@@shampec6185 rewatch the video, author clearly said that he didnt have any issues cooling that 12600k with that small air cooler. just because it needs more wats doesnt mean its harder to cool.
@@lucasf4rt523 you are technically correct but you forgot the most important factor. Thermal density, the smaller cpu die is and the more power it consumes the hotter it is and the harder is to dissipate that heat. Thats why some cpus such as HEDT cpus has no issues running above 200w, meanwhile something like 5800x will be extremely hard to cool even with top tier air cooler such as nhd15.
@@lucasf4rt523 also very good example is gpu cooling vs cpu cooling, gpus can be cooled at 300W without big issues with air cooling, while in most cpus at 300W you are looking purely at water cooling territory, thats because cpu die is much smaller than gpu.
Upgraded to the 12600k from my 6600k, very happy with the performance. Had an agonizing month where I had every single part for my build except ddr5 ram. I had purchased a ddr5 board before I realized there was a shortage.
I went i5-4690 to i7-11700K. The performance jump was nice and honestly I'm just kind of glad I didn't have to deal with any of the headache with the E cores some people have had. I grabbed my 11th gen right before 12th launched.
The 12600k is very nice indeed. I bought a 5600X in 2021, when the 12th gen was not available. Honestly I don't regret it, because despite the lower performance, it tops around 70W and 62 C with a cheap air cooler on benchmarks such as prime95, nearly half of the power consumption of the 12600k on demanding workloads
3770k to 3700x is like going from 3770k to 9900k~ performance wise, still a good upgrade don't understand me wrong, but 2600k to 12600k would be like going from fx 8350 to between 5800x-5900x performance wise, absolutely insane
under rated content! I also am having trouble pushing the 12600k to its TDP and potential. I have a feeling it is software capped to make the 12900k more desirable. My Gigabyte bios is very vague when it comes to overclocking though. I cannot seem to push the clock past 49 for some reason... another hint that its all a software cap, I have the decent mobo.
Its such a pleasure to watch your videos which show the love and care you have for your PC. I also have a PC but with a I7 4790 which i am upgrading to a 12700K, i am planning to keep my 4790 as a back up PC or maybe give it to my daughter and expect it to last for the next 10 years to come. Greetings from Peru.
I went from the 3930K to the AMD 5950X in 2020, from a GTX 560 to 2x 980 TI to a 1080 ti. That system served me well for many years. When I started playing Escape From Tarkov and MW I kind of had no choice. Now I'm running the 5950X with a 6800XT.
This is dope. I ended up upgrading my i7-2600(non-k) and 16gb of DDR3 at 1333mhz to a i5-8400 and the same Corsair DDR4 memory you have except 32gb at 3000mhz. It also came with a low profile Noctua cooler and Z370 Gigabyte board for all for around $150 used through a local seller. He was upgrading to Alder Lake, and I'm glad to get it from him. I mainly use my PC as a combination of a test bed, media center, and gaming. I'm still on a GTX 1050 2gb, but thanks to the CPU and ram upgrade. I was to play Halo Infinite at a stable 1080p 30fps😂. I couldn't get 60fps at any other scaling or resolution. Halo Infinite is very ram intensive including Vram intensive. I'm just happy you upgraded similar to me. I tend to have a better go in the used market. Hope to find maybe a Nvidia or AMD workstation card like the Tesla M40 12gb to hopefully upgrade my setup cause the even though it had no display ports. I can use the iGPU or UHD 630 of the i5-8400 now to pass the display data of the Tesla M40 when setting any graphical program to high performance. I'll hopefully upgrade to that if the RTX 3050 8gb doesn't end up tempting me. Like your videos. Keep being the smooth gentleman you are. 😊
Try upgrading to a 8700k, the hyper-threading can really eliminate stutter in some modern games like Cyberpunk. 6 cores alone isn't enough anymore sometimes. Gamers Nexus had a video about it.
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk I've been thinking about that. My brother has the i7-8700(non k) and 32gb ram at 3600mhz. I got the i7-8700 years ago by trading an office PC to a guy so his folks had one and paying $100 instead of his priced $200. My brother been using the i7-8700 for a while. Based on the performance seen here by the Alder Lakes, that might be a good upgrade for him cause he edits a ton. The only thing that concerns me is the TDP. Not because of the thermal output, but because of power draw. He's a guy who will run a PC 24/7...'sighs'...and happens to never clean his case or components. Nothing wrong with done dust, but 'whew' it's insane though. But I honestly believe that an even slight higher TDP will make just a bare minimum amount of thermal output that will set his PC on fire. Either way, he is an editor for others(which makes me look at his system and I wonder how much he cares for his job). And if he ever bites the bullet for an upgrade. I'm gonna see if I can get the i7-8700 I got a while back into my system. Then he can sell his motherboard and my i5-8400 making him his money and me getting a 6core with hyper threading. However, I'm not gonna be down his throat either about it. It's just something I'd like to bring up as a future idea to him and to see if he is up for it. It's just when he upgrades eventually. I'd would just like to have the CPU is all. I ended up building his whole editing system by the way. I'm just not an editor in anyway. And also, I have a GTX 1050 2gb right now. So upgrading to an even better CPU for more headroom wouldn't really make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Wow going from the Sandy bridge era with a master piece of a CPU in the 2600K to Alder Lake 12600K is more than impressive and boy have do you get max value out of your spend!
I have used an i7-2600K with gigabyte motherboard since it first came out. Just priced a CyberPowerPC with a Asus Z690 Hero to get pcie 5 m.2 and thunderbolt so I can go another decade without wanting to upgrade. I think I'll wait a little longer to see what AMD is about to announce and see if any motherboards pop up with pcie 5.0 m.2 onboard. Really liked your video.
I recommend using DXVK on GTA 4, it can double the FPS depending on the configuration, and even when it doesn't improve FPS, it does improve frame times and stability overall.
I love the video, you are just like me reuse the same parts such as the case, power supply, and GPU, great upgrade and you waited to decide what platform to use from the LGA 1200 or the LGA 1700. the main thing is how much watt does the CPU air Coller handles I like the air cooler. I love the ending and I agree with you do not need a $100-dollar aio to keep your system cool. This air cooler is on my radar, and you did not hit high temps using this 32-dollar air cooler.
Got this cpu early this here and upgraded from a 1060 to a rtx 3070 8gb this July when gpu prices came back to normality.... really love to use it to work with Figma and Adobe suite, it smokes my old i7 3770 and 2019 macbook pro.... like I can literally open a crazy amount of browser tabs in Chrome and Firefox while working and having a lot of background processes and all the communication apps, all with 3 plugged monitors (one 4k and two 1080p)... and it never skips a beat. The only thing I might need to ugrade is the ssd as I have a sata ssd and I want to go nvme... but this is already so sweet since I have to use this system almost everyday for many hours.
That was a big leap from the i7 2600k to the 12600k, props to you man. How would you rate my upgrade from a laptop with pentium 2020m to a ryzen 5 5500?
Can I put any speed memory in a MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk WiFi board? Even if it says max memory is 3200MHz? As I am thinking of buying a 3600MHz DDR4 memory.
Hey man, how much did you spend on the cooler? Cuz from what i see, the single fan version of the fortis 5 is priced similarly to the fera 5 dual fan and even from the pictures i can tell its much bigger (i was suprised that it was a single tower, and not a double tower with a fan in the middle) And btw, speaking of similar pricing, are the gigabyte gaming x boards priced near the price of the msi pro in your country? I plan on getting a build like that, and i found that aside for the cheaper asus prime that doesnt look that appealing due to less m.2 slots and poorer i/o, there are 2 options, a gigabyte gaming x board, and the msi pro one, so, what do you think about the gigabyte gaming x, and is it worth buying over the msi pro? (Or the aorus elite in that matter, because ts the same pcb just with some bigger radiators and a lit up logo to make it look better, even the websites with info about the gaming x and the aorus elite are the same to the point that they forgot to switch the numbers listing the features so on one of them, thunderbolt and intel 12th gen support were switched and the tb was listed on the socket and 12th gen support was listed on an internal usb c connector)
Not long ago I upgraded from my i7 2600K@4.4GHz, Asus P8P67 PRO B3, 4x4GB DDR3 1600 RAM. Had been using this system from 2011. I upgraded to a Ryzen R5 5600x with 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM. My i7 2600K was still working nice for my needs, but I noticed after the upgrade my machine felt more responsive for regular use. And in Borderlands 3, using the same GTX 1070 I had been using on the i7 2600K from 2017 I noticed a huge difference. In the BL3 benchmark the i7 2600K was just a few frames behind the Ryzen. But when playing the game I had to turn a lot of settings down on the i7 to mostly keep 60FPS and avoid stuttering. And even then it would drop to 30-40FPS when alot was going on in the game. Whilst the Ryzen was rock solid at 60FPS, at much higher graphics settings, would never drop below 60FPS and felt alot more smooth. So huge difference. As fantastic as the i7 2600K was, ugrading to an entry level platform like the R5 5600x did make a huge difference for gaming at least. But the i7 2600K is still legendary. I had it for 13 years. that's some serious value.
you picked a great motherboard you have so many upgrades options. my advice is to not wait till the cpu is no longer viable i would sell it in a year or 2 and get a 14600k or 14700k you will get most of your back for your 12600k
this reminds me of when I changed from q8200 to i7 7700k while using a GTX560 - specifically in Battlefield 3 at that time (25fps => 90+). Obviously for how I use a computer these days in 3d rendering those specs didn't exactly stay in the case for that long
I also got the 12600K but the F version with the Fera 5 ARGB, paired with 32GB 3200mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL and a Inno3D 3060Ti Twin X2. Perfect for me 🙂
you should change the psu, yes is still working but the ripple suppression can be fault and you can't know that and it will destroy your motherboard or the gpu...
Hello mister.Need opinion. I will upgrade in few weeks right now I'm on i7 2700k 3.5Hgz :) I made plan to get i5 12600k , msi pro z690 A ddr4 wifi, Dark Rock Pro4 cpu air cooler, Ram 3200-360l 16-18cl 2x16gb any maker just cheap better, ssd samsung 980 pro m2 4pcle, Case be quite pure base 500dx blk. Gpu and psu I have already gigabyte gtx1660 super , power corsar 550. Please can you tell your opinion and all compatible?
This vid again just proves to me personally that i don't need a i5 or i7 of these gens cause for my needs the i3 12100 or i3 13100 that's coming will be good especially when paired with a RTX 3060 or RX 6600 gpu.
In 2019 I did a comparable upgrade from a 2008 HP dc5850 with a Phenom II X4 B97 (4x 3.2GHz) and 8GB DDR2 (800Mhz) to an own build a Ryzen 3 2200G (4x 3.7GHz OC) and 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz). I've added a 512GB Silicon Power nvme-SSD. An upgrade with a 2x faster CPU and a nvme (3400/2300MB/s)! I collect Virtual Machines, like all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) to 11 (2022), including the NT releases from the nineties and the Ubuntu LTS releases from 4.10 the first; 5.04 my first and 6.06 LTS to 22.04 LTS and now the 23.04 Development Edition :)
just picked up a msi tomahawk z690 ddr4 ( was the same price as this MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 board for me locally ) and a 12600k , 2x16 Gb HP DDR3600 and a HP FX900 Pro 1TB Gen4x4 NVMe ( these seem v fast ) , going to try it with a deepcool gammaxx 400 dual fan air cooler. im upgrading from a gigabyte z390 gaming sli / I5-9600k . I did not want to wait for a equivalent gen 13 cpu and appropriately specced motherboard combo to both be available at a reasonable price whilst semi decent memory and storage is also available at reasonable prices, who knows what inflation and or other issues we could be facing in the future.
The 12600k is still today a GREAT budget beast, built one for my friend 8-9 months ago with a 12600k/3080ti 3600mhz 32gb and it eats everything in 1440p. a 12600k is MORE THAN ENOUGH paired with a 3070-3080+, hell even a 10600k-11600k/5600x are GREAT cpus and will be more than enough for the coming years.
My upgrade was 12900K 128 GB DDR5 ECC 4800 and RTX 3090. 1685 Euro. The RTX 3090 was completely free, I invested in 15 RTX 3080 for price of 700-800 Euro and sold them on eBay for 999-1099 Euro so I got my RTX 3090 for free. And I invested money into Super Micro Mainboard. Without AIO 330mm the CPU is not usable with Turbo Mode. But the upgrade to AIO was helpful and Temps are around 83°C on full load.
I have the same board, and I ordered the SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan cooler. The Fera was not specified as compatible with LGA1700 on the site where I bought it, and I didn't check around. I hope it will be enough for the 12900k in normal tasks, I won't do stress testing. I saw that in demanding games like Cyberpunk it can get quite hot, there is a video on YT already. I hate water coolers.
so, how's your system has been? i've gone with a Deepcool AK620 with my 12600k and damn, at stock clocks the thing is silent. but you dont buy a z690 mobo with a K cpu to run it at stock clocks, so at 5.0/4.0 all cores temps are around 85C, no thermal throttling. for 70 bucks the cooler is great
Pop out, then pop in...and just like that you have an awesome upgrade. This is why I prefer desktop PCs. Coming from the 6600, I got the 12400 with Stock cooler and DDR4-3600
So base clock of non-K intel CPUs are in range of 2 GHz and for K it's in 3 GHz range. While boost clock is almost same ,generally at a 100 mhz difference at around 5GHz. In benchmarks both K and non K CPUs perform very close. What does the base clock signifies? I mean what's the benifit/con of lower base clock? Why non K CPUs have much lower base clock than their K counterparts I tried finding good answer on this but didn't found a perfect answer anywhere, see if you know. I wanted a 12700 non K but base clock id low
The base clock is the all-core clock speed at which the CPU outputs the listed TDP (thermal design power). Non-K chips have a lower TDP (like 65W for the i7-12700) than K chips (like 150W for the i7-12700K) and therefore the base clock for non-K chips is lower. So in practice (using stock settings) the non-k chips will run at a lower all-core frequency when under load.
@@FullyBuffered I've decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to i5 12400f with a b660 board that unlocks the i5 processor. Let's see when it arrives if I can get it up to 5 GHz. 204€ board 178€ prossesor and 138€ for 16GB DDR 5 total is 517€. Will be upgrading from an x5675 @ 4.5ghz so should see a difference with a 1070ti
I was rocking a ryzen 5 3600 but it began having bsods at random, ive talked to rma and sent it to Florida but idk if they will aprove it, I was thinking in upgrading to the same chip that you have, but I still have my b550 tuf and the ryzen 5600 looks like a great option imo, eitherway I'll be waiting for the RMA
I'm watching this right now on the 2600k and the exact same MB P8Z68-V PRO that you just upgraded from. So I guess it is finally time to upgrade to. I really don't want to run windows 11 at this time. Is it possible and easy to disable the e-cores in the bios for compatibility with windows 10? I haven't found the answer to this since I can't find videos showing alder lake MB bios's. I might go for an i7-12700 to get 8 p-cores for premiere. If there is no easy way to disable the e-cores in the bios then I will have to buy an alder lake cpu without any e-cores. Thanks for your help and thanks for the video! This is finally a very exciting time that took intel way to long.
Got the I5 12600kf and same motherboard running at 5.158 ghz all core and 5.362 ghz turbo, e-cores at 4.148 ghz. I have seen it eat away 180 watts in some tests 😂
hello , i love your channel , i really enjoy watching your contents , i suggest you to change your power supply , its aged psu , you should consider to change it with new one :)
I have SilentiumPC Fera 5 (single fan) cooler on i5-11400. With unlocked power in synthetic load (prime95) it can draw up to 144 W peak, 130 W average and even with 28 C room temperature and closed, poorly ventillated case temperature of CPU didn't even hit 90 C (60 C delta above ambient temperature). Dual fan offers very little performance boost over single fan while increasing noise level (according to internet tests), so I picked the more silent(ium) option. Did I mention my fan curve is tweaked down? It's barely audible at full load while not thermal throttling in bad case/ambient scenario. Meanwhile my friends are listening to their fancy, expensive AIO pumps.
Super video, hai. I try to build something similar: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4+CORE 5-12600K+Noctua NH-U12S chromax.Black+PATRIOT 16GB Viper Steel DDR4 4400MHz CL19 +ADATA 1TB XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 PCIe+MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB VENTUS XS OC + MSI MPG Series A850GF 80+Gold+SSD+HDD. It takes a while for, what you think🤔
interesting how long will take that middle video cards will cost $300 as in past. generation middle starts from x1.5 of consoles' performance 6700xt. previously 2-3 years from new consoles appearance was enough to come to this, those are passed but prices keep be crazy. other middle level hardware is also overpriced in 2-3 times. monopolism is bad
The video has been in the edit for a while - I wanted to get other videos (like the Ares CF) out first. I might end up sharing the results on Twitter as it’s a bit light on content for a full video
It's great value and a deal, but budget is different. The 12400 with a non overclocking mainboard (B660) is a good budget build because the single core performance is still very high. You can almost buy two of those for the price of 12600k+z690 :)
Air cooler price in my country is 100$, I wish i could find cheap cooler, also the brand of psus so bad and i can't buy online cuz i don't know how to build the pc by mesilf, so maybe i will end up with 12400
are you actually gaming at 1080p...if so, that's a bit uh, well ya no wonder you see a 50% increase in performance? That's not really helpful information in 2022. At the root of it, essentially the question everyone wants answered is/was, is it worth the cost of a cheap used car, to potentially gain yourself ten frames per second on 1440p or higher resolutions where the CPU is not the bottleneck
There's something so elegant about upgrading from the 2600k to the 12600k
but not from 95W to 150W. it may need speed or cores number cut to fit acceptable temperature
@@shampec6185 rewatch the video, author clearly said that he didnt have any issues cooling that 12600k with that small air cooler. just because it needs more wats doesnt mean its harder to cool.
@@h1tzzYT more power = more heat
It's the joule effect
@@lucasf4rt523 you are technically correct but you forgot the most important factor. Thermal density, the smaller cpu die is and the more power it consumes the hotter it is and the harder is to dissipate that heat. Thats why some cpus such as HEDT cpus has no issues running above 200w, meanwhile something like 5800x will be extremely hard to cool even with top tier air cooler such as nhd15.
@@lucasf4rt523 also very good example is gpu cooling vs cpu cooling, gpus can be cooled at 300W without big issues with air cooling, while in most cpus at 300W you are looking purely at water cooling territory, thats because cpu die is much smaller than gpu.
Mad respect for your, price to preformance, skills!
Thanks!
Upgraded to the 12600k from my 6600k, very happy with the performance. Had an agonizing month where I had every single part for my build except ddr5 ram. I had purchased a ddr5 board before I realized there was a shortage.
Nice! I did consider DDR5 for a while as well
DDR5 just no where near worth the premium over DDR4
I went i5-4690 to i7-11700K. The performance jump was nice and honestly I'm just kind of glad I didn't have to deal with any of the headache with the E cores some people have had. I grabbed my 11th gen right before 12th launched.
The 12600k is very nice indeed. I bought a 5600X in 2021, when the 12th gen was not available. Honestly I don't regret it, because despite the lower performance, it tops around 70W and 62 C with a cheap air cooler on benchmarks such as prime95, nearly half of the power consumption of the 12600k on demanding workloads
This channel has really vintage retro vibes, an interesting aesthetic for modern tech reviews
you mean, better than modern tech channels
modern tech channels are soulless wastes
watch it @ 480p 🤤
This is terrific, I'm considering the move from my I7-2600K and this comparison is on point. Thank you for the excellent video.
Nice upgrade. Great step from 2600K to 12600K. I did a similar jump from i7 3770K > Ryzen 7 3700X and got a similar uplift with my vega 64.
bigger .12600k>3700x>3770k>2600k
3770k to 3700x is like going from 3770k to 9900k~ performance wise, still a good upgrade don't understand me wrong, but 2600k to 12600k would be like going from fx 8350 to between 5800x-5900x performance wise, absolutely insane
Awesome video, I was looking into this exact combination and this has given alot of information to go off.
under rated content! I also am having trouble pushing the 12600k to its TDP and potential. I have a feeling it is software capped to make the 12900k more desirable. My Gigabyte bios is very vague when it comes to overclocking though. I cannot seem to push the clock past 49 for some reason... another hint that its all a software cap, I have the decent mobo.
Its such a pleasure to watch your videos which show the love and care you have for your PC. I also have a PC but with a I7 4790 which i am upgrading to a 12700K, i am planning to keep my 4790 as a back up PC or maybe give it to my daughter and expect it to last for the next 10 years to come. Greetings from Peru.
Thank you!
I tought I was the most patient guy to upgrade from 4th gen i5, seems you are better of me upgrading from 2nd gen.
I went from an i5-760 to a 12600K. Love this chip, though it wasn't all happiness since the first one I got was a dud that needed to be replaced.
I went from the 3930K to the AMD 5950X in 2020, from a GTX 560 to 2x 980 TI to a 1080 ti. That system served me well for many years. When I started playing Escape From Tarkov and MW I kind of had no choice. Now I'm running the 5950X with a 6800XT.
i went from 1st gen i5 to ryzen 3 3200g & gtx 1650 and from that to i5 11600kf & 3080 Ti.
Massive perfomance upgrades.
This is dope. I ended up upgrading my i7-2600(non-k) and 16gb of DDR3 at 1333mhz to a i5-8400 and the same Corsair DDR4 memory you have except 32gb at 3000mhz. It also came with a low profile Noctua cooler and Z370 Gigabyte board for all for around $150 used through a local seller. He was upgrading to Alder Lake, and I'm glad to get it from him. I mainly use my PC as a combination of a test bed, media center, and gaming. I'm still on a GTX 1050 2gb, but thanks to the CPU and ram upgrade. I was to play Halo Infinite at a stable 1080p 30fps😂. I couldn't get 60fps at any other scaling or resolution. Halo Infinite is very ram intensive including Vram intensive.
I'm just happy you upgraded similar to me. I tend to have a better go in the used market. Hope to find maybe a Nvidia or AMD workstation card like the Tesla M40 12gb to hopefully upgrade my setup cause the even though it had no display ports. I can use the iGPU or UHD 630 of the i5-8400 now to pass the display data of the Tesla M40 when setting any graphical program to high performance. I'll hopefully upgrade to that if the RTX 3050 8gb doesn't end up tempting me.
Like your videos. Keep being the smooth gentleman you are. 😊
Try upgrading to a 8700k, the hyper-threading can really eliminate stutter in some modern games like Cyberpunk. 6 cores alone isn't enough anymore sometimes. Gamers Nexus had a video about it.
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk I've been thinking about that. My brother has the i7-8700(non k) and 32gb ram at 3600mhz. I got the i7-8700 years ago by trading an office PC to a guy so his folks had one and paying $100 instead of his priced $200.
My brother been using the i7-8700 for a while. Based on the performance seen here by the Alder Lakes, that might be a good upgrade for him cause he edits a ton. The only thing that concerns me is the TDP. Not because of the thermal output, but because of power draw. He's a guy who will run a PC 24/7...'sighs'...and happens to never clean his case or components. Nothing wrong with done dust, but 'whew' it's insane though. But I honestly believe that an even slight higher TDP will make just a bare minimum amount of thermal output that will set his PC on fire.
Either way, he is an editor for others(which makes me look at his system and I wonder how much he cares for his job). And if he ever bites the bullet for an upgrade. I'm gonna see if I can get the i7-8700 I got a while back into my system. Then he can sell his motherboard and my i5-8400 making him his money and me getting a 6core with hyper threading.
However, I'm not gonna be down his throat either about it. It's just something I'd like to bring up as a future idea to him and to see if he is up for it. It's just when he upgrades eventually. I'd would just like to have the CPU is all. I ended up building his whole editing system by the way. I'm just not an editor in anyway. And also, I have a GTX 1050 2gb right now. So upgrading to an even better CPU for more headroom wouldn't really make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Thank you very much and best of luck finding a GPU!
@@FullyBuffered Thank you for the content and I only have hope. It's better than nothing 😅
Thanks! Ha yeah that’s for sure
Wow going from the Sandy bridge era with a master piece of a CPU in the 2600K to Alder Lake 12600K is more than impressive and boy have do you get max value out of your spend!
I have used an i7-2600K with gigabyte motherboard since it first came out.
Just priced a CyberPowerPC with a Asus Z690 Hero to get pcie 5 m.2
and thunderbolt so I can go another decade without wanting to upgrade.
I think I'll wait a little longer to see what AMD is about to announce and
see if any motherboards pop up with pcie 5.0 m.2 onboard.
Really liked your video.
It's incredible how this guy is so calm in front of all of this expensive hardware! Remember back when I built the PC of my friend we where so exited!
I recommend using DXVK on GTA 4, it can double the FPS depending on the configuration, and even when it doesn't improve FPS, it does improve frame times and stability overall.
isn't that a way for linuxt to run directx programs ?
@@amer2142 It just translates DirectX calls to Vulkan, so it can run on Windows as well.
I love the video, you are just like me reuse the same parts such as the case, power supply, and GPU, great upgrade and you waited to decide what platform to use from the LGA 1200 or the LGA 1700. the main thing is how much watt does the CPU air Coller handles I like the air cooler. I love the ending and I agree with you do not need a $100-dollar aio to keep your system cool. This air cooler is on my radar, and you did not hit high temps using this 32-dollar air cooler.
Got this cpu early this here and upgraded from a 1060 to a rtx 3070 8gb this July when gpu prices came back to normality.... really love to use it to work with Figma and Adobe suite, it smokes my old i7 3770 and 2019 macbook pro.... like I can literally open a crazy amount of browser tabs in Chrome and Firefox while working and having a lot of background processes and all the communication apps, all with 3 plugged monitors (one 4k and two 1080p)... and it never skips a beat.
The only thing I might need to ugrade is the ssd as I have a sata ssd and I want to go nvme... but this is already so sweet since I have to use this system almost everyday for many hours.
That was a big leap from the i7 2600k to the 12600k, props to you man.
How would you rate my upgrade from a laptop with pentium 2020m to a ryzen 5 5500?
Good, better, Fully Buffered! Thanks for the upgrade review!
Thanks for your very informative video ! Though i was wondering if you did a fresh install of windows or do you just keep your old installation ?
Can I put any speed memory in a MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk WiFi board? Even if it says max memory is 3200MHz? As I am thinking of buying a 3600MHz DDR4 memory.
Are you running windows 11 so the e cores are getting the correct priority? I have a 2500k, and I'll looking at 12400f for a platform upgrade.
Hey man, how much did you spend on the cooler? Cuz from what i see, the single fan version of the fortis 5 is priced similarly to the fera 5 dual fan and even from the pictures i can tell its much bigger (i was suprised that it was a single tower, and not a double tower with a fan in the middle)
And btw, speaking of similar pricing, are the gigabyte gaming x boards priced near the price of the msi pro in your country? I plan on getting a build like that, and i found that aside for the cheaper asus prime that doesnt look that appealing due to less m.2 slots and poorer i/o, there are 2 options, a gigabyte gaming x board, and the msi pro one, so, what do you think about the gigabyte gaming x, and is it worth buying over the msi pro? (Or the aorus elite in that matter, because ts the same pcb just with some bigger radiators and a lit up logo to make it look better, even the websites with info about the gaming x and the aorus elite are the same to the point that they forgot to switch the numbers listing the features so on one of them, thunderbolt and intel 12th gen support were switched and the tb was listed on the socket and 12th gen support was listed on an internal usb c connector)
Not long ago I upgraded from my i7 2600K@4.4GHz, Asus P8P67 PRO B3, 4x4GB DDR3 1600 RAM. Had been using this system from 2011. I upgraded to a Ryzen R5 5600x with 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM. My i7 2600K was still working nice for my needs, but I noticed after the upgrade my machine felt more responsive for regular use. And in Borderlands 3, using the same GTX 1070 I had been using on the i7 2600K from 2017 I noticed a huge difference. In the BL3 benchmark the i7 2600K was just a few frames behind the Ryzen. But when playing the game I had to turn a lot of settings down on the i7 to mostly keep 60FPS and avoid stuttering. And even then it would drop to 30-40FPS when alot was going on in the game. Whilst the Ryzen was rock solid at 60FPS, at much higher graphics settings, would never drop below 60FPS and felt alot more smooth. So huge difference. As fantastic as the i7 2600K was, ugrading to an entry level platform like the R5 5600x did make a huge difference for gaming at least. But the i7 2600K is still legendary. I had it for 13 years. that's some serious value.
you picked a great motherboard you have so many upgrades options. my advice is to not wait till the cpu is no longer viable i would sell it in a year or 2 and get a 14600k or 14700k you will get most of your back for your 12600k
this reminds me of when I changed from q8200 to i7 7700k while using a GTX560 - specifically in Battlefield 3 at that time (25fps => 90+). Obviously for how I use a computer these days in 3d rendering those specs didn't exactly stay in the case for that long
Wow, coincidentally I’m doing this same setup right now!!
Looking forward to your 22600k video, I'll be 93.
Hey, can you tell me if you tested both windows 10 and windows 11 on intel 12th gen and if you did were there any differences?
I also got the 12600K but the F version with the Fera 5 ARGB, paired with 32GB 3200mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL and a Inno3D 3060Ti Twin X2. Perfect for me 🙂
This dude is the most calm voice of all youtube meanwhile other youtuber be like: SUP GUYS IS ME SHIT GAMING HERE!
you should change the psu, yes is still working but the ripple suppression can be fault and you can't know that and it will destroy your motherboard or the gpu...
Hello mister.Need opinion. I will upgrade in few weeks right now I'm on i7 2700k 3.5Hgz :)
I made plan to get i5 12600k , msi pro z690 A ddr4 wifi, Dark Rock Pro4 cpu air cooler, Ram 3200-360l 16-18cl 2x16gb any maker just cheap better, ssd samsung 980 pro m2 4pcle, Case be quite pure base 500dx blk. Gpu and psu I have already gigabyte gtx1660 super , power corsar 550.
Please can you tell your opinion and all compatible?
Sounds good 👍🏻 Just make sure that the Dark Rock has LGA1700 compatibility
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@@FullyBuffered build works all looks well have question about xmp set up for ddr4 3200 cl6. What gear to use ? G1 or G2
This vid again just proves to me personally that i don't need a i5 or i7 of these gens cause for my needs the i3 12100 or i3 13100 that's coming will be good especially when paired with a RTX 3060 or RX 6600 gpu.
Thank you for the informative video.
In 2019 I did a comparable upgrade from a 2008 HP dc5850 with a Phenom II X4 B97 (4x 3.2GHz) and 8GB DDR2 (800Mhz) to an own build a Ryzen 3 2200G (4x 3.7GHz OC) and 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz). I've added a 512GB Silicon Power nvme-SSD. An upgrade with a 2x faster CPU and a nvme (3400/2300MB/s)!
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just picked up a msi tomahawk z690 ddr4 ( was the same price as this MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 board for me locally ) and a 12600k , 2x16 Gb HP DDR3600 and a HP FX900 Pro 1TB Gen4x4 NVMe ( these seem v fast ) , going to try it with a deepcool gammaxx 400 dual fan air cooler. im upgrading from a gigabyte z390 gaming sli / I5-9600k .
I did not want to wait for a equivalent gen 13 cpu and appropriately specced motherboard combo to both be available at a reasonable price whilst semi decent memory and storage is also available at reasonable prices, who knows what inflation and or other issues we could be facing in the future.
The 12600k is still today a GREAT budget beast, built one for my friend 8-9 months ago with a 12600k/3080ti 3600mhz 32gb and it eats everything in 1440p.
a 12600k is MORE THAN ENOUGH paired with a 3070-3080+, hell even a 10600k-11600k/5600x are GREAT cpus and will be more than enough for the coming years.
My upgrade was 12900K 128 GB DDR5 ECC 4800 and RTX 3090. 1685 Euro. The RTX 3090 was completely free, I invested in 15 RTX 3080 for price of 700-800 Euro and sold them on eBay for 999-1099 Euro so I got my RTX 3090 for free. And I invested money into Super Micro Mainboard. Without AIO 330mm the CPU is not usable with Turbo Mode. But the upgrade to AIO was helpful and Temps are around 83°C on full load.
I have the same board, and I ordered the SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan cooler. The Fera was not specified as compatible with LGA1700 on the site where I bought it, and I didn't check around. I hope it will be enough for the 12900k in normal tasks, I won't do stress testing. I saw that in demanding games like Cyberpunk it can get quite hot, there is a video on YT already. I hate water coolers.
so, how's your system has been? i've gone with a Deepcool AK620 with my 12600k and damn, at stock clocks the thing is silent. but you dont buy a z690 mobo with a K cpu to run it at stock clocks, so at 5.0/4.0 all cores temps are around 85C, no thermal throttling. for 70 bucks the cooler is great
Pop out, then pop in...and just like that you have an awesome upgrade. This is why I prefer desktop PCs.
Coming from the 6600, I got the 12400 with Stock cooler and DDR4-3600
My 1050Ti went from ~75% usage in Fortnite and now its fully unleashed with the 12400
I literally went from i7 2600k to i5 12600k with the same motherboard, feels like reviving the moment lol.
What's the idle temp and consumption of the 12600K ? will I see an increase in my electric bill from my 9400F to a 12600K ??
Probably extra 3 bucks a month to be honest
i upgraded from i7-920 to haswell i7-4670k, to r7-7700. AM5 AMD socket is the most exciting
Does it have an Iris xe igpu inside it and can it game at 1080p and below?
It does have a 32 EU iGPU of the latest Xe-LP generation. It’s likely good enough for older games at 1080p low (like GTA V), but not for new titles.
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From 2600K to 12600K, adding a zero did improve things very nicely. Only for the naming of the new CPU I'd almost choose it.
IIRC, the WIFI version of that MSI motherboard supports Coreboot.
Спасибо за видео, хорошая подача, продолжай в том же духе!
So base clock of non-K intel CPUs are in range of 2 GHz and for K it's in 3 GHz range. While boost clock is almost same ,generally at a 100 mhz difference at around 5GHz. In benchmarks both K and non K CPUs perform very close.
What does the base clock signifies?
I mean what's the benifit/con of lower base clock? Why non K CPUs have much lower base clock than their K counterparts
I tried finding good answer on this but didn't found a perfect answer anywhere, see if you know.
I wanted a 12700 non K but base clock id low
The base clock is the all-core clock speed at which the CPU outputs the listed TDP (thermal design power). Non-K chips have a lower TDP (like 65W for the i7-12700) than K chips (like 150W for the i7-12700K) and therefore the base clock for non-K chips is lower. So in practice (using stock settings) the non-k chips will run at a lower all-core frequency when under load.
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@@FullyBuffered I've decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to i5 12400f with a b660 board that unlocks the i5 processor. Let's see when it arrives if I can get it up to 5 GHz. 204€ board 178€ prossesor and 138€ for 16GB DDR 5 total is 517€. Will be upgrading from an x5675 @ 4.5ghz so should see a difference with a 1070ti
that motherboard is solid. overbuilt motherboard for that price. good choice.
I was rocking a ryzen 5 3600 but it began having bsods at random, ive talked to rma and sent it to Florida but idk if they will aprove it, I was thinking in upgrading to the same chip that you have, but I still have my b550 tuf and the ryzen 5600 looks like a great option imo, eitherway I'll be waiting for the RMA
I'm watching this right now on the 2600k and the exact same MB P8Z68-V PRO that you just upgraded from. So I guess it is finally time to upgrade to. I really don't want to run windows 11 at this time. Is it possible and easy to disable the e-cores in the bios for compatibility with windows 10? I haven't found the answer to this since I can't find videos showing alder lake MB bios's. I might go for an i7-12700 to get 8 p-cores for premiere. If there is no easy way to disable the e-cores in the bios then I will have to buy an alder lake cpu without any e-cores. Thanks for your help and thanks for the video! This is finally a very exciting time that took intel way to long.
Is there an issue with Windows 10 not supporting different core types?
Got the I5 12600kf and same motherboard running at 5.158 ghz all core and 5.362 ghz turbo, e-cores at 4.148 ghz. I have seen it eat away 180 watts in some tests 😂
hello , i love your channel , i really enjoy watching your contents , i suggest you to change your power supply , its aged psu , you should consider to change it with new one :)
It is a quality unit which has been kept clean and not pushed hard, so I think it'll be fine.
Ik wil dat i7 platform wel van jou kopen hoor ;) en ironisch dat je van een 2600k naar een 12600k upgrade :p
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Thank you! :)
Thank you! :)
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I just find the ram a bit out of place, 3600 cl16 is just so close to 3200 cl16 price
I have SilentiumPC Fera 5 (single fan) cooler on i5-11400. With unlocked power in synthetic load (prime95) it can draw up to 144 W peak, 130 W average and even with 28 C room temperature and closed, poorly ventillated case temperature of CPU didn't even hit 90 C (60 C delta above ambient temperature).
Dual fan offers very little performance boost over single fan while increasing noise level (according to internet tests), so I picked the more silent(ium) option. Did I mention my fan curve is tweaked down? It's barely audible at full load while not thermal throttling in bad case/ambient scenario.
Meanwhile my friends are listening to their fancy, expensive AIO pumps.
I ordered the i5 12600kf paired with the Fera 5 ARGB, im excited to see how it is while gaming :) i only play games tho, no rendering etc
That's a huge FPS difference considering it's paired with a GTX 1080, maybe my 3770k is holding back my RX 6700XT even more than I thought.
Which pc case did u use for this built?
Fractal R5
Super video, hai. I try to build something similar: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4+CORE 5-12600K+Noctua NH-U12S chromax.Black+PATRIOT 16GB Viper Steel DDR4 4400MHz CL19 +ADATA 1TB XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 PCIe+MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB VENTUS XS OC + MSI MPG Series A850GF 80+Gold+SSD+HDD. It takes a while for, what you think🤔
interesting how long will take that middle video cards will cost $300 as in past. generation middle starts from x1.5 of consoles' performance 6700xt. previously 2-3 years from new consoles appearance was enough to come to this, those are passed but prices keep be crazy. other middle level hardware is also overpriced in 2-3 times. monopolism is bad
I'm upgrading 3770 non k to ryzen 7900x next week
Put a thermalright contact frame in that CPU!!!
Check my channel in 2 months or something, i already bought a frame!
Nice!
12600k is actually faster than 5950x in gaming if using better DDR4, something like a good kit of samsung B-die, and overclocked.
this
Wondering where the overclocking video remained
The video has been in the edit for a while - I wanted to get other videos (like the Ares CF) out first. I might end up sharing the results on Twitter as it’s a bit light on content for a full video
"My ussual test suite" he says after just explaining he is upgrading from a 2600k
gpu in both tests ?
GTX 1080
It's great value and a deal, but budget is different. The 12400 with a non overclocking mainboard (B660) is a good budget build because the single core performance is still very high. You can almost buy two of those for the price of 12600k+z690 :)
here in the ph
the ddr5 5200mhz is $290+
Air cooler price in my country is 100$, I wish i could find cheap cooler, also the brand of psus so bad and i can't buy online cuz i don't know how to build the pc by mesilf, so maybe i will end up with 12400
30% to 50% GPU utilization before... clearly 10 years is far too long between upgrades.
are you actually gaming at 1080p...if so, that's a bit uh, well ya no wonder you see a 50% increase in performance? That's not really helpful information in 2022. At the root of it, essentially the question everyone wants answered is/was, is it worth the cost of a cheap used car, to potentially gain yourself ten frames per second on 1440p or higher resolutions where the CPU is not the bottleneck
Well, he uses a card from 6 years ago, its not a 1440p gaming card, not for battlefield
AMD fanbous going insane right now. Intel has a high TDP but atleast it stays below that. My 3900x euns way above its advertised TDP
Too expensive for a "budget" upgrade.
Shouldve gotten 3200c14, at least then its b die and you can oc it to 4000+
way overpriced hw
You look like Vladimir Putin.