon is just as crowded but there is respect and awareness. I love the Yin and Yang of Malibu/ Rincon though and still drive down to get a few when a big south comes through ☯️
Surfers; chill vibes bruh, all about connecting to the surf and the ocean and just kind of like, being at peace bruh… Also surfer; no! That’s MY wave! *has temper tantrum like petulant child*
Yeah homeboy, obviously you’re a kook. People can get seriously hurt out there when there’s idiots in the water. And you gonna fix my $800 surfboard when you take a chunk out of it? Because you don’t know what you’re doing? No you’re not. And that’s why people get beat up all the time over this kinda thing.
“The biggest donkeys on the planet, it’s crazy” hahaha….brah I nearly choked on my drink 😆 here on the Gold Coast we just start throwing hands immediately as they’re dropping in.
Ask him if his daddy still has nightmares about the “Corrupt WSL” every night. That’s why he started doing meth, he wanted to force himself to stay awake so he doesn’t have to deal with those scary dreams.
Would pay to watch cocky KOA get pieced up by an average JOE hahahah ... he charges but his performance surfing is lackluster SMH i'm from Florida and he's about on my level but my cutback is way sicker jajajaj
Honestly you shouldn’t be complaining cause you surf the best waves in the world all the time. We can’t all be as lucky as you. If anything I hope you realize how blessed you are. Us non pros have to deal w shit like this at almost every break in Cali. Sadly people just don’t respect rules like they use to. Or most don’t even know them. They probably just buy a board and go out.
Everyone should have to pass a surfing etiquette test before they are allowed to surf in an actual lineup, with actual surfers🤷♂️ I used to point out to kooks and learners what the rules are. And dish out polite shaming and punishment to people that should know better. These days, it’s such a kookfest. You get lambasted by the whole lineup for trying to explain to people what the rules are and why they exist. All of a sudden, you😮the bad guy. Even though you’re the one getting repeatedly burnt by a bunch of kooks going straight ahead, falling off in your face, often kicking their board at you in the process. But somehow you’re the bad guy!!?? 🤷♂️ Talk about a role reversal! Kooks run the lineups now. Its a total joke. Don’t get me started on dads pushing their kids into waves straight in front of people already up and riding! 😮 I mean WTF!! If that’s who’s teaching you to surf, well then you’re fuc$ed basically from the start aren’t you?? 🤷♂️ And surf schools. They don’t teach etiquette at all!! She’s pretty gnarly out there being surrounded by so many kooks with no idea about anything!? 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️🥴
Surfer Bros are since of the most imitated ppl ever and make firefighters look humble and self effacing. saw my first ones in Lombok Indonesia, stuck up bitches in dude form
I am over surfing in LA. I feel the same way. I literally almost got into a fight for a wave. It’s so frustrating to be out there and having to deal with Kooks
Let's just call it like it is. Koa is just an average joe surfer on anything that's under 8' and not barreling. Like for real there are a half dozen guys at my local break that surf better than Koa in 6 foot surf. Now 10' barreling Pipe. That's a different story. The guy charges it!
🤣🤣🤣 when there is kooks droping on you ! For sure you cant to nothing 😝😝😝 otherwise if he tries something He would fuck peoples up doin' a roller... i think People in that place need to learn priority in surfing
It’s sometimes not realistic to zoom down the line a football field away and hope everyone is spotting and waiting for you they want to surf and they aren’t going anywhere head out to pipeline or salt creek or something how could you even get to malibu anyways
2 guys dropped in on him, he took care of the first moron, 2nd one eventually moved off. Malibu is an excellent wave, but ruined by too many folks, and too much hostility.
I’m glad I got out of surfing before I got into it. Once incought my first wave and stood up and rode it out, I was done. Experience complete. Toxic culture.
Getting waves at 'Bu is it's own specific skill. When people realize that you're not the guy they can drop in on, and that you're making all of your waves, it tends to happen less.
@@woodnbikesI agree. However, there's people who don't adhere to the proper wave etiquette, as you can see in the video. Since there's multiple points, and a few different take-offs within each point/section - on occasion one looks back and concludes that a given rider isn't going to make it past where you're at, or at least as far as you're about to, if you go... At that point, given the size and ruthlessness of the crowd, at some point pragmatic decisions get made. If you're good at it - you can read the lineup, and know whos-who, and avoid letting a good wave go to waste. If you're not - you wind up ruining Koa's wave, as we saw here, or perhaps one of the many great surfers who ride there, more often.
I’m not a surfer, but I feel like to claim an entire wave for the length of 100 yards as your own… is a little selfish. Am I wrong??… I’m genuinely curious
As a dude that grew up surfing in the insanely packed Laguna Beach local spots that even the tourists managed to find, sometimes you gotta share a line, doubly so if it’s a long one. You’re not alone out there, we all need to actually be chill and watch for each other on both sides of the break. If you can’t handle being mellow, and your fellow stick-standers can’t rely on you to have their backs, maybe the ocean isn’t the best place for you.
I’ve been surfing for 50 years, but stopped surfing Malibu in ‘92. Nobody has respect and most are snakes. Basically everyone’s out there to make sure nobody gets a good ride.
A few years ago I watched Malibu on surf line. I thought there was something up with the cam because there was always multiple people on the same wave. I really thought that
@elijah-blunoa8898 obviously you've never surfed in the bu. There are no rules. That's like going to a scooter park and complaining about all the fucking scooters. That's like going to the beach and complaining about all the sand. Wake up early and get the best waves of the day. With the real locals. Or. Get ready to battle in the arena or barney's.
@@elijah-blunoa8898 People only always use the term etiquette, when they want to make the point they themselves have a right of passage, even when there is no single rule to actually say this.
People don't usually drop on someone at pipe because it's dangerous for everyone. Instead, they paddle around you and assume priority. If you respect that long enough, they'll let you have one. What we see here is just a comeplete barnyard.
We are on this beautiful planet getting to play in the water TOGETHER. Embrace others with love and if they don’t give it back to you then pity them for not being able to see that
@@wrench9103lol you have to be more athletic to surf than any high school sport, and I’m saying that as someone who played wrestling, football, tennis and basketball
The funny thing is that young man is one of the cool ,calm, always smiling one of the Nicest kids I knew growing up on the North Shore! An I grew up with his older brother. All Good Hawaiian!! 🤙🏽
I started surfing in my 20’s when I was stationed at Pearl Harbor. The difference between Cali surfers and Hawaiian surfers is that Hawaiians localize their beaches. You don’t get haoles dropping in on your wave unless they want some respect beaten into them. I was lucky enough to have an older surfer, who realized I was just learning, to teach me the etiquette of surfing and tuning and tweaking what I was doing. I’ll take Hawaii over Cali anyday
The ocean is fucking 70% of the planet. That beach is like 30 miles long, go find somewhere else to splash around if you don’t want to be around people
My friend was born in a VW bus van about 35 years ago IN THE PARKING LOT at First pointe Malibu. He's lived there his whole life and he and his brothers are locals there, grew up surfing first point second point, places like Zuma.. They live right up the street. Anyway, we used to surf Malibu together and he told me that this is how you surf Malibu... A. You have to share waves and Malibu. B. You have to be willing to fight for your waves at Malibu. C. The way he and his brothers would do it is they just dropping on fools so the brother could get the wave. Like blocking. But that's how you do it at Malibu.
We were County Line locals. My best friend's brother, Big Ray Gann owned the Line Shack and Pacific Visions surf shop built onto the burger store across from Neptunes Net. Those were heady days and there was no better time or place in the world compared to So Cal surf scene in the 80s. Back in the 80s, there were days County Line was pumping 5+, on a weekday afternoon and not a soul was out at the point or north of the point. Rights, freight train, rail grabber lefts, fully barrelled. Those were the days. Back then Secos was considered crowded if over 15 guys were out in the line up. Angie Reno was the guy I wanted to meet at Malibu if you know what I mean. And rumor had it, Bob Dylan had guys that would squeeze people out of the water in the Colony area if Dylan was out in the water.
Surfers crack me up. They try to promote chill vibes, aloha mentality, unity, peace, etc.
YET, are the most elitist and clicky group ever. They run around like lil gang groups (not on my turf I’m a local! lol).
I get it needs rules, boundaries, etc.
it’s just ironic.
I thought surf was punk? I think you’re thinking of TV characters or long boarders maybe
No hes not. Its like that i am one@michaelmangan7963
No hes not. Its like that i am one@michaelmangan7963
@@michaelmangan7963surf punk? As punk as rock climbing
That happens everywhere there is a scarcity mindset. Malibu has 200 people in the water. Find some empty waves with your friends for good vibes
Isn’t this the same guy who said if anyone comes to his home break in Hawaii he’ll drop in on them every time because he’s a local and deserves it?? 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Surfers for you
Lmao do something about it chump
hes a typical jew
yea. your home, your spot. pretty sure that's why he was saying maybe he should go in the beginning.
Not really what he said… he said when people come to his home break and don’t have etiquette then locals will use localism as a tool keep order…. In other words you don’t take turns and think you are entitled to every wave with no turns then they are going to teach you by doing what you are doing to everyone else back to you. He never said he is just going to drop in on non locals every time and that since he is a local he deserves it. He said since they are the locals they need to keep order at their spot so it doesn’t turn into a Malibu situation. Skateparks work the same way, the asshole is the person who comes to the spot thinking they don’t need to share and causes issues that push the locals to resort to keeping order. No one owns the spot, but you can’t expected to go up in a spot and have no etiquette with no repercussions just because no one owned it…. If you are in the grocery store with a full cart and just decide to cut the whole line of people who have already been waiting then you are gonna piss everyone off…. It’s common sense, this is not much different other than the fact the person cutting typically does it multiple times before the locals finally say ok, no more of this prick. You have the idea of what localism is as all wrong. It isn’t bullying, if anything the stingy mf who thinks sharing doesn’t apply to him is the initial bully. I’m sure someone probably said something as well by the time everyone decides fuck it we are dropping in on him everytime. The person this happens to usually had a chance to realize what they were doing was frowned upon but continued anyways because “you don’t own the wave” “I can ride whatever one I want”. It’s simple take turns and you won’t be treated like a dick. Sharing is caring.
Surfers: the cyclists of the sea
Omg yes! Perfect analogy
Crying about localism when you do the same at pipe lol
This ain’t localism, it’s kookery
@@jetskisurferit’s the thing, just on different levels
Lmao this is hardly localism. It's a complete lack of surf etiquette
Haha could you imagine if thos edequette happened at a real wave like pipe. People would die everyday.
So cal surfers are the biggest cowards, no one left down there to regulate.
@@slayerj4637 those arent mutually exclusive, that's the point.
And they bring their surf etiquette wherever they travel… 👊🏽
You’re silly!
@@nickkirschner3719????
You never drop in on anyone at pipe, right?
Exactly. If this was pipeline, he would be dropping in on everyone that isnt a local. This is pure karma
No.
If it was pipe, he would be smoking ice
People rarely drop on people at pipe because it's dangerous for everyone. Instead they paddle around you and assume priority via localism.
Did you not tell the world that you would drop in on Strangers when they are surfing Pipeline? Maybe you get the same on a Break where you are the Stranger...
Boom exactly. There is an elitism that's a bit much with these guys.
Bro y'all know Malibu is a shit show and kooks dropping on everybody. He's just stating the obvious
People don't forget
Different animal entirely.
And that could have more harmful results than this wave.
"Go back to the Valley, man."
Valley go home!
malibu is the valley 😂
@@kookymode5153 hhahaahahah
Aww poor koa has to deal with localism when he's not the local 🤣🤣
Dropping in on the bloke when he's clearly got the wave isn't called localism...it's called being an entitled prick
@@MBRoa22 well they call it localism at pipe and koa will definitely to it to people.
@@dialysisdude1079 He dont snake people while they are up and riding, you can get killed at pipe doing that. Whats going on here is just moronic. Malikook at its finest
He literally has a video where he and Makua compete for how many people they can burn at Rockies. And yes, they drop in on many people already on the wave @@woodnbikes
@@dialysisdude1079 hey man just say you don’t understand surf etiquette. Stay in cali thanks
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a surfboarder not complain about something. Do y’all even like it?
surfer *
nice to see him get a taste of his own.
Main Character Syndrome
ab-so-fuckin-lutely, spoiled little bitch syndrome.
God forbid someone new tries to learn a sport you’re already good at. Maybe give them advice/tips in a friendly way instead of going full surf Karen?
Or go learn far far away from others until you are ready. And/ or watch the good surfers and learn, not put their life in danger. We get angry because dumb people hurt others duh
Maybe don't drop in on people?
Most breaks I’ve been to, the experienced surfers share the waves and follow etiquette and it’s pretty easy to spot the newbies. It’s a non-issue at most spots as you can just surf around them, and they’re too new/in survival mode to understand etiquette. You can teach the mediocre surfers proper etiquette so they don’t drop in on you, typically just takes one or two heads up and they get it.
With that said, Malibu, this spot is a joke. It is a great wave, but you just have way too many ppl there on a given day. It’s always madness.
@@Finntheagent that’s ridiculous. You do not learn shit from watching someone do a thing you need to try and fail and do it over many times. Have you never tried to learn a new skill/hobby? You sound like someone chronically online all day
@@kylehutchison4216 right on, I assumed this was the case 90% of the time realistically, most people with hundreds of hours in something are aware enough to tap a newbie on the shoulder and give some tips to help everyone involved have a better time.. the internet makes me forget that sometimes lol
Edit - only been to Malibu once and wasn’t to surf, but I can only imagine
Looks like Snapper on a quiet day 😂
It’s worse coming from a cooly kid
Basically. GC full of cultured surf people
Is it better if u go really early like 5 am?
Snapper is a shitshow of headwrecking boolshee-it
Hahaha but at your home you have priority because youre a local😂
Thought exactly the same 😂
Think of it this way you are skating a half pipe and 1 -2 people drop in on you that’s a complete dick move. He’s talking something along the lines of when a good wave comes locals get priority not a free for all everyone go at once.
Yeah cuz there's actually a lineup. Where do you see a priority or lineup anywhere in that video or Malibu.😂
How
I learnt at malibu which was kinda stupid but now im respected
Flipping each other off, calling beginners "Kooks", wanting to fight if someone is in their turf. Etc. Never seen such an immature and toxic sport
im literally about to sell my boards because i cant fuckin stand these rich little bitch crybaby surfers.
surfing has become joke-like everywhere even in Aus and NZ (spent half my life in each) any good break is swarmed as soon as there's a sniff of swell, since ~ 2008...then there's Bali: 2nd, 3rd rate waves packed with instagramming European gronks and gladiatorial yet not necessarily capable Brazilians
Like when I'm skiing, stay off my run until I"m at the bottom. The whole run is mine!
The same reason I stopped surfing back in the day. Not enough waves or room for everyone. My island, every beach every break has 100 people on it.
... says the Pipeline local ...
Soo you mean a surf spot that has actual rules and a line up???? 🤦
@@WM_904not rules. Etiquette. Which Malibu has none, which is the point
Spoken like a true kook...
@@Odhege8262
And pipeline hás etiquete? Locals surf almost all the waves. Pros the scraps. And nothing for the unknown
@@Odhege8262okay, well tell any Hawaiian born local that and I'm sure you'll get a different opinion, but that place is run by rules. Etiquette only gets you the ability to paddle out and sit in the lineup. Then you'll figure out what the rules are 🤙
Grew up surfing there in the early 80’s. Was mess then still a mess. Full moon surf was always fun.
Yes it was very fun full moon.. Malibu and Topanga
3 simple words “Don’t drop in”. I’ve been surfing for 42 years and stick by that unwritten rule!
'get into a fight' aka get beat up and sue like a typical rich NY jew
@@hyperboreanforeskin ouch that’s cold
@@FluffyAlpaca81 I'm sorry. i take it back. He's actually a rich Philadelphia jew. It's hilarious hearing a guy named 'rothman' talking about localism in Hawaii. Maybe he confused the beach sand for the sand in the desert.
taking out that first dude lol
That’s bc we don’t live in Hawaii where good waves are a dime a dozen. So we are forced to share. It’s not preferred; just life in so cal
You gotta share at Malibu unless your last name is Sarlo
Looking forthis comment! Alan definitely gets his share. So does Laird when it's bigger.
Sarlo will kick out for a select few
As a POP local in the early mid 70s I approve of this comment glad I moved to MAKAHA.
Last time I served First point Malibu was about 15 years ago and it was pretty good. Not too many people out.
Yeah now it's different.
Same with third point.
Depending where you are surfing culture can be the worst
San Diego was always pretty chill
I grew up a 45 min drive north of there and it’s crazy how much the surf culture changes. The Ventura/ LA county line (clowny line) is where it begins. Rincon is just as crowded but there is respect and awareness. I love the Yin and Yang of Malibu/ Rincon though and still drive down to get a few when a big south comes through ☯️
Surfers; chill vibes bruh, all about connecting to the surf and the ocean and just kind of like, being at peace bruh…
Also surfer; no! That’s MY wave! *has temper tantrum like petulant child*
Ofc he's gonna get mad, people can get hurt cuz of 💩 like that
Yeah homeboy, obviously you’re a kook. People can get seriously hurt out there when there’s idiots in the water. And you gonna fix my $800 surfboard when you take a chunk out of it? Because you don’t know what you’re doing? No you’re not. And that’s why people get beat up all the time over this kinda thing.
“The biggest donkeys on the planet, it’s crazy” hahaha….brah I nearly choked on my drink 😆 here on the Gold Coast we just start throwing hands immediately as they’re dropping in.
Ask him if his daddy still has nightmares about the “Corrupt WSL” every night. That’s why he started doing meth, he wanted to force himself to stay awake so he doesn’t have to deal with those scary dreams.
Let me dress like seal and go swimming in the ocean😬
When a surfer says they're going to get into a fight lol
Would pay to watch cocky KOA get pieced up by an average JOE hahahah ... he charges but his performance surfing is lackluster SMH i'm from Florida and he's about on my level but my cutback is way sicker jajajaj
Honestly you shouldn’t be complaining cause you surf the best waves in the world all the time. We can’t all be as lucky as you. If anything I hope you realize how blessed you are. Us non pros have to deal w shit like this at almost every break in Cali. Sadly people just don’t respect rules like they use to. Or most don’t even know them. They probably just buy a board and go out.
Everyone should have to pass a surfing etiquette test before they are allowed to surf in an actual lineup, with actual surfers🤷♂️ I used to point out to kooks and learners what the rules are. And dish out polite shaming and punishment to people that should know better. These days, it’s such a kookfest. You get lambasted by the whole lineup for trying to explain to people what the rules are and why they exist. All of a sudden, you😮the bad guy. Even though you’re the one getting repeatedly burnt by a bunch of kooks going straight ahead, falling off in your face, often kicking their board at you in the process. But somehow you’re the bad guy!!?? 🤷♂️ Talk about a role reversal! Kooks run the lineups now. Its a total joke. Don’t get me started on dads pushing their kids into waves straight in front of people already up and riding! 😮 I mean WTF!! If that’s who’s teaching you to surf, well then you’re fuc$ed basically from the start aren’t you?? 🤷♂️ And surf schools. They don’t teach etiquette at all!! She’s pretty gnarly out there being surrounded by so many kooks with no idea about anything!? 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️🥴
theres just not enough waves to go round ...
Surfer Bros are since of the most imitated ppl ever and make firefighters look humble and self effacing. saw my first ones in Lombok Indonesia, stuck up bitches in dude form
Sorry did you rent out the beach for your private event? Or is that a public beach that anyone can use?
Like anything surfing has rules. u can’t just drop in and take someone’s wave. Don’t just assume you know everything about surfing.
@@user-wy1dn5fu3m etiquette is made to be broken, i like making girls cry.
@@anthonywike8042 says the kook who has no idea. Maybe if you were actually ok at surfing you’d understand
@@user-wy1dn5fu3m I read this with a crying sniffling 8 year olds voice. lolol
@@anthonywike8042 The way that your carrying on makes u sound like an 8 yr old grow up
I surfed there 3 times in the late 90 this exact thing happened, never went back
shit man I saw a video from the 70s and it was the same lmfao
If anything, localism was way worse back then… more similar to Hawaiian
woah! theres people who wanna surf but suck and/or are new? wow! thats crazy! why cant everyone just be as good as you? chill vibes! aloha brother!
Those people shouldn’t be surfing Malibu. Plenty of places more suitable to newbs and people who suck.
Wow I like this guys surfing, but damn he seems insufferable
I am over surfing in LA. I feel the same way. I literally almost got into a fight for a wave. It’s so frustrating to be out there and having to deal with Kooks
Let's just call it like it is. Koa is just an average joe surfer on anything that's under 8' and not barreling. Like for real there are a half dozen guys at my local break that surf better than Koa in 6 foot surf. Now 10' barreling Pipe. That's a different story. The guy charges it!
Agreed his small wave game is non existent. Ugly style too. That said, he looks damn good at 10 ft Chopes
🤣🤣🤣 when there is kooks droping on you ! For sure you cant to nothing 😝😝😝 otherwise if he tries something He would fuck peoples up doin' a roller... i think People in that place need to learn priority in surfing
It’s sometimes not realistic to zoom down the line a football field away and hope everyone is spotting and waiting for you they want to surf and they aren’t going anywhere head out to pipeline or salt creek or something how could you even get to malibu anyways
The last name Rothman alone answers it all
A buddy of mine just purchased a 12 foot long board to deal with the lineup at NSB, Florida. The law of mass tonnage 😂
Your buddy is one of the kooks
Nsb is a fairly decent beach with great locals. As a bodyboarder we deal with kooks all the time . Bigger board just makes you a bigger ass 🕳
The bigger the board the bigger the kook
The “lineup” in NSB?
It’s fucking beach breaks dude. What lineup?
The truck version of this is why America is on its knees to the Saudis
Dude he wrecked that guy
“Stupid idiots trying to learn how to surf on my waves… uh huh”
Idiots hurt people doing dumb stuff
Dude crying about the same stuff he would do to an outsider lol gtfoh
It’s all of LA surf maybe even all of SoCal. Etiquette has gone. Dropping in is part of the culture.
these comments are ridiculous, doesn't matter where you are from, don't drop in front of another surfer, is that simple
2 guys dropped in on him, he took care of the first moron, 2nd one eventually moved off. Malibu is an excellent wave, but ruined by too many folks, and too much hostility.
I’m glad I got out of surfing before I got into it. Once incought my first wave and stood up and rode it out, I was done. Experience complete. Toxic culture.
Getting waves at 'Bu is it's own specific skill. When people realize that you're not the guy they can drop in on, and that you're making all of your waves, it tends to happen less.
Shouldnt be dropping in on anyone when they are up and riding...thats how fights start
@@woodnbikesI agree. However, there's people who don't adhere to the proper wave etiquette, as you can see in the video.
Since there's multiple points, and a few different take-offs within each point/section - on occasion one looks back and concludes that a given rider isn't going to make it past where you're at, or at least as far as you're about to, if you go... At that point, given the size and ruthlessness of the crowd, at some point pragmatic decisions get made.
If you're good at it - you can read the lineup, and know whos-who, and avoid letting a good wave go to waste. If you're not - you wind up ruining Koa's wave, as we saw here, or perhaps one of the many great surfers who ride there, more often.
I’m not a surfer, but I feel like to claim an entire wave for the length of 100 yards as your own… is a little selfish. Am I wrong??… I’m genuinely curious
As a dude that grew up surfing in the insanely packed Laguna Beach local spots that even the tourists managed to find, sometimes you gotta share a line, doubly so if it’s a long one. You’re not alone out there, we all need to actually be chill and watch for each other on both sides of the break. If you can’t handle being mellow, and your fellow stick-standers can’t rely on you to have their backs, maybe the ocean isn’t the best place for you.
Laguna high had surfing and scuba as electives 😂
@@cheryl9389 haha yep we had a scuba class that would learn in the pool across the street even back in 2003
Is Koa a local here?
No he’s from Hawaii born and raised
@@Billy23562 is he not showing respect to the local braddas?
It's not about him being a local...it's about proper wave etiquette. One person per wave. On these waves, Koa had priority.
Should have gotten into a fight instead. Might have made the 30 seconds yt short worth watching
I’ve been surfing for 50 years, but stopped surfing Malibu in ‘92. Nobody has respect and most are snakes. Basically everyone’s out there to make sure nobody gets a good ride.
“Im better than everyone here so I deserve all the waves”
Say what ya want about the north east, but winter swells were often sitting with 5 guys who are all... Fairly respectful.
It's to even things out. They get good surf and shit people, we get shit surf and good people
Surfers suck. They act like there's only one good wave a day instead of 100s.
A few years ago I watched Malibu on surf line. I thought there was something up with the cam because there was always multiple people on the same wave. I really thought that
Hot take, but taking the full length of a wave is crazy, you expect no one to drop in when they are that far to one side of you?
What ? That was dumb 🤣 obviously you don’t understand surf etiquette
@elijah-blunoa8898 obviously you've never surfed in the bu. There are no rules. That's like going to a scooter park and complaining about all the fucking scooters. That's like going to the beach and complaining about all the sand. Wake up early and get the best waves of the day. With the real locals. Or. Get ready to battle in the arena or barney's.
@@NoFace-ke9pc you just gotta rip 😂 then you will get your own. Kookz get cracks
@@elijah-blunoa8898 People only always use the term etiquette, when they want to make the point they themselves have a right of passage, even when there is no single rule to actually say this.
U showed a lot more patients then I would of .. 💪🤞
Pure chaos 😂
Why do surfers insist that they have hands like that?
Boggles my mind
Surfers in the 60s shared waves, today another surfers ruins the day.
imagine having the balls to burn Koa
why tf would this take balls?
Koa! Dont go all "Crybaby Rothman" like your big brother! Learn from his mistakes!
imagine snaking koa rothman
Malibu got the wrong vibe
every wave is a party wave in the BU
This is why you should go foiling the unsurfable waves far away from these vibes 🤙
Glad I'm from a Land Down Under! Leave the Big Smoke behind for deserted beaches & breaks. No worries, except the Great Whites...
I wish I had a wave, on which I could start to discuss, whose wave this is right now.🤣
Pro Surfer thinks he’s entitled to waves even when he’s away from home*
People don't usually drop on someone at pipe because it's dangerous for everyone. Instead, they paddle around you and assume priority. If you respect that long enough, they'll let you have one. What we see here is just a comeplete barnyard.
We are on this beautiful planet getting to play in the water TOGETHER. Embrace others with love and if they don’t give it back to you then pity them for not being able to see that
The only person who can give you peace is yourself.
He’s a pro I give respect to that and good surfers too. If a pro is on a wave I won’t snake him.
etiquette is critical, if you drop in, you deserve to get regulated, but the only real solution is manners.
Surfers = Sea Karens
This is symbolic of Californians that move to Hawaii
Its Malibu what do you expect 😂
I'd probably go in front of Koa at Malibu just because of his dad.
That must suck to share the ocean ....
Surfing looks stressful.
It’s for kids who weren’t athletic enough to play a team sport.
@@wrench9103 probably the dumbest comment I’ve seen all day
@@wrench9103lol you have to be more athletic to surf than any high school sport, and I’m saying that as someone who played wrestling, football, tennis and basketball
@@wrench9103just admit you’ve never been in the ocean before
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd it's not more athletic. It's a different type of athletic
Love it 😂 your not at pipe ! What did you think was going to happen lol
Why I wake up at before anyones even in the water
That was my approach to riding the moto in the canyons. It was so great. The only thing I miss after moving away.
The funny thing is that young man is one of the cool ,calm, always smiling one of the Nicest kids I knew growing up on the North Shore! An I grew up with his older brother. All Good Hawaiian!! 🤙🏽
Similar to surfing film Suddenly last Summer..
Gotten some awesome waves at Malibu but it's usually pretty nuts. Thanks Koa.
Das what happens when no one regulates the zones.
You can expect that to happen at Malibu, just like I could expect it to happen at Pipe or Rockies. Strange to let it upset you.
Etiquette has worked for me the world over… Unless there’s snakes in the lineup that simply don’t want you on “their” wave..
Surfers: "Absolutely no room on a wave to have 2 people.."
Selfish People ruin everything.
koa
Why are all surfers babies?
I started surfing in my 20’s when I was stationed at Pearl Harbor. The difference between Cali surfers and Hawaiian surfers is that Hawaiians localize their beaches. You don’t get haoles dropping in on your wave unless they want some respect beaten into them. I was lucky enough to have an older surfer, who realized I was just learning, to teach me the etiquette of surfing and tuning and tweaking what I was doing. I’ll take Hawaii over Cali anyday
simp
The ocean is fucking 70% of the planet. That beach is like 30 miles long, go find somewhere else to splash around if you don’t want to be around people
Yeah, the best surfing spots are in the middle of the ocean
My friend was born in a VW bus van about 35 years ago IN THE PARKING LOT at First pointe Malibu.
He's lived there his whole life and he and his brothers are locals there, grew up surfing first point second point, places like Zuma.. They live right up the street.
Anyway, we used to surf Malibu together and he told me that this is how you surf Malibu...
A. You have to share waves and Malibu.
B. You have to be willing to fight for your waves at Malibu.
C. The way he and his brothers would do it is they just dropping on fools so the brother could get the wave. Like blocking.
But that's how you do it at Malibu.
We were County Line locals. My best friend's brother, Big Ray Gann owned the Line Shack and Pacific Visions surf shop built onto the burger store across from Neptunes Net. Those were heady days and there was no better time or place in the world compared to So Cal surf scene in the 80s.
Back in the 80s, there were days County Line was pumping 5+, on a weekday afternoon and not a soul was out at the point or north of the point. Rights, freight train, rail grabber lefts, fully barrelled. Those were the days. Back then Secos was considered crowded if over 15 guys were out in the line up.
Angie Reno was the guy I wanted to meet at Malibu if you know what I mean. And rumor had it, Bob Dylan had guys that would squeeze people out of the water in the Colony area if Dylan was out in the water.
@@johnbasiglone1219 County line still one of my favorites. If I had to go surf just one day, I might go there.
When is Malibu popping off this hard, what da fock