Big cams, bigger valves, dry sump. Forged rods pistons, higher compression and 9k rpm. 4.08 rear with lsd. And you will have something greater than the sum of its parts!
There aren't very many NA straight 6s in the world to compare it to that sound that great, especially with pumped up with six trumpets playing congo, but there are a few from the 90s for racing purposes that would wind out to 9k rpm that would absolutely scream! Relatively gutless but modern standards at a whopping 300hp, but the song on the way there is unbelievable.
The best sounding NA inline-6 would be the S20 engine on Hakosuka Skyline GT-R. Something that you would love to hear for hours Here's a Hakosuka GT-R clip for the curious ears: ruclips.net/video/dMtMhdxN6hA/видео.html And a S30 Fairlady Z clip too: ruclips.net/video/MdouU7YyG3A/видео.html
@@pillowrex811 Top 5 and above for sure! I have a rather old Option DVD that had a Hako feature that I watched/listened to on repeat back in the day (I didn't check your clips yet which may be one of those uploads. If so, ignore that!) but yes, that is a Wonderful engine! ❤
I'm currently working on something like this. The 2jz would be in going in a Mitsubishi Starion though. So i'm looking forward to see you make more progress on your car too.
So cool. One of my favorite things about the RB26 motor was the way they integrated ITBs into a turbo motor. Maybe someday I can rig something like that up for a 2JZ. Would be so sick. Love the sound!
I'm running Brian Crower 272 cams but they're specifically for non turbo (2JZGE) application, as far as I'm aware the GTE ones aren't compatible but happy to be told I'm wrong!
What itb's are you using and what you gonna do for trumpets/filtering/plenum? I've been wondering about adapting the S54 M3 itb and plenum on the 2j. Definitely healthy output for a stock long block. Very encouraging.
I checked other vids so I now know where the itb's came from. Pricey but then building a kit from scratch is a major endeavour...especially since this is such a rare setup. Kudos for going through with it. Certainly transforms its character.
@@papapetad Thanks mate, been a hell of a journey but worth it for that noise alone! Plan is to add on some filter socks rather than a full airbox, hopefully keep the most of the induction noise. Think i've seen some people start on the M3 itb route, but not 100% sure i've seen a finished build so would be keen to see a finished one!
@@PiersBailey These itb 2j builds are gonna remain unicorn status. It's probably significantly cheaper to do a S54 swap than build a 2J anywhere near that standard with fully forged internals and high compression.. But frankly, even at about 250hp crank, you're winning, especially when you know you're not gonna get raped by ze germans come maintenance time. And the 2j sounds better 😜
@@papapetad definitely, especially when it's potentially cheaper and easier (in terms of guides etc) to just turbo the 2J anyway. To be fair , there's always the possibility of turbo-ing the itb setup if I fancied it further down the line which really would be an interesting take, now that's unicorn status haha
@@krinkov2875 Ha, that's what I had in mind as well for "simplicity" re. Adapting tb's to factory 2j runners (to retain factory injector setup) and figured side by side clearance could be an issue...and that's before taking into account all the other things you mentioned... It's quite the undertaking. Tricky. No wonder off-the-shelf itb kits cost a pretty penny... Looking forward to seeing more and thanks for the details. Peace.
It’s a solid question, theoretically yes, but there’s still a few little problems left to sort before I can actually drive it. Will definitely do a video on it when it’s fully drivable 👍
@@meusana3681 Tons of other engines like the v8 ls can make more na power ...That's not the point of a itb setup, this guy ain't looking for power an it would only be a waste if he blew up a block and most high hp k20 and k24's I see blow up but no one cares because they are cheap ....
@@trilliamogdlocog4986 First off. I referenced a 2l straight 4, not some 6l LS. Second, the video title was "what power will an NA supra on throttle bodies make" my answer is none. Which was a gag, and any1 with more than 2 brain cells would read it, and go about their day. And 3rd, high end k20As don't just blow up, you really need to neglect it or give it an unsafe tune. You kinda said it yourself, the reason you see some of them blow is cuz people push them past what they should. You won't push a $5k 2JZ block past what it should, unless you're rolling in cash...I've never seen a K motor blow up, and I've never seen a JZ blow up, nor did I say push it to 1000hp. So I literally have no clue what you are talking about. Nor did I say 180whp isn't fun. I have a NA vg30e making 160 to the fronts, and its the best car I own. And 4rth, If you gave me $15k to spend on a a 1000+hp engine build, I'd go straight to k20 full billet everything, completely ignoring 2JZ as well. Yall internet warriors need to get this 1000hp 2jz shit out of your heads, it's be best 600hp street motor you can have, with plenty of torque and lots of headroom. But as it stands, that NA motor is just a money pit with no return on investment. Can't drag it, can't drift it, can't even track with it. So why tf is power a topic of discussion? Still IN MY OPINION (apparently having an opinion is controversial these days) NA JZs sound like shit, make shit power, and is a waste of a 5K block.
@@meusana3681 Since you like k20a so much let's see what your working with?? I haven't seen any video of your build well I can look up a cheap ass 2jz nat pushing 800whp with forged piston and a few minor upgrades that are far less then 15k$.... Not to mention other inline 4 engines that would get more or about the same hp numbers without having to deal with a awd/rwd conversion etc most k20 and cheap k24s builds are fwd and that in its own is a disadvantage..Don't get me wrong thoe those hondas etc have probably the best power to weight ratios but ever since folks start putting 2jz's in a ae86 and other light weight chassis the k series really only has the benefits of being cheaper to build depending on how much engines folks run threw like Hert and his k swapped 240sx went threw like 3 blocks before he even got his k series dialed in lol now that's a waste of a good engines ...
Ok, that sounds sick, like potentially more sick than a turbo
Half the power, double the smiles 🤙🤙🤙
@@PiersBailey better throttle response, too, I'd imagine.
Big cams, bigger valves, dry sump. Forged rods pistons, higher compression and 9k rpm. 4.08 rear with lsd. And you will have something greater than the sum of its parts!
I mean that would be incredible lets be honest, always got to have something to aspire to!
@@PiersBailey "Aspire to" I see what you did there.
Wonder how it would go with vvti and higher compression!
would need 14:1 compression stroker with race fuel and some gnarly cams
Can you put the vvti onto the non vvti engine?.
@@Supraboyes Yes, blocks are the same.
@@Supraboyes just change the head.
And electrical fans instead of mechanical 👀
There aren't very many NA straight 6s in the world to compare it to that sound that great, especially with pumped up with six trumpets playing congo, but there are a few from the 90s for racing purposes that would wind out to 9k rpm that would absolutely scream! Relatively gutless but modern standards at a whopping 300hp, but the song on the way there is unbelievable.
that's what it's all about!
The best sounding NA inline-6 would be the S20 engine on Hakosuka Skyline GT-R. Something that you would love to hear for hours
Here's a Hakosuka GT-R clip for the curious ears: ruclips.net/video/dMtMhdxN6hA/видео.html
And a S30 Fairlady Z clip too: ruclips.net/video/MdouU7YyG3A/видео.html
@@pillowrex811 Top 5 and above for sure! I have a rather old Option DVD that had a Hako feature that I watched/listened to on repeat back in the day (I didn't check your clips yet which may be one of those uploads. If so, ignore that!) but yes, that is a Wonderful engine! ❤
BMW E36
You should listen the Argentinian straight sixes
Sounds amazing, I'm really tempted to put the bike carb kit from DanST engineering on my 2J once it's in my Datsun.
Thanks mate! Why not, sound trumps all!
That sound is unreal
oh hey a supra that actually sounds good!
I'm currently working on something like this. The 2jz would be in going in a Mitsubishi Starion though. So i'm looking forward to see you make more progress on your car too.
2J in a starion would be incredible! Thanks mate hopefully more videos coming soon
Awesome man and well done
Nice power
Sounds and looks awesome brother✌🏾
So cool. One of my favorite things about the RB26 motor was the way they integrated ITBs into a turbo motor.
Maybe someday I can rig something like that up for a 2JZ. Would be so sick. Love the sound!
Completely agree mate! I do wonder what it would sound like turbo'd, whether it would ruin the sound or add to it. Maybe someday I'll find out!
Lots of modern (and not so modern) race cars have turbo engines with ITBs so it can be done, but will be expensive and complex
Sounds awesome 👌
Beautiful music 🎶 🎵 👌 nice ITB setup.
Jaffie love it
Yes Jaffie!! Pleasure to meet you today mate!
Are you running cams for this build? Wondering if gte cams work with GE
I'm running Brian Crower 272 cams but they're specifically for non turbo (2JZGE) application, as far as I'm aware the GTE ones aren't compatible but happy to be told I'm wrong!
What itb's are you using and what you gonna do for trumpets/filtering/plenum? I've been wondering about adapting the S54 M3 itb and plenum on the 2j. Definitely healthy output for a stock long block. Very encouraging.
I checked other vids so I now know where the itb's came from. Pricey but then building a kit from scratch is a major endeavour...especially since this is such a rare setup. Kudos for going through with it. Certainly transforms its character.
@@papapetad Thanks mate, been a hell of a journey but worth it for that noise alone! Plan is to add on some filter socks rather than a full airbox, hopefully keep the most of the induction noise. Think i've seen some people start on the M3 itb route, but not 100% sure i've seen a finished build so would be keen to see a finished one!
@@PiersBailey These itb 2j builds are gonna remain unicorn status. It's probably significantly cheaper to do a S54 swap than build a 2J anywhere near that standard with fully forged internals and high compression.. But frankly, even at about 250hp crank, you're winning, especially when you know you're not gonna get raped by ze germans come maintenance time. And the 2j sounds better 😜
@@papapetad definitely, especially when it's potentially cheaper and easier (in terms of guides etc) to just turbo the 2J anyway. To be fair , there's always the possibility of turbo-ing the itb setup if I fancied it further down the line which really would be an interesting take, now that's unicorn status haha
@@krinkov2875 Ha, that's what I had in mind as well for "simplicity" re. Adapting tb's to factory 2j runners (to retain factory injector setup) and figured side by side clearance could be an issue...and that's before taking into account all the other things you mentioned... It's quite the undertaking. Tricky. No wonder off-the-shelf itb kits cost a pretty penny... Looking forward to seeing more and thanks for the details. Peace.
225 whp with only ITB? or what other power mods did you have at the time?
That was with the uprated cams (272) as well as exhaust manifold and full exhaust
How did you do that with no maf sensor
Are you running a standalone ecu?
Yep! Link G4
Get rid of the mechanical fan and you'll easily gain some hp.
*Wait wait wait...This is a 2JZ-GE? Oh one that has been modified to GTE grade, minus the turbo?*
Es un GE, la tapa de Cilindros es distinta al del GTE
What are the specs on the cams? And are you using an oem headgasket?
Brian Crower 272° 9.52/9.65mm lift, and yep OEM headgasket
Is a ITB 2jz-ge daily- ish drivable?
It’s a solid question, theoretically yes, but there’s still a few little problems left to sort before I can actually drive it. Will definitely do a video on it when it’s fully drivable 👍
@@PiersBailey alrighty then sounds good I'll definitely be looking forward to it
IS THAT TORQUE CORRECT?
It is not, I'm not actually sure what the torque figures were. But I can assure you it's not putting out 700+lb/ft...
Definetly not
1 step forward and 2 steps back, yes you've freed up the intake but its breathing hot engine bay air in 🤦♂
Short answer. None.
Lmao na 2jz's dynos around 180hp to the wheels this car made a considerable increase 🤣
@@trilliamogdlocog4986 You can get 220 from a k20A no problem, this is just a waste of a 2jz block.
@@meusana3681 Tons of other engines like the v8 ls can make more na power ...That's not the point of a itb setup, this guy ain't looking for power an it would only be a waste if he blew up a block and most high hp k20 and k24's I see blow up but no one cares because they are cheap ....
@@trilliamogdlocog4986 First off. I referenced a 2l straight 4, not some 6l LS. Second, the video title was "what power will an NA supra on throttle bodies make" my answer is none. Which was a gag, and any1 with more than 2 brain cells would read it, and go about their day. And 3rd, high end k20As don't just blow up, you really need to neglect it or give it an unsafe tune. You kinda said it yourself, the reason you see some of them blow is cuz people push them past what they should. You won't push a $5k 2JZ block past what it should, unless you're rolling in cash...I've never seen a K motor blow up, and I've never seen a JZ blow up, nor did I say push it to 1000hp. So I literally have no clue what you are talking about. Nor did I say 180whp isn't fun. I have a NA vg30e making 160 to the fronts, and its the best car I own. And 4rth, If you gave me $15k to spend on a a 1000+hp engine build, I'd go straight to k20 full billet everything, completely ignoring 2JZ as well. Yall internet warriors need to get this 1000hp 2jz shit out of your heads, it's be best 600hp street motor you can have, with plenty of torque and lots of headroom. But as it stands, that NA motor is just a money pit with no return on investment. Can't drag it, can't drift it, can't even track with it. So why tf is power a topic of discussion?
Still IN MY OPINION (apparently having an opinion is controversial these days) NA JZs sound like shit, make shit power, and is a waste of a 5K block.
@@meusana3681 Since you like k20a so much let's see what your working with?? I haven't seen any video of your build well I can look up a cheap ass 2jz nat pushing 800whp with forged piston and a few minor upgrades that are far less then 15k$.... Not to mention other inline 4 engines that would get more or about the same hp numbers without having to deal with a awd/rwd conversion etc most k20 and cheap k24s builds are fwd and that in its own is a disadvantage..Don't get me wrong thoe those hondas etc have probably the best power to weight ratios but ever since folks start putting 2jz's in a ae86 and other light weight chassis the k series really only has the benefits of being cheaper to build depending on how much engines folks run threw like Hert and his k swapped 240sx went threw like 3 blocks before he even got his k series dialed in lol now that's a waste of a good engines ...