Congrats on the kid as well! And thank you for picking the manual version- highly tempting to pickup instead of the automatic. Except no 6 foot bed in manual…
Excellent video. You gave me all the info needed to make an intelligent decision. Go with your instincts. Pick a vehicle that is interesting and intriguing for you. It will then be a comprehensive evaluation. Good luck in the future.
As someone cross shopping a 3rd Gen and this, in basically the same main specs - OR, MT & color. Keep it! It will def help with my decision in a yr or so.
Don’t know where you’re located but any chance of driving it in the snow? I’d be very interested in your style of review combined with the manual transmission in winter conditions.
How would you compare the Bronco to your Taco? I really like everything about the manual Bronco but am getting a little tired of the convertible aspect and miss having a truck bed. I owned a manual 3rd gen Taco and never really loved the powertrain or seating position but sounds like those both are improved.
Great question Jacob. The Bronco is a slightly more numb experience with a better infotainment system. The tacoma, in my opinion as someone who has owned both, has better steering and transmission feel with more torque. The real pro with the Bronco is price, the Tacoma still is 40+ with a manual, where you can find used Broncos for
Interested in getting a manual. Is it actually fun to drive ? I had a jku 6 speed and it was still fun to drive I know it's not a high end car but 90% of the reason I would get a 4 banger truck is because of the option for stick. Is it any fun in spirited driving situations ?
The manual transmission itself is quite good. I created another video on my channel showcasing the feel of it and my thoughts but at a high level I quite enjoy it. The clutch is perfectly weighted, the throws, while long, are quite nice and direct, and the turbo noises make for a good time. You wont hoon this car in corners or on a backroad, but it makes the mundane engaging.
@@MoneyShift awesome thank you! Very tempting purchase for the dd/ weekend warrior. Hoping it can curve my desire of midlife crisis sports car.. Something about the manuals in the jeeps, and old school pickups
I would like to hear someone talk about the potential financial difference of owning a turbo vs NA. I understand that a turbocharged engine on average won’t last as long as a non turbo without having problems. But the real question, that I see absolutely nobody talk about, is what is the cost? If a new turbo costs let’s say $1500, and needs to be replaced after 100-150,000 miles, is that really so bad? $1500 today is nothing more than a few tanks of gas.
Since its stated that the motor has been detuned on the manual transmission, how much Hp/Tq does one lose with the manual transmission vs the automatic transmission?
So you saying the instrument cluster isn’t dimmable and same with the center screen. That stinks, man thats alot of light n a guys face driving at night. Nice video though, i really liked your reveiw on the 6speed manual. For future content i would suggest showing how well a 4x8 of plywood fits n the bed.
I am working on trying to secure a Frontier to compare soon. To be frank I even considered trading my Tacoma in just to get some quality Frontier time haha.
In the last few days I test drove a 24 bronco and tacoma both manuals , I have the exact opposite opinion of both , the bronco shifted a lot smoother and with way less rev hang that made it a pleasure and the tacoma a pain in the butt waiting for rpm’s to drop a bit , and the clutch catch point on the bronco was 1/2 way up from clutch pushed to floor and the tacoma at the very top , hated the Tacoma manual , wouldn’t buy it
First thing I do after starting my truck is disabled all that 🤣.. hit the traction control button hold it down for 3 seconds and it will shut all that driving assist off. Other than that I love my 4th gen.. 5k plus miles 👍🏼. More miles I put seems like everything is finaly settling and getting road warrior..
These motors have bin in Lexus since 2016 they have bin super reliable so it probably will be just as reliable in this truck. More reliable then any other truck new you would wanna get
Goood call out! I was thinking of going this direction for a direct comparison, but what scares me about the Frontier is how hard it would be to then offload afterwards without taking a bath. I pay for these cars on my own, so buying cars with good residual is very helpful to me, as I dont really make the big bucks doing these videos haha.
@@MoneyShift It's going to depend on that up front deal. I think if you got $18,000 off MSRP considering the pro4x is already the cheapest in class, it won't be that hard to offload. but you're right there's always a gamble with Nissan and resale. Yeah I don't think you're going to make much on the views but it is the only one in the midsize that's not turbocharged and that matters to A LOT of people and they've seen a lot of sales come up so it'd be nice to see is the new turbocharged engines better than normally aspirated. It would also be nice to see if you've done towing comparisons between the two what you're really giving up because I don't think you're going to see much in daily driving because they both make all around 300 horsepower I think you're going to see it when you're towing with the lack of torque.
We appreciate you reviewing / owning the manual.
Congrats on the kid as well! And thank you for picking the manual version- highly tempting to pickup instead of the automatic. Except no 6 foot bed in manual…
Excellent video. You gave me all the info needed to make an intelligent decision. Go with your instincts. Pick a vehicle that is interesting and intriguing for you. It will then be a comprehensive evaluation. Good luck in the future.
This comment brought me immense levels of joy.
Thank you for it, and hope to see you in the comments in future videos.
As someone cross shopping a 3rd Gen and this, in basically the same main specs - OR, MT & color. Keep it! It will def help with my decision in a yr or so.
Thanks for the advice, maybe we will see you in the comments when you make your decision!
Keep that manual Tacoma!! I am very interested in how it holds up. How has the rev hang been? Do you know if it is worse than the 3rd gen Tacoma?
*congratulations* ❤🎉
I wish I could figure out how to turn of the screen with one button push.
Don’t know where you’re located but any chance of driving it in the snow? I’d be very interested in your style of review combined with the manual transmission in winter conditions.
could you tow with your tacoma. be interesting to see what you think about towing with a manual
Like everything an extra feature an extra thing to fix that easy. The questipn is do i need it to have turbo i bet i adds some extra time will tell.
Congrats and appreciate the video
Towing videos would be interesting there aren’t many done with manual Tacoma.
How would you compare the Bronco to your Taco? I really like everything about the manual Bronco but am getting a little tired of the convertible aspect and miss having a truck bed. I owned a manual 3rd gen Taco and never really loved the powertrain or seating position but sounds like those both are improved.
Great question Jacob.
The Bronco is a slightly more numb experience with a better infotainment system. The tacoma, in my opinion as someone who has owned both, has better steering and transmission feel with more torque.
The real pro with the Bronco is price, the Tacoma still is 40+ with a manual, where you can find used Broncos for
Congrats on the Kid. It's the best thing.
Interested in getting a manual. Is it actually fun to drive ? I had a jku 6 speed and it was still fun to drive
I know it's not a high end car but 90% of the reason I would get a 4 banger truck is because of the option for stick.
Is it any fun in spirited driving situations ?
The manual transmission itself is quite good. I created another video on my channel showcasing the feel of it and my thoughts but at a high level I quite enjoy it. The clutch is perfectly weighted, the throws, while long, are quite nice and direct, and the turbo noises make for a good time.
You wont hoon this car in corners or on a backroad, but it makes the mundane engaging.
@@MoneyShift awesome thank you! Very tempting purchase for the dd/ weekend warrior. Hoping it can curve my desire of midlife crisis sports car.. Something about the manuals in the jeeps, and old school pickups
I would like to hear someone talk about the potential financial difference of owning a turbo vs NA. I understand that a turbocharged engine on average won’t last as long as a non turbo without having problems. But the real question, that I see absolutely nobody talk about, is what is the cost? If a new turbo costs let’s say $1500, and needs to be replaced after 100-150,000 miles, is that really so bad? $1500 today is nothing more than a few tanks of gas.
1500 lol ya ok prob 5000 change the oil every 3-5k not 10k it will last longer
Since its stated that the motor has been detuned on the manual transmission, how much Hp/Tq does one lose with the manual transmission vs the automatic transmission?
Great question Benny
Automatic: 278HP / 317TQ
Manual: 270HP/310TQ
So a difference of 8 HP and 7 TQ.
@@MoneyShift Have you driven both to notice the difference?
They behave VERY similarly. Only real difference you notice is the higher redline on the automatic
So you saying the instrument cluster isn’t dimmable and same with the center screen.
That stinks, man thats alot of light n a guys face driving at night.
Nice video though, i really liked your reveiw on the 6speed manual.
For future content i would suggest showing how well a 4x8 of plywood fits n the bed.
It is dimmable, I’ve got mine on the lowest setting which is nice during all times
Love this being a manual!
Agreed!
I would like to see the Tundra or the Frontier tested and compared to the Tacoma
I am working on trying to secure a Frontier to compare soon. To be frank I even considered trading my Tacoma in just to get some quality Frontier time haha.
In the last few days I test drove a 24 bronco
and tacoma both manuals , I have the exact opposite opinion of both , the bronco shifted a lot smoother and with way less rev hang that made it a pleasure and the tacoma a pain in the butt waiting for rpm’s to drop a bit , and the clutch catch point on the bronco was 1/2 way up from clutch pushed to floor and the tacoma at the very top , hated the Tacoma manual , wouldn’t buy it
Congrats on the sex! Have you gone over the tech? Specially, how adaptive cruise, emergency braking and whatnot work with a manual?
First thing I do after starting my truck is disabled all that 🤣.. hit the traction control button hold it down for 3 seconds and it will shut all that driving assist off. Other than that I love my 4th gen.. 5k plus miles 👍🏼. More miles I put seems like everything is finaly settling and getting road warrior..
I have! Check my manual transmission review!
I love how people think turbos are like this new thing for engines and will just die after so long.
TRUTH
By the way congratulations on the youngster
I want toyota to make comercial vans
You say listen to the turbo, then you talk over the engine. Focus!
The Greek in me struggles at times
Toyota tacoma para Marco Aurelio
Nissan frontier proX
Too expensive and no manual option
Nope
Better trade that garbage in before the turbo goes out $$$$$$
Been driving an sti for 12yrs on same tubo...not a single problem. And i trust toyota waay more than subaru
My 2.0L turbo in my ford fusion just hit 200k miles no issues
These motors have bin in Lexus since 2016 they have bin super reliable so it probably will be just as reliable in this truck. More reliable then any other truck new you would wanna get
If you trade go Frontier Pro 4X. CRAZY deals to be had 15-18k off MSRP WITH low interest financing!
Goood call out! I was thinking of going this direction for a direct comparison, but what scares me about the Frontier is how hard it would be to then offload afterwards without taking a bath.
I pay for these cars on my own, so buying cars with good residual is very helpful to me, as I dont really make the big bucks doing these videos haha.
@@MoneyShift It's going to depend on that up front deal.
I think if you got $18,000 off MSRP considering the pro4x is already the cheapest in class, it won't be that hard to offload.
but you're right there's always a gamble with Nissan and resale.
Yeah I don't think you're going to make much on the views but it is the only one in the midsize that's not turbocharged and that matters to A LOT of people and they've seen a lot of sales come up
so it'd be nice to see is the new turbocharged engines better than normally aspirated.
It would also be nice to see if you've done towing comparisons between the two what you're really giving up because I don't think you're going to see much in daily driving because they both make all around 300 horsepower I think you're going to see it when you're towing with the lack of torque.