POLISH SNIPER W/PIG'S LIVER MRE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I had a Polish Sniper MRE #3 given to me by my son and his wife. Among other things, it has Pork Pate' (Liver) and Beef Shoulder in Tomato Sauce. Really quite tasty. I hope you enjoy it with me.
These two sweets that you had besides coffee are actually vitamin candies, and the armor plate biscuits are literally named “Special biscuits”, multi use you know, eating, tank plating, beating your enemy to death, the usual thing you know 😂
😅🤣😅🤣 You're killing me, Patryk! TFW!
Everyone says there armour or tank tracks lol
damn, had a mental flip till I saw the name.
Their fuel for the fire ...😂😂
Awesome videos. Left-handed recognizes left-handed.
Thank you for your service
Hey, Mr. Me Ancient! Hope the Florida weather is treating you well.
It's been amazing. TFW!
1. Well the name Strzelecka does not mean "Sniper's" but more like "Rifleman's". Strzelec - Rifleman is a paramilitary organisation in Poland that works together with Polis Army, to train civilians in using weapons, tactics, survival and first aid. So this is ration designed for them.
2. SU-1 crackers are know in the Polish Army as Panzerwafle (armored waffles) and and it's a play on german word Panzerwaffe - Armored warfare :)
3. The toothbrush is already cover with dental fluid so You can use minimal amount of water to clean Your teeth
4. The main contains besides tomato and carrots also onion, parsley and celery. But they are very fine mashed and mixed with the tomatoes, so not visible on first glance
Thank you so much for the further explanation! That makes sense about the tomato sauce having the puree'd veggies to give a more complete vegetable content. Another subscriber let me know that the fruit candy actually has vitamins similar to fruit so it really was a well rounded meal. I hope to review another of these Polish meals soon. I really like them! TFW!
what u ate there is "Leberwurst" ( It translates into "Liver Sausage" and is partly meat, partly liver that has been grinded up very finely and mixed with some spices, sugar, salt etc. ) . Thats how we call it in Germany, it´s quiet common for breakfast or more likely to be eaten in the evening on bread with some mustard if you like. You should try it out, its a good combination.
Phil, sound good. I'll have to look for a German MRE with the Leberwurst included. TFW!
Super 😃
Regards from Poland.
Pozdrowienia z USA & TFW!
@@MeAncient 👍🏼
I think U have all hands up for this package from Polish fans 🙂 All best from Polish fan from Australia love U all🙂 and God bless 😉
Kamil, Thank you for that! I enjoy making the videos and sharing my experiences. TFW!
How awesome! Absolutely love watching anything with you and your sons. You guys are true genuine souls and the fact you guys pray just makes me smile more. God bless you guys keep it up and stay close. Lord knows these days we have to stick together.
We love inviting everyone in on our adventures. I think I can speak for my sons when I say that. TFW, Eric!
Happy to see a veteran enjoying his retirement. Bless you Mr.
Not quite retired, my friend. Still doing some part time real estate stuff and loving that, for sure. TFW!
@@MeAncient glad to hear it, get busy living or get busy dying. Hope I'll end up at least partially like you.
Polish reservist waiting for a call for help from fatherland saluts you
Thank you team. Never put beans in a sniper meal. The gas will give away your position every time. HA HA HA.
Good point.
Bon appetit from Poland :) The brush has a paste in it, soak it in water and it's ready.
Good to know! Tks for the info and TFW, Jacek!
@@MeAncient Semper FI!
My father served as a junior officer aboard a frigate in the Royal Canadian Navy and I got to visit his ship one summer. The berths were just about as small as the ones you described. Fortunately, my father isn't as tall as you ;)
That pork pate looks tasty, I wish I had stuff like that on hand.
Great video as always!
It was rough for the 2 months we were assigned to the ship. I learned to live with it. TFW, Steve
Liver pate is a common breakfast spread in central Europe. Liver is just one ingredient of it. Ofc we use it on a slice of bread, not crackers and we use butter too to made a bit more mild the taste of it. There are lots of different recipe so some are more yummy, some less. A good sourdough slice, butter, liver pate, slices of hard or semi hard boiled eggs on it, pepper (paprika), tomatoes, cucumber, radish, spring onion the side, depends on the season.
Semper Fi brother. I was a sailor, serving from '76 to'80, stationed at NAS Miramar in San Diego. I was fortunate to serve aboard the carriers USS Forestal and USS Constellation. Our berthing compartment was obviously much moe luxurious than your berthing area. The beauty of serving aboard a carrier is that the chow was great and a ship that large has far less noticeable movement than those smaller vessels. Love your videos. I especially enjoy watching you share your faith. God bless brother.
I LOVED Navy chow. Are you kidding me! Mid Rats! I gained weight on ship for sure. TFW
I'm glad you somewhat like the liver paté. It's a comfort food in Scandinavia, Poland and Russia, where spices and ingredients differ from country to country. It's usually eaten with rye bread here in Denmark, and i highly recommend you try a danish MRE at some point 👍
Love the videos 🙏
I would love to try a Danish MRE one day. I'll have to watch for one. TFW!
Leverpastej
@@randyrenne7759 yeeess
Hey guys! So glad to see another MRE video posted. That MRE looked very appetizing to me. The main course looked really substantial, no "low calorie" things in that MRE! One question that I hoped to hear you answer was, why is it called a snipers MRE?? I thought that it might be something that required no heating, thus possibly giving away the snipers position, from the open flame!!?? Don't know?? Great video guys, keep 'em coming!! God bless, stay safe. 😃
This is a commercial ration (although made from the same components used in the military rations) and the name is just a marketing idea. Another type is called wojskowa=military.
I think Delicious below has it right in his assessment. TFW, Darryl
Watching this before a work interview instead of writing down things I can ask/say lol. Awesome video 👍🏽
Uh Ohh! Good luck...maybe tell them about Me Ancient video channel?
Thank you for your service! I have much respect for all of those who have served our country.
Michael, I appreciate that. And, I appreciate that you watch my videos.
He wasn't really, he's a faker.
I served two tours of Afghanistan in the 2nd battalion Mercian regiment in the British army and we would regularly engage and talk with the USMC guys on camp and even go on duel patrols with each other and they were great guys. We’d swap our ration packs so at least we’d have something different to eat. The USMC guys really loved the self heating chicken curry and rice bags, they were a big hit with the Marines. Met some good guys and still have some great friends over in America most of which have left the Marine corps now. I was invited over to a old friends house in 2018 just before the pandemic hit and had two brilliant weeks in Texas. He took me night time Hog shooting, we got two kills, straight to the butcher who worked his magic and we had fresh Hog meat on his BBQ party the following day, the meat was delicious. Apparently in Texas Alone they have between 2/3 million wild hogs, and as their a introduced species they cause real problems for the farmers, so their happy for us to go on their land and shoot a few. They snatch and eat the Lambs as well, right in front of the mother. They don’t even kill,them, they just start to eat them whilst their still alive. The male we shot was a big Russian Hog 300lbs plus, thing was huge.
@@MeAncient what Military base yall at
@@boobiedefloop6097 bruh.
Camera man was thinking "yeah, more cat food" when you were savoiring the liver smell.
When they had me locked up during covid in officer's school i thrived on SU-1 biscuits bought whole pack of 100+. Theyre delicious and due to being more filling than average bread managed even to lose some weight since i just stopped eating all bread products they provided us to meals.
Na szczoteczce do zębów już jest pasta ,wystarczy włożyć do ust i pocierać .Pozdro z Polski.
I liked the bullet comparison to a AA battery, here in Australia i have little idea about bullet size. But i know how big a AA battery is
Happy to help with the illustration. TFW!
I served on a Navy Frigate in the early 1980s, as a USN Electronic Tech. Our berthing compartments had aluminum racks 3 deep. I always ended up in a top rack. In my last berthing compartment, the stack of racks would move around as the ship rolled in rough seas. Much worse on a small 430 foot ship. I would tie my sheet up over the 8 inch waterpipe over my head, to limit movement. And, I am 6'4". 😄
I have always loved braunschweiger. Lately, I order some pork liver pate from Amazon that tastes just like the braunschweiger. Good stuff!
Arpol makes one of the best world rations in the world IMO. The SRG-5 is my fav ration in the world.the vegetarian Polish have so much flavor. Highly recommend 👌 Enjoyed your video, as always.
Thanks for the info! I'll have to look for it. TFW!
I am not sure for poland and some other slavic countries but here in Crotia we call that pate "Pašteta" we usually spread it on bread and have it for breakfast, also some people put some "Slanina" smoked bacon not cooked and some onions I personally like it,you should try it, its delicious and amazing way to start the day
Adam, sounds good. I've got more MREs with pate in them that I'll be trying new stuff.....TFW!
We call it Pasztet. Sz is pronounced as your s with small V above it.
Greetings from Poland :)
cześć from USA! TFW!
As far as I know this toothbrush is already soaked in the toothpaste. About the pate to be honest it's a very popular type of food in Poland, many people love that, we have different brands and different tastes (like for example pate with tomatoes and so on). But I rather don't like it. Very nice video :)
Yes, I understand that now. I had never seen a toothbrush preloaded with the toothpaste. It is a great idea! TFW!
The Navy designed Troop berthing to be just good enough to give a man a place to (kind of) stretch out and crash....but uncomfortable enought to motivate Marines to go over the side, hit the beach and sleep a bit more comfortable....considering what little if any sleep Marines get while Marine-ing.
That makes sense..... You must have been a squid? TFW
@@MeAncient Yes, but not any old 'squid' I was a 'Hole-Snipe'....a member of the Black Gang, I was the Boilers Div. LPO on the USS New Orleans LPH-11.
Could someone try to find and send him a Norwegian MRE ?
That would be cool.....I'll have to look for one. TFW, Brajan!
You like Rye bread. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you can't ignore a Reuben sandwich on a menu.
I have just started watching, im loving the content and your stories. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Sabrina, it is my pleasure. I'm having fun, for sure. TFW!
I just found your channel and I'm binge watching.
As a sailor who carried marines, (USS DENVER LPD-9) there's an unwritten promise. From the day you embark on our ship until the moment you disembark our ship, your safety is our responsibility. It is not a responsibility we accept lightly. We have the watch, and nothing will harm you on our watch.
The sailors going into the sea with you live very similarly.
Polish MRE’s are delicious!
You better know it! TFW
A+ video. Excellent filming location, the KUBO you are sitting under was certainly a perfect spot to try out yet another positive MRE experience. I believe our young troops would go for the meatballs over a bed of rice. Two of the brood like liver spread so the pate' might be another winner.
Jack, it really was a winner, although, as I said, I could have used some freeze dried fruit or something. I did have someone comment that the candies are full of vitamins and take the place of fruit. If so, then that was a truly excellent meal because the candies were very tasty. TFW!
Toothbrush comes with toothpaste on it, it's just dry. You brush your teeth and have a little water to wash your mouth after. As for pate - it's a standard one, it should be creamy and easy to spread on a bread or a cracker. It can be done from chicken, goose or pig's liver and bits. I'm curious: have you never eaten a pate? The one you tried is nothing to write home about, but not the worse one either. It's standard in Poland to have savoury or sweet option what you can put on a bread. Here, as we're dealing with sniper's pack, it's lightweight, so there's no jam or honey, that usually are given as a sweet option. Sweets are standing for your vit C supply and are given as a pick me up, if you need some sugar kick. The same with coffee drop - gives you a caffeine kick for some time. This is high energy pack for someone who can spend a long time solo and far away from others, so it's geared toward high calories count in minimal packaging. If you like sweets, look for day MRE with bigos or with sausage & cabbage - these have a lot of accesories added and come with rye wafers - very lightweight and not tough at all :)
Mo Bo, thanks for the info....very helpful as I go forward with the next MREs from all over the world. TFW!
We used to call them in the navy coffin lockers Space that was our bunks
SEMPER FI my brother great content and stories OOH RAH
Ooh Rah back atcha, Spoon! Semper Fi!
One is a sniper from Russian rounds and one is an assault rifle with American rounds the rounds are the only comparable thing the rifles are different uses
That's exactly correct, James. The M-16 A-1 is quite a bit older, too. TFW
I am writing from a very restless Poland full of refugees and soldiers from all over the world. Yesterday you could meet your "AirBorn" in Krakow. They take advantage of the weather and visit the city. Our Polish kitchen is full of meat, so in this ration it's just the same you have almost the same meat. There is always groats in eastern kitchens, and the same will be true in their MRE. A cracker is actually SUCHAR, if you want it to be soft, you soak it in tea. You can also put it in your pocket and eat it even in a month.
TFW and tks for the comments, Piotr. Take care of yourself.
Love these! I've been making my own freeze dried meals MRE style to put away for emergencies. Thank you for sharing!
That's a great idea, Kristen. TFW
You should video some of these, I would love to watch them.
@@EatsTreatsMREs I'd be happy to send you some if you'd like! I'm not a very "video" person 😅😄
@@KristenHH That would be brilliant but honestly you don't have to. I am in the UK and I know postage isn't great. I wasn't very much a video person to start with but you may surprise yourself.
I'm very interested in home made MRE's as well. But I live across the pond just like EatsTreats&MREs. Could you give a description of them?
Oh, and I would suggest looking at CityPrepping for idea's on homemade MRE's, and freeze dried meals.
Man I Like To Fish!
Liver pate is one of my favorites. If you’re exerting yourself all day, it really provides a generous amount of calories.
Those crackers are HARDtack.
After all that candy, a toothbrush is a necessity.
I found out from other comments that the toothbrush is already infused with some kind of toothpaste. All I had to do was get the bristles wet. Who'd a thought? TFW
Hello from Indiana 👍 like the gum your videos never disappoint.
Never......TFW, Ryan
Braunschweiger is pork liver pate, I love the stuff but I purposely don't tell people what it is without them tasting it first because everyone refuses to try it otherwise.
That's the way to do it. TFW!
After you eat the stew cook the panzer crackers in the empty can with water and the pate to save your teeth.
Soak the crackers.....I hear ya' ! TFW, David!
Leberwurst (liver wurst). Seems like all the Slavic MRE's have some form of liver pate. Good video, enjoyed it. I just ordered me one of the MRE's that you last reviewed. Can't wait! LOL.
I'm opening a Russian MRE next and I think it has more liver pate' . I"m hoping. That stuff is good, Samuel. TFW!
Hello, hope you are having a wonderful day
Indeed I am. Hoping to go do a little lobster hunting later today. We'll see........TFW!
Now you have enough crackers to build a bunker
Indeed!
Wow, I knew that the forces on ships were packed in, I had no idea HOW packed in you guys were!
I'm not sure I would have been able to be so pragmatic.
Huge respect for all enlisted men who tolerate environments like those to serve their country.
This ration looked very hearty and filling, but seemed lacking on vitamins.
Great review again :)
TFW!
Maybe that toothbrush was one that already has toothpaste. You have to add water to the brush and start brushing.
That's exactly right. It's what a few Polish viewers let me know. TFW!
Telling enemy a sniper is around. LOL
Better dispose of that MRE packaging discreetly! TFW
That pork liver is like potted meat that we have here in the U.S which is good stuff. I always enjoyed your videos Sir God bless and have a wonderful week
Thank you, Adam. TFW!
Nah, potted meat is quite different in taste. I eat both often, and much prefer the pork liver pate.
I bet texture wise its close.
But potted meat isn't any good any more.
They took the tripe out of it.
The amount of braunschweiger we had as kids horrifies me as an adult. :D As a recommendation you can always pop a couple pieces of chocolate in your coffee as well and make a "mocha". I do this occasionally while camping when we have left over s'mores chocolate.
Good idea. I love the ideas y'all leave in the comments. It's helped me (when I can remember them.). TFW!
@@MeAncient my pleasure! Half the fun of camping is coming up with fun ideas and sharing them!
That's a high quality chocolate bar, it looked really good. You could always put a square or two of chocolate into the coffee.
Yeah, but I don't like chocolate in my coffee. TFW!
Just discovered this channel through Ace, great content 💪
Welcome aboard! TFW
You're supposed to moisten those crackers by dampening a towel and wrapping the biscuits in the towel until they're soft.
Gross!😝 TFW!
I love these videos where the food is still good a lot better. More please! And adding your catch or other adventure foods to the video is a plus to the normal meal. Subscribed to your whole family and love the videos! Keep em coming!
Just wait and see what I have coming. Should be fun for everyone. Stay tuned, please and TFW!
As usual, an excellent review and a story. I love how your channel is progressing!
We'll keep at it. I am not putting out as many as I would like but I have to have help at this point in the filming and Ace is so busy in Florida that it makes it difficult sometimes for our schedules to come together. I have my channel for fun. His is how he makes his living so his channel takes priority. TFW!
@@MeAncient Totally understand.
I've never eaten pate, always see it at Publix and thought it must taste foul. But after seeing a couple of your videos, I think I'll give it a try.
You should try a vietnamese bahn mi sandwitch made with pate!
Most likely american pate will taste foul.
Amazing vid me ancient thanks so much
I appreciate that, Nathan. TFW!
the toothbrush hair are covered with dry toothpaste, just dip it in some water and it's ready to go
I'm hearing that now....TFW!
Loved sitting here on my 6x2 bed watching you try liver pate on floor tiles. The signs posted on your gazebo were a great add on keep these coming 😃😊
We are actually on a little get away in Florida, staying in a VRBO home. Filming videos for Ace Video. Caught a few lobster today. TFW!
@@MeAncient well its beautiful and I'm glad you're enjoying some good times with family. Keep making these reviews between you and steve1989 I'm getting not only a glimpse of what militaries eat but an entertaining pov.
The liver paste sort of reminds me of potted meat. As a kid if I saw potted meat, Vienna sausages and saltines my dad was taking me fishing
Isn't it funny what can make you remember something from your past? TFW
Totally different taste. I commonly eat both. Pork liver pate is far better.
You can use the crackers as a personal flotation device.
I'm afraid they might sink. I'll have to test that theory out.
If you want another review I have Polish ration "Hungarian stew" to be sent to you free of charge.
I would love that. Where would you send it from? We've had some difficulty getting MREs from Europe without having customs tear them open and steal the main dish (they assure me it was for my safety).
Package would be sent from Poland. I have never before shipped such thing from EU to USA and didn't know about what you say.... I checked it and its true. Due to FAA regulations items such as mre heaters are forbiden from shipment by plane. I'll think about solution and contact you again when I'll find one. As a last resort I could remove heater from package but i would prefer to avoid it.
Lol there always something left in his cup 😂
You need to crush those crackers with your helmet before consumption😂🤣
Why do you want to put. a helmet to such a test as that??!!
Needed to add the candy to the hot drinks and let them devolve and it is used for a sweetener.
Now there's an idea! TFW
Why you always open cans or packets before heating? We always heated military rations closed it is easier and sometimes quicker.
Negro como a noite, quente como o inferno, e amargo como a vida, "black as night, hot as hell, and bitter as life", that is how I was raised to drink coffee (German-Portuguese family).
Ive been in polish army 19 years ago and that Pancer Crackers was already there :D army cans with meat was to kill for, always :D
Braunschweiger is pork liver and bacon with lard and seasonings ground into a paste. LIverwurst is just pork liver and lard with seasonings..
These are wild. My boyfriend was in the Air Force. He retired after putting in his 20 years. He was a mechanic. After retiring he worked at an airport as a mechanic at JFK for JetBlue. He’s still there. One of his “buddies” had MREs. I wanted to try one. He brought home 2 of them. They were okay. For the life of us we can’t remember what they were. LoL. But I could live on them. But then again I love all food. No matter what. I want to thank for your service. No matter what your job or what you do it’s not home, and it could be a scary time for you young kids! God bless you for wanting to protect people back home risking your life. Again thank you for your years of protecting me and everyone else.
I didn’t know Air Force get MRE’s since they are always on a base and eat actual cooked meals lol
It's 2 years by now so im not sure if anyone cares, but the Toothbrush at 25:10 has toothpaste on the brush already.
You only need 2 pour some water on it & ur good 2 go.
Hello! I don’t know if anyone has told you yet but letting the crackers soak up your saliva for a bit helps soften them up. Might help your 60 year old teeth
great video. btw if you've eaten hot dogs you've had pork liver. and thank you for including your full prayer blessing, should never be edited out.
Thank you, Nancy. That must be why I like hot dogs, huh? TFW
Crush the cracker and sprinkle it over the meatballs and tomato sauce like breadcrumbs? That's the only thing I can thing of to make the cracker easier to eat
Came here for the MRE reviews, stayed for storytime with Me Ancient.
Another great video. How do soldiers get their MREs delivered? Do they carry it on them, is there a stockist who delivers them to the soldiers? 🤘🎖
The toothbrush has already paste on it :D Thank You for your service, hugs from Warsaw❤
What sniper would have an MRE though? Definitely a civilian MRE lol
Hey ace that's a different meal .thoer called panzer crackers common slag for them lol tank threads that's a good one .6.5 ? Geeez on a Navy rack no sleep that trip .good to see ya say hi to ASA
No good sleep, for sure. Especially when we hit the 30 - 40 foot swells. I didn't tell the story, but one night during a storm some dishes in the galley that was located directly above our berthing area came loose from their moorings and broke and slid back and forth across the floor all night long. It was quite an ongoing racket. I'm sure someone got into trouble for failing to secure the dish racks after mid rats. TFW, Tom!
When is “Cleanse the old palate” shirt coming out? I’ll order one for sure. As always Great video!
How about we get to 250,000 subscribers so it's worth it for the shirt company to print off a few? TFW!
Love when you upload Me encient. Love the content
I mean Ancient 😂
I really enjoy the whole process, Lisa. TFW!
My whole life I always hated dark chocolate since I live here in USA and our dark chocolate is not good, but when I bought the Lithuanian mre, I am a huge fan of dark chocolate. Sometimes I wonder if our food in USA was better quality, we would actually like the things we normally hate.
I think they use to much sugar in the US myself. I do like a nice piece of dark chocolate and the Lithuanian is some of the best!
That's a good point. I sure did like that dark chocolate more than any other I've ever tried. TFW
You do have good MRE Type 2 coffee. The spray-dried type.
4:21 Close cover before striking!!!! It's printed on the match sleeve for a reason!
You should make your tests/reviews when you are really hungry.
Liver pate = liver wurst
If you snap thos fuel cells in half and put match in between two halves it lights a lot easier and faster ...
Your supposed to dip the biscuits in your coffee or tea and also put the chocolate in your coffee just fir further refrence
Cool story as usual..I have to say I'm intrigued by Eastern European mre lol
I'm going to be doing a few more. I have them, just need the time to film and edit them. TFW, Eltenda!
central! central European 😜
@@Gielon oh ok 😆
Does the MRE come with the famous Polish solar powered flash light?
Those style stoves are great, I have the esbit ones for camping, nice for a quick heat up without the fuss of a fire on the trail
Those stoves and tabs are the bomb! TFW, Patrick!
Those look more like hardtack. Should mack lobscouse with them!
Did you keep that can loop deal? I woulda, it’s cool 😀
why do you pray? your prayers are an abomination to God until you repent of your mason oath , repent of your sin , turn to God , be baptized in his name , filled with his spirit and obey everything his king james bible teaches you ... otherwise ...as i said ...why do you bother with false prayers? “He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.” ... you made an oath which God forbids .. " If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:" “Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.”
Your RUclips name makes more sense now.....Thanks for that.
We always made our own pork liver paté when I grew up. We got a half or whole pig for Christmas and did all sorts of stuff. Coarser texture than regular Swedish and more like the Danish variants. We also had anchovy in the recepy. Delicious! Thanks for a great channel.
That actually sounds like a great idea....make your own Pate'. TFW
When using the Esbit stove, it's proper configuration is to have 2 ears folded up and 2 folded down. This prevents burning your work surface. If possible read the directions for designed usage. Obviously your method worked but is not ideal. God bless brother.
Thanks for the tip, Bobby. God bless!
Love the video once again.... But I love the sign in the background. MILF.. MAN I LIKE TO FISH.. lol 😁
I'm hoping to use an MRE sent by a subscriber to do a 24 hour challenge while I'm fishing. I have to wait for the weather to get a little better back home before taking on that project. Stay tuned, Michael and TFW!
Young man you have to start trying some meals. Never know when you might have to eat that
Shoot! You might be allies but eating our nuclear proof armour is off the plate, don't try these crackers no more.
And if you do, make sure the army is still paying for your dentist. ;)
I think you are correct with your idea. TFW. Bartosz.
9:04 being Polish and having the SU crackers back in my day?
I think the first prayer should go to your dentist for keeping your teeth in a good shape :P
My friend snapped her bridgework on one of those tank treads 🤣
I believe that. Those bad boys are tough. They'd give any sniper's position away upon first 'crack.' TFW