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Hey Steve, could you place the Stellaris result on the charts? With proper annotations it would look so silly and from the parts of the stream I've seen you seemed to entertain the idea at least as a joke.
I thought the 9800X3D was a 16-core/32-thread chip? Or am I that far out of the loop on tech news (I admit to not keeping up with it as I have missed a few generations) to really know right now? If you could clarify, that would be great. Whenever I saw an 8 after the first digit, I thought it was a slightly lower clocked 16-core/32-thread CPU like the 9900X3D would be the higher clocked version and the 9800X3D would be the lower clocked version or is that wrong? I am not trying to be dumb here, I am just asking out of genuine curiosity.
@alecday3775 9800 is 8 core, 9900 is 12 core and 9950 is 16 core. Always been that way. X3D just means that one core complex has 3D VCache. For the 9800 all cores have access to it, the 9900 X3D (when it launches) has 6/12 cores with the 3D cache and 9950 X3D 8/16. 9800X is clocked faster than 9700X, both with 8 cores. Has been that way since the 3000 series
I'm a HazMat tanker driver specializing in compressed, refrigerated liquids like Co2 and nitrogen. It's nice of you to show the safety aspects and dispel some of the BS.
I'm a dermatologist and I feel the same. Great video and good that you talk about the properties of liquid nitrogen! I use it on patients to intentionally freeze lesions on the skin, of course, but it has to be treated with proper respect and you can cause a lot of damage with improper use.
yea, as someone whos worked with ln2, the gloves are more if you are handling it constantly, so the freezing effect of the piping you're holding doesn't get your hands, for quick uses it's better not to, as a small amount of spillage will typically roll off. Or as they pointed out, go down your glove and will actually harm then. Gloves are to stop burning contacting the equipment for hours not the nitrogen contact itself
You guys have got the right idea about gloves. That's how we do it in the labs at my university department as well. The thickness of gloves needed to actually protect you from exposure will rob you of so much dexterity that it's often safer to forget about the gloves and simply be more careful and dextrous.
Like the 7800X3D vs 7950X3D, the extra 8 cores makes it a bit slower. That's due to the higher demand for the fast 3D cache memory. I would like to appreciate a cpu like a Snapdragon. 8 high performance cores with 3D Cache only and 4 " efficiency " cores with huge ammount of L1 cache and let's talk about like 256KB per 1 core so 1MB of L1 cache. No hyperthreading, just 12 core madness with the most fastest cache ever. No one ever built a cpu like that. And it will change the path of a changes that AMD right now offering to us. Nor intel or AMD built a cpu with higher ammount of L1 cache and L1 cache is the fastest because it's running at clock speed speeds with nanoseconds of latency. Everybody just focusing on L3 cache but the L3 cache is only 4-6 times faster than DDR5 RAM to CPU bandwidth. L1 cache is almost 100x faster than the fastest DDR5 RAM
The chip could be " slower " but with a lack of hyperthreading, there will be much more room to add a larger L1 cache or atleast higher L2 cache because L3 cache is sometimes only 2x faster than ram, sometimes 4-6 times faster, depends on the cpu cache design and memory controller in a cpu
Or i will build a cpu without a L3 cache. Just boost a L2 cache to around 8MB per core shared with all the cores so 12 cores 96MB of L2 cache together and 256KB L1 , 128 for the instructions and 128 for the data per each core so together 3MB of L1 cache, add a higher clock speed and you will make a cpu atleast 40% faster then 9800X3D cpu, probably outperforming highly overclocked 9800X3D on LN2.
Hey steve and crew i remember in the latest hardware news you were looking to get another Ryzen 7 9800x3d, my local store in MN has quite a few FYI. PS love the setups and just the random chaos of the prep and educational stuff. Even get my 5 year old watching the factory tours !
I did not get a chance to catch the livestream, and I'm not going to have time to watch the VOD for the foreseeable future, so I really appreciate the condensed version and pregaming. Thanks Steve and everyone else.
@@ZackSNetwork And that's where most viewers here are using it for. They take the slightly less performance to another CPU, because they are not in the production segment. For that there is another AMD processor underway, that probably flip around and gives better production performance and slightly less game performance. At least you have a choice by then.
Even though i watched the entire stream i decided to watch again. Glad I did because it was mostly behind the scenes and set-up. Sure looked fun, i love watching your XOC, it brings back memories of my good old tinkering days. Thanks, Steve.
Gotta love physics. Liquid nitrogen by itself if it pours on bare hand, you don't even feel it because it evaporates instantly. our body temperature is so high for LN2 that it turns into gas on impact. But everything else that has already frozen by it is dangerous for hand
On a convex part of your hand. Don't pour it on your palm, where it can collect into a small pool. The leidenfrost effect doesn't last for very long under those conditions.
Man i love it when good cpu's launch and we get to see epic LN2 runs by guys like yall... Truly the pinnacle of what it means to be a tech enthusiast :D
Damn, that's nuts. My air cooler pushes it to 5.5Ghz with a -30 Curve Optimizer Undervolt and mid/high temps around the 70s. I have to do some more optimization tho
That "pillage the CPU room" coming from this man with THAT beard? I believed every syllable. :D Was such a fun video! Never watched LN2 stuff before, so this was a great intro to it for me. Thank you!
wow this is a great video. my homie and i just put together his new pc, right before 9800x3d launched, with a 7800x3d. i feel really bad that i didn't tell him to wait
The 9800x3d is technically a "new" architecture with the V-cache on the bottom. We don't know it's longevity/failure rates. Early adopters usually get the short end of the stick. So the 7800x3d is still a great choice. Down the line you can either upgrade via the used market or major discount sales. So it's all gucci
I think the improvement for Stellaris came from the fact that it forced the game to use discrete cores rather than SMT threads, which in theory improves performance quite a bit. Given SMT improves performance by 30-35% on Zen 5 during an all core workload, if the threads aren't scheduled properly, you could theoretically end up with decreased performance with SMT if the CPU isn't running at 100% lead.
@GamersNexus yeah, I meant to say part of the gains, but I blanked out for some reason 😅 Some games still seem to benefit from turning off SMT on cores that support it, perhaps because of scheduling issues. Might be an interesting avenue to explore how much that's still the case. It also makes me wonder whether scheduling played any part in Intel ditching SMT on Arrow Lake, besides the gains in die space and alleged core to core latency reduction.
Bearded and steve together is amazing content. They vibe together well and theyre my favorite videos. The amount of knowledge between them, it would be a dream to hangout and do some XOC
I wish Intel could put some price pressure on AMD so I can afford their products. Honestly, in 50 years, has Intel ever been so behind as they are now? It's not just the pressure from AMD, it's Nvidia, it's it's freaking Apple and ARM.
Great Chemistry. Would be amazingl to see you two work together more often. Can just imagine some cool builds using both your skillsets / creativity to "make awesome".
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Nice over clocker
Seems kinda cuckoo 😏
It should be illlegal for laptops to throttle if a fan isnt installed and without a work around.
Now that was fun.. Steve always stealing my stuff!
nice. stev€´$ äir is the bends n cyrrlce öFF ouR teäch vvöRLD ^?^
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Hey Steve, could you place the Stellaris result on the charts? With proper annotations it would look so silly and from the parts of the stream I've seen you seemed to entertain the idea at least as a joke.
I REALLY like how you guys formatted this. I wasn't able to watch the whole livestream so this is wonderful. =)
Thank you! This is an experimental format and we really liked it!
@@GamersNexus we really liked the stream and cooperation and this reformatted - we love. Thank you for your great work!
Same here!
Absolutely, I hope to see this being done with future livestreams.
@@GamersNexusyea this is real good content.
8:29 “I’m allergic to ASUS” lmao
man i laughed hard LOL
Lmaooo 💀
I too am allergic to bullshit
🤧
That's a sus statement.
Tech jesus + tech santa, what a blessed undertaking!
Backshots off camera 🤣
INTEL IS STILL BETTER OVERALL
amd is just slightly more decent in gaming...
COPE COPE COOOOOPE
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP don’t need to cope when you’re the one sucking off a company worth 100x more than you’ll ever make in your life.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVPL ragebait
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP yep especially their last 2 gens
Please summarize future livestreams like this! It was a blast and easier to go over, thanks:)
23:44 - the fact that an 8-Core CPU is getting close to a 32 Core Threadripper from just a few years back is totally nuts!
Not 24 core but 32 core!!!! Even more insane
such a beast of a cpu
cache ipc clock and memory bandwidth all do wonders. its so much fun since you csn overlckock again
I thought the 9800X3D was a 16-core/32-thread chip? Or am I that far out of the loop on tech news (I admit to not keeping up with it as I have missed a few generations) to really know right now? If you could clarify, that would be great. Whenever I saw an 8 after the first digit, I thought it was a slightly lower clocked 16-core/32-thread CPU like the 9900X3D would be the higher clocked version and the 9800X3D would be the lower clocked version or is that wrong? I am not trying to be dumb here, I am just asking out of genuine curiosity.
@alecday3775 9800 is 8 core, 9900 is 12 core and 9950 is 16 core. Always been that way. X3D just means that one core complex has 3D VCache. For the 9800 all cores have access to it, the 9900 X3D (when it launches) has 6/12 cores with the 3D cache and 9950 X3D 8/16.
9800X is clocked faster than 9700X, both with 8 cores. Has been that way since the 3000 series
I'm a HazMat tanker driver specializing in compressed, refrigerated liquids like Co2 and nitrogen. It's nice of you to show the safety aspects and dispel some of the BS.
I'm a dermatologist and I feel the same. Great video and good that you talk about the properties of liquid nitrogen! I use it on patients to intentionally freeze lesions on the skin, of course, but it has to be treated with proper respect and you can cause a lot of damage with improper use.
yea, as someone whos worked with ln2, the gloves are more if you are handling it constantly, so the freezing effect of the piping you're holding doesn't get your hands, for quick uses it's better not to, as a small amount of spillage will typically roll off. Or as they pointed out, go down your glove and will actually harm then. Gloves are to stop burning contacting the equipment for hours not the nitrogen contact itself
I misread driver as diver and thought "How the fuck does someone dive into frozen CO² and survive?"
as a daily cyclist to work and back, i have nothing to add to this comment chain
@@0Blueaura as a tank truck driver myself i too have nothing to add lol
love seeing the two of you do LN2 overclocking, always a great time
So much fun working with Joe! I love doing this stuff. Even just the build-out is really fun and different.
INTEL IS STILL BETTER OVERALL
amd is just slightly more decent in gaming...
COPE COPE COOOOOPE
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP yep especially their last 2 gens
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP you must be venting about losing the election.
@FO0TMinecraftPVP ayo, Userbenchmark, is that you? Welcome!
That Joe still has his beard is a wonder seeing him play with the torches
The beard oil probably reinforces it.
@@GamersNexus oils are typically very flammable
@@NJ-wb1cz Not Joe's. He uses the ancient Norse stuff.
@@GamersNexus there's hardly anything more Nørse than a guy with a sick flaming beard
@@GamersNexus Aah, moose droppings. Very nice.
Thanks for condensing it down to 30 minutes! Very entertaining. Props to your editor for getting it together so quckly😊
You guys have got the right idea about gloves. That's how we do it in the labs at my university department as well. The thickness of gloves needed to actually protect you from exposure will rob you of so much dexterity that it's often safer to forget about the gloves and simply be more careful and dextrous.
Yep it's exactly the same in various construction trades iron work, scaffolding, rigging but try explaining that to safety idiots.
This was awesome! I hope you two do another video for the 9950X3D when it ships!
If it exists :D
Like the 7800X3D vs 7950X3D, the extra 8 cores makes it a bit slower. That's due to the higher demand for the fast 3D cache memory. I would like to appreciate a cpu like a Snapdragon. 8 high performance cores with 3D Cache only and 4 " efficiency " cores with huge ammount of L1 cache and let's talk about like 256KB per 1 core so 1MB of L1 cache. No hyperthreading, just 12 core madness with the most fastest cache ever. No one ever built a cpu like that. And it will change the path of a changes that AMD right now offering to us. Nor intel or AMD built a cpu with higher ammount of L1 cache and L1 cache is the fastest because it's running at clock speed speeds with nanoseconds of latency. Everybody just focusing on L3 cache but the L3 cache is only 4-6 times faster than DDR5 RAM to CPU bandwidth. L1 cache is almost 100x faster than the fastest DDR5 RAM
The chip could be " slower " but with a lack of hyperthreading, there will be much more room to add a larger L1 cache or atleast higher L2 cache because L3 cache is sometimes only 2x faster than ram, sometimes 4-6 times faster, depends on the cpu cache design and memory controller in a cpu
Or i will build a cpu without a L3 cache. Just boost a L2 cache to around 8MB per core shared with all the cores so 12 cores 96MB of L2 cache together and 256KB L1 , 128 for the instructions and 128 for the data per each core so together 3MB of L1 cache, add a higher clock speed and you will make a cpu atleast 40% faster then 9800X3D cpu, probably outperforming highly overclocked 9800X3D on LN2.
@@samohraje2433you dont know how cpu design works l3 cache exists for a reason. Its more efficient on die area which is crucial for cpu design.
AMD is consistently making bangers while intel is just getting less relevant man
It's bad. They'll go out of business if something doesn't change.
@@B_MachineNah, they still dominate OEM and laptop market. AMD is currently dominant in DIY, but intel still has plenty of time to figure it out.
I'm hoping that Intel is in the slump amd was in during the fx series.
INTEL IS STILL BETTER OVERALL
amd is just slightly more decent in gaming...
COPE COPE COOOOOPE
I know my dude
I remember the story of how that tube of Vaseline was obtained that was told many OC livestreams ago. :D
hahaha, the store clerk was very confused!
What was the story?
@@DankbeastPaul Steve and Joe went together to a store to buy that tub. Just picture those two, grabbing just that, and going to the cash register.
This must be the geekiest biker gang I've ever seen.
As long as some muscular dude doesn't come in saying "I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle" in a deadpan voice.
@@Somebody374-bv8cd Replace motorcycle with maintain bike.
Thanks for this because I saw the livestream come on but just couldn’t sit down for all of it at once.
8:29 this had my wheezing
it had me sneezing
This is awesome. I couldn't stick around for the whole stream when it was live, so this is awesome. Great vid
I love Joe's on-screen presence and personality. It makes for a very entertaining video
19:19 „I think of the Tool song“
Tow men of culture 👌😌
Love the dynamic between you and Joe.
The 9800X3D is -an- Insane -Overclocker-
Fixed the title, you’re welcome 😛
Very accurate!
INTEL IS STILL BETTER OVERALL
amd is just slightly more decent in gaming...
COPE COPE COOOOOPE
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP are you userbenchmark?
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP yep especially their last 2 gens
@@cyko5950 nobody can compete with intel and how FAST their chips die
This is SUPER chill to watch. I love everything you guys do. Keep em coming!!!
1:59 that’s a great cold start diesel you got there.
Sounds like a Kazakh News Reporter practicing tongue twisters before a broadcast
Joe is such a delight on screen! Hoping for more collabs in the future
You two together are a blast to watch.
Love working with Joe!
this was edited really well, very good watch so far
Thanks for the Recap GN, was hoping for a video like this! I don't quite have the time for the 4,5h video 😅
The moment you mentioned The Pot you got my subscription and like...
Hey steve and crew i remember in the latest hardware news you were looking to get another Ryzen 7 9800x3d, my local store in MN has quite a few FYI. PS love the setups and just the random chaos of the prep and educational stuff. Even get my 5 year old watching the factory tours !
Watched the stream, the recording of the stream, and now this, because it was just that damn great! Awesome job you guys, I love these OC vids
Its nice to see behind the scenes. Instead of cookie cutter. Its just different and awesome. Thanks yall for such a great video.
please do more videos the duo of you. such a wholesome watch, thanks.
The hair man and the beard man. Together, they have everything and nothing.
I'm all for this format as a recap!
I've learnt with this video that Steve listens to Tool.
With that hair it's basically a requirement to listen to Tool.
Everybody should ;)
Which tool?
Tool is great. I wish I had hair like that.
This format works, do this next time too.. most of the time i dont have the time for the big ol streams and this was great.
Tech Jesus and the Overclock Viking. Praise the gods
So sick loved seeing how u actually built the setup
6:39 : Steve slowly pushing back the orange GigaBOOM box... LOL
I did not get a chance to catch the livestream, and I'm not going to have time to watch the VOD for the foreseeable future, so I really appreciate the condensed version and pregaming. Thanks Steve and everyone else.
Please summarise live streams like this going forward, it was great! 👍
What a great demonstration of the leidenfrost effect
Just the goat CPU.
For gaming
@@ZackSNetwork And that's where most viewers here are using it for. They take the slightly less performance to another CPU, because they are not in the production segment. For that there is another AMD processor underway, that probably flip around and gives better production performance and slightly less game performance. At least you have a choice by then.
The editing on this is absolutely epic
19:19 it's such a good song, too. One of my favorites--which totally took me by surprise because I was prepared to hate that album.
One of the best.
Really enjoy the videos with Joe!!
Thanks Steve!
The stream vod 1st time I seen ppl do that. Was cool to see the OC stuff. That bearded dude is cool and pretty smart.
Video starts at 0:01
Don't trust him, it starts at 0:00
There's a lot of important context and information in the first second
@@NJ-wb1cz thank you. i would not have understood the video if i started at 0:01
damn I skipped to 0:02
Darn my audio started playing only at 0:03 I missed some important stuff.
i always skip to 0:69
Even though i watched the entire stream i decided to watch again. Glad I did because it was mostly behind the scenes and set-up. Sure looked fun, i love watching your XOC, it brings back memories of my good old tinkering days.
Thanks, Steve.
Gotta love physics. Liquid nitrogen by itself if it pours on bare hand, you don't even feel it because it evaporates instantly. our body temperature is so high for LN2 that it turns into gas on impact. But everything else that has already frozen by it is dangerous for hand
On a convex part of your hand. Don't pour it on your palm, where it can collect into a small pool. The leidenfrost effect doesn't last for very long under those conditions.
Man i love it when good cpu's launch and we get to see epic LN2 runs by guys like yall... Truly the pinnacle of what it means to be a tech enthusiast :D
big bearded man doing nerdy stuff. gotta love it
I watched part of the live stream without context. Thanks for the followup/roundup info.
Damn, that's nuts. My air cooler pushes it to 5.5Ghz with a -30 Curve Optimizer Undervolt and mid/high temps around the 70s. I have to do some more optimization tho
That "pillage the CPU room" coming from this man with THAT beard?
I believed every syllable. :D
Was such a fun video! Never watched LN2 stuff before, so this was a great intro to it for me. Thank you!
21:48 I'm not one for ASMR, but that was the nicest-sounding typing I've ever heard.
Oh dam
I didnt have time to watch this when it was live so thanks for making it a video
I've already seen the stream, but let's watch this anyway ^^
Thanks for the short version, I didn't have the time to follow live! :)
ZZ Top and Tech Jesus overclocking.
watching the stream was so fun! thanks guys you are the best
its confirmed, sasquatch is real 0:21
wow this is a great video. my homie and i just put together his new pc, right before 9800x3d launched, with a 7800x3d. i feel really bad that i didn't tell him to wait
The 9800x3d is technically a "new" architecture with the V-cache on the bottom. We don't know it's longevity/failure rates. Early adopters usually get the short end of the stick.
So the 7800x3d is still a great choice. Down the line you can either upgrade via the used market or major discount sales. So it's all gucci
@4:08 - if the glove don't fit, you must acquit
It was you and Joe that got me into ln2. With the 2080 ti kingpins.... still have my mouse pad signed by both of you sealed lol.
tech jesus and the overclocking viking
Glad to see Joe is back!!! Great stream!!! Great numbers!!!
Dudes like a friendly giant.
I love these entry level overclocking videos. GJ guys. Great vid.
I think the improvement for Stellaris came from the fact that it forced the game to use discrete cores rather than SMT threads, which in theory improves performance quite a bit. Given SMT improves performance by 30-35% on Zen 5 during an all core workload, if the threads aren't scheduled properly, you could theoretically end up with decreased performance with SMT if the CPU isn't running at 100% lead.
Part of the performance did. If you look, we got from 25.8 to almost 21 with SMT still on. It's just those last 2 +/- seconds that came from SMT off.
@GamersNexus yeah, I meant to say part of the gains, but I blanked out for some reason 😅
Some games still seem to benefit from turning off SMT on cores that support it, perhaps because of scheduling issues. Might be an interesting avenue to explore how much that's still the case. It also makes me wonder whether scheduling played any part in Intel ditching SMT on Arrow Lake, besides the gains in die space and alleged core to core latency reduction.
Watched the stream, loved it. Great recap, enjoyed it all over.
Thank you so much for the consolidated video on this here!
Literally 90% of PC community commenters: "OVERCLOCKING IS DEAD"
GamersNexus: "Hold my LN2"
Can i use gloves?
Why are you talking like LN2 can bring the value back to overclocking?
This is just testing the boundaries.
Great stuff, really cool to see the start to finish on your process. Keep it up Steeeeeeve!
2 views and 23 likes. 1000% of the views like the video.
Thats GN quality!
I had fun watching this! thanks team ... I also learned new stuff about overclocking ... this must be the best channel about PC
Nice beard 👍🏻
I like Steve's hair more
Sick ! Thanks for the recap and BTS, Joe's a wizard
"I'm allergic to asus" brilliant 🤣
Good stuff fellas. Enjoyed the full vid and recap!
can't even buy the Ryzen 7 9800X3D ..... here we go again
Bearded and steve together is amazing content. They vibe together well and theyre my favorite videos.
The amount of knowledge between them, it would be a dream to hangout and do some XOC
Santa & Jesus are busy overclocking
What a monster!
The 9800X3D is very impressive too!
Guys just buy an o2 monitor, cost a few £ and dont have to *hope* the ventilation is up to the job, you'll *know*
Really love the timestamps. Very helpful here
2024 in a nutshell:
Intel Bulldozer
VS
AMD Core
More like AMD Skylake
Hope to see more overclock stream videos, this was really good but quite short.
I wish Intel could put some price pressure on AMD so I can afford their products.
Honestly, in 50 years, has Intel ever been so behind as they are now? It's not just the pressure from AMD, it's Nvidia, it's it's freaking Apple and ARM.
Watching the Sunday Overclocking was fun, Thanks Guys:}
"I'm allergic to ASUS" 🤣
Such a fun video. Glad you did a recap of this
The only unanswered question is how much stolen hardware was Joe able to hide in his beard when leaving GN HQ?
Great Chemistry. Would be amazingl to see you two work together more often. Can just imagine some cool builds using both your skillsets / creativity to "make awesome".
Day 7 of requesting Gamers Nexus (Steve) to thermal test lian li o11 vision compact with 11 fans configuration.
There is not a particular reason we'd do that right now. Sorry.
@@GamersNexus Well, that's alright. Thank you for replying.
I listened to the live stream and fell asleep just after 6ghz so thanks for this :D
INTEL IS STILL BETTER OVERALL
amd is just slightly more decent in gaming...
COPE COPE COOOOOPE
ah yes, only 50% better
@@GamersNexus expressed as a decimal thats less than 1
yep especially their last 2 gens
so userbenchmark is a fucking weeb. cringe.
What a nice outcome, good work guys.