Gamefreak : Ah, I see what you're saying, Incineroar needs a buff! Intimidate now lowers attack by 2 stages and ignores clear amulet if you're a fire dark type
@@잘못된번호 Really?! That seems like a bit of a weak buff, why stop there! Incineroar now intimidates the opposing pokémon into straight up leaving the battle!
The nerf to the silly tiger is definitely a good thing. It is still used way too much. Maybe gamefreak needs to buff adrenaline orb to trigger on any stat drop or something and boost speed two stages instead. Or maybe a contrary Pokémon that can resist all of Incineroar's moves.
You may not believe this but Incineroar is one of the only things holding the game together. I play vgc probably too much for my own good and Incineroar is one of those “overused because everything else breaks without it” kind of Pokémon. So with clear amulet being a thing it kinda means you suddenly have way less tools to stop a sweep than you used to
When are we gonna get a special variant of Intimidate called Demoralize? Or a special variant of Will O Wisp? Maybe a Ghost move? Seriously why are there so many abilities and effects that seem to just cripple Physical Attackers? Why does it feel like Gamefreak has it out for them?
It's equaled out (mostly) with special pokemon having weaker moves in terms of bp, and stuff like blissy in singles. Frozen should be reworked to a special version of burn tho, seems pretty obvious to have a frostbite status effect instead.
@@akshayreddy4071 until recently too, special boosting was generally rarer outside of calm mind, whereas physical attackers had swords dance, dragon dance, bulk up, etc. while also having potent and wide spread coverage
VGC players: OMG this stupid cat keeps intimidate cycling my Pokémon! What do I do. Game Freak: Here, we made an item called the Clear Amulet that prevents stat reductions like the ability Clear Body. Incineroar: Haha will-o-wisp hold this burn bozo VGC Players: Aw shit, here we go again!
People shouldnt try entei, his sacred fire hits like a truck while also burning any physical restricted aside from ho-oh or it forces tera fire if they have it
I feel like both cover cloak and clear are fine but cover cloak is too broken on prankster tailwind pokemons as they're is isnt much counter play to it especially with dynamic speed in the game. The only way I see to fix this problem is to either stop dynamic speed from prankster tailwind(since icy wind and electro web are balanced imo),outright ban dynamic speed, or take out cover cloak all together .
This video is unironically why I deci to try using an Ice-Calyrex Team. It didn't take me long to reach Masterball tier with a Rental Team I found. I actually just finished getting a 0-Speed Calyrex yesterday and the other Pokemon needed for it other than Flutter Mane (I'm gonna shiny hunt one). The fact that Calyrex learns Trick Room is actually insane to me, and immediately is what made it work for me. I'd rather have more then just Indeedee for setting up Trick Room
Ice Rider is super overtuned, so its not a problem with the item, but the mon. These items lowering Incineroar's strength is fine - just because you are a support mon, doesn't mean you can't be over-centralizing.
Clear amulet and Covert Cloak: Incineroar, your reign of terror i over Incineroar: You sure about that Btw Incineroar is Healthy for competitive either ppl want to admit it or not
Yea the one mom I would say people complain about that is "bad" is urshifu (which let's be honest should be restricted I mean every other dlc legend is on there but not the one dlc legend? Be consistent for once gamefreak)
@@des4929 the regis are not restriced, ogerpon and the loyal three are not restriced, unseen fist should be reworked to do 1/3 of damage through protect
“he’sss ssstill liable” Did you not read the dex entry for Zacian sssaying that it wasss believed to be the older SSSISSSTER of Zamazenta? Don’t misssgender the doggo!
Tbh clear amulet was definitely the wrong way to weaken intimidate, it made the ability borderline useless in some matchups despite its extreme power A better way was probably to nerf the ability itself rather than introduce such an item as it creates the idea of 5 special attackers and clear amulet Personally i would remove the item, making it unobtainable, and nerf intimidate to only activate on the first switch, but also have it lower special attack This makes sense thematically as intimidating an opponent into becoming weaker physically would also probably mess with them mentally, and it would give the ability use in all matchups without being as broken as it was before gen 9, though abilities like clear body and mirror armour should stay to prevent people from stacking multiple intimidate mons and having it dominate And covert cloak is perfect how it is, it provides much needed counterplay to fake out outside pf ghost typing Curious to see what everyone else thinks
@@omegafinisher845 The biggest unfairness with the item is it's absurdly good against status moves that lower the opponent's stats (which were historically weaker than their boosting counterparts or status conditions). Since the usable ones usually lower 2 stages I think this is a good change.
Also, most official tournaments are open team sheet, meaning you don't need to have it announced, you can see it on the paper in front of you. The item was clearly intended to aid with Incinaroar's, the staple of official competitive doubles, fake outs, intimidates, and parting shots, meaning that a hypothetical announcement would not change much.
@@scigaming6860 99.9% of games are played on a ladder and outside of tournaments. There is zero justification to only care about a competitive mode that "nobody" plays.
Pokemon is in desperate need of a bulk buff. We haven't had good bulky Wall Pokemon in what feels like years. Its always a matter of who has the better offense.
The way gamefreak does balance changes is hilarious. They don’t wanna ban or nerf a starter pokemon, so they have to hide it in the form of items and abilities that SPECIFICALLY counter Incineroar.
Ah yes, the items made in direct response to funny cat
Funny sun burnt Tony the Tiger*
That got BUFFED
"Trying to disrupt your opponents ability to be alive" is definitely becoming one of my new favourite quotes.
Items that changed competitive Pokémon
Singles: heavy duty boots
Doubles: clear amulet
And it took nearly 20 years to get them
Don't forget Covert Cloak. Lol.
It is to the point where Tornadus and Thunderous (Doubles) are just automatically assumed to have them
Next generation:
"blindfold"; unaware but in item form.
Current powercreep is going hard.
should lower accuracy tbh
Neutralize Gas, but in item form
Gamefreak: Remember this ability? It's an item now.
Gamefreak : Ah, I see what you're saying, Incineroar needs a buff! Intimidate now lowers attack by 2 stages and ignores clear amulet if you're a fire dark type
Why stop there? Intimidate now Intimidates the enemy into handing over their held item now giving incineroar two held items
@@잘못된번호 Really?! That seems like a bit of a weak buff, why stop there! Incineroar now intimidates the opposing pokémon into straight up leaving the battle!
@@floppy8960nah, it needs to intimidate the opposing trainer into forfeiting
@@cameronmyers5716 nah, make Incineroar's intimidate making your opponents forfeting their consoles to him/her
Why does game freak choose the most cringe designs like Incineroar and make them so good that it's literally impossible to win without them..
Incineroar uses knock-of
And will-o-wisp
And parting shot
@@GyatRizzler69-of3wl dear god
that doesn’t help against covert cloak though (unless theres a weird edge case interaction I dont know about)
@@SourAttmoz theres more
Imagine if we got a defiant/competitive item for true counter play.
Its not an attacking stat boost, but adrenaline orb boosts speed if intimidate hits you.
I thought doubles were now built around what works with and against Incenerior
The nerf to the silly tiger is definitely a good thing. It is still used way too much.
Maybe gamefreak needs to buff adrenaline orb to trigger on any stat drop or something and boost speed two stages instead. Or maybe a contrary Pokémon that can resist all of Incineroar's moves.
You may not believe this but Incineroar is one of the only things holding the game together. I play vgc probably too much for my own good and Incineroar is one of those “overused because everything else breaks without it” kind of Pokémon. So with clear amulet being a thing it kinda means you suddenly have way less tools to stop a sweep than you used to
When are we gonna get a special variant of Intimidate called Demoralize? Or a special variant of Will O Wisp? Maybe a Ghost move?
Seriously why are there so many abilities and effects that seem to just cripple Physical Attackers? Why does it feel like Gamefreak has it out for them?
It's equaled out (mostly) with special pokemon having weaker moves in terms of bp, and stuff like blissy in singles. Frozen should be reworked to a special version of burn tho, seems pretty obvious to have a frostbite status effect instead.
@@akshayreddy4071 Mhm mhm
@@akshayreddy4071 until recently too, special boosting was generally rarer outside of calm mind, whereas physical attackers had swords dance, dragon dance, bulk up, etc. while also having potent and wide spread coverage
I think there are twice as many physical mons in comparison to special mons, but I could be wrong though.
@@RTG_YTC Purely Physical and Leaning-Physical Mixed I’m guessing?
The thumbnail showing Incineroar being afraid of the Clear Amulet is hilarious. :) He's just a big ol' pussycat
VGC players: OMG this stupid cat keeps intimidate cycling my Pokémon! What do I do.
Game Freak: Here, we made an item called the Clear Amulet that prevents stat reductions like the ability Clear Body.
Incineroar: Haha will-o-wisp hold this burn bozo
VGC Players: Aw shit, here we go again!
My glorious king incineroar will have his revenge….
People shouldnt try entei, his sacred fire hits like a truck while also burning any physical restricted aside from ho-oh or it forces tera fire if they have it
Gholdengo with covert cloak: lol what status?
I feel like both cover cloak and clear are fine but cover cloak is too broken on prankster tailwind pokemons as they're is isnt much counter play to it especially with dynamic speed in the game. The only way I see to fix this problem is to either stop dynamic speed from prankster tailwind(since icy wind and electro web are balanced imo),outright ban dynamic speed, or take out cover cloak all together .
fair. id rather they remove prankster than remove covert cloak
I think stopping/removing dynamic speed is better than removing covert cloak
Remove Prankster from Tornadus. Easy
@@dandan4092
Remove tailwind from all prankster Pokemon
Dynamic speed is probably my favourite change ever, so don't get rid of it
Great video. Also love the Zane Duel Links music choice🔥💯
I just use the clear amulet cause it’s one of the only items I understand, and I don’t do competitive
What about leftovers do you Undertale that
@@SourAttmoz do I “undertale” leftovers?
No. I don’t “undertale” it
But I barely use it, I use potions in battles so it’s almost useless
@@pemanilnoobBut do you Deltarune leftovers? 🤔
@@RangeCMYK probably not
This video is unironically why I deci to try using an Ice-Calyrex Team. It didn't take me long to reach Masterball tier with a Rental Team I found. I actually just finished getting a 0-Speed Calyrex yesterday and the other Pokemon needed for it other than Flutter Mane (I'm gonna shiny hunt one). The fact that Calyrex learns Trick Room is actually insane to me, and immediately is what made it work for me. I'd rather have more then just Indeedee for setting up Trick Room
Urshifu, Rilaboom and Incineroar everywhere. I onyl use Celefairy, Malamar, Parchirisu and Amoongus...😅
HAHA THE CAT IS IN SHAMBLE !
Ice Rider is super overtuned, so its not a problem with the item, but the mon. These items lowering Incineroar's strength is fine - just because you are a support mon, doesn't mean you can't be over-centralizing.
There should have been other version of intimidate that can lower special attack, defense and special defense like ruined pokemons
Great video! Love the Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links music :D
Clear amulet has been good for over a year, players are just slow asf lol
Clear amulet and Covert Cloak: Incineroar, your reign of terror i over
Incineroar: You sure about that
Btw Incineroar is Healthy for competitive either ppl want to admit it or not
Yea the one mom I would say people complain about that is "bad" is urshifu (which let's be honest should be restricted I mean every other dlc legend is on there but not the one dlc legend? Be consistent for once gamefreak)
@@des4929 the regis are not restriced, ogerpon and the loyal three are not restriced, unseen fist should be reworked to do 1/3 of damage through protect
Wait koraidon isn't a fire type so how can it be immune to will o wisp
Pls try and make a team around zacian maybe with weezing to stop inicin ability
Neutralizing gas would disable intrepid sword
@@Indoraptorrr well u can send zacia. First then substitute and switch wheezing in
U will have a zacian with boost and wheezing to prevent intimidate
Easier to stick a Defiant/Competitive Pokémon next to Zacian. Or something that threatens Incineroar. Annihilape and Milotic do both for example
@@Indoraptorrr ye ogerpon grass is best it can ohko incin with choice band high horse power
Pole?
hello chat
“he’sss ssstill liable” Did you not read the dex entry for Zacian sssaying that it wasss believed to be the older SSSISSSTER of Zamazenta? Don’t misssgender the doggo!
Tbh clear amulet was definitely the wrong way to weaken intimidate, it made the ability borderline useless in some matchups despite its extreme power
A better way was probably to nerf the ability itself rather than introduce such an item as it creates the idea of 5 special attackers and clear amulet
Personally i would remove the item, making it unobtainable, and nerf intimidate to only activate on the first switch, but also have it lower special attack
This makes sense thematically as intimidating an opponent into becoming weaker physically would also probably mess with them mentally, and it would give the ability use in all matchups without being as broken as it was before gen 9, though abilities like clear body and mirror armour should stay to prevent people from stacking multiple intimidate mons and having it dominate
And covert cloak is perfect how it is, it provides much needed counterplay to fake out outside pf ghost typing
Curious to see what everyone else thinks
BOOST
Hi
I think clear amulet should be nerfed to:
1. Announce itself on entry.
2. Block one stat drop instead of all (so scary face does -1 for instance).
Most stat drops are only -1 anyway, and the item is so popular you could probably just assume that any physical restricted legendary is holding it
@@omegafinisher845 The biggest unfairness with the item is it's absurdly good against status moves that lower the opponent's stats (which were historically weaker than their boosting counterparts or status conditions). Since the usable ones usually lower 2 stages I think this is a good change.
Nearly all relevant stat drop moves are -1. So that's not much of a nerf.
Also, most official tournaments are open team sheet, meaning you don't need to have it announced, you can see it on the paper in front of you. The item was clearly intended to aid with Incinaroar's, the staple of official competitive doubles, fake outs, intimidates, and parting shots, meaning that a hypothetical announcement would not change much.
@@scigaming6860 99.9% of games are played on a ladder and outside of tournaments. There is zero justification to only care about a competitive mode that "nobody" plays.
Pokemon is in desperate need of a bulk buff. We haven't had good bulky Wall Pokemon in what feels like years. Its always a matter of who has the better offense.
I mean we got raging bolt, gouging fire, and Terapagos. I do agree though
@@hefancy6921ting Lu and dondozo too
The way gamefreak does balance changes is hilarious. They don’t wanna ban or nerf a starter pokemon, so they have to hide it in the form of items and abilities that SPECIFICALLY counter Incineroar.