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hello west , a few months ago i watched your videos on raw accel i actually liked it very much but as i progessed in valorant ( i was a silver , it took me 6 months to reach plat ) when i reached diamond rank ( this was before the addition of the ascendant rank ) the difficulty to aim against my enemies had become extremely overwhelming excluding factors such as movement and positioning i just experience alot of shaky aim i am left handed but use my right hand to aim with my mouce i cant shift to left handed cuz its impossible on laptop my keyboard controls become unusable . Recently ive been experiencing issues with shaky hands and when i try to aim at moving targets i dont know what happens but like my hands just become impossible to move in small movements and i just get scared and struggle alot are there like any arm exercises you can recommend and is it possible for me to progress further as a left handed player who is using his right hand on the mouse
The egg thing comes from ancient meditating instructions when holding your hands in tension it's supposed to be enough to still cradle an egg without breaking it. Read in a Tai chi book. @thricethethird
Without ever watching anyone's aim trainer or aim coaching sessions, I've just known that you're supposed to hold it as relaxed as possible. before and during games i have a little habit that I've started forming where I do a grip check to make sure there I am able to use exclusively my fingers and not my arm or my wrist to be able to move my mouse up down left right and in clockwise and counterclockwise circles while maintaining as little pressure as possible on it I try to make the circles go from really big to really small and once they're really really small I do a couple of tight circles and then switch from counterclockwise to clockwise or clockwise to counterclockwise and it really makes a big difference
also shout out to Aim labs. doin 3 different rounds of different trainers before my games every day has been making a difference. One big thing for me is if something is fun or if I did really poorly at it I will do it a couple extra times. I've been noticing that I'm starting to kick more ass in my games :)
@@Itsdeadfrostyu should just warm up in a dm or smth then when ur leaving train on aimlab, as the exercises are normally tiring and ur aim will feel slow after it
@@ldelazuI still don’t understand how people get tired while gaming, I mean I’ve been playing on a pc for 7 years now and I can’t remember my arm or hand ever getting tired while playing
Ty for this gem of information! I also noticed that especially in high tension scenarios i tend to contract all my hand muscles and my aim become much more shaky. Now i know why, thank you!
the egg technique is also in athletics! this helped me as a long distance runner. When your hand tenses up your whole body tends to do the same so if you want to be relaxed it starts in the hands. Usian Bolt has also used this method!
Maybe but you rarely wanna be in a situation where you're forced to micro adjust, but definitely a good thing to practice. Just don't put all your time into it
@@letrix7542 true. I compete in apex and I've changed my mind on the subject after hearing things from caprah way back in the voltaic discord server and mav. Close range it doesn't really matter as much, but it's still so much more important than I had thought.
I also find myself gripping the mouse really hard, especially when it's not a really good day for aiming and I keep losing my 1v1s etc so my aim gets progressively worse the harder I grip it. I read somewhere on reddit that to relax your grip, you should pick your mouse up with the least amount of strength needed to pick it up and then place it back on the mousepad and use that same amount of strength to grip it. Do it everytime you feel you're gripping your mouse too hard. It has helped me quite a bit.
the key is to relax the most (perfect: desk height + monitor height + arm resting + NO TENSION helps a LOT) - this is what I think about aiming, but anyways, even with all this wrong, the more you train, the more you have that muscle memory, so, any setup works). But in order to relax, you have to relax your mind first. Playing while anxious or fearful or while you are thinking about other things, is going to make you more tense and to mess up a lot your aiming and focus in the game). DON'T PLAY WHILE YOU ARE FEELING BAD, THIS IS GOING TO MAKE YOU PLAY WORSE (at least for me xD)
I switched my primary fire button from left click over to the shift key on the keyboard. It works fine since I use full auto weapons on the finals. If you use a click toggle on right mouse button for ads, then there is no pressing down on mouse while aiming. This helps to keep the tension at zero. It works but it takes time to get used to keeping your aim steady without the tension.
this is a huge problem for me when aiming. and it feels impossible to break the habit. for me personally i always instinctively start gripping my mouse harder when i focus but the problem is i dont notice im doing that until i stop aiming
I’ve been experimenting with mouse grips and one thing that’s probably helped me was the type of mouse I was using. Prior to my current mouse I used the death adder v3. Pretty cheap but had decent features. Switched to a Corsair mouse cause my brother had it and I liked it but I couldn’t find his so I bought the iron mouse which made it hard to grip due to its design. I had to ease up by default just so it wouldn’t hurt my fingers. I think it’s an okay mouse to start with but not a keeper im already seeing ware on it and I haven’t even had it for half a year yet vs my death adder which has been with me for 2 years and is still going strong.
im so glad i came across this video, lately ive been trying to improve my aim as im losing consistency in my games. I immediately applied that "egg" thinking strat and my aim has improved drastically already. GREAT VIDEO!!
I switched from a G502 to an Xtrfy MZ1 to an HTX Ace. Light mice are greater for aiming but it is also very important to stay flexible. Warming up your hands with stretches before your games can make a big difference and provide you with more control. Increasing tension slightly helps me when micro-adjusting because I use a knuckle-claw grip, but it's different for everyone. I noticed that I was whiffing significantly more after I stopped death gripping, however, this was just a temporary measure. After aim training for about a week or two, I started to develop fast aim that was much more precise on average. For any new aimers, I recommend trying a light mouse because heavier ones feel like they have somewhat of a skill ceiling. You can't go wrong with a light mouse.
For me, getting the grip tape helped me from having to grip so hard on a smooth plastic mouse. I recommend looking for one compatible with your mouse if it is just smooth plastic on the sides.
a big thing that fixed my aim was to stop pressing my mouse so hard against the mouse pad.. I had a light grip and never death gripped my mouse but that tension against the pad still ruined my aim.. It's crazy how the smallest shit can affect ur aim so much
I get the concept. I used to use a G303 shroud edition as my main mouse and I had an aggressive claw grip. I could never make micro adjustments well in game. When I switched over to a GPX2, my grip style changed to a relaxed claw grip and now I can make micro adjustments and also can track way better than with the g303
Trying to reduce tension is not something some gamer came up with. Musicians and athletes have been using the concept since before video games. Check tutorials on piano if you want to learn practical techniques on reducing tension
One thing I found out personally was body temperature in general affects mine and my friends aim significantly. Mainly cause if our we are cold our muscles tense to try to stay warm and if too hot we fatigue too quickly, that being said generally keeping my hands on the warmer side allow my muscles to relax easier and in turn make my aim feel smoother, something like desk heaters or even a beanbag can make your aim more consistent but not better imo also nice video I'll so hyped to try the new advices you've given in the video😂
Dang, thats crazy, my problem was so bad that i had to Double my sens, even thought im used to lower ones, but this instantly improved my microsdjustments
bro thank you so much, I was trying the exact opposite thing by grabbing my mouse as tight as possible so it feels more accurate in my mind but now aiming feels so smooth and my arm gets way less tired by grabbing it like a fragile egg. And of course more accurate. Thank youu
I have watched this video but didn`t take it too serious, for real, i thought it was just another video with same bullshit as we are used to watch however it turned to be the most useful video ever. I never thought that the tension i use would affect my gameplay that much. I really appreciate this kind of content. Thank you for it!
This video could not have been more perfectly timed. I know I have too much tension because it’s been giving me issues in the tip of my thumb as well as my index finger. So much so that it hurts to play apex. Been looking for a fix, but there’s no videos besides this one that I could find
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So the egg thing, similar to my dad teaching me golf, grip the club like it's a baby bird you're trying to keep warm without crushing.
For anybody that's thrown a baseball/football: you 'snap' and throw more accurately when you're relaxed and loose. You cannot muscle a 100 mph pitch or 50 yard throw. Same applies here.
I have been trying to fix this problem for months at this point, I actually already moved over to space bar primary fire a while ago because of the force I was exerting. In general I have a lot of geralized anxiety and the adrenalin from a fps match seems to tighten my grip and forearm muscles over time regardless of my intentions going in. Between spacebar fire and low sens I have gotten better than average with my aim, but at this point I think I will try intermittently timed alerts to tell me to relax my muscles and see if that can help train myself to relax passively.
I have been a life long console and mobile gamer.. and finally, about a month ago, I've upgraded to full blown PC gameplay and FPS. However I've ran into a issue that is.. More difficult to manage then I anticipated. Trying to learn keyboard movements with out constantly rebinding keys in games, as well as learning how to control recoil in full auto guns and make accurate micro adjustments. I'm not trying to be a pro, but I am trying to be good. Watching other people play, they control recoil as if there is none at all and it's baffling.
as an actual example of what this can do for your aim just look at loud less aim he uses literally 0 tension and has extremely impressive micro flicks and smooth aim
Looking forward to apply these tricks next time I play. I’ve improved my aiming mechanics gradually over the last 3 years but I have plateaued recently and can’t seem to reach that professional level.
Hey guys this info could be very useful yo those planning to change grips or use less tension like is recommended in this video. I believe OP made it sound too much like removing as much tension sas you can is always gonna help short of the minimum required to move your device around like you need. I dont believe this is accurate or what was intended to be communicated as such. For a little context before you consider trying what i recommend, ive been playing games on every platform my entire life. Im obsessed with peripherals, efficiency and trying/tinkering with any new or unfamiliar peripheral/methodology that comes across my desk. I also have a couple physical trainers/doctor friends with familiarity in the gaming/pro scene who i love to bounce thoughts and ideas off. TLDR: (aka less detailed rambles): I believe the overall goal here is to be as tense as is needed for the quickest responsive reaction you can have to a perceived threat as is needed. I believe your grip time will have a massive impact on all this so experiment as much as you can. (Just make sure to stay calm and relaxed, the mind needs to be comfy, empty, and ready for speed. The muscles are what will be needed to exert strength and speed reactively in a moments notice ofc.) You want to adjust for the level of stamina you will be needing, dont overdo/under-do posture here. You wanna avoid any stiffness or fatigue overall, similarly just relaxing can be the best thing to keep in mind (overall). When you feel comfortable but also ready for reacting super fast to stress and intensity you still may habit back to older thoughts/posture, remember this overall posture for your hands/arms/back etc and lock it in for everything. Work off this posture towards what you want. Relatively all you will need to do is have somewhat of a symmetrical layout between arms and then full range of your mouse' play area without moving your body/core. Ive gone so far as to creat a keyboard and keycap profile to minimize movements/shifting reaching for keys etc. Consider if you prefer having 360 degrees of motion in your play area or if you want more/less. I prefer one full rotation end to end or roughly 22cm of movement on avg. Would prefer more for shotguns and slightly less for sniping. Now try finding which exact muscles are being used reactively for aiming, do you have a wrist reset or is the resting position going to have any impact on the MS required before the game see your inputs and acts? Tense up just these muscles and work on keeping them isolated so as to not mess with the rest of your bodies posture or to have any impact on your thinking. A thought about your posture or a difference in something you do is considered an impact. Try experimenting with gum, music, and position/comfort levels overall and how it impacts your ability to balance priorities, thoughts, and emotions while playing your game. Extremely surface level conversations even with teammates can produce or enhance this effect of calmness/balance provided too. Now optimize everything with all that learned info and you should notice a very big difference, potentially more if you have adhd like me. "Details re-engaged": If you play a lot of osu you might find that tensing up the entire aim arm/muscles needed will have a massive impact on your reaction speeds and overall preparedness to react properly. Ive had my nerves measured in the past from back of neck to fingertip and was on avg 4x slower than what the avg is i should be getting. Something like 4ms instead of 1ms signals. As such i value any gains in reaction i can get and love to lean on heavy thinking/predicting to help overcompensate lol. A good example of how i spotted this was getting tested, partially because doctors testing reflexes would have to try 20 different things or give up trying to get my left to reflex. On thing i noted earlier was that I tend to prefer to play Osu(rhythm mouse/aiming game) at all without tensing up it also had an insane impact on my overall speed spinning my cursor in tiny circles around circles in osu. I wanted to build up muscle memory for my mouses play area as quickly as possible for destiny 2 and i wanted to simulate my aim especially in regards to being caught off guard or having to quickly react. The reason being i was performing significantly better on console in the same game and still do sometimes. For osu, ive since moved to using the keyboard and alternating my left index and ring like its paintball as the game becomes almost impossible to keep playing well via mouse and M1 only. I still keep my right arm tense while utilizing my moveable right arm wrest as a pivot with bearings in it. Similarly my arm and M1 both do the same, right click is constantly held/tense if not tense at a minimum 2hil3 playing. As A somewhat reliable metric for comparison before and after playing osu. I went from an avg K+A/D of barely breaking even with lots of assists in destiny to getrting lots of kills and an overall KA/D of 2.5:1 if not higher. So say 24 kills with around 4 or 5 deaths, i wasn't keeping track of exact assists manually as much as im still used to using K/D not KDA let alone KAD. But the game output KAD values just to make sure i mentioned that. This was all in roughly a 3 month time period with no changes to my regular setup/peripherals/sensitivity or anything. This was all while using my mouse on Osu with only M1 clicks via my index. I roughly played 40-60 odd mins per day before hopping on my shooter for the night nearly every day during this time period. Keep in mind ive been playing shooter relatively poorly but well enough to enjoy since i first picked up half life 2 when it first came out. I had played CS1.6 a few times with no clue what i was doing before all that and getting CSS. Ive got leagues better game-sense/muscle-memory on console with bungie style super aggressive aim assists or none at all if a given game provides that option and has bad assist otherwise. Finally ive also been playing without any level of "enhanced precision/aim acceleration" since say 2005 and if you give me something that has aim deceleration i cant turn off i just wont play your game lol. Sniper in games im looking at you especially. Inconsistent aim related setting are the devil! Just let me have my standard 22cm 360 rotation on all scope levels w 90 fov pls 😂
Considering this is such a big problem, I'm surprised that I actually don't do this, I hold my mouse rather lightly, as if its part of my hand itself, fits perfectly
The real question is how you're using an hsk pro without grip tape at least on the lmb. The small holes and slickness exactly where most people (including you) put your finger to click are so bad.
the egg thing worked the second you said it. most the video i was holding my mouse trying to figure out if i hold it too hard or not. as soon as you said the egg thing my fingers lightened up.
I've always had "calm aim" a carry over from wing chun where economy of motion is a major factor. The fastest path from a-b is usually best, I've wondered to my self if there is a point where you can be to calm?
I will have to try fragile egg. I noticed my aiming with my mouse is much less shaky when my hand tension is low, so I’ve been telling myself “cat paws” while playing fps. I’ve noticed that when my cat attacks me, there’s no tension in his paws at all, hardly any force from the elbow and down, but his paws are deadly and don’t miss their mark 😂 I also use a glass mousepad with glass skates so that exacerbates the shaking. Lots of people say don’t do it, but it has helped me use less force pushing down on the mouse and has helped me calm my hand considerably. Been on that for about a year. I’m gonna try going back to ptfe soon. Before going glass on glass I was eating through ptfe skates in 2 weeks or less on the glass pad 😅
I press my left click with the force of angry 41 gorillas without noticing it and have broken every mouse I’ve used within 90 days. Just bought super light 2
Actually, the egg example maybe inspired from a film called Shaolin Soccor, where the coach tells his student to juggle with the egg, without breaking it.
I think part of the reason why shooting with left click is better in valorant is that you can pull your mouse on a spray with your finger. With some practice you can always adjust your initial 4 bullets (I think the first 4 is still controllable, not sure about the 5th shot) to hit almost the same spot, meaning 4 bullet burst will kill someone if you can hit it all. Depending on how you grip the mouse (probably not applicable to palm grip user) you can just drag the shot with your finger downward, though if I'm being honest a situation where you would burst all 4 bullet probably don't exist too much. Also I wonder is it better to have a heavy mouse / a light mouse? I really favor the heavy mouse since sometimes I found myself in a situation where I lose the gunfight because of a very stupid reason, that is somehow I lifted the back of the mouse on my spray. I deal with it by aiming mostly on my fingertips but it makes accidental grip like that so much troublesome
Aiming with finger tips definitely is helped by a light mouse. Your specific issue idrk id practice a bit more and experiment with a few more shapes as light mice are starting to diversify. As for the first comment, shooting with space is a way to feel a lower level of tension not a permanent solution. My editor did the settings change in val though it was meant for kvks and seemed to insignificant to change it where he went right to a scen right after
Not really. I would argue a higher sensitivity makes a player use more force since it's going to make it harder to keep the mouse in control otherwise.
I cant seem to break this habbit no matter what. Spent my entire life using a tight grip, its gotten me to top ranks but noticing im getting hand injuried now because of this grip, hopefully the egg comparison will help me.
I had the same issue with my finger pressure down the Mouse1 button too hard and i simply switched my M1 with M2... now I shoot with right click and zoom with M1. Problem solved... turns out I have have nerve better control over my middle finger and I can click without force.
I recently started keyboard and mouse. These videos help a lot, however im having problems moving left for some reason do you have any videos on how you should move the mouse around the pad.
you likely grip your mouse in a way that only the pinky touches the left apply a shit ton of tension and then have to balance that with only force from your pinky
This is a great video and I know many people this would benefit. I personally use a lightweight mouse and a (mostly) fingertip grip, so I tend to hold it very lightly. I've actually had the opposite problem during aim training, where I get lazy and don't click the button hard enough to fire. In game, I keep it pretty loose, probably because of the AimLabs I've done. All of that is to say, I'm still quite mediocre in game. I just think my technique isn't necessarily my problem at this point, it's more my anxiety and mental game
I don't do this but my mousepad is couple years old and i never deepcleaned it bc it has RGB in it so my mouse doesn't wanna glide smoothly over the pad causing me to have jittery aim
HaiiI! :) I love your videos, you helped me alot! Can you give me recommendations on big mousepad for low sensitivity? I currently have a glorious 3XL or so, it has to be BIG
That happens to me too it looks like I have the same mouse as him too. Wonder if it’s the shape, weight, sensor position etc that is creating the effect
I stopped the document system a while ago in favor of copying rA Unans and making notes in dms. Meaning that to see the notes you just gotta go to the end of the vod on the live channel.
I'll be playing pretty well in aimlabs and then when I move over to valorant ill be terrible and aiming/holding my mouse the same way I do when I play aimlabs doesn't work at all on valorant (for ex: having my arm very relaxed helps for aimlabs but I whiff insanely hard on valorant when playing like that).
Either bad scenarios or you don't apply your techniques properly and end up panicking/deciding something didn't work bc you died once/subconsciously handpicking evidence to support a claim.
As a fortnite player who switched to tac-fps, as soon as you mentioned pressure into the mouse and tensing muscles i knew this video would help. ive always struggled with shaky aim
Hey guys, since this video is growing, I just want to let everyone know my coaching is available at gamercoach.gg: gamercoach.gg/coaches/kovaaks/West%20Proter
Cool free month of professional valorant coaching from Gosu Academy using my link: gosuacademy.com/pages/valorant-free?sca_ref=5918174.s2S26GD0ks
hello west , a few months ago i watched your videos on raw accel i actually liked it very much but as i progessed in valorant ( i was a silver , it took me 6 months to reach plat ) when i reached diamond rank ( this was before the addition of the ascendant rank ) the difficulty to aim against my enemies had become extremely overwhelming excluding factors such as movement and positioning i just experience alot of shaky aim i am left handed but use my right hand to aim with my mouce i cant shift to left handed cuz its impossible on laptop my keyboard controls become unusable . Recently ive been experiencing issues with shaky hands and when i try to aim at moving targets i dont know what happens but like my hands just become impossible to move in small movements and i just get scared and struggle alot are there like any arm exercises you can recommend and is it possible for me to progress further as a left handed player who is using his right hand on the mouse
The egg thing comes from ancient meditating instructions when holding your hands in tension it's supposed to be enough to still cradle an egg without breaking it. Read in a Tai chi book. @thricethethird
Even now the egg strat is brilliant, always helps me keep my tension low when I subconsciously tense up in high action scenarios.
Without ever watching anyone's aim trainer or aim coaching sessions, I've just known that you're supposed to hold it as relaxed as possible. before and during games i have a little habit that I've started forming where I do a grip check to make sure there I am able to use exclusively my fingers and not my arm or my wrist to be able to move my mouse up down left right and in clockwise and counterclockwise circles while maintaining as little pressure as possible on it I try to make the circles go from really big to really small and once they're really really small I do a couple of tight circles and then switch from counterclockwise to clockwise or clockwise to counterclockwise and it really makes a big difference
also shout out to Aim labs. doin 3 different rounds of different trainers before my games every day has been making a difference. One big thing for me is if something is fun or if I did really poorly at it I will do it a couple extra times. I've been noticing that I'm starting to kick more ass in my games :)
@@Itsdeadfrostyu should just warm up in a dm or smth then when ur leaving train on aimlab, as the exercises are normally tiring and ur aim will feel slow after it
@@ldelazuI still don’t understand how people get tired while gaming, I mean I’ve been playing on a pc for 7 years now and I can’t remember my arm or hand ever getting tired while playing
Ty for this gem of information! I also noticed that especially in high tension scenarios i tend to contract all my hand muscles and my aim become much more shaky.
Now i know why, thank you!
the egg technique is also in athletics! this helped me as a long distance runner. When your hand tenses up your whole body tends to do the same so if you want to be relaxed it starts in the hands. Usian Bolt has also used this method!
I think this might be a big part of my aim issues and why my micro adjustments are bad thank you :)
you are welcome
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Maybe but you rarely wanna be in a situation where you're forced to micro adjust, but definitely a good thing to practice. Just don't put all your time into it
@@Temper_apexdepends on the game if you play apex its insanely important
@@letrix7542 true. I compete in apex and I've changed my mind on the subject after hearing things from caprah way back in the voltaic discord server and mav. Close range it doesn't really matter as much, but it's still so much more important than I had thought.
I also find myself gripping the mouse really hard, especially when it's not a really good day for aiming and I keep losing my 1v1s etc so my aim gets progressively worse the harder I grip it. I read somewhere on reddit that to relax your grip, you should pick your mouse up with the least amount of strength needed to pick it up and then place it back on the mousepad and use that same amount of strength to grip it. Do it everytime you feel you're gripping your mouse too hard. It has helped me quite a bit.
the key is to relax the most (perfect: desk height + monitor height + arm resting + NO TENSION helps a LOT) - this is what I think about aiming, but anyways, even with all this wrong, the more you train, the more you have that muscle memory, so, any setup works). But in order to relax, you have to relax your mind first. Playing while anxious or fearful or while you are thinking about other things, is going to make you more tense and to mess up a lot your aiming and focus in the game). DON'T PLAY WHILE YOU ARE FEELING BAD, THIS IS GOING TO MAKE YOU PLAY WORSE (at least for me xD)
I switched my primary fire button from left click over to the shift key on the keyboard. It works fine since I use full auto weapons on the finals. If you use a click toggle on right mouse button for ads, then there is no pressing down on mouse while aiming. This helps to keep the tension at zero. It works but it takes time to get used to keeping your aim steady without the tension.
this is a huge problem for me when aiming. and it feels impossible to break the habit. for me personally i always instinctively start gripping my mouse harder when i focus but the problem is i dont notice im doing that until i stop aiming
I’ve been experimenting with mouse grips and one thing that’s probably helped me was the type of mouse I was using. Prior to my current mouse I used the death adder v3. Pretty cheap but had decent features. Switched to a Corsair mouse cause my brother had it and I liked it but I couldn’t find his so I bought the iron mouse which made it hard to grip due to its design. I had to ease up by default just so it wouldn’t hurt my fingers. I think it’s an okay mouse to start with but not a keeper im already seeing ware on it and I haven’t even had it for half a year yet vs my death adder which has been with me for 2 years and is still going strong.
im so glad i came across this video, lately ive been trying to improve my aim as im losing consistency in my games. I immediately applied that "egg" thinking strat and my aim has improved drastically already. GREAT VIDEO!!
I switched from a G502 to an Xtrfy MZ1 to an HTX Ace. Light mice are greater for aiming but it is also very important to stay flexible. Warming up your hands with stretches before your games can make a big difference and provide you with more control. Increasing tension slightly helps me when micro-adjusting because I use a knuckle-claw grip, but it's different for everyone. I noticed that I was whiffing significantly more after I stopped death gripping, however, this was just a temporary measure. After aim training for about a week or two, I started to develop fast aim that was much more precise on average. For any new aimers, I recommend trying a light mouse because heavier ones feel like they have somewhat of a skill ceiling. You can't go wrong with a light mouse.
For me, getting the grip tape helped me from having to grip so hard on a smooth plastic mouse. I recommend looking for one compatible with your mouse if it is just smooth plastic on the sides.
a big thing that fixed my aim was to stop pressing my mouse so hard against the mouse pad.. I had a light grip and never death gripped my mouse but that tension against the pad still ruined my aim.. It's crazy how the smallest shit can affect ur aim so much
Thats really a helpful video.. I didn't expect that secret information.. great video buddy.
Not much of a secret
For someone who starts playing kbm it is@@WestProter
I get the concept. I used to use a G303 shroud edition as my main mouse and I had an aggressive claw grip. I could never make micro adjustments well in game. When I switched over to a GPX2, my grip style changed to a relaxed claw grip and now I can make micro adjustments and also can track way better than with the g303
Trying to reduce tension is not something some gamer came up with. Musicians and athletes have been using the concept since before video games. Check tutorials on piano if you want to learn practical techniques on reducing tension
I spent past few weeks trying to figure out similar issue, i finally got it solved recently and today i got recommended this vid lmao
This was me some time ago as a former g502 user. Luckily I found your content and similar and learned to be relaxed and smooth
One thing I found out personally was body temperature in general affects mine and my friends aim significantly. Mainly cause if our we are cold our muscles tense to try to stay warm and if too hot we fatigue too quickly, that being said generally keeping my hands on the warmer side allow my muscles to relax easier and in turn make my aim feel smoother, something like desk heaters or even a beanbag can make your aim more consistent but not better imo also nice video I'll so hyped to try the new advices you've given in the video😂
Dang, thats crazy, my problem was so bad that i had to Double my sens, even thought im used to lower ones, but this instantly improved my microsdjustments
I see you, showing off your muscles man, it’s looking good!
bro thank you so much, I was trying the exact opposite thing by grabbing my mouse as tight as possible so it feels more accurate in my mind but now aiming feels so smooth and my arm gets way less tired by grabbing it like a fragile egg. And of course more accurate. Thank youu
I have watched this video but didn`t take it too serious, for real, i thought it was just another video with same bullshit as we are used to watch however it turned to be the most useful video ever. I never thought that the tension i use would affect my gameplay that much. I really appreciate this kind of content. Thank you for it!
If you are a fortnite player like me find a good sens and if it moves like fortnite divide by 1.5 and you will get a good slow sens
This video could not have been more perfectly timed. I know I have too much tension because it’s been giving me issues in the tip of my thumb as well as my index finger. So much so that it hurts to play apex. Been looking for a fix, but there’s no videos besides this one that I could find
So the egg thing, similar to my dad teaching me golf, grip the club like it's a baby bird you're trying to keep warm without crushing.
For anybody that's thrown a baseball/football: you 'snap' and throw more accurately when you're relaxed and loose. You cannot muscle a 100 mph pitch or 50 yard throw. Same applies here.
I have been trying to fix this problem for months at this point, I actually already moved over to space bar primary fire a while ago because of the force I was exerting. In general I have a lot of geralized anxiety and the adrenalin from a fps match seems to tighten my grip and forearm muscles over time regardless of my intentions going in. Between spacebar fire and low sens I have gotten better than average with my aim, but at this point I think I will try intermittently timed alerts to tell me to relax my muscles and see if that can help train myself to relax passively.
I have been a life long console and mobile gamer.. and finally, about a month ago, I've upgraded to full blown PC gameplay and FPS.
However I've ran into a issue that is.. More difficult to manage then I anticipated.
Trying to learn keyboard movements with out constantly rebinding keys in games, as well as learning how to control recoil in full auto guns and make accurate micro adjustments.
I'm not trying to be a pro, but I am trying to be good. Watching other people play, they control recoil as if there is none at all and it's baffling.
My hands are too big to hold my mouse properly
Oh I know my tension is bad sometimes I think my mouse is gonna break from slamming down on my left click to shoot 😢
as an actual example of what this can do for your aim just look at loud less aim he uses literally 0 tension and has extremely impressive micro flicks and smooth aim
this immediately improved my tracking scores on aim labs
The vest way is to think hold the mouse with the least amount of force necessary
good to see you uploading again!
Every 3 weeks until 2024
@@WestProter hell ya, looking forward to it man. Been missing ur uploads
Looking forward to apply these tricks next time I play. I’ve improved my aiming mechanics gradually over the last 3 years but I have plateaued recently and can’t seem to reach that professional level.
This is cool , what is the small orange mouse sometimes in clips?
Hey guys this info could be very useful yo those planning to change grips or use less tension like is recommended in this video.
I believe OP made it sound too much like removing as much tension sas you can is always gonna help short of the minimum required to move your device around like you need.
I dont believe this is accurate or what was intended to be communicated as such.
For a little context before you consider trying what i recommend, ive been playing games on every platform my entire life. Im obsessed with peripherals, efficiency and trying/tinkering with any new or unfamiliar peripheral/methodology that comes across my desk. I also have a couple physical trainers/doctor friends with familiarity in the gaming/pro scene who i love to bounce thoughts and ideas off.
TLDR: (aka less detailed rambles):
I believe the overall goal here is to be as tense as is needed for the quickest responsive reaction you can have to a perceived threat as is needed.
I believe your grip time will have a massive impact on all this so experiment as much as you can.
(Just make sure to stay calm and relaxed, the mind needs to be comfy, empty, and ready for speed. The muscles are what will be needed to exert strength and speed reactively in a moments notice ofc.)
You want to adjust for the level of stamina you will be needing, dont overdo/under-do posture here. You wanna avoid any stiffness or fatigue overall, similarly just relaxing can be the best thing to keep in mind (overall). When you feel comfortable but also ready for reacting super fast to stress and intensity you still may habit back to older thoughts/posture, remember this overall posture for your hands/arms/back etc and lock it in for everything.
Work off this posture towards what you want. Relatively all you will need to do is have somewhat of a symmetrical layout between arms and then full range of your mouse' play area without moving your body/core. Ive gone so far as to creat a keyboard and keycap profile to minimize movements/shifting reaching for keys etc.
Consider if you prefer having 360 degrees of motion in your play area or if you want more/less. I prefer one full rotation end to end or roughly 22cm of movement on avg. Would prefer more for shotguns and slightly less for sniping.
Now try finding which exact muscles are being used reactively for aiming, do you have a wrist reset or is the resting position going to have any impact on the MS required before the game see your inputs and acts?
Tense up just these muscles and work on keeping them isolated so as to not mess with the rest of your bodies posture or to have any impact on your thinking. A thought about your posture or a difference in something you do is considered an impact.
Try experimenting with gum, music, and position/comfort levels overall and how it impacts your ability to balance priorities, thoughts, and emotions while playing your game. Extremely surface level conversations even with teammates can produce or enhance this effect of calmness/balance provided too.
Now optimize everything with all that learned info and you should notice a very big difference, potentially more if you have adhd like me.
"Details re-engaged":
If you play a lot of osu you might find that tensing up the entire aim arm/muscles needed will have a massive impact on your reaction speeds and overall preparedness to react properly.
Ive had my nerves measured in the past from back of neck to fingertip and was on avg 4x slower than what the avg is i should be getting.
Something like 4ms instead of 1ms signals. As such i value any gains in reaction i can get and love to lean on heavy thinking/predicting to help overcompensate lol.
A good example of how i spotted this was getting tested, partially because doctors testing reflexes would have to try 20 different things or give up trying to get my left to reflex.
On thing i noted earlier was that I tend to prefer to play Osu(rhythm mouse/aiming game) at all without tensing up it also had an insane impact on my overall speed spinning my cursor in tiny circles around circles in osu. I wanted to build up muscle memory for my mouses play area as quickly as possible for destiny 2 and i wanted to simulate my aim especially in regards to being caught off guard or having to quickly react. The reason being i was performing significantly better on console in the same game and still do sometimes.
For osu, ive since moved to using the keyboard and alternating my left index and ring like its paintball as the game becomes almost impossible to keep playing well via mouse and M1 only. I still keep my right arm tense while utilizing my moveable right arm wrest as a pivot with bearings in it. Similarly my arm and M1 both do the same, right click is constantly held/tense if not tense at a minimum 2hil3 playing.
As A somewhat reliable metric for comparison before and after playing osu. I went from an avg K+A/D of barely breaking even with lots of assists in destiny to getrting lots of kills and an overall KA/D of 2.5:1 if not higher. So say 24 kills with around 4 or 5 deaths, i wasn't keeping track of exact assists manually as much as im still used to using K/D not KDA let alone KAD. But the game output KAD values just to make sure i mentioned that.
This was all in roughly a 3 month time period with no changes to my regular setup/peripherals/sensitivity or anything. This was all while using my mouse on Osu with only M1 clicks via my index. I roughly played 40-60 odd mins per day before hopping on my shooter for the night nearly every day during this time period.
Keep in mind ive been playing shooter relatively poorly but well enough to enjoy since i first picked up half life 2 when it first came out. I had played CS1.6 a few times with no clue what i was doing before all that and getting CSS. Ive got leagues better game-sense/muscle-memory on console with bungie style super aggressive aim assists or none at all if a given game provides that option and has bad assist otherwise.
Finally ive also been playing without any level of "enhanced precision/aim acceleration" since say 2005 and if you give me something that has aim deceleration i cant turn off i just wont play your game lol. Sniper in games im looking at you especially. Inconsistent aim related setting are the devil! Just let me have my standard 22cm 360 rotation on all scope levels w 90 fov pls 😂
i tense up so much i literally start shaking lmfao
I claw grip hard as fuck and I think its to compensate for micro adjustments decided subconsciously so i don't over flick
My Skypad arrived intakt, I imagine it would survive shipping even in rough hands.
It does that was comedy.
Good Joke though :)
the link of Buckshot in your description is broken. Can you update?
because of that i literally broke my g pro superlight scroll because i was squeezing and pressing hard lol now i don’t squeeze and it works wonders
Considering this is such a big problem, I'm surprised that I actually don't do this, I hold my mouse rather lightly, as if its part of my hand itself, fits perfectly
The real question is how you're using an hsk pro without grip tape at least on the lmb. The small holes and slickness exactly where most people (including you) put your finger to click are so bad.
i death grip too. I usually hit insane flicks but miss when it comes to micro adjustments.
the egg thing worked the second you said it. most the video i was holding my mouse trying to figure out if i hold it too hard or not. as soon as you said the egg thing my fingers lightened up.
Seeing the mouse i used get destroyed kills me 💀
Amazing video thank you
I've always had "calm aim" a carry over from wing chun where economy of motion is a major factor.
The fastest path from a-b is usually best, I've wondered to my self if there is a point where you can be to calm?
@struth or @optimum have a very good vid on tension as well.
I just clicked on this video and in the first few seconds my issue was solved
ergo mice help your hand cover more surface on the mouse itself making aiming more stable for people with larger hands like me.
I've explained why this logic is flawed in more depth in previous videos. Unless you play fortnite, that's different.
I will have to try fragile egg. I noticed my aiming with my mouse is much less shaky when my hand tension is low, so I’ve been telling myself “cat paws” while playing fps. I’ve noticed that when my cat attacks me, there’s no tension in his paws at all, hardly any force from the elbow and down, but his paws are deadly and don’t miss their mark 😂
I also use a glass mousepad with glass skates so that exacerbates the shaking. Lots of people say don’t do it, but it has helped me use less force pushing down on the mouse and has helped me calm my hand considerably. Been on that for about a year. I’m gonna try going back to ptfe soon. Before going glass on glass I was eating through ptfe skates in 2 weeks or less on the glass pad 😅
Hii! I just wanted to say thanks for your videos, you've improved my aim a lot with your advice so thank you :))
Awesome vid all of it specialy bucks guide genuine for aiming techs!💪🐐
I press my left click with the force of angry 41 gorillas without noticing it and have broken every mouse I’ve used within 90 days. Just bought super light 2
Actually, the egg example maybe inspired from a film called Shaolin Soccor, where the coach tells his student to juggle with the egg, without breaking it.
Interesting take.
Eggs are used for a way to imagine way before that.
I know I'm wrong but I really like to pretend that your mouse is normal sized and that you have absolutely GIGA big hands :)
Wouldn't it be crazy if someone like Razer made a mouse that could lower DPI based on how tight you grip the mouse?
This is the issue im having and I picked up on it on my own. But I haven't been able to fully fix it. I'ma try some of your methods.
Who the hell holds their mouse like this????? 1:29
i´m going crazy trying to find a mouse grip
I think part of the reason why shooting with left click is better in valorant is that you can pull your mouse on a spray with your finger. With some practice you can always adjust your initial 4 bullets (I think the first 4 is still controllable, not sure about the 5th shot) to hit almost the same spot, meaning 4 bullet burst will kill someone if you can hit it all. Depending on how you grip the mouse (probably not applicable to palm grip user) you can just drag the shot with your finger downward, though if I'm being honest a situation where you would burst all 4 bullet probably don't exist too much.
Also I wonder is it better to have a heavy mouse / a light mouse? I really favor the heavy mouse since sometimes I found myself in a situation where I lose the gunfight because of a very stupid reason, that is somehow I lifted the back of the mouse on my spray. I deal with it by aiming mostly on my fingertips but it makes accidental grip like that so much troublesome
Aiming with finger tips definitely is helped by a light mouse. Your specific issue idrk id practice a bit more and experiment with a few more shapes as light mice are starting to diversify. As for the first comment, shooting with space is a way to feel a lower level of tension not a permanent solution. My editor did the settings change in val though it was meant for kvks and seemed to insignificant to change it where he went right to a scen right after
It's also depend on the sensitivity. The slower the sens the more forces u have to put on the mouse when controling it
Not really. I would argue a higher sensitivity makes a player use more force since it's going to make it harder to keep the mouse in control otherwise.
If I loosen my grip my arm starts to hurt so fast
I cant seem to break this habbit no matter what. Spent my entire life using a tight grip, its gotten me to top ranks but noticing im getting hand injuried now because of this grip, hopefully the egg comparison will help me.
it help so much. Now i aim with my fingers. not claw
the egg strat didn't work for me, i still tense a lot in game
When you feel yourself tensing relax
Try plugging an actual egg into your PC
u really help me thank you bro omg
Coming from a music background, no I dont overly tense my mouse. (nvm I do, but I pay a huge attention not to)
there is no working link on Bucks guide in ur description, pls give new?
I had the same issue with my finger pressure down the Mouse1 button too hard and i simply switched my M1 with M2... now I shoot with right click and zoom with M1. Problem solved... turns out I have have nerve better control over my middle finger and I can click without force.
Ty for the egg tipp
Whenever you say muscles, I get PTSD of people saying muscle memory.
West Proter is my gaming psychologist.
Yes
LOL @ the guy left clicking with his boot.
that teeny mouse is insane lol
I recently started keyboard and mouse. These videos help a lot, however im having problems moving left for some reason do you have any videos on how you should move the mouse around the pad.
you likely grip your mouse in a way that only the pinky touches the left apply a shit ton of tension and then have to balance that with only force from your pinky
This is a great video and I know many people this would benefit. I personally use a lightweight mouse and a (mostly) fingertip grip, so I tend to hold it very lightly. I've actually had the opposite problem during aim training, where I get lazy and don't click the button hard enough to fire. In game, I keep it pretty loose, probably because of the AimLabs I've done.
All of that is to say, I'm still quite mediocre in game. I just think my technique isn't necessarily my problem at this point, it's more my anxiety and mental game
I don't do this but my mousepad is couple years old and i never deepcleaned it bc it has RGB in it so my mouse doesn't wanna glide smoothly over the pad causing me to have jittery aim
also where your mouse quality may be shown my g pro takes way less force to click over my razer viper
do u got any tips on using ads multipliers or staying 1:1 hipfire/ads?
It’s basically just a different sens and fov so don’t worry abt it
HaiiI! :) I love your videos, you helped me alot!
Can you give me recommendations on big mousepad for low sensitivity? I currently have a glorious 3XL or so, it has to be BIG
That’s what I use
Okey! Thank you!
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you!
What is that tiny mouse holy
That happens to me too it looks like I have the same mouse as him too. Wonder if it’s the shape, weight, sensor position etc that is creating the effect
i cant get out of using 1 3 1 grip... and i reallly struggle with having my ring finger on the side of the mouse :P
Coming from a medical student, your physics/physiology/psychology explanations were awesome. New sub 👍🏼
I only hold my mouse tight is because of stress...
Don’t stress
@@WestProter yeah , no shit 😁 In my way to be focused I stress myself to the point of holding my mouse too tight...
Now ik im screwed cuz this doesnt apply to me💀
goddamn you hand is big
um is link to his document still avaliable? dont see it in the info
Yeah same
I stopped the document system a while ago in favor of copying rA Unans and making notes in dms. Meaning that to see the notes you just gotta go to the end of the vod on the live channel.
@@WestProter this is for VT Buck's document?
@@monstwrclaw7964 yea sorry i didnt specify much
Ohhh shoot forgot abt rbat
Question for mnk players when using wasd do you guys use your Pinky for cntrl and shift button on the left?
Thats why i switched to fingertip, i can relax and microadjust so much better
Nice!
nice i needed this video
I actually don't have this habit, since valorant is my first fps game, so i just hold the mouse as comfortably as i can 😅
Every mouse out there is tiny i cant hold it unless i apply pressure that bends the plastic.
Calm your hand. You do not need to bend a mouse to secure it
every mouse out there is made for 3 fingers not 5 i just can't play.@@WestProter
I'll be playing pretty well in aimlabs and then when I move over to valorant ill be terrible and aiming/holding my mouse the same way I do when I play aimlabs doesn't work at all on valorant (for ex: having my arm very relaxed helps for aimlabs but I whiff insanely hard on valorant when playing like that).
Either bad scenarios or you don't apply your techniques properly and end up panicking/deciding something didn't work bc you died once/subconsciously handpicking evidence to support a claim.
As a fortnite player who switched to tac-fps, as soon as you mentioned pressure into the mouse and tensing muscles i knew this video would help. ive always struggled with shaky aim
Amazing