Andy, great video as always, it wouldnt do any harm to explain in basic terms what a device does at the start of the video, it's use cases and the like. Its just we have a lot of new people entering the space so it's helpful for starters.
Algorithm showed me the thumbnail. Thought it was a smartphone. This comment implies it's not. Halfway through the video i have no idea what's going on.
this is a massive, huge upgrade in actual usability. thanks for the update Andy -- you just got yourself a subscriber for staying so closely on top of this!
You can get 2 days because that UI is designed to not enable Bluetooth since it is meant to be a full standalone unit. Leaving the Bluetooth disabled cuts down on consumption by almost half.
@@OllieVK yes bud, that is a widely known fact, but that is not the question he asked in video. I am fully aware as I wrote a lot of the recent code to improve the power consumption bud.
@@robonator2945 Heltec has the Wireless Paper node devices with e-ink, cheap to, only $15, though I'm sure they are very outdated on performance vs the TDeck
Once I bought two t-decks and one of them got the same laggish problem. However, I found that somewhat a little tini tiny capacitor near the touch screen conector had high ESR, so I removed it and solved the lag. Maybe during the soldering the capacitor got damaged or was a bad batch from the supplier. According to the schematic there are three capacitors near the touch screen connection, two of them are on the vcc (CW6 10uf, CW7 100nf) and one on the reset line (CW24 100nf), maybe CW24 was leaky and pulling the reset line low enough causing intermitency. Could be this thing happening on the plus version too? By the way very nice review.
Still working right now no problems, the capacitor is just a decoupling between reset and ground to avoid reduce noise, but I also noticed that the resistor RY35 went low on value, don't know why, 500 ohms, too low for a pull up resistor, the value should be above 2k7. So I removed it too, the MCU already have a internal pull up. But anyway, very strange defects. On my firmware I wrote a spi scanner checking for peripherals before starting the sistem itself, also helped. I hope they fixed on the newer boards.
Hey Andy, been using you to track the meshtastic progress since I experimented with some of the first t-beams that came out. There are only about 4 devices active in my city within 200km so I thought I might get into it again and set up dome solar nodes on the biggest high points for everyone's benefit. It would be really cool to see you pull all your devices out in one video and go over what you would recommend currently for different use cases and which ones have become obsolete. Right now I've got a bunch of heltec mesh nodes in the cart for this project but if you have alternative recommendations it would be good to hear! Thanks for the vids!
Hey, glad you like the video. It's good you are thinking of setting up some good nodes to help the mesh. Take a look at the RAK wisblock devices, their built in solar input works very well indeed. It's still a good idea to use a battery protection module on your battery so that the node will restart if the battery depletes and solar energy returns to the panel.
You know what would be cool with these - WML over LORA, common pages could be cached to save on downlink bandwidth, would be awsome to have both the messaging ability plus a rudimentary web-like interface. Waiting on my first one to come through the post from Etsy, the one with blackberry keyboard. Going to get to grips with that and maybe order the touchscreen version.
Looks good. At this step is just a pity not having a water-resistant case already included. Antenna-wise also seems like a problem to get proper reception at some range. Anyways, it is an excellent upgrade in a short time since the previous one.
Hey, join my discord to keep up to date with the progress. We have a GUI firmware channel there now. You can sponsor the project if you like it and help the main developer get it finished 😁
good video thanks. I've been wanting to get into Meshtastic for a while and I think this would be a good device to get started on. One question though: what frequency should I get for use in the UK? Thanks.
Its a capacitive touch screen brother! You need to press a little harder than that. Think like the pressure needed to get the cash out of the atm at your bank. It's a good deal of finger force. $70 won't even cover the cost of a multi touch screen at volumes t-deck produces at.
E-Paper! The display needs to be E-Paper! Also the radio needs to be hackable for wider frequencies. To make the network more secure you need to do burst broadcasting on wide frequencies to make it harder to track.
Pardon my ignorance but this just seems to be a glorified walky talky. I thought a good use case for this would be if the grid went down but the mesh limitation of 1-3 miles reenforces my previous point. Please correct me if I’m wrong
My wife and I are often in the middle of nowhere with no mobile signal. We occasionally split up and take different routes and, for safety, we are on radios. They're a pain due to the size and antenna flapping around. The little meshtastic boards can go in a pocket and have very good range. They are also capable of broadcasting the GPS location, which is a great improvement over radios where someone has to manually find their position and communicate it. I'm experimenting with a node on the dog as most trackers need a mobile signal. Also looking at these for SAR teams.
@@TheMRTVIDTo be more precise it allows for a meshtastic node that doesn't need a client such as a smartphone connected in order to give people the whole experience.
If I could just have a phone with intelligence but without "intelligence". High quality everything but without companies ruining/deciding what I can't and can't do. Simple terminal interface that can view images, play music, call people, create notes, long battery-life and NO high end OS that wears everything down and looks hideous with all those childish, idiot-proof icons and colors.
@@andykirby Thanks but De-googled isn't enough. Maintenance is a pest. Something very simpel like a linux kernel with modem software would be preferable imo. But it doesn't really exist yet.
Can i get that lily t deck and use the screen and keyboard in a rasberry pi 0 or a slimmed down pi 4b ? Very curious abkut that or at least the keyboard
I get the feeling that this is just a big scam with more and more devices coming out by the same vendors and the real use case being super small ...and the software being basically always beta or alpha state.
Andy, great video as always, it wouldnt do any harm to explain in basic terms what a device does at the start of the video, it's use cases and the like. Its just we have a lot of new people entering the space so it's helpful for starters.
What, you mean every video should have a brief explanation of what meshtastic is?
@@dingdingdingdiiiiingI didn’t say that, read my comment again, it’s fairly self explanatory.
So what does it do. I’m giving up after 2 mins.
Algorithm showed me the thumbnail. Thought it was a smartphone. This comment implies it's not. Halfway through the video i have no idea what's going on.
Lost interest because I didn't understand what it was all about. 😢
the future but we always go back to the old looks. I love that Black Berry Look. I'm glad i'm subscribed.
It's a brand new Meshberry! :D :D Probably Blackberry would have been better off building Meshberries instead. lol
Post apocalyptic Blackberry, nice!
They really should iron out the quirks before the horsemen saddle up.
Behold the brand new Meshberry! :D :D
this is a massive, huge upgrade in actual usability. thanks for the update Andy -- you just got yourself a subscriber for staying so closely on top of this!
You can get 2 days because that UI is designed to not enable Bluetooth since it is meant to be a full standalone unit. Leaving the Bluetooth disabled cuts down on consumption by almost half.
Very true 😁👍🏻👋🏻
not just BT bud, the ESP32 is horribly inefficient compared to the SX126x series chips.
@@OllieVK yes bud, that is a widely known fact, but that is not the question he asked in video. I am fully aware as I wrote a lot of the recent code to improve the power consumption bud.
now that I think about it, an E-ink display of some sort on something like these seems like it'd be great.
@@robonator2945 Heltec has the Wireless Paper node devices with e-ink, cheap to, only $15, though I'm sure they are very outdated on performance vs the TDeck
Just da Video I was looking for as Always Tanks for your efforts😂
Looking good. I hope one day we will be able to get LoRa as standard in our mobile phones.
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these! There is even a punch out port at the top for an external antenna!
Imagine getting a LoRa chip in the latest smart phone! The Samsung LoRa net Note 40+ loaded with Meshtastic from the factory!
Just ordered one! Can’t wait to see how a fully functional unit goes.
Once I bought two t-decks and one of them got the same laggish problem. However, I found that somewhat a little tini tiny capacitor near the touch screen conector had high ESR, so I removed it and solved the lag. Maybe during the soldering the capacitor got damaged or was a bad batch from the supplier. According to the schematic there are three capacitors near the touch screen connection, two of them are on the vcc (CW6 10uf, CW7 100nf) and one on the reset line (CW24 100nf), maybe CW24 was leaky and pulling the reset line low enough causing intermitency. Could be this thing happening on the plus version too? By the way very nice review.
does yours still work after you removed that capacitor? tempted to do that too.
Still working right now no problems, the capacitor is just a decoupling between reset and ground to avoid reduce noise, but I also noticed that the resistor RY35 went low on value, don't know why, 500 ohms, too low for a pull up resistor, the value should be above 2k7. So I removed it too, the MCU already have a internal pull up. But anyway, very strange defects. On my firmware I wrote a spi scanner checking for peripherals before starting the sistem itself, also helped. I hope they fixed on the newer boards.
Ok when you going to show how to put the fancy ui on it ?
Damn wish they still made phones with full keyboards like the blackberry style 😭
check out the Unihertz Titan.. I think they're still available.
There's still a few. The unihertz titan series is pretty good
@@chistinelane that's what I said like 2 weeks ago but my comment is gone for some reason (thanks RUclips)
@@chistinelane Nice thanks!
Definitely going to buy one if this comes to the market!!!
Please could you check if you can connect better antenna to this device?
You can. There’s a knockout on the top. Website shows it.
Hey Andy, been using you to track the meshtastic progress since I experimented with some of the first t-beams that came out. There are only about 4 devices active in my city within 200km so I thought I might get into it again and set up dome solar nodes on the biggest high points for everyone's benefit. It would be really cool to see you pull all your devices out in one video and go over what you would recommend currently for different use cases and which ones have become obsolete. Right now I've got a bunch of heltec mesh nodes in the cart for this project but if you have alternative recommendations it would be good to hear! Thanks for the vids!
Hey, glad you like the video. It's good you are thinking of setting up some good nodes to help the mesh. Take a look at the RAK wisblock devices, their built in solar input works very well indeed. It's still a good idea to use a battery protection module on your battery so that the node will restart if the battery depletes and solar energy returns to the panel.
You know what would be cool with these - WML over LORA, common pages could be cached to save on downlink bandwidth, would be awsome to have both the messaging ability plus a rudimentary web-like interface. Waiting on my first one to come through the post from Etsy, the one with blackberry keyboard. Going to get to grips with that and maybe order the touchscreen version.
nice nice, ill definitely snag one once the kinks are ironed out
skeptical about the internal lora antenna. looking forward to tests versus an externally attached antenna.
Idk if youve answered ghis yet or not but what solar panel did you use in the back of the t-deck?
Any update or news on the UI firmware for the t-deck?
Looks good. At this step is just a pity not having a water-resistant case already included. Antenna-wise also seems like a problem to get proper reception at some range. Anyways, it is an excellent upgrade in a short time since the previous one.
I like the old look to it
Question Andy..... Where have you found to be the best place to buy to latest T Deck from? Cheers
Aliexpress is one option.
Thanks, will have a look.
Cheers for the update.
@andykirby. Since you give feedback to the developer on the fancy UI, is the going to be an updated version anytime soon?
I think I'll wait this one out another year.
Any idea when the new firmware will be properly released? Very excited about it. Can't wait for the map to be functional.
Hey, join my discord to keep up to date with the progress. We have a GUI firmware channel there now. You can sponsor the project if you like it and help the main developer get it finished 😁
have you opened it and checked to see if you can drill an antenna mount and upgrade the antenna
good video thanks. I've been wanting to get into Meshtastic for a while and I think this would be a good device to get started on.
One question though: what frequency should I get for use in the UK? Thanks.
Thanks, UK freq is 869.525 MHz, the device will automatically set it when you select your region.
@@andykirby Thanks. I've just ordered one! 🙏
Is the hardware different, you are talking about lower sleep consumption. Have they developed the internals further?
Its a capacitive touch screen brother! You need to press a little harder than that. Think like the pressure needed to get the cash out of the atm at your bank. It's a good deal of finger force. $70 won't even cover the cost of a multi touch screen at volumes t-deck produces at.
finally a phone dat fits my needs
Great vid!! Is that a G-SHOCK GBD-200????
Great video Andy, love it, keep it up please,
E-Paper! The display needs to be E-Paper! Also the radio needs to be hackable for wider frequencies. To make the network more secure you need to do burst broadcasting on wide frequencies to make it harder to track.
No no no not dreadful e-paper please!🤣
Now how does one know what mhz to go for? Seems like a lot of options on the purchase list...
Will the 915 ghz version still work in the UK or do I need the 868 version? Thanks
Need 868 for UK
@@andykirby Thanks
The day that new firmware is finally released for general use, these T-Decks will go out of stock overnight. 😂
Where do you get the firmware for this device? I’ve just turned mine on and standard meshtastic is already installed lol
Is it possible to use T-Deck Plus as a portable device thats tells you its time to buy och sell stocks based on own indicators.
What firmware did you use, and where did you find it!? Lol
hi, can you give us the fancy ui firmware you are using. impossible to recover it. thank you in advance...
Nice one Kirby !
Hi, where can i get this FW to my T-Deck?
Ah, a new Blackberry with Meshtastic support 😁
It’s a working progress
Where do you find GUI firmware to test? I have searched for it multiple times and today as well.
No love, perhaps one of the other subscribers will share it?
It's not general release yet, only beta test developers
How is the Microphone and Audio used in Meshtastic?
Mic is not used currently. Speaker is used for message notifications.
It's a TEXT system....
What is it?
Blackberry next gen & hoping its multi spectrum & multifunctional
really enjoy your videos😅😅
Sad they dont make an eInk option.
I thought the t-deck plus was the same hardware with a case, gps, and battery?
Still waiting for mine to show up...
Can i still get one.
Great video
Awesome
For the love of god. Where do I get that firmware for my goddamn tdeck?!?!?
Try this github.com/meshtastic/firmware/actions/runs/10554039713
Vaporware
Has that firmware reappeared yet?
Yes there's builds available for testing.
Where do you find it?
So, in a nutshell, it's a fully decked out t-deck?
Better than a Beepy!!! I wonder if its possible to install a 4g modem.
HEY HELLO
You could talk about the fantastic
Unihertz TANK 2 PRO
With projector
👍 😎
Anyone knows a board/device with both qwerty keyboard and camera ?
Blackberry Q10 phone
Don't know what it is but I want one 😅
Please bring audio
Pardon my ignorance but this just seems to be a glorified walky talky. I thought a good use case for this would be if the grid went down but the mesh limitation of 1-3 miles reenforces my previous point. Please correct me if I’m wrong
So what do you do with it, text people???
Nice video, God bless.
It reminds me of the blackberry 9000
Perfect！
nice gadget, too much you know saying .. i want this badboy
Guys hear me out , let's get DOOM running on this
I'm sure someone has done it!
Don’t know why this came up in my feed …but why would I ever need something like this just curious?
Lookup meshtastic 😁
It's a HAM Radio/Doomsday toy...
My wife and I are often in the middle of nowhere with no mobile signal. We occasionally split up and take different routes and, for safety, we are on radios. They're a pain due to the size and antenna flapping around.
The little meshtastic boards can go in a pocket and have very good range. They are also capable of broadcasting the GPS location, which is a great improvement over radios where someone has to manually find their position and communicate it. I'm experimenting with a node on the dog as most trackers need a mobile signal.
Also looking at these for SAR teams.
Mesh Blackberry
这次屏幕终于居中了？
It looks really good, but the inability for the touch screen to work reliably, is an issue.
It's a faulty capacitor on the LCD power rail. Unfortunately some Chinese parts are batches of fakes 🫤
What dies it do novice here
Lookup meshtastic 😁
@@andykirby thamks
@@TheMRTVIDTo be more precise it allows for a meshtastic node that doesn't need a client such as a smartphone connected in order to give people the whole experience.
It's a HAM Radio/Doomsday toy...
2000 mah is 2 ah
"Whoops hit the reset" ... yep sounds like another lillygo device alright
"Keyboard letter styles are sent randomly" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
god fucking dammit i just ordered the original 2 days ago
Vaporware
@@farmerdave33 Uhh, no, I received one today
Wow They Made a Blackberry..lol
it's missing camera and flashlight
It doesn't have a reasonably fast way to transmit pictures. Well, maybe WiFi or Bluetooth?
LILYGO and buttons - looks like for every device you have to 3d-print something to prevent accidental button pushes. 🤐
If I could just have a phone with intelligence but without "intelligence". High quality everything but without companies ruining/deciding what I can't and can't do. Simple terminal interface that can view images, play music, call people, create notes, long battery-life and NO high end OS that wears everything down and looks hideous with all those childish, idiot-proof icons and colors.
Look up de-googled smartphones there's a few options for OS's that run on modern hardware.
@@andykirby Thanks but De-googled isn't enough. Maintenance is a pest. Something very simpel like a linux kernel with modem software would be preferable imo. But it doesn't really exist yet.
Then MAKE IT!
YOU ARE THE DREAMER OF DREAMS! @@resonanceofambition
looks like a blackberry
It does!
this looks great, however what does it do! haha i have NO idea 🤣
can work if dont like uk censorship
Can i get that lily t deck and use the screen and keyboard in a rasberry pi 0 or a slimmed down pi 4b ? Very curious abkut that or at least the keyboard
I really do want one!
But what the fuck would i need one for?
Meshtastic 😁
@@andykirby My friend you're going to have to expand on that for Me to pull the trigger and buy one.
What the hell is it???😅
I get the feeling that this is just a big scam with more and more devices coming out by the same vendors and the real use case being super small ...and the software being basically always beta or alpha state.
I get the feeling that you’re a boonie
Wow, 20 year old technology, today.
What is this thing? 😂
No service needed. No wifi or mobile signal. It’s off grid comms for free.
battery is too small.
2 days on latest firmware. It's fine.
10-minute twatwaffle about hey this is new…. All about that hustle, more videos to apese the algorithm.. Not that spectacular.
Just don’t watch and carry on with your miserable life.
Wtf is it. Might help you saying that at the start
Apologies, this is for Meshtastic and development.
WTF happened to your hair?
Cut 🤷🏻♂️
Better off chucking money at a WizMesh Pocket and just using your phone.