GN and Buildzoid I really love these videos. Please make more of these regarding ASUS boards because they are the only ones I will buy due to the BIOS. After using ASUS BIOS for years and years its the only board vendor that I will buy from. GPU VRM analysis is also awesome, but please just focus on like FTW and other higher end card models. Nobody cares about a VRM for a 1050 ya know what I mean? Thanks for all the content!
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking thank you very much for the information good work. They need to name a motherboard with you're name billzcraycray, oc king. it's kind of cool like electric got to you're hair billzhairvoltsoc. Only for crazy oc motherboards you're videos and information are the best just my old a$$ opinion .
The "downside" for using doublers (in the case of a CPU) is pretty small, so doing away with them is more of a "because we CAN" coolness factor than an actual performance increase. Nevertheless, it WILL be (slightly) faster at responding to transients (although doublers are usually fast ENOUGH for CPU VID calls anyway). Still, very cool! Also, I thought the TDA21475 (as opposed to the 472 seen here) was the "latest and greatest" Infineon power stage? Did I miss something?
yeah, one example would be how the MSI B350 and B450 Mortars lost the SOC heatsink while the B250 and B360 has those. hahaha I mean seriously? AMD is know for their APUs while pull several times more SOC current than Intels pathetic iGPU and they decide to omit the heatsink on AM4?
There's money to be made, of course they give the state of the art product, AMD 3000 series will even go above Intel's current and previous pricing for their lineup, Ryzen 3000 series will be probably the most expensive pure "consumer" product, it technically is a HEDT Prosumer product at the Ryzen 9.
This board came with one mission brief. “Make Buildzoid think it’s Christmas” It may have been a ruder brief but I’m thinking of the children, children who like VRMs for breakfast.
Yeah, but it seems a bit wrong to rely on riser cause vendor messed up design. Unless PCIe riser included with motherboard as "yes, we know... please use it"
It's interesting that this round, Gigabyte, MSI/Asrock, and Asus choose 3 different solutions for their VRM design. Would you do a summary comparison video on this?
How much of your life do you want to be regulated with anything less than 14 true phases? The answer is obvious: I don't want this, I NEED THIS. Mad props guys. ;)
I was thinking this was a repost, but I didn't know why. Yeah the first video was probably 40 minutes. I like his rambling. I don't know why. I don't like it when steve rapidly rehearses long codes and obscure brands back to back till I have to watch it 3 times and still don't know what he said. His rambling is more emotional than mechanical. I feel his love. Edit: actually I was thinking of ruclips.net/video/Lz4_stcf__0/видео.html
Glad to hear Buildzoid likes this MOBO. I was actually looking at doing a 16core Ryzen 3 build with this board to replace the Intel build I did last summer.
Krisis Cove Same here, I’ve already braved my bank account for impact this July lol. Btw, do you know of any good cases for E-ATX sized motherboards? I was looking to swap from my current NZXT H500i to something with better airflow in preparation for Zen 2. There are a couple I’ve seen that interest me that supposedly have compatibility like the Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic and Fractal Design Meshify S2.
@@WilliamRivera343 I will be using my View 71 (I also run a custom loop though so for me I just wanted a case with a lot of space for radiators). That said while my case supports E-ATX, the board will partially cover the grommets so I imagine my 24 pin and like the PCIe cables, sata, etc will be a very tight fit going through those grommets. I really like the Lian Li case because the grommets for the cable management are at an angle so I think it will probably look a bit cleaner in the end.
My wife, after overhearing this video, has decided they name individual chips by allowing the office cat to indiscriminately swipe at a keyboard. 😂😂😂 Excellent breakdown as always!
That extra PCIe power connector at the bottom doesn't seem to be in the final board revision - at least it doesn't seem to be there, looking at this board's page on Gigabyte's site.
Yep, as they had to remove it for the full board heatsink. But could use PCI-E riser cable, if it was still there, got money for that if you got money for 3x GPUs :)
@@onboard3 They didnt remove it. its still there. They either made it a 90 degree connector or its under the full board heatsink. static.gigabyte.com/Product/2/6894/201905241526390587444fa7ee0b3ca166bd9307bee93336_src.png
Idea about the six pin, you could use a riser card and mount the third GPU vertically in the case. That would then allow you to plug in a 6+2 pin power plug.
Not really even for a GPU, but yes. It's really intended for an expansion card or something like a PCIE to xxxx adapter like additional storage, LAN, or Wi-Fi
Great Analysis!!! Always looking forward to the analysis videos!! Side note, I believe using a PCIE riser for that 3rd GPU would be the only solution to the power connector problem.. It would look like a mess though haha
Thanks Actually Hardcore Overclocking! while i watch most of your videos sometimes i got to skip around, im glad you share them here cut up into pieces. really helps cut down on the time in my busy life. not saying i dont watch your full vids, just sometimes cant.
I have heard from ppl. not saying the best of things about Gigabyte. What i know is a have a Gigabyte M/B for 10 whole years now (the same one, one of the first 6 cores to came out). I have moved, i have deconstructed my system multiple times, i have used a vacuum cleaner on it, it has gone through thousands of power cuts etc. etc. The M/B is still more healthy than myself. So i trust a Gigabyte M/B like a Japanese/Korean car. I know that.
Generally the biggest criticism of Gigabyte is that they have by consensus the worst BIOS. According to Matt they've overhauled it for x570 so I'm hoping they knocked that out of the park too, even it they just copy Asus's BIOS because it's the best one.
@@Michel-Graillier-fanclub Well i won't judge Gigabyte overall just by having one product (although i did in my initial product). I just wanted to say it was a solid product that lasted me for a a whole 10 years. I am your avg. consumer that wants good deals overall. That being said, while waiting for July 7th, i am leaning (more than leaning really) on other M/B and Asrock are one i am considering definitely.
@@Michel-Graillier-fanclub I used the Gigabyte Z68X-UD5 for my dad's 2500k build and it's still running to this day. He upgraded to the 3770k last year. It's a fairly solid board but it still uses a BIOS, whereas Asus started using the UEFI with their P67 boards. I remember when ASRock used to svck but one of these days I'm going to try out one of their boards. The z370 Taichi is supposed to be a very good board but then again the Gigabyte z370 Aorus Gaming 7 is also very good. I used the z370 Aorus Gaming 7 in my sister's 8700k build and the only complaint I can think of is the lack of UEFI updates and the clunky UEFI interface. Otherwise it boots lightning fast and it's a pleasure to work with.
Good job I love this channel and nevermind the haters that are like oh you talked too much about the 8 pin when you should a been talking about this or that. F**I off. Let the man explain. If you can do a better job Steve would have hired you and not him. Love the detail you put into the explanations. Keep up the good work
HES A Evga SHILL. Your a dumbass, hes the biggest problem of tech tubers. He does nothing but ram his own products down your throat, gets free stuff and licks eVGA nuts to get more free money. they even said it "WHY NOT DO IT LN2 IS FREE"
Holy crap this motherboard. I knew this board was gonna be rock solid, but I didn't think it would be straight-up overkill 9000! My X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wi-Fi: *sweating intensifies*
For the lower PCI slot you still can put some PCI based storage board in there. They are pretty thin and you will probably be able to attach wires to that power source slot.
Nice to know, this is a beast of a motherboard looking good hope ryzen 3600x or 3700x can oc like a champ, thanks for the video information keep it coming out.
1967 kID Heh you could put 3 or four 3600 or 3700 on this and this still would be owerkill... pity that there only is one socket ;) Also 200$ cpu and 600$ Morher board Sounds like interesting pair ;) But yaeh, I still want to have this board, if the bios and memory overclocking Are desent!
/ facepalm ... Buildzoid just spent about 15 minutes explaining that overbuilt VRM all these top boards have basically do not need ANY cooling whatsoever ... yet here we are with people wanting opinions on overpriced boards with absolutely STUPID watercooling blocks on the VRM... VRM does NOT need to be watercooled ... if it does its BADLY DESIGNED VRM ... guess which is cheaper - putting proper or even insanely overkill VRM on the board or slapping watercooling block on it ... but go ahead, buy the watercooled board to cool the whopping 15-ish watts of heat ... well if you integrate it into the CPU/GPU loop you will actually be most likely be HEATING the VRM instead ...
@@cemoruc8810 there is about million other things you can buy for "epeen" for that insane extra payd for useless junk... and anyone who knows even a bit about this stuff will just laugh at you instead for wasting money like that ... i know i would ...
Totally agree about the incorrect placement of the PCI slot AUX power connector. Instantly scratched this board off my shortlist. I run 3 and 4 gpus in all my computers.
It also has a $600 MSRP. Paying more for a motherboard than any of the launch CPUs cost (maybe more than any CPU for the platform ever will) isn't remotely worth it IMO. As nice as the VRM porn is, it's completely unnecessary and boards that will serve any normal user fine will be available for a third of the price of this thing.
Well I didn't say it was for me, but if this is the best at launch, 4-6 months in we might see a great deal on this one, or a similar newer model at a lower pricepoint
"pulls a ton of power tons of threads" "pulls a stupid amount of current" "this is the thing the chip was meant for" "why work around having doublers when you can just not have doublers"
I've had Problems with every single Gigabyte board that has ever come through my door . I will never give them a chance ever again. Gigabyte power delivery has always been the issue every time .Never ever had problems with Asus and Asrock motherboards. I will forever from now on only build and refer ppl to those boards!
Yeah I was so close to getting this...but after reading so much shit on it...it scares me. I want a good mother and don't mind spending a little more if its worth it...but if its gonna burn out then whats the point. Just feel bad as I have an AUROS 1080ti extreme video card and it has been great so far. It's a beast.
I've had a Gigabyte 990FX board with my FX system for a while now and been happy with it. for my needs. I know people complain about their boards at least their BIOS but I'm leaning towards them again for my Ryzen 3K build. this is looking good. Might go with the model down though depending on price.
@29:00 probably the best criticism that could be said. A riser cable would have to be used in this "case," which would be realistic for any sort of fan set-up to cool this just off of air as opposed to liquid. Doesn't this board come with an m.2 pcie4 card as well? Maybe use it for that if it fits.
I think this board's long term prospects is that it will be come a collectors item. It appears to me to be the current Buick Grand National GNX of motherboards.
Timecodes are right, but the "loading bars" dont match. Very interesting video. I do plan to switch to a SFF PC with Zen2, could BuildZoid maybe review some ITX X570 Boards?
I've always silently wondered WTF do extra GPU power directly on mobo do since they're not on every PCIe3 x16 compatible motherboard? Buildzoid heard my thoughts, and He answered! Proof that *Faith in **_Tech Jesus_** will be rewarded!!*
Am I the only one that noticed that the extreme top right hand pin is bent? And wouldn't you want to straighten it out before making a video? And maybe I missed it, but what size PSU(minimum) should be used? Asking for a friend...
Just as he says, overkill for literally 99.9% of users even for the 3950x. This is figuratively like running a dedicated 30 amp circuit for a household toaster. Your'e better off spending significantly less on a more balanced motherboard and putting the difference toward things that actually matter like a higher SKU CPU, cooling solution & a faster graphics card. Given any decent motherboard, your OC result is going to depend almost entirely on the silicon lottery, your cooling solution & dialing in the correct BIOS settings, not throwing $550-$600+ at a motherboard... Apples to oranges comparison but my Asus Z390-E with its often ridiculed "8 phase" (actually 4x2) is able to run my 9900k @5GHz (maybe higher, haven't tried, no real need) Prime95 small FFT AVX for hours on end. Most people advise against that test as it is an unrealistic power virus, and yet a mid 4x2 phase range board is able to meet the power requirements under that test. Just my $0.02.
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i hope this sexy beast will be in my pocketrange, i want it also.
@@georgelucianoniceanu6769 first pack a 3900x in it, then ill prolly buy a threadripper nxt gen. and i love to fundle with OC, and i love the fact it have no fan on its chipset.
I absolutely don't need this board. I just want to put a 3900x on it with stock speed and hopefully a pair for 32gb RAM with 3600-4000Mhz. But I absolutely want this board, because it is so flipping HOT! (pun intended!) The design (with heat shields etc.) is soooo nice. They should label it ESRB A for 18+ only, due to Strong Sexual Content or simply hardware porn.
Yeah I’m looking at the 3900x and although I could be fine with a x470, I realllllly want this, looking st the upcoming premium boards, this one just stuck out at me, I really hope this is at or under 300 but probably not :/
L1Slayer yeah I shortly realized after this the price range this was going to fall under. I may stretch for it. I may not need all that power, but I really do want the rest of the features. I haven’t looked too much into the lower tier models, but I think a big thing for me is having 3 m.2 slots. The apparently really nice headphone amp is also a huge plus. It also looks amazing. But with the 3900x I should be able to get a modest overclock with something cheaper. I guess we’ll see. Not trying to go crazy on the cooling anyway
@@IAmCjcj11I'm still trying to justify it, but besides some neat features, there isn't really anything. Well, let's wait and see how the final prices will turn out.
So in other words, if the sweet spot on the power stages is something like 50%, and 200A is the upper reach of 16-core Ryzen 3000, this board really only needs 6 phases/power stages. The other 8 are for show, and so you can pay more for the board?
Dual power connectors halve the impedance between the PSU and motherboard, as such I would expect the dynamic response of the power supply to be better at responding to load transients - especially when CPU boost varies per core.
Awesome vid. I wonder how much effort it really takes to design a board like this. If you think about it, over-engineering is easier than designing with reasonable safety factors where you really have to balance your risk assessments for every component is harder. Especially for a board like this where the only differentiator is the overbuilt VRM, much of the price is likely down to component cost and margins to cover lower expected demand compared to more reasonable models.
These motherboard companies are building some monster boards and I imagine they were given Ryzen samples to build the board around. Ryzen 3 could be a freakin beast.
I want this motherboard almost purely because of its looks. It is COMPLETE overkill for anything I would use it for. But that BIOS and software...OMG....do they have something in their corporate charters that literally says "make the software suck on EVERY level" or something?
I feel more excited for VRMs every video even if I still don't really unconsciously understand why they matter. Looks like the board to pair with the 12/16 core CPUs
in my own pc's ... starting with a celeron of the pentium 4 era, a few core 2 duos and up to AMD FX and X99 ... i have owned 4 gigabyte boards (socket 478/two lga775/AMD 970 none had any issues) 1 msi board (lga775 - no issues), 2 Asus boards (lga775 - audio chip died / X99 - the board itself died)
Find our Gigabyte X570 Master PCB analysis here: ruclips.net/video/Lz4_stcf__0/видео.html
And our top-level Gigabyte X570 overview here: ruclips.net/video/yDA0zBR6MgA/видео.html
Find Buildzoid here: ruclips.net/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ
PS. This might be the ONLY X570 board with a true 14 phase. I still haven't seen any XDPE132G5C based boards from other vendors.
GN and Buildzoid I really love these videos. Please make more of these regarding ASUS boards because they are the only ones I will buy due to the BIOS. After using ASUS BIOS for years and years its the only board vendor that I will buy from. GPU VRM analysis is also awesome, but please just focus on like FTW and other higher end card models. Nobody cares about a VRM for a 1050 ya know what I mean? Thanks for all the content!
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking thank you very much for the information good work. They need to name a motherboard with you're name billzcraycray, oc king. it's kind of cool like electric got to you're hair billzhairvoltsoc. Only for crazy oc motherboards you're videos and information are the best just my old a$$ opinion .
Gimme Aorus ultra and Pro wifi analysis video Steve please
The "downside" for using doublers (in the case of a CPU) is pretty small, so doing away with them is more of a "because we CAN" coolness factor than an actual performance increase. Nevertheless, it WILL be (slightly) faster at responding to transients (although doublers are usually fast ENOUGH for CPU VID calls anyway). Still, very cool!
Also, I thought the TDA21475 (as opposed to the 472 seen here) was the "latest and greatest" Infineon power stage? Did I miss something?
Love hearing this guy nerd out over vrm FeelsGoodMan
woah dude its Korey thats crazy...
Damn.... Korey's here
How crazy to see an AMD board that isn't clearly a worse version of an Intel counterpart. The mobo manufacturers seem to be very excited about Zen 2.
Irish Giant those motherboard manufacturer suckers changed their shoes pretty quick.
It's pretty cool to see an AMD mainstream board that's better than any board ever made to date.
@@Igorsov why this would be wrong?
yeah, one example would be how the MSI B350 and B450 Mortars lost the SOC heatsink while the B250 and B360 has those. hahaha I mean seriously? AMD is know for their APUs while pull several times more SOC current than Intels pathetic iGPU and they decide to omit the heatsink on AM4?
There's money to be made, of course they give the state of the art product, AMD 3000 series will even go above Intel's current and previous pricing for their lineup, Ryzen 3000 series will be probably the most expensive pure "consumer" product, it technically is a HEDT Prosumer product at the Ryzen 9.
You can literally hear the massive, 14 phase grin on his face. 😁
What you didn't know though is that when he frowns, his whole face turns into a blocky sine wave...
As generated by a 2 phase VRM....
Soo the p67 ud7 24 phases are fake ?
Buildzoid - GN's ace in the hole. Love it!
This board came with one mission brief.
“Make Buildzoid think it’s Christmas”
It may have been a ruder brief but I’m thinking of the children, children who like VRMs for breakfast.
-What can handle this motherboard?
+Yes
Stupidly high LN2 overclocks incoming?
Hope so!
You can easily use the 3rd pcie 16x slot with a pcie riser cable for sli and crossfire and connect the 6pin pcie cable beneath to power the slots
Yeah, but it seems a bit wrong to rely on riser cause vendor messed up design. Unless PCIe riser included with motherboard as "yes, we know... please use it"
Sli requires a bridge for powerful cards, so a riser cable is not an option
the video has been cut multiple times and still is 30 min long :'D
Don Valentino cut in past tense is cut, not cutted. Cutted is actually not a word.
has been cut
fixed, thanks to all the grammarzoid
just run it at twice the speed
GN MutILaTeD Buildzoid's video, press F to pay respect...
It's interesting that this round, Gigabyte, MSI/Asrock, and Asus choose 3 different solutions for their VRM design. Would you do a summary comparison video on this?
Thats what i want to see
easy views. he'll do it
But if you know what the best is why bother on the others ?
Thx for stopping by GN Buildzoid
Love hearing BZ drool over a well-made board. Way to go, Gigabyte! And, great vid, BZ!
How much of your life do you want to be regulated with anything less than 14 true phases?
The answer is obvious: I don't want this, I NEED THIS.
Mad props guys. ;)
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1st rule: never cut BZ when he rambles
2nd rule: never cut BZ when he rambles
I was thinking this was a repost, but I didn't know why. Yeah the first video was probably 40 minutes. I like his rambling. I don't know why. I don't like it when steve rapidly rehearses long codes and obscure brands back to back till I have to watch it 3 times and still don't know what he said. His rambling is more emotional than mechanical. I feel his love.
Edit: actually I was thinking of ruclips.net/video/Lz4_stcf__0/видео.html
The only thing we cut was a bunch of "ums." You didn't lose any information.
@@GamersNexus hey Steve those "ums" are important and necessary
But what we did lose was him counting up to 14.
The ums would sound better and more natural then the cuts. The cuts are just so jarring.
Ah another Buildzoid video. Very cool. Very cool indeed. Just like the vrm
Thank you Gamers Nexus and Buildzoid! These are strangely fun to watch. I think your voice is very nerdy, in a good way.
Glad to hear Buildzoid likes this MOBO. I was actually looking at doing a 16core Ryzen 3 build with this board to replace the Intel build I did last summer.
"Not a motherboard you need, but a motherboard you would want." Definitely the one that I want. Loved this analysis!
If I were to buy a new PC with AMD parts, this motherboard would have priority . I love it !
It's the board I am getting. Not looking forward to that 6 to 700 USD price tab though
Krisis Cove Same here, I’ve already braved my bank account for impact this July lol. Btw, do you know of any good cases for E-ATX sized motherboards? I was looking to swap from my current NZXT H500i to something with better airflow in preparation for Zen 2. There are a couple I’ve seen that interest me that supposedly have compatibility like the Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic and Fractal Design Meshify S2.
This will be 500 to a 1000 dollars.
@@WilliamRivera343 I will be using my View 71 (I also run a custom loop though so for me I just wanted a case with a lot of space for radiators). That said while my case supports E-ATX, the board will partially cover the grommets so I imagine my 24 pin and like the PCIe cables, sata, etc will be a very tight fit going through those grommets.
I really like the Lian Li case because the grommets for the cable management are at an angle so I think it will probably look a bit cleaner in the end.
Gigabyte finally doing AMD justice, I definitely want this board.
I don't need, but I am getting it this year...
I see BZ i hit like, lean back and enjoy the show
My wife, after overhearing this video, has decided they name individual chips by allowing the office cat to indiscriminately swipe at a keyboard. 😂😂😂 Excellent breakdown as always!
You can hear the excitement from Buildzoid's voice, and that makes me happy.
That extra PCIe power connector at the bottom doesn't seem to be in the final board revision - at least it doesn't seem to be there, looking at this board's page on Gigabyte's site.
Yep, as they had to remove it for the full board heatsink. But could use PCI-E riser cable, if it was still there, got money for that if you got money for 3x GPUs :)
@@onboard3 They didnt remove it. its still there. They either made it a 90 degree connector or its under the full board heatsink.
static.gigabyte.com/Product/2/6894/201905241526390587444fa7ee0b3ca166bd9307bee93336_src.png
I'm really hoping Zen 2 is gonna live up to the hype.
Idea about the six pin, you could use a riser card and mount the third GPU vertically in the case. That would then allow you to plug in a 6+2 pin power plug.
Not really even for a GPU, but yes. It's really intended for an expansion card or something like a PCIE to xxxx adapter like additional storage, LAN, or Wi-Fi
Great Analysis!!! Always looking forward to the analysis videos!!
Side note, I believe using a PCIE riser for that 3rd GPU would be the only solution to the power connector problem.. It would look like a mess though haha
Yes, they sould put that 6 pin near the 24 pin
Love this board. If I was building a Zen 2 PC this is the board I would go for (yes I love overkill.)
I am doing just that. Gigabyte killed it this time around.
22:32 Extension kit for vertical mounting a 3rd GPU.
I like the idea of passive chipset cooling.
Is anyone else doing this for X570?
Thanks Actually Hardcore Overclocking! while i watch most of your videos sometimes i got to skip around, im glad you share them here cut up into pieces. really helps cut down on the time in my busy life. not saying i dont watch your full vids, just sometimes cant.
I just ordered this board and I'm super excited
I have heard from ppl. not saying the best of things about Gigabyte. What i know is a have a Gigabyte M/B for 10 whole years now (the same one, one of the first 6 cores to came out). I have moved, i have deconstructed my system multiple times, i have used a vacuum cleaner on it, it has gone through thousands of power cuts etc. etc. The M/B is still more healthy than myself. So i trust a Gigabyte M/B like a Japanese/Korean car. I know that.
Generally the biggest criticism of Gigabyte is that they have by consensus the worst BIOS. According to Matt they've overhauled it for x570 so I'm hoping they knocked that out of the park too, even it they just copy Asus's BIOS because it's the best one.
Gigabyte is junk, go for Asrock premium boards and you have a 10+ year board.
@@Michel-Graillier-fanclub Well i won't judge Gigabyte overall just by having one product (although i did in my initial product). I just wanted to say it was a solid product that lasted me for a a whole 10 years. I am your avg. consumer that wants good deals overall. That being said, while waiting for July 7th, i am leaning (more than leaning really) on other M/B and Asrock are one i am considering definitely.
@@Michel-Graillier-fanclub I used the Gigabyte Z68X-UD5 for my dad's 2500k build and it's still running to this day. He upgraded to the 3770k last year. It's a fairly solid board but it still uses a BIOS, whereas Asus started using the UEFI with their P67 boards.
I remember when ASRock used to svck but one of these days I'm going to try out one of their boards. The z370 Taichi is supposed to be a very good board but then again the Gigabyte z370 Aorus Gaming 7 is also very good. I used the z370 Aorus Gaming 7 in my sister's 8700k build and the only complaint I can think of is the lack of UEFI updates and the clunky UEFI interface. Otherwise it boots lightning fast and it's a pleasure to work with.
PLEASE DON'T STOP THIS EDUCATIONAL SERIES!!!
Good job I love this channel and nevermind the haters that are like oh you talked too much about the 8 pin when you should a been talking about this or that. F**I off. Let the man explain. If you can do a better job Steve would have hired you and not him. Love the detail you put into the explanations. Keep up the good work
HES A Evga SHILL. Your a dumbass, hes the biggest problem of tech tubers. He does nothing but ram his own products down your throat, gets free stuff and licks eVGA nuts to get more free money. they even said it "WHY NOT DO IT LN2 IS FREE"
fantastic description on how this board works!!
Holy crap this motherboard. I knew this board was gonna be rock solid, but I didn't think it would be straight-up overkill 9000!
My X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wi-Fi: *sweating intensifies*
X570
@@FesteringRatSub Yes.
I'm surprised they didn't silkscreen "Hi Buildzoid!" in tiny letters near the VRMs :)
For the lower PCI slot you still can put some PCI based storage board in there. They are pretty thin and you will probably be able to attach wires to that power source slot.
Can't wait for the Zen2 processors reviews, I'm actually hyped, and if it actually does what AMD says it'll be amazing!.
What a beast of a board. I‘d still love to see an analysis of the Asrock X570 Aqua.
ASRock Japan tweeted "it is lower Latency with phase doublers(than no doublers)".
Is this true? (I'm sorry for my bad English)
Infineon: you will never see this chip in a consumer platform.
Gigabyte: hold my beer.
Nice to know, this is a beast of a motherboard looking good hope ryzen 3600x or 3700x can oc like a champ, thanks for the video information keep it coming out.
1967 kID Heh you could put 3 or four 3600 or 3700 on this and this still would be owerkill... pity that there only is one socket ;)
Also 200$ cpu and 600$ Morher board Sounds like interesting pair ;)
But yaeh, I still want to have this board, if the bios and memory overclocking Are desent!
FInally, been waiting for this analysis :D
That VRM could feed power to a graphics card as a side job.
We want budget B550 VRM reviews once they are available.
My guess is, unless it removes the pcie4 it won't be cheap
Hey : nice you appear on Gamers Nexus, BuildZoid
"Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme with Buildzoid's seal of approval" i approve :)
AM4 future proof VRM, who knows when AMD will come out with more crazy cpu stuff.
I cant wait for Buildzoid to do the asrock x570 Aqua.. STEVE!!! Is there a chance? :D
I want them to look at this badly.
/ facepalm ...
Buildzoid just spent about 15 minutes explaining that overbuilt VRM all these top boards have basically do not need ANY cooling whatsoever ... yet here we are with people wanting opinions on overpriced boards with absolutely STUPID watercooling blocks on the VRM...
VRM does NOT need to be watercooled ... if it does its BADLY DESIGNED VRM ... guess which is cheaper - putting proper or even insanely overkill VRM on the board or slapping watercooling block on it ...
but go ahead, buy the watercooled board to cool the whopping 15-ish watts of heat ... well if you integrate it into the CPU/GPU loop you will actually be most likely be HEATING the VRM instead ...
I'm doing the creator and thats' the same PCB
@@Asghaad for epeen bro don't you get it
@@cemoruc8810 there is about million other things you can buy for "epeen" for that insane extra payd for useless junk...
and anyone who knows even a bit about this stuff will just laugh at you instead for wasting money like that ... i know i would ...
Totally agree about the incorrect placement of the PCI slot AUX power connector. Instantly scratched this board off my shortlist. I run 3 and 4 gpus in all my computers.
3rd slot for vertical GPU setup?
Amazing analysis. Big fan. You earned a sub.
So what im hearing is this is probably the best x570 board at launch (that we know of)?
Except, its a Gigabyte.
@@nevcairiel at least its not Asus
It also has a $600 MSRP. Paying more for a motherboard than any of the launch CPUs cost (maybe more than any CPU for the platform ever will) isn't remotely worth it IMO. As nice as the VRM porn is, it's completely unnecessary and boards that will serve any normal user fine will be available for a third of the price of this thing.
Well I didn't say it was for me, but if this is the best at launch, 4-6 months in we might see a great deal on this one, or a similar newer model at a lower pricepoint
@@nevcairiel gigabyte is releasing a brand new bios, so they are much more attractive, assuming its a decent upgrade over their current mess.
27:17 and that's why I ordered that beast for my new build
was waiting for more x570 analysis from buildzoid. was blueballed for the whole week
I put out the X570 ITX from gigabyte on my channel like 2 days ago.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking and i watched it bb
"pulls a ton of power tons of threads"
"pulls a stupid amount of current"
"this is the thing the chip was meant for"
"why work around having doublers when you can just not have doublers"
Tbh I dont understand anything he's saying but I listen anyway. Das good content right there
I love the content 😍 But yeah, not easy :D
Can't wait to see the Master analysis. I think that's the board I'm going to ged.
By the way, waiting for x570 motherboard roundup from you, Buidzoid, before building my next system : )
Passion and knowledge conveyed in an interesting manner, thank you
I've had Problems with every single Gigabyte board that has ever come through my door . I will never give them a chance ever again. Gigabyte power delivery has always been the issue every time .Never ever had problems with Asus and Asrock motherboards. I will forever from now on only build and refer ppl to those boards!
Yeah I was so close to getting this...but after reading so much shit on it...it scares me. I want a good mother and don't mind spending a little more if its worth it...but if its gonna burn out then whats the point. Just feel bad as I have an AUROS 1080ti extreme video card and it has been great so far. It's a beast.
Gigabyte builds true 14+2 vrm this is a buildzoid dream now we have to buy this for him
9:04 - so basically this is the honeybadger of motherboards: "honeybadger does not give a shit"
It's called Future proofing for Ryzen 4k and 5k perhaps :) I hope the passive cooling is good enough.. sounds like a winner.
I've had a Gigabyte 990FX board with my FX system for a while now and been happy with it. for my needs. I know people complain about their boards at least their BIOS but I'm leaning towards them again for my Ryzen 3K build. this is looking good. Might go with the model down though depending on price.
He didn't say it's trash. That means it's good!
Would love to see this massive overkill VRM setup on next Threadripper motherboard. Next 3990WX or whatever it called would put the VRM to work.
you might be looking at that this looks like it just needs the right socket
@29:00 probably the best criticism that could be said. A riser cable would have to be used in this "case," which would be realistic for any sort of fan set-up to cool this just off of air as opposed to liquid. Doesn't this board come with an m.2 pcie4 card as well? Maybe use it for that if it fits.
I think this board's long term prospects is that it will be come a collectors item. It appears to me to be the current Buick Grand National GNX of motherboards.
Got confused by the ad. Then realised.
Great content!
BTW: 0:40 editing glitch. You've cut too soon.
Barely. It's fine. We made the ad shorter since the original was way too long.
Why are there so many of these refurbished? Is there a problem with quality control?
The 6 power pin connector is for the rare case that someone is going to run a dual r9295 x2, i think everyone of this is like 500w
So if this is complete overkill; how many phases are actually needed to overclock a 12/16 core Ryzen well?
basshead Damn that almost half.
@@basshead. thanks, it's good to know at least a starting point.
Timecodes are right, but the "loading bars" dont match.
Very interesting video. I do plan to switch to a SFF PC with Zen2, could BuildZoid maybe review some ITX X570 Boards?
I've always silently wondered WTF do extra GPU power directly on mobo do since they're not on every PCIe3 x16 compatible motherboard? Buildzoid heard my thoughts, and He answered!
Proof that *Faith in **_Tech Jesus_** will be rewarded!!*
I want this because it is passively cooled
Am I the only one that noticed that the extreme top right hand pin is bent? And wouldn't you want to straighten it out before making a video? And maybe I missed it, but what size PSU(minimum) should be used? Asking for a friend...
aib's watching this channel: Der8aer+Steve+Buildzoid=sum of all fears
😂😂
Can't wait to see 3900X in action!
Just as he says, overkill for literally 99.9% of users even for the 3950x. This is figuratively like running a dedicated 30 amp circuit for a household toaster. Your'e better off spending significantly less on a more balanced motherboard and putting the difference toward things that actually matter like a higher SKU CPU, cooling solution & a faster graphics card. Given any decent motherboard, your OC result is going to depend almost entirely on the silicon lottery, your cooling solution & dialing in the correct BIOS settings, not throwing $550-$600+ at a motherboard... Apples to oranges comparison but my Asus Z390-E with its often ridiculed "8 phase" (actually 4x2) is able to run my 9900k @5GHz (maybe higher, haven't tried, no real need) Prime95 small FFT AVX for hours on end. Most people advise against that test as it is an unrealistic power virus, and yet a mid 4x2 phase range board is able to meet the power requirements under that test. Just my $0.02.
i hope this sexy beast will be in my pocketrange, i want it also.
and...you'll do what with it?
@@georgelucianoniceanu6769 first pack a 3900x in it, then ill prolly buy a threadripper nxt gen. and i love to fundle with OC, and i love the fact it have no fan on its chipset.
@ i might be wrong but i thought this motherboard has AM4 chipset and threadripper is tr4 chipset...
@Israel Salgado that sounds adequit for maybe the best fanless 570.
$599 is pretty steep.
At least it's cheaper than the MSI Godlike :P
I absolutely don't need this board. I just want to put a 3900x on it with stock speed and hopefully a pair for 32gb RAM with 3600-4000Mhz.
But I absolutely want this board, because it is so flipping HOT! (pun intended!)
The design (with heat shields etc.) is soooo nice. They should label it ESRB A for 18+ only, due to Strong Sexual Content or simply hardware porn.
Yeah I’m looking at the 3900x and although I could be fine with a x470, I realllllly want this, looking st the upcoming premium boards, this one just stuck out at me, I really hope this is at or under 300 but probably not :/
@@IAmCjcj11 This is no way going to be close to 300$. More like 600-700$. Sadly
L1Slayer yeah I shortly realized after this the price range this was going to fall under.
I may stretch for it. I may not need all that power, but I really do want the rest of the features. I haven’t looked too much into the lower tier models, but I think a big thing for me is having 3 m.2 slots. The apparently really nice headphone amp is also a huge plus. It also looks amazing. But with the 3900x I should be able to get a modest overclock with something cheaper. I guess we’ll see. Not trying to go crazy on the cooling anyway
@@IAmCjcj11I'm still trying to justify it, but besides some neat features, there isn't really anything.
Well, let's wait and see how the final prices will turn out.
L1Slayer yeah I mean we can still hope for 400 right? Lmaooooo
16 Core Ryzen came out and it's best of thrid gen family
So in other words, if the sweet spot on the power stages is something like 50%, and 200A is the upper reach of 16-core Ryzen 3000, this board really only needs 6 phases/power stages. The other 8 are for show, and so you can pay more for the board?
Who knows what overclocked zen3 will use
yeah, this is the motherboard i want, because is the only one with passive chipset
Dual power connectors halve the impedance between the PSU and motherboard, as such I would expect the dynamic response of the power supply to be better at responding to load transients - especially when CPU boost varies per core.
22:55 - could I fit something like Creative Sound Blasted AE-9 in there?
Thanks for the editing, it makes it way better and more interesting that with all his usual ramblig about everything
An indirect "BUILDZOID EDITION" motherboard made by Gigabyte.
Awesome vid. I wonder how much effort it really takes to design a board like this. If you think about it, over-engineering is easier than designing with reasonable safety factors where you really have to balance your risk assessments for every component is harder. Especially for a board like this where the only differentiator is the overbuilt VRM, much of the price is likely down to component cost and margins to cover lower expected demand compared to more reasonable models.
Turn the overclock speed up to "Plaid"
No. We'll have to go all the way to... LUDICROUS SPEED
Der8auer video about boost clocks shows that this board is the best board for getting the best boost clocks out of all the new boards.
These motherboard companies are building some monster boards and I imagine they were given Ryzen samples to build the board around. Ryzen 3 could be a freakin beast.
Wish they had included PLX for an "Xtreme" edition.
I haven't seen a PCI-e 4.0 PLX chip yet and if it exists it's probably like 200USD since the 8747 which is 3.0 cost around 80USD.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Great point, didn't think about needing a pcie 4.0 version of a PLX!
I want this motherboard almost purely because of its looks. It is COMPLETE overkill for anything I would use it for.
But that BIOS and software...OMG....do they have something in their corporate charters that literally says "make the software suck on EVERY level" or something?
I feel more excited for VRMs every video even if I still don't really unconsciously understand why they matter. Looks like the board to pair with the 12/16 core CPUs
No. BZ would love this board to overclock soon to be released 3400G.
@@KarrasBastomi This board is too much for any CPU probably :D You don't need this at all for the 12 core :D
in my own pc's ... starting with a celeron of the pentium 4 era, a few core 2 duos and up to AMD FX and X99 ... i have owned 4 gigabyte boards (socket 478/two lga775/AMD 970 none had any issues) 1 msi board (lga775 - no issues), 2 Asus boards (lga775 - audio chip died / X99 - the board itself died)