Be Careful Buying a Gaming Laptop...

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2021
  • The best gaming laptops in 2021 will have RTX 3060, 3070 and 3080 GPUs inside. But the naming is shady this year. Be informed.
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D  3 года назад +4909

    I REALLY don't like how Nvidia is naming their laptop GPUs this year. It's going to be a much more complex purchase decision. What do you think is the solution? How do you think should they name their laptop GPUs?

    • @philxiang2152
      @philxiang2152 3 года назад +362

      Idk dude

    • @ourchannel9173
      @ourchannel9173 3 года назад +232

      Its best to buy previous generation laptop when new models come out ,saves bucks for low budget people

    • @DanialHakimR
      @DanialHakimR 3 года назад +32

      I'll be bookmarking that spreadsheet link...

    • @souit957
      @souit957 3 года назад +894

      Bad 3060 not so good 3060 good 3060

    • @Haz3Nation
      @Haz3Nation 3 года назад +32

      @@souit957 lol

  • @Auchitya01
    @Auchitya01 3 года назад +20958

    I'm always careful, Dave. Because I have no money.

    • @ghaethwardeh
      @ghaethwardeh 3 года назад +243

      Me too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @SoMega1
      @SoMega1 3 года назад +59

      lol

    • @xcH1NOx1
      @xcH1NOx1 3 года назад +80

      And that is why you stay broke... Work hard for everything 😉👋

    • @user-yh8wp2ic6o
      @user-yh8wp2ic6o 3 года назад +509

      @@xcH1NOx1 What are you on about, what a useless response from a verified lil gaming youtuber

    • @slow_328i
      @slow_328i 3 года назад +415

      @@xcH1NOx1 and who are you.. you play the xbox for a living

  • @clem0x28
    @clem0x28 3 года назад +9893

    love watching this after buying a gaming laptop

    • @brandoncobb15
      @brandoncobb15 3 года назад +130

      😂

    • @Wren6858
      @Wren6858 3 года назад +233

      I bought an ideapad 3 gaming (AMD) with a 1650ti 6 months ago. I’m feeling really good about the timing of that purchase right now.

    • @Nickerarx
      @Nickerarx 3 года назад +25

      ur profile pic is same as my discord pic. interesting :|

    • @muhammedsalman4720
      @muhammedsalman4720 3 года назад +6

      Same to you

    • @poopsniffer4436
      @poopsniffer4436 3 года назад +81

      im abt to buy a legion 5

  • @kapilkalra373
    @kapilkalra373 3 года назад +734

    Dave: rtx 3070 laptops
    Me: aight imma head out

    • @amzxar5049
      @amzxar5049 3 года назад +24

      Aight, peace out

    • @matcentrino7602
      @matcentrino7602 3 года назад +3

      @@amzxar5049 I'ma go

    • @Mr.Helper.
      @Mr.Helper. 3 года назад +2

      I don’t get …. What happened

    • @demoth
      @demoth 3 года назад +29

      @Overlord Audiobooks still cheaper than a desktop 3070 gpu by itself

    • @ShadyLew
      @ShadyLew 3 года назад +4

      @Overlord Audiobooks 2k? I bought one for 900 EUR

  • @Tordenstjerne
    @Tordenstjerne 2 года назад +106

    Never thought of this before that the fancy GPU is a "waste of space" if the watt and cooling is not up to it. Hidden short-cuts that's part of a sales strategy. Great video and great retro watch!

    • @Kvs-vf9nt
      @Kvs-vf9nt Год назад +3

      Especially the cooling for gaming laptops. I have a great new gaming laptop with an I9 12900H RTX3080 2×16gb ddr5 ram that cools good. It's an MSI. And the wattage is low but the laptop works great for every game. It's an MSI GS77 stealth
      And yes it was almost 3500euro and I could switch it if I wanted in 14 days but I'm very happy with it. Performamcd and cooling is excellent which is very important. High fps and good cooling.

    • @Tordenstjerne
      @Tordenstjerne Год назад +3

      @@Kvs-vf9nt Yes cooling is of importance to f.ex. avoid thermal throttling, and with your "beauty and the beast" combo with great cooling system no wonder you are happy even with "low" 105W max graphic power. I was a little more modest when i this summer bought my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 6.gen with Ryzen 7 5800H and 3070 card with a total graphic power of 140W - tho the cooling system are working hard on heavy games... BUT - as a non hardcore gamer - for 1200 eur on sale i'm totally happy all in all. Tho i wouldn't mind the GS77...

    • @DinisBardino
      @DinisBardino 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​​​@@Kvs-vf9ntImagine dropping 3500€ on a laptop. Man never learned how to spend his money. I can play all games on best settings on my 650€ Gigabyte laptop (i5-12500h and gtx 4050)

  • @the-suspect
    @the-suspect 3 года назад +2355

    "If you can't convince them, confuse them." - Harry S.

    • @howardlam6181
      @howardlam6181 3 года назад +6

      Buying electronics with wattage in mind is standard in today's world.

    • @madman4043
      @madman4043 3 года назад +6

      Or - or... don't be an idiot, and look into your specs?

    • @TheReferrer72
      @TheReferrer72 3 года назад +61

      @@madman4043 It's hard to tell by specs, that's why you should always go to reviews. Which is way easier than the old days now we have RUclips and websites.

    • @the-suspect
      @the-suspect 3 года назад +18

      @@madman4043 And which manufacturer states the GPU wattage on their specs page? (very few do)

    • @adrianchau9858
      @adrianchau9858 3 года назад +2

      That is probably what all principles will say to the teachers.

  • @lieutent2654
    @lieutent2654 3 года назад +1077

    I love watching Dave **respectfully** backhand companies.

    • @lakasngamatzko4523
      @lakasngamatzko4523 3 года назад +23

      Just say Bitch Slap.
      It's better ❤️

    • @SiamHossain7
      @SiamHossain7 3 года назад +4

      @@lakasngamatzko4523 nah

    • @bitbyte8177
      @bitbyte8177 3 года назад +1

      Yes. Like macbook pro 16 thermal throttling issue

    • @justinsugay1149
      @justinsugay1149 3 года назад +7

      Is it back handing if he's just being honest truth just hurts sometimes and this is good for the consumer. Dave alerting us that is. This behooves Nvidia to rename their whole laptop line for clarity maybe just add an L to the front or something or a letter rating to indicate wattage range is L3080A vs L3080B. A = 120 to 135 Watts vs B = 95 to 110 Watts? Just an idea so we can buy in a more accurately informed way? Reward companies that do this vs don't?

    • @Brickinasock
      @Brickinasock 3 года назад +5

      Nvidia deserves a steel chair across the back of the head tbh.

  • @NerdyCats3
    @NerdyCats3 3 года назад +16

    Thank you! I've been looking to break this down. Of course Lenovo Legion just came out with the Ryzen and 3070/3080 combo, so the new cpu and managment software adds into the mix as well.

  • @michaelortega5185
    @michaelortega5185 3 года назад +22

    I have been looking at gaming laptops for years since I purchased my first one 3 years ago. It is interesting to see these power differences for high performing/top-of-the-line RTX GPUs per TDP performance. Much appreciated and now I have a renewed perspective on looking deeper into the individual specs of all gaming laptops components. Cheers!

  • @daunrealist3
    @daunrealist3 3 года назад +838

    Other RUclipsrs: long intro, long outro
    Dave: cuts off his own outro

    • @sadatnafis2032
      @sadatnafis2032 3 года назад +29

      Welcome to the "watched till the end" club.

    • @yunix9269
      @yunix9269 3 года назад +9

      mrbeast gaming : am I a joke to you?

    • @mrmooomooman7269
      @mrmooomooman7269 3 года назад

      Gotta keep that audience retention time up

    • @rice5827
      @rice5827 3 года назад

      @@newlikes6632 wtf is this

    • @SubZyYT
      @SubZyYT 3 года назад +1

      i just found this channel off my recommends and man this guy knows how to talk i really like his videos, i watch linus tech tips for info too but i get really distracted probably because he tries to add comedy in his videos, this video is nice and straight forward.

  • @benjaminsutton1129
    @benjaminsutton1129 3 года назад +9

    thanks for doing this! so informative and thoughtful, you really care and it shows!

  • @13rock0lee
    @13rock0lee 3 года назад +3

    You are so easy to understand. Thank you for your work! And the people who help you along the way.

  • @TechAisle
    @TechAisle 3 года назад +2077

    The fact that such a large RUclipsr is not afraid of just bashing large companies is awesome!

    • @aguy6641
      @aguy6641 3 года назад +24

      He was careful

    • @pcuimac
      @pcuimac 3 года назад +126

      Since when is thoughtful critizism "bashing"?

    • @vivs005
      @vivs005 3 года назад +40

      @@pcuimac To the large companies it is.

    • @cswapnil
      @cswapnil 3 года назад +6

      He isn't bashing, he has good way to put to companies that they suck ballz. 😅

    • @tristanwright9405
      @tristanwright9405 3 года назад

      Anyone know how the razer 1660ti is and how it performs along side other 1660 tis

  • @gkztech
    @gkztech 3 года назад +1876

    I love this guy... He makes things simple and eazy to understand..

    • @minghaofei
      @minghaofei 3 года назад +22

      exactly! dave's videos are concise but straight to the point!

    • @haniffat
      @haniffat 3 года назад +14

      Bought my gaming laptop cause of his reviews, very straight to the point and so easy to understand.

    • @kshitij9898
      @kshitij9898 3 года назад +64

      - Less focus on useless tech specifications
      - Talks more about build qualities, real world applications, thermals
      - No long intro's, off topic segments
      - No distracting background music
      - A voice I can listen to all day
      Ez subscription

    • @big0sro0boss
      @big0sro0boss 3 года назад +5

      EZ

    • @poeticsilence047
      @poeticsilence047 3 года назад +4

      That he doesn't try to over sell you ANYTHING. He is just straight forward.

  • @augustaseptemberova5664
    @augustaseptemberova5664 3 года назад +16

    That's why I never choose a setup going by CPU and GPU or wattage, but wait for company-independent testing to see on channels like these how this powerful hardware actually performs in any given laptop/assembly. I've seen old-gen GPUs and CPUs in low-wattage systems perform way better than new-gen GPUs or CPUs in high-wattage systems, simply due to the way the hardware is assembled and how well it hence manages thermal conduction and ventilation.

  • @andrewbernas3988
    @andrewbernas3988 2 года назад +4

    Thank you Dave for the helpful info. Probably why nVidia decided with the naming scheme because as I have looked into comparison videos of laptop vs desktop gpus and on average, showed little difference in performance and in other games the laptop even outperforms better.

  • @theprocrastinator6813
    @theprocrastinator6813 3 года назад +2284

    The moment customizable gaming laptops becomes the norm, that's when the sales will go up.

    • @GGIGamingINC
      @GGIGamingINC 3 года назад +70

      Give it less than 10 years lol

    • @senkotatsu6640
      @senkotatsu6640 3 года назад +130

      that would be awesome, laptops without trackpads would also be cool

    • @edwardlynch6550
      @edwardlynch6550 3 года назад +28

      They already are arnt they

    • @kaixer9312
      @kaixer9312 3 года назад +3

      illegear laptop?

    • @vbag42
      @vbag42 3 года назад +17

      XMG and Eluktronics sells something like that

  • @PaImerL
    @PaImerL 3 года назад +1395

    Imagine in an alternate universe Dave is all about matte black and MQBHD for the white.

  • @You-vj2zr
    @You-vj2zr 3 года назад

    OMFG U ARE AWESOME , Thankyou so much for sharing your spreadsheet I was noticing this throughout Best Buy question and answers section under the laptops, so many under powered gpu’s in big name brand laptops and no clear indication that they are that way

  • @Laurentus
    @Laurentus 2 года назад

    I really appreciate your vids, man. It's always super short and to-the-point.

  • @iswoo4705
    @iswoo4705 3 года назад +500

    Pro tip- You dont need to be careful when you dont have money

    • @cyrxxrx-.-9547
      @cyrxxrx-.-9547 3 года назад +2

      Haha!

    • @TheJohnRowley
      @TheJohnRowley 3 года назад +18

      Thinking like this is why you have no money

    • @Phloggers
      @Phloggers 3 года назад +28

      @@TheJohnRowley shut the fuck up

    • @thisemptyworm4677
      @thisemptyworm4677 3 года назад

      Or when you don’t game on the go often

    • @mfi6522
      @mfi6522 3 года назад +19

      @@TheJohnRowley so thinking like you have a bunch of money to spend into everything and make you into such a spoiled brat is "better" than calculating a strategic and suitable budget plan that possibly benefits you in long term??

  • @majid2977
    @majid2977 3 года назад +246

    I wish Dave was my school techer. makes everything easy and simple

  • @A11N4TURAL
    @A11N4TURAL 3 года назад +3

    I really appreciate that when i click on your videos i know for a fact that your going to go straight into it and your gonna give us the info and your genuine opinion and not ask for subscription or any aimless talking for that i subscribe and support u plz dont change

  • @anovin82
    @anovin82 3 года назад

    Great video and great point Dave. After a year of using my Lenovo Y740 w/ the RTX 2060 GPU, I think the cooling didn’t do its job and I’ve just recently sent it in for repairs.

  • @magicsnow9453
    @magicsnow9453 3 года назад +185

    I love how Dave cares about his community, it's why I've been stuck here for the past 5 years.
    Thanks sir. Like always, love your genuine work.

  • @GizmoSlipTech
    @GizmoSlipTech 3 года назад +851

    Hey Dave! Rocking video! Thanks for discussing the topic. I believe consumers really need to know about this. I tried emailing Nvidia about the omission of Max-Q on laptop listings, which I also made a video about--but I didn't get a response. The whole idea of hiding the performance of a laptop through confusing your customers just feels so wrong to me because many consumers will discover it and be furious or alternatively be potentially duped into buying a more expensive lower TDP GPU (RTX 3080 80-90W) that will significantly under perform (on a per dollar spent and potentially in straight raw performance, hard to say yet) compared to a high wattage RTX 3080 (150W+), RTX 3070 (140W max I've seen so far) or RTX 3060 (130W max I've seen so far). I'm all for thin and light 3080 laptops pushing the limits of performance in thin and light form factors--but we really need better transparency for TDP on all reseller sites and retailers, because it can so heavily determine real world performance. Thanks for your well thought out video and standing with consumers! EDIT: For those interested, this is my video on this topic: ruclips.net/video/uZIYacgfwbc/видео.html

    • @privatebenfallsprivat8428
      @privatebenfallsprivat8428 3 года назад +7

      what did you expect a level 1 support to do about it? lmao

    • @nickdutton6218
      @nickdutton6218 3 года назад +3

      As a person shopping for a gaming laptop for the last couple years, performance and spec language is something I've been reading up on and feel that many others are doing the same as me, it would disrupt sales until reviews hit, because I'm certainly not going to spend considerable money and end up with a product I feel doesn't match expected performance. As people familiar with the spec language aren't going to see those usual indicators. Nvidia is more than welcome to try and juke their customer base but they really are putting a lot more onus, and power, onto their independent reviewers.

    • @nickdutton6218
      @nickdutton6218 3 года назад +11

      @@privatebenfallsprivat8428 he's a RUclips reviewer, they all get direct access emails to the Nvidia media team and don't have to go through the website proforma

    • @CragScrambler
      @CragScrambler 3 года назад

      Early benchmarks are already weeding out these

    • @Mystery017
      @Mystery017 3 года назад +2

      happened with the 2000x series as well. i have a 2080mq and there's a setting that switches it from 80w to 90w in the menu. i tend to keep it at 80 w because the noise is crazy

  • @Cocada0_0
    @Cocada0_0 2 года назад

    Banger video, this'll definitely help once i upgrade my laptop's gpu (currently got a GTX 1050, it does the job for me at least)

  • @Dunpeal1200
    @Dunpeal1200 3 года назад +1

    Damn dude! Thank you very much! I've seen the difference since i'm in a kind of "hot" country (in the caribean) and getting a lot of problems with cooling my gaming laptop even if i can play sometimes with airconditionning. I've bought the first ROG wich were like 1.34 inch and after i get a CLEVO at 1.75inch with a 300W for the alimentation. They both got te get used to heat in here. But the ROG Hero II with his 0.98 inch suffer a lot of heat. It's hard to push it on performance.
    I love ASUS but hard to buy a Griffin ( i love the style) or another CLEVO (kids are a budget) so no other solution than an Helios 700 that you covered well! And Thank you very much for the drawbacks on this laptop that not so many youtubers mentionned!
    Keep it on and Thank you again !

  • @johnnybravo4089
    @johnnybravo4089 3 года назад +205

    I wasnt going to buy anything. But since you said, I'm not going to buy anything...

    • @markusip
      @markusip 3 года назад +3

      @@user-kx9ov8ck9t who wanna do it with a man anyway, wtf?

  • @astaroth5024
    @astaroth5024 3 года назад +684

    I love how NVIDIA can be so good and so incompetent at the same time.

    • @Peaceful_Gojira
      @Peaceful_Gojira 3 года назад +27

      And then as a team red user, AMD's so good and so unstable at the same time.

    • @Claude-Vanlalhruaia
      @Claude-Vanlalhruaia 3 года назад +31

      @@Peaceful_Gojira That would be true 2 years back about the unstable part but as of recent AMD is more stable than NVIDIA, my next build is gonna be AMD for the first time.

    • @Peaceful_Gojira
      @Peaceful_Gojira 3 года назад +6

      @@Claude-Vanlalhruaia Really? I have full AMD and it is super unstable unless you overclock it to precise measurements, which is odd. When I had a NVIDIA laptop, I never ran into any issues or crashes that were related NVIDIA, it was always just bad temps. Here, I was using auto/default values on all of my AMD components, and have had it end up crashing my PC many times, and it's always pointed to an AMD component and nothing else.
      or perhaps I shouldn't be using Code Red Mtn Dew as a liquid cooling solution....hmmm..

    • @virgobro2025
      @virgobro2025 3 года назад +5

      Just like Corsair
      Great hardware
      Unusable software

    • @jaylenbrownfan2112
      @jaylenbrownfan2112 3 года назад +2

      Todd Howard has entered the chat.

  • @BeckTheThug
    @BeckTheThug 2 года назад

    Very short concise and helpful video !!

  • @vesselinkrastev
    @vesselinkrastev 3 года назад +4

    Well, that kinda sucks... I'm planning on maybe getting a new laptop later this year so I'd thought I'd just quickly check how things stand currently. Thanks for making this video!

    • @Bafana777
      @Bafana777 Год назад

      Did you get it? Or you just went for Desktop instead?

  • @reahslademhA
    @reahslademhA 3 года назад +214

    I respect this man a lot for so many things he does in his videos. Aesthetic, composure, clarity, the single take, the brevity and depth of his reviews, the simplicity of his language. Dave is here to do a job, he does it for himself and for us, and he does it perfectly. Now I can add one more thing to respect: Integrity. Thank you, sir.

    • @thehaoryan
      @thehaoryan 3 года назад

      Indeed man. This all sums up to: sophisticated.

  • @kaushalnandan7187
    @kaushalnandan7187 3 года назад +164

    Dave is one of those rare youtubers who actually thinks more about his viewers than the companies he's getting his product from. Literally no one can hate this guy!!!! He's friends must be really lucky to have him.

    • @cutebruce
      @cutebruce 3 года назад +2

      exactly, he is a humble guy too

    • @AbanRoby
      @AbanRoby 3 года назад +1

      can't agree more

    • @animistde
      @animistde 3 года назад +5

      You're wrong, the companies hate him

    • @kaushalnandan7187
      @kaushalnandan7187 3 года назад

      @@animistde that's somewhat true though 😂

  • @mr.pufferfish8895
    @mr.pufferfish8895 2 года назад +6

    this is helpful af I was gonna get a 3060 laptop but didn't know that the amount of power that goes into a laptop mattered that much

  • @EpicScamp
    @EpicScamp 3 года назад +5

    I remember when gtx 1080 gaming laptops were very nice in design although they were on the heavy side in terms of weight they had a sturdiness. Nowadays the 3000 series the designs are very simple and lightweight and mostly the screen sizes are fixed to 15.5 inch screens instead of 17 inch screen size option.

  • @907nope
    @907nope 3 года назад +20

    Its nice to see you bring this up. I was shopping laptops at the RTX 20/30 shift and found that looking at the wattage (if a seller gives that info) was the only way to determine whether a laptop had the gpu I wanted. Many sellers have incorrect descriptions. I was also ready to preorder an MSI GE76 Raider with a full power RTX 3080, but found that while all the ads list it as having an i9 processor, the first run is only going to have a i7-10870h. I called MSI and they don't plan to run the i9 versions until Feb/March.

  • @STORMFIRE07
    @STORMFIRE07 3 года назад +523

    You should share that spreadsheet with other laptop reviewers like Jarrod's Tech, Bob Of All Trades, OwnOrDisown, Hardware Unboxed etc so they can also fill it and share it with their audience so the awareness spreads to everyone

    • @unknown_chillhuman
      @unknown_chillhuman 3 года назад +15

      Underrated comment! Totally agree

    • @clockinin1401
      @clockinin1401 2 года назад +6

      but ur prof name just discourages everyone hurmm XD

    • @STORMFIRE07
      @STORMFIRE07 2 года назад +1

      @@clockinin1401
      It works tho, no one calls me by by my pfp name lol

    • @sapopano1539
      @sapopano1539 2 года назад +1

      Nah fr tho. Cause that spread sheet still needs some help 😂

    • @sheldonfelix4313
      @sheldonfelix4313 Год назад +2

      Jarrod knows that tho

  • @caseyrice768
    @caseyrice768 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the spreadsheet. There are so many options! Definitely don't want to fork over big $$$ for a 3070 and then have it underperform.

    • @darshanmukadam
      @darshanmukadam Год назад +1

      That sheet is gone :( Does anyone have it?

  • @mcan-piano4718
    @mcan-piano4718 2 года назад

    Thank you for telling this, I was really confused about whats with those watt concept...

  • @jkmorbo
    @jkmorbo 3 года назад +256

    You're a real one for making a video about this and not making it 10 mins long.

    • @zuthula3847
      @zuthula3847 3 года назад +2

      It's still unnecessarily long and he takes forever to get to the point. Then he doesn't even realize the obvious solution is to just put the word laptop after the gpu name. There was no point to this video at all.

    • @santels2345
      @santels2345 2 года назад +1

      @@zuthula3847 Did you even watch the video? By adding the word laptop in the end of an gpu's name. It doesn't help consumers to compare the performance of the gpu in that specific laptop. Maybe obvious naming would be like: 1650 ti 90W, by adding the watts the buyer would understand the potential performance better

    • @zuthula3847
      @zuthula3847 2 года назад

      @@santels2345 or just scroll down to the spec sheet and compare it to the desktop version? There is no need for such convoluted nomenclature that could be replaced by something much simpler that more people would understand.

    • @santels2345
      @santels2345 2 года назад

      @@zuthula3847 I agree with you that it's not too helpful and necessary when you think of it but maybe it would help even slightly

    • @zuthula3847
      @zuthula3847 2 года назад

      @@santels2345 yeah the wattage would help but adding in more meaningless numbers to the name like he said would just further confuse people.

  • @robertomarsachjr3796
    @robertomarsachjr3796 3 года назад +9

    Thanks for the information and the SS! I was planning on finally dipping into a gaming laptop this year and this was so helpful.

  • @salttrader4113
    @salttrader4113 2 года назад +4

    Totally agree, I am looking for a new gaming laptop and have to look at so many things:
    -gpu Watt
    -gpu Core speed
    -amount of ram on the 3080, can be either 8 or 16 gigs.
    Plus all the other stuff like benchmarks, upgradability, cooling system, cpu and ram etc. Yeah, it's a mess!

  • @parkeryoung9165
    @parkeryoung9165 3 года назад

    I love your reviews and you helped inform my decision to order an Alien Ware G15 R5 with the Ryzen CPU. I'd love to see that laptop on the list!

  • @dsgm18595
    @dsgm18595 3 года назад +51

    Dave Lee is the goat. He's creating spreadsheets for us, opening engineering samples on the fly, escaped captivity from Apple for the MBPro i9 fiasco.. 🐐

  • @DanielDuedu
    @DanielDuedu 3 года назад +269

    That’s why I love “Bob of All Trades” BOAT.

    • @GrayFox370
      @GrayFox370 3 года назад +35

      And Jarrod's Tech

    • @cybercery5271
      @cybercery5271 3 года назад +2

      Buggiest of all time

    • @why_tho_
      @why_tho_ 3 года назад +7

      @@GrayFox370 Yeah, I love his work. Code Husky is also there to uphold any quality control issues of products that may not get detected by Dave or sometimes Jarrod.

    • @injuredkid8943
      @injuredkid8943 3 года назад

      exactly man👌👌👌

    • @Be_ashutosh
      @Be_ashutosh 3 года назад +5

      BOAT the GOAT

  • @thecraftingkit8584
    @thecraftingkit8584 3 года назад

    @Dave2d watched every part of video Thanks for the update! I myself was gettin a bit confused with the recent trend in promos for gaming laptops regarding 3060 gpu's They're poppin out in the industry like they have the same specs all over not to mention the naming/labelling as you've discussed..

  • @elsantopadre710
    @elsantopadre710 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for making this video. I’m thinking of upgrading my current laptop and this puts a new perspective to make the choice

  • @livintolearn7053
    @livintolearn7053 3 года назад +275

    Me with no money watching this: .................yeah, okay.

    • @ryanjohnson2844
      @ryanjohnson2844 3 года назад +8

      Me with no money- this is preposterous

    • @harshkaushik0011
      @harshkaushik0011 3 года назад +4

      OMG same😂😂💀💀

    • @aitoluxd
      @aitoluxd 3 года назад +4

      Me with no money: Dang! Why dis. How they want me to know which is which now?

    • @barbariangamer6209
      @barbariangamer6209 3 года назад +3

      hhh same here

    • @user-vu1ht7gt3x
      @user-vu1ht7gt3x 3 года назад +1

      i feel like i dont have much options to chose from where i live and at the same time im not sure if i want to spend 2100 dollars on a razor blade or similar i want a laptop that can perform good at gaming and in garphics and good ram and sotrage around 1000$

  • @zillion914
    @zillion914 3 года назад +44

    I really hope Dave never changes, because truth and honesty for me is everything that is important to me in life. Thank you!

  • @rebeccadunn2306
    @rebeccadunn2306 3 года назад

    this helps loads!!!! I've been looking into getting a gaming laptop with a good screen (I also like glowing lights 😅) I'm not a heavy gamer but wanna get into it more.
    videos like this helps loads especially considering I get really confused by the ram, storage, systems and stuff.
    I always have been but it's even more complicated now 😅
    videos like this help especially whilst deciding between laptops 😅(thinking between p pavilion 15.6 in rizen and the acer nitro 5 😅)
    this video helps tons in knowing that bigger numbers doesn't specifically mean better quality😅

  • @Zetty545
    @Zetty545 2 года назад +5

    If you guys want a solid purchase then look out for the msi gp76 11ug. It got a 3070 with 140 watts. I saw it on sale for 1600$. I am very happy with that laptop

  • @seyyedmohammadaminbineshta8822
    @seyyedmohammadaminbineshta8822 3 года назад +27

    I love how he talks, there are so many laptop reviews he makes that I watch even though I have no intention whatsoever to buy anything

  • @YouTube-Administrator
    @YouTube-Administrator 3 года назад +20

    Thank you for informing us of this and a huge thanks for making that spreadsheet!

  • @mysteltainn001
    @mysteltainn001 3 года назад

    Thanks bro! this was just the info I was looking for.

  • @AlexSilva1976
    @AlexSilva1976 3 года назад

    Thanks man... you just save a lot of trouble. Subscribed.

  • @techpappee
    @techpappee 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for this. It's exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to figure out what GPU varaints were in the new 30 series laptops besides 60, 70 etc. I'm in the market but dont want a 20 series when 30 are only days away from launching. I'll be looking at the sheet for sure once it's updated.

  • @KingBIGDave
    @KingBIGDave 3 года назад +5

    Dang, I am loving the new clean intros!! 🔥🔥

  • @ramonespinoza7661
    @ramonespinoza7661 3 года назад

    thanks for the database, i´m an alienware fan but since i notice the cooling and wattage factor i keep watching other brands, even in my first gaming laptop (m14xr2 with a gt650m), a custom cooling base give -10° = to automatic mhz gain, without overclock.

  • @capster728
    @capster728 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for being in depth, you have definitely earned a subscriber

  • @misteryee
    @misteryee 3 года назад +50

    Dave, you will need a tier list update every 5 laptops you review, or keep a running track in the spread sheet of where you would rank them

  • @andeluuledna
    @andeluuledna 3 года назад +156

    A video that many RUclipsrs can easily extend to 10+ mins, Dave chose not to and went straight to the point and finished up where it should be.
    The RUclipsr we need but don’t deserve :’)

    • @gravy4708
      @gravy4708 3 года назад +1

      Wt da fuk

    • @LuisSoto-fw3if
      @LuisSoto-fw3if 3 года назад +7

      True. I think is mostly because he does these videos for "fun" and not for profit. If I'm not mistaken he has a well-paying job so he doesn't need to squeeze every scent he can get from RUclips.

  • @tikotaker
    @tikotaker 3 года назад

    Bro your advice is so good. Now I'm subs you.

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 3 года назад +8

    After watching many laptop review s This seems to be the Case with 20 series GPU s too along with CPU /wattage/ heat equation . Keeping it simple nets better results overall ie: i5/4800 paired with 1660ti/2060 is the best deal for the money!!

  • @AkshayKumar-kz6zh
    @AkshayKumar-kz6zh 3 года назад +5

    Respect ++ Dave sir. How many RUclipsrs do this for their community? You are special 😁

  • @411sponge72
    @411sponge72 3 года назад +9

    Thank you Dave for this heads up! I'm really interested in the Legion 5 Pro and the Legion 7. We will see what wattage graphics they will put in these models.

  • @doctaskunk
    @doctaskunk 3 года назад +21

    Love watching this after buying a desk top. It's the way to go

  • @brianbean19
    @brianbean19 3 года назад

    Thank you for this invaluable information, I really appreciate it!

  • @haardikchaudhary6557
    @haardikchaudhary6557 3 года назад +90

    miss those two lights in the back

  • @Pshen2p
    @Pshen2p 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the heads up, I've always attributed performance differences to thermal issues. This changes things.

  • @davidbeard2451
    @davidbeard2451 3 года назад

    Great vid...extremely helpful and informative.

  • @Tom_Quixote
    @Tom_Quixote Год назад

    Thanks for this video; it's very useful for me who's been out of the laptop market for many years and getting confused by the new GPUs. I find it's misleading marketing to not label the wattage.

  • @Mayank-sl3bb
    @Mayank-sl3bb 3 года назад +77

    2:13 Its amazing how Dave tells "Traditionally, if you are watching this video, you'll be looking for the stuff any ways"
    He understands his audience very well.

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem 3 года назад +8

      Just to make his audience fell good about themselves. Smart tactic. U prob didn’t know about the wattage issue if yr being honest tho

    • @el0j
      @el0j 3 года назад +1

      @@mopnem I didn't

    • @jonasalopecia1662
      @jonasalopecia1662 3 года назад +6

      @@mopnem hm I didn't but I dont compare those chips anyways on their names but their performance reviews. Cuz if u know laptops u know same chips can deliver really different performance due to temps e.g

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem 3 года назад +2

      @@jonasalopecia1662 Very true..

    • @LuisSoto-fw3if
      @LuisSoto-fw3if 3 года назад

      @@jonasalopecia1662 userbenchmark ftw eh?

  • @KA-jx2pe
    @KA-jx2pe 3 года назад +4

    Excellent as usual Dave. Thanks for the spread sheet too.

  • @kevinburrell3359
    @kevinburrell3359 2 года назад +2

    I'm still using the zypherus 14 late July 21 model and love it. I just wish it came with an rtx 3070 instead of 3060. I do know this laptop comes with custom settings where you can push it to 80 watts which I think is pretty strong for better performance and graphics but I don't know where to push the GPU to. I can also raise the fan to cool the laptop more but don't want to damage this as I caught this $1,700 laptop for $1,300 and I am not working right now to afford another one. I was blessed to get that through a loan I took out.

  • @Codeeez
    @Codeeez 2 года назад

    Nice. Good info bro

  • @LinusKlang
    @LinusKlang 3 года назад +7

    Hey Dave! This is amazing! in 2 ways, you work on this file could be setting a new no bullshit standard. And amazingly stupid for manufactures to not inform their buyers if they buys a super mashine, a fine machine, a silent machine, a crippled machine or even sort of a brick?!

  • @satyamprashar1506
    @satyamprashar1506 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for the heads up, Buddy !!!!!

  • @ALHarkeML
    @ALHarkeML 3 года назад +119

    Thank you for being the guy that really helps normal people be informed.

  • @phiromtauch6059
    @phiromtauch6059 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for keeping these tech companies on their toes. It keeps the industry honest. Kudos my 😎

  • @oceyho
    @oceyho 3 года назад +52

    They should just bring the 3070(m) naming back. That way everyone knew that those were always the lower powered laptop cards.

    • @himmelkami3308
      @himmelkami3308 3 года назад +2

      there is not one level of lower power this year. and new tech like sharing power between cpu and gpu which will make even wattage labeling not working , I just recommend looking for the review.

    • @briggm
      @briggm 3 года назад +3

      Agreed, however that's only part of the problem. Another confusing aspect for consumers is that a 3060(m) for example can have a TDP of 80W, 90W, 115W, etc. all of which offer different levels of performance, yet there is no obligation for manufacturers to advertise this - so they rarely do.

    • @agps4418
      @agps4418 3 года назад

      In laptops its redundant

    • @AshrakAhmed
      @AshrakAhmed 3 года назад +2

      @@himmelkami3308 Do you know how hard is to find review for the exact SKU your friendly computer shop selling!
      Laptop makers come up with several variance of the same base model with some SKU name just being different depending on the retailer and some actually having totally different hardware inside.
      So the manufacturer have to mention the TDP or it becomes a minefield where trying to find the exact right SKU becomes an adventure of it's own!

    • @himmelkami3308
      @himmelkami3308 3 года назад +1

      @@AshrakAhmed what I want to say is that tdp itself won’t determine the performance on certain load.you can check the power supply ,it is up to manufacturers to adjust the priority of power between gpu and cpu and trottle limit when load is high. Even Same wattage won’t refelct the actual performance.

  • @Millicente
    @Millicente 3 года назад +399

    Sounds like corporate "here's some money under the table so we don't have to tell people our 2 watt sh*t GPU is sh*t"

    • @za1231in
      @za1231in 3 года назад +12

      fucking capitalists!

    • @nothingtoseehere96
      @nothingtoseehere96 3 года назад +7

      CORPOS!

    • @rappermerch7785
      @rappermerch7785 3 года назад +2

      @@za1231in innovation so bad amirite guys 🤫😉

    • @TheLucidLuxray
      @TheLucidLuxray 3 года назад +8

      @@za1231in Still better than communism.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 3 года назад

      Do you have any actual evidence to support this?

  • @a.e.m7410
    @a.e.m7410 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video and the excel sheet 👍 but can you add the more known brands in the excel
    Like the lenovo legion series

  • @williambell4591
    @williambell4591 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for your help with the performance specs - I was looking into perhaps getting that latest Razer Ryzen as a Daddy's day toy - sorta bummed by the 16GB RAM, would have preferred 32G since I do video editing, 3D graphics and game development - gaming is secondary for me - performance is utmost.
    I may just put together another desktop build (if I can acquire all the parts :-/ ), or perhaps buy a pre-built one this time around.

  • @Green-wq7vb
    @Green-wq7vb 3 года назад +6

    I was actually looking to buy this year, so thanks for the heads up!

  • @zillion914
    @zillion914 3 года назад +8

    I really hope Dave never changes, because truth and honesty for me is everything. Thank you!

  • @hagenhallgard8619
    @hagenhallgard8619 Год назад +2

    Thanks, your video was very helpful ! That's the kind of informations i like to get. Liked and subscribed. However looks like the link for the spreadsheet is not working anymore.

  • @spookfella
    @spookfella 2 года назад

    I agree the amount of watts definitely plays a huge role when it comes to performance and the amount of fps you get

  • @iryze420
    @iryze420 3 года назад +3

    i fw you heavy dave. stay safe broski

  • @wesleytenacity_
    @wesleytenacity_ 3 года назад +7

    Good guy Dave always looking out for his viewers’ interest.

  • @LexiBethH
    @LexiBethH 2 года назад +12

    I did my research, hardcore, and took the dive into buying a zephyrsG14. I actually had the 15 originally but the processor was junk on it, because of the shortage on literally everything they could only replace it with a 14. Im glad you put them both in S tier at one point because it validates my purchase and I feel less bad about it.
    However, this was probably the worst purchase I’ve ever made. My motherboard has melted twice and I have a desk fan for it lol. I barely even got a chance to try the G15 because the processor ate shit like the 3rd day I had it. If I had room for a tower I would have gotten a tower.
    Crossing my fingers that the motherboard doesn’t melt again because my warranty expires next month haha !

    • @falseidentities
      @falseidentities 2 года назад

      My motherboard broke too. Nobody can fix it. 1.5K$ down the drain.

    • @grayblues.6424
      @grayblues.6424 2 года назад

      MELT??? what were you doing on it???
      pls answer bc I got the same specs and I wanna be sure I'm not doing it too 😭😭

  • @BambooBob
    @BambooBob 3 года назад +2

    very informative. I'm glad I got to see this. I build workstations and only use a laptop "from" work. But, my daughter is looking to buy a new laptop this year, so this was good to know! I subscribed and will be looking forward to more on laptops. Thanks!

  • @DaysVFX
    @DaysVFX 3 года назад +21

    Can we just say that. Dave's intro has INSANE bass LMAO

    • @survivor4317
      @survivor4317 3 года назад +1

      lol i kinda got scared i didnt expect that beat

  • @tatonoot1950
    @tatonoot1950 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much Dave, I have absolute respect for you on this list idea.

  • @ItsMicoNiel
    @ItsMicoNiel 3 года назад

    My birthday is coming up and I was thinking of switching from a console to a pc, but I don't have enough money for it so I went for a laptop. This video helped a lot since I dont know anything about laptops.

  • @ahgksi
    @ahgksi 2 года назад

    Thank you so much Dave for this.
    I m planning to get a Rtx 3060 laptop and prices are varying by a lot and i was wondering why so much price difference when the specs are same. Now i know.
    Please make more tips and advices to worry about when buying a gaming laptop

  • @sudipkc6185
    @sudipkc6185 3 года назад +107

    *I won't probably buy anything like every year, but I'll take this into consideration too. Thanks*

    • @CulturalToast
      @CulturalToast 3 года назад +2

      Why does this comment have to be in bold?

    • @raphaelc881
      @raphaelc881 3 года назад

      @@CulturalToast gtfo grammar Nazi

  • @NeedForSpeedTheRunForTheWii
    @NeedForSpeedTheRunForTheWii 3 года назад +31

    Yall ever noticed how he starts every video with "Okay!" or "Alright"? lol

  • @nab-rk4ob
    @nab-rk4ob Год назад

    Thank you. This is just the information I was looking for.

  • @archrccl
    @archrccl 2 года назад +2

    It's all about marketing strategy to confuse consumers. Not a lot of people are knowledgeable about computers and this is a gain for manufacturers to sell more since buyers makes purchase mistakes and buy again for better ones.
    This is the part where good guys comes in like you Dave , we gain a lot of ideas on your reviews and helps consumers decide wisely.
    i always learn something great on your channel.