Something I didn't cover in this video is cars with and without aircon. Cars without aircon have one belt and the pas pump is low down on the front of the engine. On cars with aircon, the compressor is low at the front and the pas pump is displaced to the rear top of the engine with a dedicated drive belt. I've put a picture showing the two belt layouts in the 'community' section.
Hi m8 I’m getting a squeak from the rear belt when I spray wd40 on it it goes away what is that rear belt called please n I can’t find the belt layout pic you said u put up . Hope u c this
@@xmunclex literally just a bit of tubing, old vacuum tube IIRC. Yeah, it's easy done. I mention my error to show to be careful AND to show I'm human too and not infallible.
@@scoobydan3424 1. never spray anything other than a fine mist of water onto the belt. Now it's contaminated, you should replace it. 2. IIRC the rear belt drives the steering pump Try the Gates catalogue: www.gatesautocat.com/
Wow, Went and did this today on my MK5 Fiesta 16v and it worked a treat.. i did however have a manre getting the lower bolt off the alternator while it was on the jack stand with the wheel off....after a few minutes head scratching i put the wheel back on and lowered the car back down, this allowed me to take the lower bolt out as the whole engine was moving whilst the car was aloft.....something to consider for budding DIY Mechanics out there...Cheers for the inspiration...my Car no longer sounds like a Buzzing Go Cart....
hello cyd , just getting back to you as you requested regarding the whining sound i had from the belt area of the fiesta, i tried the stethoscope and pencil that you recommended and its works a treat, anyway the noise was coming from the idler pulley so have replaced that and it all seems ok now! many thanks for all your help and advice, hope all is well with you and your family. thank you. the dark knight.
AWESOME❗ Such a simple tool and method, yet capable of leading one right to the source of an issue. My son has an idler pulley screeching on his VW 1.2TSi and I've since bought a proper mechanics stethoscope, so expect to see more about tracking down noises soon.
I go to bed wondering these things about the Fiesta ! i have a 2002 one and i think i must of replaced pretty much everything but the alternator by now ,and there not cheap either ! so now i know remove the head lamp first ,great video and thanks for making it .
Glad to be of assistance Neo. Yes, it's best practice to replace any belts you take off. If you do reuse them, be sure to put them back on the same way they came off.
I have a 2007 Mk 6 (!) Ford Fiesta Ghia Automatic 1.6 litre 5 door. Need to have a new alternator fitted but I was told by one garage that they wouldn't know the type of alternator (seemingly it could be one of two) until they removed the old one! Another garage said they used the registration number to find the correct type of alternator! Yet the first garage also quoted the registration number and the parts supplier said it could be one of two! Please help me, which garage is correct?
Seriously wish I saw this video two days ago. The directions all say turn clockwise and the belt slips off the water pump spindle if you do this. We had spent money on the one tool set... then on the little guide tool.. in hopes if being able to get it on. But you were right... waste of money. In the end a slow work through by hand.. COUNTER clockwise ... and the belt was on in 15 minutes (video watching included). We didn't need the alternator replacement... and our model only has one belt (serpentine onto the alternator).
Oh, yeah❗ Don't you just hate that. I once spent the best part of a weekend on a job, only to have a fellow engineer tell me how to do it properly on Monday morning at work. I feel your pain 😬
My belt snapped whist I was driving and thought my car had just died as lights started coming on after I lost power steering,I had nowhere to pull over until half a mile so I'm hoping it's not done too much damage, can you give me info on what am I looking at for fixing? Thanks for this video,it explained Why I lost power steering, power etc,👍🙏
If the battery is healthy and well charged and you keep all electrical accessories OFF, you might be able to make it home. You should only need a new belt. Be sure to clean the pulleys thoroughly with brake cleaner before fitting in case of oil contamination. Let us know how you get on
@@CycloneCyd thank you my friend,I got home to my mother's thank goodness, it's totally dead now, won't start so we towing it this afternoon to the garage down road as I don't have time to have a go myself now, been 1 of those weeks ha ha, thanks for the information, this video helped me with diagnosis too 👍
thank you for your quick reply and advice cyd ! i will try that in the new year! the car runs fine at the moment! after taking a closer look and listen it appears to makes a clicking noise and faint whine which vanishes after about 50 seconds , always when its first started from cold , then it makes no noise once warmed up and used through the day.anyway i will take your great advice and wish you a peaceful christmas and new year. regards the batman.
hello cyd, just wanted to say how much i enjoy your videos! easy to understand, well explained and no irritating background music, and you speak clearly ! i have bought a fiesta 1.2 petrol engine recently which makes a whining sound when started which then goes away, it seems to be coming from the belt area so do you think it might just be that they need renewing?? anyway hope you and your family have a nice christmas and new year and keep safe. thank you, the dark knight.
Thanks for the kind words. Appreciated. Get yourself one of these bit.ly/3he4Hn8 (or Amazon UK amzn.to/3rxm7Qu) and watch my video on how to use it ruclips.net/video/jnTWmG41vX8/видео.html It could be the belt (try cleaning it with carb cleaner) but I suspect it might be a pulley bearing, maybe the idler pulley.
Great and informative video. Interesting note, I have a Fusion with the 1.4 version of this engine. The Haynes manual gives replacing the alternator a difficulty of 4 out of 5! It needs to be removed to change the thermostat housing also. You made it look very simple. Thanks.
Ah, that'll be a pain in the posterior if the stat needs replaced. 😠 It is fairly simple, but not easy by virtue of being awkward. Don't let that stop you though - just put enough time aside and stock up on coffee ☕☕☕
Excellent video Cyd... The major problem I have is getting the longer belt back on the car, without the belt slipping off the idler when the tension is applied... Everytime the belt is nearly on it slips off.. I have the correct belt .. any suggestions would be very gratefully received.
Hi, i was changin my alternator, but i struggle to get the two top bolts to line up the belt is pullin it to the left side when lookin at the car and its hard to line it up any tips?
great vid. just put new belts on my mk6 but now i need to replace the thermostat housing due to a leak. don't want to remove the alternator to get at it because of the new belt, is there a way to remove the housing without removing the alternator? would a garage replace the housing without removing the alternator? cheers cyd
How can I find which belts I need please? I've got a Fiesta Mk6 1.4L petrol with aircon (54 plate). I usually order from ECP but can order from anywhere. Thanks.
IIRC, the rear belt can only be changed by removing the front belt first, in which case you will need to change both. Never reuse a belt you have removed.
Great vid Out of interest. How long does this job take? I've just been charged five hours labour for the exact same job, on the 2.0L Duratec. Feel like I've been well turned over. But what can you do when that battery light comes on? You just want it sorted.
It took me about 3 hours incl filming. Ring a different dealer for a "guide price" and ask what is the book time for the job on your car. I feel you've been ripped off too.
Hi fred l have been furloned off again l got a phone call from manager on monday night .l told him l was still on holiday till 11th Jan l thought l would get them back but l checked with union.cause they have been syned off l cant l went to yard in shetliston to signed papers .lam still trying to find r g leather in birkinshaw some day when you finish can you come up can follow you .l changed my head light bulb in car the other day .if you need any changed l can do back ins as well brake lights ect.marks have got good jackets l got one £59 . You get 30 per cent off £41.30.not too bad eh? I know it was snowing last night hows roads.?
Thank you mate. just wondering i just done changing my 2 belts anf alternator and now i can hear squeaky noise when i switch my ac on and does new alternator make whining noise? and one morething sometimes i can smell rubber is that normal? thanks
The squeaky noise could be many things, but I would suspect either the idler pulley bearings or the compressor bearings. Get yourself a mechanics stethoscope bit.ly/mech_steth to help you track it down and watch this ruclips.net/video/jnTWmG41vX8/видео.html. Alternators often make a light whining noise when they are under load, make sure your battery is properly charged with a charger bit.ly/Charger_12V_6A then tcheck it unloaded and loaded. Also make sure the pulleys all line up perfectly, especially the new alternator pulley, just in case you've fitted it out of line or fitted the wrong one. Also make sure that the belts are properly aligned to the pulleys with all the poly Vs properly in the grooves. 👆👆 CHECK these things - do not fall into the trap of allowing yourself to think "I don't need to check that, I know I did it right"
Something I didn't cover in this video is cars with and without aircon.
Cars without aircon have one belt and the pas pump is low down on the front of the engine.
On cars with aircon, the compressor is low at the front and the pas pump is displaced to the rear top of the engine with a dedicated drive belt.
I've put a picture showing the two belt layouts in the 'community' section.
Just out of interest, what did you use to fix the broken coolant pipe? I may have done what you did even though you said don’t do what you did lol
Hi m8 I’m getting a squeak from the rear belt when I spray wd40 on it it goes away what is that rear belt called please n I can’t find the belt layout pic you said u put up . Hope u c this
@@xmunclex literally just a bit of tubing, old vacuum tube IIRC. Yeah, it's easy done. I mention my error to show to be careful AND to show I'm human too and not infallible.
@@scoobydan3424 1. never spray anything other than a fine mist of water onto the belt. Now it's contaminated, you should replace it.
2. IIRC the rear belt drives the steering pump
Try the Gates catalogue:
www.gatesautocat.com/
Wow, Went and did this today on my MK5 Fiesta 16v and it worked a treat.. i did however have a manre getting the lower bolt off the alternator while it was on the jack stand with the wheel off....after a few minutes head scratching i put the wheel back on and lowered the car back down, this allowed me to take the lower bolt out as the whole engine was moving whilst the car was aloft.....something to consider for budding DIY Mechanics out there...Cheers for the inspiration...my Car no longer sounds like a Buzzing Go Cart....
hello cyd , just getting back to you as you requested regarding the whining sound i had from the belt area of the fiesta, i tried the stethoscope and pencil that you recommended and its works a treat, anyway the noise was coming from the idler pulley so have replaced that and it all seems ok now! many thanks for all your help and advice, hope all is well with you and your family. thank you. the dark knight.
AWESOME❗ Such a simple tool and method, yet capable of leading one right to the source of an issue. My son has an idler pulley screeching on his VW 1.2TSi and I've since bought a proper mechanics stethoscope, so expect to see more about tracking down noises soon.
I go to bed wondering these things about the Fiesta ! i have a 2002 one and i think i must of replaced pretty much everything but the alternator by now ,and there not cheap either ! so now i know remove the head lamp first ,great video and thanks for making it .
Glad I could help!
Quickest way I see those headlights go in!
👍
Very informative, easy to follow instructions. Well done!
Glad it was helpful Paul.
Thanks dude. Your video helped me loads. I had a broken water pump pulley I had to replace so did the belts too.
Glad to be of assistance Neo. Yes, it's best practice to replace any belts you take off. If you do reuse them, be sure to put them back on the same way they came off.
Very informative. Love the Fiesta 👍
Thank you very much. You have helped me a lot. God bless you
I have a 2007 Mk 6 (!) Ford Fiesta Ghia Automatic 1.6 litre 5 door. Need to have a new alternator fitted but I was told by one garage that they wouldn't know the type of alternator (seemingly it could be one of two) until they removed the old one! Another garage said they used the registration number to find the correct type of alternator! Yet the first garage also quoted the registration number and the parts supplier said it could be one of two! Please help me, which garage is correct?
Seriously wish I saw this video two days ago. The directions all say turn clockwise and the belt slips off the water pump spindle if you do this. We had spent money on the one tool set... then on the little guide tool.. in hopes if being able to get it on. But you were right... waste of money. In the end a slow work through by hand.. COUNTER clockwise ... and the belt was on in 15 minutes (video watching included).
We didn't need the alternator replacement... and our model only has one belt (serpentine onto the alternator).
Oh, yeah❗ Don't you just hate that. I once spent the best part of a weekend on a job, only to have a fellow engineer tell me how to do it properly on Monday morning at work. I feel your pain 😬
My belt snapped whist I was driving and thought my car had just died as lights started coming on after I lost power steering,I had nowhere to pull over until half a mile so I'm hoping it's not done too much damage, can you give me info on what am I looking at for fixing? Thanks for this video,it explained Why I lost power steering, power etc,👍🙏
If the battery is healthy and well charged and you keep all electrical accessories OFF, you might be able to make it home. You should only need a new belt. Be sure to clean the pulleys thoroughly with brake cleaner before fitting in case of oil contamination.
Let us know how you get on
@@CycloneCyd thank you my friend,I got home to my mother's thank goodness, it's totally dead now, won't start so we towing it this afternoon to the garage down road as I don't have time to have a go myself now, been 1 of those weeks ha ha, thanks for the information, this video helped me with diagnosis too 👍
thank you for your quick reply and advice cyd ! i will try that in the new year! the car runs fine at the moment! after taking a closer look and listen it appears to makes a clicking noise and faint whine which vanishes after about 50 seconds , always when its first started from cold , then it makes no noise once warmed up and used through the day.anyway i will take your great advice and wish you a peaceful christmas and new year. regards the batman.
All the best to you and yours. Stay safe. Do let us know how you get on.
Great video Cyd. Thanks
Thanks for the video, can I ask how you got the stretch belt back over the pulleys? Thanks
hello cyd, just wanted to say how much i enjoy your videos! easy to understand, well explained and no irritating background music, and you speak clearly ! i have bought a fiesta 1.2 petrol engine recently which makes a whining sound when started which then goes away, it seems to be coming from the belt area so do you think it might just be that they need renewing?? anyway hope you and your family have a nice christmas and new year and keep safe. thank you, the dark knight.
Thanks for the kind words. Appreciated.
Get yourself one of these bit.ly/3he4Hn8 (or Amazon UK amzn.to/3rxm7Qu) and watch my video on how to use it ruclips.net/video/jnTWmG41vX8/видео.html
It could be the belt (try cleaning it with carb cleaner) but I suspect it might be a pulley bearing, maybe the idler pulley.
Wow bro thank you 4 your help 🙏
Great and informative video. Interesting note, I have a Fusion with the 1.4 version of this engine. The Haynes manual gives replacing the alternator a difficulty of 4 out of 5!
It needs to be removed to change the thermostat housing also.
You made it look very simple. Thanks.
Ah, that'll be a pain in the posterior if the stat needs replaced. 😠 It is fairly simple, but not easy by virtue of being awkward. Don't let that stop you though - just put enough time aside and stock up on coffee ☕☕☕
Fantastic video! Very helpful! Thank you
Thanks mate, very useful video.
No problem 👍
Excellent video Cyd... The major problem I have is getting the longer belt back on the car, without the belt slipping off the idler when the tension is applied... Everytime the belt is nearly on it slips off.. I have the correct belt .. any suggestions would be very gratefully received.
Clean the idler pulley with brake or carb cleaner. Give the flat side of the belt a clean too with cleaner on a cloth. It should grip the pulley then.
How would i make it easier to turn the crankshaft pully on a diesel
Take the glow plugs out, so no compression?
Hi, i was changin my alternator, but i struggle to get the two top bolts to line up the belt is pullin it to the left side when lookin at the car and its hard to line it up any tips?
great vid. just put new belts on my mk6 but now i need to replace the thermostat housing due to a leak. don't want to remove the alternator to get at it because of the new belt, is there a way to remove the housing without removing the alternator? would a garage replace the housing without removing the alternator? cheers cyd
Great work ! Thank you !!!!
How would I make it easier to turn the crankshaft pulley if it’s a diesel thanks
legend mate.
Thanks Brett
How can I find which belts I need please? I've got a Fiesta Mk6 1.4L petrol with aircon (54 plate). I usually order from ECP but can order from anywhere. Thanks.
And can I just replace the rear belt the front one is new just the rear 1 making noise mines a 1.4 with aircon
IIRC, the rear belt can only be changed by removing the front belt first, in which case you will need to change both. Never reuse a belt you have removed.
I’ve changed the belt and now I cannot turn the wheel both ways. It’s making a crazy squeaking noise. What have I done wrong?
Sounds like the power steering belt is slipping at the pump.
Is it all on square and running true?
Check for contamination on the belt too.
Cyclone Cyd think I’ve put the belt on the wrong way. Meaning the letters are going towards the battery if that makes sense mate
good video help me out big time des.
No problem 👍
Great vid
Out of interest. How long does this job take?
I've just been charged five hours labour for the exact same job, on the 2.0L Duratec.
Feel like I've been well turned over. But what can you do when that battery light comes on? You just want it sorted.
It took me about 3 hours incl filming. Ring a different dealer for a "guide price" and ask what is the book time for the job on your car. I feel you've been ripped off too.
My pas belt ticks when cold. Just started doing it. Can't see any fraying on belt.
Change the belt. They're cheap enough you can change as a precaution. Clean the pulleys with brake cleaner too.
Cheers cyd. It getting changed today. Hopefully solves it
Hi there, very informative. Why did you remove the spark plugs?
So it would start better.
Hi fred l have been furloned off again l got a phone call from manager on monday night .l told him l was still on holiday till 11th Jan l thought l would get them back but l checked with union.cause they have been syned off l cant l went to yard in shetliston to signed papers .lam still trying to find r g leather in birkinshaw some day when you finish can you come up can follow you .l changed my head light bulb in car the other day .if you need any changed l can do back ins as well brake lights ect.marks have got good jackets l got one £59 . You get 30 per cent off £41.30.not too bad eh? I know it was snowing last night hows roads.?
I misunderstood your 'removed ' I thought why would you remove plugs to change belts! 🤭
Who's fred?
Thank you mate. just wondering i just done changing my 2 belts anf alternator and now i can hear squeaky noise when i switch my ac on and does new alternator make whining noise? and one morething sometimes i can smell rubber is that normal? thanks
The squeaky noise could be many things, but I would suspect either the idler pulley bearings or the compressor bearings. Get yourself a mechanics stethoscope bit.ly/mech_steth to help you track it down and watch this ruclips.net/video/jnTWmG41vX8/видео.html.
Alternators often make a light whining noise when they are under load, make sure your battery is properly charged with a charger bit.ly/Charger_12V_6A then tcheck it unloaded and loaded.
Also make sure the pulleys all line up perfectly, especially the new alternator pulley, just in case you've fitted it out of line or fitted the wrong one. Also make sure that the belts are properly aligned to the pulleys with all the poly Vs properly in the grooves.
👆👆 CHECK these things - do not fall into the trap of allowing yourself to think "I don't need to check that, I know I did it right"
Very good
Thanks Gary