Seriously, I can't quite understand how there are people like (not trying to offend, believe it or not lmao). I, like many others, have a dream a car, if and when I end up buying one, I would do hours of research probaly for more than one day, I can't understand how someone can be sold so easily.
@@chilael6892 Hello, thank you for your reply! I agree with your view on doing research before buying things. In this case I've done most of my research on other products and haven't found something that ticks all the boxes in the price range I was looking for. However, I would argue that this review is very thorough and serves as a quite solid base for research, especially since these are niche products with limited availability of information and real life access. But at the end what I think actually convinced me was to see Barry's excitement, even though he tries to hide it.
I like the fact that the bodnar board is elevated so we can do some adjustments to the brake force without removing the board. Shows All4sim really put a lot of thoughts and consideration to their design
18:03 Barry, the term is “eccentric” bolt or washer. Great content! It super fun seeing the sim racing world from the auto racing perspective. In fact the only reason I know it’s called an eccentric is because it’s what’s typically used to adjust camber on the alignment.
@@chilael6892 I'm a native speaker. Seems to be taught as the "past participle" as this website lists it: www.linguasorb.com/english/verbs/most-common-verbs/ So while simple past tense would be "he [simple past verb]" or something, for the perfect tense equivalent like you described, that would go "nobody has ever [past participle verb] before." So nobody has ever [been, had, done, said, known, taken, tried, etc.] before." I don't know of a set rule that dictates when it's the same as the simple past or not
Shipped to the United States, these MECA Pedals full kit is $891. The HE Sprint full kit with base plate is $787. This would make them direct competitors. Overall, which is the better all around pedal set in your opinion?
Also, I don't think Barry talks much about the software side of things. It would be great to see a comparison- seems like the HE Sprints have some pretty sophisticated SW profile/curve adjustments that can be made.
This is a great point and comparison. The sim gear from the Czech Republic is not only widely available, it tents to be far less money/better bang for your buck (aiologs is a good example) to convince the average user to "take a chance" on them. I would have thought that this company would try to pretty heavily undercut the HE pedal set in a way to try to earn business, and since they're not I would have a very difficult time choosing these pedals.. That said, when it comes to bang for the buck,I really love my PT-2 pedals which are 90% as good as the HE's, half the price and made in USA.
Can you make a video or post a chart of ranking pedals sets by price, functionality and performance? You review a lot of great products but we don’t know how they stack up to the competition or if it’s worth spending that extra money for the next level up pedals. Thank you
"yeah they do a very good job. in fact... uh... better than some of the better known ones actually I think at that price point" Ooohhh Barry, shots fired! I'm sure HE will take note.
@@Tintop I know. That's my point. All the designs will become more derivative. People are comparing these pedals with HE Sprints, not with HE Pros. With the weight and baseplate they equate it with quality. I think HE weren't trying to make heavy pedals with a heavy baseplate for the Sprints, but some people can't think logically, they just see something that looks heavier and stronger and assume it is better.
Awesome review as always. I have the HE Sprint pedals (which are great), but these Meca pedals look the business! Btw. I need to get myself some Sim Racing Garage t-shirts.
By seeing this review I am once again proud that I come from Czech republic ❤️ 🇨🇿 Super práce hoši, super konkurence high end pedálům 👍🏼 jen si je nemůžu dovolit 😀
Hi Barry, thanks for a thorough review as always. During the driving segement, it looks like the brake durometers deflect at an angle under load and maybe even bottom out the aluminum cups against each other at high load. What's your feeling on this and do you think it will affect either consistency on the brake feel or longevity of the spacers?
I've got no complaints with my Sprints. I've only had one issue so far. My brake pedal went crazy on Sunday after a year of use... Emailed them right away they are sending me out an entire brake pedal. Ill have It Thursday morning here in the US. From what they told me they made a minor change to how they mount the load cell. I'm guessing they had others with my same issue. I got my set of pedals about as soon as you could get them last year so I'm sure I got an early serial #. Any company that will stand behind their product and replace it asap when it breaks gets my business. These pedals do seem nice. I do see a lot of similarities to the Sprints design.
@@rccrazy30 Exactly this ! Not in a position atm to spend cash on a higher-end rig atm, but if I were, both Simlab and Heusinkveld would get my bussiness. Both their products and support are top notch. Added bonus for me, I would be supporting "local produce". ;)
Heusinkveld have great customer service though. I would LOVE to have some HE Sprints. There will always be new gear coming out. I think I would choose the HE and DIY a heavy baseplate for them.
damn barry- my credit card and wife hate you- but my bank and myself love u. i don't even need new pedals- i ve got one- and another on order- but now i want these too- just to u know- have a set on standby! im hooked on the stuff cos of you!
I was about to order a set of the new HPP JBV pedals. Now I’m not so sure. The thing that I really want is the good clutch feel. The HPP uses a cam for realistic feel. These use a “tipping cradle” to give you that friction point feel. I think these pedals are a no brained compared to the new HPP pedals. Way more adjustments for each pedal, load cells for each pedal and half the price.
Just a thought, but you can buy the HE Ultimate pedal as a single unit - though I have no idea about how to configure different brands together in terms of software, or if that is possible. www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/heusinkveld-engineering-sim-pedals-ultimate-1397108/
You mention at 26:54 that you’ve found “one brake pedal combination” that makes it feel like you want in feedback. Care to share what brake pedal combo that is?
Great review Barry - as allways... I have a general question of your "driving style" - mentioned this in many of your videos. This "Heel Throttle" while on brake - is that your personal style or do many of the Pro Drivers doing this? Thanks for quick answer!
@Sim Racing Garage many thanks for the review. I am really interested in this set of pedals and especially that base plate, but I need a piece of information that I couldn't find anywhere. What is the distance between the screw holes on the base plate to its sides?
The trick to potentiometer braking is getting lucky tbh. I hit the rubber stopper at 60% by sheer chance and I was lapping the ring without crashing semi consistently within a day. Others say PC2 is impossible on a t300 but I haven’t found much issue. every car I like seems to have a problem with going straight if you’re not tough on fighting the FFB shake, but it really helps for turning and I’m rambling, take this keyboard from me
I love seeing Barry smash pedals. He seems to have such a calm demure about him. Then you watch his footwork and realise....oh there it is, that's how he manages his anger. At the other end of the spectrum it's completely mesmerizing watching Supercars champ Scott Mclaughlin practicing on his sim. Thanks for another great review. ruclips.net/video/3zBccHOYiXE/видео.html
Hi Barry, I hope you don't mind me asking a question that you may know the answer based in your experience with this set of pedals. I bought these in April and received them on Monday 21st May, managed to mount them (in my GT1 EVO "2019") and calibrate them correctly using DIVIEW. Used them on Tuesday and was amazed by the difference compared to my g25 pedals I've been using since 2005. To my surprise, went on to use them today, and both accelerator and clutch work but brake is not working... Checked DI View, Windows native app, content manager for AC, but no input coming from the brake whatsoever. I've tried the usuals, rebooting, disconnecting and connecting usbs, disconnected and re-connected the brake cable to the control box... and nothing. No idea what it can be, they only have 1 hour of use and brake is not working... I am using the G25 wheel and obviously the pedals from logitech are not connected. Any idea what this could be? It can't be they just broke, specially the brake pedal with its 100kg loadcell.. Thanks and take care, Cristóbal
Have you contacted All4SIM? There is an outside chance the load cell has failed. Not very common though. Also open up the black inclosure and make sure the load cell connection to the circuit board is on tight.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you Barry, I'll check out those things you mention. I have indeed emailed them today, so I'll also wait their response. Will update on the outcome if I manage to fix it myself or find a solution from All4sim. Cheers, Cristóbal
@@simracinggarage3026 Good news Barry, All4Sim's Martin contacted me and provided a similar sort of response, and I have checked today inside the black control box for the connection of the brake pedal cables into the circuit board (green box with 4 cable sockets). After loosing them and checking, I re-attached them more deeply and then tightened all 4 screws with care (to a point I knew they were well attached and making contact). It is all working fine now and the brake pedal send signals to the computer again. Re-calibrated it and all good to drive! Thanks for your help and prompt response! Take care and best regards, Cristóbal.
Which software is used to calibrate these pedals outside of the sim? Im wondering if you can tweak the curve or the range of the pedals, load/save profiles, etc. I'm most interested in upgrading to these, but i know the Heusinkveld Sprints have very flexible software based on Barry's review, so the lack of that being mentioned in this review leaves me torn between the two. Barry can you mention how they were calibrated/tuned outside of the sim, if at all?
@@WarmRed77 The curve part isn't a big deal, it's being able to send less signal to the sim when at 100% on the actual pedal (example: 100% on the brake = 80% in sim). Helps a lot in sims where the brake pressure isn't adjustable.
I would say it probably could. That being said it’s the most expensive shifter Barry has reviewed (if you’re talking about the large red and grey metal one).
sometimes i hate living in Australia... cannot get any cool stuff...who wants to ship a set to me ? lol i cant even read the website as always, Barry i love the review!
hey good morning George if u scroll down a bit and go back up u can choose the currency and u can choose the english version of the site hope it helps and have a great day .
Hey Barry, random question, but how far are your screens from your eyes? Youve mentioned before that your screen angles are 50 degrees, with 27 inch screens that should be about 25 inches from eye to screen. Is this what you have it set at?
If I were looking to buy a set of higher end pedals. I would chose the Cup 1 with baseplate between the two you mention. That doesn't mean you or others will feel the same way.
@@simracinggarage3026 thanks for the reply it was what i was hopping for the Cup 1s just look so good and your review of them paint them in such a good light the only down side is they don't ship until august
@@simracinggarage3026 just to let you know Barry they now send them out with a 200kg load cell brake not the 100kg yiu received. Great review as always 👏
@@MrMETEK23 I would probably get tge Meca. The only thing I am worried about is the support as this company is basically a big unknown. How will they handle defects? Will they still be around in a couple of years time? This isn't small change for me so something I need to consider in the decision.
@@pyrates2000 Get the HE Sprint. Meca is a copycat. They copied the mechanical design from the old HE Pro Pedals for Brake and Gas Pedal. You should support genuine engineering and not copied designs. Also don't forget Software and Support from HE is top notch. Heusinkveld left a statement in the virtual racing forum on this topic. Sorry for Meca but they should come up with an own design.
@@Tintop They seem to have enough of their own ideas in these to not be simple copies. They are of course inspired by Heusinkveld, no doubt. But they took that basic idea and have improved on it. HE did set kind of a standard in the sim industry with their pedals that others aspire to. This is the case in many other Industries. As long somebody takes the basic concept and improves on it enough I don't see an issue.
I don't know for sure. Did not test them on that pedal tray. They have some generous slots in the pedal mounts, so I thinking it should not be a problem.
Does anyone have experience with the support? I am looking at purchasing, but a product is only as good as the support behind them. I have found that out the hard way when I started sim racing.
@@sim-motion4140 I am an outside sales rep for an engineering sales company. I understand the line sheet dance. I hope your sales are headed up during this strange time. Home entertainment seems to be a category that could buck other economic trends.
How would mounting vertical work, what type of cockpits support it anyway? I have no desire to run pedals F1 style, been having difficulty trying to narrow down how to go with a setup and achieve a good gt position
I have to ask why? I mean why is it a problem for you with floor mounted pedals? If it's for immerssion, it's only for the 'lower ranks' of GT cars that have vertical mounts (Cup cars, GT4's, TCR and a like), far most GT cars nowadays have floor mounted pedal boxes - Even such things as (V8) Supercars and ofc, GT3, GTE, DTM etc.. Mainly because the driver is moved from the regular position, sitting lower and further back, plus it allows for more adjustability, placing and not least, allows to relocation of positions. I would much rather get a nice set of pedals and a sturdy rig, than to pay the extra for inverted. But hey, if there is a need, it's the right question to ask :)
@@Steadybeheady I see - Awesome car! :) There is a lot of solutions around the web depending on the budget for pedals and rig. Fanatec makes some, but you can get kits for such things as HE kits as far as what I've seen in the past. I would highly suggest an 80/20 aluminium rig, such as the Simlab stuff and similiar products, from the get go regardles of style of pedal. They are highly modifieable and sturdy. In order to accomodate for inverted outside of the Fanatec's, you'll probably just bolt them directly on to a "H"-section made of 80/20 aluminium extra pieces. But search around the web, and you'll see different solutions and pedals :) But again.. I can only say that the higher you go in pedal quality, thus more adjustability you get in the feel of the pedals - You'll more than likely have a greater success in getting more your wanted feel with less focus on the inversion but more on the actual pedal it self :-)
@@KF2NationalKartcrg thanks man, I see you recommend the simlab 80/20, I believe I stumbled upon that one late last week and the price comparative to non 80/20 comparable rigs seems actually quite good! I used to be fairly set on the HPP pedal set or HE Ultimate, but I've lessened that to now looking into the HE Sprint and the new all4sim meca are looking real nice. Maybe just with floor mounting and the angle adjustability I could get this close enough, as it seems it is definitely extra cost/gear/work to run a inverted setup. With how so many pedals are able to be set up inverted, I thought that it was more common for a rig to be ready to adapt to the positioning but it seems that is not quite the case. Either of those pedals combined with the Accuforce V2, fanatec sq 1.5 shifter and a undecided handbrake are the game plan to replace my current setup. Plus VR, so no need of monitor mounts or anything like that
How do you integrate different components made by different manufacturers? Say proto simtec pedals or these pedals in the video with a direct drive unit like simucube or accuforce or even fanatec or is it all integrated into the computer? All this on a sim lab cockpit. I'm no computer programmer by any means.
@@simracinggarage3026 thank you. It just looked like the fanatec d d unit had the components plugging into the back of it using rj45 ethernet cables. Thanks again
That's correct, but only Fanatec hardware can plug into their wheelbases. That same hardware can also plug directly into PC USB. Some require adapters from Fanatec, some do not.
@@slatanek no man, this sound isnt that old. It was first used in the CSL Elite LC Pedals Review about two years ago. The 991 RSR was already present in 2015.
I wish the clutch had a slightly longer travel. I like to race in road cars. I guess you could increase the travel by modifying the clutch with larger lobes. Otherwise these pedals look like sim racing porn.
Bodnar LC-USB board support only one load cell. I'm sure those printed black boxes in throttle and clutch has Bodnar's Standalone Loadcell Amplifiers inside.
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“Clutch is a very unique design but is similar to others I’ve seen.” - Barry Roland
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Haha nice 🙂 He says it with such a smooth delivery he gets away with it!
He's a legend it's fine
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An hour ago I never heard of them, now I’ve placed an order.
Be great to be rich.
@@Jellybeantiger unfortunately still cheap compared to running real cars
Rockit181 the sport of the upper middle class
Seriously, I can't quite understand how there are people like (not trying to offend, believe it or not lmao). I, like many others, have a dream a car, if and when I end up buying one, I would do hours of research probaly for more than one day, I can't understand how someone can be sold so easily.
@@chilael6892 Hello, thank you for your reply! I agree with your view on doing research before buying things. In this case I've done most of my research on other products and haven't found something that ticks all the boxes in the price range I was looking for. However, I would argue that this review is very thorough and serves as a quite solid base for research, especially since these are niche products with limited availability of information and real life access. But at the end what I think actually convinced me was to see Barry's excitement, even though he tries to hide it.
The "Bob Ross" of Sim racing review!
"Hickok45" of Sim Racing Reviews!
never heard this before ^^
Best sim racing channel of the world
come on.
When it comes to reviews Barry is clearly the best.
The Sim Channel he’s right though 😉
@@Ufkatuale hah, my thinking was rather "tone it down bro, other creators read this too". I don't disagree though, everybody loves Barry ;-)
I like the fact that the bodnar board is elevated so we can do some adjustments to the brake force without removing the board. Shows All4sim really put a lot of thoughts and consideration to their design
Price - heel and toe function - build quality - looks... I'm convinced!
Best channel for us simracing people. I ALWAYS watch your reviews before buying anything. Great job.
still waiting for Barry to do a sim cockpit 'tour' and show us what he uses on a daily basis to drive.
Every hardware upgrade i come back to your channel. So detailed, ty very much.
Great review man, I really enjoyed your attention to small details and the general knowledge of the makers of the components.
Subscribed.
So relieved that his hair was just pulled back and not chopped.
18:03 Barry, the term is “eccentric” bolt or washer. Great content! It super fun seeing the sim racing world from the auto racing perspective. In fact the only reason I know it’s called an eccentric is because it’s what’s typically used to adjust camber on the alignment.
Ordered my set this week, can't wait to try them put over the v3s
Now theres a pedal plate for my taste 👍 fine loking pedal set, Barry nails it once again 💪
Both the packaging and the pedals them selfes look a lot like Heusinkveld, I do like the long throttle face though!!
*and the pedals them selfes* ~ the correct word is *themselves* in the event English isn't your native language... :-)
@@itzanopinion Thanks for pointing that out, and no, my native language is Swedish. :)
@@itzanopinion I'm not a native speaker either and I have a question. In the phrase "Nobody has ever [verb] before", how do you conjugate the verb?
@@chilael6892 I'm a native speaker. Seems to be taught as the "past participle" as this website lists it: www.linguasorb.com/english/verbs/most-common-verbs/ So while simple past tense would be "he [simple past verb]" or something, for the perfect tense equivalent like you described, that would go "nobody has ever [past participle verb] before." So nobody has ever [been, had, done, said, known, taken, tried, etc.] before." I don't know of a set rule that dictates when it's the same as the simple past or not
Great idea on the bolts and nuts to adjust , will try and use same type for my he sprints.
Shipped to the United States, these MECA Pedals full kit is $891. The HE Sprint full kit with base plate is $787. This would make them direct competitors. Overall, which is the better all around pedal set in your opinion?
Also want to know this
Also, I don't think Barry talks much about the software side of things. It would be great to see a comparison- seems like the HE Sprints have some pretty sophisticated SW profile/curve adjustments that can be made.
We are talking with ALL4SIM about carrying their pedals in our soon to open U.S store as well as our already open European store. Check us out !
I am wondering about this, too. For me it seems Barry was way more enthusiastic about these than he seemed to be when reviewing the Sprints.
This is a great point and comparison. The sim gear from the Czech Republic is not only widely available, it tents to be far less money/better bang for your buck (aiologs is a good example) to convince the average user to "take a chance" on them. I would have thought that this company would try to pretty heavily undercut the HE pedal set in a way to try to earn business, and since they're not I would have a very difficult time choosing these pedals..
That said, when it comes to bang for the buck,I really love my PT-2 pedals which are 90% as good as the HE's, half the price and made in USA.
Can you make a video or post a chart of ranking pedals sets by price, functionality and performance? You review a lot of great products but we don’t know how they stack up to the competition or if it’s worth spending that extra money for the next level up pedals. Thank you
Finally a decent throttle face for heel-toe 😻
Those look awesome, great review :)
"yeah they do a very good job. in fact... uh... better than some of the better known ones actually I think at that price point"
Ooohhh Barry, shots fired! I'm sure HE will take note.
Good, the simracing hardware world needs more competition. It will drive tech forward, prices down, and we all win.
@@TheBrennanSchafer That doesn't happen in a niche market. It will just lead to them cutting corners or copying each other
I just wonder how they could do the job better when they're a plagiarism of the HE Pro Pedals. placebo effect?
@@Ruylopez778 "copying each other" haha.. that's what Meca did here. Copying the HE Pro Pedals.
@@Tintop I know. That's my point. All the designs will become more derivative.
People are comparing these pedals with HE Sprints, not with HE Pros.
With the weight and baseplate they equate it with quality. I think HE weren't trying to make heavy pedals with a heavy baseplate for the Sprints, but some people can't think logically, they just see something that looks heavier and stronger and assume it is better.
Awesome review as always. I have the HE Sprint pedals (which are great), but these Meca pedals look the business! Btw. I need to get myself some Sim Racing Garage t-shirts.
Looks good and seems that they have a really good price
By seeing this review I am once again proud that I come from Czech republic ❤️ 🇨🇿
Super práce hoši, super konkurence high end pedálům 👍🏼 jen si je nemůžu dovolit 😀
These are now my "if I win the Powerball" pedal-set.
Hi Barry, thanks for a thorough review as always. During the driving segement, it looks like the brake durometers deflect at an angle under load and maybe even bottom out the aluminum cups against each other at high load. What's your feeling on this and do you think it will affect either consistency on the brake feel or longevity of the spacers?
50:53 later. And I’m sold
Fancy seeing you here, you into some racing?
I wish I had seen this review BEFORE buying HE sprints..
C'mon, you bought the best (or 2nd best) set of pedals!
I just thought the same thing
I've got no complaints with my Sprints. I've only had one issue so far. My brake pedal went crazy on Sunday after a year of use... Emailed them right away they are sending me out an entire brake pedal. Ill have It Thursday morning here in the US. From what they told me they made a minor change to how they mount the load cell. I'm guessing they had others with my same issue. I got my set of pedals about as soon as you could get them last year so I'm sure I got an early serial #. Any company that will stand behind their product and replace it asap when it breaks gets my business.
These pedals do seem nice. I do see a lot of similarities to the Sprints design.
@@rccrazy30 Exactly this ! Not in a position atm to spend cash on a higher-end rig atm, but if I were, both Simlab and Heusinkveld would get my bussiness. Both their products and support are top notch. Added bonus for me, I would be supporting "local produce". ;)
Heusinkveld have great customer service though. I would LOVE to have some HE Sprints. There will always be new gear coming out.
I think I would choose the HE and DIY a heavy baseplate for them.
Hey Barry, any chance for a review of of the Trakracer TR80 or TR160? I would love to see your take on it. Keep up the good work!
I can't wait to see Barry's review of the HPP-JBV pedals!
Hi Barry. As usual, great review. How did you calibrate these pedals ?
damn barry- my credit card and wife hate you- but my bank and myself love u. i don't even need new pedals- i ve got one- and another on order- but now i want these too- just to u know- have a set on standby! im hooked on the stuff cos of you!
Those look awesome!!!!! Wish I could afford them.
The king has spoken!
I was about to order a set of the new HPP JBV pedals. Now I’m not so sure. The thing that I really want is the good clutch feel. The HPP uses a cam for realistic feel. These use a “tipping cradle” to give you that friction point feel. I think these pedals are a no brained compared to the new HPP pedals. Way more adjustments for each pedal, load cells for each pedal and half the price.
I like the cluch feel on the Heusinkveld sprints better.
@@Carlosrojas-pm4sk You've tried the HPP JBV, Meca Cup1 and the Heusinkveld Sprint pedals side by side?
Just a thought, but you can buy the HE Ultimate pedal as a single unit - though I have no idea about how to configure different brands together in terms of software, or if that is possible.
www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/heusinkveld-engineering-sim-pedals-ultimate-1397108/
You mention at 26:54 that you’ve found “one brake pedal combination” that makes it feel like you want in feedback. Care to share what brake pedal combo that is?
Meca Cup1 vs Heusinkveld Ultimate?
Great
Very nice review. Are there plans to review the new Evo1 Pedals by Meca? Especially the Load Cell Version would be interesting for me.
man this pedal is perfect for me.
That’s a sturdy pedal plate. I may be able to stop skipping leg day if I get one of those 😂
Great review, but I really wish you'd talked more about that heel plate! 😂
Seems we'll need a forklift to move them...
I like those alpine 🌟!
Hey Barry, great review as usual!! Sorry if I missed but, what about calibration software? Is there anything similar to HE? Thanks.
Yes, you can use DIView to calibrate these pedals.
Great review Barry - as allways...
I have a general question of your "driving style" - mentioned this in many of your videos. This "Heel Throttle" while on brake - is that your personal style or do many of the Pro Drivers doing this?
Thanks for quick answer!
This looks insane. God I wish these things would be more cross-platform compatible..
Amazing unique channel.....superb setup..
I womder also if you use vr with the setup?....or just use the three screens...
they inverted the pin colors convention on the throttle pedal wiring, black for 5v and red for GND
Outstanding review, Excellent pedals!!!!
what are your standard pedals you use? you mentioned once that you use a hydraulic set... was hoping to know which one.
The twisting of the elastomer cup under the braking application not a concern Barry? Great review as usual 👍
Yeah, I've noticed that too. That's my only concern with these pedals, so I still can't decide between Heusinkvelds or these.
I miss one thing and that is what software the Meca uses.
That is imho a crucial part.
Other then that, a Great review as always :)
johan Björklund I was going to ask... do they give you software or is it just directly using the bodnar software?
Looks like they just use DI View. So no pedal curves unless you manually configure them through vjoy.
@@rayaguilar9085 Thats correct ;) If sim doesnt support custom pedal curves.
@Sim Racing Garage many thanks for the review. I am really interested in this set of pedals and especially that base plate, but I need a piece of information that I couldn't find anywhere. What is the distance between the screw holes on the base plate to its sides?
@ barry did you try to lower the brake pedal's main shaft?
Looks great boss :)
The trick to potentiometer braking is getting lucky tbh. I hit the rubber stopper at 60% by sheer chance and I was lapping the ring without crashing semi consistently within a day. Others say PC2 is impossible on a t300 but I haven’t found much issue. every car I like seems to have a problem with going straight if you’re not tough on fighting the FFB shake, but it really helps for turning and I’m rambling, take this keyboard from me
Do they have their own adjustment videos or do they just link to the ones that already exist for a certain other set of pedals? 😜
So the Laser cutter will be getting a workout then.
I love seeing Barry smash pedals. He seems to have such a calm demure about him. Then you watch his footwork and realise....oh there it is, that's how he manages his anger.
At the other end of the spectrum it's completely mesmerizing watching Supercars champ Scott Mclaughlin practicing on his sim.
Thanks for another great review.
ruclips.net/video/3zBccHOYiXE/видео.html
Does the clutch lose its feeling of pushing through the pressure plate? Normally you say that about most other pedals and these you didn't.
Uhh, no timestamp for "So.....Let's get to it" ? I'm hurt on so many levels. Otherwise a perfect review as always. ;)
0:39 it was just barely cut off 😂
Barry what is best base you have tried? I like soo much u reviews!
Hi Barry, I hope you don't mind me asking a question that you may know the answer based in your experience with this set of pedals.
I bought these in April and received them on Monday 21st May, managed to mount them (in my GT1 EVO "2019") and calibrate them correctly using DIVIEW. Used them on Tuesday and was amazed by the difference compared to my g25 pedals I've been using since 2005.
To my surprise, went on to use them today, and both accelerator and clutch work but brake is not working... Checked DI View, Windows native app, content manager for AC, but no input coming from the brake whatsoever. I've tried the usuals, rebooting, disconnecting and connecting usbs, disconnected and re-connected the brake cable to the control box... and nothing. No idea what it can be, they only have 1 hour of use and brake is not working...
I am using the G25 wheel and obviously the pedals from logitech are not connected.
Any idea what this could be? It can't be they just broke, specially the brake pedal with its 100kg loadcell..
Thanks and take care,
Cristóbal
Have you contacted All4SIM? There is an outside chance the load cell has failed. Not very common though.
Also open up the black inclosure and make sure the load cell connection to the circuit board is on tight.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thank you Barry, I'll check out those things you mention. I have indeed emailed them today, so I'll also wait their response. Will update on the outcome if I manage to fix it myself or find a solution from All4sim. Cheers, Cristóbal
@@simracinggarage3026 Good news Barry, All4Sim's Martin contacted me and provided a similar sort of response, and I have checked today inside the black control box for the connection of the brake pedal cables into the circuit board (green box with 4 cable sockets). After loosing them and checking, I re-attached them more deeply and then tightened all 4 screws with care (to a point I knew they were well attached and making contact). It is all working fine now and the brake pedal send signals to the computer again. Re-calibrated it and all good to drive! Thanks for your help and prompt response! Take care and best regards, Cristóbal.
Hey Barry, have you ever thought about recording some online races you participate in? I'd have a lot of fun watching
I might just buy the base plate WOW!
Sure wish my HE Sprints had a baseplate like this, it's an unnecessarily complex thing that's a pain to install and adjust.
A baseplate like this will improve the feel of most pedal sets I think.
Which software is used to calibrate these pedals outside of the sim? Im wondering if you can tweak the curve or the range of the pedals, load/save profiles, etc. I'm most interested in upgrading to these, but i know the Heusinkveld Sprints have very flexible software based on Barry's review, so the lack of that being mentioned in this review leaves me torn between the two. Barry can you mention how they were calibrated/tuned outside of the sim, if at all?
It uses the same software as the Heusinkfeld Ultimat (DIView). There are no profiles and curves. Is also unnecessary with these pedals, in my opinion.
@@WarmRed77 The curve part isn't a big deal, it's being able to send less signal to the sim when at 100% on the actual pedal (example: 100% on the brake = 80% in sim). Helps a lot in sims where the brake pressure isn't adjustable.
I LOVE THAT SHIFTER your using , do you think it could be used on Euro Truck , ATS , with a plug in 10 to 18 shifter , Thank You .
I would say it probably could. That being said it’s the most expensive shifter Barry has reviewed (if you’re talking about the large red and grey metal one).
At this point, what would you consider the best must have peddles if you are going all in?
hi thank you for this test I currently have the hpp 2 PRX how do you find this one compared to the hpp prx thank you
sometimes i hate living in Australia... cannot get any cool stuff...who wants to ship a set to me ? lol i cant even read the website
as always, Barry i love the review!
hey good morning George if u scroll down a bit and go back up u can choose the currency and u can choose the english version of the site hope it helps and have a great day .
Ronald Kasteel English version did work thank you!
@@Omggtr your welcome .
Am I missing the software/drivers section here?
Hello, tell me, what are the correct microcircuits to use to convert the signal from the load cell to the pc to set up and calibrate as a game device?
31:12 is where i have a childish chuckle.
Will you review track racers TR8020 cockpit anytime soon?
Hey Barry, random question, but how far are your screens from your eyes? Youve mentioned before that your screen angles are 50 degrees, with 27 inch screens that should be about 25 inches from eye to screen. Is this what you have it set at?
Angel is 60° and 23" from eyeball.
Is there any special software to calibrate and setup them like with H Sprint
Diview
I was wondering how do these compare to the Heusinkveld's Ultimate....
Any idea of the pedal mounting dimensions (not the baseplate)? Same as HE Sprints?
43:08 throttle throw length screw fail, I wonder if that would be a problem or if it just needs tightening a bit more?
That was on me. I didn't tighten it back down properly once I had it adujsted.
Setting the eccentric to max is for NFS arcades, ON / OFF :)
Better than heusinkveld sprint????
Is there a 2 pedals option kit? I don’t need the clutch pedal.
would you recommend these or the Heusinkveld Sprint? I am about to pull the trigger on some high end pedals but i dont know which to get
If I were looking to buy a set of higher end pedals. I would chose the Cup 1 with baseplate between the two you mention. That doesn't mean you or others will feel the same way.
@@simracinggarage3026 thanks for the reply it was what i was hopping for the Cup 1s just look so good and your review of them paint them in such a good light the only down side is they don't ship until august
hey barry would you pick these or the simworx v3 set? sprints arent for sale in Australia for months so its between those two.
That's hard one. Both will give you a great experience.
@@simracinggarage3026 just to let you know Barry they now send them out with a 200kg load cell brake not the 100kg yiu received.
Great review as always 👏
I noticed the aluminum spacers between the bumpers on break pedal angle heavily under braking... is this a concern?
I have not had any issues with wear or friction so far.
Barry, has anyone told you that you sound like Garrus from the Mass Effect games? Well, you do.
Man. Which microphone do you use. It sounds so good 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nothing to do with the mic, hes born with that sexy bass.
I have a question for you ... how do you get your nails so manicured?
Hmm, I was 100% sure I would be getting the HE Sprints this year. Now I am not so sure. These definitely look awesome!
he sprint seems so fragile and too expensive when I look at those pedals.
@@MrMETEK23 I would probably get tge Meca. The only thing I am worried about is the support as this company is basically a big unknown. How will they handle defects? Will they still be around in a couple of years time? This isn't small change for me so something I need to consider in the decision.
@@pyrates2000 Get the HE Sprint. Meca is a copycat. They copied the mechanical design from the old HE Pro Pedals for Brake and Gas Pedal. You should support genuine engineering and not copied designs. Also don't forget Software and Support from HE is top notch. Heusinkveld left a statement in the virtual racing forum on this topic. Sorry for Meca but they should come up with an own design.
@@Tintop They seem to have enough of their own ideas in these to not be simple copies. They are of course inspired by Heusinkveld, no doubt. But they took that basic idea and have improved on it. HE did set kind of a standard in the sim industry with their pedals that others aspire to. This is the case in many other Industries. As long somebody takes the basic concept and improves on it enough I don't see an issue.
you have to compare these pedals with the HE Ultimate and not with the HE Sprint btw.
Hi Barry, do you know if these can be mounted on the Simlab's GT1 Evo rig without the base plate?
I don't know for sure. Did not test them on that pedal tray. They have some generous slots in the pedal mounts, so I thinking it should not be a problem.
@@simracinggarage3026 that helps. Thanks very much :)
Does anyone have experience with the support? I am looking at purchasing, but a product is only as good as the support behind them. I have found that out the hard way when I started sim racing.
Hey Barry, really random question but I’d be really interested in knowing what mic you use 🤔
Nothing speacial. A Sennheiser nock off from Ebay.
@@simracinggarage3026 the voice makes the magic not the mic!
Is there anyone importing these to resell stateside?
We are currently discussing the option to carry these in our new US store.
According to the site, they will ship to the US for about $90
@@sim-motion4140 I am an outside sales rep for an engineering sales company. I understand the line sheet dance. I hope your sales are headed up during this strange time. Home entertainment seems to be a category that could buck other economic trends.
How would mounting vertical work, what type of cockpits support it anyway? I have no desire to run pedals F1 style, been having difficulty trying to narrow down how to go with a setup and achieve a good gt position
I have to ask why? I mean why is it a problem for you with floor mounted pedals? If it's for immerssion, it's only for the 'lower ranks' of GT cars that have vertical mounts (Cup cars, GT4's, TCR and a like), far most GT cars nowadays have floor mounted pedal boxes - Even such things as (V8) Supercars and ofc, GT3, GTE, DTM etc.. Mainly because the driver is moved from the regular position, sitting lower and further back, plus it allows for more adjustability, placing and not least, allows to relocation of positions. I would much rather get a nice set of pedals and a sturdy rig, than to pay the extra for inverted. But hey, if there is a need, it's the right question to ask :)
@@KF2NationalKartcrg good points, my reason is primarily to replicate the feel and positioning overall as closely as I can to my ss 1le
@@Steadybeheady I see - Awesome car! :) There is a lot of solutions around the web depending on the budget for pedals and rig. Fanatec makes some, but you can get kits for such things as HE kits as far as what I've seen in the past. I would highly suggest an 80/20 aluminium rig, such as the Simlab stuff and similiar products, from the get go regardles of style of pedal. They are highly modifieable and sturdy.
In order to accomodate for inverted outside of the Fanatec's, you'll probably just bolt them directly on to a "H"-section made of 80/20 aluminium extra pieces. But search around the web, and you'll see different solutions and pedals :) But again.. I can only say that the higher you go in pedal quality, thus more adjustability you get in the feel of the pedals - You'll more than likely have a greater success in getting more your wanted feel with less focus on the inversion but more on the actual pedal it self :-)
@@KF2NationalKartcrg thanks man, I see you recommend the simlab 80/20, I believe I stumbled upon that one late last week and the price comparative to non 80/20 comparable rigs seems actually quite good!
I used to be fairly set on the HPP pedal set or HE Ultimate, but I've lessened that to now looking into the HE Sprint and the new all4sim meca are looking real nice.
Maybe just with floor mounting and the angle adjustability I could get this close enough, as it seems it is definitely extra cost/gear/work to run a inverted setup. With how so many pedals are able to be set up inverted, I thought that it was more common for a rig to be ready to adapt to the positioning but it seems that is not quite the case.
Either of those pedals combined with the Accuforce V2, fanatec sq 1.5 shifter and a undecided handbrake are the game plan to replace my current setup.
Plus VR, so no need of monitor mounts or anything like that
How do you integrate different components made by different manufacturers? Say proto simtec pedals or these pedals in the video with a direct drive unit like simucube or accuforce or even fanatec or is it all integrated into the computer? All this on a sim lab cockpit. I'm no computer programmer by any means.
They are connected to the PC via USB as individual components. PC handles the integration.
@@simracinggarage3026 thank you. It just looked like the fanatec d d unit had the components plugging into the back of it using rj45 ethernet cables.
Thanks again
That's correct, but only Fanatec hardware can plug into their wheelbases. That same hardware can also plug directly into PC USB. Some require adapters from Fanatec, some do not.
@@simracinggarage3026 ok, thanks, I'm about to order, or be put on the waiting list.
What car sound effects is that in the Intro? Sounds so sick
Think its an 991 RSR.
DoctorDagobert this sound was in the intro way before 991RSR came out
@@slatanek no man, this sound isnt that old. It was first used in the CSL Elite LC Pedals Review about two years ago. The 991 RSR was already present in 2015.
@@slatanek The 991 RSR actually came out 2013, even before Barrys oldest video.
@@DoctorDagobert oh, my bad then. time flys...
Do you know if these would mount directly to P1X pedal tray?
Yes, if you space the profiles on the tray properly.
I wish the clutch had a slightly longer travel. I like to race in road cars. I guess you could increase the travel by modifying the clutch with larger lobes. Otherwise these pedals look like sim racing porn.
not just sim.racing - I wouldn mind these sexies in my volvo :D
Huh so you can connect a load cell to the Bodnar board via the 3-pin headers meant for potentiometers or hall sensors, interesting
Bodnar LC-USB board support only one load cell. I'm sure those printed black boxes in throttle and clutch has Bodnar's Standalone Loadcell Amplifiers inside.