Polar Vantage V3 : Scientific Heart Rate Test

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @TheQuantifiedScientist
    @TheQuantifiedScientist  Год назад +1

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  • @b.4081
    @b.4081 Год назад +16

    Cranking out a lot of reviews recently! I just realised it means you’ve been working out an insane amount as well. 😄 thanks for putting in the literal effort!

  • @LogicException
    @LogicException Год назад +15

    As someone who has considered getting this watch: I am shocked at the result. Thank you for your great work

    • @malokey7
      @malokey7 Год назад +2

      Me too lol.

    • @Pragmatist101
      @Pragmatist101 Год назад

      Fact is Polar have lost their status as the most accurate HRM. By pursuing the wrist based OHR market they have made a bad mistake and simply lost to APPLE. All Polar's apps/functions (sleep monitoring, stress, calories etc) are now based on algorithms that are feed inaccurate HR ! So not trust worthy and as inaccurate as cheaper brands

    • @TheZlantan1926
      @TheZlantan1926 Год назад +1

      i am not shocked at all,i had the vantage v and it was a terrible device

  • @MrMorton
    @MrMorton Год назад +55

    HlR monitoring in watches has made huge improvements in the last two years and I feel testing like you have been a massive contributor to that improvement. These results are astonishingly poor for an upper brand. Hope they can get it fixed.

    • @timeTegus
      @timeTegus Год назад +9

      when a 600$ watch has worse tracking then a 80$ watch x.x

    • @gauravthapa6060
      @gauravthapa6060 Год назад

      This channel is an eye opener! Every other metric that these watches/ tracker markets depend on upon accuracy of the sensors! No matter how cheap or expensive if the basics are not done right , I mean what's the point of selling them? Just for profits fooling consumers? Amazfit designs the best watches for budget but their sensors are crap and haven't learned anything over the years. Thankfully the Fitbit charge 6 made some progress recently, I think we owe TQS alot for impartial data based reviews which is the way it should be.

    • @FJesusLSanchez
      @FJesusLSanchez 5 месяцев назад

      @@timeTegusSoftware will become better, it always happens when new generation of sensors appears

  • @francobellomo9979
    @francobellomo9979 Год назад +28

    Hi Rob, excellent review as always. It would be great if you could check it again in a few months because according to several videos I saw, the HR sensor got considerably worse in an update.
    It's really strange that Polar releases such a bad sensor

  • @mauricioernestodesouza6073
    @mauricioernestodesouza6073 Год назад +5

    I wanted to thank you Bob for the reviews, as it helped me buy the watch I use in my workouts. Before I had an Amazfit T-Rex that had a problem with the GPS. As the problem was very serious, I had to buy another watch. It was after seeing the reviews here on your channel that I chose to buy the Huwaei GT-Runner. It was definitely a good choice. Thank you for your help.

  • @williamstevenson2649
    @williamstevenson2649 Год назад +35

    Wow! That's about the worst HR of the many you have tested recently. Looks like they've rushed it out before proper testing, relying on the 'new HR sensor'!

  • @erichweggelaar1320
    @erichweggelaar1320 4 месяца назад +5

    Could you perhaps do a follow up test with the vantage v3, post firmware updates (ver 2.3.3)?

  • @astasuleo
    @astasuleo 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great review. I have the Polar Vantage 3 since its release date. Also have other watches to compare. I think is good and accurate as Garmin Fenix 7pro and EPIX pro. Yesterday Polar updated the firmware so it would be really nice to have a revision review from your side to check out the results once again.

  • @RallihSarl
    @RallihSarl Год назад +3

    I see Fenix 7 performing same as V3, but still that is consider to be top of the line. Surprising results for sure. I've been with Polar a long time and worn Polar Pacer Pro and had outstanding results. I really hope this improves as well. I have the H10 as well but I really enjoy to not have to use it for my runs.. Great video as always. Thanks!

  • @lucjangego971
    @lucjangego971 Год назад +2

    I would love to see an update on that watch. They pushed some software updates recently. Thank you for your great work. I keep buying stuff on Amazon over your link :). One suggestion: please present a comparison between various watches of the correlation (R) values for running, as running is probably the most common use case. Thank you!

  • @stephanreiche3072
    @stephanreiche3072 Год назад +5

    Great Test! Can please you do this test again after some firmware updates?

  • @kp66udv
    @kp66udv Год назад

    Still waiting for your review on the new ScanWatch 2! Keep waiting since you are the best reviewer out there. TQ for your hard works!

  • @mello1016
    @mello1016 Год назад +3

    Can't wait for indepth pixel 2 review

  • @stevemcknight5521
    @stevemcknight5521 5 месяцев назад

    Well done. A very informative video.

  • @antonmoolenaar713
    @antonmoolenaar713 11 месяцев назад +2

    I must replace my Polar Ignite 2 as after almost 3 years (of continuous use) battery life has deteriorated so much that it doesn't last for more than 23km running. Because of this review, I am going to switch to another branch. That is a pity, because I like the Polar app and the Polar Ignite sleep score.

  • @QW-AI
    @QW-AI Год назад +6

    Please, amazfit balance

  • @lgnd-lm6ug
    @lgnd-lm6ug Год назад +3

    There should be some sort of standardized test for these before allowing them into the market. I can't believe reputable companies are still selling new devices with such poor accuracy in practically 2024. And people keep buying them ?!

  • @vitalis
    @vitalis Год назад +7

    As a Polar user of cheaper models this test blows my mind. How are such poor results possible? Can you do the sleeping test as well? Someone forward this to Polar.

  • @SMarkGee
    @SMarkGee Год назад +1

    @thequantifiedscientist HRM during weightlifting - *Overall* Whoop is the most accurate for determining **strain** because it incorporates accelerometer data and uses Velocity-based training calculations. H10 may record the heart rate well or more accurate but heart rate alone cannot and does not correctly determine strain in weightlifting exercises! only VBT can. it's different for endurance training

  • @pauljones9150
    @pauljones9150 Год назад

    Love the work you do. Here's a comment for algo engagement!

  • @arethusas
    @arethusas 10 месяцев назад +4

    So, after about 4 months passed away, DID polar improved the problem?

  • @BogotaEnglish
    @BogotaEnglish Год назад

    Because of TQS Rob I bought a Polar H10. As excellent as this channel. I hope Polar can sort it out in their watches.

  • @neuschf
    @neuschf Год назад +14

    One thing DCR said in his review is that he had impressive HR performance on the previous firmware, but much worse performance with the latest update. He suspects they reduced the power draw of the sensor or something. Might be worth it to re-evaluate on a later firmware :s

    • @TheQuantifiedScientist
      @TheQuantifiedScientist  Год назад +6

      Thanks for sharing! Yes, I read his review to make sure others were also having similar experiences 😊.

    • @ZuikiaiANDco
      @ZuikiaiANDco Год назад +8

      ​@@TheQuantifiedScientist I hope you will repeat your tests, if new firmware with fixed HR will appear... As such V3 failure could be last nail in Polar coffin...

  • @mikeb5613
    @mikeb5613 Год назад +2

    I’ve been wearing the V3 24*7 since November. After the early December update of firmware, it was worse. I’m thinking of going back to my V2 which was better. You would have thought Polar would have performed similar tests as yours prior to announcing the V3? Have they become Boeing to watches with flying doors in flight?

  • @gamepass4764
    @gamepass4764 Год назад +3

    Please tell me when there will be a full review of the pixel watch 2

  • @mountainvd
    @mountainvd Год назад +3

    I wonder whether Polar had an official comment on that. Do they acknowledge software/firmware issues? Hopefully this review will act as a kick on their butt to fix things.

  • @imperatormouse2735
    @imperatormouse2735 Год назад +1

    1:35 Hey what app(s) do you use to get real-time HFR displayed on your phones during cycling? I am unsure between the V3 and the Garmin FR965 which is able to fly me to the moon but unable to show a Zone 1-5 real-time dashboard during indoor cycling (Polar Flow does have that function).

  • @rajahua6268
    @rajahua6268 8 месяцев назад

    Would love to see Polar H10 compare to the actual HR test such as multi-leads ECG.

  • @timeTegus
    @timeTegus Год назад +1

    god video ! could you also make a video about the Polar Ignite 3 or does it have the same sensor? also can you test the sleep tracking of both polar watches?

  • @wrdlbrumfd
    @wrdlbrumfd Год назад +2

    Please consider doing a test of the combination of a "simple" tracker (Xiaomi bands e.g.) and the "Sleep as Android" app. I am using this since several years and tried several smartwatches in parallel and my feeling was that the results of the app made much more sense (cycles etc.). But I have no fully neutralized setup as you have.
    Thank you.

  • @ImpalerVlad
    @ImpalerVlad Год назад +6

    Polar went from pioneers to greedy imitators.

  • @michelgombert5200
    @michelgombert5200 Год назад +1

    Hi, thanks for this amazing test and datas;
    were the recordings made after the software update?

  • @gamepass4764
    @gamepass4764 Год назад +1

    Hello. Nice video, pls tell me when the Huawei watch 4 review will be?

  • @Arczii1337
    @Arczii1337 Год назад +1

    Do you have excel datas of already tested watches? I would like to compare all of them with every tested aspects.

  • @JanZamani
    @JanZamani Год назад

    Would you be able to do tests on resting heart rate? This is the type of heart rate I typically use, to give a rough idea of my cardiovascular health.

  • @abhaisankar7168
    @abhaisankar7168 Год назад

    Hey …really appreciate your work , helps many take a very informed buying decision.
    Could you Please do a review of ‘CMF WATCH’ by NOTHING

  • @brianquigley1940
    @brianquigley1940 Год назад

    Ironically, you can pair your H10 chestband to your V3, and the watch will record the H10 values. I do this with my Unite watch, which is useful because it gives you extra info in the app about calorie consumption.

  • @salasart
    @salasart Год назад +2

    Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air?

  • @v6imlen
    @v6imlen Год назад

    Great stuff, really interesting to see. Btw do you plan to do the new ScanWatch 2 with the new sensors as well - christmas and black friday are around the corner, would be good to know all the options.

  • @luaphut9402
    @luaphut9402 Год назад +2

    please, will you test Amazfit Balance?

  • @robert1222222
    @robert1222222 2 месяца назад

    You going to use it Paired with the h10,right?

  • @Ischim0n
    @Ischim0n Год назад +1

    Well, you just saved me 600€. Thank you!
    Not buying polar vantage v3 until there's an update from polar. The performance is seriously pathetic for 600€.

  • @jorisciz
    @jorisciz 2 месяца назад

    this made me worried about the accuracy, but since V3 is such a big improvement over V2 I still bought it. Now I did a few exercises with both watches (v2 and v3), running and elliptical trainer, and actually for me there is almost no difference in HR measurement. So I think this test methodology is a bit flawed since they show results of only one person.

  • @GiedriausTube
    @GiedriausTube Год назад

    Wait for the update. Should fix the blurring.

  • @supercurioTube
    @supercurioTube Год назад +5

    I just started to watch but I wonder if you had the same results as Ray from DC Rainmaker, who had okay readings on an early prerelease firmware then trash after updating.

  • @Ordinary-Hendrik
    @Ordinary-Hendrik Год назад

    Thanks for the review! How fast is the vantage v3 can track heart rate in daily wear? I have problem with ignite 3 and vantage v2, i have to wait minutes to get to the proper heart rate before I am doing workout.

  • @NostalgicMem0ries
    @NostalgicMem0ries Год назад +2

    it still minibubbles how can apple lead even pro watches that are made for hr measurements..... maybe its square form?

    • @NostalgicMem0ries
      @NostalgicMem0ries Год назад

      @@Knedlikplneji dont get why other brands cant just copy that sensor, it been out for many year, anyone can buy their products, deconstruct and check whats working so well...

  • @lost_in_asia
    @lost_in_asia Год назад

    I hope you are testing the Suunto Race now...

  • @greb.
    @greb. Год назад

    I'd love a look at the Remi watch 3

  • @nababnegue
    @nababnegue 9 месяцев назад

    Polar would be better off re releasing the V800, I tried Vantage M and Pacer Pro and even Garmin Instinct 2X and I keep going back to the V800 paired with the H10 hr monitor. The V800 still has the most visible screen in any conditions, cool feature like taps and heart touch and the Polar Flow website is still the best for analysing your training sessions. Reviewers obsess over GPS tracking but none seem to test for an accurate and consistent pace speed, which is far more useful.

  • @sahabatyorofun6552
    @sahabatyorofun6552 Год назад

    Please review Suunto Race 🙏🙏

  • @Jezyk05JR
    @Jezyk05JR Год назад

    Hi ! Your tests are great, will you test Amazfit Balance?

  • @exposed8674
    @exposed8674 Год назад +1

    Any chance for Amazfit Balance ? It seems like it has been improved a lot.

  • @PicklIeRick
    @PicklIeRick Год назад

    I just want to know how your HR dips from 150+ to 80 in two minutes?! My HR would never...

  • @mauricioernestodesouza6073
    @mauricioernestodesouza6073 Год назад +1

    Polar probably doesn't test the sensors in new products against previous models. The brand has an excellent product, the H10, but it is clear that there is a gap between the development of both products.

  • @hwack17
    @hwack17 Год назад

    1:26 each video starts with saying that polar h10 chest strap "can in general record heart rate very accurately". But why though? Can't it be that this device has major flaws. I feel like a test with 5 different trackers at the same time would be interesting to see what tracker deviates when and how.

    • @TheQuantifiedScientist
      @TheQuantifiedScientist  Год назад +3

      Good question! There should be a pop-up card showing at that timestamp to a video where I discuss a scientific publication where they tested the h10 in different scenarios and found it better than the gold standard Holter ECG for HR during sports

  • @williamstevenson2649
    @williamstevenson2649 Год назад

    Pity- would have been good if the HR worked! Useful ECG. I'm still very pleased with my Polar Verity Sense and H10

  • @keithdarby75
    @keithdarby75 Год назад +1

    I've had optical HR sensor watches for a few years (currently using a Garmin Fenix 5) and have never relied on the built in optical sensor for HR tracking while exercising. It always has flaws and almost each sport has to have algorithms specifically designed for it in order for it to work 'okay'. With these sports watches - Polar Vantage V3 included - you typically pair another HR sensor such as a chest strap or an optical sensor that can be worn on the arm (which will generally produce better results than the wrist). There are a lot of variables with optical sensors including bone structure around the wrist, colour of skin, thickness of skin and even how much hair is there so different people will always have more or less success. Also - aside from firmware issues some have noted - the physical shape of the watch itself could be a reason for reduced performance too. It it doesn't sit as neat on a users wrist it may produce worse results - so someone else might actually have a different experience. Ideally in this test it would be repeated with a number of users (large small, different skin colours, male/female etc) - you might find you are the ideal design candidate!
    For me the main reason for the optical HR sensor is tracking the HR during the day or night for recovery purposes and I understand with this one you can also utilise the built in sensor to perform various tests that Polar used to require you to wear a separate HR belt so it is still a useful addition even if it can't be relied upon during exercise.
    I believe this type of test is a great one and when they do get to the point where the on wrist sensor can accurately match the chest band H10 for all people of all shapes, sizes and colour then that will be a great day as we can ditch all those additional sensors. However I think that is a way off at the moment - if it will ever come. Determining the HR by the change in reflected light through the skin as the blood flows is not the best starting point so I'm not sure they'll ever be on a par with a chest sensor which is picking up the electrical signals as the heart beats. Walking, moving, jumping, clenching your fist, vibrations on handlebars etc are always going to produce a change in blood flow that the sensor has to filter - you are essentially trying to get a 'clean' signal from a noisy one.
    Anyone paying around £500 for a watch like this will almost certainly be looking at an additional HR sensor as you really should not rely on an optical sensor in my opinion - especially one worn on the outside of the wrist (you'll get better readings if you wear it on the inside of your wrist in most cases but it's uncomfortable).
    In short the accuracy of the built in optical sensor on this type of watch should actually be a fairly minor part of your decision process when purchasing in my opinion. To be honest if they released the watch without the sensor at all it would still be an expensive watch and would still do 90% of the job it does now - just with a paired additional sensor which 90% of people buying this watch will be doing regardless.

  • @MATIvmr
    @MATIvmr Год назад +1

    Now Suunto Race 🎉

  • @matipopczyk
    @matipopczyk Год назад

    Hi my question is which watch is better for me. I’m football player ⚽️ and I do extra training sessions like jogging, intervals, bike, swimming, gym or just play football. I’m wondering about polar pacer pro and forerunner 255. What do you think and maybe you’ve got some different option for me. Please respond 🙏

  • @derksenjenny
    @derksenjenny Год назад

    For me it’s only Apple or huawei, I really want a good hr measurements. It’s disappointing how less watches do that right 😅now

  • @Michael-j9j1l
    @Michael-j9j1l Год назад

    is this something that can be changed with a firmware update? Or does this mean this watch is a dud and should not be purchased?

  • @shawn2481
    @shawn2481 4 месяца назад

    Did I miss the sleep? Anyone know how it did for sleep?

  • @suppsuppa2773
    @suppsuppa2773 Год назад

    Hi Rob, wondering if you are down to make a comparison between the H10 and the Magene h303. I've a buddy of mine that's telling wonders about that. Plus I'm a cheapo and where I'm those the h10 strap never get discounted, so I'm not confident enough to buy the magene and sitll waiting since forever for the polar to come down in price

  • @IMM11
    @IMM11 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe some updates will fix this V3 ?

  • @pmcmpc
    @pmcmpc Год назад +1

    It was really good on the old firmware .... hopefully they fix this. It'd be a disaster if they leave it.

  • @_marsmaennchen5105
    @_marsmaennchen5105 Год назад +1

    Can you please make a video about the new ScanWatch 2?

  • @Jafste
    @Jafste Год назад

    Hello, i am on a fence on buying an apple watch or the H10 for monitoring my exercise, i do runs for 10km and play padel.
    Any tips on what would be better to monitor those things?

  • @salasart
    @salasart Год назад

    Could you please do a review of the ultrahuman ring air Sleep tracking? (this device doesn't require a subscription like the Oura ring)

  • @RicardoBird92
    @RicardoBird92 Год назад

    A test for the Xiaomi Watch 2 pro please 😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @djroscoe77
    @djroscoe77 Год назад

    Hi, Thank you for presenting the data. Hearing your interpretation of the graph shown at 3:40, is it not fair to expect some of a lag? Considering that the H10 measures electrical activity and the optical sensor measures the pulse (cardiac output). Hence, there is likely to be a delay while the blood circulates to compensate for the increased demand, initially adjusting with vasoconstriction and then dilating when the stroke volume adjusts to the demand.

  • @Daniel-Condurachi
    @Daniel-Condurachi Год назад

    When do you plan to release the results for the Suunto Race?

  • @noadds
    @noadds Год назад

    could you please put brandnew amazfit balance to tests?

  • @relaxingbehavior252
    @relaxingbehavior252 Год назад

    What about Amazfit balance we are waiting

  • @dragonwolf2370
    @dragonwolf2370 Год назад

    Will you review new Garmin ECG heart monitor accuracy on fenix etc vs apple?

  • @Mauricemeijer81
    @Mauricemeijer81 Год назад +1

    Release a new watch after such a long wait, and than this poor results, not good for brand reputation …😮

  • @jurehrovat5425
    @jurehrovat5425 Год назад

    Will there soon be a test of Xiaomi Watch 2 Pro?

  • @Kreesher
    @Kreesher Год назад

    Can you do next the cmf watch pro from nothing?

  • @suntzuthesecond
    @suntzuthesecond Год назад +1

    I was seriously considering this watch, but now I've completely lost interest. Thank you.

  • @QuintuM100
    @QuintuM100 Год назад

    I like wearing luxury watches but i need a wearable thats not too big like bands or whoop that counts steps and gives me the right accurate readings of steps and heart rate, I dont know if you can help me with that, I really like the whoop but is there any way to make it count my steps please help

  • @quinnchau7166
    @quinnchau7166 Год назад

    Will you do the Scanwatch 2 soon?

  • @vincwong8498
    @vincwong8498 Год назад

    Hi, can u do a test for Garmin Instinct Crossover?

  • @wimkrol2233
    @wimkrol2233 Год назад

    Polar doesn’t give a discount for the V3 on Black Friday 😂

  • @eezeepee
    @eezeepee Год назад

    Who else wants the full review for the Pixel Watch 2?! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @ygln1997
    @ygln1997 Год назад +1

    It is already very clear that this man will never review any Casio watch with a heart rate sensor nor the Garmin Instinct 2X. What does he have against the Casio brand?

  • @minee7376
    @minee7376 Год назад

    redmi watch 3 test please 🥺

  • @GK-qc5ry
    @GK-qc5ry Год назад

    Considering their chest strap accuracy their watch isn't good.

  • @abdullahalnakib7836
    @abdullahalnakib7836 Год назад

    Please test Mibro GS pro

  • @waelahmed4672
    @waelahmed4672 Год назад +1

    I have one exited experiment for you, put any fabric between all "smartwatches " and it will read for u all oxy ,heart rate ,bp ,etc. 😂 just cheating us my dear

  • @innumkedaikala7341
    @innumkedaikala7341 Год назад

    CMF by Nothing Watch Pro review please.

  • @snowfox2766
    @snowfox2766 Год назад

    @TheQuantifiedScientist could u test casio DW-H5600

  • @alwinsebastian7499
    @alwinsebastian7499 10 месяцев назад

    so a polar watch with worse results than cheaper smart watches ?

  • @Chapeu_de_aluminio
    @Chapeu_de_aluminio Год назад

    gw4 improve our results in 2023?

  • @mallolollo
    @mallolollo Год назад

    when xiaomi watch 2 pro ? i'm curious ! thx

  • @stopPlannedObsolescence
    @stopPlannedObsolescence Год назад

    waiting for ultrahuman ring

  • @yildiraykomurcu
    @yildiraykomurcu Год назад +1

    At the end of each video, will you say to us the 3 upcoming reviews that is in your mind ?

  • @pauljones9150
    @pauljones9150 Год назад

    This must be a ai or software issue?

  • @ellylocasia
    @ellylocasia Год назад

    Coros Pace 3 pleeeeease 😭

  • @radoslavstoev4550
    @radoslavstoev4550 Год назад

    It's funny how the much cheaper Coros pace 3 outperforms a lot more expensive watches.