TPH E17 | "Match Bullets Suck at Hunting" : A Rant of Sorts
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2022
- Today we are discussing on article we recently read, and took issue with. Here we discuss our thought process behind Match Bullets and their role in hunting.
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We’ve discussed how I feel about the match bullets. They’ve done everything I’ve needed them to do.
Based on his analogy, hunting with a rifle further than bow range isn’t hunting. Hunting with a bow further than you kill your prey with a rock isn’t hunting. Lol😂 things evolve.
Soooo...my 300 short drops 44.8 inches at 500 yards with a 185 berger VLD. And I'm shooting a pretty low velocity load for that rifle at 2830fps. The last elk I shot at 660 was crushed and dead before it hit the ground. The wound channel was horrible. The heart was jello. The hide did catch the bullet and I believe I still have it. Funny though a coues buck I shot at 440 with a Match king took a round in the lungs that punched through and was dropped with a follow up that went through the front shoulder and lodged in the opposite hip. Shattered the hip. Ruined the ham and most of the shoulder and stayed intact mostly. All the burgers we put in rib cages, I mean that animal is dead within steps. Idk..whatever
Really just depends on jacket thickness on match/target bullets and mechanical v molecular bonding core -to-jacket in hunting bullets. Bottom line - learn what your bullet of choice does at various ranges and have a reason for shooting it and you don't really need 45min to explain it!
I only hunt with match grade projectiles!😂
Since 2015 all I use is ELD-M's in my 6.5 Grendel and 6.5 Creed and they've been lights out. I did a deep dig study into them before ditching the ELD-X... Like seeing terminal performance results in ballistic gel from nearly point blank out past 700 yards on gel blocks that were even made using an actual deer scapula/shoulder bone inside the block and a deer hide over the outside. The ELD-M just performed better overall. I also learned from Hornady what happened to the AMAX bullet design people have hunted with for eons... they put a new ballistic tip on that design and call them an ELD-M!
Long range shooting is beyond my abilities and experience. Longest shot I’ve ever taken at any game animal is probably with a bow. Most deer I’ve killed with guns have been within 50 yards and I’ve shot at a deer with a bow at 70. Just where I live and the type of hunting I’ve done hasn’t allowed me to take long shots and I’ve never practiced shooting any of my guns past 50 yards. I’d like to get into semi long range shooting some day but I’m need a better rifle than my 30-30! I still like listening to what y’all have to say.
If y’all like this article. Go watch a few videos of the “The Gunsmith”.
The issue I have with long range hunting is, when you're shooting at game at 800, 1,000 yards and the time of flight is in excess of a second, it doesn't matter how proficient you are, if that animal moves as you've broken the shot, you cannot allow for that variable. External and terminal ballistics are not your primary considerations if you gut shoot the animal and it runs for miles.
Every time I’ve shot a deer with a Hornady eld-x inside 100 yards the bullet has blown into pieces without ever making it to the offside shoulder. Perfect example of a hunting style bullet acting pretty similar to a lot of “match” bullets.
I prefer the Federal Terminal Ascent bonded 175 gr. from my .30-06. However, I’m in Mississippi and shoot at whitetails inside 3-400 yds, usually inside 200. Lots of bullets will kill animals. The key is to know your abilities as a shooter and know the abilities/limitations of the cartridge and projectile you’re using. Pretty simple. Also, I’m from the school of 2 holes is better than 1, I like a through and through. Just my 2¢ from my experience.
I hunt with a custom 6.5 PRC. Been running the 147eld-m. Havent had one not exit on game from 60yd-515yds. Know your weapon be proficient on shot placement.
Love the content, keep it up. Found this channel recently and have really enjoyed it, good stuff guys.
Seriously, one of the best hunting/shooting podcast out there.
Love the podcasts man, I listen while at work in my air pods and you guys always hit shit right on the head 👌🏼
Great show thanks and I need more Alex Jones impersonations lol
Lol. For the record we really enjoy the 7mm rem mag with berger vlds 168s through 180s. Devastating on elk and deer.
Honestly i think a big problem is most people dont have a range past 200yd near by. For me its an hour to get to anywhere i can shoot past 100.
A great podcast every week!
Listen guys we love yalls content! I've been chasing my tail for several years about "the perfect whitetail load" I'm seriously considering running my og this year which is a 168gr amax. Should I not be scared to shoulder shoot a monster with one?