Ironically, the book is available as an ebook and audiobook 🤷🏿♀️ I'd like to believe intelligent discourse isn't dead. There's a dearth of critical thinking, critical reading and a lack of patience (or perhaps perceived time) to deal with though.
I just want to give you a big thanks for showing that Harvard university is giving free online courses. If I could like this video twice I would bc you deserve a like just for that. And another for the great content you post. Thank you Maye!
Maye, the book is on Audible! It looks like it’s a free download for Audible members. It’s a little less than 5 hours. Listening at a higher speed, it won’t take that long at all. You’ve given us lots to think about.
I remember being scolded as a kid. So many lectures about the dangers of the boob tube. "It takes away your brain cells . "Why would you want the 📺 to tell you what a story looks like." I was taught to entertain myself with my own imagination what . We were also very poor and did not have a 📺, or cable for a very long time. So it was an easy argument for my parents to win. My mom would take us to the library all the time. I would pick a library over the 📺 any day. You present such a great argument. With the pros and construction of 📖 Vs 📺. The television has unlike books afforded me freedom to exist as myself. Well played! You can give me homework anytime!
...you have some really good videos. Thanks. 👍 2:47...the printing was criticized in it's day as much as social media and tv is today. ...in my opinion this kind of stuff has been going on forever!
I was a history major too!! I love your channel!! Your video on natureboy brought me here but I’m staying because of the content ! Plus you are funny af!! And my future wife!
Love this video. How about Marshall McLuhan? Also, check out Haskell Wexler's film Medium Cool (the title part of McLuhan's theories) or the novel White Noise. Maye Muses is a wonderful resource for the internet generation (for anyone, actually). Keep the videos coming.
Keep it like this. Post edit hiccups just make this this channel feel even more authentic. Something about mistakes is it for me. In fact I want to open up a museum full of nature’s way. Probably call it The Kafka show
Wonderful video and a very insightful view on the birth of social media! I can only imagine that propaganda allowed for such a successful union. I would also add that American culture as it is Orwellian to say the least. I'll end this with a quote from Fanon, “They realize at last that change does not mean reform, that change does not mean improvement.” Oh... thank you for the book reference I'll be adding that one!
This was quite entertaining, thanks for that. :-) I liked how you used some early American History in this video, and if you are interested in more that sort of thing I would recommend you read the book, "How the Scots invented the modern world" by Arthur L. Herman and the PBS series called "Connections" by James Burke. Keep up the good work.
Nice collection of videos, thank you for your thoughts. 🖖 (USA context) TV from the past seems to have articulated ideas of communities across American continent, stereotypes were built and reinforced, for good or ill. Sub-cultures such as the Italian-American community have been explored by TV, differences and similarities of our humanity are shown through shows such as the Sopranos. It seems to me that old TV were the myths of our modern times, something that charges our imagination and reveals things about us. Social media seems to be revealing the cracks that have always been there. Kant has commented about how the human mind builds the laws of nature. We build the myths, we have to build beautiful and magnificent new ones.
Hello Maye , I'm saying one thing about the early days of tv. Live tv. with great plays ( Playhouse 90) and honest and clean comedy. We fell down in the last 50 years, and early radio was also really good and imaginative . This also fell down. Extremely important to read the Bible and go to a Bible study. Read the Olivet Discourse. Matthew 24.
That's so interesting. I've read about live TV before, and the writer loved it, but it's before my time. Now, I don't even think there are live audiences except in late night. It's a different art completely
start a book club! you mention so many books on all your videos it hard to keep up. id love if you would start a book club or release a book list from all your videos.
I like this video TV has made society much more confusing because while you watch it one thing you’re missing the other and you don’t get to entertain both sides of an idea at the same time like you could with a complex in-depth analysis such as this one had many written papers that I’ve read
This is what we are seeing the result of on many levels. From international politics to even our close relationships, reality tv as the frame work for how we think of our values and self-worth is limiting. Your analysis touches on the writing of Marshall McLuhan speculation on our lack of language to look beyond the all consuming nature of television and how it has changed our view of reality. You do see the benefit of being able to see beyond our own circumstances by having access to tv and the internet. Which is why we have way more world views and life styles being embraced. Basically these are all tools and how we use them I think, there is saccharine fluff then there is substance. People are defining themselves more individually and not accepting the "norm". You can stay on the "farm" or find a new way by seeing there are other options. Any how, very worthwhile entertainment.
That was my favorite video of yours, so far. I really enjoyed the way you brought things around to look at the positive side of the coin. Nothing is all or none; it’s not all gloom & doom, despite many appearances to the contrary. I was going to argue that the very real danger in being overly entertained is that, in our perpetual distraction, we can end up blind to many more important things. Maybe more crucially, when people depend on entertainment for being informed about current events, they’re very easily deceived into blindly trusting sources that are just catering to their desire for entertainment. We love to complain about media fear mongering and biased reporting but, per capitalism, they’re simply giving us exactly what we’re asking for. People are deceived precisely because they WANT to be deceived. The market for self deception is massive. And as you helped me remember...maybe that’s not the worst thing. Ignorance is bliss. At least for awhile. Also true: a little bit of information (or false information) in the hands of the unwise can be a dangerous thing. I just wish the ignorant and misinformed knew that they were, so they’d stop acting out on that false information. Go on, entertain yourselves to death and enjoy the bliss of oblivion...but please, quietly and out of the way. In reality, the least informed tend to be the most opinionated and loudest.
Ok, I criticized your new video but this was a good one. Postman's great, check out his 'Building A Bridge To The 18th Century,' and for an even broader, in many ways more insightful view of the ways technology affects our perceptions, take the Marshal McLuhan dive, the guy Postman got most of his ideas from. McLuhan's fun, you should do a video on him!
You are interesting to listen to and if that is considered entertainment, so be it! Why shouldn’t we be challenged to think outside our boxes by our entertainment! I appreciate thoughtful content that offers me another way to think about something! It’s the effect I hope I have on others too! BTW I watch RUclips on my television! RUclips is television to me.
You know, Beautiful, that I actually have a possible fact about TV ruining the human being. I'm not referring to the content viewed in the program, but of the recalibrating on how we communion with one another after becoming Programed by the TV. Example : Our communication is most successful when in a mental state of focus. Unfortunately, that focus is not there and has been replaced with the exact same attention span of the different flashed images within a single commercial. Our brains have been transmitting that constant switch to our minds, to a point we don't realize we actually mimic the pattern of such commercial during our social communication between each other. If You are talking to me upon a particular subject, the programming of the TV has made me (the listener) not able to stay on focus to the subject, because mentally I'm changing different images of thought as a Consequential behavior I am now aware of.
Maye, i think we were already on a crash course toward disaster, but that doesn't mean everyone is going down with the ship. Have you read "1984" by George Orwell or "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley? These are very good interpretations of what could come to pass.
Spot on & timely vid as always. The fairness Doctrine not being codify as law just accelerated everything is entertainment. It’s always wild to see in the late 60s early 80s. Just how many long form table discussion on complex political/social issues I think there are leaders but most of them are doing the work within communities. More folks need to actually go to people who study & actually know what they are talking about. Influencer who want to get involved should explore more & find activist/organizers who are out doing the works When seeking out info it’s good to NO one is knowledgeable about ALL things. A person who is specialists in subject talking about the complexities of another. Proceed with caution ie: this person a brain surgeon they surely know about the nuance complexities of poverty/social issues.
That's true. We're finding that the qualities that make one a good influencer don't make them a good leader/organizer and vice versa. It's rare to find one person with both. Maybe knowledgable people should start taking media classes, because they will, and IDK if influencers are going to start studying. Something's gotta happen.
Even this comment I'm about to write has to be entertaining so ppl are goin to read it and give me a thumbs up. Stop right there, its not gonna be entertaining. Maye, I watched your video about ppl leaving LA and I stumbled upon this. Very interesting book and thoughts. Many points I would like to talk about (its Lockdown and I'm bored af). But I'll just pick one. 20:01 Why should we be miserable? Obviously I didn't read the book, but I suppose it's not about being miserable. Maybe its about being aware. Aware how dangerous it can be to feel safe and satisfied. You probably heard or read this quote “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” I'm from Vienna, Austria but my roots are in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Small poor villages and simple ppl. One thing that I noticed are the old ppl down there. Women or man, 80 and 90+ are still working around their houses and are able to take care of themselves. Most ppl their age here in Vienna need daily care. Either at home or in a retirement home. What is the common difference? I know I'm am generalizing now. A harder life. If this is true, is it worth striving for a harder life? At least we, who are fortunate enough to even be in a position to think about it? I really don't know. It's not like me fellow herzegovinian ppl are only miserable, they are fun, love to laugh, sing and enjoy life. But they see the world so differently. For us new generations, it seems not understandable. But I'm trying. Maybe we should all.
I have heard that quote and I agree. I personally feel we could get through easy times with self-discipline, but unless people are in sports, have a talent or have strict/negligent parents, it's hard to develop that level of self-discipline. I think it is unfortunately a cycle, and we're in for a rude awakening if we don't tighten up.
i don't think tv, social media and internet ruined society. i don't think society is ruined. i think tv, internet and social media have helped spread and normalize different thoughts, ideas and perspectives. growing up, before social media and the internet, i was extremely lost and curious about my surroundings. i wanted to know more about, lets say, a light year. i was limited by my local library and the librarians who ran it. i remember asking my teacher how fast a light year was. none of my teachers could answer that for me. i remember sleeping in the library over my stacks of books searching for my answer after watching an episode of star trek: the next generation. none of those books answered my question. today, i can pull up google in my pocket and get my answer in a split second. with the internet, social media and sometimes the tv, i can pull an almost endless amount of ideas and information that spiral my curiosity into the unknown. it's amazing. we only had these things for almost a century, so these medias are still in their infancies, compared to the universe. i think people are still learning how to adapt to this light speed of thought and ideas. we are taking baby steps and there will be times that we fall or get lost along the way. we have descended from experts who have been winging it for thousands of years. "to infinity..."
Has TV ruined society? Really good question and a thought that old people have had sense the before time. I don't feel like it had single handedly ruined society but I do think that it has exacerbated the issues of an already influential people. Humans have always craved entertainment (ex. Gladiators). TV is a gift and a curse in my mind. Does it pull us away from books? Probably. Does that makes us less intellectual? Well I certainly have a harder time remembering the beginning of lectures or even conversations without writing notes so maybe. I respect what ...see, I don't remember what the author's name is...what the guy says about entertainment influencing politics, teaching, and religion or at least how it's presented. Too much evidence to say otherwise. Glad to watch this piece of entertainment given the recent foolishness. Thanks!
YT is the best platform IMO for the same reason. People think it's pranks and unboxings, but there's so much great content on here. Now, the algorithm doesn't even show me the silly stuff anymore
I'm interested in what you think about the new WW84 movie taking place a year before this book dropped. And how it uses Television to grant peoples wishes. Do you feel that is why it was set in that time period? Great video as always!
the issue of your philosofy of enjoy and have fun etc is that it's done at the expense of future generations well being. Hard times are just the hangover of the "too good" times,
I'm editing a video to address this very issue. Our definition of "fun" is skewed in the USA. We think fun is consumption. I grew up in a Puritanical state with a stoic academic family, who are still fun to me, but that's too extreme for most people. Other people work 12 hr days and just want to chill afterward. There has to be a happy medium. My personal "fun" to discipline ratio is 1:3, 1/4 "fun," 3/4 discipline.
Hey Maya. Great work but quick suggestion, could you work on an intro or a lighter/dumber way to introduce us to the subject matter and then slowly take us deeper? I got confused 4 minutes into this video and had to restart it. Or maybe I just got low IQ 🤷♂️😅
I’m a 80s baby n I never heard of this book. U did a good review, it kind of sounds like that book 1985, there no doubt we were all born into everything wrong (and right) with the world, I’m not sure how ur channel came up (prob RUclips algorithm), but this platform is a hybrid of TV since it not as censored as TV (but beginning to be) and has advertisements (early on RUclips didn’t have advertisements), either way what is most important (esp times like these) is that you’re solid in who you are and whose you are (keep YHWH (God) first thru Yahshua (Jesus)), we’ve all been so influenced (aka brainwashed) about religion and who we are that getting this takes a lot of time (literally one would have to unlearn everything they’ve been taught from schools, churches, tv etc., and learn the Bible (Hebrew the best since that the original writing, but it not required there a lot of meat in the English version) comparing it to their life experiences to make sense of themselves and their surroundings, I hope u take the time to read it, it a lot longer than the book u reviewed but it worth it! Take care.
I honestly wish that TV would go back to cutting off at a night with the American flag waving idk what decade this happened maybe the 60’s but I don’t see the need for Advertising on TV at 1am 🤷🏾♀️
It's even reflected in the architecture. The older architecture is more beautiful, and it shows that we had a society of craftsmen and skilled workers. I look at many old wooden winding stairs, and I know that we can't build stairs like that today... Fiat money system; everyone is chasing government-issued money. We were born into a 'Matrix' system, and the controllers of that system aren't admitting to sh|t (despite us basically having figured out the deception), and they're concurrently closing off all the exits. And then they call us various pejoratives when we even meekly criticise them.
You know what, that makes sense. Architecture started getting ugly when TV came out. I'm not an architect, so I don't know how they're correlated but it def times out.
The problem is that taking postman’s warning seriously would involve the painful transitions necessary to decouple entertainment from education. That’s RUclips video essayist’s only claim to respectability, the idea that they’re an insightful island in a sea of noise. They are not part of, but the literal essence of the stultifying dynamic And I think you can tell once you stop pretending that these glorified high school projects are deep. They are, at the absolute best, basic introductions to topics better pursued through reading. Which nobody really does. I should add that goes not just for maya, but every one using this medium. Minimize RUclips. Read.
I disagree with one thing Martin & Malcolm would have a million followers ......... On social media cause they quotes make good post. SN: Internet and Social media is great in the way how fast the information hit our hands. Also you find like minded people like yourself on Social media cause growing up in the a small town rural area is the worst and hunting is the best thing to do
i respectfully disagree. i think this generation would not have been as receptive to them. my belief is that Malcom and Martin would have been boxed in and pigeon holed into the "conscious community" or considered some form of hotep. all those post worthy quotes only appeal to certain people. not the vast majority. and the environment that inspired said quotes is so different that they may not be as relatable to this generation.
That's true. It's making knowledge accessible to everyone, not just people born near a university. It only takes a handful of gifted minds to break out of that rural trap to make a huge difference
That's sad, but I agree. I suspect they'd have a small but loyal following, and everyone else would just think of Malcolm like Farrakhan. MLK could get a correspondent job, but not if he's talking about poverty :(
First and foremost. blessings and well wishes to you Maye..and my love as always. thoughts before reading? postman has points. i tend to lean more toward your point at 23:25 in terms of looking at this from the modern day. the world has been fucked. social media for all its "detriment" has opened up a wealth of knowledge. it takes the will to go and search for information. i also think you were right in saying we did this to ourselves. ive struggled with wondering if its our nature to relinquish power to authority, but it sure seems like we put the power of living in the hand sof the producers. do i think tv or social media ruins society? not without the intention of man to take it there. last on the subject. entertainment isnt a fault excess is. sprinkling entertainment into teaching can be super helpful and life without enjoyment is arguably not a life to live. so on that point i cant get down with postman. but i do think its healthy to take time away from it so it doesnt become all encompassing.
@@MayeMuses terrifying indeed. one of my working theories is that its a subset of group mind or group think that was manipulated and exploited once certain forms of authority became prominant. and now the habitual part of it all has taken over and its become a reflex of sorts. either way spooky business. also good seeing you again. love the videos and the food for thought. bless
I think another downside of televangelists is the same as teaching as entertainment people allow the televangelist to do all the work they take their word without actually reading, praying for themselves, ect.
Tv certainly didn't ruin society, but it didn't make it better either. Social media is vastly different than the television age, print, or radio for the following reasons: 1. No regulation. I'm no fan of censorship, however, the gatekeepers did serve as quality control. If you wanted to become a writer you needed credentials, if you wanted to comment on a subject, you had to be well versed in what you were talking about. Today all you need is a computer and someone with idol time. The amount of misinformation online is mindboggling. To complicate things; your average young person cannot tell if what they are reading is factual or bullshit. 2. Mind masturbation. People fill a void in their lives going online and "winning" arguments with people instead of doing the shit that sucks to make things better. They all have dreams and ambitions that they are not pursuing because they are spending 2-5 hours per day arguing online. 3. The echo chamber. You can tell if an idea is good or not by how well it holds up under scrutiny. If there's no counter-argument telling you that eating Tide Pods may not be a good thing to do you're going to end up a bunch of people who eat tide pods. This failed insurrection we just witnessed is what happens when the echo chamber gets out of hand. It's literally dangerous. 4. It's addictive. As bad as television was, it was never addictive. Most of the shows were garbage and we had more fun going outside or hanging with friends. Plus the television stayed at home. Social media is always with you. 5. It's invasive. CBS, ABC, and NBC never had access to my phone contacts. They didn't know who my friends are. Where I like to spend my time. And who I'm most likely to vote for. Apple, Google, Amazon, and Facebook have your fingerprint, voice, and face stored somewhere on a computer. Most people wouldn't share this information with anyone but you willingly handed it over to a tech company so they could sell it to someone who needs to manipulate you. I told everyone in 2008 that Facebook was mind-controlling its users. Human beings did not evolve to interact with each other via computer apps. Mark my words: social media, AI, and advanced robotics will destabilize and erode society as we know it. The dystopia is here. Btw: I enjoyed the video.
That's true, because the past ten years have been like the 20th century except on steroids. I think the echo chamber started with the Limbaugh crew in the 90's, and the internet has run with it. Also, I had to delete my FB because I couldn't handle it, and it wasn't contributing enough to my life for the time it was sucking.
Maye television is just like anything else, there is a good side and there's a bad side. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. You could say the same thing about television that you can about books it's all about what you put into it. When I was little I may have watched Transformers and GI Joe along with Jake and The Fat Man but, I also had to pick up a book every once in awhile. that along with watching Nova with my father made me a more well rounded person .My aunt was a teacher and she imparted into me the importance of a good education along with being entertained. Yes! there is garbage on television but, it is only there because you have so many garbage people running it. Just like with journalism and the Internet that will always be people who of Atlanta exist ? It is because there are those in power who do not want you to think at all. It is up to the viewer and consumer what they find to be intellectually stimulating. We became a society of being entertained way before 1985 . That is only because society is moving so fast now you have to do something to capture someone's attention! I wish it worked that way but, sometimes you have to deal with what you got . You can find just as much trash in a book as you can on television. Now with the Internet you have to seek out be intelligent material and conversation. That is one of the reasons why I was drawn to your RUclips channel!
Thank you! And I agree. Some books are 100% for entertainment. I would also like to test your point about the garbage people running TV soon. I have seen some execs rejecting quality content because it doesn't sell, and I've seen some just not care about accuracy. I hope those execs will be pushed out and replaced by people with higher standards but only if the public demands it.
The million dollar question is, what is the benefit of intelligence, in a society that rewards lack of intelligence, and seems to cater to the functionality of those who don't value intelligence. There's a reason the Highest paid state employees are college Football Coaches at Public Universities. And I disagree with your take on social media being a continuation Social Media is far more interactive Suggestive and intrusive to the Psyche ... Plus social media far more integrated into everyday function than any invention in human history... T.V was hypnosis Social Media is MK Ultra They out earn tenured professors by close to %3000
id have to disagree on the entertaining education stint to a degree, Ive found my love of science stemmed from entertaining videos cause the way it was being taught didnt retain. I think that making it the only means may be wrong, but if you make the educational content and make it entertaining but dont invite free thought then youre playing a dangerous game. Like youtube shows like because science and Vsauce Ive wanted to know more and more about the sciences. I dont think entertaining education is the problem, i think watering down for the sake of ratings and calling it education is the real villain in this saga.
@@MayeMuses im tryina tell ya thats that educational fire, my YT algorithm is nothing but: videogames, politics, and whatever science that comes down the pipe line. Usually physics/astro physics and computer science. Now allow me to get you hooked again....do yu watch vsauce?
In short I highly disagree but I can understand someone that’s 50-60+ can feel how dude felt in the book if they’re not willing to enjoy technology and learn with the times which seem ironic because it’ll go against the whole learning argument..........
Maya is so insightful and intelligent it's actually quite intimidating, she's a one person dinner party.
And a total cuttie!!!
Thank you :)
@@MayeMuses 😍
Ironically, the book is available as an ebook and audiobook 🤷🏿♀️ I'd like to believe intelligent discourse isn't dead. There's a dearth of critical thinking, critical reading and a lack of patience (or perhaps perceived time) to deal with though.
Yes, discourse is still here, just not trending!
I need this book because I often ask myself why I have the need to be constantly entertained. Love this video!!
This video should be a mandatory watch! Very good!
I read this book about 15 years ago and you are the first person l have heard mention it in all these years.
I love this channel for real. I can't get enough of it.
I think you’re an eloquent and intelligent speaker who can communicate effectively, and deliver important messages all across the board!!
He is absolutely CORRECT, thank you for sharing
The televisions was literally a baby sitter at time. "Don't open the door, don't go outside. You know where the food is. I'll be back by XYZ."
Same! Now, I talk like the people on the TV
I just want to give you a big thanks for showing that Harvard university is giving free online courses. If I could like this video twice I would bc you deserve a like just for that. And another for the great content you post. Thank you Maye!
You're very welcome! MIT too
1. I'm thankful for this thought provoking channel.
2. I chuckled when we both went "hm" after France's enlightenment.
Thank you once again for an Enlightening take on this Subject. Always looking forward to your video topics.
Maye, the book is on Audible! It looks like it’s a free download for Audible members. It’s a little less than 5 hours. Listening at a higher speed, it won’t take that long at all.
You’ve given us lots to think about.
Yes! Spread the word :)
I haven’t picked up a book in months. I used to do nothing but read all summer in my youth (introvert alert) you have inspired me to get back to it
I remember being scolded as a kid. So many lectures about the dangers of the boob tube. "It takes away your brain cells . "Why would you want the 📺 to tell you what a story looks like." I was taught to entertain myself with my own imagination what . We were also very poor and did not have a 📺, or cable for a very long time. So it was an easy argument for my parents to win. My mom would take us to the library all the time. I would pick a library over the 📺 any day.
You present such a great argument. With the pros and construction of 📖 Vs 📺. The television has unlike books afforded me freedom to exist as myself.
Well played! You can give me homework anytime!
TV has given practical knowledge on how to live better. How can we hate?
...you have some really good videos. Thanks. 👍
2:47...the printing was criticized in it's day as much as social media and tv is today. ...in my opinion this kind of stuff has been going on forever!
this was a really well done video. very insightful.
I was a history major too!! I love your channel!! Your video on natureboy brought me here but I’m staying because of the content ! Plus you are funny af!! And my future wife!
I’m guilty of that Maye I need to read more! With audio books now I enjoy those more than actually physically reading.
Still counts! Counts more because you can do chores too
Maye your views and education are just amazing! You should be president
HAHA! No one wants that job, but thank you.
Perfectly paced deliverance of information .
Damn what you said at 23:25 was deep. I agree with you on that 100%.
Great episode
That Book and the movie Idiocracy speaks volumes
Love this video. How about Marshall McLuhan? Also, check out Haskell Wexler's film Medium Cool (the title part of McLuhan's theories) or the novel White Noise. Maye Muses is a wonderful resource for the internet generation (for anyone, actually). Keep the videos coming.
Keep it like this. Post edit hiccups just make this this channel feel even more authentic. Something about mistakes is it for me. In fact I want to open up a museum full of nature’s way. Probably call it The Kafka show
“I could have joe rogan money.....if I applied myself....” - lmao me and the reason why I hit subscribe
I am as old as this book! And you're so right!!
Wonderful video and a very insightful view on the birth of social media! I can only imagine that propaganda allowed for such a successful union. I would also add that American culture as it is Orwellian to say the least. I'll end this with a quote from Fanon, “They realize at last that change does not mean reform, that change does not mean improvement.”
Oh... thank you for the book reference I'll be adding that one!
Glad to hear this.
I love your silver linings to all of this
Thank you! There's always a silver lining
This was quite entertaining, thanks for that. :-) I liked how you used some early American History in this video, and if you are interested in more that sort of thing I would recommend you read the book, "How the Scots invented the modern world" by Arthur L. Herman and the PBS series called "Connections" by James Burke. Keep up the good work.
Nice collection of videos, thank you for your thoughts. 🖖 (USA context) TV from the past seems to have articulated ideas of communities across American continent, stereotypes were built and reinforced, for good or ill. Sub-cultures such as the Italian-American community have been explored by TV, differences and similarities of our humanity are shown through shows such as the Sopranos. It seems to me that old TV were the myths of our modern times, something that charges our imagination and reveals things about us. Social media seems to be revealing the cracks that have always been there. Kant has commented about how the human mind builds the laws of nature. We build the myths, we have to build beautiful and magnificent new ones.
DAMN RIGHT!!
Very in depth content, you keep teaching the Cullen now.
Hello Maye , I'm saying one thing about the early days of tv. Live tv. with great plays ( Playhouse 90) and honest and clean comedy. We fell down in the last 50 years, and early radio was also really good and imaginative . This also fell down. Extremely important to read the Bible and go to a Bible study. Read the Olivet Discourse. Matthew 24.
That's so interesting. I've read about live TV before, and the writer loved it, but it's before my time. Now, I don't even think there are live audiences except in late night. It's a different art completely
start a book club! you mention so many books on all your videos it hard to keep up. id love if you would start a book club or release a book list from all your videos.
I will put out a list soon! Thanks for the idea :)
Had to thumbs up for Neil Postman’s book alone. Read that in undergrad comm class
I like this video TV has made society much more confusing because while you watch it one thing you’re missing the other and you don’t get to entertain both sides of an idea at the same time like you could with a complex in-depth analysis such as this one had many written papers that I’ve read
I do not have a TV since 2009! 😊
This is what we are seeing the result of on many levels. From international politics to even our close relationships, reality tv as the frame work for how we think of our values and self-worth is limiting. Your analysis touches on the writing of Marshall McLuhan speculation on our lack of language to look beyond the all consuming nature of television and how it has changed our view of reality.
You do see the benefit of being able to see beyond our own circumstances by having access to tv and the internet. Which is why we have way more world views and life styles being embraced. Basically these are all tools and how we use them I think, there is saccharine fluff then there is substance. People are defining themselves more individually and not accepting the "norm". You can stay on the "farm" or find a new way by seeing there are other options.
Any how, very worthwhile entertainment.
I just bought some McLuhan! Lot of my favorite books have been referencing him.
@@MayeMuses Cool, enjoy. If you have any other book suggestions to share please share them.
That was my favorite video of yours, so far. I really enjoyed the way you brought things around to look at the positive side of the coin. Nothing is all or none; it’s not all gloom & doom, despite many appearances to the contrary. I was going to argue that the very real danger in being overly entertained is that, in our perpetual distraction, we can end up blind to many more important things. Maybe more crucially, when people depend on entertainment for being informed about current events, they’re very easily deceived into blindly trusting sources that are just catering to their desire for entertainment. We love to complain about media fear mongering and biased reporting but, per capitalism, they’re simply giving us exactly what we’re asking for. People are deceived precisely because they WANT to be deceived. The market for self deception is massive. And as you helped me remember...maybe that’s not the worst thing. Ignorance is bliss. At least for awhile.
Also true: a little bit of information (or false information) in the hands of the unwise can be a dangerous thing.
I just wish the ignorant and misinformed knew that they were, so they’d stop acting out on that false information. Go on, entertain yourselves to death and enjoy the bliss of oblivion...but please, quietly and out of the way. In reality, the least informed tend to be the most opinionated and loudest.
Thank you! I do think we need more self-discipline to handle the responsibility of social media and TV, but that's doable
5 copies?! Sheesh! You're a good sister and friend!
I'm 24, part of the 10% gang
I don't have a television becauseI have 3 kids....but they watch tv by their grandparents.
Awesome video!!
awesome
I Love your Content
yes YT counts as entertainment. it's up to the person to charge.
Ok, I criticized your new video but this was a good one. Postman's great, check out his 'Building A Bridge To The 18th Century,' and for an even broader, in many ways more insightful view of the ways technology affects our perceptions, take the Marshal McLuhan dive, the guy Postman got most of his ideas from. McLuhan's fun, you should do a video on him!
You are interesting to listen to and if that is considered entertainment, so be it! Why shouldn’t we be challenged to think outside our boxes by our entertainment! I appreciate thoughtful content that offers me another way to think about something! It’s the effect I hope I have on others too! BTW I watch RUclips on my television! RUclips is television to me.
well done maye
You know, Beautiful, that I actually have a possible fact about TV ruining the human being. I'm not referring to the content viewed in the program, but of the recalibrating on how we communion with one another after becoming Programed by the TV. Example : Our communication is most successful when in a mental state of focus. Unfortunately, that focus is not there and has been replaced with the exact same attention span of the different flashed images within a single commercial. Our brains have been transmitting that constant switch to our minds, to a point we don't realize we actually mimic the pattern of such commercial during our social communication between each other. If You are talking to me upon a particular subject, the programming of the TV has made me (the listener) not able to stay on focus to the subject, because mentally I'm changing different images of thought as a Consequential behavior I am now aware of.
Serial Experiments Lain predicted this too
Maye, i think we were already on a crash course toward disaster, but that doesn't mean everyone is going down with the ship. Have you read "1984" by George Orwell or "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley? These are very good interpretations of what could come to pass.
Yes, I think both of those books got some of it right. Hopefully, it's a small disaster so we can learn from it, but something's got to happen.
Spot on & timely vid as always.
The fairness Doctrine not being codify as law just accelerated everything is entertainment.
It’s always wild to see in the late 60s early 80s. Just how many long form table discussion on complex political/social issues
I think there are leaders but most of them are doing the work within communities. More folks need to actually go to people who study & actually know what they are talking about.
Influencer who want to get involved should explore more & find activist/organizers who are out doing the works
When seeking out info it’s good to NO one is knowledgeable about ALL things.
A person who is specialists in subject
talking about the complexities of another.
Proceed with caution
ie: this person a brain surgeon they surely know about the nuance complexities of poverty/social issues.
That's true. We're finding that the qualities that make one a good influencer don't make them a good leader/organizer and vice versa. It's rare to find one person with both. Maybe knowledgable people should start taking media classes, because they will, and IDK if influencers are going to start studying. Something's gotta happen.
1:44 Now I'm waiting for that Plato video. ;)
I'll do another one. I miss the random philosophy vids. I did this a long time ago too ruclips.net/video/Ej6UkmMv1ys/видео.html
Even this comment I'm about to write has to be entertaining so ppl are goin to read it and give me a thumbs up. Stop right there, its not gonna be entertaining. Maye, I watched your video about ppl leaving LA and I stumbled upon this. Very interesting book and thoughts. Many points I would like to talk about (its Lockdown and I'm bored af). But I'll just pick one. 20:01 Why should we be miserable? Obviously I didn't read the book, but I suppose it's not about being miserable. Maybe its about being aware. Aware how dangerous it can be to feel safe and satisfied. You probably heard or read this quote “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” I'm from Vienna, Austria but my roots are in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Small poor villages and simple ppl. One thing that I noticed are the old ppl down there. Women or man, 80 and 90+ are still working around their houses and are able to take care of themselves. Most ppl their age here in Vienna need daily care. Either at home or in a retirement home. What is the common difference? I know I'm am generalizing now. A harder life. If this is true, is it worth striving for a harder life? At least we, who are fortunate enough to even be in a position to think about it? I really don't know. It's not like me fellow herzegovinian ppl are only miserable, they are fun, love to laugh, sing and enjoy life. But they see the world so differently. For us new generations, it seems not understandable. But I'm trying. Maybe we should all.
I have heard that quote and I agree. I personally feel we could get through easy times with self-discipline, but unless people are in sports, have a talent or have strict/negligent parents, it's hard to develop that level of self-discipline. I think it is unfortunately a cycle, and we're in for a rude awakening if we don't tighten up.
volume was so low on this one.
TALK TO US NIIICE!!!
NO!
i don't think tv, social media and internet ruined society. i don't think society is ruined. i think tv, internet and social media have helped spread and normalize different thoughts, ideas and perspectives. growing up, before social media and the internet, i was extremely lost and curious about my surroundings. i wanted to know more about, lets say, a light year. i was limited by my local library and the librarians who ran it. i remember asking my teacher how fast a light year was. none of my teachers could answer that for me. i remember sleeping in the library over my stacks of books searching for my answer after watching an episode of star trek: the next generation. none of those books answered my question. today, i can pull up google in my pocket and get my answer in a split second. with the internet, social media and sometimes the tv, i can pull an almost endless amount of ideas and information that spiral my curiosity into the unknown. it's amazing. we only had these things for almost a century, so these medias are still in their infancies, compared to the universe. i think people are still learning how to adapt to this light speed of thought and ideas. we are taking baby steps and there will be times that we fall or get lost along the way. we have descended from experts who have been winging it for thousands of years. "to infinity..."
Star Trek is an example of TV at its finest. The morals and science are spot on. Lots of producers don't care, so I appreciate ST a lot more now.
I have a television, it's only for decoration. I watch my phone.😉
Ah yes, because the world was a bag of roses before TV and social media. People just want something to blame for society's flaws.
At least the murder rate is down!! (For now)
Has TV ruined society? Really good question and a thought that old people have had sense the before time. I don't feel like it had single handedly ruined society but I do think that it has exacerbated the issues of an already influential people. Humans have always craved entertainment (ex. Gladiators). TV is a gift and a curse in my mind. Does it pull us away from books? Probably. Does that makes us less intellectual? Well I certainly have a harder time remembering the beginning of lectures or even conversations without writing notes so maybe. I respect what ...see, I don't remember what the author's name is...what the guy says about entertainment influencing politics, teaching, and religion or at least how it's presented. Too much evidence to say otherwise. Glad to watch this piece of entertainment given the recent foolishness. Thanks!
You're welcome! I'm the same but I know people younger than me who don't take notes at all so ...
As Doc Brown would say "Ronald Reagan?! The Actor?!?! hah!
Side note: do you have IG? I heard you make crazy cool paintings!
Yes, it's @MayePaints
I'm working on something now!
RUclips is the only social media I use. Because you can mostly control what you watch.
YT is the best platform IMO for the same reason. People think it's pranks and unboxings, but there's so much great content on here. Now, the algorithm doesn't even show me the silly stuff anymore
@@MayeMuses you have to search for the silly stuff
"For the first few hundred years of the United States..." ? 👀
Including colonial US, so from 1630, should've been more specific!
@@MayeMuses I was like hmmm, great video like usual. Check out "Hardcore History with Dan Carlin" good stuff.
I'm interested in what you think about the new WW84 movie taking place a year before this book dropped. And how it uses Television to grant peoples wishes. Do you feel that is why it was set in that time period? Great video as always!
Thank you. I haven't seen it yet, because of all the bad reviews, but if it's dealing with this topic, I'll check it out
the issue of your philosofy of enjoy and have fun etc is that it's done at the expense of future generations well being. Hard times are just the hangover of the "too good" times,
I'm editing a video to address this very issue. Our definition of "fun" is skewed in the USA. We think fun is consumption. I grew up in a Puritanical state with a stoic academic family, who are still fun to me, but that's too extreme for most people. Other people work 12 hr days and just want to chill afterward. There has to be a happy medium. My personal "fun" to discipline ratio is 1:3, 1/4 "fun," 3/4 discipline.
Future Shock is another great read!
On the list
Maya you are wonderful
Great video with strong points to really make people aware and get them thinking!
Thank you!
@@MayeMuses very welcome Maye!
Hey Maya. Great work but quick suggestion, could you work on an intro or a lighter/dumber way to introduce us to the subject matter and then slowly take us deeper? I got confused 4 minutes into this video and had to restart it. Or maybe I just got low IQ 🤷♂️😅
LOL! I'll try
I’m a 80s baby n I never heard of this book. U did a good review, it kind of sounds like that book 1985, there no doubt we were all born into everything wrong (and right) with the world, I’m not sure how ur channel came up (prob RUclips algorithm), but this platform is a hybrid of TV since it not as censored as TV (but beginning to be) and has advertisements (early on RUclips didn’t have advertisements), either way what is most important (esp times like these) is that you’re solid in who you are and whose you are (keep YHWH (God) first thru Yahshua (Jesus)), we’ve all been so influenced (aka brainwashed) about religion and who we are that getting this takes a lot of time (literally one would have to unlearn everything they’ve been taught from schools, churches, tv etc., and learn the Bible (Hebrew the best since that the original writing, but it not required there a lot of meat in the English version) comparing it to their life experiences to make sense of themselves and their surroundings, I hope u take the time to read it, it a lot longer than the book u reviewed but it worth it! Take care.
Wow!
Lol Shout out to Dynasty
Yeah. Some of us are not at all amused 😑
I honestly wish that TV would go back to cutting off at a night with the American flag waving idk what decade this happened maybe the 60’s but I don’t see the need for Advertising on TV at 1am 🤷🏾♀️
They still did that in the 90's, right? Let me look
It's even reflected in the architecture. The older architecture is more beautiful, and it shows that we had a society of craftsmen and skilled workers. I look at many old wooden winding stairs, and I know that we can't build stairs like that today...
Fiat money system; everyone is chasing government-issued money. We were born into a 'Matrix' system, and the controllers of that system aren't admitting to sh|t (despite us basically having figured out the deception), and they're concurrently closing off all the exits. And then they call us various pejoratives when we even meekly criticise them.
You know what, that makes sense. Architecture started getting ugly when TV came out. I'm not an architect, so I don't know how they're correlated but it def times out.
Hi maye love ur videos
The problem is that taking postman’s warning seriously would involve the painful transitions necessary to decouple entertainment from education. That’s RUclips video essayist’s only claim to respectability, the idea that they’re an insightful island in a sea of noise. They are not part of, but the literal essence of the stultifying dynamic And I think you can tell once you stop pretending that these glorified high school projects are deep. They are, at the absolute best, basic introductions to topics better pursued through reading. Which nobody really does.
I should add that goes not just for maya, but every one using this medium.
Minimize RUclips. Read.
the audio is way to low
Noted!
Something I believe is that culture begins in the church
True. Really depends on what church you're in. Some churches are like TV productions now.
Do manga and comics count as reading?😅
I disagree with one thing Martin & Malcolm would have a million followers ......... On social media cause they quotes make good post.
SN: Internet and Social media is great in the way how fast the information hit our hands. Also you find like minded people like yourself on Social media cause growing up in the a small town rural area is the worst and hunting is the best thing to do
i respectfully disagree. i think this generation would not have been as receptive to them. my belief is that Malcom and Martin would have been boxed in and pigeon holed into the "conscious community" or considered some form of hotep. all those post worthy quotes only appeal to certain people. not the vast majority. and the environment that inspired said quotes is so different that they may not be as relatable to this generation.
That's true. It's making knowledge accessible to everyone, not just people born near a university. It only takes a handful of gifted minds to break out of that rural trap to make a huge difference
That's sad, but I agree. I suspect they'd have a small but loyal following, and everyone else would just think of Malcolm like Farrakhan. MLK could get a correspondent job, but not if he's talking about poverty :(
Maye is the most informative and interesting person I’ve watched on RUclips, real talk. I’m just waiting for her to drop some merch 👀😉
First and foremost. blessings and well wishes to you Maye..and my love as always. thoughts before reading? postman has points. i tend to lean more toward your point at 23:25 in terms of looking at this from the modern day. the world has been fucked. social media for all its "detriment" has opened up a wealth of knowledge. it takes the will to go and search for information. i also think you were right in saying we did this to ourselves. ive struggled with wondering if its our nature to relinquish power to authority, but it sure seems like we put the power of living in the hand sof the producers. do i think tv or social media ruins society? not without the intention of man to take it there. last on the subject. entertainment isnt a fault excess is. sprinkling entertainment into teaching can be super helpful and life without enjoyment is arguably not a life to live. so on that point i cant get down with postman. but i do think its healthy to take time away from it so it doesnt become all encompassing.
also school house rock use to slap fam...if he saw schoolhouse rock...hed like it eventually
That thing you said about authority is really interesting. Social media has taken that to 1000. It might be something hardwired, which is terrifying.
@@MayeMuses terrifying indeed. one of my working theories is that its a subset of group mind or group think that was manipulated and exploited once certain forms of authority became prominant. and now the habitual part of it all has taken over and its become a reflex of sorts. either way spooky business. also good seeing you again. love the videos and the food for thought. bless
Maya you are an interesting woman for real
Yup she beautiful
I think another downside of televangelists is the same as teaching as entertainment people allow the televangelist to do all the work they take their word without actually reading, praying for themselves, ect.
is that part the downside of the televangelist? or is that the downside of the person watching? he cant make them "study to show thyself approved"....
@@PHE-nomenon both. Social media has made folks lazier. Too much access to information but you have to actually read and research for yourself.
@@toyaJM exactly. but why is that considered a downside of the televangelist. thats not his fault.
@@PHE-nomenon imo it’s just like the internet it’s not a good or bad thing it’s all in how it’s utilized.
@@toyaJM right ok. i can agree with that.
Tv certainly didn't ruin society, but it didn't make it better either. Social media is vastly different than the television age, print, or radio for the following reasons:
1. No regulation. I'm no fan of censorship, however, the gatekeepers did serve as quality control. If you wanted to become a writer you needed credentials, if you wanted to comment on a subject, you had to be well versed in what you were talking about. Today all you need is a computer and someone with idol time. The amount of misinformation online is mindboggling. To complicate things; your average young person cannot tell if what they are reading is factual or bullshit.
2. Mind masturbation. People fill a void in their lives going online and "winning" arguments with people instead of doing the shit that sucks to make things better. They all have dreams and ambitions that they are not pursuing because they are spending 2-5 hours per day arguing online.
3. The echo chamber. You can tell if an idea is good or not by how well it holds up under scrutiny. If there's no counter-argument telling you that eating Tide Pods may not be a good thing to do you're going to end up a bunch of people who eat tide pods. This failed insurrection we just witnessed is what happens when the echo chamber gets out of hand. It's literally dangerous.
4. It's addictive. As bad as television was, it was never addictive. Most of the shows were garbage and we had more fun going outside or hanging with friends. Plus the television stayed at home. Social media is always with you.
5. It's invasive. CBS, ABC, and NBC never had access to my phone contacts. They didn't know who my friends are. Where I like to spend my time. And who I'm most likely to vote for. Apple, Google, Amazon, and Facebook have your fingerprint, voice, and face stored somewhere on a computer. Most people wouldn't share this information with anyone but you willingly handed it over to a tech company so they could sell it to someone who needs to manipulate you.
I told everyone in 2008 that Facebook was mind-controlling its users.
Human beings did not evolve to interact with each other via computer apps.
Mark my words: social media, AI, and advanced robotics will destabilize and erode society as we know it.
The dystopia is here.
Btw: I enjoyed the video.
That's true, because the past ten years have been like the 20th century except on steroids. I think the echo chamber started with the Limbaugh crew in the 90's, and the internet has run with it. Also, I had to delete my FB because I couldn't handle it, and it wasn't contributing enough to my life for the time it was sucking.
Maye television is just like anything else, there is a good side and there's a bad side. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. You could say the same thing about television that you can about books it's all about what you put into it. When I was little I may have watched Transformers and GI Joe along with Jake and The Fat Man but, I also had to pick up a book every once in awhile. that along with watching Nova with my father made me a more well rounded person .My aunt was a teacher and she imparted into me the importance of a good education along with being entertained. Yes! there is garbage on television but, it is only there because you have so many garbage people running it. Just like with journalism and the Internet that will always be people who of Atlanta exist ? It is because there are those in power who do not want you to think at all. It is up to the viewer and consumer what they find to be intellectually stimulating. We became a society of being entertained way before 1985 . That is only because society is moving so fast now you have to do something to capture someone's attention! I wish it worked that way but, sometimes you have to deal with what you got . You can find just as much trash in a book as you can on television. Now with the Internet you have to seek out be intelligent material and conversation. That is one of the reasons why I was drawn to your RUclips channel!
Thank you! And I agree. Some books are 100% for entertainment. I would also like to test your point about the garbage people running TV soon. I have seen some execs rejecting quality content because it doesn't sell, and I've seen some just not care about accuracy. I hope those execs will be pushed out and replaced by people with higher standards but only if the public demands it.
@@MayeMuses they won't do that because it would require the writers to think.
The million dollar question is, what is the benefit of intelligence, in a society that rewards lack of intelligence, and seems to cater to the functionality of those who don't value intelligence.
There's a reason the Highest paid state employees are college Football Coaches at Public Universities.
And I disagree with your take on social media being a continuation
Social Media is far more interactive
Suggestive and intrusive to the Psyche ... Plus social media far more integrated into everyday function than any invention in human history...
T.V was hypnosis
Social Media is MK Ultra
They out earn tenured professors by close to %3000
id have to disagree on the entertaining education stint to a degree, Ive found my love of science stemmed from entertaining videos cause the way it was being taught didnt retain. I think that making it the only means may be wrong, but if you make the educational content and make it entertaining but dont invite free thought then youre playing a dangerous game. Like youtube shows like because science and Vsauce Ive wanted to know more and more about the sciences. I dont think entertaining education is the problem, i think watering down for the sake of ratings and calling it education is the real villain in this saga.
Yes, the history channel did that, and now, it's ruined. Thought it was more entertaining before it tried to be good TV
@@MayeMuses that's unfortunate, but yet again RUclips is taking over the tv have you heard of kurzgesagt?
@@360spider06 I just looked them up right now. DOPE! My whole day is gone now
@@MayeMuses im tryina tell ya thats that educational fire, my YT algorithm is nothing but: videogames, politics, and whatever science that comes down the pipe line. Usually physics/astro physics and computer science.
Now allow me to get you hooked again....do yu watch vsauce?
cute af
Can't stop the shit show. Just grab some tp before there's another shortage.
In short I highly disagree but I can understand someone that’s 50-60+ can feel how dude felt in the book if they’re not willing to enjoy technology and learn with the times which seem ironic because it’ll go against the whole learning argument..........
It's hard though. I know people born in the 80's rejecting technology instead of adapting to it. Can't tell them anything.