How Pipistrel Builds Electric Airplanes
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- Slovenia-based Pipistrel is the only company currently marketing an electric training aircraft. In this AVweb video, Paul Bertorelli visited the factories in both Slovenia and Italy to learn how the airplanes are made.
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Thanks Paul. That's a lot of really clean and well organized final assembly space there.
the fact that even 4 years ago a production plane like this would be fantasy, and we're able to fly them now, is amazing. I can't wait to find out if the combustion engine is becoming antiquated
Did not know this existed, but I love it. Thanks RUclips recommendations.
still about nothing
Thank you for insightful videos, Paul. Your videos tend to ask the right questions and show the right stuff and for that I am thankful. Keep up the good work!
Really love this aircraft, thanks for the tour👍🏼
Since the weight will not change during flight the profiles of wings and contol surfaces can be optimised for that weight.
@Viscous Shear i don't think you really understand how airplanes work
@Viscous Shear Useless weight? That's no way to talk about your passengers.
Flew the plane at factory when it first came out, what a beauty. Sounds like your in washing machine. Just all prop noise.
Lower vibrations and lower noise mean less stress for the pilot
@@blackturbine This very nice , Welcome to Brazil, in Brazil its so virgin about cleanner energy and eletricar also Eletric arplane .....
This so amazing eletric arplane ....
Welcome to Brazil....
Talk to me , i m know everything about Brazilian Lower bussines in Brazil South america ....
BOA TARDE ! VOCÊS PASSARAM PARA OUTRO NÍVEL. É DISSO ESTAMOS PRECISANDO. O MUNDO QUER TECNOLOGIA E VOCÊS ESTÃO NA PONTA .PARABÉNS.
Im from slovenia and this guys accent has me in tears xD
This just makes my day when I see another report by PB
Francis Molloy Give him a child Francis!
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Fantastic! very nice aircraft
The future, ladies and gentlemen.
Quality content.
Very Neat Looking Aircraft! Looks well manufactured, If they could get the flying time to one hour over 400 knots .....imagine that
I wonder how fast the increased purchase price pays off without yearly engine overhauls... and once the battery tech is transformed soon-ish, then these will really take off!
One day when lithium air battery (similar energy per kg as gasoline)
Becomes affordable
We will have electric airplanes that fly faster and longer than piston/turbo prop aircraft
This very nice , Welcome to Brazil, in Brazil its so virgin about cleanner energy and eletricar also Eletric arplane .....
This so amazing eletric arplane ....
Welcome to Brazil....
Talk to me , i m know everything about Brazilian Lower bussines in Brazil South america ....
My next adventure, Slovenia !!
amazingly innovative.
Beautiful
The electric planes are super cool and may be by far the safest mode of travel
Why is it so safe?
Thank you for this glimpse into the excellent factory making these great little planes.
Although I think a Rotax engine is about as good as it can get in one of these aircraft, I have to accept the growing trend towards electric powered planes.
A fifty minute flight endurance doesn't sound that great, but in time, it'll no doubt become even longer.
I accept your constructive criticism and take heed to those instructions. Maybe we can work together and I'll put you as my Administrator huh
Good reporting
very good job .....
So amazing
Show , seria uma boa ideia um mini helicóptero de duas pessoas com sistema elétrico ,ficaria top e cada vez mais segurança no vôo e também em caso de emergência
Pipistrel is a company that will further flourish due to it's innovative thinking, planning and capable management.
Yep. Thank god the Slovenian economy will need it after the covid is done. China just ordered 1000 pilotless planes worth of 1 bilion euros.
Great !!
Tudo feito com carinho
Nice
oh my God I'd like to work in your Business with Building aír Craft!! thank you very much to the Thell video!
That factory ... wow ... clean, neat and organized. My son is a consulting engineer who travels to China once in a while on a project. He said that several small vehicle development and assembly plants that he visited were damned scary. Besides being a shambles, they are dangerous for the workers. He was appalled by the lack of concern for safety.
I want one.
I want to know what's going on with the Panthera.
ALTA TECNOLOGIA , BRASIL OK.
How quickly can the aircraft travel when the battery is being discharged over the course of 50 minutes?
the flying manual is publicly available and lists the max endurance speed
See electric powered aircraft as the way of the future being safer, environmentally friendly and much quieter than conventionally powered aircraft. Higher efficiency batteries for increased range the biggest limiting factor should only improve as they've done in the automotive field. Highest ranked car on the market now is a Tesla and for good reasons.
Looks like a flight design
Job aachey
This would be really cool once the solar & wind generation technology free falls in price. You could let it charge during the week and enjoy a nice Sunday morning flight.
Pipistrel, please do a 4 place single based on the Rotax 915Is with a MTOW of around 900kg.
kinda dumb question... do they have... regenerative braking?
No. Nor do they have regenerative BRAKING. Brakes brake cars, planes, flywheels, even horse-drawn carriages, regenerative or not. Breaks are what you have when you need a break from the crappy spoiling the skools teech these days, and it BREAKS my heart.
But a good question I think, is it worth the weight penalty of whatever is necessary to recover battery power from a descending aircraft, like you might be at the absolute limits of battery exhaustion but you need to go around again?
@@DavidOfWhitehills Sorry. I'm not a native speaker and I often got it wrong despite knowing what the differences are.
Just a distraction.
@@yosyp5905 Ok you got me, I can only speak good english and bad french - most people in this world can speak many more languages than me. I apologise.
@@DavidOfWhitehills It's ok mate ;)
@BananaPeal0 it wouldn't spin backwards, just create some resistance, which ICE already have for internal friction
Consider saltwater batteries 3 times more power by the same weight.
Lithium is Out. Swiss companies developed those batteries.
B.S.! Lithium is not out yet. Where did you get the numbers about power density? Actually, saltwater batteries are a lot heavier than Li batteries.
A plane that only can fly for less than an hour, then must be recharged for an hour is not appealing to me. They need to greatly increase flight time and reduce recharge time. In the interim maybe they could offer affordable quick-change battery packs so your downtime is only 15 minutes.
you can also change batteries. but otherwise this is a trainer aircraft anyway.
Colonel K
Or you could stick with the internal combustion engine powered aeroplane.
With the heartwarming knowledge that you aren't using such dirty technology as battery power.
@@bipolatelly9806 Batteries are dirty in the sense that they need to be charged by some other other power source, and when they wear out, disposal becomes something of a problem. Their main problems right now are size, weight, cost, and inefficiency. These can be mitigated to a degree by using more advanced material designs, but the inefficiency can never be fully overcome.
Colonel K
How about dirty lies re. the weather?
@@bipolatelly9806 I did not understand your question.
Paper travelers allow for on the fly side note, to help the next guy with a part that needs more attention.
Can that not go in the ongoing dossier, and then everyone sees it?
What is the realistic range?
Probably about an hour of flight time
At what speed... or what distance that could be covered by this amazing electric plane..
@@hesbornayub3813 the video said about 50minutes of flight time. So not much
About 80 miles, according to the flight manual.
Very interesting. Although its poor performance, it's nice to see that you can be environmentally friendly in the air today. I'm looking forward to future improvements.
Electric is not about being environmentally friendly. It's about cost of training primarily.
If environmental issues were priority, then everyone should focus on deleting lead from avgas.
@@daszieher Well, I hope some day in the next future solid state batteries will be widely available and this clean technology will not be relegated only to flying schools. I don't think I'll see it, there's still a long way to go.
daszieher noise pollution might also be an issue. Electric planes are much quieter .
@@jdavison8551 Yeah, Electric airplanes are much better ambassadors for an airport.
I guess they wouldn’t do well for short military missions where quietness is needed eh!
That Pipistrel just screams: Place "Austro-Diesel" here.
How much are they$
Where is a parachute?
I recently came across james asquith's video where he lands his aircraft in an african forest.
Electric drone technologies.
very nice. This is the future, and I'm looking forwards to it. Have been driving electric cars for last 4 years - and will never go back to gas. Time to change airplane culture. People associate noise with power - I welcome you to take a test drive in any electric car - and you'll find your gas clunker obsolete and slow.
You can't have power without energy and batteries simply don't store enough energy to supply a significant amount of power for a long period of time.
PistonAvatarGuy - come race a Tesla sometime.
Catherine Burton Nah, I'll stick with real cars like the Porsche Taycan, not the toys of a man-child and pathological sociopath who trivializes and weaponizes charges of child molestation, rape and BOLO, terror alerts 👌🏻
@@V0YAG3R Tesla sells more cars than Porsche, out rates them in customer satisfaction and in US sells more premium cars than all the German marques combined. Seems others disagree!
Their new Maxwell batteries will have more than enough density, long life and cheaper price than other manufacturers and plenty for a higher performance trainer. Leading in all parameters. Not bad for a child with a mission to transform the world to sustainable energy and fly to Mars...
@@waynerussell6401 Elon is right about his mission and how electric cars contribute. However, in space and on Mars other rules apply. Much like here on earth, where one size doesn't necessarily fit all.
For overland travel, the diesel car currently offers the best package in terms of range and flexibility (also cost wise!)
Despite having tested the Tesla and being quite impressed with its performance, there are certain constraints in its operation envelope that make it unsuitable for some tasks.
50 minutes means you can really only fly to a destination that’s 20 minutes away or so, so you can actually make it back home. It’s neat, doesn’t seem practical though.
i want to know how you seal the charging port against rain, dew and wash water. is there a silicone seal to put in when the cord is disconnected to stop the cavities from filling with water or dirt even.
How is it that the Pipistrel Alpha Electro, or the Taurus Electro, for that matter, do not have photovoltaic cells incorporated onto the upper side of the wings and the horizontal stabilizer?
It seems like a natural.
PV cells, integrated into the battery management system, would not only provide supplemental "trickle charge" while airborne (ergo, increased range and/or loiter time), but also be capable of fully charging the batteries, independently from the grid, while parked.
Other electric aircraft and motorized sail planes have already incorporated PV cells onto their airfoils, so obviously, it is a proven technology.
PV cells are woefully inadequate for even charging this plane with a 50 minute endurance. That's why electric cars don't even bother with them.
I drive a Tesla. I can't wait to fly an electric aircraft.
Цена .?
Goods
Very
No mention of the Panthera.. It seems like that project is dead. Too bad, that aircraft really seemed to break the mold, even considering the numbers Pipistrel released after flight testing.
Aint dead but has problem with US certification and because they barely keep with the orders for others smaller planes they obviously don't see panthera US certification as their primary goal
@@altergreenhorn thanks for the reply.. maybe someday we'll see it in the skies above America
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Solid state batteries already exist in the laboratory and they have a 2.5x power density increase over the current technology. In addition they can be rapid changed in 12 to 15 minutes. It will be about 10 years, give or take, before these batteries are produced on a major scale. That means that the 50 minute flight time would expand to 125 minutes or a bit more than 2 hours. After that, land, charge up again, and you're back up in a very short time. The batteries also can have over 20,000 charge/discharge cycles, compared to maybe 3,000 for LiPo batteries.
@BPwhistleblower Unfortunately a drogue would put extra drag on the aircraft and require that the motor burn up more power to maintain the same speed. The power generated would be less than the increased load would demand.
@BPwhistleblower What, your phone ?
@BPwhistleblower Ha. What I'm saying is, all your drogue idea will do,is charge a phone whilst in flight.
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Low noise.
Hydrogen has a energy density rate 140 times higher than lithium. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density#/media/File:Energy_density.svg
The electric airplanes look like helicopters.
just wait till we have better battery technology. This has to be way less than the Bonanza. This is going to drop the cost of owning an airplane because of the very low cost of operation per hour like this plane is something like 11 bucks an hour!!!!!! Had to sub
Thumbs up if Kyriakous brought you here 👍
Paul, for clarity, just like in aviation telephony, please say, "…fifty, five-zero." At least one sarcastic commenter heard "fifteen". The manufacturer’s spec is "60 min + reserve".
If you put eletric motors on the wheels you can decrease the takeoff distance. This is important because the plane spend a lot of energy on this operation.
It doesn't, actually, since taxi is very low energy compared to flying. There are some corner cases where this isn't true for jets, but for small aircraft like these that doesn't apply. Electric airplanes have full torque at zero RPM, unlike piston powered aircraft, so the full power is available right at the threshold and continues into flight. A machine with electric motors on the wheels could be dangerous as well, since the airplane does not really prove it is ready to fly just because it reaches flight speed. If the aircraft was disabled somehow (overweight, damaged, controls locked) then you wouldn't know that until shortly after take-off, where the airplane would fly briefly then settle back on the runway. At least with current airplanes, the pilot would know it is unable to fly fairly early on in the take-off sequence.
@@benjamind7290 I understand that, but the full rpm and torque don t means full traction. eletric motors on wheels could result in a huge takeoff distance improvement what means more time to the pilot response at emergence. Thx
@@ZR-eq2hl No, because all that means is the aircraft takes off without being in a flight ready configuration. Motors on wheels also provides complication; wiring over the landing gear, weight that the airplane must always carry, and new modes of failure (one wheel fails mid-takeoff, for example.) Yes, the takeoff roll distance would be reduced, but it is not clear that makes for a better airplane.
Ulisses Vinícios Airplanes don’t rely upon traction for takeoff, the thrust is generated by the propeller and not the wheels. A plane can take off on a zero friction surface and not know the difference. Traction is only important on landing when you are relying on the force of friction of the surface to slow your plane.
@Ulisses Vinicios You don't really know much about flying do you? Can you imagine the electric motors and mechanisms that need to be attached to the wheels....and the weight? All this just so it can take off faster? C'mon.
Gorica is also Slovenian just saying.
Thank you. But I’ll take the old Lycoming instead.
50 min of flying is not enough even for recreation ... but pipistrel hat down for innovation ... battery to heavy .... to much weight ....but pipistrel is the best ... thanks for the video.
Slovenia has recovered nicely from communism. A Slovenian woman in the White House as first lady, Winner and runner-up in the Tour de France, and Pipistrel.
One thing I don't get about electric planes is why they don't use an apu style auxiliary prop to charge the battery in flight.
probably not weight effective. Engines aren't completely efficient, and if you are going to burn a fuel anyway, may as well use a normal engine.
Because that wouldn't work due to the law of energy conservation?
0:57 Hmmm. That didn't age well.
Why
2:37 aprenda inglês em russo.
NASA has also built electric airplanes. In the future electric airplanes will takeover fuel power airplanes=good for the environment
Till you have to change the batteries. Recycling those will be the next major problem.
@@juxuanu and the lithium mining is just as bad as oil fields
Ícar true
@@brianpreston8483 And explotation of people for mines like those is happening right now in the third world.
@@juxuanu so very true
Electric air crafts made flying cheaper but there are two problems No.1 electric flights are short range flights while we need long range flights and No.2 problem is that batteries are heavy in weight, but on the other hand if we make electric planes base on Hydrogen fuel cell instead of batteries we can even beat fossil fuel
push a tiny hole through any lithium battery, and see what happens.
What happens? In what circumstances? How is this relevant to the aeroplane in the video?
@@DavidOfWhitehills a giant explosive fire happens.
@@DavidOfWhitehills ruclips.net/video/wUFxlf4fXjo/видео.html
@@DavidOfWhitehills diesel, JP 8, and even gasoline, cannot be caused to explode so easily.
@@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf 1: Lithium batteries don't do that. You have been misinformed, orare seeking to misinform. No-one has been killed in a lithium battery fire. Millions have been killed in gasoline fires. They don't use lithium flame-throwers.
2: Electric aeroplanes will not be suffering engine failure, therefore no crashes.
3.In the astronomically unlikely event of an electric aeroplane crashing it won't be the lithium that kills.
No thanks on electric, but more power to you.
By the way, Slovenia is the birth country of our First Lady Melania Trump.
Slovenia is the same size as New Jersey, but it doesn’t smell like cheese.
Smells like wine lol
Slovenia should rename to West Slovakia to be less confusing.
Slovenians don't care. They know the difference.
Nth Mexico would also be less confusing
More like Slovakia should rename to east Slovenia since Slovenia is more famous.
Do they arrange funerals as well?
No, why would they?
That is a terribly weak looking cross section at the tail. why so small.
There's very little force coming from the tail. The wings deal with much higher forces, take a look at how thin they are.
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electric airplanes and helicopters would be nice flying...
but batterys are too heavy weight plus short flying distances...
some airports locals are not having electric rechargables
Too fkng long.....
Don't confuse electric battery powered aircraft for environmental responsibility.
Aux contraire.
It certainly is. Manufacturing emissions are only minimally (10-20%) higher, in service on most grids you are looking at an 80-90% reduction in CO2 emissions and zero local particulate emissions.
Why an Electric airplane? Combustible Engine Works Fine - Only in Europe!
Internal combustion engine works fine but it's horrible efficiency, expensive fuel, high maintenance,
Loud, vibrations...
Also leaded fuel exsaust fumes are not the thing that i whould be happy to breathe in
@@blackturbine Makes Sense - Thanks!
Electric is much cheaper, as in several times cheaper. With current battery tech they are rather limited in capabilities though, but you can't have everything.
It would be nice if it could fly for a few hours, but it doesn't.
so your stuck to short hops an back
But the brain dead are still at it. Why did they not incorporate a huge solar panel in the wings, They have flexible solar panels now that would contour the wing, this would give them a much longer flight time an would charge the batteries up in flight an while sitting on the ground.
WHO THE HELL wants a "battery Powered" airplane?
I know several dozen pilots and NO ONE wants anything to do with such a monstrosity!
It's people like you that create stalls in technology development.
Nearly everyone who's ever had anything to do with aircraft maintenance would love the transition. Seriously, no more oil leaks, dirty spark plugs, ignition timing issues, magnet issues, exhaust leakage, cleaning oil, fuel and air filters, changing the fuel lines, etc...
Just perfect for flight schools and sightseeing tours. Sure, for private use you would be quite limited by the range, but if you only charter, it would be nice to be able to choose between electric and conventional of the same aircraft type depending on the flight.
0:24... you lie...! no flight in this video... Thumbs down
Good reporting
Good reporting