Why Marian Hossa Left The Penguins THEN Left The Red Wings

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @codfishbricker
    @codfishbricker Год назад +45

    I was pissed when hossa signed with the Wings. I remember being 11 & going on Myspace & sending mean messages to every "Marian Hossa" profile hoping I'd eventually find the man himself.

    • @RackEmRack
      @RackEmRack Год назад +6

      Lmfao damn

    • @goodfella8143
      @goodfella8143 Год назад +1

      Not cool bro

    • @codfishbricker
      @codfishbricker Год назад +4

      @@goodfella8143 11 year old me cannot be stopped. He'll bowl you over, pal

    • @TingTingalingy
      @TingTingalingy Год назад +1

      @@codfishbricker you seem like you've never changed, just as deranged.

    • @codfishbricker
      @codfishbricker Год назад +1

      @@TingTingalingy He'll ya brotherrrr. Isn't that what life's all about? Remaining as emotionally stunned as you were as a child

  • @CaptainFantastik1
    @CaptainFantastik1 Год назад +23

    As a Pens fan I appreciate Hossa being willing to circle back and be open about that process. In the end it worked out for everyone.

    • @nickmatthewsmusicstudio
      @nickmatthewsmusicstudio Год назад +1

      Worked out for the Penguins, Hossa didn't help the Wings at all. Possible one of our worst free agent signings

    • @jjrighteousxx13
      @jjrighteousxx13 Год назад +1

      We probably would have never got Kunitz

    • @NESADDICT
      @NESADDICT Год назад +1

      I bet he couldn’t believe it when he lost with Detroit.

    • @nickmatthewsmusicstudio
      @nickmatthewsmusicstudio Год назад

      @@NESADDICT I bet he was still getting paid by Pittsburgh, and they made him a 2009 champion ring

    • @mrgreekgm754
      @mrgreekgm754 Год назад +2

      @@nickmatthewsmusicstudio L.

  • @futuresequence.
    @futuresequence. Год назад +40

    So many memories watching this guy. What a career. I've had to hear my grandpa say the Leafs need guys like Hossa for about 15 years now. He'll never let the dream go even after he retired.

    • @slimrick
      @slimrick Год назад

      matthews Hossa like two way player sniper

    • @PR0MOTE
      @PR0MOTE Год назад

      Who's your grandpa's modern day comparable?

    • @futuresequence.
      @futuresequence. Год назад

      @@PR0MOTE he just keeps talking about Hossa. I'll ask him to try a different name next time 😉

    • @DR.DisInfect
      @DR.DisInfect Год назад

      Not a leader

    • @PR0MOTE
      @PR0MOTE Год назад

      @@futuresequence. guy jumped on the Hossa train and never got off eh

  • @ItsMe-on6tt
    @ItsMe-on6tt Год назад +11

    Fantastic, memorable player. The man was a star for many years.

  • @PENS68
    @PENS68 Год назад +7

    It worked out for The Penguins, had they signed Hossa, they probably would have lost Jordan Staal earlier than they did. Jordan Staal was a key part of The Penguins winning The Stanley Cup in 2009.
    Staal also was apart of the trade tree that ultimately landed The Penguins Nick Bonino and Brian Dumoulin, who were both key pieces in the Penguins back to back cups in 2016 and 2017.

  • @sandymigs1158
    @sandymigs1158 Год назад +9

    the balls on Hossa, telling Mario " i'll get back to you" lolol

  • @Recon6delta
    @Recon6delta Год назад +8

    Wow that decision was crazy! His reaction when the big dog calls is hilarious 😂! Oh snap it’s super Mario

  • @jacoballen4189
    @jacoballen4189 Год назад +18

    As much as I hate the Pens I hated Hossa more when he jumped ship to Detroit. Always felt like he gave up for greener pastures. Basically the Durant before Durant. Glad to finally hear his side of things and now that I'm older I understand where he's coming from.

    • @radovanbabjak7903
      @radovanbabjak7903 Год назад

      I don't understand the 'jumped ship' argument especially from non Pens fan. He got traded there not because he chose to. And it worked out for everyone anyway

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 Год назад +3

    I enjoyed watching Hossa play. What an amazing player. However, I’m a Pens fan and I’ve seen many great players come and go since I started watching since 1975. I’m a fan of the Logo not just 1 player.

  • @stephendominie6456
    @stephendominie6456 Год назад +10

    Hossa was unreal too watch

  • @klompsauce
    @klompsauce Год назад +36

    Franzen over Hossa cost us big and if we would’ve kept him, the window would’ve been open longer

    • @HoweyJR_
      @HoweyJR_ Год назад +3

      Red wings didn’t need hossa to begin with

    • @jasonjohnston4766
      @jasonjohnston4766 Год назад +4

      Yea but if we could’ve kept him and got rid of the mule we would’ve been able to probably get another cup

    • @HoweyJR_
      @HoweyJR_ Год назад +2

      @@jasonjohnston4766 maybe so but DET was fine with what they had but oh well it was some good years watching the pens & wings battle as a Sabre fan I enjoyed those finals more than anything recent

    • @ScarecrOmega
      @ScarecrOmega Год назад

      Franzen had monster playoffs from '08 to '10 and had a 4 and 5 goal game, but no one could have predicted his concussion problems he would get. Of course a healthier Hossa would have been the better option.

    • @Ohhelmno
      @Ohhelmno Год назад

      Keep in mind that Franzen was the right decision, it’s only because of injuries that Franzen isn’t like a historic figure in Detroit, because he was a hell of a performer in the playoffs when he was healthy until the concussions and injuries, which you can’t really foresee happening to the extent they did.

  • @adamrichmond6348
    @adamrichmond6348 Год назад +3

    I remember the trade deadline when they got Hossa, it was crazy enough my mother called me at work to make sure I heard haha. Even though he left and the Pens traded Malone to Tampa to make the cap space for him it was still the best rental I could have imagined. Guy was a great player and I was also extactic they beat him after but happy he won some in Chi town.

  • @ImsoUT1
    @ImsoUT1 Год назад +12

    Get Max Talbot on here!

  • @insaneiaq
    @insaneiaq Год назад +2

    “Ohhh Hossaaaaa you chossaaaa the wrong guys!” 🎵🎶

  • @jeremyapache
    @jeremyapache Год назад +8

    I will never forgive Ken Holland for letting him walk. Still my favorite player though, even after signing with Chicago. Just an absolute stallion out there.

    • @dr.loomis4221
      @dr.loomis4221 Год назад +4

      Ken Holland really is a quite average GM. He was blessed with talented people around him throughout most of his Red Wings tenure. Really made him look better than he is.

    • @jleif7736
      @jleif7736 Год назад +2

      @@dr.loomis4221 Lol, Ken Holland literally drafted so many damn studs back in the day for the Wings... We literally won 08 Cup because of his great Draft picks.

    • @chardeemacdennis3852
      @chardeemacdennis3852 Год назад +1

      It was basically Franzen or Hossa. Franzen looked like a future 40 goal scorer at that time so I didn't have a problem with it. And should have been if not for the concussion issues.

    • @joesantangelo1
      @joesantangelo1 Год назад +1

      @@jleif7736 you can thank our S tier scouting staff for drafting those players. Dude flat out rode Develano’s coattails for years lmao. Hakkan Andersson was responsible for such finds as Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Fischer, Nyquist, Tatar, Kronwall, and so on. It’s noted he’s average. He’s also the king of literally the worst free agency signings in the league. Ian White, Abdelkader, Nielsen, Weiss, Helm, Coliacavo, I can go on for days. Dude was an absolute bum after 09.

    • @joesantangelo1
      @joesantangelo1 Год назад

      @@chardeemacdennis3852 even when healthy Franzen was wildly inconsistent

  • @dougdavis169
    @dougdavis169 Год назад +4

    Like so many others I was happy when you won it in chi town.

  • @TheChronicFiend
    @TheChronicFiend Год назад +2

    A true legend!

  • @TheZillatattoo
    @TheZillatattoo Год назад +1

    Yeah, my god. Osgood was in talks for the conn smythe in 08. He was even better in 09. Congrats to Pittsburgh in 09, great series.

  • @standardyeepz
    @standardyeepz Год назад +6

    datsyuk hossa franzen was the sickest line

    • @The-Capitalist
      @The-Capitalist Год назад +2

      So was Kane Toews Hossa or Sharp Toews Hossa

    • @standardyeepz
      @standardyeepz Год назад +1

      @@The-Capitalist i’m taking a line with datsyuk and hossa over any body lol. you could put abdelkader on it and they’d be fine lol

    • @The-Capitalist
      @The-Capitalist Год назад

      @@standardyeepz Datsyuk was in a league of his own. But Toews and Kaner in their prime would be a better line than any 3 on Detroit.

    • @standardyeepz
      @standardyeepz Год назад

      @@The-Capitalist lol ok

    • @standardyeepz
      @standardyeepz Год назад

      @@The-Capitalist datsyuk turned abdelkader into almost a 30 goal scorer. when datsyuk left abdelkader couldn’t even stay in the league when his contract ran out. a contract that datsyuk earned him. him and zetterberg alone can stand up to any of chicagos lines. pick whatever forward you want for the last

  • @peopletalking1953
    @peopletalking1953 10 месяцев назад

    Just amazing going to the finals 3 times in a row with 3 diff teams. That’s a lot of hockey!

  • @dereksendrak
    @dereksendrak Год назад

    Great interview!!

  • @tmoore4075
    @tmoore4075 Год назад +4

    I loved him in Detroit. I never knew how good he was until I saw him play 82 games here. He was a much better player (overall) than I had given him credit for. Oddly enough though, had he stayed in Pit, I don't think they win in 09 and Detroit probably doesn't get to finals without him either. That alternate universe out there where he stays would be interesting to see.

  • @NESADDICT
    @NESADDICT Год назад

    I’ll never forgot the trade deadline and getting hossa the last minute and everyone saying Pittsburgh won the best deadline acquisition.

  • @waynemclean1799
    @waynemclean1799 Год назад +7

    So strong along the boards. Sens made a mistake trading Hossa for Heatley.

    • @roach19pr
      @roach19pr Год назад +2

      Heater had back to back 50 goal seasons. They had the best line in hockey and and made it to the finals.

    • @waynemclean1799
      @waynemclean1799 Год назад +4

      @@roach19pr yes he did. Then fell off a cliff, while Hossa won cups. Heatley had no work ethic and burned out early.

    • @roach19pr
      @roach19pr Год назад +1

      Yes, he won cups after swapping teams 3 more times. With Senators history of trading their star players await I think they got a pretty good return at that point. It was a good hockey trade. I agree Heater burned out quick and had nowhere near Hossa's work ethic but he did well with the Sens.

    • @waynemclean1799
      @waynemclean1799 Год назад +1

      @@roach19pr Heatley certainly lived up to his name. Those were the good years in Ottawa. 👍

  • @user-bf5vi6yg8n
    @user-bf5vi6yg8n Год назад +1

    Great interview

  • @chrisphillips348
    @chrisphillips348 10 месяцев назад

    I FREAKED OUT when Hossa signed with us!! Then cried when he left. Still rooted for him, especially in WC with Team Europe?

  • @youlikedyourowncomment5151
    @youlikedyourowncomment5151 Год назад +9

    What made Detroit so good? They had arguably the 2nd best defencman of all time.

    • @JaknDax
      @JaknDax Год назад +11

      When Pavel Datsyuk is your 2nd liner, need I say more? Talented team.

    • @thegreatestking2817
      @thegreatestking2817 Год назад +9

      Rafalski was hella underrated as well

    • @alexyerkey3141
      @alexyerkey3141 Год назад +16

      I’d give Lidstrom the title of best d man of all time

    • @HunterMagunter
      @HunterMagunter Год назад +2

      @@alexyerkey3141 bobby orr would skate circles around lidstrom

    • @tonybleau6219
      @tonybleau6219 Год назад +1

      @@alexyerkey3141 it's Orr by a country mile. Lidstrom is second or third with Ray Bourque being up there.

  • @dublinpub5363
    @dublinpub5363 Год назад +6

    HOSSSS! Champion w/ the Winterhawks! 3x Champion w/ the Blackhawks!

  • @ogreman-lll-957
    @ogreman-lll-957 Год назад

    He was a fan favorite

  • @everybodywantstoruletherad279
    @everybodywantstoruletherad279 Год назад +1

    To me. Hossa was the best free agent signing in Chicago sports. At least top 3

  • @fringeminority3224
    @fringeminority3224 Год назад +5

    You can't blame hossa the Detroit Red Wings basically owned the NHL from the mid-90s all the way up to the end of the 2000s. President's trophies and Stanley Cups Non-Stop

  • @Sam-xu3xq
    @Sam-xu3xq Год назад

    One of my favorite hawks

  • @Mopo3oB44
    @Mopo3oB44 Год назад +3

    You guys kidding me with these adds?

  • @slimrick
    @slimrick Год назад +3

    lmao left him on read they way biz pronounces it

  • @ReDevil2_2A
    @ReDevil2_2A Год назад

    It was as if the Hockey Gods had cursed him lol. He loses the Cup 1st against the Wings, then as a Red WIng loses to the Pens...but I swear that he could see what was happening here in Chicago and I am sure that players with the Hawks were in touch and he was basically told that they thought he was that final piece they needed. And...the day I saw on the news that he signed with us, I knew it...and it was the truth. Those Hawks teams from 2009-2016, and yes I am biased, but I think they were the best Team in the League and maybe of all time. That 2012-13 Hawks team that began the season without a regulation loss in 24 Straight games, which projected over an 82-game season to 132 Points and would have tied the All-Time Single Season record for points in a season by a team.

  • @Connor8609
    @Connor8609 Год назад +2

    It comes down to one thing ; he underestimated Sid and his core. It all came out in the wash anyway though they all won 3 cups in the end, but they probably robbed themselves of more.

    • @dustinweber1945
      @dustinweber1945 Год назад

      I really don't think hossa staying would have added any cups for the pens

    • @RackEmRack
      @RackEmRack Год назад

      Red wings were still the better team in 09. That team was STACKED

    • @swy334
      @swy334 Год назад +2

      @@RackEmRack always found that type of argument hard to prove

    • @travelista7572
      @travelista7572 Год назад

      He never underestimated anyone. He would have loved to keep playing with Sid, but at the same time he felt he needed to go to Detroit in order to learn from the players (and couches) there and grow as a player.
      Ever heard the saying 'to be the best, you need to learn from the best'? In addition to being great offensively, he learned there how to be even better defensively and Pavel Datsyuk helped him a lot to achieve this goal. Niklas Lidstrom and his play also had impact on him, it's no coincidence he asked him to come to announce him when being inducted to Hall of Fame.
      As he said, it was hard to leave Pittsburgh, but without going to Detroit, he wouldn't have become the player he was.

    • @Connor8609
      @Connor8609 Год назад

      @@RackEmRack Crosby was coming into his prime in 2010 / 11 they were definitely better by then.

  • @augustusanderson6949
    @augustusanderson6949 Год назад

    Hbk line was the shiznit back to back cups.

  • @one7decimal2eight
    @one7decimal2eight Год назад

    That had to be a hard pill to swallow after losing 2 in a row with 2 different teams. But imagine losing 3 in a row with 3 different teams...

  • @gaslandrights1745
    @gaslandrights1745 Год назад +6

    It was great the following year when the Pens beat him. Karma

  • @shawncordeiroTerraceBC
    @shawncordeiroTerraceBC Год назад +1

    i musta missed this in the 3hr vid

  • @righteous247
    @righteous247 Год назад

    i was very happy when he went to detroit.

  • @Pens724
    @Pens724 Год назад +3

    Pens fans loved seeing him crying after losing the year he left. Very satisfying.

  • @brianjansen3103
    @brianjansen3103 Год назад

    As a pens fan it was comical to see him leave & go to Detroit... ooops!

  • @ogieoglethorpe3788
    @ogieoglethorpe3788 Год назад +1

    as a life long pens fan i never had any animosity or trashed him when he left. he played great when he was here and losing him was always on the table because he was a pending UFA at seasons end. the only thing about him leaving that was infuriating was that shero seemed to have no plan B and waited to long on hossa to decide instead of realizing they were out of the race and moving on to do something else

  • @Lott.Z
    @Lott.Z Год назад +1

    I still fucking hate that he left for Detroit after those finals

  • @musicman76enator
    @musicman76enator Год назад

    Czech GOAT!!

  • @funkycoldzadina
    @funkycoldzadina Год назад

    This still pisses me off. Hossa already took a discount to sign with Detroit. Then Holland gives him a laughable offer the next summer. Holland says "I have to earmark 3 million for Jiri Hudler." No you don't! You get Hossa signed then tell Hudler he can play in Russia. He did anyway. Holland then signs Jason Williams to replace Hossa. Jason Williams!!!!! 😭

  • @thesuneversets
    @thesuneversets Год назад

    What I don’t understand is why Chicago retired his number

  • @miguelh4750
    @miguelh4750 Год назад +2

    Edmonton thrown under the bus lol

  • @The-Capitalist
    @The-Capitalist Год назад

    He wanted to join a dynasty in the making, the Chicago Blackhawks.

  • @username19960
    @username19960 Год назад +2

    I forgot he only played a few months in Pitt and then Pitt made it there life goal to beat Hossa in the Finals....I remember the comment "we wanted to shake his hand and yell him he chose the wrong team."
    After a few months....Hossa didnt play 15 years there....that's really pathetic actually on Pitts part

    • @thesuneversets
      @thesuneversets Год назад

      Who won the cup? He def choose poorly 😂

    • @username19960
      @username19960 Год назад

      ​@thesuneversets ..I think you're watching cartoons and can't understand my cartoon

    • @username19960
      @username19960 Год назад

      ​@@thesuneversets you don't understand my comment. The Shits burg fan base hated a guy who only played ..i....dunno 36 games for their organization..
      The fan base is actually retarded

  • @DoublechecktheY
    @DoublechecktheY Год назад

    Sens

  • @mino4258
    @mino4258 Год назад

    Great player but as a Pen fan I still can't like him. Also beating him made the Cup just little sweeter in 09!

  • @augustusanderson6949
    @augustusanderson6949 Год назад

    Yelling hossa when he'd score as a Pen, I wish he stayed. Go pens

  • @goodfella8143
    @goodfella8143 Год назад +1

    So basically he's saying he didn't want to leave pitt and he felt bad and "froze" in the finals and let them win..

  • @stomachhurts2044
    @stomachhurts2044 Год назад +4

    Where’s the fkn rest bro don’t play with my emotions ima hawks fan

  • @ethanrakell7009
    @ethanrakell7009 Год назад

    Then Torres rubbed him out in Chicago.

  • @joshmacphee8666
    @joshmacphee8666 Год назад

    Happy he didn’t win in PIT or DET

  • @city4125
    @city4125 Год назад

    Man he's a liar he dragged his feet on purpose so we lost out on free agents. And nothing was better than beating them that year

  • @fsvc8469
    @fsvc8469 Год назад

    Chiclets... plez dont do the big "O" face in thumbnails. Its cringy as f.

  • @ryanbesco8067
    @ryanbesco8067 Год назад

    Ask him about getting murdered by Raffi Torres

  • @MrDeceptacon88
    @MrDeceptacon88 Год назад +1

    Hossa was a floater and another soft euro player

  • @Nunya412
    @Nunya412 Год назад

    Legend

  • @Anticipat0r
    @Anticipat0r Год назад +3

    hossa the samosa

  • @smitdizz420
    @smitdizz420 Год назад +4

    Love it when pens stuck it to him in 2009. F off Hossa we will never forget

    • @chrisg7731
      @chrisg7731 Год назад +1

      Had the Wings won, I’d have agreed with you. Beating him in 09 and then him going on to beat the Flyers the next year, all is forgiven.
      I appreciate the fact that he said in this interview that it was a mistake. Or crazy. Or whatever his exact wording was, to sign with Detroit and leave behind the chance to play with Sid. Their chemistry in their short time together was bonkers. I honestly believed he could’ve scored 60 on Sid’s wing for an entire year. But who knows now? Sid got two more cups with mediocre wingers who work hard. Hossa got some more. I’d have liked to have seen Sid play with him just to know their true potential, but that’s life.