@@kefkapalazzo1 they do, that was explained poorly. ash-greninja doesnt exist anymore because battle bond now raises your stats after you k.o a pokemon. hope this helps!
@Mortis2435 2 problems Tera,steels and dragons: too many things resists knot,things weak to knot can Tera out of the weakness Movepools cuts, a lot less mons get grass knot,and the mons that do get it normally have better,like shaymin sky and seed flare
Obviously, you guys are all sleeping on Delibird. Having either Insomnia or Vital Spirit, already makes it immune to sleep. But imagine the power of both of them together. I imagine a Delibird that's incapable of blinking.
"I always thought it would be fun to be a Christmas Bird. One of Santa's helpers. It was a dream of mine ever since I was a chick...that is, until I joined the team and Santa put this, this CURSE on me. Nobody on the outside realizes it, but Santa's helpers can't sleep--EVER! We have so much work to do for billions of kids, all year long. I'm just so tired..."
Durant would hate this tier. Can only attack every other turn. When it can attack, it doesn’t have full accuracy. And its full strength is only unlocked when it’s at less than 1/3 full HP.
YES! DELIBIRD CAN BE IMMUNE TO HITTING HIS TARGET AND SLEEP AND SLEEP! I thought he had an ability that stopped flinches. Editted the comment to fix it.
@@Skullhawk13 Unaware only works on your opponent's stats, that's why dondozo uses curse on almost every set and why skelidurge uses torch song. They threaten to set up and sweep while ignoring their opponents stat boosts in the process.
@@Toon.Hamstreak_658 I’m pretty sure it replaces the ability selected in the teambuilder. Kind of like how Neutralizing Gas won’t nullify the ability selected in the teambuilder. It could just dynamically replace Trace, but I’ve never thought about it when I used it.
It’s still possible just use loaded dice. What’s crazy is the addition of a choice band or scarf into the mix while maintaining the effect of the loaded dice.
If only Cinccino was better. It's mediocre strength, 4 moveslot syndrome, single item syndrome, and extreme vulnerability to status make it just average. B- or C+ tier
@@nousername191 probably the mega in the newest game coming out. While they are at it, its kind of unfair blastoise and venusaur get abilities? at least ones charizard cant use! Charizard deserves chlorophyll, overgrow, rain dish and torrent.
@@SecureBirch410 Why stop there? It should get Blaze, Torrent, Overgrow, Solar Power, Rain Dish, Chlorophyll, Drought, Tough Claws, Mega Launcher, Thick Fat, Static, Lightning Rod, Surge Surfer, Run Away, Adaptability, Anticipation, Volt Absorb, Quick Feet, Water Absorb, Hydration, Flash Fire, Guts, Synchronize, Magic Bounce, Inner Focus, Snow Cloak, Ice Body, Leaf Guard, Cute Charm and Pixelate. Gets the abilities of all Kanto starters, their evolutions and their forms.
@@SecureBirch410hello I'm from the future and yes super mega charizard gets all of theese abilities plus a signature move that acts like a priority spore and salt cure that affects grass types and ignores the opponent's abilities
Good thing that megas only get their mega ability and not their mega ability+base abilities. Same with alternate forms. For instance, Basculin doesn't get both Rock Head AND Reckless, you have to choose which form
It’s very unfun to play against and constraining to teambuilder in pokebilities. Not quite broken since a lot of teams have counters, but if you aren’t running one it’s just autolose on the spot with no counterplay
It’s not that bad from my experience, but that may mostly be because I was the one using it against a team that countered it and the rest of my team well.
@@44hzama it almost always goes tera-steel to counter both of its type weaknesses. Some even run flame orb over life orb in order to prevent paralysis.
The current showdown ladder's implementation is very very buggy. Many abilities don't work they way they should. So I highly doubt plus minus works, pretty sure they have a flag for "doubles only abilities" and disable that for single battles.
Alolan Ninetales, with snow warning to set up snow, and snowcloak to hide in snow, and then aurora veil, the defence boost from aurora veil, the defence boost from snow, and evasion from snowcloak, Alolan Ninetales sounds like it could get some stuff done
medoicre stats, solar power hurts it and its still not really fast enough with chlorophyll + It cant even set up the sun on its own. If you replaced solar power with drought itd probably good.
@@SecureBirch410 With chlorophyll a max speed tropius does outspeed an unboosted max speed dragapult. However, its mediocre special isnt doing it any favors.
The coolest find I ever found, is that TROPIUS can work. Chlorophyll + Solar Power + Harvest, a Sun Boosted trinity. its stats still suck yes but now it basically gets a free +1 SpAtk and +2 Speed in sun, and you don't care about Solar Power dropping your HP constantly because you have Harvest in combination with a Sitrus Berry to keep you health up, guaranteed in the sun. You add a moveset of Growth, Air Slash, Solar Beam, and Tera Fire Tera Blast, and while sun is up, your opponent has to respect it, else get sweeped by TROPIUS. Also if I may, with it being the OM of the month, take a look at Cross Evolution! it's one of the most crazy OMs around especially considering it's based in Ubers, but with something like Girafarig > Milotic running around with nearly 800 BST, it makes sense.
A friend of mine invited me to play this format and this was LITERALLY my first idea, I used sand veil Garchomp alongside sand veil Cacturne. The rest of the team was Tyranitar, Clefable, Gholdengo and Slaking (I'm a simple man, Stronk Monke + choice band Giga impact = Big Damage = Happy)
Neutralizing Gas is currently bugged (or works normally?) Basically for Galarian Weezing whenever you send it out there's a chance it activates Neutralizing Gas first and prevents all other abilities imemdiately... Or it first activates Misty Terrain AND THEN neutralizes abilities lmao. The current implementation on showdown is random, sometimes one happens other times the other does lol
Usually the ability of the fastest Pokemon on the field sets it up first. I think since wheezing speed ties itself resulting in which activates as random.
If you select NGas in the ability slot, all its abilities will be active, but if you select Levitate or MSurge, only NGas will be active It's a weird issue in the code that we haven't found out yet
I misunderstood the title and thought it meant all abilities from all Pokemon, which would not only be a nightmare to untangle interactions but funny because everyone gets the op abilities but have slow start, truant, and defeatist.
Ngl, this format was hella fun! Well... Except when Basculegion was not banned lol. People were legit running Ability Shield Clodsire purely to counter it lmao. Sidenote: Bronzong is kind of a sleeper hit. Heatproof + Levitate takes away two of its main weaknesses, and its psychic type makes people think kingambit counters, only to have them to switch into an iron defence boosted 4x super effective body press.
I me a n it gives the ability shield a use tho. Personally i don't like that anything is banned from this tier, i mean especially with ability shield, and sometimes things r just strong oh wells
This *was* the case until PSMD iirc. And it's funny that Rivalry was mentioned because at least Gates onward that ability is actually really good and not total garbage like it is in Explorers (and ig Adventure Squad) because rather than being gender-based it's only based on typing which makes it so much better.
i don't think i realized that 85 hp, 70 Def, 75 sDef was considered "incredibly frail" with regard to porygon z never played competitively, but find it interesting anyways
So power creep has gotten so insane in current generations, even 100 defenses / 90 HP pokemon aren't really considered "bulky". Good example is Galarian Slowbro. Also, in the past even 70 def pokemon with full defensive investment can still survive hits and be considered good checks (if they have recovery). A good example is gen 4 breloom which had amazing recovery.
if it were lets say fairy or steel type it could be really strong. But having no resistances, due to being normal, with those average stats means its frail
Alolan Ninetales could be interesting. Snow cloak and snow warning with aurora veil, blizzard, nasty plot, and draining kiss or moonblast could be terrifying.
Minccino gets skill link+ technician+ stab tail slap. Pretty good coverage too, in triple axel, bullet seed, and rock blast. Also gets a pretty solid move pool apart from that too. Kleavor gets sharpness+ sheer force +stab on stone edge. Stone edge being a hundred base power, coming off of a 135 attack stat. Pelipper gets drizzle+ rain dish, and A. Ninetails gets snow cloak+ snow warning.
Thank you so much for working with me to make this video. It was an absolute pleasure assisting with this and I'm glad that the meta will be getting more attention after this!
@@-libertyprimev1-902 does it? I thought the Ability Shield negates any changes to the wielder's ability from moves or other abilities, like Worry Seed, Skill Swap, or Neutralizing Gas; whereas Mold Breaker ignores the effect of abilities allowing for, let's say, a fire type move hitting and dealing damage to a Flash Fire mon; or for any non super effective move hitting Shedinja. You getting my point? Ability Shield would not help
@@Argiemithius no it does counter Mold Breaker, as per your example Flash Fire Heatran holding an Ability Shield cannot be hit by Mold Breaker FlameMask-Ogrepon's Ivy Cudgel.
It was always nice that in mystery dungeon, every pokemon could have 2 abilities. Psyduck having water type to walk on water, plus being immune to weather effects and explosiobs made it incredible in rescue team. The time this is bad though was Riolu being immune to cringe/flinch and getting a boost from being flinched/cringing.
If you were to cover Shared Power, that would be phenomenal, in shared power your Pokémon's abilities are shared with the rest of your team, allowing you to have six abilities, it's a similar concept to pokebilites but the meta itself is VERY different, with plenty of extremely powerful pokemon you wouldn't expect to be good, like iron crown, pinchurchin and indeedee. I tried to make a video on it myself, but with my lack of experience and equipment I don't think I did the tier justice
Haha, this is pretty cool idea. I thought of Gyrados as soon as I saw the video title, and then Freezai mentioned it within the first minute. Very interesting way for some older mons to catch up to modern power creep.
I thought of Scrafty as like a poor man's Gyarados. You are so scared of fairies but fighting is a good offensive type, dark is immune to prankster, and you also get shed skin so you don't have to worry as much about status. Also I really like Scrafty
So every turn you get +4 in one stat and -2 in another. It could get some insane high-rolls, but also having the potential for a boost on the wrong attack stat and cutting one of your defenses or speed in half turn 1 means it’s even more chaotically random than normal moody. 🤔
6:33, it's important to note that Supreme Overlord doesn't boost the attack stat. Its boosts the move itself, same way that burn halves the damage from moves not the attack stat itself.
Your breakdowns of all things pokemon - individual matches (singles doubles or otherwise), metagames, mechanics, is just some of the best ive heard Love all your content
Yeah I immediately thought that too. The best thing from that game is riolu/lucario having steadfast and inner focus which cancel each other out completely lol. There’s also the bronzor line that have no 2x weakness in that game too.
Lanturn would be a funny pivot in this ruleset. It has both Volt Absorb and Water Absorb, so it'll heal for 25% of its health if you switch into a Water or Electric type move. Zebstrika would also make a decent pivot, as it has Lightning Rod + Motor Drive + Sap Sipper. I know Articuno has been rather obnoxious somewhat lately due to a Snow Cloak evasion set with the reworked "Hail", so I imagine it'd be even more obnoxious with Pressure. I see Dugtrio potentially being scary on a sandstorm team. It has Sand Veil and Sand Force to boost evasion and damage, along with Arena Trap. Golurk would throw out some nasty Dynamic Punches, as it has Iron Fist and No Guard. Unfortunately it also has Klutz and no real way to use it (outside of Fling I guess?). I don't quite know if it would work, but Klinklang does have access to both Plus AND Minus. It would be funny if it applied both of those boosts to itself, simply doubling its Special Attack for essentially free.
Pokébilities Doubles would probably make Hisuian Arcanine the best Intimidator since it threatens Incin with recoilless Head Smash and a Flare Blitz swap with Flash Fire, which it can then throw into Incin's allies with no recoil.
I'm shocked Kingambit isn't utterly broken with two of the best offensive abilities in the game on it at once. Intimidate must not be common in this meta
I appreciate this video! I've heard about Pokebilities more than once and it always seemed interesting but not interesting enough for me to look into. This video is exactly for what I was hoping for!
As an avid PMU player, what happens is that Azumarill becomes amazing. Grass immunity along with further Fire and Ice resistances while still having Huge Power. You better have an electric or poison type around.
This reminds me of Pokébilities AAA, a mashup meta where you can use all the normal abilities and an extra one. I made a Hustle Machamp who combined No Guard, Guts, and Hustle to make an insane Dynamic Punch that was effectively 225 Base power, couldn't Miss, and always confused the target. It also ran Stone Edge, which couldn't miss either, and Knock off for coverage, with a final Facade for Fairy types. There was also the popular Talonflame, who could use Magic Guard to avoid using boots, take no damage from the Life Orb, and not lose Gale Wings when using Brave Bird. It was also immune to poisoning and all the other stuff magic guard does. Give it Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, and Roost, and you have a sweeper with a base 120 priority move.
When I first learned about secondary abilities, I thought they worked like this, where a pokemon would always have its base ability and then occasionally would have it's secondary ability on top of that
Imagining this in Gen 6 Doubles. Mega Evos would be kept more in check because they can only have one ability. Ttar Excadrill would be in a much higher tier. Porygon2 would be much more offensive and even exceed Cresselia in usage.
No need to imagine the Pokemon Hack Elite Redux already gives the pokemon 4 abilities the main ability and 3 passives. but you have to choose between three abilities for the main. It also added a bunch of other abilities, an example is that it combined all of the sun abilities into one ability so it's like having a pokemon with 8 abilities.
PokeRogue actually does this! It gives all Pokemon an extra ability they don't get in the main series that you can unlock. The first one I unlocked was Moxie on Flamgio, and it CLEANS
A pokemon that wasn’t mentioned is Cinccino. Even tho cute charm is ass, Skill Link and Technician would tear a hole on a lot of teams considering it learns bullet seed, rock blast, tail slap, and triple axle. Tidy up is also there for a dragon dance and item removal. In terms of an item, you have the option of choice items and life orb
I wanna make a case for Flygon. Because it would've been stupid for a winged creature with the word FLY in its name to not be airborne, Trapinch loses all 3 of its abilities for Levitate upon evolution, but that never really sat right with me so I'd like to propose some tweaks for Flygon's case: Levitate, Sand Stream and Compound Eyes (these are picks based on its physical characteristics over meta)
8:00 Honestly, singles is such a foreign world to me already, this format just makes it worse. Ah yes, top meta threats like Great Tusk and *Clodsire*.
It's not that difficult to believe Clodsire is already a great special wall with great ability options in Unaware, Water Absorb and Poison Point This meta allows you to use all those abilities at once, so naturally it's going to be very good.
I was zoning out and saw the title, and thought there was only going to be pokemon that had ALL the abilities and it was going to be some math stuff about who is the most powerful pokemon then
I thought of this agessss ago, and one of the most fun Pokemon I came across when diving into the idea was Heliolisk, it'd make a really interesting 'mon to go into a weather team. Sand Veil to boost evasion in sandstorms, Dry Skin to heal in the rain, and Dry Skin and Solar Powered boosts special attack in the sun but also damages it over time
Okay but to be fair, if Hidden Abilities are accessible it should be made so that Pokemon can only have 2 abilities and the Hidden Ability replaces one of them
Theres actually an Emerald hack with this feature called Elite Redux. The hack also adds abilities based on Pokedex entries, like most Pokemons that stated they prey on other Pokemons gets an ability that recover their HP upon K.O.
I think this is exactly how abilities work in the Mystery Dungeon games (at least in Sky and Darkness, I'm not sure if it carried over to the others) so Luxray can have both Rivalry and Intimidate.
If I saw a protean ash greninja I’d cry
there buddy you can just... look away.
you wont dw, battle bond greninja is an alternate pokemon entirely in the game's code
@@leonshirogane5541the image of it decimating my team would be burned into my blind unfortunately
@@ttttttttttttttttt.they don’t have a gen 7 any ability?
@@kefkapalazzo1 they do, that was explained poorly. ash-greninja doesnt exist anymore because battle bond now raises your stats after you k.o a pokemon. hope this helps!
How about Duraludon with both Heavy Metal and Light Metal? Y'all are sleeping on the Average Metal demon
Oh dang that’s awesome, light metal for taking low kick, but also heavy metal for that strong heavy slams! Average metal gonna go hardd
@Mortis2435
2 problems
Tera,steels and dragons: too many things resists knot,things weak to knot can Tera out of the weakness
Movepools cuts, a lot less mons get grass knot,and the mons that do get it normally have better,like shaymin sky and seed flare
Schrödinger’s Metal
Duraludon has reached enlightenment
Oh hell naw duraludon collapsed on itself and turned into a black hole
Obviously, you guys are all sleeping on Delibird. Having either Insomnia or Vital Spirit, already makes it immune to sleep. But imagine the power of both of them together. I imagine a Delibird that's incapable of blinking.
"I always thought it would be fun to be a Christmas Bird. One of Santa's helpers. It was a dream of mine ever since I was a chick...that is, until I joined the team and Santa put this, this CURSE on me.
Nobody on the outside realizes it, but Santa's helpers can't sleep--EVER! We have so much work to do for billions of kids, all year long. I'm just so tired..."
coffee bird
@@whitebeans7292
"Maybe this is why Santas of other worlds recruit elves. They never need to sleep."
I imagine a Delibird that's hopped up on caffeine, constantly chugging energy drinks
kinda silly that all three abilities (vital spirit, hustle, insomnia) together imply a strong anxious energy vibe.
Seeing the thumbnail of this video made me think Salamance is thinking “It’s not enough my attack should increase, others’s should drop”.
Like a true king 👏🏾😤👏🏾
Gyarados : Indeed
Krookodile: I've found my people
ayyyyyyy, i destroy my friends with krookodile lol
Scrafty: Hey mind if I join?
Durant would hate this tier. Can only attack every other turn. When it can attack, it doesn’t have full accuracy. And its full strength is only unlocked when it’s at less than 1/3 full HP.
My boy durant has got his own things going on. Like basketball, I've heard.
@@Wolfboy607Nah, the regular season is over and his team got knocked out of the playoffs so he's good
@@Qielif only he would go back to playing for the Thunder(bolt)s
skill swap.
It learns entrainment.
YES! DELIBIRD CAN BE IMMUNE TO HITTING HIS TARGET AND SLEEP AND SLEEP!
I thought he had an ability that stopped flinches. Editted the comment to fix it.
The fact that Delibird is getting recognition in the comments here makes me happy, but man is it funny that Delibird gains almost nothing from this
Holy shit, being immune to sleep AND sleep? That’s too op how the heck is that still allowed in the tier
Wait does vital spirit prevent flinch too?
Not even flinch. Sleep and sleep only
@@torchilicho Inner Focus does
The world is not ready for Unaware Simple Moody Bidoof.
oh, god
-That’s just no ability isn’t it? Unaware is both ways yeah?- apparently not?
@@Skullhawk13 No. Bidoof would keep and be able to use all of its own stat changes, but would ignore all of the opponents'.
@@Skullhawk13 Unaware only works on your opponent's stats, that's why dondozo uses curse on almost every set and why skelidurge uses torch song. They threaten to set up and sweep while ignoring their opponents stat boosts in the process.
WE DO NOT SPEAK OF IT
_> Simple+Moody+Unaware Bibarel_
*My timbers are shivering*
I’m pretty sure it was banned in previous generations and National Dex Pokébilities.
@@djarian_alpharadical
Then can you tell me how Trace works?
@@Toon.Hamstreak_658 I’m pretty sure it replaces the ability selected in the teambuilder. Kind of like how Neutralizing Gas won’t nullify the ability selected in the teambuilder. It could just dynamically replace Trace, but I’ve never thought about it when I used it.
I guess that skill swap works the same then
Skill Link + Technician sounds nasty.
yep Cinccino was a common sight around Pokebilities.
This combo slaps
It’s still possible just use loaded dice. What’s crazy is the addition of a choice band or scarf into the mix while maintaining the effect of the loaded dice.
@@jakerobins9059 loaded dice hits 4-5 not 5 so there is a difference that suprisingly matters more then you think
If only Cinccino was better. It's mediocre strength, 4 moveslot syndrome, single item syndrome, and extreme vulnerability to status make it just average. B- or C+ tier
I'd love to see how ridiculous Pokébilities would get in a Doubles format
Right there !
how would skill swap work?
@@why3994 Swaps all abilities.
@@GeorgeDCowley tinted lens speed boost volcarona
Sheer force sand force Lando-I partnered with sand stream sand force hippowdon
Calyrex-Rider be like, "I was Pokebilities before it was cool"
they hated Calyrex-Rider because he spoke the truth
"HE COPIED MY WHOLE F**KING FLOW! WORD FOR WORD BAR FOR BAR!"
Pokebilities existed as far back as gen 7, so nice try, but joke failed
@@typhlosion7872they were pokebilities before it was cool. Pokebilities was not very popular in gen 7.
@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 It actually picked up similar amounts of traction as it did both this gen and last gen.
Shout out to Delibird who can now use both Insonmia and Vital Spirit at the same time.
May as well lift the sleep clause!
I'd laugh if Charizard was able to use Blaze, Drought, Solar Power, and Tough Claws all at once 🤣
Gamefreak: *takes notes*
@@nousername191 probably the mega in the newest game coming out. While they are at it, its kind of unfair blastoise and venusaur get abilities? at least ones charizard cant use! Charizard deserves chlorophyll, overgrow, rain dish and torrent.
@@SecureBirch410 Why stop there? It should get Blaze, Torrent, Overgrow, Solar Power, Rain Dish, Chlorophyll, Drought, Tough Claws, Mega Launcher, Thick Fat, Static, Lightning Rod, Surge Surfer, Run Away, Adaptability, Anticipation, Volt Absorb, Quick Feet, Water Absorb, Hydration, Flash Fire, Guts, Synchronize, Magic Bounce, Inner Focus, Snow Cloak, Ice Body, Leaf Guard, Cute Charm and Pixelate. Gets the abilities of all Kanto starters, their evolutions and their forms.
@@SecureBirch410hello I'm from the future and yes super mega charizard gets all of theese abilities plus a signature move that acts like a priority spore and salt cure that affects grass types and ignores the opponent's abilities
Good thing that megas only get their mega ability and not their mega ability+base abilities. Same with alternate forms. For instance, Basculin doesn't get both Rock Head AND Reckless, you have to choose which form
I have nightmares of Magic Guard Unaware Clefable already
Please no, for the love of the flying spaghetti monster
It’s very unfun to play against and constraining to teambuilder in pokebilities. Not quite broken since a lot of teams have counters, but if you aren’t running one it’s just autolose on the spot with no counterplay
I recommend to use a banded mold breaker mon, meowsca, or shifu rapid. Flower trick / surging can be hard countered if it has the right Tera though.
It’s not that bad from my experience, but that may mostly be because I was the one using it against a team that countered it and the rest of my team well.
@@44hzama it almost always goes tera-steel to counter both of its type weaknesses. Some even run flame orb over life orb in order to prevent paralysis.
Imagine durant.
Loafs around one turn then misses the next attack because hustle so that you've now waisted 2 tunes for the price of one.
It has Entrainment to share the fun.
My crackpot idea is that if the same Pokémon has Plus AND Minus, they should both proc (i haven't tested if this works or not)
it would explode (real)
Try using funny guitar lizard.
@@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 oh shit, does Toxtricity get Punk Rock, Plus, Minus, AND Technician?
klinklang
The current showdown ladder's implementation is very very buggy. Many abilities don't work they way they should. So I highly doubt plus minus works, pretty sure they have a flag for "doubles only abilities" and disable that for single battles.
Calyrex horse forms: look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
Alolan Ninetales, with snow warning to set up snow, and snowcloak to hide in snow, and then aurora veil, the defence boost from aurora veil, the defence boost from snow, and evasion from snowcloak, Alolan Ninetales sounds like it could get some stuff done
Don’t forget the never missing blizzards. Absolutely chilling…
@@Book_Reader1 I actually fought a mono ice team during the time this meta game was up, and yeah that was annoying.
That's it ! 3 spikes layers + Stealth Rocks to you !
@@alexursu4403 Oh really, what do you say to my Great Tusk with rapid spin and recover (shut up, that’s a thing)
@@DUDEBRUHMICE Is that comparable to the Ice Punch Dusknoir ? The recover Tusk I mean.
How did we forget about Tropius having both Solar Power and Chlorophyll + funny Harvest under sun
mediocre stats but still very fun to use and viable
medoicre stats, solar power hurts it and its still not really fast enough with chlorophyll + It cant even set up the sun on its own. If you replaced solar power with drought itd probably good.
@@SecureBirch410 With chlorophyll a max speed tropius does outspeed an unboosted max speed dragapult. However, its mediocre special isnt doing it any favors.
But with a Berry, it will always heal cause Harvest always works with sunlight....
@@TheDeathmail If you're low enough.
The coolest find I ever found, is that TROPIUS can work.
Chlorophyll + Solar Power + Harvest, a Sun Boosted trinity. its stats still suck yes but now it basically gets a free +1 SpAtk and +2 Speed in sun, and you don't care about Solar Power dropping your HP constantly because you have Harvest in combination with a Sitrus Berry to keep you health up, guaranteed in the sun. You add a moveset of Growth, Air Slash, Solar Beam, and Tera Fire Tera Blast, and while sun is up, your opponent has to respect it, else get sweeped by TROPIUS.
Also if I may, with it being the OM of the month, take a look at Cross Evolution! it's one of the most crazy OMs around especially considering it's based in Ubers, but with something like Girafarig > Milotic running around with nearly 800 BST, it makes sense.
Finally, sand veil Garchomp
lol people are unironically running that everywhere on ladder
A friend of mine invited me to play this format and this was LITERALLY my first idea, I used sand veil Garchomp alongside sand veil Cacturne. The rest of the team was Tyranitar, Clefable, Gholdengo and Slaking (I'm a simple man, Stronk Monke + choice band Giga impact = Big Damage = Happy)
Neutralizing Gas is currently bugged (or works normally?) Basically for Galarian Weezing whenever you send it out there's a chance it activates Neutralizing Gas first and prevents all other abilities imemdiately... Or it first activates Misty Terrain AND THEN neutralizes abilities lmao. The current implementation on showdown is random, sometimes one happens other times the other does lol
Usually the ability of the fastest Pokemon on the field sets it up first.
I think since wheezing speed ties itself resulting in which activates as random.
If you select NGas in the ability slot, all its abilities will be active, but if you select Levitate or MSurge, only NGas will be active
It's a weird issue in the code that we haven't found out yet
Just use an ability shield on weezing. Its other abilities wont be negated.
@@echogaia1708that's the funniest use of ability shield ever you can't make this up
I misunderstood the title and thought it meant all abilities from all Pokemon, which would not only be a nightmare to untangle interactions but funny because everyone gets the op abilities but have slow start, truant, and defeatist.
And then it becomes pointless because of trace or neutralizing gas. :P
You forgot the one which lowers your accuracy.
Ngl, this format was hella fun!
Well... Except when Basculegion was not banned lol. People were legit running Ability Shield Clodsire purely to counter it lmao.
Sidenote: Bronzong is kind of a sleeper hit. Heatproof + Levitate takes away two of its main weaknesses, and its psychic type makes people think kingambit counters, only to have them to switch into an iron defence boosted 4x super effective body press.
I me a n it gives the ability shield a use tho. Personally i don't like that anything is banned from this tier, i mean especially with ability shield, and sometimes things r just strong oh wells
@sparkypikachu7776 There's a difference between strong and "Run Water Absorb Clodsire with Ability Shield or lose the game"
Even when he tries his hardest, Ursarang slips out once in a while
And don't get me started on Renuclus
This is actually how Mystery Dungeon works which can be really overpowered and at the same time kind of redundant like in the case of Riolu or Lucario
Psyduck was goated: being immune to explosions and weather is super relavent.
@@zilosis3794yoooo
This *was* the case until PSMD iirc.
And it's funny that Rivalry was mentioned because at least Gates onward that ability is actually really good and not total garbage like it is in Explorers (and ig Adventure Squad) because rather than being gender-based it's only based on typing which makes it so much better.
@@Kingdeather oh yeah that was the entire point of the Hawlucha tokens, I kinda forgot about that. I don't remember if that started in Gates or not
How do you reconcile “gets faster when it flinches” and “never flinches”?
0:06 remember, gen 9 box legends get this same synergy in a single ability
Could be fun to have an hold item activating all abilities for a pokemon. Would be a worthy sacrifice.
i don't think i realized that 85 hp, 70 Def, 75 sDef was considered "incredibly frail" with regard to porygon z
never played competitively, but find it interesting anyways
for a pokemon with a better defensive type its ok enough with good ev investment, but for a normal type wallbreaker its pretty bad
So power creep has gotten so insane in current generations, even 100 defenses / 90 HP pokemon aren't really considered "bulky". Good example is Galarian Slowbro.
Also, in the past even 70 def pokemon with full defensive investment can still survive hits and be considered good checks (if they have recovery). A good example is gen 4 breloom which had amazing recovery.
@@KaijuGal-rb9ek Exactly yeah. Type coverages matter a lot more. Hence Klefki being a great defensive pokemon inspite of having horrible stats.
if it were lets say fairy or steel type it could be really strong. But having no resistances, due to being normal, with those average stats means its frail
Lucario has 70/70/70 defenses.
ah, I see my Heatran being frozen by Ice Beam made it into the video
I find it funny that your opponent was named Freezai too
When I was a kid I thought hidden abilities worked like this lol
Sand force+sheer force landorus incarnate
(Shudder)
Alolan Ninetales could be interesting. Snow cloak and snow warning with aurora veil, blizzard, nasty plot, and draining kiss or moonblast could be terrifying.
Minccino gets skill link+ technician+ stab tail slap. Pretty good coverage too, in triple axel, bullet seed, and rock blast. Also gets a pretty solid move pool apart from that too.
Kleavor gets sharpness+ sheer force +stab on stone edge. Stone edge being a hundred base power, coming off of a 135 attack stat.
Pelipper gets drizzle+ rain dish, and A. Ninetails gets snow cloak+ snow warning.
That's a 187.5 bp plus stab
Thank you so much for working with me to make this video. It was an absolute pleasure assisting with this and I'm glad that the meta will be getting more attention after this!
Garganacl is also very good, he cannot be OHKO, he cannot be statued, and his stats will not get lowered
...Mold Breaker, anyone? In all seriousness, it's a stronger Gholdengo
Yeah this is the reason I need that Tink to be a Ton.
@@ArgiemithiusAbility Shield negates
@@-libertyprimev1-902 does it? I thought the Ability Shield negates any changes to the wielder's ability from moves or other abilities, like Worry Seed, Skill Swap, or Neutralizing Gas; whereas Mold Breaker ignores the effect of abilities allowing for, let's say, a fire type move hitting and dealing damage to a Flash Fire mon; or for any non super effective move hitting Shedinja. You getting my point? Ability Shield would not help
@@Argiemithius no it does counter Mold Breaker, as per your example Flash Fire Heatran holding an Ability Shield cannot be hit by Mold Breaker FlameMask-Ogrepon's Ivy Cudgel.
It was always nice that in mystery dungeon, every pokemon could have 2 abilities.
Psyduck having water type to walk on water, plus being immune to weather effects and explosiobs made it incredible in rescue team.
The time this is bad though was Riolu being immune to cringe/flinch and getting a boost from being flinched/cringing.
So basically everyone is Calyrex
If you were to cover Shared Power, that would be phenomenal, in shared power your Pokémon's abilities are shared with the rest of your team, allowing you to have six abilities, it's a similar concept to pokebilites but the meta itself is VERY different, with plenty of extremely powerful pokemon you wouldn't expect to be good, like iron crown, pinchurchin and indeedee. I tried to make a video on it myself, but with my lack of experience and equipment I don't think I did the tier justice
Oh dear god. I remember when contrary used to be legal in that OM. Serp victini cores were everywhere
How does Protosynthesis work there? Could you have 1 Driver then 5 Paradox Pokemon giving it Super-Omni Boost?
@@-libertyprimev1-902 You cant have multiple of the same ability, and protosynthesis is restricted
Haha, this is pretty cool idea.
I thought of Gyrados as soon as I saw the video title, and then Freezai mentioned it within the first minute.
Very interesting way for some older mons to catch up to modern power creep.
I thought of Scrafty as like a poor man's Gyarados. You are so scared of fairies but fighting is a good offensive type, dark is immune to prankster, and you also get shed skin so you don't have to worry as much about status. Also I really like Scrafty
What about Bibarel? Simple, Unaware AND Moody. (Simple AND Moody).
So every turn you get +4 in one stat and -2 in another. It could get some insane high-rolls, but also having the potential for a boost on the wrong attack stat and cutting one of your defenses or speed in half turn 1 means it’s even more chaotically random than normal moody. 🤔
Yeah you ignore their +6ATK. But they also ignore your +6ATK because of Unaware.
That's an o7
@@chrayez that should be a real ability called "bipolar", it would just be funny and have it be on like cosmog or something like that for extra memes
Unaware only ignores the opponent's stat changes, so Bibarel's stats would still matter
@@andyhuynh2625 unaware doesnt ignore your own stats
I expected this to be a “what if pokemon had EVERY ability” video and now i need that
6:33, it's important to note that Supreme Overlord doesn't boost the attack stat. Its boosts the move itself, same way that burn halves the damage from moves not the attack stat itself.
I was dreaming of a metagame like this for months now, i am so happy someone decided to create it, and thank you for covering it
Your breakdowns of all things pokemon - individual matches (singles doubles or otherwise), metagames, mechanics, is just some of the best ive heard
Love all your content
as an om player it’s so cool to see ppl with more motion cover our little land
That concept is just like Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky.
Yeah I immediately thought that too. The best thing from that game is riolu/lucario having steadfast and inner focus which cancel each other out completely lol. There’s also the bronzor line that have no 2x weakness in that game too.
@@jadetboi i was about to say ghost and dark but remembered gen 5- steel resists those
I like how every time that something fundamental in Pokemon is changed in any gimmick idea, makes porygon-Z or Excadrill really good or really bad
I wanna see one where they can use any move they can learn
the national dex tier is just that id highly recommend it it’s so fun
@@Devshujin I think they meant they had access to their entire movepool at once
Mew: 🗿
what
@@DevshujinThat is not what they mean. 🤦
god ice beam blissey was so silly here
Imagine Kecleon in this format. Bro would be changing types every second.
2:58 don't forget x1.3 recoiless life orb if you manage to get tspikes on your own field...
Lanturn would be a funny pivot in this ruleset. It has both Volt Absorb and Water Absorb, so it'll heal for 25% of its health if you switch into a Water or Electric type move.
Zebstrika would also make a decent pivot, as it has Lightning Rod + Motor Drive + Sap Sipper.
I know Articuno has been rather obnoxious somewhat lately due to a Snow Cloak evasion set with the reworked "Hail", so I imagine it'd be even more obnoxious with Pressure.
I see Dugtrio potentially being scary on a sandstorm team. It has Sand Veil and Sand Force to boost evasion and damage, along with Arena Trap.
Golurk would throw out some nasty Dynamic Punches, as it has Iron Fist and No Guard. Unfortunately it also has Klutz and no real way to use it (outside of Fling I guess?).
I don't quite know if it would work, but Klinklang does have access to both Plus AND Minus. It would be funny if it applied both of those boosts to itself, simply doubling its Special Attack for essentially free.
Wait a sec… tera water zebstrika can’t be hit supereffectively unless there’s mold breaker involved.
I love seeing videos exploring niche formats like this. Keep it up!
Pokébilities Doubles would probably make Hisuian Arcanine the best Intimidator since it threatens Incin with recoilless Head Smash and a Flare Blitz swap with Flash Fire, which it can then throw into Incin's allies with no recoil.
I'm imagining a Pokemon game where the mons unlock abilities as they level up.
This was a really cool video. Hope Freezai makes more like it
This is (or at least was) how Pokemon Mystery Dungeon works in terms of abilities, and it was great.
I love that Great Tusk is so good that it doesn’t need the boost of this format to be good in this
I'm shocked Kingambit isn't utterly broken with two of the best offensive abilities in the game on it at once. Intimidate must not be common in this meta
This was cool to learn about. Its interesting peeking into the leas known game types.
The Porygon line is broken in like half the extra game modes on showdown
Cinccino gets Technician + Skill Link (and Cute Charm) while having held item freedom.
I appreciate this video! I've heard about Pokebilities more than once and it always seemed interesting but not interesting enough for me to look into. This video is exactly for what I was hoping for!
As an avid PMU player, what happens is that Azumarill becomes amazing.
Grass immunity along with further Fire and Ice resistances while still having Huge Power. You better have an electric or poison type around.
There's already a poke rom with that feature of having 4 abilities at once
I really enjoy these format analysis videos, they’re super entertaining
Sand Rush Sand Force Mold Breaker Excadrill sounds terrifying
This reminds me of Pokébilities AAA, a mashup meta where you can use all the normal abilities and an extra one. I made a Hustle Machamp who combined No Guard, Guts, and Hustle to make an insane Dynamic Punch that was effectively 225 Base power, couldn't Miss, and always confused the target. It also ran Stone Edge, which couldn't miss either, and Knock off for coverage, with a final Facade for Fairy types.
There was also the popular Talonflame, who could use Magic Guard to avoid using boots, take no damage from the Life Orb, and not lose Gale Wings when using Brave Bird. It was also immune to poisoning and all the other stuff magic guard does. Give it Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, and Roost, and you have a sweeper with a base 120 priority move.
Y'all are sleeping on Guts + No Guard + Flame Orb + Dynamic Punch Machamp.
When I first learned about secondary abilities, I thought they worked like this, where a pokemon would always have its base ability and then occasionally would have it's secondary ability on top of that
Imagining this in Gen 6 Doubles. Mega Evos would be kept more in check because they can only have one ability. Ttar Excadrill would be in a much higher tier. Porygon2 would be much more offensive and even exceed Cresselia in usage.
Love the Pokémon conquest music in the middle of the vid lmao
No need to imagine the Pokemon Hack Elite Redux already gives the pokemon 4 abilities the main ability and 3 passives. but you have to choose between three abilities for the main. It also added a bunch of other abilities, an example is that it combined all of the sun abilities into one ability so it's like having a pokemon with 8 abilities.
We've had this in mystery dungeon. Lucario had steadfast and inner focus which made steadfast impossible to activate
PokeRogue actually does this! It gives all Pokemon an extra ability they don't get in the main series that you can unlock. The first one I unlocked was Moxie on Flamgio, and it CLEANS
A pokemon that wasn’t mentioned is Cinccino. Even tho cute charm is ass, Skill Link and Technician would tear a hole on a lot of teams considering it learns bullet seed, rock blast, tail slap, and triple axle. Tidy up is also there for a dragon dance and item removal. In terms of an item, you have the option of choice items and life orb
Great video! Would love to see more in this style
This is exactly the sort of content I want to see on this channel
Protean Torrent Ash-Greninja at 20%HP in Gen 7: "This Z-Move boosted Hydro Pumps about to be the ultimate nuke Lil bro."
fox capture plan as background music? that's why you're my goat, freezai
I wanna make a case for Flygon.
Because it would've been stupid for a winged creature with the word FLY in its name to not be airborne, Trapinch loses all 3 of its abilities for Levitate upon evolution, but that never really sat right with me so I'd like to propose some tweaks for Flygon's case: Levitate, Sand Stream and Compound Eyes (these are picks based on its physical characteristics over meta)
Zangoose about to go off
This is sick, might get into the meta :3
Dragalge with both Poison Touch and Poison Point. No matter what, someone is getting poisoned
In the pokemon mystery dungeon series, every pokemon has their primary and secundary ability at the sale time
*someone tries to make it flinch with a dark type move*
Lucario: not only did that not work, but you just boosted me twice
8:00 Honestly, singles is such a foreign world to me already, this format just makes it worse. Ah yes, top meta threats like Great Tusk and *Clodsire*.
It's not that difficult to believe
Clodsire is already a great special wall with great ability options in Unaware, Water Absorb and Poison Point
This meta allows you to use all those abilities at once, so naturally it's going to be very good.
Yooo OMF2097 soundtrack!! wasnt expecting the nostalgia trip
I got so excited when I saw the thumbnail thinking you did a pokebilities session
I was zoning out and saw the title, and thought there was only going to be pokemon that had ALL the abilities and it was going to be some math stuff about who is the most powerful pokemon then
We don't need to wonder much - that's just Mystery Dungeon mechanics.
There was a meta called Shared Power in Gen 8 where each Pokémon's ability affects the whole team, but it didn't work properly.
I thought of this agessss ago, and one of the most fun Pokemon I came across when diving into the idea was Heliolisk, it'd make a really interesting 'mon to go into a weather team. Sand Veil to boost evasion in sandstorms, Dry Skin to heal in the rain, and Dry Skin and Solar Powered boosts special attack in the sun but also damages it over time
Okay but to be fair, if Hidden Abilities are accessible it should be made so that Pokemon can only have 2 abilities and the Hidden Ability replaces one of them
Theres actually an Emerald hack with this feature called Elite Redux. The hack also adds abilities based on Pokedex entries, like most Pokemons that stated they prey on other Pokemons gets an ability that recover their HP upon K.O.
I think this is exactly how abilities work in the Mystery Dungeon games (at least in Sky and Darkness, I'm not sure if it carried over to the others) so Luxray can have both Rivalry and Intimidate.
Mainline is really sleeping on all the potential Mystery Dungeon set up
They should introduce the move "Ability Switch." It has 1 PP and allows the pokémon to switch abilities mid match but excludes hidden abilities.
Yanmega is cracked 🥶
love how you decided on cyrus for your character of choice
As somebody who already loves all of the big round idiots discussed in this video (Especially Conk) I am very pleased.