Lovely talk. I have a fascination for Lady Jane Grey, and I think what is saddest is not only their bravery and youth and the clinical brutality of the times, and the way such young people were seen as assets and manipulated by those in power, but also the fact that she is the forgotten queen - never listed in the royal line or acknowledged, as if her very short time named as queen were an embarrassment. I remember as a girl scratching “Jane” defiantly on my school ruler which showed the kings and queens, with an arrow to the gap where she would have been... In reality she was perhaps one of the most intelligent and educated young women of her age, and we can only now wonder at what she might have become. Rest in peace, Jane.
Yeah, I know there are endless technical definitions of a monarch, but I'm always annoyed at Jane being left out. And I know the Empress Matilda was never *called* a queen, just the "Lady of England", but Oliver Cromwell often gets in the list & he definitely wasn't a king!
I with you! My husband agrees it's awful but will tell me to remember it's all over for them and they arent in pain now. But still... they have all been gone for so long but yet their lives feel just as vibrant and alive to me.
@Philip Lorenz why can you only have empathy for one set of people? Both had their lives taken. Anne Boleyn was relieved Henry had granted her the swordsman but do you think she still wasn't afraid? How about all the wealthy people who were struck multiple times? In the end, they were all wronged & I have empathy for them as human beings.
@Philip Lorenz sadly, the average Joe was hanged.....not from a scaffold (where the neck might break), just hung by the neck until they suffocated. I have read that it sometimes took hours (if the rope did not cut off their breathing or blood supply to the brain). Ugh. Poor Robert Aske was hanged in chains...so the chains were wrapped around his body, and he took days to die. Torment.
Thank you for this. I've just finished reading Eric Ives' book on Lady Jane and, by the end of it, I found myself believing that Jane had a stronger legal claim to the throne than did Mary Tudor, but sadly, not the support of the public. The accounts of Jane's and Guildford's executions, even though these occurred more than 460 years ago, are still very poignant and moving. Both apparently met their ends with great dignity.
I look forward everyday to my Tudor talk ! I learn so many new things daily and today’s mini lecture is no exception. I had not known about the stone carvings of the Dudley’s especially the one for Lady Jane Grey. It’s all so hauntingly beautiful and poignant.
Another one that hits me is the carving of an uncrowned falcon. Anne Boleyn's badge was a crowned falcon so it is very moving to see it without its crown.
I am just beginning to learn about Jane. My heart is so broken! What a terrible story! She was murdered not executed. 🥺 Thank you for this great talk.💕
I found your channel only a couple of days ago, I am enthusiastically listening to you "talking Tudor" For years my friends have endured me telling them "Tudor tidbits" You are my people Claire, thank you.
Very moving story indeed. After watching, I did an image search for the graffiti in the Beauchamp Tower and was awed by the work of the prisoners. If there is no book yet available on the subject of prisoner graffiti, It would be hoped that someone could produce such a work, for they are truly a form of artwork. Thank you for including them in this video.
Thank you for making these videos! I love everything Tudor history, royal history etc. I'm binge watching all of your videos. You definitely know your stuff and I enjoy your opinions and focus on the facts rather than the emotions.
Thank you so much. I have always been fascinated with Lady Jane Grey and have wondered what kind of queen she would have been if she was able to retain the throne.
Poor brave Jane! Did not waver in her faith at all. I just got your book and now I can follow along everyday. 😁. The only problem is that I get little else done.........!!
These people were so brave, confidant in their beliefs, honestly , I’d probably be saying anything to save myself from the axe, I think I may be somewhat brave, but axe, I’m afraid I’d be a complete coward!and Jane was so young
@@anneboleynfiles Heh. I would be wondering if there was a time limit on your final statement otherwise I would be filibustering until everyone fell asleep and I could escape. Seriously I think I would most likely fall into a "great madness with much lamitations" as the Chroniclers would say. Maybe I could manage "I am not a traitor. If you want my head come and take it." Although that went very badly for The Countess of Salisbury. I think the great and sudden madness is they way I would go out.
@@carolrondou6161 There was definitely a format that you were expected to stick to - confess that you were deserving of death (due to original sin), praise the monarch etc. and I'm sure someone would have hurried you up if you took too long over it. Saying that, though, George Boleyn took the opportunity to preach quite a sermon!
@@anneboleynfiles There was certainly a ritual for it. The person granted the mercy of decapitation had to be considering how they behaved at their execution would reflect on the family and their own dignity as well. I think as modern people it's hard for us to understand.
Terry Dodson I think they got a large portion of their bravery from their firm belief in the afterlife and eternity in heaven, closer to god to whom they had devoted their lives. The next life was even more important than the short one on earth as a mortal. Still I would have been terrified of that block.
🇦🇺🦘 Maybe, if the Rebellion had not taken place, Lady Jane Grey and her husband (both so young), may have received the mercy of Mary to be released, as Mary had at first intended. This was not to be. 🔔🔔 Thank you Claire 👑👍
Thank you for the poignancy of their stories. I’ve softened a bit about Mary Tudor since viewing these videos, but this sent me right back to useless resentment. These sweet young victims might have lived at least in exile.
Hi Claire. I have only in the last few days discovered your channel (I don't know what took me so long!) but I've now subscribed and working my way through your fascinating and informative videos. I've always been a bit of a history nut but particularly of Tudor history. I think the Tudor interest probably goes back to when I first visited Hampton Court palace as a little one, over 50 years ago. I still have a Henry VIII doll from then who is looking a little moth eaten these days. I could recite his wives and their various demise from since I can't remember when. I have dragged my children along on visits back to Hampton Court and we spent a lovely time at Hever Castle and my enthusiasm for Tudor History has now thankfully been passed on to my daughter. One area of Tudor History that I haven't really read into is that of Queen Jane. Your video has now piqued my interest so I plan to remedy that. Thank you for posting your videos. I am now going to check out your website.
Although I visited the Tower of London in the mid seventies, I was not aware of the involvement of so many non royals who were executed there. The beheading block was on display but the beef eaters only covered a few of the people beheaded there on
I must say , the two had real guts.....to face their end so courageously . to stand on what they believed , in spite of having a way out , especially being youths . I don't know if I could have . very moving , great share as usual...........thank you.......
✨🎬🧡 I love the movie Lady Jane with Helena Bonham Carter and Cary Elwes - I am impressed by her intelligence her devotion to her protestant faith and the line that gets quoted from Plato I believe -about the afterlife which is like wow I just love this movie I own it on digital so I get to watch it whenever I fancy entering that time. that world! I love to see Jane and Gilbert fall in love too which is wow I love their story ✨🧡🧡🧡 :)
The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society ✨ It’s pretty good, I don’t know from a ✨🏹History point of view but-it’s pretty good from a movie goers point of you I guess ; it’s awesome to see many of your favourite older actors in their early days I’ve spotted a few-for example the actor John Wood.He’s interesting to watch. :)
It was hinted that the "Jane" engraving done by Guildford meant his mother, whose maiden name was Jane Guildford. But I don't think that applies here because the symbol of the House of Grey appears under the "Jane" engraving, so this is very likely Guildford's tribute to his wife.
Beautiful words on Lady Jane Grey, after watching the film going back some years ago I was touched by her and her tragic end, they should do another film on her as much as I love Elizabeth and Mary Queen of Scots, Lady Jane Grey should be told again to our younger generations. Really enjoying your vids and will definitely be getting your book.
Wow! I forgot they were that young when they were beheaded! A shame that because as long as someone was alive, they were deemed to be a threat to the Crown. But, that’s just the way it was in Tudor times. I enjoy your daily talks immensely. Thank you, Claire!
The person I feel sorry for is Guildford Dudley. First his parents give him an awful name, then he is pushed into marrying Jane Grey and executed with her almost as an afterthought. No one seems to have asked him if he'd like to convert and live. (And BTW, I would LOVE to hear about someone who didn't play by the rules as they went to their death! I suppose they were afraid the executioner would deliberately botch the job.)
I love your videos so much! I’m learning so much about the Tudors that I had absolutely no idea about! So many myths that I thought were truths. Thank you so much
The Greys are so interesting, they should get more focus. The succession game of the Greys reaches even into Elizabeth's reign. In simplistic terms: because she ticked enough boxes to be a better and quicker choice for getting a protestant male heir. Mary eliminated Jane as a threat, once Elizabeth inherited the throne she feared that the remaining younger Grey sisters would marry and produce heirs and challenge her throne. Real life is (was) way more dramatic than fiction!
@@annettefournier9655 Henry VIII put them back in the line of succession but did not legitimize them. Edward disinherited Mary by claiming her illegitimacy, but he couldn't disinherit her for that and not do so for Elizabeth.
Their story is very moving indeed. Would you ever want to do a video on Jane and her rise and fall in the future? As all the Tudor women she appeals to me very much, yet I know so little about her. Most of the things I’ve read about her aren’t very factual or sympathetic towards the Dudley family either.
I'm always struck by the grace and valor many who really didn't deserve to die went to their deaths. I'm sure they'd be dragging me to the block kicking and screaming.
Jane and Dudley's story always makes me sad. She's judged because of nine days where someone else put her there. I've never been able to understand Bloody Mary for her acquiescing to the blood lust. Why not have allowed the two of them live in exile? The film "Lady Jane" with Helena Bonham Carter and Cary Elwes just makes me cry when at Jane's execution she kneels and fumbles for the block. I have to wonder if I would have been that brave at sixteen? Likely not.
It’s ludicrous to me to die over “words.” Personally, if ever threatened with torture I WILL confess to killing Abraham Lincoln. Also drives me nuts how people go willingly to the block. If you’re taking my life you WILL have to work for it.
Hey Claire watching this video at four this am, and didn't realise that this couple were sooo young, sooo desperately sad wasn't it???? Have a great day Paula in sussex
I had missed, or had forgotten, that Jane and her husband had been teenagers when they were executed. How very sad. As I watch so many videos about all of the executed people buried in that chapel, I marvel at the sheer number whose remains must lie there. What is the total? I've been to the Tower, but it was long ago and I only remember seeing one spot with some sort of plaque about those beheaded...maybe it was Tower Green, and I remember the ravens and learning about how their wings are clipped so that they can't leave because they must not leave or Britain will fall. And I think I saw where Sir Walter Raleigh had been held. Must return there some day. I love your videos especially because they are full of so much that the people of those times had to say. I am very interested in contemporary accounts. Thank you, Claire!
I couldn’t imagine what some of them went through. I remember seeing the carvings when I visited the tower and had no idea at some of the history behind it. Also, how many does the chapel hold under its floors?
I was fine up until the ends listening at the historical facts. But then the brother’s symbolism, jane’s name, and the innocence of it all.... I’m not crying, you are
Jane was only sixteen? And Guildford was only eighteen?? My God, I had no idea. They were just kids. Probably manipulated by the greed and power mad families. Very sad. Thanks Claire, great video.
I understand that politically, Mary had few choices regarding Jane. I am however, honestly flummoxed at her complete lack of compassion for religious devotion, as her mother and she suffered so for the same. I don't like to think of her actions as vengeful. She is such a tragic, abused figure. Still, her edicts were so cruel as to decry that element. To torture into obedience / deference/ " conversion" ??? Simply does not bear out as " devout" ...and Mary was an incredibly well educated ( albeit horrifically maltreated) young woman. I vary between anger and sympathy .
Will the tour be in May again next year? I really am going and I am sad I cant this year. I really hope we get to go see the carvings you mentioned! It's so sad! I will probably embarrass myself and cry. Thank you for another wonderful video! I look forward to them everyday!
I wish I would’ve known this before I visited the tower!! I need to go back and see it again! Can you tell me where in the tower other prisoners were kept? Were most people kept in the Beauchamp (sp?) Tower?
When I visited the Tower of London , There were couple areas in the Tower was closed of with glass panels. The areas closed off looked like narrow steps. Would you know what was there ? Was it a sacred area ?
A French swordsman was brought over specifically for Anne's execution. Beheadings were not a precise science. Executioners often performed the deed drunk or hung over (trying to dull the reality of their gruesome job) and it wasn't uncommon for victims to be missed and/or literally hacked at. Anne feared that could happen to her and begged Henry VIII to permit her a professional French swordsman for her execution. Oddly enough, Henry VIII granted Anne the final request, and that may help explain Anne's generosity towards Henry during her scaffold speech
Claire, you refer to a good book you read about the true character of LJG. I did not catch the name of an author. Perhaps it was in the video about the four queens who died. Can you recommend something please?
In a time when the King was omnipotent, Howard played the frivolous tart. In a time when religion was paramount, she shed every lesson and disregarded every warning. Her 'misfortune', if it existed, was surely that shared by every woman of her age. Her every mistake was committed with eyes wide open.
Is anything known about Princess Elizabeth's feelings regarding Queen Jane's execution? I imagine she drew some kind of important lesson from it, but that is only a guess.
On the subject of the Greys... I would recommend reading 'Sisters of Treason' by Elizabeth Fremantle if you haven't already. It starts out with the execution of Jane, and then continues out in the eyes of Katherine and Mary Grey. It's a good read, and gives alot of detail on Mary and Elizabeth throughout their reigns.
Another big event that happened on this day that effected Catherine of Aragon and contributed to this event: ; February 12, 1502 : The foraged was conversions of Muslims in Spain to Catholicism were enacted through a series of edicts outlawing Islam in the lands of the Spanish Monarchy, The Crown of Castile.
For the executions? There is a very detailed contemporary account in "The chronicle of Queen Jane, and of two years of Queen Mary, and especially of the rebellion of Sir Thomas Wyat written by a resident in the Tower" ed. John Gough Nicholas. You can read that for free on Archive.org.
Lady Jane Grey was sacrificed because of her royal blood and I think she is one of the most tragic figures in history, her very youth and wisdom died on the scaffold all because her cousin, the young boy King Edward V1 had left her his crown, Jane herself was painted as meek like a sacrificial lamb by the Victorians but she was a proper firebrand, passionate almost fanatical in her devotion to the Protestant faith and whilst Queen, showed a strength of character that irked her father in law Robert Dudley and husband, who had hoped to be crowned as King consort, even fear of the axe did not deter her from forsaking her religion for Catholicsm which shows how fearless she was, and she inspired respect in the priest who Queen Mary had sent to her, Jane was intellectually superior to all of her contemporaries put together, except her cousin King Edward, she loved books and studying and her parents were very proud of her, she could have lived another fifty years had her parents not been so foolish in their quest for the throne, her execution speech is admirable, no recriminations no reproofs, merely a wish to be received into the arms of her maker and live with him in eternal bliss, she had seen the cart carrying her husband Guildford Dudley's body trundle past her window, and she expressed regret but there was no sign of the horror that would have made a more delicate person swoon, her turn was next and I heard a tale once that when she saw the axe, her hair Tudor red, turned white with shock, Jane was only young the youngest of the Towers victims to be beheaded, she was of delicate build, she was short and described as having a pleasant face, a short straight nose and deep red lips, scattering of freckles and her colouring was like her two cousins, Queen Mary and the Lady Elizabeth, she must have made a pitiable corpse and everyone noted that the blood flow from her mangled body was a huge amount as she was so slight, as the blood beat down on the straw from the broken body slumped over the block, far away in her family home at Bradgate in Leicestershire the gardeners felled the heads of the oak trees in silent tribute to their dead mistress, they did not forget their Lady Jane, neither it seemed did the judge who condemned her as he died not long after, and called out in torment that he could see the Lady Jane - no doubt he had been uncomfortable in condemning a young girl to death, traitor though the law said she was, but it showed the effect this strange young woman had on so many, her father also was executed and she had written him a note forgiving him for the part he had played in her senseless death, her mother was pardoned though, after all a wife obeys her husband in all things so surely she should be exonerated from the foolish plot to put her daughter on the throne, Mary and France's had grown up together and we're both very fond of each other, it just goes to show how forgiving she actually was, because France's has a lovely Tomb in Westminster Abbey, whilst both her husband and daughter lie in traitors graves.
Weren't these plants Latin names chosen by botanists to honor those historical figures? Because the use of the current taxonomy system started with Linnaeus in XVIII century. Or is it an older taxonomy system?
While re-searching my family tree I was shocked to discover that Lady Jane Grey would be a Cousin of mine . Her grandmother Margaret Wotton Grey is an Aunt and her parents are my 14th G.G. Parents , same as Princess Diana . This is a very interesting history , but such a Sad and Cruel era in time .
All of the Dudleys were implicated as their father helped put Jane on the throne, but the Dudley sons weren't heavily involved, apart from Guildford, so were eventually released.
Lady Jane Grey (or Queen Jane?) One of the many many tragic figures in Tudor History, a young woman executed because of the pressure put upon her to accept the crown by a group of men who were determined to exclude a catholic for their own selfish interests. As I understand it Jane was initially reluctant to accept the crown. I also think Mary was reluctant to execute her but once again due to the pressure of her council (all men) she was advised to do so. Gosh England was a 'bloody' country to live in during that period.
It's sad that a young girl was executed. But perhaps we shouldn't romanticize Jane. She was as zealous a Protestant as Mary I was a Catholic. She might have been a female Knox. Would she have burned Catholics?
Lovely talk. I have a fascination for Lady Jane Grey, and I think what is saddest is not only their bravery and youth and the clinical brutality of the times, and the way such young people were seen as assets and manipulated by those in power, but also the fact that she is the forgotten queen - never listed in the royal line or acknowledged, as if her very short time named as queen were an embarrassment. I remember as a girl scratching “Jane” defiantly on my school ruler which showed the kings and queens, with an arrow to the gap where she would have been...
In reality she was perhaps one of the most intelligent and educated young women of her age, and we can only now wonder at what she might have become. Rest in peace, Jane.
Yeah, I know there are endless technical definitions of a monarch, but I'm always annoyed at Jane being left out. And I know the Empress Matilda was never *called* a queen, just the "Lady of England", but Oliver Cromwell often gets in the list & he definitely wasn't a king!
I’m always relieved when an execution is performed cleanly. The idea of 2 or more strokes is too appalling to comprehend.
Me too! The executions of Margaret Pole and Thomas Cromwell, plus that of Mary, Queen of Scots, were awful.
I with you! My husband agrees it's awful but will tell me to remember it's all over for them and they arent in pain now. But still... they have all been gone for so long but yet their lives feel just as vibrant and alive to me.
@Philip Lorenz why can you only have empathy for one set of people? Both had their lives taken. Anne Boleyn was relieved Henry had granted her the swordsman but do you think she still wasn't afraid? How about all the wealthy people who were struck multiple times?
In the end, they were all wronged & I have empathy for them as human beings.
@Philip Lorenz Nobility *also* got hanged drawn & quartered; it was just whether the monarch was feeling merciful.
@Philip Lorenz sadly, the average Joe was hanged.....not from a scaffold (where the neck might break), just hung by the neck until they suffocated. I have read that it sometimes took hours (if the rope did not cut off their breathing or blood supply to the brain). Ugh. Poor Robert Aske was hanged in chains...so the chains were wrapped around his body, and he took days to die. Torment.
Thank you for this. I've just finished reading Eric Ives' book on Lady Jane and, by the end of it, I found myself believing that Jane had a stronger legal claim to the throne than did Mary Tudor, but sadly, not the support of the public. The accounts of Jane's and Guildford's executions, even though these occurred more than 460 years ago, are still very poignant and moving. Both apparently met their ends with great dignity.
Two videos in one day? You're spoiling us Claire.
I am indeed!
I look forward everyday to my Tudor talk ! I learn so many new things daily and today’s mini lecture is no exception. I had not known about the stone carvings of the Dudley’s especially the one for Lady Jane Grey. It’s all so hauntingly beautiful and poignant.
Another one that hits me is the carving of an uncrowned falcon. Anne Boleyn's badge was a crowned falcon so it is very moving to see it without its crown.
I too feel so sad for the First Queen of England...
Poor Queen Jane- she was an innocent.
I love your channel! I'm a Tudor enthusiast.
Yes, she was. :(
My heart always broke for Lady Jane Grey~ I bought a copy of her prayer book this past summer.
I am just beginning to learn about Jane. My heart is so broken! What a terrible story! She was murdered not executed. 🥺 Thank you for this great talk.💕
I found your channel only a couple of days ago, I am enthusiastically listening to you "talking Tudor" For years my friends have endured me telling them "Tudor tidbits" You are my people Claire, thank you.
Welcome.
Very moving story indeed. After watching, I did an image search for the graffiti in the Beauchamp Tower and was awed by the work of the prisoners. If there is no book yet available on the subject of prisoner graffiti, It would be hoped that someone could produce such a work, for they are truly a form of artwork. Thank you for including them in this video.
I really enjoy these little talks. Thank you so much.
Thank you for making these videos! I love everything Tudor history, royal history etc. I'm binge watching all of your videos. You definitely know your stuff and I enjoy your opinions and focus on the facts rather than the emotions.
I enjoy your vids; love to hear from genuine historians.
Thank you so much. I have always been fascinated with Lady Jane Grey and have wondered what kind of queen she would have been if she was able to retain the throne.
You do such an awesome job Claire thank you
I'm a day behind you. It's still the 11th where I am. The 12th hasn't happened yet for me. Massachusetts.
Me too, I just watch her 2 new videos earlier, then I heard the bell, 3 in one day! Kansas here.
So moving to hear these histories put into personal context. I've read them many times but to be reminded verbally is touching.
Safe to say I'm rather addicted to these video's! Keep then coming please!
Poor Queen Jane Grey-Dudley. May she and her husband rest in Paradise in peace.
Hi Claire 👋 Thanks again for an interesting bit of history! 👸👑🏰🎪
Excellent video. I'm a Tudor nut and you have so much in-depth information. Love it!
Poor brave Jane! Did not waver in her faith at all. I just got your book and now I can follow along everyday. 😁. The only problem is that I get little else done.........!!
Ha! Sorry!
Know what you mean. LOL 😆
Women today have no idea just how blessed we are.
Been fascinated with this short historical piece.
These people were so brave, confidant in their beliefs, honestly , I’d probably be saying anything to save myself from the axe, I think I may be somewhat brave, but axe, I’m afraid I’d be a complete coward!and Jane was so young
I know just what you mean. I like to think that I'd stand up for my beliefs, but with the axe hovering I'm not so sure.
@@anneboleynfiles Heh. I would be wondering if there was a time limit on your final statement otherwise I would be filibustering until everyone fell asleep and I could escape.
Seriously I think I would most likely fall into a "great madness with much lamitations" as the Chroniclers would say. Maybe I could manage "I am not a traitor. If you want my head come and take it." Although that went very badly for The Countess of Salisbury.
I think the great and sudden madness is they way I would go out.
@@carolrondou6161 There was definitely a format that you were expected to stick to - confess that you were deserving of death (due to original sin), praise the monarch etc. and I'm sure someone would have hurried you up if you took too long over it. Saying that, though, George Boleyn took the opportunity to preach quite a sermon!
@@anneboleynfiles There was certainly a ritual for it. The person granted the mercy of decapitation had to be considering how they behaved at their execution would reflect on the family and their own dignity as well.
I think as modern people it's hard for us to understand.
Terry Dodson I think they got a large portion of their bravery from their firm belief in the afterlife and eternity in heaven, closer to god to whom they had devoted their lives. The next life was even more important than the short one on earth as a mortal. Still I would have been terrified of that block.
🇦🇺🦘 Maybe, if the Rebellion had not taken place, Lady Jane Grey and her husband (both so young), may have received the mercy of Mary to be released, as Mary had at first intended. This was not to be. 🔔🔔 Thank you Claire 👑👍
I have always been interested in the tutor years after watching your vlogs I love it even more. So interesting. Thank you so much Claire.
Thank you for the poignancy of their stories.
I’ve softened a bit about Mary Tudor since viewing these videos, but this sent me right back to useless resentment.
These sweet young victims might have lived at least in exile.
Hi Claire. I have only in the last few days discovered your channel (I don't know what took me so long!) but I've now subscribed and working my way through your fascinating and informative videos. I've always been a bit of a history nut but particularly of Tudor history. I think the Tudor interest probably goes back to when I first visited Hampton Court palace as a little one, over 50 years ago. I still have a Henry VIII doll from then who is looking a little moth eaten these days. I could recite his wives and their various demise from since I can't remember when. I have dragged my children along on visits back to Hampton Court and we spent a lovely time at Hever Castle and my enthusiasm for Tudor History has now thankfully been passed on to my daughter. One area of Tudor History that I haven't really read into is that of Queen Jane. Your video has now piqued my interest so I plan to remedy that. Thank you for posting your videos. I am now going to check out your website.
Although I visited the Tower of London in the mid seventies, I was not aware of the involvement of so many non royals who were executed there. The beheading block was on display but the beef eaters only covered a few of the people beheaded there on
I must say , the two had real guts.....to face their end so courageously . to stand on what they believed , in spite of having a way out , especially being youths . I don't know if I could have . very moving , great share as usual...........thank you.......
I find it sad that Guildford tends to get forgotten, when he died with such courage.
@@anneboleynfiles..............YES, SO TRUE...........
Jane is a firm favourite of mine. Thank you.
✨🎬🧡 I love the movie Lady Jane with Helena Bonham Carter and Cary Elwes - I am impressed by her intelligence her devotion to her protestant faith and the line that gets quoted from Plato I believe -about the afterlife which is like wow I just love this movie
I own it on digital so I get to watch it whenever I fancy entering that time. that world!
I love to see Jane and Gilbert fall in love too which is wow I love their story ✨🧡🧡🧡 :)
I was taught in my Tudor Hx course, that Jane and Guildford did not get along, sadly.
I haven't seen that one yet.
clare5 one ✨ I wouldn’t be surprised, they hardly knew each other and under such pressures :)
The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society ✨ It’s pretty good, I don’t know from a ✨🏹History point of view but-it’s pretty good from a movie goers point of you I guess ; it’s awesome to see many of your favourite older actors in their early days I’ve spotted a few-for example the actor John Wood.He’s interesting to watch. :)
Great film
She was only 16? How tragic...
Excellent "on this day in tudor history" episode, thank you!
Jesus, every time I watch a video on executions, the bell tolls! Is this my imagination? Good gracious!
It was hinted that the "Jane" engraving done by Guildford meant his mother, whose maiden name was Jane Guildford. But I don't think that applies here because the symbol of the House of Grey appears under the "Jane" engraving, so this is very likely Guildford's tribute to his wife.
Beautiful words on Lady Jane Grey, after watching the film going back some years ago I was touched by her and her tragic end, they should do another film on her as much as I love Elizabeth and Mary Queen of Scots, Lady Jane Grey should be told again to our younger generations. Really enjoying your vids and will definitely be getting your book.
Wow! I forgot they were that young when they were beheaded! A shame that because as long as someone was alive, they were deemed to be a threat to the Crown. But, that’s just the way it was in Tudor times. I enjoy your daily talks immensely. Thank you, Claire!
One day I hope to visit England. I have always loved this era in English history!
The person I feel sorry for is Guildford Dudley. First his parents give him an awful name, then he is pushed into marrying Jane Grey and executed with her almost as an afterthought. No one seems to have asked him if he'd like to convert and live. (And BTW, I would LOVE to hear about someone who didn't play by the rules as they went to their death! I suppose they were afraid the executioner would deliberately botch the job.)
I love the Tudor rose... Hope you have a great day.
I love your videos so much! I’m learning so much about the Tudors that I had absolutely no idea about! So many myths that I thought were truths. Thank you so much
Thank you! I'm so glad you're enjoying them and learning from them.
Just found your channel and I've been power watching you videos, wonderful stuff.
Love these videos
Hi Claire 🙂 I enjoy watching your videos .
I find this so sad . God rest their souls
I never understood why he didn't name Elizabeth as his successor. She was protestant and his half sister.
Good point, now I am wondering too - maybe because she was labeled a "bastard" same as Mary?
because he claimed that his half sisters were illegitimate and their claims to the thrown invalid
@@jillkelly2751 But their father legitimized and put them back in the line of succession prior to his death.
The Greys are so interesting, they should get more focus. The succession game of the Greys reaches even into Elizabeth's reign. In simplistic terms: because she ticked enough boxes to be a better and quicker choice for getting a protestant male heir. Mary eliminated Jane as a threat, once Elizabeth inherited the throne she feared that the remaining younger Grey sisters would marry and produce heirs and challenge her throne. Real life is (was) way more dramatic than fiction!
@@annettefournier9655 Henry VIII put them back in the line of succession but did not legitimize them. Edward disinherited Mary by claiming her illegitimacy, but he couldn't disinherit her for that and not do so for Elizabeth.
Their story is very moving indeed. Would you ever want to do a video on Jane and her rise and fall in the future? As all the Tudor women she appeals to me very much, yet I know so little about her. Most of the things I’ve read about her aren’t very factual or sympathetic towards the Dudley family either.
I'm always struck by the grace and valor many who really didn't deserve to die went to their deaths. I'm sure they'd be dragging me to the block kicking and screaming.
So senseless all theses needless deaths over religion and politics
Jane and Dudley's story always makes me sad. She's judged because of nine days where someone else put her there. I've never been able to understand Bloody Mary for her acquiescing to the blood lust. Why not have allowed the two of them live in exile? The film "Lady Jane" with Helena Bonham Carter and Cary Elwes just makes me cry when at Jane's execution she kneels and fumbles for the block. I have to wonder if I would have been that brave at sixteen? Likely not.
It’s ludicrous to me to die over “words.” Personally, if ever threatened with torture I WILL confess to killing Abraham Lincoln. Also drives me nuts how people go willingly to the block. If you’re taking my life you WILL have to work for it.
Hey Claire watching this video at four this am, and didn't realise that this couple were sooo young, sooo desperately sad wasn't it???? Have a great day Paula in sussex
Yes, very young and that always hits me when I'm reading up about them. My youngest is 16 and I look at him and just can't get my head around it.
Love your videos buying your book for Christmas 🎄
I had missed, or had forgotten, that Jane and her husband had been teenagers when they were executed. How very sad.
As I watch so many videos about all of the executed people buried in that chapel, I marvel at the sheer number whose remains must lie there. What is the total? I've been to the Tower, but it was long ago and I only remember seeing one spot with some sort of plaque about those beheaded...maybe it was Tower Green, and I remember the ravens and learning about how their wings are clipped so that they can't leave because they must not leave or Britain will fall. And I think I saw where Sir Walter Raleigh had been held. Must return there some day.
I love your videos especially because they are full of so much that the people of those times had to say. I am very interested in contemporary accounts.
Thank you, Claire!
People made an error wanting queen mary over queen jane
Poor Queen Jane Gray.
I couldn’t imagine what some of them went through. I remember seeing the carvings when I visited the tower and had no idea at some of the history behind it. Also, how many does the chapel hold under its floors?
We saw these carvings this summer. It was very moving to know they were locked up and carving the walls.
I was fine up until the ends listening at the historical facts. But then the brother’s symbolism, jane’s name, and the innocence of it all.... I’m not crying, you are
I guess I’m late to this party. Did I miss the photos of the carvings in the tower you were going to show us?
It must have been heart breaking seeing her trying to find the place to lay her head for the final time. She died so bravely, for one so young.
Have just started your book on George boelyn v interesting so far.
On this day in tudor history is coming tomorrow
Thank you so much!
I have trouble understanding what crime she is guilty of. Didn’t Edward proclaim her queen in his will?
Of the many executed in the Tower, Lady Jane Grey is the one I feel worst about. So poorly used by those who would seize power.
Jane was only sixteen? And Guildford was only eighteen?? My God, I had no idea. They were just kids. Probably manipulated by the greed and power mad families. Very sad. Thanks Claire, great video.
I understand that politically, Mary had few choices regarding Jane. I am however, honestly flummoxed at her complete lack of compassion for religious devotion, as her mother and she suffered so for the same. I don't like to think of her actions as vengeful. She is such a tragic, abused figure. Still, her edicts were so cruel as to decry that element. To torture into obedience / deference/ " conversion" ??? Simply does not bear out as " devout" ...and Mary was an incredibly well educated ( albeit horrifically maltreated) young woman. I vary between anger and sympathy .
Will the tour be in May again next year? I really am going and I am sad I cant this year. I really hope we get to go see the carvings you mentioned! It's so sad! I will probably embarrass myself and cry.
Thank you for another wonderful video! I look forward to them everyday!
I hope so, yes. I get very moved at the Tower!
This is such a sad story, they were children.
Yes, it hits me because I have children of that age. So sad.
I wish I would’ve known this before I visited the tower!! I need to go back and see it again! Can you tell me where in the tower other prisoners were kept? Were most people kept in the Beauchamp (sp?) Tower?
When I visited the Tower of London , There were couple areas in the Tower was closed of with glass panels. The areas closed off looked like narrow steps. Would you know what was there ? Was it a sacred area ?
I love that bookshelf in the background what kind is it?
I think it was from IKEA
Why didn't they use a sword as they did with Anne Boleyn?? Why the axe? So brutal!!
A French swordsman was brought over specifically for Anne's execution.
Beheadings were not a precise science. Executioners often performed the deed drunk or hung over (trying to dull the reality of their gruesome job) and it wasn't uncommon for victims to be missed and/or literally hacked at.
Anne feared that could happen to her and begged Henry VIII to permit her a professional French swordsman for her execution. Oddly enough, Henry VIII granted Anne the final request, and that may help explain Anne's generosity towards Henry during her scaffold speech
I can imagine there was plenty of time in the Tower to "decorate" your cell. It's all so sad! Was there any happy days in This Day in Tudor History?
Claire, you refer to a good book you read about the true character of LJG. I did not catch the name of an author. Perhaps it was in the video about the four queens who died. Can you recommend something please?
Oh this event took place 401 years exactly before me as I was born on the 12th February 1955
In a time when the King was omnipotent, Howard played the frivolous tart. In a time when religion was paramount, she shed every lesson and disregarded every warning. Her 'misfortune', if it existed, was surely that shared by every woman of her age. Her every mistake was committed with eyes wide open.
Hi Miss Ridgway, who do you think should be queen (Not including the supports)? Queen Mary or Queen Jane?
Is anything known about Princess Elizabeth's feelings regarding Queen Jane's execution? I imagine she drew some kind of important lesson from it, but that is only a guess.
On the subject of the Greys... I would recommend reading 'Sisters of Treason' by Elizabeth Fremantle if you haven't already. It starts out with the execution of Jane, and then continues out in the eyes of Katherine and Mary Grey. It's a good read, and gives alot of detail on Mary and Elizabeth throughout their reigns.
That lintel looks ancient. I am new to this channel, but it looks like we are being addressed from a very old English house...
It's a 365 year-old Spanish house. I live in Andalucía, un southern Spain.
The Spanish ambience delegitimises the entire enterprise. Shod be in the gardens of heever castle or Hampton Court
On that day Lady Jane had a breakfast of museli and a small strawberry yoghurt. Dudley had a boiled egg and toast.
Another big event that happened on this day that effected Catherine of Aragon and contributed to this event: ; February 12, 1502 : The foraged was conversions of Muslims in Spain to Catholicism were enacted through a series of edicts outlawing Islam in the lands of the Spanish Monarchy, The Crown of Castile.
Mary was such a demon.
Where can we find source documents for this?
For the executions? There is a very detailed contemporary account in "The chronicle of Queen Jane, and of two years of Queen Mary, and especially of the rebellion of Sir Thomas Wyat written by a resident in the Tower" ed. John Gough Nicholas. You can read that for free on Archive.org.
"The spanish ambassador"
Spanish bells fo off :D
Mary was under pressure from Spain to act because of her forthcoming marriage to Philip of Spain. Mary was under pressure from all sides, sadly.
The painting by Delaroche in the National Gallery gets me every time!!
Me too!
Lady Jane Grey was sacrificed because of her royal blood and I think she is one of the most tragic figures in history, her very youth and wisdom died on the scaffold all because her cousin, the young boy King Edward V1 had left her his crown, Jane herself was painted as meek like a sacrificial lamb by the Victorians but she was a proper firebrand, passionate almost fanatical in her devotion to the Protestant faith and whilst Queen, showed a strength of character that irked her father in law Robert Dudley and husband, who had hoped to be crowned as King consort, even fear of the axe did not deter her from forsaking her religion for Catholicsm which shows how fearless she was, and she inspired respect in the priest who Queen Mary had sent to her, Jane was intellectually superior to all of her contemporaries put together, except her cousin King Edward, she loved books and studying and her parents were very proud of her, she could have lived another fifty years had her parents not been so foolish in their quest for the throne, her execution speech is admirable, no recriminations no reproofs, merely a wish to be received into the arms of her maker and live with him in eternal bliss, she had seen the cart carrying her husband Guildford Dudley's body trundle past her window, and she expressed regret but there was no sign of the horror that would have made a more delicate person swoon, her turn was next and I heard a tale once that when she saw the axe, her hair Tudor red, turned white with shock, Jane was only young the youngest of the Towers victims to be beheaded, she was of delicate build, she was short and described as having a pleasant face, a short straight nose and deep red lips, scattering of freckles and her colouring was like her two cousins, Queen Mary and the Lady Elizabeth, she must have made a pitiable corpse and everyone noted that the blood flow from her mangled body was a huge amount as she was so slight, as the blood beat down on the straw from the broken body slumped over the block, far away in her family home at Bradgate in Leicestershire the gardeners felled the heads of the oak trees in silent tribute to their dead mistress, they did not forget their Lady Jane, neither it seemed did the judge who condemned her as he died not long after, and called out in torment that he could see the Lady Jane - no doubt he had been uncomfortable in condemning a young girl to death, traitor though the law said she was, but it showed the effect this strange young woman had on so many, her father also was executed and she had written him a note forgiving him for the part he had played in her senseless death, her mother was pardoned though, after all a wife obeys her husband in all things so surely she should be exonerated from the foolish plot to put her daughter on the throne, Mary and France's had grown up together and we're both very fond of each other, it just goes to show how forgiving she actually was, because France's has a lovely Tomb in Westminster Abbey, whilst both her husband and daughter lie in traitors graves.
Elizabeth Tilney was dead by then the one I’m thinking of is Katherine Howard’s grandmother unless there’s another one
Weren't these plants Latin names chosen by botanists to honor those historical figures? Because the use of the current taxonomy system started with Linnaeus in XVIII century. Or is it an older taxonomy system?
While re-searching my family tree I was shocked to discover that Lady Jane Grey would be a Cousin of mine . Her grandmother Margaret Wotton Grey is an Aunt and her parents are my 14th G.G. Parents , same as Princess Diana . This is a very interesting history , but such a Sad and Cruel era in time .
Great stuff .. but poor Jane only 16
How was Robert Dudley able to avoid getting involved?
All of the Dudleys were implicated as their father helped put Jane on the throne, but the Dudley sons weren't heavily involved, apart from Guildford, so were eventually released.
He was married to Amy Robsart, otherwise his father might have married him to Jane instead.
@@anneboleynfiles LOL
When has level of involvement ever stopped a Tudor monarch from executing someone?
Lady Jane Grey (or Queen Jane?) One of the many many tragic figures in Tudor History, a young woman executed because of the pressure put upon her to accept the crown by a group of men who were determined to exclude a catholic for their own selfish interests. As I understand it Jane was initially reluctant to accept the crown. I also think Mary was reluctant to execute her but once again due to the pressure of her council (all men) she was advised to do so. Gosh England was a 'bloody' country to live in during that period.
Ahh just realised how Queen Jane was related to Henry VIII
Jane was kin to Henry 8 the same as Mary Queen of Scots. Both were 1st cousins once removed to Mary, Elizabeth, and Edward Tudor.
They were both so young very sad
Great.
It's sad that a young girl was executed. But perhaps we shouldn't romanticize Jane. She was as zealous a Protestant as Mary I was a Catholic. She might have been a female Knox. Would she have burned Catholics?
I have that book :D