without jotaro he could've beat all of them up with whitesnake + saying that he would be fucked up without speed, is like saying jotaro wouldn't be able to live without timestop
WoU: gives them cancer level McDonald's clown juice. Funny valentine: what if that didn't work and instead you had my misfortune of getting that cancer. WoU: well damn how about you get it back because thats attacking m and calamity activates. Funny valentine: what if love train stops that and gives it to Dio. Dio: TF DID I Do. WoU: You cant do that. Funny Valentine: also i switch bodys with a version of me who has d4c requiem over heaven go beyond act 4 and that version can also stop time D4C TEISHI JIKAN *a few Boni's later* WoU: *ded*
@@A-slient-voice-fan not how love train works, it makes Funny Valentine essentially immune to any external threat, but not to every single thing ever, we see that Act 4 could penetrate Love Train because it warped reality, WoU not only warps reality, it manipulates fate itself, it doesn't matter if Valentine had Love Train, "something" will happen and Valentine will die, such is Calamity.
@@Ok_Editz wonder of ohio is just wonder of u but its stats where changes, like when you are a the same level in a game but one you go for speed and health but on other you go defense and damage
Valentine is the only one who could beat WoU/Tooru just due to love train existing, unless WoU can bend that it either becomes a stalemate or Valentine wins, plus he has infinite lives so
@@kxx449 that isn't wou abilty nor is that stated anywhere not sure where you got thag from but love train can negate all damage done too the user. Reverse all bad luck automatically and its only counter is inf spin which is yk tusk act 4 thing not Wou
Diavolo , Valentine's abilities are the only abilities on this list that may hard counter Wou but wou still wins Like Stone free hard countering Cmoon while C moon is still more powerful than her
Kira might be able to beat WoU with bites the dust when you think about it. Since bites the dust doesn't need Kira to technically be pursuing Toru or WoU, and it activates when someone discovers his name, he might theoretically be able to win.
@@jimdew7466 Tooru doesn't really care about who is pursuing him since he knows calamity will catch them before they can even touch him so I doubt he would even care to know his name
Valentine has a chance of winning but getting heavily injured at the same time. Part 8 spoilers: Kaato killed Tooru by giving him the Rock Illness. The reason she wasn't hit by a immediate death calamity was because she had the intention to heal Tsurugi, not kill Tooru. Valentine can use the same principle if he knows WoU's ability. He can just bring another Tooru from a dimension where he doesnt have a stand with the intention of simply bringing him to original dimension. Both Tooru would die as a result of meeting each other and if calamity hits Valentine he has the chance to transfer his stand to another Valentine.
Too bad WoU is basically an automatic stand with no user if that's the case and the unpredictability of an unknown force is much more terrifying than the one you know of.
@krimson4626 Maybe it possibly could launch him in space, but wonder of u's biggest attack was the plane door, which took a long time to happen, so who knows.
@@chillouttm3804 If bro not only found a way to crack Heaven and giving himself the ability to rewrite history and his friend the ability to reset the universe into his own image not only that Pucci can still defeat WoU regardless of his ability since while in Made in Heaven he can change his own fate as well. The only reason why he lost is because he changed Emporio's fate too. AND he read up on all the books in his library as well.
@@ten-thousandbees8453 First Dio Over Heaven isn’t canon Second Pucci can only alter fate in his new universe, not while MiH is active. Even if Pucci has top tier fate manipulation, so does WoU. And since WoU scales higher then MiH, it would trump it. Third Pucci lost because Emporio outsmarted Pucci into changing fate. Fourth Knowledge ≠ Intelligence
While I don't think MiH defeats WoU, I gotta admit your tweakin if you think dio doesn't take iq. Don't get me wrong keeping yourself hidden for decades is impressive, but dio is a master manipulator, literally created the part 6 antagonist along with dozens of minor antagonists, not including his army of around 1000+ vampires.
The calamity ability is basically omnipresent the moment u think about chasing wou you will die doesn't matter where you are. So wou is kinda omnipresent in a sense
@@chillouttm3804 dio did pro boxing in his age group at the age of 12, mastered his stand and kept it controlled while jotaro had lots of trouble controlling it dio never let his stand slip, and knowledge of fighting obv goes to dio
Unfortunately he'd lose, while normally anything on earth would be an insta-loss against Kars, stands by nature were not originally from earth thus having alien/otherworldly abilities. WoU as an example manipulates whole concepts whilst Kars can only make himself either physically stronger but he still needs to bide with the laws of earth like Logic and Calamity which WoU can freely manipulate.
I think that Funny Valentine could potentially beat WoU. The way Go Beyond works if I recall is defying logic and creating something that doesn’t exist in the universe. This means that anything D4C pulls out from an alternate universe could potentially act in the same way, as it doesn’t exist in their present universe.
honestly Funny has a good shot at beating WOU he's the only Villain that could possibly defeat Tooru, as calamity can only target one person at the time, so theoretically Funny just can bring in multiple alternate universe variations of himself to all simultaneously pursue Tooru, and since we don't see many Physically feats from Tooru I'd say Funny actually has a chance.
If anyone is wondering wou which stands for wonder of you and its ability is if the user wants you dead the stand will track you down even if your across dimesions you will die somehow its like death note but you can die anyway its not specific
I feel like the problem with trying to stack some of these up is that most main villain stands have some form of unbeatable hack and we don't know how they would interact because they never do. Does the flow of calamity still flow in time stop? Can Diavolo skip past calamity? Does the infinite speed of Made in Heaven mean that he can outrun calamity? Does D4C: Love Train redirect calamity itself? Araki may have said that Wonder of U is the strongest main villain stand, but we all know that the reality of JoJo is that stands can have good and bad matchups regardless. Star Platinum got shit on by Ratt in part 4 despite having been declared by Araki as the strongest stand.
I think the main issue is that WOU's user doesn't need to be anywhere near their target at all, or even aware they're being pursued. WOU's calamity is a world-wide automatic stand that takes the whole "Stands will sometimes react to protect their user" thing to its logical extreme. You don't even NEED to be pursuing the right person- you just need to have the *idea* of pursuing Tohru/The Head Doctor, and it just flips on. For base DIO, stopping time is just a temporary stopgap measure, and the universe will just keep throwing calamity after calamity at him, up to and including dropping planes from the sky on him. Its not out of the norm to expect WOU would even drop meteors. At some point, it would become impossible to time skip the calamity away. The same would apply for Diavolo and Pucci, i think. At some point, it becomes impossible to avert or outrun a calamity. I do think Pucci might have a good chance, though, given the pure hacks that he gets after evolving. Love Train is a weird one, because their respective protagonists have to break through so many hack walls to hurt Tohru and Valentine. I'm sure LT could probably redirect some of the calamities, but if the calamities don't register as 'bad fortune', Valentine is just fucked.
@@simj202 Alright but this is ignoring these stands actively trying to attack Wonder of U. They don't need to evade calamity forever, just until Wonder of U is beaten.
WOU может действовать даже после смерти Тоору Так что Валентайну придётся где-то найти ещё одного WOU и бросить его в оригинального WOU Чтобы окончательно убить его при помощи парадокса
shouldve thrown Love Train in there just for fun, because since it redirects misfortune and calamity is technically misfortune, it just bounces back between LT and WoU until some random passerby gets caught in the crossfire lol
I saw the comment from the creator of this video and the truth is that everything he said in the pinned comment makes no sense, he exaggerates the power of WOU by inventing more things than are already there. To begin with, WOU's physical strength is not city level, where the hell did that come from? WOU throughout the manga has not shown destructive feats of that magnitude and realistically does not go beyond wall level, being one of the weakest stands in this regard. WOU is not a fast stand to say that it is omnipresent and in fact omnipresence is not speed, it is simply something that exists within the entire universe and worst of all, omnipresent is not WOU, it is only its main ability "calamity ". That being said, WOU is one of the slower stands within the play compared to the rest of the stands. In durability it is the same, the "multiversal durability" was removed from who knows where, most likely it is from your imagination. WOU's durability as a stand is lousy, as is its user's, being less resistant than an average human since I can't stand gappy's "Go Beyond" bubble, a bubble that by itself doesn't stand out in destructive power, being similar to the explosions of Killer Queen. Abilities? None of the ones mentioned in the guy's pinned comment. WOU does not manipulate reality and destiny (again something totally invented) something like that is never mentioned in the manga and if he had those abilities (hypothetically speaking) "Go Beyond" would not be enough and useless at the same time since if he had control of the destiny, would have manipulated it so that both he and his user (Tooru) were never harmed. Now regarding logic manipulation, it's not an ability as all logic is simply ignored by his hax ("the calamity"). Now if we talk about "experience" in general, the fact that he has 80 years of life does not make him more experienced in combat than everyone else, being the least experienced (even kira yoshikage has more experience) since I don't even need to try hard to defeat his enemies or the one who interfered in his plans since all the work was done by "the calamity". In IQ and BIQ it remains the same, Tooru and WOU have not been the users/stands with the best intellect, if we talk about IQ in general Kars mops the floor with this one, being the character with the highest IQ of all (then follows DIO) and with BIQ stand users, everyone else is better in that aspect (except Diavolo and Kars). To finish, I want to say that my goal is not to hate the creator of the channel and video, in fact I agree with the result but it simply seems illogical and made up everything he said in the comment he posted. Postscript: I tried to make my comment as understandable as possible, sorry if my English is not the best but it is not my native language and I need a Google translator so that the comment is in English.
WOU isn't fast, he's can create illusions to bait pursuers. That fact after hospital battle, where WOU slowly walking in elevator risking being harmed by Josuke bubbles. WOU's durability may be really big, cuz Araki didn't show limits of the duration of his abilities. If we talk about endurance, there's no endurance, only "stamina", or how long stand can act. GO BEYOND bubbles are extremely weak, they're not killed Rock Human in two direct hits. Also I have hypothesis that WOU can't act after Tooru's death, nut nevermind. WOU can't change fate, he's only can use logical chains in their worst version. Cut vegetables? You will cut finger, or with WOU's ability, cut finger off. Rain will be deadly. But WOU works on logic, he can't kill you with bullet of nowhere. Or deadly insect out of nowhere.
@@-AD-Astra-0 what are you Talking about, when Rai Got close to WoU, Rai was killed by jousukes bubble, So no, WoU can kill you by having bullets shoot you out of nowhere.
@@Mroziukz 1. Rai grabbed WOU's neck. 2. Bubbles were there floating, wdym they're put of nowhere? All scene began with Rai saw Gappy and the bubbles in room.
@@jija000 at minimum, WoU can teleport, making his speed Immeasurable. Immeasurable > Infinite. And if you make the argument that WoU is a concept and therefore exists everywhere, his speed is irrelevant. And Irrelevant > Infinite
@@fectay6956he cant. He only can see what will happen and when he skip time he can see what will happen but he cant harm anyone except if Fate decide that he is able to so there he can attacjk in time skip
If DIO tried to stop time, his time stop would be used against him, if Kira tried to blow up something or use BTD, it would blow Kira up, if Diavolo tried to time erase, or epitaph, the time erase would be used against him, and the epitaph would show WOU killing Diavolo, if Pucci tried to accelerate time, it would be WOU moving with the time acceleration, and if D4C activated love train, the love train barrier would be used against him.
So list of JoJo villains who could possibly beat Tooru/Wonder of You: Dio- timestop + regeneration, timestop is good in avoiding random shit flying at Dio. Kars - infinite regeneration Diavolo- if he somehow know direct location of Tooru, he can go near him without the intention to pursue/kill/damage him and use timeskip to avoid being hit by calamity. F.Valentine- depends if Valentine would outran Tooru, he has infinite number of "clones" so he can pretty safely run towards Tooru and try to catch him.
I have thought about this too. But Tooru is literally too busted. (I was going to type paragraphs explaining how WoU would win but I’m just going to simplify it). Dio: Cut off his head. Calamity will do this either right before timestop or during, depending on how you scale WoU. Kars: this is a toss up in this case. Kars can’t see stands so he’d have no idea what’s hitting him and decapitate him like dio. Diavolo: He tries to get close to Tooru he dies, if he even thinks about trying to get close to him he dies. Diavolo can’t attack in skipped time so if it comes to it, Calamity kills him right after skipping time. Valentine is also a toss up. As long as Tooru can kill him before he transfers it’s fine. As for LT, Valentine can’t attack in it so he would have to come out eventually, it would result the same either way.
This is stupid but I think the counter of WOU is king crimson the reason time erases works to change the destiny. The epitaph can change the future. I know that the calamity will always have only one destination. but as soon as time erase is near the user only in that small amount of time will it be useful for king crimson to kill wou user. First of all the statistics although they are unequal in many moments, it could be said that weakness is the ultimate form to kill wou.The surprise effect is something that no one expects, so if WOU makes an attack first, King Crimson loses, but if King Crimson makes a move first, it is possible that fate is on its side.
Love train: Oh what a nice and powerful ability. Anyways fuck those I'll sent it to another person. D4C: Oh shit my User is effected by it's ability, I'll just switch to an alternate version of him.
Diavolo can't use time skip constantly + he can't dodge it if it already hit him, if he gets hit by the calamity and skips his time, he won't even notice that he has already died
I mean I feel like depending on the interaction between calamity and time stop DIO may have a chance. Especially considering his vampiric body means he could probably tank whatever calamity strikes while he is activating time stop. Also, Killer Queen may be able to win with Bites the Dust if Kira can get someone else to tell Wonder of U his name.
Also, does sheer heart attack count as Kira actually persueing WoU? Sense it’s automatic? Prob idk, but I think WoU would bring early daylight savings on dio, something picky to deal with vampires, I think the only one to have a great chance is D4C love train bc every calamity would just fall on something else
I want to see battle between D4C LT and WoU. If you try to hit WoU or just think about that, you will die from calamity. And if you try to hit D4C LT, you will die because LT redirects any damage to opponent. How will WoU's calamity hit D4C and how will D4C redirect calamity?
Also they both (Tooru and Valentine) immortal. Tooru - stone, Valentine - have clones and can give his mind to one of his clones (he can repeat this process forever)
There's alot i don't agree with (WoU still solos them all tho) For physical strength, WoU never fights hand to hand with someone else. So we have no way of knowing WoU's actual strength. For speed, omnipresence isn't speed, it's a state where someone is everywhere at the same time. In reality he has the speed of an old man. For durability, WoU never gets hurt, except when he got hit by the go beyond bubbles, but those bubbles destroy anything in it's way no matter the durability and it also bypasses anything. I think even Magenta Magenta while activating his ability will end in the same result as WoU if he got hit by the go beyond bubbles. So I'm guessing he has the durability of an old man. For experience, the best that we've seen him done in a fight is deploy rock insects and that's it. Otherwise he just either runs away from his pursuer as they miserably fail to even get a millimeter close to him or just stands still as they slowly die from the things around them.
If a character has infinite like Pucci, they will travel from A to B in 0 seconds. If a character is omnipresent, they will exist at A and B simultaneously, meaning they were always there and their travel time was less than 0 seconds.
@@Schnoz42069 it's exactly why it isn't speed, because the omnipresent character doesn't need to travel from point A to B since the character already exists at both points at the same time
@@Schnoz42069 If it's speed, then the character would need to travel from A to B. It doesn't matter how fast the travel time is, if it has the need to travel in order to get somewhere, then it's not omnipresence.
A lot of people seem to think the author saying that Wonder of U is the strongest means that it can’t be beat. Love train is the direct counter to wonder of U, and probably the only direct counter if we’re not including soft and wet. Yes, wonder of U has all of these overwhelming feats, but if we’re to think about it for a moment, it makes sense. Wonder of you is calamity itself. For all intents and purposes, wonder of U can set of a chain of events involving a McDonald’s ice cream machine that somehow went from Texas to Arkansas, fell off a truck on its way to be repaired, and then it killed a man. Wonder of U is labeled as the strongest because it’s not just a stand, it is LITERALLY calamity. And upon tooru’s downfall, it didn’t die. Wonder of u was set free. You can’t theoretically kill calamity. What makes lovetrain the counter to this? Wonder of U is the natural concept of calamity while love train is the natural concept of misfortune. If wonder of u sends calamity, love train can redirect all of it, as only good fortune remains for Funny. You’d think this is a stand still then right? No. Say for example that it goes on as a redirection match for all eternity, there’s a finite number of people in the world, and love train will throw them all under the bus to keep Funny safe, as ONLY good fortune is allowed to reach him. “But the author.” The author also called Love Train invincible. So. . . Where we at? All we have left is the look at the stated facts through descriptions. Everyone else will be dead, leaving only them left until something redirects to Wonder of U. And like wonder of U, even the most minuscule thing can be fatal, ignoring the durability shit. Speed also won’t matter in this. Strength won’t matter in this. Funny takes this because this is a battle of hax, and his law is just a counter to wonder of U’s.
Fax Love Train beat WoU. But I want to clarify. This example is with an ice cream machine wrong. Calamity WoU they rely on logic and the law of cause and effect. Consider that disasters are a fight with improvised means. Because nothing can happen out of nowhere. And about Araki's words. He was talking about calamity in people's lives. And not that this is the strongest thing at all.
Were you the one who made the edit where it said "you can't say I didn't warn you,the order has shifted to you dying next,the calamity will come". If not pls tell me who did
WoU stats:
Physical Strength:
Name Music?
@@athilapaula429 RAPTURE
i agree on speed cs just thinking of WoU makes him appear instantly and calamity begins so W edit
OMNIPRESENT SPEED LOL,THAT'S ACUTALLY SO FUCKING FUNNY LOLL
Law manipulation too and wou scaled at least low complex multiversal
Diavolo didn't want to deal with this shit 💀
Diavolo it's goku mui
@@MefedronAbd3what
@@MefedronAbd3 man thinks a gay stripper is goku 💀💀💀
@@Jeizu17 if he use epitaph he can dodge any attack like goou
@@cactieythecactusfr, while he's better than goku
we know pucci is fucked up if he didnt get speed 💀💀
Who is joe
@@l3757 joe mama
without jotaro he could've beat all of them up with whitesnake + saying that he would be fucked up without speed, is like saying jotaro wouldn't be able to live without timestop
@@motafu1when MIH is fast enough to reset a UNIVERSE, I would say not getting speed is a fairly large deal.
@@motafu1 weather report solos whitesnake smh
Diavolo really said "Imma not deal with this shit"😂
Trust me, Diavolo did deal with Wonder of U
Jojo villains: We beating you up
WoU: gives them cancer level McDonald's clown juice.
The villains got it easy when it was wonder of U and not
WONDO OF OHIO
WoU: gives them cancer level McDonald's clown juice.
Funny valentine: what if that didn't work and instead you had my misfortune of getting that cancer.
WoU: well damn how about you get it back because thats attacking m and calamity activates.
Funny valentine: what if love train stops that and gives it to Dio.
Dio: TF DID I Do.
WoU: You cant do that.
Funny Valentine: also i switch bodys with a version of me who has d4c requiem over heaven go beyond act 4 and that version can also stop time D4C TEISHI JIKAN *a few Boni's later*
WoU: *ded*
@@A-slient-voice-fan not how love train works, it makes Funny Valentine essentially immune to any external threat, but not to every single thing ever, we see that Act 4 could penetrate Love Train because it warped reality, WoU not only warps reality, it manipulates fate itself, it doesn't matter if Valentine had Love Train, "something" will happen and Valentine will die, such is Calamity.
@@Ok_Editz wondet of utah
@@Ok_Editz wonder of ohio is just wonder of u but its stats where changes, like when you are a the same level in a game but one you go for speed and health but on other you go defense and damage
Dio fans be like: "but dio is like 100 years old"
100 years on a coffin in sea💀💀💀
Even he is smarter, he still loses
Init WoU been terrorising people for 4/5 of the time dio was in the ocean 😂
Tooru is at least 87 year old so his close
At most Dio or Pucci know someone with a stand that possibly could seal it away
Valentine: can’t get through love train
WoU:trust me I won’t need to
Valentine last seen two years ago
Underrated comment
Valentine is the only one who could beat WoU/Tooru just due to love train existing, unless WoU can bend that it either becomes a stalemate or Valentine wins, plus he has infinite lives so
Sorry to break it to you but the author confirmed that wou is the strongest and with the POWER OF LOGIC MANIPULATION negates love train.
Law manip
@@kxx449 that isn't wou abilty nor is that stated anywhere not sure where you got thag from but love train can negate all damage done too the user. Reverse all bad luck automatically and its only counter is inf spin which is yk tusk act 4 thing not Wou
@@ASZ12345 JoJolion Volume 27: Author's Note - this says that wou is the strongest villain stand, not verbatim, but still.
@@chillouttm3804Confirmation of the authors does not matter because they can be wrong
Wonder Of U always gangsta till novel kars somehow becomes canon 😲
Ma guy novel Kars will straight capture him like a pokemon and do Wonder of U Ultimate and everyone is fucked asf.
Edit goes hard especially KC sound effect
Me who is in part 3 in Jojo and dont know who all these guys are💀💀
But sick edit🔥🔥🔥
hohoho....
You’re in the a wild ride buddy
Please let us know how it goes
You're in for one hell of a ride, but do take note that WoU is manga only
@@honque3063 hopefully anime too, if DP doesn't animate SBR, JJLI and JJLA, then I hope another company does
@@motafu1 I think DP will animate them, it might take 3-4 years for SBR to release
Diavolo skipped past his L cause he knew there was no chance 💀
Diavolo , Valentine's abilities are the only abilities on this list that may hard counter Wou but wou still wins
Like Stone free hard countering Cmoon while C moon is still more powerful than her
My guy gave speed to wou when made in heaven has infinite speed bro
Maybe read the pin before leaving comments bozo
wou can just teleport correct me if im wrong
@@chillouttm3804sthu
@@chillouttm3804 why u need to be toxic?
@@irmaodopistola3882 cus I can
So nobody gon mention the timeskip on diavolo😭😭 W edit
Kira might be able to beat WoU with bites the dust when you think about it. Since bites the dust doesn't need Kira to technically be pursuing Toru or WoU, and it activates when someone discovers his name, he might theoretically be able to win.
it doesnt has to be discovering his name, it was in the anime because kira set it to be that
Dwell on that copium
@@antihmota4625 what
@@jimdew7466 Tooru doesn't really care about who is pursuing him since he knows calamity will catch them before they can even touch him so I doubt he would even care to know his name
@@deathmercycomics2669 bites the dust activates no matter what though. He could technically trick someone into saying his name near WoU
Valentine has a chance of winning but getting heavily injured at the same time. Part 8 spoilers:
Kaato killed Tooru by giving him the Rock Illness. The reason she wasn't hit by a immediate death calamity was because she had the intention to heal Tsurugi, not kill Tooru.
Valentine can use the same principle if he knows WoU's ability. He can just bring another Tooru from a dimension where he doesnt have a stand with the intention of simply bringing him to original dimension. Both Tooru would die as a result of meeting each other and if calamity hits Valentine he has the chance to transfer his stand to another Valentine.
that's good option
yeah but the main problem is even if you do kill Tooru, how are you going to get rid of WOU since it can still be active after the user's death?
Too bad WoU is basically an automatic stand with no user if that's the case and the unpredictability of an unknown force is much more terrifying than the one you know of.
You still essentially plan to kill Tooru but with extra steps.
The stand user dying doesn’t mean anything since WOU still would exist after the user’s death
Dayummn, that intro was clean af!!!!!!
After facing GER, Diavolo knows better.
you know youre op when you get speed point against Pucci 💀
Valentine is the only one who actually stands a chance against Tooru
Kars?
@@puffersfish4296I'm saying in regard to this video but yeah, I do think Kars wouldn't die but Calamity would just yeet him into space
@krimson4626 Maybe it possibly could launch him in space, but wonder of u's biggest attack was the plane door, which took a long time to happen, so who knows.
Everyone gangsta until The Hand with a user that has an average iq for a person
Imagine in Jojolands would be a guy who is smart and has The Hand or something similar as stand🤔
@@LiterallyUrahara That would be crazy
Why do People underestimate DIO's intelligence?
Cus WoU is smarter? Sure he’s smart and found a way to heaven, but I don’t think he’s outsmarting a concept
@@chillouttm3804 If bro not only found a way to crack Heaven and giving himself the ability to rewrite history and his friend the ability to reset the universe into his own image not only that Pucci can still defeat WoU regardless of his ability since while in Made in Heaven he can change his own fate as well. The only reason why he lost is because he changed Emporio's fate too. AND he read up on all the books in his library as well.
@@ten-thousandbees8453 First Dio Over Heaven isn’t canon
Second Pucci can only alter fate in his new universe, not while MiH is active. Even if Pucci has top tier fate manipulation, so does WoU. And since WoU scales higher then MiH, it would trump it.
Third Pucci lost because Emporio outsmarted Pucci into changing fate.
Fourth Knowledge ≠ Intelligence
While I don't think MiH defeats WoU, I gotta admit your tweakin if you think dio doesn't take iq. Don't get me wrong keeping yourself hidden for decades is impressive, but dio is a master manipulator, literally created the part 6 antagonist along with dozens of minor antagonists, not including his army of around 1000+ vampires.
Also not outsmarting a concept? Is Time not a concept💀
The calamity ability is basically omnipresent the moment u think about chasing wou you will die doesn't matter where you are. So wou is kinda omnipresent in a sense
Bro gave experience to wou against dio when dio lived 123+ years 💀💀💀
Battle experience
Dio discluding the time spent underwater is 24
Tooru is 80+
@@chillouttm3804 bro but u can't disclude when he was underwater cause thats the time he existed dio lived longer then tooru
@@chillouttm3804 dio did pro boxing in his age group at the age of 12, mastered his stand and kept it controlled while jotaro had lots of trouble controlling it dio never let his stand slip, and knowledge of fighting obv goes to dio
@@ablaelmahdi5559 I can, that’s why it’s battle experience, Dio wasn’t actively training or fighting for 100 years under the ocean
Kars: fear me
WoU : i would, sadly you are a stone
Unfortunately he'd lose, while normally anything on earth would be an insta-loss against Kars, stands by nature were not originally from earth thus having alien/otherworldly abilities. WoU as an example manipulates whole concepts whilst Kars can only make himself either physically stronger but he still needs to bide with the laws of earth like Logic and Calamity which WoU can freely manipulate.
@@apolatyne_decova novel kars:
@@cactieythecactus how did he even lose?
Kars wouldn't really stand a chance
Bro was scared of putting Oingo Boingo 🗣️
Pucci: Time Acceleration!
pebble: sorry but you have to stop
"I'M ALMOST FAST ENOUGH TO RESET THE UNIVERSE"
*Trips*
Tooru: "what happened?"
(FATALITY)
Pucci trip on a pebble and fucking explod 😂
Dude the KC time skip took me a second to understand that was amazing
powerscalers not make the most braindead comparisons challenge (impossible)
Fr
Holy shit this is probably the most well made edit I have seen yet!.
Kars: Why...... What makes me worse...........
Insta win lol
Wonder of u ultimate
Kars is inmortal he cant die is like scp 682 i think if he gonna die change his skin to idk
And Still he didnt died in the part 2 he was in the space the bad he cant escape
Dude Kars is a standless dude,he doesnt have Any chance againts WoU
@@lbaytelhesap2508 well kars will not see or touch the stand but he could survive until he beat the stand user
I think that Funny Valentine could potentially beat WoU.
The way Go Beyond works if I recall is defying logic and creating something that doesn’t exist in the universe. This means that anything D4C pulls out from an alternate universe could potentially act in the same way, as it doesn’t exist in their present universe.
If every villain is at its peak, then I think Love Train Valentine outweighs Tooru's Stand.
BRO THIS IS FIRE EDIT 🔥🔥🔥🗿🍷
honestly Funny has a good shot at beating WOU he's the only Villain that could possibly defeat Tooru, as calamity can only target one person at the time, so theoretically Funny just can bring in multiple alternate universe variations of himself to all simultaneously pursue Tooru, and since we don't see many Physically feats from Tooru I'd say Funny actually has a chance.
I guess he could also bring tooru/wou clones which might kill him
I do believe it is close
Calamity is the strongest power in jojo
If anyone is wondering wou which stands for wonder of you and its ability is if the user wants you dead the stand will track you down even if your across dimesions you will die somehow its like death note but you can die anyway its not specific
Also:
If you even THINK about pursuing the stand user, at ALL, the effect will activate.
@@evangonzalez7732 yeah what this guy said
What if Kira makes a bomb and WoU/It's User just so happens to pick it up? Would the bomb be able to kill them or no?-
Probably not like his hand would get cut off somehow or he would be knocked out
No it wouldn't because killer queen still needs to press its thumb to activate the bomb.
Intending to harm WOU/Tooru = instant death
and calamity would be the first to target Kira so he gets fucked badly 💀
Bro was reading bobo's terrible trip
I feel like the problem with trying to stack some of these up is that most main villain stands have some form of unbeatable hack and we don't know how they would interact because they never do. Does the flow of calamity still flow in time stop? Can Diavolo skip past calamity? Does the infinite speed of Made in Heaven mean that he can outrun calamity? Does D4C: Love Train redirect calamity itself? Araki may have said that Wonder of U is the strongest main villain stand, but we all know that the reality of JoJo is that stands can have good and bad matchups regardless. Star Platinum got shit on by Ratt in part 4 despite having been declared by Araki as the strongest stand.
I think the main issue is that WOU's user doesn't need to be anywhere near their target at all, or even aware they're being pursued. WOU's calamity is a world-wide automatic stand that takes the whole "Stands will sometimes react to protect their user" thing to its logical extreme. You don't even NEED to be pursuing the right person- you just need to have the *idea* of pursuing Tohru/The Head Doctor, and it just flips on.
For base DIO, stopping time is just a temporary stopgap measure, and the universe will just keep throwing calamity after calamity at him, up to and including dropping planes from the sky on him. Its not out of the norm to expect WOU would even drop meteors. At some point, it would become impossible to time skip the calamity away.
The same would apply for Diavolo and Pucci, i think. At some point, it becomes impossible to avert or outrun a calamity. I do think Pucci might have a good chance, though, given the pure hacks that he gets after evolving.
Love Train is a weird one, because their respective protagonists have to break through so many hack walls to hurt Tohru and Valentine. I'm sure LT could probably redirect some of the calamities, but if the calamities don't register as 'bad fortune', Valentine is just fucked.
@@simj202 Alright but this is ignoring these stands actively trying to attack Wonder of U. They don't need to evade calamity forever, just until Wonder of U is beaten.
У меня есть расклад победы D4C:LT , Валентайн стоит в поезде любви, потом телепортирует альтернативного тоору, случается парадокс, тоору умирает.
WOU can act even after Tooru's death
WOU может действовать даже после смерти Тоору
Так что Валентайну придётся где-то найти ещё одного WOU и бросить его в оригинального WOU
Чтобы окончательно убить его при помощи парадокса
shouldve thrown Love Train in there just for fun, because since it redirects misfortune and calamity is technically misfortune, it just bounces back between LT and WoU until some random passerby gets caught in the crossfire lol
Bro Funny Valentine D4C is like a %100 counter to WoU. I personally feel like D4C is the only one to solo WoU
I mean it’s possible but araki basically confirmed that WoU is stronger then D4C. I can give you the source if you don’t believe me
@@chillouttm3804 send it
@@DewranZ Jojolion Volume 27 Authors Note
@@chillouttm3804 really? Send me a link. It's not that I don't believe you btw I'm just curious since their abilities are almost direct counters.
@@xSwagnarok www.reddit.com/r/JoJolion/comments/ppw6cj/jjl_volume_27_authors_note/
man that start was on fire
Kars crying in the corner
I saw the comment from the creator of this video and the truth is that everything he said in the pinned comment makes no sense, he exaggerates the power of WOU by inventing more things than are already there.
To begin with, WOU's physical strength is not city level, where the hell did that come from? WOU throughout the manga has not shown destructive feats of that magnitude and realistically does not go beyond wall level, being one of the weakest stands in this regard.
WOU is not a fast stand to say that it is omnipresent and in fact omnipresence is not speed, it is simply something that exists within the entire universe and worst of all, omnipresent is not WOU, it is only its main ability "calamity ". That being said, WOU is one of the slower stands within the play compared to the rest of the stands.
In durability it is the same, the "multiversal durability" was removed from who knows where, most likely it is from your imagination. WOU's durability as a stand is lousy, as is its user's, being less resistant than an average human since I can't stand gappy's "Go Beyond" bubble, a bubble that by itself doesn't stand out in destructive power, being similar to the explosions of Killer Queen.
Abilities? None of the ones mentioned in the guy's pinned comment. WOU does not manipulate reality and destiny (again something totally invented) something like that is never mentioned in the manga and if he had those abilities (hypothetically speaking) "Go Beyond" would not be enough and useless at the same time since if he had control of the destiny, would have manipulated it so that both he and his user (Tooru) were never harmed. Now regarding logic manipulation, it's not an ability as all logic is simply ignored by his hax ("the calamity").
Now if we talk about "experience" in general, the fact that he has 80 years of life does not make him more experienced in combat than everyone else, being the least experienced (even kira yoshikage has more experience) since I don't even need to try hard to defeat his enemies or the one who interfered in his plans since all the work was done by "the calamity".
In IQ and BIQ it remains the same, Tooru and WOU have not been the users/stands with the best intellect, if we talk about IQ in general Kars mops the floor with this one, being the character with the highest IQ of all (then follows DIO) and with BIQ stand users, everyone else is better in that aspect (except Diavolo and Kars).
To finish, I want to say that my goal is not to hate the creator of the channel and video, in fact I agree with the result but it simply seems illogical and made up everything he said in the comment he posted.
Postscript: I tried to make my comment as understandable as possible, sorry if my English is not the best but it is not my native language and I need a Google translator so that the comment is in English.
WOU isn't fast, he's can create illusions to bait pursuers. That fact after hospital battle, where WOU slowly walking in elevator risking being harmed by Josuke bubbles.
WOU's durability may be really big, cuz Araki didn't show limits of the duration of his abilities. If we talk about endurance, there's no endurance, only "stamina", or how long stand can act.
GO BEYOND bubbles are extremely weak, they're not killed Rock Human in two direct hits.
Also I have hypothesis that WOU can't act after Tooru's death, nut nevermind.
WOU can't change fate, he's only can use logical chains in their worst version.
Cut vegetables? You will cut finger, or with WOU's ability, cut finger off.
Rain will be deadly.
But WOU works on logic, he can't kill you with bullet of nowhere. Or deadly insect out of nowhere.
WoU still stronger or stalemates every other villain.
@@-AD-Astra-0 what are you Talking about, when Rai Got close to WoU, Rai was killed by jousukes bubble, So no, WoU can kill you by having bullets shoot you out of nowhere.
@@Mroziukz 1. Rai grabbed WOU's neck.
2. Bubbles were there floating, wdym they're put of nowhere? All scene began with Rai saw Gappy and the bubbles in room.
@@Mroziukz WOU will do nothing to Pucci, Diavolo or Kars. Also D4C:LT.
Пуччи : проигрывает по скорости wou
Валентайн: выигрывает по скорости wou .
Где логика ?
Power Scaling
В каком месте ты увидел,что Валентайн выиграл по скорости?Он выиграл лишь в силе,прочности и имбе
@@jija000 at minimum, WoU can teleport, making his speed Immeasurable. Immeasurable > Infinite. And if you make the argument that WoU is a concept and therefore exists everywhere, his speed is irrelevant. And Irrelevant > Infinite
@@chillouttm3804 but wouldn't teleportation be considered an ability?
There's a perfectly good reason why WoU's best counter is literally nothing
Diavolo can definitely beat Wonder of U by removing every effect every time calamity tries to kill him
In short WoU doesn’t solo
Plus can't diavolo make fate work in his favor
@@MUDAWRY diavolo controls fate
@@fectay6956he cant. He only can see what will happen and when he skip time he can see what will happen but he cant harm anyone except if Fate decide that he is able to so there he can attacjk in time skip
Wait until yall see part 9 Jojolion antagonist where he break the 4th dimensions and can interact with the literal fabric of reality like dr Manhattan
bros ability is gonna be ripping a hole in time and space to make araki write him as a winner 🗿
@@EpicCoolUsernamethat's already a thing.
His name is Rohan Kishibe-
My hair started to stick up when wou started to talk like I was about to be struck by lightning from calamity
Dio> wou
Kira without btd wou
Diavolo > wou
Pucci> wou
D4c lt> wou
If DIO tried to stop time, his time stop would be used against him, if Kira tried to blow up something or use BTD, it would blow Kira up, if Diavolo tried to time erase, or epitaph, the time erase would be used against him, and the epitaph would show WOU killing Diavolo, if Pucci tried to accelerate time, it would be WOU moving with the time acceleration, and if D4C activated love train, the love train barrier would be used against him.
Dumb opinion honestly
@@krimson4626 it's not opinion, it's fact
@@ЕгорЖаворонок-д9ъ any attacks used against WoU will return. If dio uses time stop against him timestop will be used against dio
@@ЕгорЖаворонок-д9ъ Yeah it facts, but only for you.
For the rest of Us, it's Huge Cap 😂
Pt 8 is my favorite because wou actually scared me and the chase felt like a horror movie
Agree
Absolutely flawless edit 🙉
Great edit my guy
Damn this edit was too good 😭
Bro really gave intelligence to Tooru over Valentine
If Valentine don't get out of the love train he can't be afected by calamities but he can't atack too
Kars: 🗿
wou’s strength:😭😭😭😭
wou’s hax:🥶🥶🔥🥶🥶🔥🔥🥶💀💀💀😎😎
Everybody gangsta until dio over heaven rewrites himself to have infinite rewriting and rewrites to the normal universe then rewrites, WOU
Its funny how one of the "weakest" villians in jojo have one of the strongest stands
So list of JoJo villains who could possibly beat Tooru/Wonder of You:
Dio- timestop + regeneration, timestop is good in avoiding random shit flying at Dio.
Kars - infinite regeneration
Diavolo- if he somehow know direct location of Tooru, he can go near him without the intention to pursue/kill/damage him and use timeskip to avoid being hit by calamity.
F.Valentine- depends if Valentine would outran Tooru, he has infinite number of "clones" so he can pretty safely run towards Tooru and try to catch him.
I have thought about this too. But Tooru is literally too busted. (I was going to type paragraphs explaining how WoU would win but I’m just going to simplify it).
Dio: Cut off his head. Calamity will do this either right before timestop or during, depending on how you scale WoU.
Kars: this is a toss up in this case. Kars can’t see stands so he’d have no idea what’s hitting him and decapitate him like dio.
Diavolo: He tries to get close to Tooru he dies, if he even thinks about trying to get close to him he dies. Diavolo can’t attack in skipped time so if it comes to it, Calamity kills him right after skipping time.
Valentine is also a toss up. As long as Tooru can kill him before he transfers it’s fine. As for LT, Valentine can’t attack in it so he would have to come out eventually, it would result the same either way.
@@chillouttm3804
didn’t dio survive having his head chopped off in part 1
WoU would probably just make it day or smth and dio burns in the sunlight
Imagine being Kars you will be immoral but have infinite bad luck for enternity
Rimuru: Nah I'd wi-
Wou: Here You Got Cancer
Rimuru:Can i bet that?
Wou:No
This is stupid but I think the counter of WOU is king crimson the reason time erases works to change the destiny. The epitaph can change the future. I know that the calamity will always have only one destination. but as soon as time erase is near the user only in that small amount of time will it be useful for king crimson to kill wou user. First of all the statistics although they are unequal in many moments, it could be said that weakness is the ultimate form to kill wou.The surprise effect is something that no one expects, so if WOU makes an attack first, King Crimson loses, but if King Crimson makes a move first, it is possible that fate is on its side.
Kars: That's a Wonderful ability, it will be a shame if your abilities became my propert-
**Gets sent to space**
Kars is the only antagonist able to take on Tooru
Probably, he’s too confusing tho so I didn’t include him
*the dio smirk*
ZA WARUDO! OBAHEBUN!
Valentine is the only one able to win. Pucci has a chance but could probably lose. Valentine literally can't be hurt by a single calamity
yeah but pucci won't have any chance
Wonder of you vs D4C love train is like complete stalemate
Love train: Oh what a nice and powerful ability. Anyways fuck those I'll sent it to another person.
D4C: Oh shit my User is effected by it's ability, I'll just switch to an alternate version of him.
Diavolo might be able to constantly use time skip to dodge the calamity till he dies of old age (if that’s even feasible)
Diavolo can't use time skip constantly + he can't dodge it if it already hit him, if he gets hit by the calamity and skips his time, he won't even notice that he has already died
You have the same photo as mine cool
Mob Psycho Supremacy
Not Gonna lie, Wonder of U is an actual Terrifying Stand.
ONLY if you try to kill its user
@@cactieythecactus not even that, just thinking about him is enough. Not even that actually, not even thinking about him is enough.
@@chillouttm3804thinking about him isn't enough, but thinking about pursuing him, even subconsciously, will automatically trigger the effects.
That’s what makes him Terrifying.
Cool edit but where's kars
I mean I feel like depending on the interaction between calamity and time stop DIO may have a chance. Especially considering his vampiric body means he could probably tank whatever calamity strikes while he is activating time stop. Also, Killer Queen may be able to win with Bites the Dust if Kira can get someone else to tell Wonder of U his name.
Also, does sheer heart attack count as Kira actually persueing WoU? Sense it’s automatic? Prob idk, but I think WoU would bring early daylight savings on dio, something picky to deal with vampires, I think the only one to have a great chance is D4C love train bc every calamity would just fall on something else
Diavolo didn’t give a single FUCK about wou lol
Thats crazy how everyone forgot pillar mans
I want to see battle between D4C LT and WoU. If you try to hit WoU or just think about that, you will die from calamity. And if you try to hit D4C LT, you will die because LT redirects any damage to opponent. How will WoU's calamity hit D4C and how will D4C redirect calamity?
Also they both (Tooru and Valentine) immortal. Tooru - stone, Valentine - have clones and can give his mind to one of his clones (he can repeat this process forever)
The most terrifying stand against a Cat
W edit
What’s the song? Btw this edit looks sick (And for the 👉🤡 WOU can teleport making him faster then MIH)
Rapture
Song name pls-
RAPTURE: INTERWORLD
this song is absolute 🔥 dont even know what they are saying but the beat bro
* WoU uses calamity *
Pucci: why my stand just stop
Bro would hit top speed, stub his toe, and become very very disgusting wall graffiti.
There's alot i don't agree with (WoU still solos them all tho)
For physical strength, WoU never fights hand to hand with someone else. So we have no way of knowing WoU's actual strength.
For speed, omnipresence isn't speed, it's a state where someone is everywhere at the same time. In reality he has the speed of an old man.
For durability, WoU never gets hurt, except when he got hit by the go beyond bubbles, but those bubbles destroy anything in it's way no matter the durability and it also bypasses anything. I think even Magenta Magenta while activating his ability will end in the same result as WoU if he got hit by the go beyond bubbles. So I'm guessing he has the durability of an old man.
For experience, the best that we've seen him done in a fight is deploy rock insects and that's it. Otherwise he just either runs away from his pursuer as they miserably fail to even get a millimeter close to him or just stands still as they slowly die from the things around them.
Omnipresence is the ultimate form of speed.
If a character has infinite like Pucci, they will travel from A to B in 0 seconds.
If a character is omnipresent, they will exist at A and B simultaneously, meaning they were always there and their travel time was less than 0 seconds.
@@Schnoz42069 it's exactly why it isn't speed, because the omnipresent character doesn't need to travel from point A to B since the character already exists at both points at the same time
@@Schnoz42069 If it's speed, then the character would need to travel from A to B. It doesn't matter how fast the travel time is, if it has the need to travel in order to get somewhere, then it's not omnipresence.
@@crystalcrafter7246 they beat them in a race
Where do you find Wonder of U voice
diavalo and Kira be like :- we didn't want anybody to know us 😭😭😭
A lot of people seem to think the author saying that Wonder of U is the strongest means that it can’t be beat. Love train is the direct counter to wonder of U, and probably the only direct counter if we’re not including soft and wet. Yes, wonder of U has all of these overwhelming feats, but if we’re to think about it for a moment, it makes sense.
Wonder of you is calamity itself. For all intents and purposes, wonder of U can set of a chain of events involving a McDonald’s ice cream machine that somehow went from Texas to Arkansas, fell off a truck on its way to be repaired, and then it killed a man. Wonder of U is labeled as the strongest because it’s not just a stand, it is LITERALLY calamity. And upon tooru’s downfall, it didn’t die. Wonder of u was set free. You can’t theoretically kill calamity. What makes lovetrain the counter to this? Wonder of U is the natural concept of calamity while love train is the natural concept of misfortune. If wonder of u sends calamity, love train can redirect all of it, as only good fortune remains for Funny. You’d think this is a stand still then right? No. Say for example that it goes on as a redirection match for all eternity, there’s a finite number of people in the world, and love train will throw them all under the bus to keep Funny safe, as ONLY good fortune is allowed to reach him.
“But the author.”
The author also called Love Train invincible. So. . . Where we at? All we have left is the look at the stated facts through descriptions. Everyone else will be dead, leaving only them left until something redirects to Wonder of U. And like wonder of U, even the most minuscule thing can be fatal, ignoring the durability shit. Speed also won’t matter in this. Strength won’t matter in this. Funny takes this because this is a battle of hax, and his law is just a counter to wonder of U’s.
Fax Love Train beat WoU.
But I want to clarify.
This example is with an ice cream machine wrong.
Calamity WoU they rely on logic and the law of cause and effect.
Consider that disasters are a fight with improvised means.
Because nothing can happen out of nowhere.
And about Araki's words. He was talking about calamity in people's lives. And not that this is the strongest thing at all.
Ulf Kars and valentine are probably the only two who can stalemate and valentine only because of love train.
valentine wont lose he always come back and the love train would probably reflect wou calamity
Funny valentine: *”spawns 100 Wonder Of Yous*
Wonder of you: Well sh-
Hirohiko Araki already states that the strongest Villains stand is the Calamity energy of Wonder Of U
The dude said wou is faster than mih 💀
Yea, learn how to powerscale
@@chillouttm3804 ok then how to?
@@chillouttm3804 dude wth you're 100% wrong
@@eduardizando836 read the pin
@@chillouttm3804 what pin 💀
D4C:Love Train solo💀
Dude, he wouldn't solo anything, the whole planet would be dead before any of them died.
Where is that clip of him speaking comes from
WoU just give Funny infinite diabutus no matter how many times he respawn himself..
Were you the one who made the edit where it said "you can't say I didn't warn you,the order has shifted to you dying next,the calamity will come". If not pls tell me who did
The Miracle of your Love - The Entire Horse
Kars have better time skip ability than Diavolo
Diavolo: Dont even tell me