A couple of other inexpensive 92mm tower options are the Arctic i13x and the ID Cooling SE 914-XT, both of which are less than $30US including lga 1700 brackets. They will fit in most any tower case, while the 120mm and larger ones here usually require a gaming case. Beware that lga1700 backplates tend to be VERY thick, especially stacked on top of the already thick socket backplate on the motherboard, so if you don't have a tray cutout behind your CPU area, you may need to stick with the stock cooler. Something else to consider if you're using an inexpensive board with VRMs that get hot is that switching to a tower style cooler will make the VRMs much hotter. In that situation I recommend considering a downdraft option like the ID Cooling IS60 Evo.
Guilty as charged when it comes to aesthetic considerations. I just love AiOs (any AiO, really) for the fact that you can see so much more of the board. I had a no-frills Corsair H60 in my old Haswell-system and now I'm running the Lian Li Galahad 240 V2 on my new 12600K and it hasn't disappointed me yet. With a clumsy manual per-core overclock on the P-cores (to 5200 MHz, without any manual voltage adjustment), the CPU's power consumption shot up to 181 W and temps reached a little over 90°C. Stock was 61° to 67°C at just under 120 W. Since I wasn't sure how to set my voltages (they were way too high I guess with 1.311 to 1.327V across all cores), I then went to the auto OC option of my MSI Tomahawk (turbo offset) and set a +2 boost on both the P- and E-cores. Frequencies are now 5100 MHz on the P- and 3800 on the E-cores, with power draw at 136 to 138 W and much more reasonable voltages (1.266 to 1.291V). It still gave me a nice boost of around 15% in CPU benchmarks (only slightly less of an uplift than the manual OC to 5200) and temps on all cores range from 71 to 78°C, with the radiator fans never exceeding 60%. I could probably go even higher with this cooler, but the fans get pretty loud at max RPM, so I've settled for the +2/+2 auto-OC for now.
The 224XT yet again is a great cooler for the price. I've bought 2 of these now and they are just excellent for this level of cpu like 11600k, 5600x/12400/12600.
Made a budget build with a 3060 and a 12400f. Wanted to test the stock cooler, 60 to 70°C when gaming but its louder than a straight piped tractor. Then i got a 212 EVO V2 and cpu temps are amazing. Under heavy load 75°C max.
@@BuildPicker honestly I found your channel just a week ago and I'm surprised to see you under rated. You'll get recognition soon. But please improve your thumbnails. They look so simple. Try increasing contrast and Don't use borderd around text like in blue here. Also for that testing test one more scenario by adding the be quiet 135mm fan with 140mm noctua NH-d15S to make it D15. It'll give even better idea if noctua NH-d15 is worth it over D15S
@@adityadivine9750 "It'll give even better idea if noctua NH-d15 is worth it over D15S " We have both coolers here. They perform identically in every test I've ever run with them, that's why I didn't test both here. I'll test them both on the i7. Simple thumbnails work best IMO. I'm no designer, just doing my best!!
Exactly as I needed, a comparison with the intel stock cooler that came with the 12600... Thank you very much. I have a Dark Rock 4 laying around so I just gotto get my hands on a mounting bracket :)
@@BuildPicker I also ordered one, €6 with €6 shipping costs. Bit expensive for a piece of metal but it is what it is. Would've preferred being able to buy it in a shop.
Thanks for this review as most of my customers first choice is i5 10/11/12th Gen. In India Bequiet is not available, at least not at Kolkata market, here customer prefers Cooler Master H212 Normal, H212 ARGB, H212 Black Edition mostly. However recently few customers also asking for Cooler Master M612 - 6 Pipes + Nickel Plate. If possible, please include this in your test. Also, this is a second time request to you do explain in details regarding Asus BIOS settings few options which are not explained elaborately in their BIOS manual, specially Load Line Calibrations, Tweakers Paradise etc. critical settings which most of the cases are remain in default. Regards A.Mukherjee System Admin & Hardware Consultant Kolkata, INDIA
Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 is also a very good option. At ₹ 1300 is a cheaper alternative to CM hyper 212. I have already ordered one from MD Computers . Let's see how it handles core i5 12400 🤔
I have the ID Cooling 224 xt cpu cooler, did you have to ask ID cooling to send you out a LGA 1700 bracket as I don't think the cooler comes with the LGA 1700 bracket or did you manage to mount it with the bracket that it came with?
Err, They copied the Noctua mounting system so faithfully I was able to use the Noctua LGA1700 fitting kit back plate. I was going to make a video short about it actually! The Noctua brackets are about $8/£8 on Amazon.
Thanks, nice to see a review with some thorough measurements, but it would have helped a lot to have some real noise measurements. Noise depends on many other things than the fan speed, but thanks for the explanation, as I at least got some idea of which fans are the most quiet.
We'd love to do noise testing but it's just impossible with the equipment and environment we have available (listen carefully and you'll hear street noise in my videos!) I don't want to present data that's confusing or misleading. Gamers nexus have a very expensive testing system and soon we'll all be able to see their results!
I had a Core I3-12100 that, under any load, would not go above 71c running an Arctic 420. I bought an I5-12600 non-K thinking the two extra cores would be useful and at the same 3.30 GHZ it would be the at the same speed as the I3 without too much extra heat. The I5 runs 25c - 35c at idle but will easily get up to 90c - 100c quickly under heavy load. I don't know how to undervolt vut I have all the fan curves set for a little back pressure in the Fractal Design XL. Not sure what to do.
You can mount a "pure rock slim" ?? strange !! here in france on the bequiet site the pure rock slim/pure rock slim 2 are marked uncompatible and no kit available...
damn the noctua dos better than even a freaking liquid cooler :D but for 29$ i'm gonna probably go with ID Cooling. it's so cheap. (29 vs 89$ for noctua/dark rock) and it's more than cold enough i didn't know it comes with a cooler tho, the CPU. maybe i'll stick to that. I don't do long loads usually. most of the time i'm either gaming or doing CAD work or similar stuff which utilizes mostly 1-4 cores in a short burst
Hi, newbie question. Does the ID Cooling already come with the necessary tools to fit the LGA 1700 socket or did you have to buy extra? Thanks and awesome video!
You will need to confirm with the retailer. However, ID Cooling have 'borrowed' Noctuas design for the brackets to the point where you can use the Noctua LGA 1700 fitting kit (On amazon for $8) to fit this cooler. So there are ways to make it work! Just weigh up the cost vs a cooler that you know has the right brackets included. I would hope that ID Cooling are shipping with the correct brackets now, it's been 6 months.
I've considered it, but I don't think it's that worthwhile specifically for 12th gen. Really, performance depends more on fan/pump settings and radiator size than brand. I was considering doing a video 'All you need to know about AIOs' to cover the issues. Would that be useful?
Noctua NH-U12S 1500 Egyptian Pound Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black 1200 Egyptian Pound Cougar Forza 50 1200 Egyptian Pound ID Cooling 224 XT 850 Egyptian Pound Which one please should i stick with please ? also am limited with my money and i got 12600k with nzxt phantom 240 with z790-a asus
Hi. How a Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo will perform when paired with an i5 12600k (non oc). Can it handle long term all core boost with below 80c temps? Please answer. Thanks.
I think you'd be at the limit of that cooler. 80-90C sure, with good case airflow, but I'd want something a bit beefier ideally. Scythe mugen Rev B, Peerless Assassin 140, Dark rock 4... just a couple more heat pipes and a slightly bigger fan, ideally.
I have an i5 12600KF, cooled with a Noctua U12S Redux, sitting in a Corsair 110R with two Rosewill 140mm intake fans up front and the 120mm stock exhaust fan in the rear. I do not overclock my CPU. Using Furmark's CPU Burner utility (100% CPU usage across all cores), temps stay at or below 74C. I ran the test for about 15 mins or so. The 212 will likely not outperform the Noctua, but it won't do that much worse, either. It may top out near 80C at full load.
Do you think the dark rock 4 will be good for the 12600k? I wont overclock, can i expect similar result? I i do gaming, streaming and occasional editing
It's ok - just. It's basically on the edge in a full core workload. Consider the Deepcool AK620, or a Noctua NHD15S as well if you don't own the Dark Rock 4 already.
Hello, Pls answer to my question..... I am building a PC, chose ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI motherboard, Intel Core i5-12600K processor, RTX 2070 super GPU, planning to learn graphic design and playing Call Of duty Warzone. Which CPU cooler would you recommend in this build??? PLS PLS answer )))
I'd start with either a good quality Air tower cooler, like the Scythe Mugen Rev B or Thermaltake Peerless assassin (check you can get the brackets for these two!) or else the Noctua NH-D15S is a very quiet and capable cooler. Otherwise, look to a 240mm or larger AIO. The Arctic Liquid Freezer II is great value but they all perform about the same, and 240mm+ is plenty for the 150W max output of the 12600K.
For most normal computer functions, it's fine, but it will throttle if pushed to 100% for an extended period of time. Plus, it's louder than 120mm or even 92mm tower coolers. It's best to consider an inexpensive aftermarket cooler for this chip.
I'd go for the AK620, or a 240mm AIO. The AK400 is likely going to limit OC potential, even an i5 can kick out a fair amount of heat under OC conditions.
They're generally not recommended: They're only as good as a 120mm air tower cooler, but add in the noise and complexity of a water cooler - there's the small risk of leaks or pump failure to complicate things. We'd choose a 120mm Tower cooler instead, unless your case design prohibits it.
You can watch my video "does stock suck" which covers the issues! the TL;DR is I think it's worth spending $35 on a tower cooler to allow lower temperatures, and long term operation at full speed with unlocked power limits.
If you're running it with lifted power limits, I'd look at a top tier Air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15S, thermalright Peerless assassin (check LGA1700 brackets), Scythe Fuma 2, or a Dark rock Pro 4. You could also grab a 240mmAIO like the Arctic LF240 II which does the job great.
My recommendation would be the Arctic Freezer 34 E-Sports Duo. You can get it bundled with a socket 1700 kit for less than $50, and it will keep 12700 temps well below 80C at full load. It will slightly outperform a Fuma 2, and is significantly less expensive than an NH-D15S.
@@jaseem7 In sheer performance, the Fuma 2 is not better. It is quieter, though. If you think it will run hot on the E-Sports Duo, it will definitely run hotter on a Fuma 2. If you are that concerned about heat, you could try a DeepCool AK620. It gives you NH-D15 performance for about $60. The E-Sports Duo, used on a 12900K, runs hot, peaking in the mid 90's C. I'm sure it can keep a 12700 under control. If I were building a 12700 system for myself, I would likely target an E-Sports Duo. I might just do that, if prices get more enticing. Otherwise, I'm sticking with a 12600KF (cooled by a Noctua U12S Redux) on my main computer.
Liked and subscribed. Your channel is underrated!! The way you present information is very concise and to the point. Keep up the work :)
A couple of other inexpensive 92mm tower options are the Arctic i13x and the ID Cooling SE 914-XT, both of which are less than $30US including lga 1700 brackets. They will fit in most any tower case, while the 120mm and larger ones here usually require a gaming case. Beware that lga1700 backplates tend to be VERY thick, especially stacked on top of the already thick socket backplate on the motherboard, so if you don't have a tray cutout behind your CPU area, you may need to stick with the stock cooler.
Something else to consider if you're using an inexpensive board with VRMs that get hot is that switching to a tower style cooler will make the VRMs much hotter. In that situation I recommend considering a downdraft option like the ID Cooling IS60 Evo.
I have to agree, this channel is underrated! Information I have been looking for for days! Thanks!
Guilty as charged when it comes to aesthetic considerations. I just love AiOs (any AiO, really) for the fact that you can see so much more of the board. I had a no-frills Corsair H60 in my old Haswell-system and now I'm running the Lian Li Galahad 240 V2 on my new 12600K and it hasn't disappointed me yet. With a clumsy manual per-core overclock on the P-cores (to 5200 MHz, without any manual voltage adjustment), the CPU's power consumption shot up to 181 W and temps reached a little over 90°C. Stock was 61° to 67°C at just under 120 W.
Since I wasn't sure how to set my voltages (they were way too high I guess with 1.311 to 1.327V across all cores), I then went to the auto OC option of my MSI Tomahawk (turbo offset) and set a +2 boost on both the P- and E-cores. Frequencies are now 5100 MHz on the P- and 3800 on the E-cores, with power draw at 136 to 138 W and much more reasonable voltages (1.266 to 1.291V). It still gave me a nice boost of around 15% in CPU benchmarks (only slightly less of an uplift than the manual OC to 5200) and temps on all cores range from 71 to 78°C, with the radiator fans never exceeding 60%. I could probably go even higher with this cooler, but the fans get pretty loud at max RPM, so I've settled for the +2/+2 auto-OC for now.
The 224XT yet again is a great cooler for the price. I've bought 2 of these now and they are just excellent for this level of cpu like 11600k, 5600x/12400/12600.
Made a budget build with a 3060 and a 12400f. Wanted to test the stock cooler, 60 to 70°C when gaming but its louder than a straight piped tractor.
Then i got a 212 EVO V2 and cpu temps are amazing. Under heavy load 75°C max.
Subscribed from India.
Welcome aboard!
Same from india
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Thanks for the CPU cooler temperatures.
One of the only well organised cooling performance review on 12th gen but I wish you had used a more powerful cpu like 12700k or 12900k or non K
We've got a lot of testing to do on B660 Motherboards, once we're done with that we aim to test a range of coolers on the i7-12700K in this way!
@@BuildPicker honestly I found your channel just a week ago and I'm surprised to see you under rated. You'll get recognition soon.
But please improve your thumbnails. They look so simple. Try increasing contrast and Don't use borderd around text like in blue here.
Also for that testing test one more scenario by adding the be quiet 135mm fan with 140mm noctua NH-d15S to make it D15. It'll give even better idea if noctua NH-d15 is worth it over D15S
@@adityadivine9750 "It'll give even better idea if noctua NH-d15 is worth it over D15S
" We have both coolers here. They perform identically in every test I've ever run with them, that's why I didn't test both here. I'll test them both on the i7.
Simple thumbnails work best IMO. I'm no designer, just doing my best!!
@@BuildPicker yes they're not bad but not attractive enough
Exactly as I needed, a comparison with the intel stock cooler that came with the 12600... Thank you very much. I have a Dark Rock 4 laying around so I just gotto get my hands on a mounting bracket :)
I got one from BeQuiet!, it was about 12€ and took a couple of weeks to arrive, but not bad service overall!
@@BuildPicker I also ordered one, €6 with €6 shipping costs. Bit expensive for a piece of metal but it is what it is. Would've preferred being able to buy it in a shop.
You guys make amazing content with an outstanding professional presentation
Thank man. This is exactley the kind of review I was looking for!
Thanks for this review as most of my customers first choice is i5 10/11/12th Gen.
In India Bequiet is not available, at least not at Kolkata market, here customer prefers Cooler Master H212 Normal, H212 ARGB, H212 Black Edition mostly.
However recently few customers also asking for Cooler Master M612 - 6 Pipes + Nickel Plate.
If possible, please include this in your test.
Also, this is a second time request to you do explain in details regarding Asus BIOS settings few options which are not explained elaborately in their BIOS manual, specially Load Line Calibrations, Tweakers Paradise etc. critical settings which most of the cases are remain in default.
Regards
A.Mukherjee
System Admin & Hardware Consultant
Kolkata, INDIA
Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 V2 is also a very good option. At ₹ 1300 is a cheaper alternative to CM hyper 212. I have already ordered one from MD Computers . Let's see how it handles core i5 12400 🤔
@@Shadowat00 Fine, please give feedback after using for few days.
@@Shadowat00 is deepcool gammax V2 working good? Or should I go for another cooler for my i5 12400
Underrated channel! Hope you grow ... subbed :)
Very useful, thanks. Subbed!
I have the ID Cooling 224 xt cpu cooler, did you have to ask ID cooling to send you out a LGA 1700 bracket as I don't think the cooler comes with the LGA 1700 bracket or did you manage to mount it with the bracket that it came with?
Err, They copied the Noctua mounting system so faithfully I was able to use the Noctua LGA1700 fitting kit back plate. I was going to make a video short about it actually! The Noctua brackets are about $8/£8 on Amazon.
Great video thanks! I subscribed
The perfect build, extremely applicable to the audience
Thanks, nice to see a review with some thorough measurements, but it would have helped a lot to have some real noise measurements. Noise depends on many other things than the fan speed, but thanks for the explanation, as I at least got some idea of which fans are the most quiet.
We'd love to do noise testing but it's just impossible with the equipment and environment we have available (listen carefully and you'll hear street noise in my videos!) I don't want to present data that's confusing or misleading. Gamers nexus have a very expensive testing system and soon we'll all be able to see their results!
That 3.74k is going to be 3.74 Million very soon..
excellent review , subscribed!
I plan to use the U14S on it, so this was helpful. Thanks.
Will esports 34 duo be ok for 12600k, no oc, are you familiar with this cooler, thanks??ah you mentioned it nvm😅
Pro reviews! Thanks :)
I had a Core I3-12100 that, under any load, would not go above 71c running an Arctic 420. I bought an I5-12600 non-K thinking the two extra cores would be useful and at the same 3.30 GHZ it would be the at the same speed as the I3 without too much extra heat. The I5 runs 25c - 35c at idle but will easily get up to 90c - 100c quickly under heavy load. I don't know how to undervolt vut I have all the fan curves set for a little back pressure in the Fractal Design XL. Not sure what to do.
Nice and elaborate Thank you :)
Thanck you for your work .
What do you think about a Thermaltake toughair 310? it can handle 170w tdp,(i5 12600k)
You can mount a "pure rock slim" ?? strange !! here in france on the bequiet site the pure rock slim/pure rock slim 2 are marked uncompatible and no kit available...
thanks for valuable infos.
damn the noctua dos better than even a freaking liquid cooler :D
but for 29$ i'm gonna probably go with ID Cooling. it's so cheap. (29 vs 89$ for noctua/dark rock) and it's more than cold enough
i didn't know it comes with a cooler tho, the CPU. maybe i'll stick to that. I don't do long loads usually. most of the time i'm either gaming or doing CAD work or similar stuff which utilizes mostly 1-4 cores in a short burst
4 heat pipe cooler is all you need. There's a bunch of decent options. Make sure you get an lga 1700 fitting kit with whatever option you choose!
thank you for ur usefull information.
Hello ! Nice vid !
Do you think a BeQuiet DarkRock TF2 can cool a 12600K (no oc) ... because my case don't accept cooler highter than 148 mm ???
@PremiumBuilds Any info on where to buy the ID cooler in Europe; I have only found a Xilence rebrand for 50 Euros.
Hi, newbie question. Does the ID Cooling already come with the necessary tools to fit the LGA 1700 socket or did you have to buy extra? Thanks and awesome video!
You will need to confirm with the retailer. However, ID Cooling have 'borrowed' Noctuas design for the brackets to the point where you can use the Noctua LGA 1700 fitting kit (On amazon for $8) to fit this cooler. So there are ways to make it work! Just weigh up the cost vs a cooler that you know has the right brackets included. I would hope that ID Cooling are shipping with the correct brackets now, it's been 6 months.
Good test but i dont see who is the frequency of 12600
Will there be a Liquid AIO comparison video for 12th gens?
I've considered it, but I don't think it's that worthwhile specifically for 12th gen. Really, performance depends more on fan/pump settings and radiator size than brand. I was considering doing a video 'All you need to know about AIOs' to cover the issues. Would that be useful?
Noctua NH-U12S 1500 Egyptian Pound
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black 1200 Egyptian Pound
Cougar Forza 50 1200 Egyptian Pound
ID Cooling 224 XT 850 Egyptian Pound
Which one please should i stick with please ?
also am limited with my money and i got 12600k with nzxt phantom 240 with z790-a asus
its helpful, then i subs, salam dari indonesia
Hi. How a Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo will perform when paired with an i5 12600k (non oc). Can it handle long term all core boost with below 80c temps? Please answer. Thanks.
I think you'd be at the limit of that cooler. 80-90C sure, with good case airflow, but I'd want something a bit beefier ideally. Scythe mugen Rev B, Peerless Assassin 140, Dark rock 4... just a couple more heat pipes and a slightly bigger fan, ideally.
I have an i5 12600KF, cooled with a Noctua U12S Redux, sitting in a Corsair 110R with two Rosewill 140mm intake fans up front and the 120mm stock exhaust fan in the rear. I do not overclock my CPU. Using Furmark's CPU Burner utility (100% CPU usage across all cores), temps stay at or below 74C. I ran the test for about 15 mins or so.
The 212 will likely not outperform the Noctua, but it won't do that much worse, either. It may top out near 80C at full load.
thanks!
Did you face any issues regarding the difference in alder lake IHS height?
No, we used the correct brackets/mounting hardware wherever possible which compensated for this.
Do you think the dark rock 4 will be good for the 12600k? I wont overclock, can i expect similar result? I i do gaming, streaming and occasional editing
It's ok - just. It's basically on the edge in a full core workload. Consider the Deepcool AK620, or a Noctua NHD15S as well if you don't own the Dark Rock 4 already.
Hello, Pls answer to my question..... I am building a PC, chose ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI motherboard, Intel Core i5-12600K processor, RTX 2070 super GPU, planning to learn graphic design and playing Call Of duty Warzone. Which CPU cooler would you recommend in this build??? PLS PLS answer )))
I'd start with either a good quality Air tower cooler, like the Scythe Mugen Rev B or Thermaltake Peerless assassin (check you can get the brackets for these two!) or else the Noctua NH-D15S is a very quiet and capable cooler.
Otherwise, look to a 240mm or larger AIO. The Arctic Liquid Freezer II is great value but they all perform about the same, and 240mm+ is plenty for the 150W max output of the 12600K.
@@BuildPicker Thank you for the great advice, it's really helpful. Great channel !!!
I have i5 12400f, is the stock cooler enough? Its still on the way though, i buy it online yesterday
For most normal computer functions, it's fine, but it will throttle if pushed to 100% for an extended period of time. Plus, it's louder than 120mm or even 92mm tower coolers. It's best to consider an inexpensive aftermarket cooler for this chip.
@@neuideas it"s time to save some money then :)
Will a DeepCool AK400 be suitable for overclocking the i5-12600k to 5GHz? @BuildPicker
I'd go for the AK620, or a 240mm AIO. The AK400 is likely going to limit OC potential, even an i5 can kick out a fair amount of heat under OC conditions.
@@BuildPickerwill SE-226 XT or be quiet dark rock 4 be enough for OC?
What if i go for 120mm aio its cheaper but does it performs good as air cooler?
They're generally not recommended: They're only as good as a 120mm air tower cooler, but add in the noise and complexity of a water cooler - there's the small risk of leaks or pump failure to complicate things. We'd choose a 120mm Tower cooler instead, unless your case design prohibits it.
I m looking to go wid i5-12400 or 12600 non k, wud I still need another cooler or wud stock work fine?
U really need a cooler for the 12600, the 12400 could handle the stock cooler but id suggest getting an atleast 30 dollar cooler
You can watch my video "does stock suck" which covers the issues! the TL;DR is I think it's worth spending $35 on a tower cooler to allow lower temperatures, and long term operation at full speed with unlocked power limits.
Can you please suggest me a CPU cooler for i7 12700 (non K)? I will primarily be using the PC for productivity and rendering. Thanks.
If you're running it with lifted power limits, I'd look at a top tier Air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15S, thermalright Peerless assassin (check LGA1700 brackets), Scythe Fuma 2, or a Dark rock Pro 4. You could also grab a 240mmAIO like the Arctic LF240 II which does the job great.
My recommendation would be the Arctic Freezer 34 E-Sports Duo. You can get it bundled with a socket 1700 kit for less than $50, and it will keep 12700 temps well below 80C at full load. It will slightly outperform a Fuma 2, and is significantly less expensive than an NH-D15S.
@@neuideas I heard Fuma 2 is better. Also some reviewers suggested that eSports duo will do the job but will run the CPU hot.
@@jaseem7 In sheer performance, the Fuma 2 is not better. It is quieter, though. If you think it will run hot on the E-Sports Duo, it will definitely run hotter on a Fuma 2. If you are that concerned about heat, you could try a DeepCool AK620. It gives you NH-D15 performance for about $60.
The E-Sports Duo, used on a 12900K, runs hot, peaking in the mid 90's C. I'm sure it can keep a 12700 under control. If I were building a 12700 system for myself, I would likely target an E-Sports Duo. I might just do that, if prices get more enticing. Otherwise, I'm sticking with a 12600KF (cooled by a Noctua U12S Redux) on my main computer.
SPC Fortis 5
Noctua NH-U12S is all anyone needs.
I got that for my 3039
Id cooling wins xD 😂 25 USD