Attack on Titan Season 4 (Final Season) - Opening | My War REACTION

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Attack on Titan Season 4 (Final Season) - Opening | My War REACTION
    I reacted to Attack on Titan Season 4's opening. After watching the first episode of Season 4, I am hyped for what this final season has to offer. I skipped over the opening, so I can record my genuine reaction to the opening visuals and song. Are you all hyped for Sunday? Every Sunday is a treat for me!

Комментарии • 233

  • @reizor5276
    @reizor5276 3 года назад +103

    Well, for me ,as a manga reader, this opening is just the best of all the Shingeki No Kyojin Openings

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +5

      I am glad to hear that! I can not wait until I understand WHY. :D

    • @reizor5276
      @reizor5276 3 года назад +3

      @@HorHey If like Mappa said the anime will contain all the manga in just 16ep so there is not a long time to understand the opening, it's rich on spoiler but the spoilers are so deep that only Manga readers will understand it

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +2

      @@reizor5276 I heard that Isayama wants to end the story with the anime before the manga. I am HYPED.

    • @zoopbooperdooper3272
      @zoopbooperdooper3272 3 года назад

      @@HorHey I actually didn’t know that

  • @ggeenneeee
    @ggeenneeee 3 года назад +103

    bro i got goosebumps when it said “monster” and it zoomed in on eren’s titan

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +11

      FACTS BRUH! What is Eren thinking inside his head now :OO

    • @ggeenneeee
      @ggeenneeee 3 года назад +2

      @@HorHey my mans a savage in the manga

    • @Barri2410
      @Barri2410 3 года назад +9

      It's "Rastis!"

    • @tatakaw310
      @tatakaw310 3 года назад +2

      @@HorHey you will never know :)

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      @@tatakaw310 Erehhhhh :O

  • @sanamono8186
    @sanamono8186 3 года назад +337

    I don't understand people saying this opening is trash

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +75

      I have never heard a bad AOT opening. The lyrics are brilliant, the beats are carefully crafted, and the symbolism is immaculate.

    • @lengchinlungum1950
      @lengchinlungum1950 3 года назад +36

      They r normies 😂😂
      Only weebs can feel dis song. 😎

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +15

      @@lengchinlungum1950 LMAOOO factsss

    • @Singleton292
      @Singleton292 3 года назад +4

      It’s probably because the cgi

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +18

      @@Singleton292 the cgi is actually cool i don't get why folks are complaining.

  • @JestJuster
    @JestJuster 3 года назад +132

    "Children clinging on to their very last coins"
    You dont ever want to know what it implies.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +16

      Bruhhhhh I do not want to guess, but I have a feeling it deals with Eren, Armin, and Mikasa. NO SPOILERS PLEASE LOL

    • @juanhurtado3209
      @juanhurtado3209 3 года назад +18

      @@HorHey Just gonna tell you the day you understand the reference you would preffer not to. This anime is so freackin' epic!!! 💯

    • @readyforyourliez3054
      @readyforyourliez3054 3 года назад +13

      @@juanhurtado3209 It's so dark, my gosh. But no spoilers here. :(

    • @artxroyalty
      @artxroyalty 3 года назад +3

      Yoooo I just got the reference...that is dark

    • @readyforyourliez3054
      @readyforyourliez3054 3 года назад

      @@artxroyalty yes. :/

  • @ardello1299
    @ardello1299 3 года назад +61

    The birds are a symbol of freedom in this show so seeing the birds fall in the opening means there is no freedom

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +8

      Oooh that's an interesting interpretations.

  • @mr_archer44
    @mr_archer44 3 года назад +38

    I'm sorry but if anyone calls "My War" trash, I'm gonna throw hands

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +4

      FACTS BRUH

    • @mr_archer44
      @mr_archer44 3 года назад +4

      @@HorHey ikr!? And people DARE call it the worst

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +4

      @@mr_archer44 those have lack of taste

  • @أحمددردر-ز5ه
    @أحمددردر-ز5ه 3 года назад +216

    If you read the manga you will understand everything

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +15

      No reading manga here haha

    • @tatakaw310
      @tatakaw310 3 года назад +4

      :)

    • @Oliverph0enix
      @Oliverph0enix 3 года назад +6

      exactly that what he means by my last war

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +3

      @@Oliverph0enix oh nooooo

    • @Singleton292
      @Singleton292 3 года назад +5

      Well lemme tell you something STUFF IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN

  • @jackfactsreborn9756
    @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад +18

    This opening literally stuck in my head

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      LOOOL every time the clouds show up bruh I get hype every episode

    • @jackfactsreborn9756
      @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад

      @@HorHey same bro

    • @jackfactsreborn9756
      @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад +2

      @@HorHey I have to stay quiet around my friends and it’s so hard cause the only twist they know is Annie being the female titan

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      @@jackfactsreborn9756 LMAOOO yo friends need to catch up. I made all my friends catch up, so we can watch the War Hammer Titan fight last week. THAT WAS DOPE!!

    • @jackfactsreborn9756
      @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад

      @@HorHey yeah lol they always say I have too much time

  • @ryanwinclair479
    @ryanwinclair479 3 года назад +24

    "Angels planning disguised with devils faces" hits differently after chapter 139

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +2

      Alright, I need to read the manga because I am genuinely curious about that line.

  • @guardianzrising3181
    @guardianzrising3181 3 года назад +8

    this op is good cuz its no spoiler for anime watcher but its a fanservice for manga reader

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Nicely said haha

  • @elpato7478
    @elpato7478 3 года назад +12

    “Children clinging to their last coins “
    “You are the real enemy”
    No spoilers here bro, but my gosh the children clinging to their last coins was sooo emotional 😭

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Bruhh everyone keeps saying that. It seems like it's a big deal to the plot.

  • @zoraidataala8588
    @zoraidataala8588 3 года назад +11

    Are there spoilers in the opening
    Manga readers: no but actually *yes*

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Haha I can see why. I think the spoilers are mainly in the form of symbolism. ;o

  • @keidman8780
    @keidman8780 3 года назад +14

    god his audio is so good when he started talking i got startled because i thought someone was behind me

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      My audio?

    • @keidman8780
      @keidman8780 3 года назад +2

      @@HorHey yeah it's very good

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@keidman8780 Haha thank you!

  • @michytsukishima2411
    @michytsukishima2411 3 года назад +10

    There a 2 types of ppl watching the s4 op at the first time
    person 1: meh
    Person 1 2nd time: LALALALA LADIDADADIDIDIDA
    Person 2: 1st time: wOw

  • @butterydawg5135
    @butterydawg5135 3 года назад +10

    Honestly the bombing parts kinda looked like napalm bomb drops since the colors went everywhere kinda resemble the flames of a napalm bomb.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Wow good observation! You know your history.

  • @redheadriot11
    @redheadriot11 3 года назад +12

    "is that the founding titan?"
    yes'nt

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      The founding titan scaryyyy ~

  • @konstantinoskoutlas7608
    @konstantinoskoutlas7608 3 года назад +16

    Wait till you get the "eren did nothing wrong" episode🤣

  • @miunah6591
    @miunah6591 3 года назад +8

    This anime has turned so dark making eren not a hero anymore and then this Opening and its meaning and I can’t take out the gibberish that sounds like Spanish sayin “you’ll live life alone” and I’m more scared cuz I haven’t seen the manga but don’t want to cuz I need to see this animated

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Same bruh I am not a manga reader. I heard the story will finish with the anime first. Isayama wants the anime to release the ending before the manga chapter. I AM HYPED! And nice serve Yamaguchi!

    • @floxer
      @floxer 3 года назад

      @@HorHey
      The manga has 2 chapters left. So 2 months: about 8 weeks / 8 episodes.
      Then the anime would probably have covered 2/3 of season 4 content.

  • @YR-jg1gk
    @YR-jg1gk 3 года назад +2

    This song is literally called Eren song. When the verse starts it’s eren talking. The chorus is the perspective of people from Marley. Especially when they call eren a monster, monster , monster!

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Interesting take!

  • @OxO1236
    @OxO1236 3 года назад +4

    I thought the anime was gonna be fighting the colossal titan lol

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Fr LOOOL little did we know the colossal titan is irrelevant to the whole plot

  • @aiden3557
    @aiden3557 3 года назад +2

    the fact the singer made the lyrics up.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      LOOOL they speaking different languages

  • @syahkamal518
    @syahkamal518 3 года назад +5

    I always got a goosebumps everytime I listening to this op

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      It grows stronger with each episode.

  • @JH-un8bo
    @JH-un8bo 3 года назад +2

    I remember when people where shitting on this opening and now everyone loves it, I think that's the toxic part of the AOT fandom we hate on new things but as it grows we love it.
    !!!Manga spoilers, but not really it just says the reactions to the ending!!!
    Like EVERYONE is saying the final chapter is trash, and while I'll agree it wasn't amazing they act like it ruined everything and that the story as a whole sucks now. The ending wasn't what we expected but it wasn't trash, it had so many little details that I remember being stated in earlier chapters, even chapter 1 had multiple connections with the ending and I really enjoyed looking at this and connecting the dots!! I can bet MONEY that in a few months people will say the ending was a Masterpiece because this is how this fandom has been in the past we hate new things then love it. I think in a way it's a coping mechanism for the fact that it's over, but we need to find a healthier one guys 😭😭
    Amazing video btw!!! This is definitely one of my favorite openings

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      You're commentary is genius. I love how you summed up the AOT fandom so effortlessly. I agree with you 100%. The AOT fandom is very radical lol, in the sense that we jump to conclusions or strong opinions right away without looking at the other side. Same thing happened with fans getting triggered over MAPPA's CGI animation. The AOT fandom fails to keep an open mind because we expect the best of the best. However, no anime or story is 100% perfect. The imperfections are what makes these stories human and enjoyable.

  • @DocRetro02
    @DocRetro02 3 года назад +4

    Here comes the rumbling!

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Oh heck nahh

  • @malakasmakisig4716
    @malakasmakisig4716 3 года назад +3

    Ur right about angels planning disguised with the devils faces but i think its about eren and the good guys playing the villain role

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      I can definitely agree with your statement after the recent episode. I am skeptical about Eren and his motives. I can not wait for tomorrow!

    • @malakasmakisig4716
      @malakasmakisig4716 3 года назад +1

      @@HorHey Me too but it only has 1 episode left for the part 1 idk when will the part 2 release

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@malakasmakisig4716 I heard talks about either a season 4 part 2 or movie. I don't know how to feel about a possible move. I prefer part 2 anime tbh.

  • @thatanus4423
    @thatanus4423 3 года назад +4

    Although I'm only watchin the anime I know alot of important facts that happen in the manga and it goes HARD.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Same here! It is so difficult to avoid spoilers when the manga readers type it out :OO

  • @dog1556
    @dog1556 3 года назад +2

    In reality Marleyans are like the Axis Powers and the Paradis/Eldians are the allied forces

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Wow I really like that analogy!

    • @dog1556
      @dog1556 3 года назад

      @@HorHey thank you

  • @marcelgalliard3371
    @marcelgalliard3371 3 года назад +1

    So appearently if you put 0.25 playback speed on the timpstamp 0:09 of the opening, you will se something scary..

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Oh heck nah. I do not want to hear anything scary LOL

  • @jotarokujo3656
    @jotarokujo3656 3 года назад +4

    Oh sorry, I thought it was Jojo part 3 opening because the thumbnail say "End of the world" xD

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Haha you're good Jotaro xD

  • @kikyozoldyck7872
    @kikyozoldyck7872 3 года назад +2

    lmao idk why i laughed when they said monster when showing erens titan

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Same here bruhhhh. AYYE WASSUP CAPTAIN LEVI

    • @kikyozoldyck7872
      @kikyozoldyck7872 3 года назад +1

      @@HorHey AYEEEEE WASSUP TOO

  • @Nipunnhaha
    @Nipunnhaha 3 года назад +4

    1:56 Imma just say "Nuke" manga reader will know

  • @kairisearle2628
    @kairisearle2628 3 года назад +2

    If you don’t like this op your still stuck in sasgeyo

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Aye bruh you said some facts.

    • @kairisearle2628
      @kairisearle2628 3 года назад

      @@HorHey when I saw that I got a like I was like “this better be the s4 and sasgeyo one or I will cry” and here we are 😂😂

  • @crazymelon1452
    @crazymelon1452 3 года назад +1

    Who else saw erens founding titan transforming

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Oooooh...

  • @HI-vb2iq
    @HI-vb2iq 2 года назад

    idk but when I went to go watch it on cinema there was a blank screened one and it said season 5…

  • @redbruh8354
    @redbruh8354 3 года назад

    I saw in the intro, a big skeleton. I think it's Eren founding titan form.

  • @Erenyeager-or4od
    @Erenyeager-or4od 3 года назад

    *T A T A K A I*
    *J U S T R E A D T H E M A N G A*
    *Y O U W I L L C R Y.*

  • @jonah.2003
    @jonah.2003 3 года назад +3

    2:03 bruhhhhhhhh you dont wanna know

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      that line is so random... or maybe not? :OOO

    • @sebastianb.3978
      @sebastianb.3978 3 года назад

      @@HorHey It's not... It's fucking sad :'(

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@sebastianb.3978 ahhh man i am anime only, so i am not ready

    • @sebastianb.3978
      @sebastianb.3978 3 года назад

      @@HorHey That is the Reason I picked up the manga 4 years ago. Couldn't take the wait time and got spoiled constantly anyway.

  • @naikdaun2715
    @naikdaun2715 3 года назад +4

    WW2? WW1 dude! Train with Canon, zappeline, and steam warship

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +6

      I am going to politely disagree because I still think the opening represents WWII. The dropping of "bombs" and the mushroom clouds are symbolic of atomic bombs and the destruction that WWII inflicted on the world. WWII's consequences were much more destructive than WWI. Also, the armband on Marleyans show the tactics Nazi Germany used to identify Jewish people. Regardless, the trailer shows the destruction of war and puts out the message that nobody really wins in total war.

    • @jaubertkeithvirtudazo1388
      @jaubertkeithvirtudazo1388 3 года назад +3

      @@HorHey facts

    • @rinsekai
      @rinsekai 3 года назад +3

      @@HorHey It is a MIX of both. As a manga reader, I can assure you... it's its own war...

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      @@rinsekai I agree that makes sense! This war is going to be insane.

  • @xenon_animation2999
    @xenon_animation2999 3 года назад +6

    Monster, Monster, Monster,
    Camera Point's To Eren*
    (Now You Know Who's The Enemy)

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@xenon_animation2999 Eren is the protagonist or antagonist ?! I can't tell at this point.

    • @xenon_animation2999
      @xenon_animation2999 3 года назад +1

      @@HorHeyEren Is Missing* Will He Reappear between marleyans and eldians result in the war of all war!

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      @@xenon_animation2999 LOL I think so. The trailer is hinting he is going to pop up as the attack titan and attack the city. My guess it's probably going to deal with the Tybur family announcement from the trailer.

    • @أحمددردر-ز5ه
      @أحمددردر-ز5ه 3 года назад

      @@HorHey yep

    • @Barri2410
      @Barri2410 3 года назад +1

      It's "Rastis!"

  • @mori_zom09
    @mori_zom09 Год назад

    I feel the Opening even its a non-living thing

  • @jackfactsreborn9756
    @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад

    Also about the bird thing maybe that means the scouts falling as in losing

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Oh heck nahhhh SCOUTS FOREVER

    • @jackfactsreborn9756
      @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад

      @@HorHey just a theory

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@jackfactsreborn9756 good xD

    • @ardello1299
      @ardello1299 3 года назад +1

      @@jackfactsreborn9756 no its symbolises there is no freedom

    • @jackfactsreborn9756
      @jackfactsreborn9756 3 года назад

      @@ardello1299 I was close

  • @hikarigaming9295
    @hikarigaming9295 3 года назад +1

    THIS SONG IS ALSO THE WW2 EDITION THO isayama gets overview this intro in ww2 so it's why so close to each other

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      The parallels to WW2 are insane :OO

  • @reinerattackk4774
    @reinerattackk4774 Год назад

    Usa when they see oil:

  • @hyn6934
    @hyn6934 3 года назад +2

    If you listened closely at the end, it said monster repeatedly while zooming into the attack titan/Eren's titan...

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Right now, Eren is becoming a monster bruh. He is becoming RUTHLESS.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@ああ-e1e9d What is Noko saying?

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@ああ-e1e9dWhat does that even mean :O

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@ああ-e1e9d yeah it does sounds like monstahhh

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@ああ-e1e9d Thank you!

  • @kiranthakur8793
    @kiranthakur8793 3 года назад

    2:06 u don't want to see that happening, but you will.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Everyone keeps saying this. I am so tempted to read the manga at this point.

  • @ああ-c5p3q
    @ああ-c5p3q 3 года назад +2

    please react to aot ed s4

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Alrightie will do!

  • @shirleyalaybien
    @shirleyalaybien 2 года назад

    Dapz is that you

  • @pugzmanz460
    @pugzmanz460 3 года назад

    not everything is symbolising something

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      You never know man

  • @wwooback4320
    @wwooback4320 3 года назад +2

    Noti gang going viral

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      thanks yo!

  • @Specter-zi1kw
    @Specter-zi1kw 3 года назад

    the real enemy is ymir not eren cause i know ymir is using eren to destroy the world

    • @Specter-zi1kw
      @Specter-zi1kw 3 года назад

      by the way i am new here

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +1

      Ayyoooo chill wit the spoilers :OOO

  • @peachyman8211
    @peachyman8211 3 года назад

    Yes

  • @jsusushs1933
    @jsusushs1933 3 года назад +1

    Read the manga GOOD OPENING!!

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      I will read the manga once the anime concludes.

    • @jsusushs1933
      @jsusushs1933 3 года назад

      @@HorHey Next episode is lit i hope the animation is good

  • @MisterBirju
    @MisterBirju 3 года назад +1

    Eren is the real enemy 💀

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      He better not be

  • @dajitlinnn
    @dajitlinnn 3 года назад

    dudes having hiroshima flashbacks

  • @gensischosen251
    @gensischosen251 3 года назад +3

    let just hope some jerk manga readers didnt ruin and spoiled us anime onlys theroies and fun i got spoiled by 5 times and its suck man its sucks this is why i refused to read manga request from manga readers but i repsect Isayama he is a god tier writer i wish he gonna make a second manga after aot ends and im gonna read it but for the time im stayed a anime only

    • @MasQuerenaOwO
      @MasQuerenaOwO 3 года назад +1

      Same man i got spoiled about some important parts, i just want to read the comments but i barely get out of it without knowing something i didn’t want to know. :(

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад +3

      Facts bruh. AOT is such a great anime that I am not reading the manga because of how amazing the anime is. After watching Season 4, I will probably read the manga because I heard the manga is a masterpiece in itself as well.

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      @@MasQuerenaOwO Be careful!! Try to not read into all comments because some manga readers subtly hint at spoilers and openly write them. It's hard to avoid spoilers, but nothing comes close to the scenes actually getting animated. In a sense, you can still look forward to the direction the anime goes, so all hope is not lost!

    • @sifibruh7055
      @sifibruh7055 3 года назад +1

      seriously I am a manga reader and keep seeming my homies spoil. Don't check the comment section it will spoil some stuff in every youtube video.

    • @gensischosen251
      @gensischosen251 3 года назад

      @@sifibruh7055 but still those people are rude by writing spoilers and good mangareaders wwrote spoiler warning tthere commens whic a good plus but some just wrote a comment without spoiler warning are such jerks heck even some youtubers have spoilers there thumbnails like sppolers warning
      i saw historia is pagnet whic is a huge spoiler for me and another video thumbnail they shown eren new titan and his army of colossal titans also please dont tell me how this happened thou

  • @iwasfromthepast9979
    @iwasfromthepast9979 3 года назад +1

    the rumble starts

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      I AM SCAREDDD

  • @Maaacdimaalaa
    @Maaacdimaalaa 3 года назад

    Of course Marley is the enemy because it's sad gabi killed sasha

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      well i don't think there is a clear enemy. it is all up for interpretation.

  • @dum_dum05
    @dum_dum05 3 года назад

    Ngl when i first watch the opening i thought Eren became hitler or something

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Eren is ruthless now, and he shows no remorse anymore. The kid in him is gone :(

  • @bluewingsprite
    @bluewingsprite 3 года назад

    Last coins, paying Charon?

    • @sebastianb.3978
      @sebastianb.3978 3 года назад

      I could tell you what it means if you want to... but it would spoil a huge chunk of S4 part 2

  • @NerdWhoEdits
    @NerdWhoEdits 3 года назад

    That is end of war the end I think Eren died from the Titans because Eren ran away and other stuff season ITS TOOO MUCH AOT I just finished AOT so now I’m watching hunter x hunter now...

  • @diroowo
    @diroowo 2 года назад

    Manga readers, can you explain the lyrics for me, please? xD

  • @eternal7908
    @eternal7908 3 года назад

    2:04 Halil and Ramzi....

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      ????? No spoilers pleaseeee

    • @eternal7908
      @eternal7908 3 года назад

      @Mew The Pokemon sheesh went all out huh?!💀💀

  • @xrusskie
    @xrusskie 3 года назад +1

    You are the Real Enemy is SPOILER 😁

    • @HorHey
      @HorHey  3 года назад

      Nobody knows who the "REAL" enemy is. It's all up for interpretation.