How do Paradigms Explain the Creation & Evolution Debate? - Dr. Paul Nelson
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2020
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Paul Nelson compares the conventional paradigm with the historical Genesis paradigm, then discusses the importance of intelligent design, genetics, and language.
After Dr. Nelson received his BA in philosophy with a minor in evolutionary biology from the University of Pittsburgh, he entered the University of Chicago, where he received his PhD (1998) in the philosophy of biology and evolutionary theory. He is a philosopher of biology who has been involved in the intelligent design debate internationally for over two decades. He is currently a Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute and Adjunct Professor in the Master of Arts Program in Science & Religion at Biola University.
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The more I am exposed to the intricacies of a living cell and the cosmos the more I stare in wonder at the knowledge of God, throw in time and God's interaction with us and I see myself as an ant crawling across a super computer. Then to know I am incapable of even grasping a fraction of the whole realm of the physical, because I don't have the receptors to contemplate the unseen physical, I am blown away. Then add to that, the unseen spiritual, ..... How can I even grasp the concept of my Creator?
I guess worship and praise to His glory can be my only response, yet even that seems so inadequate.
Psalm 8:3-4: "When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"
Carl Jones - Exactly! Well said.
All that and then we have Miracles and wonders like the Eucharistic Miracles or the shroud of Turin etc.. God has shown many many times his power to work outside of our knowledge of natural laws.
@@hansdemos6510 Christ is the Logos of all things and knowing opens your eyes to the truth of creation and only then can you appreciate the majesty of the Lord's creation
@@hansdemos6510 faith is not measurable as it is the soul conversing with its creator
Faith comes from God to a soul open to the truth
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Best sermon I've heard in years.
Great videos, one of the most well presented cases for creationism. Thank you for your work, it's a huge blessing!
What if there is a 3rd paradigm largely ignored by most people? What if there was a spiritual creation prior to the physical creation? What if the spiritual creation took 7,000 years but we do not know how long the physical creation took? What if the Garden of Eden was the Genesis from which all plants and animals filled the whole earth?
In Genesis chapter 1 we read about the creation of the earth and then in Genesis chapter 2 it talks of God finishing up his creation and then it says in Genesis 2:5 that “every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.” Of course plants need to grow before animals can live and it needs to rain fresh water in order for most plants to live. Then in Genesis 2:7-8 it says that God formed man from the dust of the earth and then he planted a garden eastward in Eden where he placed the man then plants and animals were formed. From the bible we know the history of the earth from the time that Adam and Eve were placed in the Garden of Eden but before that time we do not know how long God took to form the physical earth nor do we know how long they were in the garden before the Fall of Man.
There are many other clues of a spiritual creation in the bible which include:
• Num. 16:22 God of the spirits of all flesh,
• Eccl. 12:7 the spirit shall return unto God who gave it,
• Jer. 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee
• Eph. 1:4 chosen us in him before the foundation of the earth
• Jude 1:6 Angels which kept not their first estate (Satan)
• James 2:26 body without the spirit is dead,
What verse (s)?
This discussion if vital for understanding the issues! Thank you once again.
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There are indeed paradigm elements to each.
Science (which absolutely does include the Theory of Evolution) says: Evidence rules- and even if we don't like it, we go where the evidence takes us.
Creationism paradigm (which is absolutely unrelated to science) says: We already know the answer. So when evidence competes with our answer, we will ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist or speak untruth about it.
I look at creation & I'm in AWE of The One who created it about 6,000 yrs. ago. (the beauty of the formations of stars in the heavens, the variety of all animal and plant life and how each is designed to survive). Yet w/all my heart I believe what we see w/our eyes in the heavens and on the earth does not even scratch the surface of God's wisdom, power, love, grace, & mercy. As both of you pointed out that the programs for software that humans design does not even come close to the program information in DNA. Give praise and honor to HIM, who lives forever. AMEN ! ...I look forward to an eternity of learning HIS ways.
The only answer I can give you comes from Scripture (The Word of GOD). "Those who wait upon The Lord will not be ashamed"...."Let GOD always be truthful & every man a liar"...."Heaven & earth will pass away but MY WORD will not pass away"...."In the last days many will mock & scoff at Creation, The World Wide Flood of Noah's Day, & the return of Jesus Christ"..."The Lord longs for all to repent & call upon HIM to be saved"...Even now in this late hour HE desires to show MERCY, (repent: 2 Greek words- "to think again"). It's not to late to believe Jesus Christ... BUT time is very short....Why walk away from so great a Salvation ? PLEASE, I once thought as you & HE showed me mercy...Please seek life
@tsimahei Thanks for the heads up my friend. I was hoping he might rethink "his faith in his religion where life has no meaning". For now I'll just wipe the dust off of my feet and travel on to the next person that our Savior might send me to who will ask me "the reason for my faith in The TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ". Hope we meet soon. Until then, Go With God...
@@billperez1141 You are a fool, the bible was written by a bunch of old men
@@harrybond007 OH Well been called worse. I forgive you. Remember Jesus Christ loves, and willingly died for you also.
hehe I've never seen "Jurassic Park" and it turned up on Netflix, so I tried to watch it. After just a few minutes I decided, "I know WAY too much for this to be fun!"
the paradigms channel!
Amen
19:56 can you please point us to the study of the German team showing that fortran less complex than yeast chromosome? This sounds very interesting.
Also, you are a witness to the things in your own life, like your experience of happiness, love, joy, human connectedness, prophetic dreams, synchronicities, righteousness, emotional control, mental control, justice, morality, anger, hatred, jealousy, revenge, pain, emotional instability, mental instability, human attack, demonic attack, death etc.
0:47 I wondered why you frequently wear an Auburn hat. Now I know. By the way, RTR!!
Faith makes the visible evidence of the invisible, visible.
Unbelief makes the visible evidence of the invisible, invisible.
Like letters on the page of a book; the mass and substance of a book is the paper, but it's not a book without words on it. The words on the pages can be copied, reprinted and translated into different media, far away from the original book.
Humans have been gifted with amazing intelligence and creativity. We can look at the computers that took up the whole room and, in less than a century, are tiny marvels we can purchase and carry in our pockets. And that’s not to mention all of the astounding inventions that surround us today. But all of these are like baby toys when we compare them to God’s creation.
Notice how calm, informed persons dialogue. Compare the ugly segments on new Protestant theology.
All I can say is Awesome... Our God is awesome!
At one time during evolution, modern man was perhaps down to under 2,000 people in Africa. Our species was the lucky one to survive. Undoubtedly there existed superior species to us but they were just unlucky.
If an explosion created everything out of nothing, why can't we create any single thing out of nothing?
How did consciousness come into existence? - Through unconscious origins?
@@logicalatheist1065 Big bang = virtually nothing exploded - and created everything.
Big bang = absence of consciousness blossomed - and created consciousness.
Repent.
@@logicalatheist1065 I did not claim the the big bang "was created". Those are your words.
The world is watching and can read our words. Is your best logic based on emotional retaliations?
Atheism is a far more hard-core religion than creation, and this video proves it.
Continuing to ramble on in emotional responses with no substance is further demonstration of this fact.
@@logicalatheist1065 "Simply not defined" = we refuse to consider the possibility of a Creator because that goes against our religion and lusts.
@@logicalatheist1065 Jim Borowy nailed it - "When you boil it down. the reason "scientists" won't allow the consideration of a God is because they don't want to admit that there are rules for their behavior that they don't want to obey!"
@tsimahei The Creator does not rely on anything material to create anything out of nothing. Jesus Christ is not merely energy; He is God.
'.... it all comes down to paradigms, right?' 'Yeah, paradigms.' ; ) it ALL comes down to $$.
All I can say is - the term "Liar For Jesus" was coined for a good reason.
Comparing computer history to creation? OMG, help!
I think you missed the point.
@tsimahei It was creationists that discovered and developed evolution in fact. Leave your ignorance at the door.
Paradigms are interesting. However, reality intrudes. If you jump off a 10 storey building, I don't care what your assumptions are, or which paradigm you prefer, It's going to hurt when you hit the sidewalk. And that is the problem with all this talk of paradigms and assumptions. Assumptions and paradigms do not affect realtiy. Reality still exists, and it doesn't care what you think. The reason creationists use this paradigm silliness is because in order for their "paradigm" to be accepted, they must convince people to deny reality.
Satan does not want us to know the truth and uses people to deviate us!
We know that Stonehenge was built by an intelligent mind......... In the 1920's!!
??? Isn't it dated about 3000 BC?
It’s The 21st century, you stand in a computer museum and negate the same science that allowed to build the computers you are standing in front of. Or on which day did god create the computer.? Could not find it in the Bible.
@tsimahei Athiesm drives the thinkers out? Sorry but the answer for creationist is always god.
@tsimahei claims you must be repeating to yourself, these are actually the only videos I encounter flat earthers.
and nice lol lets just bring up some of the genocide led by Christian ruled countries too ..Basically all of Africa except Ethiopia🇪🇹 Tried taking india, Philippines, Myanmar, north america & most of South America. They basically tried to rule the world (mostly helpess countries) and eachother & failed in several attempts, probably busy trying to regain the holy land. But Really, Look at the treaty of tordesilla, and other treaties they had to sign to give up countries after failed attacks like in the 7 years war. God doesn't mind slavery either (with Leviticus 25:44-47 & Exodus 21:20-21) so if yall couldve just got along and defeated the athiest Russians, chinese etc then the world would be yours. Could barely handle the Vietnamese & Koreans though, and they didn't have advanced warships or plains. Rlly just guns, grenades & mines.
Nothing comes from nothing there for creation is in reality the only way plane and simple.
@Jason Jennings Well with out a creator to make it every thing it would have to come from nothing right and nothing comes from nothing there for there has to be a creator.
@Jason Jennings What proof something cant just be there and there was no big bang .The bible tell us who the creator is.
OK. Thanks for not saying all of this happened in less than 10,000 years.
It didn't "happen" in less than 10,000 years. It was created by an all-powerful Creator in less than 10,000 years.
@@dooglitas - Correct.
@@dooglitas "happen" was not the key point. Why do you believe the YEC perspective?
@@cptrikester2671 On the contrary, "happen" vs. "created" is exactly the key point. Did those things just "happen," or were they brought about by an all-powerful Creator? If they just "happened," there is not enough time in all eternity to bring about the universe that we have and all the abundance of life on earth. If an almighty Creator brought it about, then time is of no importance to Him. Why do I believe in YEC? There are many reasons. First, I freely admit that I believe the biblical creation account to be true and that it means exactly what it says.
However, I also believe it because I have been investigating this issue for many years and believe that the evidence for a younger earth is much stronger than the evidence to the contrary. The methods used to date ages of things like rocks, fossils, etc., are all flawed and based upon assumptions that cannot be validated. The entire idea of an old earth became established in mainstream "science" long before any of those dating methods were developed. The uniformitarian geological paradigm was formulated completely out of speculation. It is a philosophical paradigm, not science.
Evolution, likewise, was formulated at a time when very little was known about living organisms or the enormous complexity of life. Nothing at all was known about DNA or proteins, and little was known abut microbiology. What we know now strongly indicates that life could not possibly have come about from random natural processes from non-living matter. We now also know that there is no natural process that can account for the enormous amount of new genetic information that would have been necessary for macro-evolution to have happened. All the real evidence points to a Creator of unimaginable power and intelligence.
@@dooglitas It happened because it was created. No argument.
My point was the 10000 years. I will read the rest of your dogma later.
Paradigmi, non PARADISI
this world is merely a perception of what God the heavenly father of the bible wanted us to perceive
So well said.
His original purpose never changed. He intended a peaceful paradise filled with perfect human children that never got old and died. They were to follow his guidance. Rebellion brought suffering and chaos to earth, plus raised a universal issue that is being resolved over time. Satan has been proved a liar. Jesus repurchased what Adam lost for his descendants. Bible chronology tells us that in this generation the satanic system of things is in its very last days, which is why conditions are so bad. Thankfully, the good news is the very bright near future God promises. Luke 21, Mathew 24; 2 Timothy 3: 1-5, Daniel 2:44, Psalms 37, Isaiah 35, Revelation 21:3-5
Welcome to Presuppositional Apologetics 101
@tsimahei do you know what Presuppositional apologetics is?
@tsimahei Presuppositional apologetics is a Christian methodology of apologetics. I think you're confused. Watch "How to Answer the Fool" on RUclips to get an idea. Or Dr. Jason Lisles lecture "Ultimate Proof of Creation".
It is not about evidence but about fallen humans and innately enemies of God. The natural person hates God and does not want to be held accountable. Peace.
True, but when a person accepts Christ, their eyes are opened to so many things, and if they humble themselves sufficiently to believe God for things other than just their salvation, they can begin to believe what He has said and done. Our minds need renewing, we have accepted so much error before we were saved that we need to be reeducated.
Yeah i see people asserting that a lot, but they can never explain it beyond an assertion. Gotta remember, according to the logic outlined in the bible, if god is all knowing, all seeing, and created everyone as well as the rules, then he also created people specifically so they would go to hell, or knowing they would make choices that would send them there before they were created.
@@nunyabisnass1141 You are right God is the Creator of all people, that He knows if people will ever trust in the provision He has made for them, that the vast majority will go to eternal suffering in hell. He also knows that no matter what He does, people will still reject Him. People in hell will still be cursing Him, despite all He has done for them. Those people who refuse to come to Him will deserve every moment of their anguish.
It doesn't have to be that way for you, if you decide to trust Him, He will receive you.
@@nunyabisnass1141 Jesus tells us in Hell people will be weeping and gnashing their teeth ( in anger) still blaming God and everything else rather than themselves for their rejection of Him and His Salvation found in Jesus alone.
@@lc-mschristian5717 that only applies to those that would believe their was a jesus.
Jesus Christ said about two paths. One going through a narrow gate, and the other a wide path, which the wide path leads to destruction.
Sigh...this was utter trash. I'm sorry but if you have to lean into your position bybpoisoning the well with a personal conotative definition of a word that doesn't exist in any wide spread dictionary, then you're deluded or lying. Please, someone trynto find the definition he used and the one noted noted on the screen in a dictionary. Then try to cross reference it in miltipke independent sources. Youll be lucky to find two. Not everything they said was wrong, but enough is that it would take well over an hour and a huge wall of text just to address a handful of the wrong things they did say. I just don't habe thay kind of energy tonight.
The usual bollacks saying there are 2 paradigms when there is only 1 and the other hopes to be described as if it is a competing or alternative paradigm whereas it is really just a fairy tale and wishful thinking ! This fairy tale has held back scientific progress for centuries ! I can’t watch any more bye !
Creation or Evolution--all roads lead to Rome (:
This is not a sincere discussion. They are pretending to present the paradigm when they are actually just presenting the creationist's story. If there is a god, then neither one should have had to resort to deceitful tactics. Just because science does not have the answer of how the first cell occurred does not mean the default position is god. A creationist and a scientist have to prove their theory using demonstrable evidence. So far all of the physical evidence is stacked on the science side with the creationists not being able to provide one single piece of demonstrable evidence.