I dearly love this documentary, bringing Victoria to such life. Especially the last part, declaring "Victoria lives!" It's said with such joy and well, life. This is why I love history. Those who don't like history seem to think it's all about dates and places and battles. But to me, history is about people, what they felt, and why they did the things they did. Victoria left us so much of herself through her writings, and we are so lucky she still lives on through her words.
That's a beautiful friendship Queen Victoria had with Servant Brown. He would not have disrespected her because he was below her status and had friendship respect for Queen Victoria and probably knew the consequence if he had more than a friendship relationship with her. He respected and honored her and just wanted to be her friend servant which she needed to bring her out of her Widowhood mourning for Albert. That respect is shown when he felt sorrowful for Queen Victoria and her love for Albert when she and Brown attended a memorial of Albert. That's how deeply he respected them both. My great grandfather Kurupo Tareha was knighted by Queen Victoria and he received a sword for his attendance and a large picture of her Coronation which has now been lost among the family somewhere. He traveled from New Zealand to England by ship in those days. I think one of the family has the sword. Wonderful story thank you for sharing. So Be It!!!
My family moved from England to the USA in 1850, and they were commoners, but they were always loyal to Crown. My grandmother was the one who said I should never drink tea unless it's in a pot with a cup and saucer. That may not sound like much now, but she was teaching me the difference between British tradition and that of the USA. I'm a loyal citizen of my country, but I am also loyal to Queen Elizabeth and what she says. Georgia was the last English colony, and in my beloved Savannah you will often see the American flag flying with Union Jack beside it. Four of the books I've written are about the UK, and nobility. Few people read those books today, but I thoroughly enjoy reading them often.
Right?! I’m a bit surprised. Although, this is probably based more on reality. Documentaries generally make him this unbelievably, kind and wonderful man who could do no wrong. While he may have been a good person acting as though he has no faults or ambition isn’t real.
Albert Coburg is the "blotting paper" takes care of the "political sphere" NOT the "domestic sphere" the bedroom is John Brown's, her TRUEST HUSBAND who " scampered from Windsoral forever"
@@christomaritz5006 Rewriting.history is what they have been doing since Queen Victoria died in 1901. Started with princess Beatrice. Misleading many people. See what money can buy.
How lucky am I to live in an age when I can go online (and I remember having to use the library for one of the only sources of info as a youngster) and watch programs giving every point of view on any subject. Very good program with lots of new info into the life of one of history's most interesting monarchs. Thanks for a great post.
John Brown was probably the best friend Victoria ever had, he was encouraging of her being completely herself. All of us need at least one friend like him in our lives.
Her best friend he might've been, but he was a terrible person otherwise; treated her children like dirt and encouraged his brother Archie to treat Leopold - who suffered from hemophilia - badly, and abuse him.
I'd never heard of A.N. Wilson before watching this and I must say that he did a remarkable job of presenting and interpreting Victoria! I'm definitely now a fan of his. I love his unique and lively personality. Bravo!
I must admit that I couldn't name him, it's been so long since he was on TV heading many such historic programmes. I think he was 'replaced', as it were, by Simon Scharma and David Starkey
Interesting that a German girl, isolated, insulated, and raised strictly as a proper german aristocratic young lady, somehow became the very essence of all that came to be considered British.
Interesting that a German girl, isolated, insulated, and raised strictly as a proper german aristocratic young lady, somehow became the very essence of all that came to be considered British.
But when you consider that the nations of Europe are false constructs - that borders changed constantly, people mixed and mingled, and that there's no actual genetic difference between a German, a Dane, an English person, etc., it's all nonsense.
They were/are all of German decscent, arem't they? That's why George V changed the name to Windsor from Saxe-Goburg-Gotha. So they would sound more English.
“a flair for drama” is another term for ‘drama queen.” She withdrew from the world to mourn Albert, but reigned over an empire another 40 years. Her power was expressed best in Kipling’s Barrack Room Ballad”: Walk wide of the Widow at Windsor For ‘-alf of creation she owns “
25:00 - I like from that point on the Historians say Victoria probably didn't have an affair with John, just allowing the thought that a woman and man can just have a good friendly relationship without it needing to go sexual.
Yes. Some enlightened, intelligent men and women are capable of such loving relationships that could involve sexuality and sensuality, but often don't. Because, they are, in the final analysis, not terribly important, really. Other than to breed, if that is whatyou want to do. There are other ways of expressing real love between a man and a woman that do not revolve around the sexual and sensual, which some find repugnant ...
Platonic friendship with John Brown... Lemme see.... She wud Order her last wish to hold a picture not of anyone else but John Brown n wear his Ring(mother's ring) wen placed in her coffin says more than platonic friendship... I think they were both deeply in love, he ofcourse was dedicated to everything she desired... But things were under wraps... Quite obviously so...
The question above is " Did Queen Victoria find love after Albert?" Queen Victoria found love when she was Princess Victoria that's before she's QUEEN and before Albert Coburg.. . Even though she was POLITICALLY MARRIED TO HER FIRST COUSIN ALBERT COBURG ( NOT HER WILL BUT FORCEDTOO) QUEEN VICTORIA CONTINUE TO UPHOLD HER MARRIAGE VOWS AND COMITMENT TO HER HUSBAND ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN OR KING ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN TUI MANU'A FONOTI TAFA'IFA TAGALOALAGI OF THE POLYNESIAN TRIANGLE OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC OCEAN. GET SOME POLYNESIAN SUNSHINE ALOHA FROM HAWAII STATE
What a wonderful documentary. ..It gave life to people in history that we long to know. A look inside a life lived with heartache, yet determination for her country that she had to rule.
When I was young, I had an elderly neighbour who was an office worker in central London in the 1890s. She often saw Queen Victoria in her carriage; presumably travelling to visit another palace. She would have a couple of footmen and an escort of two horsemen. Victoria was not as reclusive as sometimes suggested. As a little boy, I was fascinated by my neighbour's stories of those times.
One might assess from this doc, that Victoria wore her grief as a disguise to wield stern power; much like Elizabeth, I wore her virginity... what a very interesting take! Not that her grief wasn't real, ...just that her grief wasn't "all" there was to her. Victoria didn't succumb after Alberts death... she conquered.
Your on point especially considering Elizabeth lied about being a virgin it’s all a mask in order to be in power oh and if you don’t know Elizabeth has been sexually assaulted as a child and had a secrete lover later in life who she couldn’t marry because he was married
I was born in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Canada and remember seeing portraits of Queen Victoria in public buildings when I was a little girl. By the late sixties, they disappeared, except for display in historical venues. I'm glad she had some joy in her life, at least one true friend (John Brown), with whom she could be herself, and a Prime Minister who she could relate to with ease.
I just now realized, that the Queen Victoria probably was the first "goth", and that because she wore black for 40 years and shoved her grief into everybody's face, the Victorian era is such a big influence in the goth-scene.
She was incredibly intelligent and curious and had a keen interest in learning all manner of things. She asked her Indian friend to teach her about the culture and how to write and speak Hindi. He was amazed at how quickly she learned to write it, in particular. Some people took it upon themselves to check his background and discovered he didn’t come from a high-caste family at all and had never had higher education. When they told her what they’d found she went into a rage - at them, lol.
I recall that being portraited on Victoria & Abdul movie, and she stating "Of course he doesn't, in India they do things differently!". And to be fair, I doubt she was interested in Indian philology but she wanted to learn to have a conversation, to write and to read
And where does your imformation come from. Do you really know how Royalty became Royalty...through rape. Pillage. And murder. Go back in time. I suppose you think diana wasnt murdered. Andrew wasnt a pedo... all brushed under the carpet you live in a fantasy world
She the Queen was taught the epigraphs " No one cheat like the English" For the narrators John Brown said " You have said enough" Queen Victoria's diaries were edited, weeded, altered, by Princess Beatrice ...all puzzling sayings and riddles. ..The TRUTH about JOHN BROWN and QUEEN VICTORIA is suppressed and oppressed no more...so please STOP MISLEADING THE WORLD WITH YOUR LIES. Thx By Mae Sapolu Brown-Windsor of SAMOA
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To emerge as an Icon without being saddled with a lot of biases is Remarkable. She is a good example to all and especially to women, I look up to her example!
Millions of Indigenous people were murdered, raped and tortured during her reign...as her reign was during the periods of great colonization. Yet, she is glorified as a hero. Many other people groups were almost wiped out in order to make room for you, the white population. I hope you are really enjoying your wonderful life on the lands that others died on, so you could have a better way of life. I never could understand how whites have all this privilege, yet you are still not happy. In my heart, I forgive Queen Victoria, and your ancestors for what they did to my people, and indigenous people worldwide. And I forgive you, the whites of today who continue to disenfranchise and discriminate against us in employment, housing, banking and in the judicial system. You are forgiven and may God Bless You.
@@iveyhealth2266 I'm glad someone said it. Many of these Kings & Queens from the colonial era are iconic with some very admirable strengths that should be emulated, but pretending that they didn't do some fucked up shit also is simply naive.
Many need companionship. It sounds like a beautiful love story.For John Brown was fun, and did outings with her.He was also refreshingly funny. Devoted, loyal and loved her unselfishly.TO BE SO LUCKY as to find a John Brown in ones life.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this 2 part documentary. I feel so much closer to her, a connection with a real person and not some unknowable figure from the past. I think I would have very much liked to know her.
I found him rather rude yelling and talking over the wife of Brown’s grandson. She was trying to read the diaries and he yelled over everything she said. I heard hardly anything. Spastic man.
When Judi Dench was asked " did they (queen John Brown,) mess or mesh up the sheets? She said they didn't. When Billy Connelly was asked did they (Queen Victoria and John Brown) mess up the sheets. He shot back , "OF COURSE THEY DID!"
@@maesapolu1832 That Billy Connelly might had been as ungodly in his soul as you are. Don't spread your delirium among other people. Filthy mind... Take care.
Mel: SHE CAN ACT MANY TIMES on DISTORTED FACTS AND PUBLISHED LIES HOLLYWOOD CREATION MOVIES. Why not call the movie "MRS COBURG" QUEEN VICTORIA LEGALLY MARRIED ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN THE INDIGENOUS LION KING TUI MANU'A FONOTI TAFA'IFA THE KING OF SAMOA. Do some DEEP RESEARCH. Aloha!!!
How refreshing, what a story, well researched, & presented with unbiased facts. Victoria, her ability to overcome & successfully struggle against the English courtiers and her family never easy at best.
Why was every male relationship she had thought of to be a romantic relationship? It's so unfair she was a woman in an unlike power surrounded by men, all those men were in power, that was her life!
She had a lover before she married Albert and she had a very high sex drive before, during and after their marriage.....Lord Elphistone was her older lover when she was a young teenager and she had a baby son to him.....he was sent away to India to some outpost........many years later when Victoria was queen she brought him back to England to her service......The baby son had been adopted out in secret to a middle class family, and that family were paid an allowance till he grew up. Then the money was paid to him directly, plus a large lump sum. He died as a young man.
Seems like the friendship of Queen Victoria and her servant Brown is what the kids call these days "queerplatonic". Where it's extremely close, almost romantic that would lead people to believe it was, but it wasn't. Just an intense friendship.
@@pjgreen1786 she’s not saying they were queer. She’s saying that there is a word for it now and it’s called queer platonic because definition of this kind of love that transcendamos friendship and stops short of lovers came out of thr LGBT community.
Queen Vicky had stupendous Jewels..lol. 'Mrs. Brown' is a wonderful movie. I love Victoria's allowing herself to just be herself in the company of those she felt she could trust enough to call friend despite the naysayers and it flying in the face of protocol.✨
Having learned many of these things in bits and pieces I wondered what was actually true. Now I know definitively. You did a wonderful job humanizing this dynamic Queen for us. Many thanks from Florida USA
I have never heard anyone say what I am going to say, but it is amazing to me how much Princess Beatrice of York looks like Queen Victoria! It's truly amazing!
I wish that I could help the people around the world and for our Beautiful America to have a life to live good and have a peace to enjoy life. I cannot help the whole world but have something to share. I am very poor in material things but I am very rich in the Heart. Love
A woman who dressed in black in mourning for over 50 years for her husband would hardly have had a affair. It would have been tantamount to adultery in her mind.
She was just a very grief stricken woman who lost the most important human inher life. He couldnever be replaced but the humble devoted man servant, John Brown gave her the bit of emotional comfort and relief she needed from the prison ofher femalegrief over theloss of the one and onlyman she truly did love and devoted her entire femaleness and life to adoring. I thinkshe has been very unfairlyjudged as a woman. Shewas no dumb, submissive female doormat types. She was actually quite smart, attractive and wielded a more feminine kind of power, as a wife and mother who happened to also be a monarch, though one gets the feeling that, if she had her choice, she would have rather chosen to be just a woman who married a man sheloved and lived inher own native land, not a foreign one, whereshe was expected to bethe queen, live in the city etc. And just have some kids, raise these right. But, back then, ifyou were born aristocratic, you typically had no choice about which country you were expectedto live in, whether you liked it or not... I once sawanold European painting depicting a very sad aristocraticwoman whose marriage to a foreign prince had been arranged, as they often were, with the young couple getting no say inwho they hadto marry,like poor Marie Antoinette of Germany who had to marry a French king. ... The painting depicted this sad well bred lonely woman kissing thesoil of her own beloved homeland, knowing she would never see it again, as she had to be married to a foreigner. Being ofEuropean immigrant background, this picture nearly made me cry,it was so sad...Itmust have been so heart wrenching and even downright terrifying because there were often wars across principalities and kings, princess etcback then actually weremore than figureheads performing opening ceremonies and such decorous roles. They actually took up arms andlead the battles, risking theirlives to defend theircountries. It would have been hard enough to do this as a man, expected and trained to be a brave warrior. But, how much harder wouldit have been ifyou were a female monarch who coppedthe big toughjobof leading the country intimes of political turmoil, wars etc?!? As some ofthese queens had nochoice but to do because they were"next in line" for this onerous leadership role, whether they wanted it ornot. But they would have been ill prepared for it, raised as refined, delicate aristocratic "ladies", not exposed to thr realities ofpower struggles,politics, Machiavelleanism that often accompanies these etc. You'd be on a pretty steep leaning curve back then, ifyou aspired to be a feminist fighting to grab the top leadership role. For starters, you couldn't just try and "go for it". It was either your divine right to have it ornot. It was conferred on you. You could not just grab the crown and stick it onyour head or rock up to the boss withyourbrilliant resume and explain why you are the best applicant for the kob,or do a bit ofpretty dodgy "networking" and pull a few strings to get into power. So, is itany wonder that some queens wouldhave ratheravoided thatleadership role, in favour of being just normal housewives and mothers. And,ofthe ones who did accept it as inevitable or desirable,like Queen Elizabeth 1, they saw the wisdom of remaining free ofany interfering husband and other family burdens eg kids to worry about. It was hard enough just trying tofocus on doing the big job they couldnot simply dump whenit allgot too hard tocope with the jome/work balance. Like moderncareer women withfamilies now have thechoice of doing iftheycan no longercope with their jobs. So, in a sense, I thinktheseseemingly unliberated, weak, fragilelooking past queens and aristocratic womeninleadership roles or as role models,had muchmore female strength and mental toughness,intelligence etc thanmodern feminists give them credit for. And I verymuch doubtthat most current era feminists wouldhavesurvived some ofthe trials some of these earlier era queens endured eg Queen Elizabeth 1, who even did a stint inprison, at the Tower Of London. Maybe Pauline Hanson, Aussiepolitical leader... Shedid a stint inthe slammer forher unpopular political views... But,no others of this era, thatI know of...
" Mrs. Brown" Miramax movie why not call " Mrs. Coburg" movie. The Queen said to John Brown " without you I cannot live my life" The truth is John Brown is the husband. He is King Alexander John Brown the indigenous Lion King who escaped to the Pacific Ocean. Keep looking and you shall find
Queen Lynette 50 Also with her Indian teacher at her very end of her life , the Munshi. All the gifts she gave the Indian Muslim, her children, led by her eldest son Edward and the Senior Courtiers, were stolen from him, from knickknacks to real estate, art works, perhaps even jewelry, and then they evicted him and sent him back to India in disgrace and ignominy. Her children, who did suffer so much from her hands, really did make sure she was stripped of so much which made her late life richer, they seem so petty, jealous, and emotionally shallow.
@Queen Lynette 50 -- How do you know? Do you have FACT to prove and support your statement? Also what or whom gives you the RIGHT to call your self "Queen"......... a bit disllusioal aren't you (or in your dreams ONLY) !!!!!!
I am a Filipina but I love the story of Queen Victoria…I watched different version of her documentaries on TV, books, and online. I never get tired reading and watching about her life, soooo fascinating. No matter what you said about her Queen Victoria is a human a woman needs a man and a Great Ruler she’s my favorite queen 👸🏼!
This is the first documentary I’ve watched where Albert is spoken ill of or even talks about them having a conflicting marriage to this extent. Most of what I’ve watched has talked about their infatuation with each other & apparently, also having a great sex life, lol. It’s interesting, as before she met Albert, she relished her freedom, didn’t think she would like him much - or anyone for that matter -, then fell in love with him at first sight without expecting to, became codependent to him & then depressed mourning the entire rest of her life! So much so, that she resented some of her daughters finding happiness? There is some level of narcissism going on here, but not to the full extent, because diagnosed narcs don’t mourn relationships or losing partners. She must have been mentally & emotionally unstable to some extent, especially considering she didn’t really like pregnancy or babies in general, yet had no problem using them as emotional crutches
Co-dependent is the best way to put it. She loved him so much, but when he died she just didn’t know what to do with herself…even though she was the queen. One thing about her relationship with her children, it is said that she was undiagnosed with post partum depression and when you think about it makes sense given how her relationship was described with them.
@@jjh2456 Yes, years of Codependency, control, manipulation then Separation anxiety, followed by what seems like a decent into clinical depression? I know this behavior all too well, having been a caretaker who lived with 1 who was 70. It’s absolutely draining. It brings the energy of the entire house down, even the property & it’s a breath of fresh air - like night & day! - to escape being around them on a regular basis. It’s no wonder that most of her children wanted to be free of her; I witnessed this too as a caretaker & it’s not something you can judge, because I know we’re expected to want to care for our parents as they grow older, but I feel like when you have an aging parent who is mentally &/or emotionally unstable, people find all sorts of ways to deal with it, or not. I feel for the kids, because they feel stuck wanting to do “the right thing”, yet they grow to have an underlying, if not overtly obvious, resentment towards that parent for being how they are. It’s hard to be supportive of someone when they use their depression as a crutch, use those around them to further validate the crutch, & don’t take support or help to make changes for their wellbeing. It ultimately drives people away. For Victoria being in the position of being a queen, seeing her own grief as valid & expecting others to join in where they couldn’t just say “NO”, that’s an obscene amount of control & manipulative behavior going on. She went through it herself & then she ultimately ended up doing it to others. A very obvious pattern of repetition. It’s beyond unhealthy to expect others to drown in grief “with” you, because you are upset. It’s forced codependency. It’s not like these patterns of mental & emotional manipulation & instability isn’t blatantly apparent through many royal bloodlines & it can definitely take another level of dangerous toxicity when it involves someone in a position of power.
Her children got SO tired of her constant life in mourning. And she was appalled and offended at this, and expected them to be just as mournful as she was -- for DECADES. Today she would do talk therapy and get meds to bring her out of her depression. But when you think about it, she missed both Albert's physical presence but also, he had done so much of the work of the monarchy while she was having 9 babies. Now it all fell into HER lap and she must have been shocked and angry about that. I also do not find it odd that she did not like babies. She grew up with no brothers or sisters so there were no babies with which she grew up, so babies were a complete mystery to her. I think the idea of birth was disgusting to her -- all that bodily fluid and labor. She loved it when she was finally given ether in her later births. Nowadays girls live in families with younger siblings, take Red Cross babysitting certification lessons, and babysit their relatives and neighbors. From what I have read of Eleanor Roosevelt, she was also a poor mother because, again, she grew up with no large family around her except for Uncle Theodore's, and she was shy and not physically daring, so I think his kids rather frightened her. She lived with her eccentric grandmother with mentally crazy aunts and uncles. She never had parenting training either and in both cases, they were of upper class families and were expected to turn their babies over to nannies and nurses. Victoria was horrified when one of her daughters was going to breastfeed her baby. Nowadays we consider it the best nutritionally, most convenient method for feeding an infant. All in all, I am glad I live now. Health care was pretty bad in the Victorian era.
Really enjoyed this! Incredible how the Victorian age still reverberates today and casts a larger than life shadow in places like my country Kenya. What a delicious irony to learn that the eponymous lady was a rebel herself and the farthest thing from being "Victorian", leave alone English. Now it also becomes clear why she gifted Mt Kilimanjaro to her German cousin. John Brown or the Munshi would have gotten away with the Great Lakes region -- had either just asked for it! :-)
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Millions of Indigenous people were murdered, raped and tortured during her reign...as her reign was during the periods of great colonization. Yet, she is glorified as a hero. Many other people groups were almost wiped out in order to make room for you, the white population. I hope you are really enjoying your wonderful life on the lands that others died on, so you could have a better way of life. I never could understand how whites have all this privilege, yet you are still not happy. In my heart, I forgive Queen Victoria, and your ancestors for what they did to my people, and indigenous people worldwide. And I forgive you, the whites of today who continue to disenfranchise and discriminate against us in employment, housing, banking and in the judicial system. You are forgiven and may God Bless You.
iveyhealth, you can keep your forgiveness, because I'm not apologizing for things I didn't do. The fact of the matter is, some of us were on the ground helping to fight for civil rights, and helping to keep them preserved. I didn't create Jim Crow laws, predatory banking institutions, or neoliberalism, and I certainly didn't wage foreign wars or even supported them. I can't take credit for what whites did in the past, any more than I can take credit for what genetic qualities I have. The only thing any of us did, at least those of us who are not racist and hateful, is inherit a legacy of violence and oppression, without our consent. The only thing I can apologize for is contributing to pollution and participating in capitalism.
Lonely women want and need the true companionship of an attentive and affectionate man. A man devoted to a woman is an amazing feeling, a Godsend and always welcomed!
A statue is not a human being. It is carved in stone, positioned unmoving, stoic, unyielding and grave. A human being is a complex being with emotions, thoughts and feelings that explode in all directions at the same time. That is now how I see the great Queen Victoria, a phenomenal monarch filled with beauty, charm, anger, pain, insanity, laughter, wit, intelligence, and all that life has to offer. I'm through worshiping graven images and ugly statues. I now behold this powerful queen as the epitome of the life of a woman who was enchanting, beguiling, brilliant, insightful, defiant, and one of the most beautiful and loving human beings who graced this earth with the grandeur of her godly presence. Thank you for two exquisite documentaries. I'll never see life and people the same stale way again.
It’s perfectly ok.....even if she had an affair! To be in love is to have sublime satisfaction, courage to deal with the day to day problems in life, it’s like experiencing Nirvana! She was lonely powerful woman she needed some company of opposite sex to have her heart out ......otherwise she would have been a nasty woman
Razia aziz I don’t think she would have an affair she was 42 when Albert died and she had 9 kids , one with a disability. I think this documentary is bad I don’t like how it portrayed Albert , he didn’t rule for Victoria he ruled with her . Maybe it was just a close friendship
I think he was based on the hand gestures and the chuckle from the other guy (regardless of what he intended, I’m going to start using “Stupendous Jewels” as a euphemism to describe a full bust 😂)
She knighted my Great Grandfather during her Golden Jubilee and gave him a medal which descended to my uncle who gave the medal to his German girlfriend - a fitting end but I would have liked to have had it.
Queen Victoria was Queen Elizabeth’s great, great grandmother. There seems to be a discrepancy in ages and history in your recollections. Please provide specific details.
Have you any idea of the stiff upper lip society of Great Britain at this time? Her Majesty may well have taken a servant into her confidence, even offering a kind of 'upstairs/downstairs' friendship but it would never have been anything else. Despite the class differences, she remained always in love with her husband, Prince Albert.
Candy Clews - FACTS and evidence to support your statement please. You need to read Queen Victoria's words in her journals that weren't destroyed by her family.
That was no upstairs downstairs relationship by any stretch of the emaciation. The woman was clearly deeply involved in an emotional relationship with Brown. It is well known that emotional relationships can be just as intense as a sexual relationship.
As to her Life in the Highlands books, bound in green, those green bindings in that era may have a good bit of arsenic in them. Do not handle them too often and wash your hands afterward. Arsenic was used for green dyes in wallpapers too. People would get ill in their shut up Victorian homes with arsenic-ridden wallpapers and other things with green dyes in them. Then they would go to the seaside for the cure and would begin to feel better, so naturally, doctors of the era thought sea air was ideal and curative. Then they would return home in autumn and get sick again from the arsenic in their homes. Kind of crazy to think that this was the case, but it was.
Just finished viewing both parts of your documentary - brilliant! After reading and watching 452134658498984819688445 million things on Queen Victoria's life - your presentation was enlightening, informative and at times amusing. Well done indeed and thank you.
She was not Queen of England! She was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and Empress of India. There hasn't been an English monarch since 1707.
This was wonderful. I was an historian most of my life but it the last of my elderly life I cannot read very well and cannot walk. What I would love is to have 300 hundred years in the palace archives to read all there is. I was so lucky having been given the chance after my degree to read some wonderful books. One in mind is letters to and from Queen Victoria to her daughter Vicky soon after Vicky left home. She was always asking if she could come home for a visit. The Queen was always jealous of how Albert loved Vicky and she never let her come home. She had a cruel streak. Vicky hated the German castle and said it was cold and draughty. Poor Vicky married off to a horrid German . My life is so short . I never read the next book.
*51:32* Is it just me or does Lady Reids view of the Munshi being an accessory for Victoria seem quite racist? Could it not simply be that the Queen enjoyed exploring a new, different and excitingly vibrant culture that she hadn't experianced before, as well as liking Abdul as a person?
I now have a different feeling towards Queen Victoria. I do believe that she was a good human being without prejudices and appreciated the world and all the people in it.
You're being naive by asssuming she was not prejudices. They start as impression SE,become strongly held opinions,mild to active dislike and emerge as attitudes and behaviors formed by inauthentic judgments of something/ someone Other than self!!
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I dearly love this documentary, bringing Victoria to such life. Especially the last part, declaring "Victoria lives!" It's said with such joy and well, life. This is why I love history. Those who don't like history seem to think it's all about dates and places and battles. But to me, history is about people, what they felt, and why they did the things they did. Victoria left us so much of herself through her writings, and we are so lucky she still lives on through her words.
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Fully agree with you here.
You said that beautifully.
We can only imagine if her daughter hadn’t burned/censored her diaries😩. What a shame.
Agree.
We can only understand the present if we know the past. Future is yet to come. And we don't know if we'll be part of it too.
That's a beautiful friendship Queen Victoria had with Servant Brown. He would not have disrespected her because he was below her status and had friendship respect for Queen Victoria and probably knew the consequence if he had more than a friendship relationship with her. He respected and honored her and just wanted to be her friend servant which she needed to bring her out of her Widowhood mourning for Albert. That respect is shown when he felt sorrowful for Queen Victoria and her love for Albert when she and Brown attended a memorial of Albert. That's how deeply he respected them both. My great grandfather Kurupo Tareha was knighted by Queen Victoria and he received a sword for his attendance and a large picture of her Coronation which has now been lost among the family somewhere. He traveled from New Zealand to England by ship in those days. I think one of the family has the sword. Wonderful story thank you for sharing. So Be It!!!
The sword must be at Waiohiki. A fascinating family indeed.
It's just a shame he was a nasty bastid to Queen Victoria's younger children; he was very abusive towards them.
My family moved from England to the USA in 1850, and they were commoners, but they were always loyal to Crown. My grandmother was the one who said I should never drink tea unless it's in a pot with a cup and saucer. That may not sound like much now, but she was teaching me the difference between British tradition and that of the USA. I'm a loyal citizen of my country, but I am also loyal to Queen Elizabeth and what she says. Georgia was the last English colony, and in my beloved Savannah you will often see the American flag flying with Union Jack beside it. Four of the books I've written are about the UK, and nobility. Few people read those books today, but I thoroughly enjoy reading them often.
British colony not English colony. There hasn't been an English monarch or Parliament since 1707.
Many documentaries praise Albert, this is the 1st that I've ever seen that didn't.
Right?! I’m a bit surprised. Although, this is probably based more on reality. Documentaries generally make him this unbelievably, kind and wonderful man who could do no wrong. While he may have been a good person acting as though he has no faults or ambition isn’t real.
Christine Greve - the answer lies in this documentary; her family tried to rewrite history.
Albert Coburg is the "blotting paper" takes care of the "political sphere" NOT the "domestic sphere" the bedroom is John Brown's, her TRUEST HUSBAND who " scampered from Windsoral forever"
@@christomaritz5006 Rewriting.history is what they have been doing since Queen Victoria died in 1901. Started with princess Beatrice. Misleading many people. See what money can buy.
@@maesapolu1832 what happened with Beatrice?
How lucky am I to live in an age when I can go online (and I remember having to use the library for one of the only sources of info as a youngster) and watch programs giving every point of view on any subject. Very good program with lots of new info into the life of one of history's most interesting monarchs. Thanks for a great post.
Yeah we are thankful & lucky of this internet, we can research anything under the moon & stars...
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Informative and most enjoyable. Thank you.
I find this amazing as well...It's like being in the largestibrary in the world with any periodical at a mere fingers touch!
Programme double m e in proper English, please!!!!
John Brown was probably the best friend Victoria ever had, he was encouraging of her being completely herself. All of us need at least one friend like him in our lives.
Good for Victoria finding her voice.
Husband and " best friend,"
Father of ALL her children.
IMPERIAL AUTHORITATIVE LEGAL MATERIALS IN SAMOA ...
@@maesapolu1832 Get help.
Her best friend he might've been, but he was a terrible person otherwise; treated her children like dirt and encouraged his brother Archie to treat Leopold - who suffered from hemophilia - badly, and abuse him.
@@SymphonyBrahms you continue living in lies.
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I'd never heard of A.N. Wilson before watching this and I must say that he did a remarkable job of presenting and interpreting Victoria! I'm definitely now a fan of his. I love his unique and lively personality. Bravo!
I must admit that I couldn't name him, it's been so long since he was on TV heading many such historic programmes. I think he was 'replaced', as it were, by Simon Scharma and David Starkey
He's a stalwart of writing and history. His biography on Victoria fills about a third of a bookshelf it's so huge 😅
@@anthonyherstell8569 I definitely want to read it!
Interesting that a German girl, isolated, insulated, and raised strictly as a proper german aristocratic young lady, somehow became the very essence of all that came to be considered British.
So simple! Propaganda!
@@goodnightmyprince6734 What racist thing did Boris say? Exactly, stfu.
Interesting that a German girl, isolated, insulated, and raised strictly as a proper german aristocratic young lady, somehow became the very essence of all that came to be considered British.
But when you consider that the nations of Europe are false constructs - that borders changed constantly, people mixed and mingled, and that there's no actual genetic difference between a German, a Dane, an English person, etc., it's all nonsense.
They were/are all of German decscent, arem't they? That's why George V changed the name to Windsor from Saxe-Goburg-Gotha. So they would sound more English.
She loved to write, had a flare for drama and wonderful way with words. Victoria probably would have been a very successful novelist.
They say Barbara Cartland is her granddaughter
To Union or
“a flair for drama” is another term for ‘drama queen.”
She withdrew from the world to mourn Albert, but reigned over an empire another 40 years.
Her power was expressed best in Kipling’s Barrack Room Ballad”:
Walk wide of the Widow at Windsor
For ‘-alf of creation she owns “
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Agreed!
Thanks for presenting the life of Queen Victoria in such great detail
25:00 - I like from that point on the Historians say Victoria probably didn't have an affair with John, just allowing the thought that a woman and man can just have a good friendly relationship without it needing to go sexual.
Yes. Some enlightened, intelligent men and women are capable of such loving relationships that could involve sexuality and sensuality, but often don't. Because, they are, in the final analysis, not terribly important, really. Other than to breed, if that is whatyou want to do. There are other ways of expressing real love between a man and a woman that do not revolve around the sexual and sensual, which some find repugnant ...
Yes, and she did love him, like a good friend would and should. There was no sexual interest, just friendship.
@@laurenmay2098 . i suggest you should find more to read about them and don't believe everything the oficial story sells... you will be amazed!
Platonic friendship with John Brown... Lemme see....
She wud Order her last wish to hold a picture not of anyone else but John Brown n wear his Ring(mother's ring) wen placed in her coffin says more than platonic friendship... I think they were both deeply in love, he ofcourse was dedicated to everything she desired... But things were under wraps... Quite obviously so...
@@Mystical3030 platonic because I don't think she had more than this love. She probably didn't lay with him.
I find it most interesting that Victoria write so much and about so many diverse subjects.
The question above is " Did Queen Victoria find love after Albert?"
Queen Victoria found love when she was Princess Victoria that's before she's QUEEN and before Albert Coburg.. . Even though she was POLITICALLY MARRIED TO HER FIRST COUSIN ALBERT COBURG ( NOT HER WILL BUT FORCEDTOO) QUEEN VICTORIA CONTINUE TO UPHOLD HER MARRIAGE VOWS AND COMITMENT TO HER HUSBAND ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN OR KING ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN TUI MANU'A FONOTI TAFA'IFA TAGALOALAGI OF THE POLYNESIAN TRIANGLE OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC OCEAN.
GET SOME POLYNESIAN SUNSHINE ALOHA FROM HAWAII STATE
What a wonderful documentary. ..It gave life to people in history that we long to know. A look inside a life lived with heartache, yet determination for her country that she had to rule.
lol She ruled nothing.
Yes, determination to kill people of other countries to benefit her own!
Thank you for sharing! Both men were great companions.
When I was young, I had an elderly neighbour who was an office worker in central London in the 1890s. She often saw Queen Victoria in her carriage; presumably travelling to visit another palace. She would have a couple of footmen and an escort of two horsemen. Victoria was not as reclusive as sometimes suggested. As a little boy, I was fascinated by my neighbour's stories of those times.
What an incredible experience to have spoken to them and gotten a first hand recount of such a time. Thank you for sharing.
Just cause she was seen travelling doesnt mean she wasnt reclusive.
What a lovely little story , how lucky you were 😊
How old was the neighbour who lived to see the Queen Victoria ? She must be older lady then when you met Her
@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811This was in the 1960s. She was in her 80's and I was about 11. I'd estimate she was born in 1880.
One might assess from this doc, that Victoria wore her grief as a disguise to wield stern power; much like Elizabeth, I wore her virginity... what a very interesting take! Not that her grief wasn't real, ...just that her grief wasn't "all" there was to her. Victoria didn't succumb after Alberts death... she conquered.
I agree
Your on point especially considering Elizabeth lied about being a virgin it’s all a mask in order to be in power oh and if you don’t know Elizabeth has been sexually assaulted as a child and had a secrete lover later in life who she couldn’t marry because he was married
@ANDY LUMEH © I bring you Gold. .Since these captured slaves were mostly professionals according to you, are you claiming that they were taken from advanced countries in Africa like Egypt and Morocco?
@ANDY LUMEH © I bring you Gold. I just looked up most of the "facts" you presented here...I found that only 3 were accurate and that YES, Africans DID sell their own people not just for gold but mostly for goods. You do know that Google exists, right? That anyone can just find whatever information they are looking for with the click of a few keys? That means, that anyone can go and see what I found, that a lot of your "facts" aren't facts at all, but disproven propaganda. Here was my biggest clue that I needed to check out what you were claiming. You said slavery went on in England until 1900! Everyone in the Western world knows THAT is BS to the highest order. England had abolished slavery even BEFORE America did....and even in America, slavery was abolished BEFORE 1900.
@ANDY LUMEH © I bring you Gold. Also....why don't you mention that slavery is still happening TODAY. Do their lives just not matter as much as the African slaves from 200 years ago? Or is it because it doesn't fit in with the narrative that you are trying to present....that White Europeans are somehow evil due to the acts of their ancestors, and every other Race, ESPECIALLY if they are Black are still somehow in bondage, even though this happened MANY generations ago in England, before even your Grandparents had been born? Seems like some grade A race baiting to me!
I was born in the Royal Victoria Hospital in Canada and remember seeing portraits of Queen Victoria in public buildings when I was a little girl. By the late sixties, they disappeared, except for display in historical venues. I'm glad she had some joy in her life, at least one true friend (John Brown), with whom she could be herself, and a Prime Minister who she could relate to with ease.
Wow love her ! And the narrator such class snd uniqueness, thank you
I just now realized, that the Queen Victoria probably was the first "goth", and that because she wore black for 40 years and shoved her grief into everybody's face, the Victorian era is such a big influence in the goth-scene.
She was incredibly intelligent and curious and had a keen interest in learning all manner of things. She asked her Indian friend to teach her about the culture and how to write and speak Hindi. He was amazed at how quickly she learned to write it, in particular. Some people took it upon themselves to check his background and discovered he didn’t come from a high-caste family at all and had never had higher education. When they told her what they’d found she went into a rage - at them, lol.
I recall that being portraited on Victoria & Abdul movie, and she stating "Of course he doesn't, in India they do things differently!". And to be fair, I doubt she was interested in Indian philology but she wanted to learn to have a conversation, to write and to read
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And where does your imformation come from. Do you really know how Royalty became Royalty...through rape. Pillage. And murder. Go back in time. I suppose you think diana wasnt murdered. Andrew wasnt a pedo... all brushed under the carpet you live in a fantasy world
@@marksinclair846 And, that has what to do with Queen Victoria and her Indian friend?
Thank you..you have granted Queen humanity and now I can appreciate the person and not the image. Tis a shame that her family disrespected her so.
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She the Queen was taught the epigraphs " No one cheat like the English" For the narrators John Brown said " You have said enough" Queen Victoria's diaries were edited, weeded, altered, by Princess Beatrice ...all puzzling sayings and riddles. ..The TRUTH about JOHN BROWN and QUEEN VICTORIA is suppressed and oppressed no more...so please STOP MISLEADING THE WORLD WITH YOUR LIES. Thx By Mae Sapolu Brown-Windsor of SAMOA
You tube doesn’t “grant humanity” to long dead queens. We choose to see her as human.
@@maesapolu1832 OMG
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I love the narrator's different accents. Had me in stitches.
In the first part, his accent for “she ate” made me search for the rewind button!
Love this documentary, thank goodness that Queen Victoria wrote so much down.
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Yes he is soooo good love it
@Brittney Lee Hill Collier jfc wtf is this drivel? Stfu write your novel elsewher, you nut.
To emerge as an Icon without being saddled with a lot of biases is Remarkable. She is a good example to all and especially to women, I look up to her example!
Millions of Indigenous people were murdered, raped and tortured during her reign...as her reign was during the periods of great colonization.
Yet, she is glorified as a hero. Many other people groups were almost wiped out in order to make room for you, the white population. I hope you are really enjoying your wonderful life on the lands that others died on, so you could have a better way of life.
I never could understand how whites have all this privilege, yet you are still not happy.
In my heart, I forgive Queen Victoria, and your ancestors for what they did to my people, and indigenous people worldwide. And I forgive you, the whites of today who continue to disenfranchise and discriminate against us in employment, housing, banking and in the judicial system. You are forgiven and may God Bless You.
@@iveyhealth2266 I'm glad someone said it. Many of these Kings & Queens from the colonial era are iconic with some very admirable strengths that should be emulated, but pretending that they didn't do some fucked up shit also is simply naive.
Thank you Writers for writing these past stories.
Many need companionship. It sounds like a beautiful love story.For John Brown was fun, and did outings with her.He was also refreshingly funny. Devoted, loyal and loved her unselfishly.TO BE SO LUCKY as to find a John Brown in ones life.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this 2 part documentary. I feel so much closer to her, a connection with a real person and not some unknowable figure from the past. I think I would have very much liked to know her.
I can see that.
This is what quality information looks like. This deserves the highest level of appreciation.
You’re a wonderful presenter. Your impersonations and accents really help bring these characters to life.
I found him rather rude yelling and talking over the wife of Brown’s grandson. She was trying to read the diaries and he yelled over everything she said. I heard hardly anything. Spastic man.
@@superstraight8402 agreed. He was more interested in his interpretation than listening to her.
I loved the movie Mrs. Brown, Dame Judy gave one of her best preforminscenes.
Patricia Yohn dame Judy been playing the same role over and over for decades
When Judi Dench was asked " did they (queen John Brown,) mess or mesh up the sheets? She said they didn't. When Billy Connelly was asked did they (Queen Victoria and John Brown) mess up the sheets. He shot back , "OF COURSE THEY DID!"
@@maesapolu1832 That Billy Connelly might had been as ungodly in his soul as you are. Don't spread your delirium among other people. Filthy mind... Take care.
Dhora: those are Billy Connelly's words. Do some DEEP RESEARCH. EXPAND YOUR HORIZON. ALOHA FROM HAWAII
Mel: SHE CAN ACT MANY TIMES on DISTORTED FACTS AND PUBLISHED LIES HOLLYWOOD CREATION MOVIES. Why not call the movie "MRS COBURG" QUEEN VICTORIA LEGALLY MARRIED ALEXANDER JOHN BROWN THE INDIGENOUS LION KING TUI MANU'A FONOTI TAFA'IFA THE KING OF SAMOA. Do some DEEP RESEARCH. Aloha!!!
How refreshing, what a story, well researched, & presented with unbiased facts. Victoria, her ability to overcome & successfully struggle against the English courtiers and her family never easy at best.
How did Victoria’s Indian servant come down with the clap? Did Victoria ever engage in coitus with The Swami?
Coburg!! My home town! Oh how I miss it. There was a great playground by Schloß Rosenau that I loved to play at as a child.
Where are you now? How long gone from there?
Are u unable to go back?If so,I sympathize as am in same situation.
Back in old days when camera's did not have beauty filters; the painters had them in their fingers;),
the air brushing / filtering of the day
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Back then men weren’t so shallow as to outright reject any women not meeting today’s porn fueled ridiculous ‘beauty’ standards.
@@camogrrl women make beauty standards not men
@@yem3321 Well beauty standards set by women arise from men's perspective
One of the best, full of interesting facts, a great revealing program on Queen Victoria, all of it was a delight!!!!!! 🐩🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I very much enjoyed this doco. Chiefly due to the narrator. He was great. Also gave another perspective on Victoria. Thank you
Ditto
Why was every male relationship she had thought of to be a romantic relationship? It's so unfair she was a woman in an unlike power surrounded by men, all those men were in power, that was her life!
Yes I agree with you, some men don't know
She had a lover before she married Albert and she had a very high sex drive before, during and after their marriage.....Lord Elphistone was her older lover when she was a young teenager and she had a baby son to him.....he was sent away to India to some outpost........many years later when Victoria was queen she brought him back to England to her service......The baby son had been adopted out in secret to a middle class family, and that family were paid an allowance till he grew up. Then the money was paid to him directly, plus a large lump sum. He died as a young man.
Not to mention the last one, Abdul!
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@@Dimpdis818 she made a joke, you fool! What a stupid creature,you are!
Seems like the friendship of Queen Victoria and her servant Brown is what the kids call these days "queerplatonic". Where it's extremely close, almost romantic that would lead people to believe it was, but it wasn't. Just an intense friendship.
@@pjgreen1786 she’s not saying they were queer. She’s saying that there is a word for it now and it’s called queer platonic because definition of this kind of love that transcendamos friendship and stops short of lovers came out of thr LGBT community.
In other words an emotional relationship on many levels.
It is evident in Victoria's journals that she absolutely did not consider nor ever refer to Brown as her servant.
Queen Vicky had stupendous Jewels..lol.
'Mrs. Brown' is a wonderful movie.
I love Victoria's allowing herself to just be herself in the company of those she felt she could trust enough to call friend despite the naysayers and it flying in the face of protocol.✨
Having learned many of these things in bits and pieces I wondered what was actually true. Now I know definitively. You did a wonderful job humanizing this dynamic Queen for us. Many thanks from Florida USA
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Florida here too 👋
@@yamil.343 Me too! There are lots of wonderful bios about QV. Take a look at them sometime.
I always thought of her as a stoic ruler, but this documentary shows how human she is.
Thanks for sharing this lovely footage ,much enjoyed .
Prince Albert's hometown, Coburg, looks so lovely and quaint, even now. No wonder Victoria felt so at home there.
Very very interesting. I really enjoyed this video and the way it was narrated. They should show this in the classroom setting.
So well done in every way. Thank you.
I have never heard anyone say what I am going to say, but it is amazing to me how much Princess Beatrice of York looks like Queen Victoria! It's truly amazing!
Both Beatrice and her sister seem to favor Queen Victoria.
I really enjoyed this documentary ❤️☺️👍🏽
Brilliant brilliant documentary. I love the royal family and the their history!
I wish that I could help the people around the world and for our Beautiful America to have a life to live good and have a peace to enjoy life. I cannot help the whole world but have something to share. I am very poor in material things but I am very rich in the Heart. Love
A truly fascinating documentary. Thank you so much.
A woman who dressed in black in mourning for over 50 years for her husband would hardly have had a affair. It would have been tantamount to adultery in her mind.
As a widow myself I agree. Thank you.
She was just a very grief stricken woman who lost the most important human inher life. He couldnever be replaced but the humble devoted man servant, John Brown gave her the bit of emotional comfort and relief she needed from the prison ofher femalegrief over theloss of the one and onlyman she truly did love and devoted her entire femaleness and life to adoring. I thinkshe has been very unfairlyjudged as a woman. Shewas no dumb, submissive female doormat types. She was actually quite smart, attractive and wielded a more feminine kind of power, as a wife and mother who happened to also be a monarch, though one gets the feeling that, if she had her choice, she would have rather chosen to be just a woman who married a man sheloved and lived inher own native land, not a foreign one, whereshe was expected to bethe queen, live in the city etc. And just have some kids, raise these right. But, back then, ifyou were born aristocratic, you typically had no choice about which country you were expectedto live in, whether you liked it or not... I once sawanold European painting depicting a very sad aristocraticwoman whose marriage to a foreign prince had been arranged, as they often were, with the young couple getting no say inwho they hadto marry,like poor Marie Antoinette of Germany who had to marry a French king. ... The painting depicted this sad well bred lonely woman kissing thesoil of her own beloved homeland, knowing she would never see it again, as she had to be married to a foreigner. Being ofEuropean immigrant background, this picture nearly made me cry,it was so sad...Itmust have been so heart wrenching and even downright terrifying because there were often wars across principalities and kings, princess etcback then actually weremore than figureheads performing opening ceremonies and such decorous roles. They actually took up arms andlead the battles, risking theirlives to defend theircountries. It would have been hard enough to do this as a man, expected and trained to be a brave warrior. But, how much harder wouldit have been ifyou were a female monarch who coppedthe big toughjobof leading the country intimes of political turmoil, wars etc?!? As some ofthese queens had nochoice but to do because they were"next in line" for this onerous leadership role, whether they wanted it ornot. But they would have been ill prepared for it, raised as refined, delicate aristocratic "ladies", not exposed to thr realities ofpower struggles,politics, Machiavelleanism that often accompanies these etc. You'd be on a pretty steep leaning curve back then, ifyou aspired to be a feminist fighting to grab the top leadership role. For starters, you couldn't just try and "go for it". It was either your divine right to have it ornot. It was conferred on you. You could not just grab the crown and stick it onyour head or rock up to the boss withyourbrilliant resume and explain why you are the best applicant for the kob,or do a bit ofpretty dodgy "networking" and pull a few strings to get into power. So, is itany wonder that some queens wouldhave ratheravoided thatleadership role, in favour of being just normal housewives and mothers. And,ofthe ones who did accept it as inevitable or desirable,like Queen Elizabeth 1, they saw the wisdom of remaining free ofany interfering husband and other family burdens eg kids to worry about. It was hard enough just trying tofocus on doing the big job they couldnot simply dump whenit allgot too hard tocope with the jome/work balance. Like moderncareer women withfamilies now have thechoice of doing iftheycan no longercope with their jobs. So, in a sense, I thinktheseseemingly unliberated, weak, fragilelooking past queens and aristocratic womeninleadership roles or as role models,had muchmore female strength and mental toughness,intelligence etc thanmodern feminists give them credit for. And I verymuch doubtthat most current era feminists wouldhavesurvived some ofthe trials some of these earlier era queens endured eg Queen Elizabeth 1, who even did a stint inprison, at the Tower Of London. Maybe Pauline Hanson, Aussiepolitical leader... Shedid a stint inthe slammer forher unpopular political views... But,no others of this era, thatI know of...
" Mrs. Brown" Miramax movie why not call " Mrs. Coburg" movie. The Queen said to John Brown " without you I cannot live my life" The truth is John Brown is the husband. He is King Alexander John Brown the indigenous Lion King who escaped to the Pacific Ocean. Keep looking and you shall find
So you can read minds can you? Arrogant
Abdul was Victoria's honest friend only.He helped him in learning Indian language Urdu
This was a brilliant documentary, thank you!!
She didnt have a fling. She had a friend
Queen Lynette 50 Also with her Indian teacher at her very end of her life , the Munshi. All the gifts she gave the Indian Muslim, her children, led by her eldest son Edward and the Senior Courtiers, were stolen from him, from knickknacks to real estate, art works, perhaps even jewelry, and then they evicted him and sent him back to India in disgrace and ignominy.
Her children, who did suffer so much from her hands, really did make sure she was stripped of so much which made her late life richer, they seem so petty, jealous, and emotionally shallow.
Queen Lynette How do you know? Were you in her bed room every night? Friends sometimes turn into flings my dear!
@Queen Lynette 50 -- How do you know? Do you have FACT to prove and support your statement? Also what or whom gives you the RIGHT to call your self "Queen"......... a bit disllusioal aren't you (or in your dreams ONLY) !!!!!!
@@meeeka Disgusting behaviour by Edward & others
Or good fuckk lol
I've definitely warmed to Queen Victoria through these documentaries and imagine others have too! 🙂
I am a Filipina but I love the story of Queen Victoria…I watched different version of her documentaries on TV, books, and online. I never get tired reading and watching about her life, soooo fascinating. No matter what you said about her Queen Victoria is a human a woman needs a man and a Great Ruler she’s my favorite queen 👸🏼!
wow pati pala mga pinoy nanonood ng mga ganito haha
Henry VIII also wrote a book. There weren't as many copies as Victoria's, but it was "published".
What made this adorable woman so wealthy? She is so glorious and an idol to all humans.
This is the first documentary I’ve watched where Albert is spoken ill of or even talks about them having a conflicting marriage to this extent. Most of what I’ve watched has talked about their infatuation with each other & apparently, also having a great sex life, lol. It’s interesting, as before she met Albert, she relished her freedom, didn’t think she would like him much - or anyone for that matter -, then fell in love with him at first sight without expecting to, became codependent to him & then depressed mourning the entire rest of her life! So much so, that she resented some of her daughters finding happiness? There is some level of narcissism going on here, but not to the full extent, because diagnosed narcs don’t mourn relationships or losing partners. She must have been mentally & emotionally unstable to some extent, especially considering she didn’t really like pregnancy or babies in general, yet had no problem using them as emotional crutches
Co-dependent is the best way to put it. She loved him so much, but when he died she just didn’t know what to do with herself…even though she was the queen. One thing about her relationship with her children, it is said that she was undiagnosed with post partum depression and when you think about it makes sense given how her relationship was described with them.
@@jjh2456 Yes, years of Codependency, control, manipulation then Separation anxiety, followed by what seems like a decent into clinical depression? I know this behavior all too well, having been a caretaker who lived with 1 who was 70. It’s absolutely draining. It brings the energy of the entire house down, even the property & it’s a breath of fresh air - like night & day! - to escape being around them on a regular basis. It’s no wonder that most of her children wanted to be free of her; I witnessed this too as a caretaker & it’s not something you can judge, because I know we’re expected to want to care for our parents as they grow older, but I feel like when you have an aging parent who is mentally &/or emotionally unstable, people find all sorts of ways to deal with it, or not. I feel for the kids, because they feel stuck wanting to do “the right thing”, yet they grow to have an underlying, if not overtly obvious, resentment towards that parent for being how they are. It’s hard to be supportive of someone when they use their depression as a crutch, use those around them to further validate the crutch, & don’t take support or help to make changes for their wellbeing. It ultimately drives people away. For Victoria being in the position of being a queen, seeing her own grief as valid & expecting others to join in where they couldn’t just say “NO”, that’s an obscene amount of control & manipulative behavior going on. She went through it herself & then she ultimately ended up doing it to others. A very obvious pattern of repetition. It’s beyond unhealthy to expect others to drown in grief “with” you, because you are upset. It’s forced codependency. It’s not like these patterns of mental & emotional manipulation & instability isn’t blatantly apparent through many royal bloodlines & it can definitely take another level of dangerous toxicity when it involves someone in a position of power.
I totally agree
Her children got SO tired of her constant life in mourning. And she was appalled and offended at this, and expected them to be just as mournful as she was -- for DECADES. Today she would do talk therapy and get meds to bring her out of her depression. But when you think about it, she missed both Albert's physical presence but also, he had done so much of the work of the monarchy while she was having 9 babies. Now it all fell into HER lap and she must have been shocked and angry about that. I also do not find it odd that she did not like babies. She grew up with no brothers or sisters so there were no babies with which she grew up, so babies were a complete mystery to her. I think the idea of birth was disgusting to her -- all that bodily fluid and labor. She loved it when she was finally given ether in her later births. Nowadays girls live in families with younger siblings, take Red Cross babysitting certification lessons, and babysit their relatives and neighbors. From what I have read of Eleanor Roosevelt, she was also a poor mother because, again, she grew up with no large family around her except for Uncle Theodore's, and she was shy and not physically daring, so I think his kids rather frightened her. She lived with her eccentric grandmother with mentally crazy aunts and uncles. She never had parenting training either and in both cases, they were of upper class families and were expected to turn their babies over to nannies and nurses. Victoria was horrified when one of her daughters was going to breastfeed her baby. Nowadays we consider it the best nutritionally, most convenient method for feeding an infant. All in all, I am glad I live now. Health care was pretty bad in the Victorian era.
Victoria is now Britain's second-longest-reigning monarch.
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Ellen Frank yeah Queen Elizabeth II is the the longest reigning queen of UK
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Cool man
@@catherinemartin4999 cool
MRS. BROWN, with Billy Connolly was a wonderfull film. This video brings it all back.
I want to see that film where can I get it I live in the USA
Really enjoyed this! Incredible how the Victorian age still reverberates today and casts a larger than life shadow in places like my country Kenya. What a delicious irony to learn that the eponymous lady was a rebel herself and the farthest thing from being "Victorian", leave alone English. Now it also becomes clear why she gifted Mt Kilimanjaro to her German cousin. John Brown or the Munshi would have gotten away with the Great Lakes region -- had either just asked for it! :-)
The house at the isle if wight was amazing
It is a wonderful please to visit.
An excellent and very interesting account of HRM Queen Victoria s life! I never knew she was such a character!
Beautiful comment, hi there how are you doing and your family doing with the pandemic issue?
@@adamsmaxwell9927 hi Adams! Good thank you. We are coming out of lockdown tomorrow!🤗🙏
@@sheilahammond4260 That’s nice, I really do pray for the world to be normal again
@@sheilahammond4260 I’m Adams from the USA, and you ?
@@adamsmaxwell9927 From UK. London. Have you ever visited? It's changing fast, but there's still plenty that hasn't! It's worth visiting. Lots of parks and this time of year it's at its best. We've been getting lots of sunny days!🌄🌞🌳🌹🐕🐦🎶🍀🐈🤗
Utterly fascinating. Thank you.xx
I am absolutely delighted to learn two-part series of majesty the queen victoria.
What an in-depth report to follow her life.?
Thank you.
I’ve been in love with Queen Victoria most of my 76 years. This video tells me I made a good decision.
I love how this little woman was capable of going full batshit Joan Collins when people pissed her of, It is just magical.
In all honesty, her tough skin, hard-headedness, and sense of humor remind me strongly of my own mother.
Lends new meaning to the phrase, "We are not amused." :-)
Millions of Indigenous people were murdered, raped and tortured during her reign...as her reign was during the periods of great colonization.
Yet, she is glorified as a hero. Many other people groups were almost wiped out in order to make room for you, the white population. I hope you are really enjoying your wonderful life on the lands that others died on, so you could have a better way of life.
I never could understand how whites have all this privilege, yet you are still not happy.
In my heart, I forgive Queen Victoria, and your ancestors for what they did to my people, and indigenous people worldwide. And I forgive you, the whites of today who continue to disenfranchise and discriminate against us in employment, housing, banking and in the judicial system. You are forgiven and may God Bless You.
It's 2022 and I'm just reading watching this....its beautifully done. Well done. Victoria lives!
iveyhealth, you can keep your forgiveness, because I'm not apologizing for things I didn't do. The fact of the matter is, some of us were on the ground helping to fight for civil rights, and helping to keep them preserved. I didn't create Jim Crow laws, predatory banking institutions, or neoliberalism, and I certainly didn't wage foreign wars or even supported them.
I can't take credit for what whites did in the past, any more than I can take credit for what genetic qualities I have. The only thing any of us did, at least those of us who are not racist and hateful, is inherit a legacy of violence and oppression, without our consent.
The only thing I can apologize for is contributing to pollution and participating in capitalism.
Fascinating...an excellent insight.
Lonely women want and need the true companionship of an attentive and affectionate man. A man devoted to a woman is an amazing feeling, a Godsend and always welcomed!
The sexes definitely complement each other.
Really interesting doco. Shame about the amount of ads.
A statue is not a human being. It is carved in stone, positioned unmoving, stoic, unyielding and grave. A human being is a complex being with emotions, thoughts and feelings that explode in all directions at the same time. That is now how I see the great Queen Victoria, a phenomenal monarch filled with beauty, charm, anger, pain, insanity, laughter, wit, intelligence, and all that life has to offer. I'm through worshiping graven images and ugly statues. I now behold this powerful queen as the epitome of the life of a woman who was enchanting, beguiling, brilliant, insightful, defiant, and one of the most beautiful and loving human beings who graced this earth with the grandeur of her godly presence. Thank you for two exquisite documentaries. I'll never see life and people the same stale way again.
I think that was a good friendship I don't think that was an affair.
Viktoria acted totally normal considering the circumstances....the opinion of the reporter re albert? Harsh....there was love....
It’s perfectly ok.....even if she had an affair!
To be in love is to have sublime satisfaction, courage to deal with the day to day problems in life, it’s like experiencing Nirvana!
She was lonely powerful woman she needed some company of opposite sex to have her heart out ......otherwise she would have been a nasty woman
Razia aziz I don’t think she would have an affair she was 42 when Albert died and she had 9 kids , one with a disability. I think this documentary is bad I don’t like how it portrayed Albert , he didn’t rule for Victoria he ruled with her . Maybe it was just a close friendship
Well done! A. N. Wilson is a highly respected biographer.
Who reports rumor and innuendo as fact.
Definitely. Shows that Victoria was no lady mourning over Albert for 50 years. Good for her.
When he said "stupendous jewels" I thought he was referring to her "huge tracts of land"
I think he was based on the hand gestures and the chuckle from the other guy (regardless of what he intended, I’m going to start using “Stupendous Jewels” as a euphemism to describe a full bust 😂)
Miss M, that's exactly what "huge...tracts of land" refers to, it's a Monty Python quote. I want to siiiiing...
She had tremendous, but what...Did he say? Anyway what a marvelous documentary. Queen 👑 Victoria is a fascinating Lady.
@EnchantedForestFairy tremendous Jewels.
Jewels
She knighted my Great Grandfather during her Golden Jubilee and gave him a medal which descended to my uncle who gave the medal to his German girlfriend - a fitting end but I would have liked to have had it.
That's not a fitting end
What a shame on your uncle.
And then the girlfriend dumped him and sold it on eBay.
@@pneron2032 exactly!! I was a little shocked too.." the 'girlfriend'?? Those things should stay in the FAMILY.
Queen Victoria was Queen Elizabeth’s great, great grandmother. There seems to be a discrepancy in ages and history in your recollections. Please provide specific details.
She could get along and trusted him.
She needed someone who's devoted to her.
Don’t we all! 😘
@@ekdaufin1485 Yup. She was only human.
Don't we all, indeed!
@@ekdaufin1485😁 😊😘😌🙂
Have you any idea of the stiff upper lip society of Great Britain at this time? Her Majesty may well have taken a servant into her confidence, even offering a kind of 'upstairs/downstairs' friendship but it would never have been anything else. Despite the class differences, she remained always in love with her husband, Prince Albert.
Candy Clews - FACTS and evidence to support your statement please. You need to read Queen Victoria's words in her journals that weren't destroyed by her family.
What rubbish. Brown banged her like a Scottish highland army drum.
@@pneron2032 I doubt that.
@@KuchiKopi179 Fine. Like a English bass drum.
That was no upstairs downstairs relationship by any stretch of the emaciation. The woman was clearly deeply involved in an emotional relationship with Brown. It is well known that emotional relationships can be just as intense as a sexual relationship.
Queen Victoria Empress of India
It's very good that I am knowing the history of this ancient Queen again.
As to her Life in the Highlands books, bound in green, those green bindings in that era may have a good bit of arsenic in them. Do not handle them too often and wash your hands afterward. Arsenic was used for green dyes in wallpapers too. People would get ill in their shut up Victorian homes with arsenic-ridden wallpapers and other things with green dyes in them. Then they would go to the seaside for the cure and would begin to feel better, so naturally, doctors of the era thought sea air was ideal and curative. Then they would return home in autumn and get sick again from the arsenic in their homes. Kind of crazy to think that this was the case, but it was.
Excellent documentary - Thank You 🇦🇺
Just finished viewing both parts of your documentary - brilliant! After reading and watching 452134658498984819688445 million things on Queen Victoria's life - your presentation was enlightening, informative and at times amusing. Well done indeed and thank you.
Thanks for the time. Nice doco
Great job Mr. Wilson. Above all she was as woman. Every interesting...wonderful.
realy good watch enjoyed it very much
Flattery from day one.......smart man! Fantastic video.
It's a pity her favourite prime minister never had any children.
Great program
Victoria: A Woman and Monarch of Strength and Dedication
It's 2022 and I'm just reading watching this....its beautifully done. Well done. Victoria lives!
2024
Her Glorious Majesty Queen Victoria, Queen of England and the British Empire, and Empress of India.
She was not Queen of England! She was Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and Empress of India. There hasn't been an English monarch since 1707.
This is an awesome documentary.
A very grand and special and unique woman
Well said Cheryl!😁
This was wonderful. I was an historian most of my life but it the last of my elderly life I cannot read very well and cannot walk. What I would love is to have 300 hundred years in the palace archives to read all there is. I was so lucky having been given the chance after my degree to read some wonderful books. One in mind is letters to and from Queen Victoria to her daughter Vicky soon after Vicky left home. She was always asking if she could come home for a visit. The Queen was always jealous of how Albert loved Vicky and she never let her come home. She had a cruel streak. Vicky hated the German castle and said it was cold and draughty. Poor Vicky married off to a horrid German . My life is so short . I never read the next book.
*51:32* Is it just me or does Lady Reids view of the Munshi being an accessory for Victoria seem quite racist? Could it not simply be that the Queen enjoyed exploring a new, different and excitingly vibrant culture that she hadn't experianced before, as well as liking Abdul as a person?
My mother remembers her pictures still hanging in schools in New Zealand in the 1900s
A very excellent documentary. Thank you
I found this so interesting. My relatives were from Prussia.
Wilson is the perfect presenter for this stuff
This was wonderful, A.N. Wilson bringing Queen Victoria alive to us in all her colours.
(Mr. Wilson is my secret crush 😍).
In the movie "The Shootist" they portrayed John Wayne as admiring (Queen Vic) as He read about Her in the newspaper, mebby.?
"Stole it from a whorehouse in Creed." 😉
Love the Documentary
I now have a different feeling towards Queen Victoria. I do believe that she was a good human being without prejudices and appreciated the world and all the people in it.
You're being naive by asssuming she was not prejudices. They start as impression SE,become strongly held opinions,mild to active dislike and emerge as attitudes and behaviors formed by inauthentic judgments of something/ someone Other than self!!