Clara CANNOT double the Sixth Doctor's ability. Clara says "It triggers an additional time," which the "this triggers only once each turn" trumps. Sixth is literally the only Doctor Clara cannot work with (I'm a bit shaky on whether it works with Fourth, since its a recursive trigger. If it does, two foods).
'this ability triggers only once each turn' only cares about the permanent it's stapled on, and not any extra permanents that share the same ability. "This" on a MtG card means "this specific game object," not "objects that have the same name as this."
@@jamesgasik3424 That's irrelevant? Clara doesn't gain the ability, she makes any triggered abilities of Doctors trigger again. "This ability only triggers once" hard stops that from happening.
Here's a fun little trick with the War Doctor: Attack with the TARDIS -> Cast a 1 drop -> watch your opponents desperately scramble for answers now that the War Doctor has 80+ Time Counters on it...
This doesn't work like that. He says "whenever one or more other cards are out into exile put a time counter..." meaning no matter how many cards are exiled, he only gets one counter per event. To work the way you want, he would have to say "whenever another card is put into exile from anywhere, put a time counter..." or "whenever one or more other cards are put into exile, put that many time counters..." Edit: I stand corrected. Have fun with your shenanigans. Lol
@@Taiyougetsu13 It does work: Because Cascade has to check each card, it exiles them one by one, as such, each card is a seperate trigger on the War Doctor.
@@Taiyougetsu13 (Matthias is right, Gavin Verhey, one of the creator behind the set, explains the trick in the Dr Who theme Shuffle up and play. It's quite broken and fun)
More fun: If that one drop is an instant or has flash you can play it before The War Doctor's attack trigger resolves and insta-kill one opponent. More, if you can copy the trigger.
11 exists to help Amy get Rory as fast as possible. 11 also makes War Doctor unblockable so he can do his job of triggering time damage. While none of that is super strong, its amazingly flavorful.
@@attackoncardboard 12 has the most flavorful win con I've found in that you foretell Alrunds epiphany, imprint any instant with "return target spell to its owners hand" on isochron scepter. Then you demonstrate Alrunds, the first extra turn to get queued is the opponent's then your copy so you take a turn before them. Before it all resolves you put original back with isochron and just keep doing that while you have Heaven Sent out to just ping for 1 over and over. You may say that's a hell of long combo. Personally, I say that's a hell of a 1/1 bird token. Though I can't think of an exact epsidoe it calls to, suspending or flashbacking final fortune then ending the turn after your opponents copy resolves and yours are on the stack with something like Glorious End seems like a very 12 move.
@grandobsidian U can also use a white companion with the twelfth doctor so you get access to Lavinia azorius renegade to make sure your opponents don't get a copy of your spells
the river song + 12th doctor is strong with the Towers of Darylium breaking the game imo if this works like VS system in end game : having one more turn for characters to attack... fitting Diary of River song is the one of the episode where she met capaldi :P b4 they go tothe singing towers
I think The War Doctor is a bit underrated here. It's really easy to get him to 10+ time counters and there are some mechanics which, with proper deckbuilding, can frequently add 20+ counters in one go, taking him legitimately into one-shot territory.
At the time of recording, I misunderstood the interaction between the War Doctor and Cascade. This is one Doctor that is probably on the line between A and S tier. Will need to do some more testing with them.
@@attackoncardboard The Professor posted a Shuffle and Play video with the dude who made this set, and he (the dude) plays with the War Doctor and he is pretty broken! Looks fun!
@@attackoncardboard There is also alot of cards in red that can exile cards in red to play from Baldurs gate that link fully with the exiling, There is Commander Liara Portyr that is a good example of it. Exiling cards for profit is a really good one tbh. There is also a background that exiles something for free each turn at upkeep
See, the real thing to do with Clara is to get The Master, Multiplied out, equip Clara with Psychic Paper and Myriad, and have her double up her own triggers. Because remember: the Doctor _told_ her to "Never be cruel, and never be cowardly, and if you are, always make amends. Never eat pears: they're too squishy and they always make your chin wet. That one is quite important, write it down." Or in other words, he told her _to be_ the Doctor. So it only makes sense that you use the Psychic Papers to make her a Human Advisor Doctor, and then make a bajillion copies of her.
Have the War docs companion be Clara calling Blue. Now we can be a bit goofy by adding phasing cards while also taking advantage of the fact both of the War Doctors abilities are triggered
Tolarian Community College has a recent video that features The War Doctor being paired with Ryan Sinclair to great effect. The War Doctor actually got to lethal by having over 40 time counters accumulated. It was nuts.
this is : the goal is to get 13 or more doctors, with Gallifrey Stands, you win the game, so the 9th Doctor making it so the turn before you cannot lose the game and your OP cannot win the game, you get to it ... doctor who decks must be based on getting as many doctors into action . "This is where i come in!"- 11th Doctor
The First Doctor is great for Planechase games, searching up the TARDIS to planeswalk with; especially alongside Susan, since she lets you scry 2 the planar deck before planeswalking. The Fourth Doctor I think of as card advantage, since he's letting you play the top card of your library. Even better with flash enablers, which are plentiful in U as you point out in the Sixth Doctor section. Also remember, he lets you play artifact lands, legendary lands, and Urza's Saga off the top as well. The Fifth Doctor is also great for Vehicle based decks, since he'll untap all your creatures that crewed that turn (if they didn't enter that turn) so they can crew again on an opponent's turn for better blockers (if you have other untapped vehicles, since the Fifth won't untap vehicles you attacked with) The Eighth Doctor is similar to the Fourth in giving card advantage, but the Eighth is letting you re-use cards you already used once. Besides, he's not mutually exclusive with the Sixth; you can have both in the same deck with the right companions, and then you can play a historic spell and copy it, then when it dies later recast it and copy it again. The War Doctor is crazy, mostly due to a quirk in the rules: his first ability will trigger _per card_ if you have an "exile until X card is revealed" effect. For example, pairing him with Ryan (yes, a Doctor-Companion pair that doesn't add a third color) will add a ton of counters every time Ryan attacks; and if they both attack, you can stack the on attack triggers so Ryan's resolves first to pump War, then War's on attack resolves to deal big damage. Any other "exile until X" effect works too: cascade, Guff Rewrites History, Indomitable Creativity, Plargg and Nassari, Possibility Storm, etc.
Things that eleventh has going for it vs tenth. Partnering with Amy pond the only companion that assists in getting suspended cards on the board gives the deck a 3rd color. 2 CMC cheaper. Trigger is on combat damage, not attack, so double strike gives 2 triggers. Comes with his own evasion for him AND Amy pond. Deck loves true conviction and flaming fist. You wouldn't build the deck for big boys but rather as a saboteur.
I think being able to cheat out free spells quite nice, pair that with some stax peices like you noted, and you have a nice advantage engine. However this build may be a bit too cedh style for a casual group, and you mentioned that you were ranking with casual in mind.
@@benadams2565 Remembering though your Stax pieces like Thalia, will make your free spells cost 1 more etc. And any spell that has 0 or no mana cast will permanently stay in exile if you suspend them with Dr 11. As you only get to cast them when you "remove" the last time counter from them.
What I gather is that Clara is the best companion because she breaks the best Doctors even further. Works for me because she was my favourite in the show.
I think you've underrated the fourth doctor. In the right deck, his ability can net you an extra card each turn and if you can give spells you control flash (something relatively easy to do in GU and W/R) he can net you multiple cards per turn cycle. Not the best doctor, but I would put him above the First Doctor.
I have a really interesting idea… Clara & Doctor plus Backgrounds. You get the classic benefit of having two commanders for the background to affect, and Clara will double up the Doctor’s triggers, making three total. Wondering which I could pick for this. Blue and Red have the most applicable backgrounds. Maybe War Doctor? Passionate Archaeologist, Tavern Brawler, Dragon Cultist, Sword Coast Sailor… there’s a pretty big list.
I've found an interesting one using another pair! I'm building The First Doctor & Bill Potts (W/U/R) as a Multi-Doctor/Cascade deck and the background "Passionate Archeologist" gives commander creatures the ability to deal damage every time you cast from exile (every time you cascade). Yasmin Khan is also a good companion for that.
I think the part you thought maybe missing about 11th is that 10th doctor gets something random meanwhile you can get a card in your hand suspended with 11th both him and amy are lowish mana so suspending a maybe 10 mana card would be amazing and 11 will give amy unblockable so maybe in 2 turns you get a 11 mana spell which you planned and even if your commanders are removed the suspend is still on.
Not wrong, but that's still fairly fragile - Amy is very vulnerable to removal or just getting tapped over and over, plus it relies on you having something good in your hand without any inherent draw or tutor ability to ensure you do. It's as random as the 10th, but considerably less reliable.
Something either funny or horrible you can do with the 12th Doctor, if you play a card with a massive downside, like Glorious End for example, you can force them to copy it and let it end them. In the Glorious End example, their copy would go off exiling yours on the stack so you don't get the downside, but they sure do. You could also make a non red player cast Pact of the Titan and, unless they have treasures, lose that way as well.
@MasterQuestMaster no they aren't put into exile at the same time because after each card, you check to see if it meets the cascade conditions. If yes, cascade ends. If not, next card. Repeat until conditions are met.
One thing that must be worth mentioning with the War doctor; if you have a card that says "Exile cards from the top of your library until you find a legendary creature" (for example) then you will get a time counter for every non-legendary creature revealed this way. And there just so happens to be a saga perfect for the War doctor's ability. He can easily do 40 damage with his own effect if left alone too long.
Yup, learnt that after the fact, I was under the impression it would just be a single counter. Knowing what I know now, I would push the War Doctor to top of A tier or bottom of S.
War Doctor can kill at least one opponent really fast with a lucky cascade or Dark Apostle giving cascade to a 1 mana spell. Him and Tegan beating down with the double aid of things like Bastion Protector, Bloodsword Steward, Tavern Brawler, and Guild Artisan is very respectable aggro too.
The TARDIS also gives cascade to your next spell cast this turn, so if you play a 1 mana spell like Sol Ring then War Doctor is rising in power exponentially, lol
11th doctor I can agree you're groups nice casual, not pure evil casual. Get red partner -Armageddon -Upheaval -Apocalypse -World Slayer -World Fire -Obliterate -Decree of Annihalation -Sunder -Worldpurge It's Jeskai with the option to do this trick and not wipe it's side of the board with white's (everything on my side phases/indestructible and not there.) Alright I've reset the board and on my turn or the next turn I get... Omniscience, and 9 other 8/8's T5 Amypond, get the boros land that gives +2/0 to a creature for 2. Give her reavercleaver aaaaand make her unblockable and what ever card you put out from the 11th is now instantly on the field. Also can use Hexplate, helm of the host, flaming fist,Jeskai Ascendenacy, Duelist Heritage,Kursami-gama,Jitte,etc and you can instant free remove suspend 10 Rogue Doctor Flashback and Entwine for 6 tooth and nail, search and play your I win combo? The fourth doctor is cheaper and is card advantage every turn where usually getting +1 of a card once isn't that strong. Also when you give all your cards flash, once each turn becomes WAY WAY STRONGER.
Looking at a budget upgrade for the Timey-Wimey deck, thinking about running The Ninth Doctor in the command zone and adding Paradox Haze and Court of Vantress in the deck to stack up as many upkeep steps as possible to spam "on upkeep" triggers and cheap out suspend cards quickly. The deck already comes with a lot of card advantage and I can add Lost Auramancers as a cheap tutor if I keep Rose in as the companion. Feels like it has potential.
I wonder if the 11th has some potential building around the second ability, making small creatures unblockable. some low to the ground, 3 color deck with creatures that do stuff when they deal damage to a player, where the suspend is just a bonus on top?
I just switched the commanders in the Blast from the Past deck to the 8th Doctor and Jamie McCrimmon. Mill a few cards, and when you have Jamie, play historics from the graveyard and pump him up. Seemed like a smart plan
Playing the precon, I'd much sooner play Eleven & Amy over Ten & Rose, because Rose is so bland. After upgrading it would be different, because Clara just outshines so many other companions.
People are underestimating Eleven's second ability. Again, I'm not saying he's an S tier, but it is an enabler for a lot of lower-powered attacking/dealing damage matters creatures. That's what you'd build around. The suspend (in his case) is just built-in card advantage if you have nothing to help with the second ability.
I really love the insane amount of new commanders in all the decks what with the companions themselves and the side characters that also happen to be legendary, also the companions that pair with their partners in the show is such a flavor win. Also also, Rip to Cool Mickey not making the cut.
Another point towards the Third Doctor is that being in Blue and Green means they love Blinks/Flickers and ETB effects. Thassa, Deep Dwelling is always a Blue card that comes to mind when thinking of things that like ETBs
The War Doctor is made to work with Yasmin Khan! Fitting as she is the most apt to help a Wartime Doctor, even though she loves her fam friendly 13th doctor with an obvious passion. The decks I'll build based on affinities might have River Song and the Ponsd (Amy * Rory) added in. And it was one of the salvations of the Jodie era. Yaz has great merits in taking some great moments away from the impoerfections of what Whitaker did in the role.
Neat trick with 12th: Pacts. Run all of the free pacts that make you lose the game if you don't pay the mana during your next upkeep. Demonstrate how you kill everyone with their own triggers.
Playing the fourth doctor with the sixth doctor as the commander pretty much gives not only all of your historic off the top flash but makes sure they get a copy
Pippin's Bravery = you may sacrifice a food, +4+4 to target creature til eot ! ain't that wonderful ? Or do the 4th doctor creating food token does not equal "food" ?
in UDE Versus System (OG) there was Base of Operation , Clocktower... to help check the top card and rotate.Nightvision allowed to always see your top card like the 4th Doctor.
11th is my favourite, so im committed to building him, I have an esper list right now with the Angels, and Clara as my companion, am very hyped to play it!
Built a War Doctor and Clara combo the other day. I choose black for Clara to grt access to some black cards, but I might switch her to Green for ramp. Either way, dohble triggers on War was great and ended up slapping an opponent for 72 damage.
I'm building a Ninth + Clara (G) paradox haze deck. Can't decide if I want to do a Thallid: "Fungis from Outer Space", Suspend shenanigans with Jhoira, Alaundo and Tenth, or go straight Purphoros + Tokens. So many fun combos and ideas.
you're overthinking the 11th doctor, you just weenie your way to victory and make everything unblockable. So all those hate-bears? make em unblockable and turn cards sideways, that's it. Being able to make any weenies unblockable for only 2 mana is way way better than you think it is. Compare it to "Access tunnel" which has the same exact ability (target creature w power 3 or less can't be blocked) with a cost of 3+the land (4 lands total) or Rogues passage for 5 total tapped lands and you can see how strong that ability can be for only 2 mana. Plus the natural card draw white/blue has (things like Bident of Thassa and other "draw when you hit" cards) with the ability to suspend cards, and it even recovers really quickly from boardwipes. They wipe the board, but you have 2 or 3 cards on suspend that just get put out into play for free post-wipe and it doesn't even set you back. Played against a friend who put out a "Mischievous Catgeist" on turn 2 (draw card when it hits), and I didn't have an answer for it, so he drew a card, then he made it unblockable for like 4 turns in a row and kept drawing cards and suspending cards, he always had a full grip and a dangerous wide board. Even after I wiped the board, he put the catgeist disturb aura onto something else and kept swinging in unblocked and kept drawing cards, I really didn't have any answers to that kind of unrelenting unblockable wide board.
weird design decision for the 13th Doctor : her "lover" (more than platonic by both actresses and chibnall) do not share her color... BUT what if Yasmin was RED to combine as a trio of colors for the 13th & her ?? Ryan Sinclkair, Dan and Graham confirm the scheme maybe ? As well as the Fugitive Doctor?
What about comboing the Second Doctor with Vislor Turlough for an Esper deck that punishes the opponent with the cards you give them with black cards like Orcish Bowmaster and blue and white cards that have you both draw, like wedding ring and plenty of counters to stop your opponent from playing the cards you give them.
Something not mentioned about the war doctor. Any card that exiles from the top until it hits something just wracks up his tokens. Things like cascade exile 1 at a time, each giving him a token. Its nuts.
I'm building "The First Doctor & Bill Potts" as a Doctor/Cascade deck with three different Wishes in order to get the instant "Research/Development" from outside of the game to cast the Research side and shuffle 4 of the green Doctors (or maybe 3 of them and "Bigger on the Inside") into my deck to cascade into. Bill Potts is there so I can single-target her with instant speed protection stuff so I can protect my TARDIS or Commander or something.
@@attackoncardboard Yep! My playgroup has long squared away with each other that we can cast from "outside the game" under two conditions: we have a sideboard with cards ready, or if we are recasting something from exile that was already in the game.
Sorry, functioning on little to no sleep. So for cards like Final Fortune, your opponents copy would resolve first, and yours will resolve last, meaning you get the next turn and then lose at the end of that turn. The other card I could have mentioned was Glorious End, when you demonstrate that, your opponent's copy resolves first, exiling your copies on the stack.
I kinda like the Fugitive Doctor as a kind of of Fallback for the usual Gruul gameplan. Do the normal ramp thing with Gruul in the 99 and as long as you can get SOME clues onto the field (either through going Naya with Sarah Jane smith or splashing blue with another companion), then the Fugitive Doctor can keep the deck from running out of steam.
After MKM spoilers finish, I'll definitely be going back to all the Clue Dr Who cards I dismissed, just to see if they've gotten any better. Here's hoping 🤞
With 12th, cast glorius end from outside gand, make them copy it, their copy removes yours from the stack and they loose unless they can kill you on your turn
10 and War are the main ones I want to build around Will have to get them separately, I do like keeping my UB decks intact though, the Warhammer ones especially were great against each other
Yeah those and 12 for me are top of my list. I'll be posting the PreCon reviews this week going over all the top cards and some minor upgrades. Once those are out I'll be doing rebuild videos :)
@@attackoncardboardCipher creates a copy of the encoded card in exile, then allows you to cast the copy from exile. This is seen as casting a spell by the game and the appropriate triggers will trigger. This wording can be found on other cards, such as Isochron scepter. An example can be found in the rulings of Ral, Storm Conduit
I like the Third doctor the best I think. but the Tenth doctor as a potential Eldrazi tribal commander sounds fun. I think I like the third and the tenth the best of all of these.
damn... Just starting to learn all the keywords... Got 2 booster packs gifted to me at christmas, and buying singles off ebay since I ain't paying personally for a single booster at 45$ Canadian. i am 100% new to MAgic the Gathering. I am a whovian, and a player of Versus system, original version from 2005-06, UDE Marvel vs DC... I will return with ideas and see if people think it's not that bad for a man who never played a single MTG game.
If you're looking to learn MTG and no one in your friend group plays, try out MTG Arena. It has one of the best introductions/tutorials to the game you could ask for :)
i'll see the game too, looks like heartstone ... which came first? I played hs year of release but never saw mtg arena before yesterday @@attackoncardboard
10th and 12th are my personal favorites. I love exile shenanigans and with the 10th doctor giving me a fun way to play more with suspend, I’m going to cause such chaos. The 12th is also great because my favorite card of all time is creative technique! The chaos I’ve caused with that card alone is much and fun, even the one time it lost me the game giving cat tribal there beast master ascension once.
I absolutely adored the 13th Doctor. When I heard that they were going to have a female doctor I was a little hesitant saying here's the affirmative action but I kept an open mind and I'm glad I did because she played the doctor so fantastically. She is in my top three favorite doctors. Which is why I'm so fucking annoyed that her art looks so dumb
I'd argue 4 is a lot better given it is in great colors for tokens, historic cards are a dime a dozen, and you can play cards at flash speed. For the Fugitive Doctor you should also just pair them with a blue companion as all of them help out far more than white does.
13:17 ANY creature you have unde 3 power gets un-blockable for 2 before attacking and equipping it with lets see sword of light and shadow, cardinal plating? 3 power for ti in blue white? and can suspend for free. I think is good. As for his suspend waht alike card comes into mind hmmm Aether Vial :D
11th is meant to pair with 10th so that is the main reason he is lackluater by himself. (It's also a small reference to the show with the 2 teaming up with the War Doctor)
Hell yeah, I'm glad Twelth is so good, he was definitely the most fun and interesting commander option in Dr. Who for me imo. I was thinking it would work really well with Clara Oswald choosing Black as the color?
Don't forget, Clara doesn't trigger Demonstrate twice, as that's something that is "attached" to the card you're casting, not the Doctor themselves. Clara will only triggers Dr 12's second ability an additional time.
Soooo, 12th doctor + Black companion, cast phage the untouchable from anywhere other than your hand against the final opponent and choose to copy it, and proceed to laugh when the copy you gave them resolves first.
I'd put the Seventh doctor in S tier mostly because they can cheat things into play and you can double the triggers fairly easy. I love the idea of Azorius, upholders of law, truth, justice cheating cards into play with a simple guessing game, Oh look I cast an Eldrazi for free, Cascade for free, Suspend cards without CMC are free... I wouldn't put this Doctor so highly but having a 3/6 body keeps them around and the Cast trigger on his ability is everything, if it was a simple Play trigger they could put lands into play but never get the Cast effects on certain cards. The Seventh doctor is, to me, S tier due to these awesome options for building :P
I'm only on the First Doctor so far, isnt the whole point of the TARDIS to make your spells Cascade by attacking so you can stack +1/+1 counters? You dont necessarily need other Cascade cards if you have that to combo. Albeit still weak if the TARDIS get nixxed somehow but slightly better than was explained
Im going 10th and clara but i can't 100% decide what color i want to add i want to do black for the time lord victorious flavor but i feel like green is just the better option
Perhaps you can do something infect related with the eleventh doctor, as many creatures in white and blue can have those effects as well as using a companion to add black to her some more infect creatures
Really sleeping on the synergy between Ryan and the First Doctor. That deck is A if not S tier quality. the rest of the First doctor builds are rather weak, but those two are very strong and gets tons of free spells.
Really think you missed the potential the 4th doctor has in terms of deck manipulation, Token and artifact synergies, and how it only gets better with companions such as Sara Jane Smith. Def a B tier card at least.
Lorewise isn't the Valeyard also a regeneration of the Doctor? Why didn't they make him black/red (I would have said black/blue, but blue mana seems reserved only for the properly numbered doctors which is a nice flavor win I wouldn't want them to ruin) with the Doctor trait?
At 15:11 I could he wrong but I don't think those spellls count as being cast. They're copies but unless the text says "cast the copy" they're just counted as played instead
Dr 12 simply says "Whenever you copy a spell", a spell is something that is on the stack. And the reminder text of each of those mechanics says "When you cast this spell, copy it". *Edit - Or if you're talking about the cards I mention after the Keyword Ability cards, they effectively do the same thing.
Play the War Doctor with K-9 as companion. Add Flamekin Herald and punch people for 80+ damage easy when your robo dog reveals your whole deck on cascade.
@@davidhower7095 It'll count each card as a separate instance as cascade has to stop to check whether the card counts for the cascade effect or to keep going. It works the same way for cards like Leila, the Blade Reforged.
@@attackoncardboard There's a lot of cascade, impulse, etc played in my friend group (looking at you Prosper and First Sliver) so I'm excited to build the War Doctor and punish my greedy friends. 😈
I haven't played magic in a while, and this piqued my interest. For the 12th Doctor, would its ability trigger from suspended spells? Are they cast from exile, and not the hand?
I feel the comparison between the Sixth and Eighth Doctor is unfair. The Sixth Doctor is about Explosiveness, running away with the game if unanswered. The Eighth Doctor is about Resilience, the ability to recover. Something gets answered? Do they have TWO answers? It's a good Toolbox as well with Self-mill. Definitely feels like it should at *least* be a B, instead of a C. And of course, people have already mentioned it, but The War Doctor can get out of hand real fast, and with the right build, would probably be S tier.
The 11th is definitely not as good as 10, but he’s still better than most doctors he just has an easy replacement that the others don’t have. EXCEPT for the unblockable part, putting mirran swords on 1/1s adds a lot of unique value.
Am i right in thinking The Twelfth Doctor would also trigger off of any copied spells that get cast if they're the first? A copied spell technically isn't being cast from your hand.
Clara CANNOT double the Sixth Doctor's ability. Clara says "It triggers an additional time," which the "this triggers only once each turn" trumps. Sixth is literally the only Doctor Clara cannot work with (I'm a bit shaky on whether it works with Fourth, since its a recursive trigger. If it does, two foods).
'this ability triggers only once each turn' only cares about the permanent it's stapled on, and not any extra permanents that share the same ability.
"This" on a MtG card means "this specific game object," not "objects that have the same name as this."
@@jamesgasik3424 That's irrelevant? Clara doesn't gain the ability, she makes any triggered abilities of Doctors trigger again. "This ability only triggers once" hard stops that from happening.
@@melles1097Mea culpa, you're correct.
Yup. I made a mistake on that one 😅
@@attackoncardboard For some reason I was thinking about copying the triggered ability instead of doubling the trigger.
Here's a fun little trick with the War Doctor: Attack with the TARDIS -> Cast a 1 drop -> watch your opponents desperately scramble for answers now that the War Doctor has 80+ Time Counters on it...
This doesn't work like that. He says "whenever one or more other cards are out into exile put a time counter..." meaning no matter how many cards are exiled, he only gets one counter per event. To work the way you want, he would have to say "whenever another card is put into exile from anywhere, put a time counter..." or "whenever one or more other cards are put into exile, put that many time counters..."
Edit: I stand corrected. Have fun with your shenanigans. Lol
@@Taiyougetsu13 It does work: Because Cascade has to check each card, it exiles them one by one, as such, each card is a seperate trigger on the War Doctor.
@@Taiyougetsu13 (Matthias is right, Gavin Verhey, one of the creator behind the set, explains the trick in the Dr Who theme Shuffle up and play. It's quite broken and fun)
More fun: If that one drop is an instant or has flash you can play it before The War Doctor's attack trigger resolves and insta-kill one opponent. More, if you can copy the trigger.
War Doctor woke up in the TARDIS and chose VIOLENCE! No wonder the cosmo was afraid of the doctor.
11 exists to help Amy get Rory as fast as possible. 11 also makes War Doctor unblockable so he can do his job of triggering time damage. While none of that is super strong, its amazingly flavorful.
I'll give you one thing, the flavour in this set is fantastic. So much thought has gone into the design of these cards.
@@attackoncardboard 12 has the most flavorful win con I've found in that you foretell Alrunds epiphany, imprint any instant with "return target spell to its owners hand" on isochron scepter. Then you demonstrate Alrunds, the first extra turn to get queued is the opponent's then your copy so you take a turn before them. Before it all resolves you put original back with isochron and just keep doing that while you have Heaven Sent out to just ping for 1 over and over. You may say that's a hell of long combo. Personally, I say that's a hell of a 1/1 bird token.
Though I can't think of an exact epsidoe it calls to, suspending or flashbacking final fortune then ending the turn after your opponents copy resolves and yours are on the stack with something like Glorious End seems like a very 12 move.
@@grandobsidianheaven sent, what an episode that was, blew my mind
@grandobsidian U can also use a white companion with the twelfth doctor so you get access to Lavinia azorius renegade to make sure your opponents don't get a copy of your spells
the river song + 12th doctor is strong with the Towers of Darylium breaking the game imo if this works like VS system in end game : having one more turn for characters to attack... fitting
Diary of River song is the one of the episode where she met capaldi :P b4 they go tothe singing towers
No matter on this ranking, I really want to build The First Doctor, with Clara as his companion. I can make the TARDIS so huge!
I think The War Doctor is a bit underrated here. It's really easy to get him to 10+ time counters and there are some mechanics which, with proper deckbuilding, can frequently add 20+ counters in one go, taking him legitimately into one-shot territory.
At the time of recording, I misunderstood the interaction between the War Doctor and Cascade. This is one Doctor that is probably on the line between A and S tier. Will need to do some more testing with them.
I'm looking at the war doctor for my Nahiri Forged in Fury deck
@@attackoncardboard The Professor posted a Shuffle and Play video with the dude who made this set, and he (the dude) plays with the War Doctor and he is pretty broken! Looks fun!
@@attackoncardboard There is also alot of cards in red that can exile cards in red to play from Baldurs gate that link fully with the exiling, There is Commander Liara Portyr that is a good example of it. Exiling cards for profit is a really good one tbh. There is also a background that exiles something for free each turn at upkeep
@@ernestogcostayeah I built it with 85 lands lol. So far bigest hit is 10 but only played 1 game lol
The war doctor is honestly stupidly strong if you make its companion card black with clara oswald
They did Tom Baker dirty (He is the fourth) he was actually some of Doctor Who fans all time favourite doctor.
Fun fact, The Twelfth Doctor's first ability doesn't work with Clara, since the demonstrate trigger is coming from the spell, not the Doctor.
Correct. Which is unfortunate lore wise. Sure you get the additional counter but there are better to play.
Fun fact 🤓
Unfun fact :(
See, the real thing to do with Clara is to get The Master, Multiplied out, equip Clara with Psychic Paper and Myriad, and have her double up her own triggers. Because remember: the Doctor _told_ her to "Never be cruel, and never be cowardly, and if you are, always make amends. Never eat pears: they're too squishy and they always make your chin wet. That one is quite important, write it down." Or in other words, he told her _to be_ the Doctor. So it only makes sense that you use the Psychic Papers to make her a Human Advisor Doctor, and then make a bajillion copies of her.
Have the War docs companion be Clara calling Blue. Now we can be a bit goofy by adding phasing cards while also taking advantage of the fact both of the War Doctors abilities are triggered
I love this combo and plan on building this specifically ❤️
Tolarian Community College has a recent video that features The War Doctor being paired with Ryan Sinclair to great effect. The War Doctor actually got to lethal by having over 40 time counters accumulated. It was nuts.
@@justinbrush126 O.o hunting that video down! Thank you!
this is : the goal is to get 13 or more doctors, with Gallifrey Stands, you win the game,
so the 9th Doctor making it so the turn before you cannot lose the game and your OP cannot win the game, you get to it ... doctor who decks must be based on getting as many doctors into action . "This is where i come in!"- 11th Doctor
The First Doctor is great for Planechase games, searching up the TARDIS to planeswalk with; especially alongside Susan, since she lets you scry 2 the planar deck before planeswalking.
The Fourth Doctor I think of as card advantage, since he's letting you play the top card of your library. Even better with flash enablers, which are plentiful in U as you point out in the Sixth Doctor section. Also remember, he lets you play artifact lands, legendary lands, and Urza's Saga off the top as well.
The Fifth Doctor is also great for Vehicle based decks, since he'll untap all your creatures that crewed that turn (if they didn't enter that turn) so they can crew again on an opponent's turn for better blockers (if you have other untapped vehicles, since the Fifth won't untap vehicles you attacked with)
The Eighth Doctor is similar to the Fourth in giving card advantage, but the Eighth is letting you re-use cards you already used once. Besides, he's not mutually exclusive with the Sixth; you can have both in the same deck with the right companions, and then you can play a historic spell and copy it, then when it dies later recast it and copy it again.
The War Doctor is crazy, mostly due to a quirk in the rules: his first ability will trigger _per card_ if you have an "exile until X card is revealed" effect. For example, pairing him with Ryan (yes, a Doctor-Companion pair that doesn't add a third color) will add a ton of counters every time Ryan attacks; and if they both attack, you can stack the on attack triggers so Ryan's resolves first to pump War, then War's on attack resolves to deal big damage. Any other "exile until X" effect works too: cascade, Guff Rewrites History, Indomitable Creativity, Plargg and Nassari, Possibility Storm, etc.
They did 11 so bad! Otherwise, I love how interesting and unique while still being playable or strong a lot of the doctors are. So hype.
11 is actually pretty great in my opinion. A slightly worse Jhoira, but with a Partner mechanic to compensate
I'm happy to be wrong about 11, just waiting for someone to change my mind 😂
Things that eleventh has going for it vs tenth. Partnering with Amy pond the only companion that assists in getting suspended cards on the board gives the deck a 3rd color. 2 CMC cheaper. Trigger is on combat damage, not attack, so double strike gives 2 triggers. Comes with his own evasion for him AND Amy pond.
Deck loves true conviction and flaming fist. You wouldn't build the deck for big boys but rather as a saboteur.
I think being able to cheat out free spells quite nice, pair that with some stax peices like you noted, and you have a nice advantage engine. However this build may be a bit too cedh style for a casual group, and you mentioned that you were ranking with casual in mind.
@@benadams2565 Remembering though your Stax pieces like Thalia, will make your free spells cost 1 more etc. And any spell that has 0 or no mana cast will permanently stay in exile if you suspend them with Dr 11. As you only get to cast them when you "remove" the last time counter from them.
What I gather is that Clara is the best companion because she breaks the best Doctors even further. Works for me because she was my favourite in the show.
So turns out Clara doesn't work with the 6th like I thought 😅
100% my fave companion too
The tenth doctor has a 1 card infinite combo with Rousing Refrain. It's pretty nuts.
I think you've underrated the fourth doctor. In the right deck, his ability can net you an extra card each turn and if you can give spells you control flash (something relatively easy to do in GU and W/R) he can net you multiple cards per turn cycle. Not the best doctor, but I would put him above the First Doctor.
I have a really interesting idea… Clara & Doctor plus Backgrounds. You get the classic benefit of having two commanders for the background to affect, and Clara will double up the Doctor’s triggers, making three total.
Wondering which I could pick for this. Blue and Red have the most applicable backgrounds. Maybe War Doctor? Passionate Archaeologist, Tavern Brawler, Dragon Cultist, Sword Coast Sailor… there’s a pretty big list.
Would love to see a decklist if you put one together, sounds lie an interesting idea!
How they gonna have background without the "choose a background" hability?
@@DM-Oz You run them in the maindeck with everything else
I've found an interesting one using another pair! I'm building The First Doctor & Bill Potts (W/U/R) as a Multi-Doctor/Cascade deck and the background "Passionate Archeologist" gives commander creatures the ability to deal damage every time you cast from exile (every time you cascade). Yasmin Khan is also a good companion for that.
I think the part you thought maybe missing about 11th is that 10th doctor gets something random meanwhile you can get a card in your hand suspended with 11th both him and amy are lowish mana so suspending a maybe 10 mana card would be amazing and 11 will give amy unblockable so maybe in 2 turns you get a 11 mana spell which you planned and even if your commanders are removed the suspend is still on.
Not wrong, but that's still fairly fragile - Amy is very vulnerable to removal or just getting tapped over and over, plus it relies on you having something good in your hand without any inherent draw or tutor ability to ensure you do. It's as random as the 10th, but considerably less reliable.
Something either funny or horrible you can do with the 12th Doctor, if you play a card with a massive downside, like Glorious End for example, you can force them to copy it and let it end them. In the Glorious End example, their copy would go off exiling yours on the stack so you don't get the downside, but they sure do. You could also make a non red player cast Pact of the Titan and, unless they have treasures, lose that way as well.
Honestly, War Doctor and K-9 are a pair I'm going to make. Tons of exile effects plus unblockable? Fantastic!
The war doctor is so good with cascade since itll get a time counter with every card revealed off of cascade. Throw in an Ozalith and its just busted.
And there's a red companion that exiles on attack he pairs strongly with
Does it really get a counter for each revealed card? Aren’t the cards put into exile at the same time with Cascade?
@MasterQuestMaster no they aren't put into exile at the same time because after each card, you check to see if it meets the cascade conditions. If yes, cascade ends. If not, next card. Repeat until conditions are met.
@MasterQuestMaster something like jeskas will specifies 3 cards so all of those enter exile at the same time.
@MasterQuestMaster it depends on the wording Gavin explains it in shuffle up and play
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. It's so satisfying to see a tier list where there's actually the same number of cards in each tier.
One thing that must be worth mentioning with the War doctor; if you have a card that says "Exile cards from the top of your library until you find a legendary creature" (for example) then you will get a time counter for every non-legendary creature revealed this way. And there just so happens to be a saga perfect for the War doctor's ability.
He can easily do 40 damage with his own effect if left alone too long.
Yup, learnt that after the fact, I was under the impression it would just be a single counter. Knowing what I know now, I would push the War Doctor to top of A tier or bottom of S.
War Doctor can kill at least one opponent really fast with a lucky cascade or Dark Apostle giving cascade to a 1 mana spell. Him and Tegan beating down with the double aid of things like Bastion Protector, Bloodsword Steward, Tavern Brawler, and Guild Artisan is very respectable aggro too.
The TARDIS also gives cascade to your next spell cast this turn, so if you play a 1 mana spell like Sol Ring then War Doctor is rising in power exponentially, lol
11th doctor I can agree you're groups nice casual, not pure evil casual.
Get red partner
-Armageddon
-Upheaval
-Apocalypse
-World Slayer
-World Fire
-Obliterate
-Decree of Annihalation
-Sunder
-Worldpurge
It's Jeskai with the option to do this trick and not wipe it's side of the board with white's (everything on my side phases/indestructible and not there.)
Alright I've reset the board and on my turn or the next turn I get... Omniscience, and 9 other 8/8's
T5 Amypond, get the boros land that gives +2/0 to a creature for 2. Give her reavercleaver aaaaand make her unblockable and what ever card you put out from the 11th is now instantly on the field. Also can use Hexplate, helm of the host, flaming fist,Jeskai Ascendenacy, Duelist Heritage,Kursami-gama,Jitte,etc and you can instant free remove suspend 10
Rogue Doctor
Flashback and Entwine for 6 tooth and nail, search and play your I win combo?
The fourth doctor is cheaper and is card advantage every turn where usually getting +1 of a card once isn't that strong. Also when you give all your cards flash, once each turn becomes WAY WAY STRONGER.
Looking at a budget upgrade for the Timey-Wimey deck, thinking about running The Ninth Doctor in the command zone and adding Paradox Haze and Court of Vantress in the deck to stack up as many upkeep steps as possible to spam "on upkeep" triggers and cheap out suspend cards quickly. The deck already comes with a lot of card advantage and I can add Lost Auramancers as a cheap tutor if I keep Rose in as the companion. Feels like it has potential.
I can't wait to build the 9th Doctor!
The timey wimey precon looks fun as hell to me.
It's definitely the best one
I wonder if the 11th has some potential building around the second ability, making small creatures unblockable. some low to the ground, 3 color deck with creatures that do stuff when they deal damage to a player, where the suspend is just a bonus on top?
I just switched the commanders in the Blast from the Past deck to the 8th Doctor and Jamie McCrimmon. Mill a few cards, and when you have Jamie, play historics from the graveyard and pump him up. Seemed like a smart plan
The fugitive doctor works well with Martha Jones. Create clues with simic, then swing with an unblockable fugitive and bring back spells.
Playing the precon, I'd much sooner play Eleven & Amy over Ten & Rose, because Rose is so bland.
After upgrading it would be different, because Clara just outshines so many other companions.
I really wanted the twelfth doctor to be playable! So happy to also see him in izzet colors! My fav after tennant.
I'd pair the Second Doctor with Vislor as he punishes a player for drawing cards
10 being strong blesses my heart
Wounds me how they did my favorite Doctor in 11
the first doctor works very well with the tardis, because casting the card after attacking with the tardis triggers the first doctors ability
People are underestimating Eleven's second ability. Again, I'm not saying he's an S tier, but it is an enabler for a lot of lower-powered attacking/dealing damage matters creatures. That's what you'd build around. The suspend (in his case) is just built-in card advantage if you have nothing to help with the second ability.
I really love the insane amount of new commanders in all the decks what with the companions themselves and the side characters that also happen to be legendary, also the companions that pair with their partners in the show is such a flavor win. Also also, Rip to Cool Mickey not making the cut.
Another point towards the Third Doctor is that being in Blue and Green means they love Blinks/Flickers and ETB effects. Thassa, Deep Dwelling is always a Blue card that comes to mind when thinking of things that like ETBs
The War Doctor is made to work with Yasmin Khan! Fitting as she is the most apt to help a Wartime Doctor, even though she loves her fam friendly 13th doctor with an obvious passion. The decks I'll build based on affinities might have River Song and the Ponsd (Amy * Rory) added in. And it was one of the salvations of the Jodie era. Yaz has great merits in taking some great moments away from the impoerfections of what Whitaker did in the role.
Neat trick with 12th: Pacts. Run all of the free pacts that make you lose the game if you don't pay the mana during your next upkeep. Demonstrate how you kill everyone with their own triggers.
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Playing the fourth doctor with the sixth doctor as the commander pretty much gives not only all of your historic off the top flash but makes sure they get a copy
Pippin's Bravery = you may sacrifice a food, +4+4 to target creature til eot !
ain't that wonderful ? Or do the 4th doctor creating food token does not equal "food" ?
in UDE Versus System (OG) there was Base of Operation , Clocktower... to help check the top card and rotate.Nightvision allowed to always see your top card like the 4th Doctor.
11th is my favourite, so im committed to building him, I have an esper list right now with the Angels, and Clara as my companion, am very hyped to play it!
Built a War Doctor and Clara combo the other day. I choose black for Clara to grt access to some black cards, but I might switch her to Green for ramp. Either way, dohble triggers on War was great and ended up slapping an opponent for 72 damage.
I'm building a Ninth + Clara (G) paradox haze deck. Can't decide if I want to do a Thallid: "Fungis from Outer Space", Suspend shenanigans with Jhoira, Alaundo and Tenth, or go straight Purphoros + Tokens. So many fun combos and ideas.
War Doctor paired with Clara Oswold on Black, play necropotence, exile 20 cards, put 40 time counters on War doctor, attack, kill 2 players
you're overthinking the 11th doctor, you just weenie your way to victory and make everything unblockable. So all those hate-bears? make em unblockable and turn cards sideways, that's it.
Being able to make any weenies unblockable for only 2 mana is way way better than you think it is. Compare it to "Access tunnel" which has the same exact ability (target creature w power 3 or less can't be blocked) with a cost of 3+the land (4 lands total) or Rogues passage for 5 total tapped lands and you can see how strong that ability can be for only 2 mana.
Plus the natural card draw white/blue has (things like Bident of Thassa and other "draw when you hit" cards) with the ability to suspend cards, and it even recovers really quickly from boardwipes. They wipe the board, but you have 2 or 3 cards on suspend that just get put out into play for free post-wipe and it doesn't even set you back.
Played against a friend who put out a "Mischievous Catgeist" on turn 2 (draw card when it hits), and I didn't have an answer for it, so he drew a card, then he made it unblockable for like 4 turns in a row and kept drawing cards and suspending cards, he always had a full grip and a dangerous wide board. Even after I wiped the board, he put the catgeist disturb aura onto something else and kept swinging in unblocked and kept drawing cards, I really didn't have any answers to that kind of unrelenting unblockable wide board.
weird design decision for the 13th Doctor : her "lover" (more than platonic by both actresses and chibnall)
do not share her color... BUT what if Yasmin was RED to combine as a trio of colors for the 13th & her ??
Ryan Sinclkair, Dan and Graham confirm the scheme maybe ? As well as the Fugitive Doctor?
What about comboing the Second Doctor with Vislor Turlough for an Esper deck that punishes the opponent with the cards you give them with black cards like Orcish Bowmaster and blue and white cards that have you both draw, like wedding ring and plenty of counters to stop your opponent from playing the cards you give them.
the sixth doctor pairs really, really well with romana ll. because she can create a copy of a target token that entered the battlefield this turn.
If you build The 5th around vehicles, you get to Crew them and keep on buffing it tho
Something not mentioned about the war doctor. Any card that exiles from the top until it hits something just wracks up his tokens. Things like cascade exile 1 at a time, each giving him a token. Its nuts.
Correct. At the time of recording I wasn't aware of this interaction. Knowing what I know now, War Doctor should be S tier.
I like the idea of the 12th doctor and phage the untouchable. Why yes opponent, I do think you want to play a copy of phage
I'm building "The First Doctor & Bill Potts" as a Doctor/Cascade deck with three different Wishes in order to get the instant "Research/Development" from outside of the game to cast the Research side and shuffle 4 of the green Doctors (or maybe 3 of them and "Bigger on the Inside") into my deck to cascade into. Bill Potts is there so I can single-target her with instant speed protection stuff so I can protect my TARDIS or Commander or something.
Just so you know "Outside of the game" cards don't work in Commander, so you'll have to Rule 0 it with your table.
@@attackoncardboard Yep! My playgroup has long squared away with each other that we can cast from "outside the game" under two conditions: we have a sideboard with cards ready, or if we are recasting something from exile that was already in the game.
WAIT WHAT?! OK. Im building a War Doctor deck.
Thats f*cking nuts!!!
Surprised you didn't mention, when talking about the 12th dr, the red extra turn card that makes an opponent lose the game on their following turn
Sorry, functioning on little to no sleep.
So for cards like Final Fortune, your opponents copy would resolve first, and yours will resolve last, meaning you get the next turn and then lose at the end of that turn.
The other card I could have mentioned was Glorious End, when you demonstrate that, your opponent's copy resolves first, exiling your copies on the stack.
@@attackoncardboard yea Glorious End is the one I was referring to
I kinda like the Fugitive Doctor as a kind of of Fallback for the usual Gruul gameplan. Do the normal ramp thing with Gruul in the 99 and as long as you can get SOME clues onto the field (either through going Naya with Sarah Jane smith or splashing blue with another companion), then the Fugitive Doctor can keep the deck from running out of steam.
After MKM spoilers finish, I'll definitely be going back to all the Clue Dr Who cards I dismissed, just to see if they've gotten any better. Here's hoping 🤞
With 12th, cast glorius end from outside gand, make them copy it, their copy removes yours from the stack and they loose unless they can kill you on your turn
Ponys: the galloping part 3 gotta add the doctor whooves and make it work with these😂
10 and War are the main ones I want to build around
Will have to get them separately, I do like keeping my UB decks intact though, the Warhammer ones especially were great against each other
Yeah those and 12 for me are top of my list. I'll be posting the PreCon reviews this week going over all the top cards and some minor upgrades. Once those are out I'll be doing rebuild videos :)
4 might not be a great commander on their own, but as a slot into the 13th deck, they support it pretty well i think.
14:28 you missed Madness and Cipher, which also work with the 12th doctor.
Edit: also Aftermath
Ciper creates a copy of a card in exile. It doesn't cast it from exile.
And yes, looks like I missed madness and aftermath 😅
@@attackoncardboardCipher creates a copy of the encoded card in exile, then allows you to cast the copy from exile. This is seen as casting a spell by the game and the appropriate triggers will trigger. This wording can be found on other cards, such as Isochron scepter. An example can be found in the rulings of Ral, Storm Conduit
What your thoughts about the other 2 Doctors coming out in the new Secret Lair? Id love to see a Fourteenth and Fifteenth review.
What actually stops Matt smiths doctor from time travelling and bring Amy and the other guy in the Tardis?
The keyword "Doctor's Companion" 😂
Making the creature unblockable then using attack triggers to make the creatures huge is fun in the 11th Doctor.
Can you do all companions next ?
I like the Third doctor the best I think. but the Tenth doctor as a potential Eldrazi tribal commander sounds fun. I think I like the third and the tenth the best of all of these.
I am a comeback player and a big DW fan. Never before played Commander format. Are these preconstructed decks good?
They're really good. Timey Wimey and Masters of Evil are my favourites. With Timey being the strongest of the 4.
damn... Just starting to learn all the keywords... Got 2 booster packs gifted to me at christmas, and buying singles off ebay since I ain't paying personally for a single booster at 45$ Canadian. i am 100% new to MAgic the Gathering. I am a whovian, and a player of Versus system, original version from 2005-06, UDE Marvel vs DC...
I will return with ideas and see if people think it's not that bad for a man who never played a single MTG game.
If you're looking to learn MTG and no one in your friend group plays, try out MTG Arena. It has one of the best introductions/tutorials to the game you could ask for :)
i'll see the game too, looks like heartstone ... which came first? I played hs year of release but never saw mtg arena before yesterday @@attackoncardboard
10th and 12th are my personal favorites. I love exile shenanigans and with the 10th doctor giving me a fun way to play more with suspend, I’m going to cause such chaos. The 12th is also great because my favorite card of all time is creative technique! The chaos I’ve caused with that card alone is much and fun, even the one time it lost me the game giving cat tribal there beast master ascension once.
Glorious End with the twelfth doctor :)
Tier list about the enemy of the doctor?
I absolutely adored the 13th Doctor. When I heard that they were going to have a female doctor I was a little hesitant saying here's the affirmative action but I kept an open mind and I'm glad I did because she played the doctor so fantastically. She is in my top three favorite doctors. Which is why I'm so fucking annoyed that her art looks so dumb
I'd argue 4 is a lot better given it is in great colors for tokens, historic cards are a dime a dozen, and you can play cards at flash speed. For the Fugitive Doctor you should also just pair them with a blue companion as all of them help out far more than white does.
I'm more excited for the art on all of them. All the Doctor's just look amazing.
Card text and words? What's that?
13:17 ANY creature you have unde 3 power gets un-blockable for 2 before attacking and equipping it with lets see sword of light and shadow, cardinal plating? 3 power for ti in blue white? and can suspend for free. I think is good. As for his suspend waht alike card comes into mind hmmm Aether Vial :D
All I can think about it how displacer kitten is going to shine
11th is meant to pair with 10th so that is the main reason he is lackluater by himself. (It's also a small reference to the show with the 2 teaming up with the War Doctor)
Hell yeah, I'm glad Twelth is so good, he was definitely the most fun and interesting commander option in Dr. Who for me imo. I was thinking it would work really well with Clara Oswald choosing Black as the color?
Don't forget, Clara doesn't trigger Demonstrate twice, as that's something that is "attached" to the card you're casting, not the Doctor themselves.
Clara will only triggers Dr 12's second ability an additional time.
Soooo, 12th doctor + Black companion, cast phage the untouchable from anywhere other than your hand against the final opponent and choose to copy it, and proceed to laugh when the copy you gave them resolves first.
You should add the two coming out in the Secret Lair in March now that they are spoiled
Fun fact River Song a beast in cedh
I'd put the Seventh doctor in S tier mostly because they can cheat things into play and you can double the triggers fairly easy. I love the idea of Azorius, upholders of law, truth, justice cheating cards into play with a simple guessing game, Oh look I cast an Eldrazi for free, Cascade for free, Suspend cards without CMC are free... I wouldn't put this Doctor so highly but having a 3/6 body keeps them around and the Cast trigger on his ability is everything, if it was a simple Play trigger they could put lands into play but never get the Cast effects on certain cards. The Seventh doctor is, to me, S tier due to these awesome options for building :P
I'm only on the First Doctor so far, isnt the whole point of the TARDIS to make your spells Cascade by attacking so you can stack +1/+1 counters? You dont necessarily need other Cascade cards if you have that to combo. Albeit still weak if the TARDIS get nixxed somehow but slightly better than was explained
i feel that the fourth doctor is more c than d because of his base color and the red companions at least in my eyes
What would the deck be like?
Im going 10th and clara but i can't 100% decide what color i want to add i want to do black for the time lord victorious flavor but i feel like green is just the better option
I wish the 4th doctor was better, his incarnation is my favorite
Perhaps you can do something infect related with the eleventh doctor, as many creatures in white and blue can have those effects as well as using a companion to add black to her some more infect creatures
Really sleeping on the synergy between Ryan and the First Doctor. That deck is A if not S tier quality. the rest of the First doctor builds are rather weak, but those two are very strong and gets tons of free spells.
Really think you missed the potential the 4th doctor has in terms of deck manipulation, Token and artifact synergies, and how it only gets better with companions such as Sara Jane Smith. Def a B tier card at least.
Happy to be wrong if that's the case, but I'm keen to see some builds from some better deck designers than me before I change my mind 😅
Lorewise isn't the Valeyard also a regeneration of the Doctor? Why didn't they make him black/red (I would have said black/blue, but blue mana seems reserved only for the properly numbered doctors which is a nice flavor win I wouldn't want them to ruin) with the Doctor trait?
At 15:11 I could he wrong but I don't think those spellls count as being cast. They're copies but unless the text says "cast the copy" they're just counted as played instead
Dr 12 simply says "Whenever you copy a spell", a spell is something that is on the stack. And the reminder text of each of those mechanics says "When you cast this spell, copy it".
*Edit - Or if you're talking about the cards I mention after the Keyword Ability cards, they effectively do the same thing.
@@attackoncardboardoh I see, thank you and good video
Play the War Doctor with K-9 as companion. Add Flamekin Herald and punch people for 80+ damage easy when your robo dog reveals your whole deck on cascade.
War Doctor says one or more, so exiling your deck with Cascade only gets one trigger.
@@davidhower7095 It'll count each card as a separate instance as cascade has to stop to check whether the card counts for the cascade effect or to keep going. It works the same way for cards like Leila, the Blade Reforged.
@@Tongarism TIL. I also thought it would be a single trigger.
@@attackoncardboard There's a lot of cascade, impulse, etc played in my friend group (looking at you Prosper and First Sliver) so I'm excited to build the War Doctor and punish my greedy friends. 😈
I wanted to build the War Doctor but i realized it's fuckin miserable to play against so i didn't
I haven't played magic in a while, and this piqued my interest. For the 12th Doctor, would its ability trigger from suspended spells? Are they cast from exile, and not the hand?
That's correct :)
I feel the comparison between the Sixth and Eighth Doctor is unfair. The Sixth Doctor is about Explosiveness, running away with the game if unanswered. The Eighth Doctor is about Resilience, the ability to recover. Something gets answered? Do they have TWO answers? It's a good Toolbox as well with Self-mill. Definitely feels like it should at *least* be a B, instead of a C.
And of course, people have already mentioned it, but The War Doctor can get out of hand real fast, and with the right build, would probably be S tier.
I'm trying to make a tenth doctor, romana, and zirda companion deck
The 11th is definitely not as good as 10, but he’s still better than most doctors he just has an easy replacement that the others don’t have. EXCEPT for the unblockable part, putting mirran swords on 1/1s adds a lot of unique value.
12:09 "Jahora"? oof.
But yes, he'd make excellent friends with those two.
Awesome content
Am i right in thinking The Twelfth Doctor would also trigger off of any copied spells that get cast if they're the first? A copied spell technically isn't being cast from your hand.
A spell is something that is on the stack.
Cards like Grapeshot will trigger the Doctor multiple times.