Great info I have done numberous fire alarm to access door release. Always use one addressable relay (normally open) and tie down to the REX( the contact your using) input of access control panel. Short on alarm and jump around to all doors in parallel. Opens all doors on alarm. Nice work!!!!
Hello M_Lopez have you had any experience simulating a loss of power to the FA panel? This is part of a fire Marshall request and I’m trying to figure out how one can do this via programming only and not removing power cabling.
@@matthewpadula1731 If you have the access control power to locks from on power supply you can add a relay from the fire panel to be closed in that power circuit - locks working and if there is a power failure it will release the locks when releasing the relay. I am also just learning this so I might be wrong. I have some PLC experience there they teach if its life/limb safty the connection should always be active and only in the emergency event should it be broken. reasoning is if the wires get broken you will know you system has failed if it is a open system you will not know that until you energize and need it.
@@nics-systems-electric oh really? Wow I’m actullh surprised because at my schools they do that on every campus I’ve been at so I assumed they did that a lot. That’s why I said it made it more realistic. Non the less I like the idea of it for some reason!
@@firealarmdiscovery at my high school it can be manually activated so the Smoke exhaust fans come on and the exterior doors will open up access control will unlock and then the handicap access open the door
Hello, thank you for your informative video. I have a question that a fire inspector asked me. How could you via programming simulate a loss of power the fire alarm panel. Upon loss of power to the fire alarm panel, the mag locks are supposed to de-energize. My problem is that the FA panel is commissioned so I don’t want to remove wiring and disconnect cabling to the FA Panel. In this scenario could I somehow add a N.C relay, where once power to the fire alarm panel is lost, the N.C relay would close and cause a control relay to turn on which can in turn be used to program the de-energization of mag locks?
I just bought a basic magnetic door closer with a exit button and a terminal, and a key remote fob. Is there away I can still connect it do do this? Or do I have to have a acces control panel?
Hey pickle just a quick question about the lights on your bike how many battery do you use to power your lights and how do you connect them because I just got some to day with the 12v battery
What did you do to link the FACP to the Voice Driver? I see you have it wired up to the DSC panel, just not quite sure how the fire alarm panel caused the other panel to kick in, if I'm not wrong how do I link a burglar/fire panel combo and a FACP together?
how do i do this with multiple access panel? i tried jumping from one panel to the next but when i press to exit one door multiple doors unlock at time same time
www.amazon.ca/Complete-Network-Control-Electric-Remotely/dp/B01NAI79L8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=access+control+panel&qid=1624157761&sr=8-2 this is the one that I have. You will have to get one for two or four doors depending on the amount that you need to control
@@nics-systems-electric Ik but when I originally had that key when I bought that key switch I couldn’t figure out how it works pickle I’m serious after not knowing how it works ive misplaced the key
Be careful with these standard Chinese access control systems that use 125khz RFID for access. These cards or tags can be easily created or duplicated with simple tools that can be purchased online.
I am aware I have tools for that I am using 13.56 MHz but they still are not encrypted but that is only an issue if somebody can actually get their hands on the fob
Great info I have done numberous fire alarm to access door release. Always use one addressable relay (normally open) and tie down to the REX( the contact your using) input of access control panel. Short on alarm and jump around to all doors in parallel. Opens all doors on alarm. Nice work!!!!
Hello M_Lopez have you had any experience simulating a loss of power to the FA panel? This is part of a fire Marshall request and I’m trying to figure out how one can do this via programming only and not removing power cabling.
@@matthewpadula1731 If you have the access control power to locks from on power supply you can add a relay from the fire panel to be closed in that power circuit - locks working and if there is a power failure it will release the locks when releasing the relay. I am also just learning this so I might be wrong. I have some PLC experience there they teach if its life/limb safty the connection should always be active and only in the emergency event should it be broken. reasoning is if the wires get broken you will know you system has failed if it is a open system you will not know that until you energize and need it.
You said you where not going to lolz!!! But I’m glad you did makes the system more realistic and safe!
I think this actually made it more unrealistic
@@nics-systems-electric Why?
@@firealarmdiscovery because I’ve never seen it in the field
@@nics-systems-electric oh really? Wow I’m actullh surprised because at my schools they do that on every campus I’ve been at so I assumed they did that a lot. That’s why I said it made it more realistic. Non the less I like the idea of it for some reason!
@@firealarmdiscovery at my high school it can be manually activated so the Smoke exhaust fans come on and the exterior doors will open up access control will unlock and then the handicap access open the door
I actually have a system and this is actually very helpful thank you!
What is you talking about?!
Awesome vid, I learned a lot, well done.
Thank you very much, from Egypt
wish you to make some diagram how to connect this doors to panel...with the use of relay or interlock from conventional
Great video with a lot of good content.
Thank you for the video that's help
The response time on that panel is crazy!
Yes it’s fast because I don’t have very many points installed on the system
Cool video! ...
Thanks
Hello, thank you for your informative video. I have a question that a fire inspector asked me. How could you via programming simulate a loss of power the fire alarm panel. Upon loss of power to the fire alarm panel, the mag locks are supposed to de-energize. My problem is that the FA panel is commissioned so I don’t want to remove wiring and disconnect cabling to the FA Panel. In this scenario could I somehow add a N.C relay, where once power to the fire alarm panel is lost, the N.C relay would close and cause a control relay to turn on which can in turn be used to program the de-energization of mag locks?
I just bought a basic magnetic door closer with a exit button and a terminal, and a key remote fob. Is there away I can still connect it do do this? Or do I have to have a acces control panel?
Here it is
Pickle Nice did you see my mini fire alarm system?
Hey pickle just a quick question about the lights on your bike how many battery do you use to power your lights and how do you connect them because I just got some to day with the 12v battery
For the lights I’m using a 12 V rechargeable battery two amp hour
I have a video on installing them so I’d watch that
Nice. Are you going to make it so the fire panel sets off the security system when it’s in alarm
No not anytime soon
What did you do to link the FACP to the Voice Driver? I see you have it wired up to the DSC panel, just not quite sure how the fire alarm panel caused the other panel to kick in, if I'm not wrong how do I link a burglar/fire panel combo and a FACP together?
I explain in the videos on it
@@nics-systems-electric In this video?
@@oreonproject no it's my voice driver video
Ok thanks!@@nics-systems-electric
Are you able to hook this voice driver to a real FACP without it blowing up or overloading?@@nics-systems-electric
nice, i need to do this with mine
how do i do this with multiple access panel? i tried jumping from one panel to the next but when i press to exit one door multiple doors unlock at time same time
Hey did you wire your security system to your fire alarm panel?
No
Are you going to wire it together in the future?
Cool
What kind of access panel is that? Also what if you had multiple doors ?
www.amazon.ca/Complete-Network-Control-Electric-Remotely/dp/B01NAI79L8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=access+control+panel&qid=1624157761&sr=8-2 this is the one that I have. You will have to get one for two or four doors depending on the amount that you need to control
What panel do you have for acces control?
www.amazon.ca/Complete-Network-Control-Electric-Remotely/dp/B01NAI79L8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=access+control+panel&qid=1624157761&sr=8-2
Hey Pickle is there a way to wire an access control system to a Burglar Alarm System?
In what way how do you want to be connected
so you'd want a door to unlock when someone breaks in?
Pickle I do have that key switch that you showed that looks like a light switch but I couldn’t figure out how to use it
You need a key.
@@nics-systems-electric Ik but when I originally had that key when I bought that key switch I couldn’t figure out how it works pickle I’m serious after not knowing how it works ive misplaced the key
@@nics-systems-electric can you help me I did use a key but couldn’t even get the key to work are you going to do a video of how to operate it?
@@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 you just put the key in and push it up or down
@@nics-systems-electric I did it didn’t go in at all
1st
2nd
Be careful with these standard Chinese access control systems that use 125khz RFID for access. These cards or tags can be easily created or duplicated with simple tools that can be purchased online.
I am aware I have tools for that I am using 13.56 MHz but they still are not encrypted but that is only an issue if somebody can actually get their hands on the fob
@@nics-systems-electric Alright good to hear. Too many places where I live rely on LF tags for sensitive/high security areas. Not good.
@@P25AES The 13.56 MHz curds can be duplicated the same way the readers/duplicators are just a little more expensive